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Speaker 1: Great to flick with Benoshe.

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Speaker 2: Hello, good morning, guys.

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Speaker 3: I am great here to talk about a movie that, look,

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Speaker 3: it's going to be something on everybody's lips at the

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Speaker 3: moment it ends with us. The new Blake Lively movie.

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Speaker 3: Now it's based on like it's really a classic kind

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Speaker 3: of airport novel, which sounds like sounds like a criticism

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Speaker 3: because it is by Colleen Hoover. It's a New York

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Speaker 3: Times bestseller. Least you've read it.

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Speaker 1: I've read it. I didn't love it, but it's not

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Speaker 1: my tea.

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Speaker 2: You liw it in by best selling I was.

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Speaker 4: I was led in by the words New York Times

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Speaker 4: and bestseller.

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Speaker 3: It does feel like these days they slapped that on

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Speaker 3: just about every book.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, how long is the list?

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Speaker 3: Anyway, So it's in the same category as you know,

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Speaker 3: You're You're Gone, Girls, your Girl on the Train where

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Speaker 3: the crawd Dad's sing Like those books and I would say,

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Speaker 3: are better. This is more of like a romance, like

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Speaker 3: a romance novel, Like it's maybe a slightly elevated Mills

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Speaker 3: and Boone kind of thing. Anyway, So they've turned it

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Speaker 3: into a movie now starring Blake Lively. It's a sort

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Speaker 3: of book where you know, her character is called Lily

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Speaker 3: Blossom Bloom and wait for it, she owns a florist's

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Speaker 3: shop and the blokes and the blokes have names like

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Speaker 3: in probable names like Ryle Kink and Atlas Cura, and

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Speaker 3: of course there's a sort of a love triangle going on.

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Speaker 3: But at its core it's really an examination of domestic violence,

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Speaker 3: which is a very weighty topic. And so, you know,

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Speaker 3: you could make the argument that is that the sort

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Speaker 3: of theme that's best explored by a glossy romance. Probably not.

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Speaker 3: It probably romanticizes something that's very serious and in real

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Speaker 3: life is ugly and terrifying and grim and hopeless and not,

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Speaker 3: you know, the sort of thing where you make a

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Speaker 3: movie and every is this beautiful shot of Boston in

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Speaker 3: autumn with the leaves changing color and the sun setting

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Speaker 3: and everything looks amazing. And so it's been directed by

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Speaker 3: Justin Baldoni, who people might remember from the TV show

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Speaker 3: Jane the Virgin. He's also he also plays Ryle Kincaid,

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Speaker 3: this charming neurosurgeon that Blake Lively's character meets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because of course he's a neurosurgeon.

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Speaker 3: He's a neurosearcher, and then they sort of strike up

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Speaker 3: a romance, and all the way through she has these

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Speaker 3: flashbacks to her first love, Atlas, who was a kid,

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Speaker 3: who was a homeless boy who lived in this abandoned

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Speaker 3: and they sort of, you know, sort of fall in

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Speaker 3: love and all the rest of it. And then years

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Speaker 3: later she bumps into him because he owns a restaurant

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Speaker 3: in Boston. So, you know, as her relationship with the

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Speaker 3: Doctor unfolds, there are may be some moments where there

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Speaker 3: are these the incidents around the house, like he burns

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Speaker 3: a forra tata in the oven and he reaches into

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Speaker 3: grab out the pan, burns his hand and he sort

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Speaker 3: of pulls his hand back and a whack in the

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Speaker 3: face seemingly accidentally. When they go into Atlas's restaurant, he

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Speaker 3: sees that she's got a bit of a shiner and

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Speaker 3: is like, oh, hang on a minute, is it maybe

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Speaker 3: more to this story? Was it an accident?

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Speaker 2: He gets very protective of her.

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Speaker 3: The doctor finds out gets a bit jealous about this

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Speaker 3: Atlas guy, and so it unfolds from there, and eventually

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Speaker 3: you kind of have to decide whether these incidents are

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Speaker 3: just harmless accidents or whether Ryle Kincaid is actually an abuser,

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Speaker 3: and then she has to make a call on whether

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Speaker 3: she stays with him or not. So there's some good

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Speaker 3: stuff to examine in a film like this, but it

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Speaker 3: just doesn't do it, and the book spends a lot

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Speaker 3: more time, I guess, focused on the abuse and what Lily,

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Speaker 3: the character of Lily has to go through and as

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Speaker 3: a survivor of this type of stuff and eventually getting

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Speaker 3: to the point where she leaves him. The film doesn't

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Speaker 3: really address it at all.

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Speaker 1: Because she's seen her parents go through That's.

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Speaker 2: Right, She's seen her parents.

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Speaker 3: Her mum was a victim of her father's abuse in

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Speaker 3: her childhood, and so there's this cycle of abuse and

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Speaker 3: the whole it's end with us. It's a sort of

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Speaker 3: film where there's a title drop, you know, the most

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Speaker 3: egregious title drop where where Blake Lively is like it

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Speaker 3: ends with us, and it's one of the last things.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the last things the film leaves you with, and.

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Speaker 2: You just go, oh my gosh, this is just so cheesy.

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Speaker 3: And you know, like over the years, there's been some

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Speaker 3: incredible movies about this topic, you know, like Going all

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Speaker 3: the way back to topic, Sleeping, Sleeping with the Enemy

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Speaker 3: with Julia Roberts Once We're Warriors, even a film like

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Speaker 3: I Tanya with Margot Robbie where she you know, she

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Speaker 3: played Tanya Harding, the ice skater, that tackles domestic abuse

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Speaker 3: in a way that is much more gritty and realistic.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you.

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Speaker 1: Can't turn it into a Roman, can't.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, just really can't.

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Speaker 1: The Neurosurgeon.

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Speaker 3: Yes, all the performances are terrible, except for Blake Lively.

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Speaker 3: She's fantastic. And look, if you read the book, you

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Speaker 3: go along and watch it, you probably enjoy it. There's

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Speaker 3: a weird Ellen de Generes in the books, kind of

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Speaker 3: like the character writes a journal to Ellen de Generes

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Speaker 3: and the Ellen de Generes keep swimming from Finding Nemo

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Speaker 3: is a line that keeps repeated through the book. Thankfully

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Speaker 3: that's not in the film. So there's there's a bit

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Speaker 3: that's been cut out. Some of it benefits the film,

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Speaker 3: but a lot of it actually doesn't because it makes

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Speaker 3: all the characters really superficial.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad that you because I always thought it just

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Speaker 4: handled the topic.

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Speaker 1: Weird.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does sound like a strange way of yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: touching on it.

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Speaker 3: So if you're looking for anything that really changed your

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Speaker 3: understanding of what it's like to be a survivor in

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Speaker 3: these horrible situations, this is not it. It's kind of

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Speaker 3: like a romantic fantasy that really downplays the seriousness.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so what are you giving it?

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Speaker 2: Two? Two stars?

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Speaker 3: And both for both for both for Blake Lively, who's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: If you know, yeah, give it a maybe.

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Speaker 1: Don't bother with the sequel.

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Speaker 2: It starts with us, you don't even I pray that

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Speaker 2: that never happens. But as you touched on Ben before,

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Speaker 2: we went there. If people go and she gets bums

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Speaker 2: on seats, then she and husband Ryan.

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Speaker 3: They both he's got Deadpool at the movies, She's got

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Speaker 3: this could be it could be the new Barbenheimer.

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Speaker 4: I think to be Barbenheimer, one of the movies needs

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Speaker 4: to be Oppenheimer or of that caliber, exactly,