Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken.
Speaker 2: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture
Speaker 2: news twice a week.
Speaker 1: Coming up.
Speaker 2: On today's show, Anna Paul reveals she no longer feels
Speaker 2: safe in her current rental, Molly May islam for booking
Speaker 2: a budget airline for her sister's hands, and a micro
Speaker 2: influences expose on a restaurant backfires on her. But first,
Speaker 2: Anna Macavoy's Destination wedding was thrown into chaos when a
Speaker 2: sandstorm threatened to ground flights and interrupt her upcoming nuptials
Speaker 2: to her fiance, Michael Staples. Anna shared the news with
Speaker 2: her TikTok followers while she and Michael were grounded on
Speaker 2: the tarmac in Istanbul.
Speaker 1: Here's what she said.
Speaker 3: So, we are getting married in that Corfu, Greece in
Speaker 3: four days and there is a sand storm over the
Speaker 3: island of Corfu. We are currently on the tarmac. We've
Speaker 3: been grounded from taking off, So pray for us and
Speaker 3: pray for help guests that ever I can get there,
Speaker 3: because this was not land and not expected at all.
Speaker 4: This seems to be a bit of a trend at
Speaker 4: the moment with influencers and destination weddings. Recently, Rachel Dillon
Speaker 4: actually had to move her wedding forward because of rain
Speaker 4: in Italy. A bit of a first world problem for influencers,
Speaker 4: but this would have been very stressful.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize how chaotic a sandstorm actually is. I
Speaker 2: googled it and it turns the whole sky orange, So.
Speaker 1: It would have completely ruined their day.
Speaker 2: Also, it would be really difficult for guests to actually
Speaker 2: be able to land safely at the airport. Luckily, a
Speaker 2: day later, Anna updated her followers to say that it
Speaker 2: was crisis averted and that the storm had passed. She
Speaker 2: said the sky was no longer orange, but it was
Speaker 2: still a little bit cloudy day. An orange sky actually
Speaker 2: sounds quite nice for sunset style. Yeah, but I'm assumed
Speaker 2: they're more worried about flights not being able to land.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, Luckily she did confirm that it hadn't affected any
Speaker 2: of the guests traveling there, which was such a relief
Speaker 2: because I have been hanging out for Tammy and Matt's
Speaker 2: content in Greece. They always seem to keep things entertaining
Speaker 2: for us whilst they're overseers.
Speaker 4: And you are referring to Tammy Hembro and Anna's co host,
Speaker 4: Matt Szakowski. I was wondering how Anna felt about having
Speaker 4: to invite Tammy because she has been posting a lot
Speaker 4: of content while she's been in corfew, almost overshadowing it
Speaker 4: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Well, I have seen that discussion going on online because
Speaker 2: Tammy has been sharing a lot. So she shared a
Speaker 2: TikTok at the airport showing that she and Matt were
Speaker 2: traveling child free, And it did make me laugh because
Speaker 2: Matt brought his Love Island suitcase along with him on
Speaker 2: the tree.
Speaker 4: Did you bring his drink bottle as well?
Speaker 1: Not sure about the drink bottle.
Speaker 2: But when they were at the couple's welcome dinner, because
Speaker 2: they had this fancy welcome dinner on the beach, and
Speaker 2: there was this weird photo of Tammy and Matt kissing,
Speaker 2: Anna and her fiance kissing, so they were both in
Speaker 2: the same photo, and she captioned it lover is in
Speaker 2: the air. It kind of felt like a bit MEMI me, like,
Speaker 2: where getting and get We're getting married next?
Speaker 1: This is all about us.
Speaker 4: It kind of reminded me on Friends when Monica and
Speaker 4: Phoebe were competing over who the Hottest Couple was like,
Speaker 4: that was the vibe you really got photo she.
Speaker 1: Was necessarily doing that.
Speaker 2: I think it's more so because they are part of
Speaker 2: this podcast that talks about love and relationship. It's kind
Speaker 2: of like they're showing off that they've both now got
Speaker 2: this successful relationship.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know about you, but I've never
Speaker 2: had friends who say, oh, let's take a photo of
Speaker 2: both of us kissing. No, I think the event is
Speaker 2: about Anna and her part, not about Tammy and Matt.
Speaker 2: And while Tammy probably isn't trying to make it about
Speaker 2: herself because she has millions and millions of followers on
Speaker 2: social media, people are going to be focusing on her.
Speaker 2: But if Tammy didn't share anything while she was over there,
Speaker 2: she'd probably gets slammed. Yeah, but she could share visional
Speaker 2: photos of Anna and Michael. Yeah, but that's going to
Speaker 2: bomb on her own social media accounts, her Instagram store. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's good, but no one cares about them.
Speaker 1: They care about Tammy.
Speaker 4: I actually get the vibe that Anna is scared about
Speaker 4: what Tammy is going to share to her millions the followers.
Speaker 4: Because Matt and Anna on the most recent episode of
Speaker 4: their podcast, had a conversation about the etiquette around what
Speaker 4: can and can't be shared before the bride puts up
Speaker 4: her post.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So Anna basically said that no one is allowed to
Speaker 4: share anything about her wedding until she posts, and that
Speaker 4: includes the location, you know, details of the event anything.
Speaker 1: I think the.
Speaker 2: Reason that everyone is building up this rivalry between the
Speaker 2: two couples is because Matt previously said on his podcast
Speaker 2: that he was considering proposing to Tammy whilst on Anna's
Speaker 2: wedding trip, but he opted instead to do it in
Speaker 2: the Maudives last year, and I think that's why everyone
Speaker 2: is feeling a bit uncomfortable and thinking, please, don't take
Speaker 2: their moment away from them, particularly when Tammy and Matt
Speaker 2: have only been together for such a short period of time.
Speaker 4: Now, Anna did drop a bit of a bomb on
Speaker 4: the most recent episode of her and Matt's podcast. She
Speaker 4: revealed that she actually got married before she left for
Speaker 4: Corfu in a registry office, and the reason she did
Speaker 4: that was because she has an uneven amount of bridesmaids
Speaker 4: and groomsmen, so she has an extra groomsman and she
Speaker 4: was worried that the feng sway of the ceremony was
Speaker 4: going to be thrown off, so she has asked one
Speaker 4: of the groomsmen to be a celebrant. However, they're not
Speaker 4: actually officiated, so that's why she had to get married
Speaker 4: in Australia before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all very odd though, I mean, wouldn't you
Speaker 2: just think maybe I'll add an extra bridesmaid instead of
Speaker 2: making them the celebrates. So does it really matter, Like,
Speaker 2: does it really matter that much that it's.
Speaker 4: An odd It's a personal decision. I felt so uncomfortable
Speaker 4: listening to this podcast though, because Matt asked Anna about
Speaker 4: what it was like consummating the registry office marriage. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and he seemed very interested in the lingerie that Anna
Speaker 4: had purchased for her honeymoon. And I'm just thinking, Oh,
Speaker 4: I just got a really slimy vibe off the whole conversation, like.
Speaker 1: His mouth was drooling when he asked her that question.
Speaker 2: Maybe he thinks he's asking what everyone wants to know
Speaker 2: that's listening.
Speaker 4: Nah, it was beyond that. Was it just me or
Speaker 4: was it really frustrating that he couldn't seem to understand
Speaker 4: the difference between a registry wedding and an elopeman yeah.
Speaker 2: He kept calling it a runaway wedding, and she's like, no,
Speaker 2: it's not a runaway.
Speaker 1: It's just that we had to do.
Speaker 2: It at a registry office so that it would be
Speaker 2: legally buying.
Speaker 4: He also came across as really immature talking about weddings
Speaker 4: because Anna was saying, how, oh, I feel so old
Speaker 4: because a lot of my friends aren't married, and he
Speaker 4: was like, oh, yeah, look, and it's like, you're engaged, buddy.
Speaker 1: You know what you're not doing.
Speaker 5: You're not treating yourself like a baby when you should be.
Speaker 5: When you're sad, when you're going through something, you need
Speaker 5: to treat yourself like the five year.
Speaker 6: Old version of you.
Speaker 4: Anna Paul has revealed she's moving house at the end
Speaker 4: of the month because she no longer feels safe in
Speaker 4: her current rental. Despite living in a gated community, the
Speaker 4: Only Fans creator still experiences people within the community taking
Speaker 4: photos of her house, knocking on her door and asking
Speaker 4: for pictures in the driveway. So a follower actually messaged
Speaker 4: Anna suggesting that she moved to an acreage, but Anna
Speaker 4: replied again, I followed on my way home. Though people
Speaker 4: only turn around at the community gate when they can't
Speaker 4: get in. I'd be scared on an acreage that they
Speaker 4: can just drive up into my driveway.
Speaker 2: It's crazy to think that some influencers have this level
Speaker 2: of fame where they're being followed to their houses and
Speaker 2: people are knocking on their doors asking for photos. I'm
Speaker 2: not particularly surprised in the case of Anna poul though,
Speaker 2: that people are easily able to find her, because she
Speaker 2: does post her white car online all of the time.
Speaker 2: She also encourages people to use whiteboard markers and ride
Speaker 2: on her car. Yeah, but it doesn't give people the
Speaker 2: right to then go and follow her to her.
Speaker 1: House, so definitely not.
Speaker 2: I think what's scary in this instance is that a
Speaker 2: lot of people would view Anna as their friend because
Speaker 2: they keep up with what she's doing every single day
Speaker 2: with her vlogs, and it obviously is creating this really
Speaker 2: weird parasocial relationship with her and her fans. I have
Speaker 2: noticed her daily vlogs have dropped off quite a bit,
Speaker 2: so I'm wondering if this is a contributor. Because we
Speaker 2: saw back what in twenty sixteen, when Kim Kardashian was
Speaker 2: robbed in Paris, how that completely changed the way she
Speaker 2: posted online. She no longer wanted to post live updates,
Speaker 2: and influencers probably do need to consider what they're posting
Speaker 2: live and what they choose to then air later on
Speaker 2: for their own safety. It'd be particularly tough for Anna
Speaker 2: because her persona online is that she's very kind, she's
Speaker 2: friendly to fans, she's bubbly all the time. But you
Speaker 2: don't want to have to act like that every time
Speaker 2: someone knocks on your door and invades your privacy.
Speaker 4: A lot, particularly in a gated community. Another big motivator
Speaker 4: for this move is the need for more space. So
Speaker 4: currently Anna's iconic green BMW doesn't actually fit in the
Speaker 4: garage at the rental and it's in storage. So Anna
Speaker 4: said her new house will have a big garage and
Speaker 4: she'll be able to store her cars all there. I've
Speaker 4: also seen on her tiktop that her clothes don't fit
Speaker 4: in the wardrobe, so she and her family have just
Speaker 4: been leaving them to pile up in the laundry. I'm
Speaker 4: surprised she hasn't actually bought her own house, but I'm
Speaker 4: now wondering if she purposely hasn't bought a property because
Speaker 4: of this issue of people seemingly finding out where she lives.
Speaker 4: I would assume she would own some investment properties, but
Speaker 4: because of the lifestyle that she leads, she is overseas
Speaker 4: a lot, so maybe rentals just work better for.
Speaker 2: Her, especially having Addis back in twenty twenty, he was
Speaker 2: one of those finance bros handing out advice. Surely he
Speaker 2: would have given her the advice to invest in property well.
Speaker 4: Anna has also opened up about her weight loss, so
Speaker 4: in a Snapchat Q and A, which I think is
Speaker 4: interesting in itself that she's posting on Snapchat, she admitted
Speaker 4: that she was struggling and not in a good place
Speaker 4: for a while.
Speaker 1: So she said that she lost.
Speaker 4: Her period for eight months and was so so so
Speaker 4: skinny and so malnourished because of stress and sadness. She wrote,
Speaker 4: it happened so fast, I didn't even recognize myself. My
Speaker 4: boobs completely deflated and would just loose skin, and none
Speaker 4: of my clothes fit me anymore. The internet still comments
Speaker 4: o zen pic on my photos and videos, But this
Speaker 4: is just what stress can do to you. Fortunately, it
Speaker 4: does appear like Anna has turned a corner. She said
Speaker 4: that she's eating right and is happy and no longer
Speaker 4: longer stressed. She also said that she's getting stronger and
Speaker 4: stronger and goes to the gym four to five times.
Speaker 2: A week, and this weight loss coincided with her breakup
Speaker 2: with Glenn Thompson. It is something that does happen to
Speaker 2: you or a lot of people when they go through
Speaker 2: a breakup. I know when I went through a breakup
Speaker 2: without even trying to, I lost so much weight because
Speaker 2: I was just so upset, so stressed about the situation.
Speaker 2: But it is hard as well when you see somebody
Speaker 2: that's in the public eye suddenly losing all of this weight.
Speaker 2: Because I saw a photo that she recently shared and
Speaker 2: I noticed that the comments were often. I assumed it
Speaker 2: was because everyone was commenting ozen pic. But it is
Speaker 2: where your mind first goes when somebody loses weight so rapidly,
Speaker 2: particularly because she and Glenn really pushed this narrative that
Speaker 2: the breakup was so amicable that they were both really happy,
Speaker 2: but clearly behind the scenes that has not been the case.
Speaker 2: Anna also did open up recently about breakup advice. So
Speaker 2: one of her followers asked how she got through her
Speaker 2: breakup with Glenn, and she said that you need to
Speaker 2: treat yourself like an actual baby. So she said, treat
Speaker 2: yourself like you're five years old and someone was mean
Speaker 2: to you at school. So she suggested talking to yourself
Speaker 2: like a child and acting like it's your only job
Speaker 2: to make your five year old self feel good. So
Speaker 2: she said, you know, maybe you like iced coffee, Go
Speaker 2: get yourself a nice coffee.
Speaker 4: And she said, the rationale behind it is that your
Speaker 4: five year old stealth. And she said, the rationale behind
Speaker 4: it is that your five year old self is still
Speaker 4: in you and hurting.
Speaker 1: That's kind of good advice.
Speaker 2: I remember, Kate, back in the day when you were
Speaker 2: having issues in your past relationship. When you're upset, you
Speaker 2: said that you used to just lie in bed and
Speaker 2: pretend you're a phone charging, like recharging your bat So
Speaker 2: I suppose maybe that was before all of this meditation stuff.
Speaker 2: That was my meditation, because it did really help, because
Speaker 2: sometimes you just don't want to face the emotions that
Speaker 2: you're feeling, so you're like, I'm currently switched off and
Speaker 2: I'm charging at time on aeroplane mode.
Speaker 6: I I am so excited for this thory because, as
Speaker 6: you've seen from the title, this is going to be
Speaker 6: Zoe's hendy blogs. So you don't know who Zoe Is,
Speaker 6: which I think a lot of you probably will zobe.
Speaker 5: Is and my sister.
Speaker 2: Molly May has thrown an epic Hen's weekend for her
Speaker 2: sisters that we hatue in IBEFA. Tongues were wagging as
Speaker 2: the former Love Island contestant use the trip as an
Speaker 2: opportunity to post a ton of thirst traps as she
Speaker 2: dodgers breakup rumors. Now, so this weekend kicked off with
Speaker 2: some fans being outraged at Molly's choice of transport. Yeah,
Speaker 2: fans seem to think it was a bit cheeky of
Speaker 2: Molly to book a budget airline for her sister's Hen's weekend.
Speaker 1: When you say budget, it's not. It was Ryan Air.
Speaker 4: That would be like some influencer in Australia booking a
Speaker 4: Tiger Fly. I know that they're defunct now, but that
Speaker 4: is the level of transportation. But am I wrong?
Speaker 2: Wouldn't the other guests be paying for the airfare so
Speaker 2: it wouldn't have been a bit rich of Molly if
Speaker 2: she'd booked in a private jet and forced everyone to
Speaker 2: pay the fee. The thing is, Molly is the maid
Speaker 2: of Honor, so she has planned the whole weekend and
Speaker 2: I guess she probably has funded a lot of it
Speaker 2: as well, because she earns so much money. She did
Speaker 2: share a photo on Instagram showing the group on the
Speaker 2: time at getting ready to board the Ryan Air flight,
Speaker 2: and this led to followers weighing in. One rote, love you, Molly,
Speaker 2: but your friend gets a private jet.
Speaker 1: For her b day but your sister doesn't for her.
Speaker 2: Hens, I'd be raging, whilst another said it makes me
Speaker 2: giggle that Molly got a jet for her mate's birthday
Speaker 2: but Ryan Air for her sister's hen. That is the
Speaker 2: thing I thought immediately as well, because I loved watching
Speaker 2: the recent vogs where Molly took her friends to this
Speaker 2: beautiful ski town and they were on a private jet.
Speaker 2: Zoe was there, and I was expecting when Molly started
Speaker 2: sharing behind the scenes of this HENS that they would
Speaker 2: be walking onto a private jet. So I was flabbergasted
Speaker 2: when it was rubber Ryanair. But she probably copped so
Speaker 2: much criticism for taking her friends on that private jet
Speaker 2: that they thought, Fuck, we don't really want to be
Speaker 2: dealing with all this backlash when it's Zoe's Hens. Let's
Speaker 2: just go Ryan Air exactly, not just for the most
Speaker 2: recent time on the jet, but in the past she
Speaker 2: has copped so much criticism with fans asking her to
Speaker 2: think about her carbon foot print or saying that she
Speaker 2: is flaunting her wealth, so it wouldn't have been a
Speaker 2: good look to back it up again. It is interesting though,
Speaker 2: that this strategy of oh, let's just go on a
Speaker 2: normal budget airline seems to have backfighted.
Speaker 1: It's like you can't win.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, But I do think it has something to
Speaker 2: do with the fact that a lot of Molly's followers
Speaker 2: also folly follow Zoe, and I think that people have
Speaker 2: a soft spot for Zoe because she seems sort.
Speaker 1: Of like the more normal Molly may like.
Speaker 2: She doesn't live in this huge mansion and she's a
Speaker 2: bit more of a normal person, so I think they
Speaker 2: feel like she's been shortchanged.
Speaker 1: Well, the funny thing about this hens is.
Speaker 2: It was the furthest from a budget.
Speaker 1: HENS that you can get.
Speaker 2: She pulled out all of the stops to ensure that
Speaker 2: her sister was absolutely spoiled. So the group checked into
Speaker 2: a luxurious villa where Molly had arranged for the pool
Speaker 2: to be filled with heart shaped inflatable rings, and she
Speaker 2: also organized these really cute hangover packs so they had
Speaker 2: rehydration sachets in them as well as a beauty bag,
Speaker 2: and they also went on a very lavish boat tree
Speaker 2: as well as partied in the VIP section of a
Speaker 2: number of different nightclubs.
Speaker 1: So Molly really.
Speaker 2: Did go above and beyond to make this a special weekend.
Speaker 2: Her sister Mollie must have spent a fortune on this
Speaker 2: trip because she did have her security team fly over with.
Speaker 1: Her as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's clear that she didn't want anything to ruin
Speaker 4: this trip. She has had to have security follow her
Speaker 4: around ever since her and Tommy's apartment got robbed a
Speaker 4: couple of years ago. Maybe she was also scared to
Speaker 4: be away on this girl's trip without Tommy.
Speaker 2: Then, especially if they're drinking and partying. Now, this trip
Speaker 2: has come off the back of persistent rumors for weeks
Speaker 2: now that Tommy and Molly have split up. So Tommy
Speaker 2: and Molly they have been together since twenty nineteen when
Speaker 2: they came second on Love Island, and they got engaged
Speaker 2: last year and also share a daughter together. So the
Speaker 2: breakup rumors were sparked on May fifth when Molly posted
Speaker 2: a selfie without her six hundred thousand dollars diamond engagement
Speaker 2: ring on and following that her ring was also missing
Speaker 2: in subsequent stories. It wasn't as though she was trying
Speaker 2: to hide her hand, though, because she shared a close
Speaker 2: up of her hand wearing two other rings, so a
Speaker 2: ring on her index finger and a middle finger ring
Speaker 2: to show.
Speaker 1: Off her fresh nails.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but everyone's always trying to spot if she's wearing
Speaker 4: this ring. I actually think it comes down to the
Speaker 4: fact that the ring is obnoxiously big and would be
Speaker 4: so uncomfortable to wear and perhaps probably not safe for
Speaker 4: her to wear out in public, considering it costs so
Speaker 4: much money and she could be robbed.
Speaker 2: Well, people found it weird because Tommy was three thousand
Speaker 2: miles away in Dubai. He was there because his brother
Speaker 2: Tyson is fighting in a boxing match. I love how
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, just some boxing match. Tyson Fury was
Speaker 2: competing for the title of heavyweight world Champion.
Speaker 1: He did lose it as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't care about that. We just want to
Speaker 2: hear the gossip. There are other reasons though, that people
Speaker 2: think a breakup has happened. One is because it was
Speaker 2: recently Tommy's twenty fifth birthday, and usually Molly would post
Speaker 2: a very gushing post on Instagram and she'd share some
Speaker 2: elaborate balloon installation that she'd pay people to set up.
Speaker 2: But this year didn't post anything.
Speaker 4: How was the only twenty five mins?
Speaker 2: Well, she also didn't publicly congratulate Tommy for landing a
Speaker 2: role in an upcoming comedy movie. So this is what
Speaker 2: haspikes a lot of speculation, and what has pushed it
Speaker 2: further is the fact that Molly May was posting a
Speaker 2: ton of thirst traps at this Hens party.
Speaker 1: She looked incredible.
Speaker 2: She has spoken about before that she doesn't usually feel
Speaker 2: comfortable wearing bikinis, but on this trip she lived in
Speaker 2: bikini There's a shot of her in a cowboy hat
Speaker 2: with a black bikini on Oh my God, she looked insane.
Speaker 2: Don't you think this is a part of brand deals though,
Speaker 2: Like she's obviously been dressed to go on this trip
Speaker 2: and has to take furs of what she's wearing. I
Speaker 2: also think it might coincide with the fact that she
Speaker 2: I think she hired a personal trainer about six months ago,
Speaker 2: and maybe she's finally feeling confident in her own body.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, the catch is.
Speaker 2: In these photos she is wearing her very large engagement ring,
Speaker 2: and once she got back to the UK, she squashed
Speaker 2: the rumors completely by sharing a photo of Tommy with
Speaker 2: a little white love heart and a house emoji. So
Speaker 2: I am relieved they are my favorite influencer couple. Thank
Speaker 2: god they are not on the rocks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just a trend. Every time she spotted without
Speaker 4: her engagement ring on. People are going to write these
Speaker 4: rumors because at the end of the day, people actually
Speaker 4: don't want them to be together. I think there's quite
Speaker 4: a lot of jealousy about this relationship and.
Speaker 1: Its clickbait as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't want to believe it's as good as
Speaker 4: they make out it to be.
Speaker 5: This is a PSA for all creators who work with
Speaker 5: food troble lifestyle blah blah blah. I received the most
Speaker 5: horrible message yesterday from a restaurant wanting to work with them,
Speaker 5: and I need to make you aware so you guys
Speaker 5: never work with them and know your standard.
Speaker 4: A micro influencers attempt to expose a restaurant for a parent,
Speaker 4: rude and unprofessional behavior has backfired. Jameson May, who promotes
Speaker 4: herself as a travel, lifestyle, fashion and food creator, reached
Speaker 4: out to Melbourne vegetarian restaurant Pat's regarding a collaboration. She
Speaker 4: was left fuming though, when the restaurant replied, saying, you
Speaker 4: don't seem to have any followers, maybe you should approach
Speaker 4: us when you have over one hundred k.
Speaker 1: How many followers does she have?
Speaker 4: So she has a main Instagram account where she posts
Speaker 4: fashion content and on that account she has fifteen thousand. However,
Speaker 4: she posts her food and travel content on a separate
Speaker 4: account which only has one point one thousand followers.
Speaker 1: That's alarm bells for me.
Speaker 2: Why are you having to have two separate Instagram account? Yeah,
Speaker 2: well I can see why the restaurant told her to
Speaker 2: go get more followers now. Jameson replied, writing, sorry, but
Speaker 2: that is extremely rude, and the restaurant hit back with this, perhaps,
Speaker 2: but you are pretending to be influential on social media
Speaker 2: and that's not true. And rather than me saying that
Speaker 2: you are lying and pretending to be beneficial to our business,
Speaker 2: I just said, come back when you're actually able to
Speaker 2: do what you think we should engage you to do.
Speaker 2: Is it rude to question something that's obviously not true?
Speaker 2: Now you can tell in the screenshot that Jameson then.
Speaker 1: Blocked the restaurant.
Speaker 2: This restaurant owner is one hundred percent correct. If you
Speaker 2: are approaching a restaurant and you don't have a large following,
Speaker 2: but you're giving it the big end that you've got,
Speaker 2: You're going to benefit their restaurant highly by promoting their food.
Speaker 1: That is a flat out lie.
Speaker 2: So why can't they call it out and say, sorry,
Speaker 2: you actually don't have the metrics for us to have.
Speaker 1: You in for a free meal or to pay you
Speaker 1: to eat here.
Speaker 2: The nerve of her to actually ask as well, with
Speaker 2: that kind of follower count.
Speaker 4: Well, rather than taking the feedback on board, Jamazon took
Speaker 4: to her TikTok to blast the restaurant in an almost
Speaker 4: three minute rant. So she framed it as a PSA
Speaker 4: to other content creators, but it was quite clear she
Speaker 4: was just trying to name and shame the restaurant. So
Speaker 4: Jameson explained that she sent her usual template to Patsy's,
Speaker 4: but personalized it to tell them what she thinks they're
Speaker 4: missing and what she can do for them. Oh she
Speaker 4: then said.
Speaker 5: This, and I'm absolutely gobsmacked.
Speaker 1: I had no words.
Speaker 5: I was actually like just gusted that someone could say
Speaker 5: that to another person like this is clearly someone not
Speaker 5: in marketing. They don't understand literally anything.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: Jameson went on to say that fiyons the follow account
Speaker 4: does not matter and it's all about your audience, engagement,
Speaker 4: and reach. She then said, my engagement and reach, considering
Speaker 4: I have a small follow account, is really really good.
Speaker 4: She didn't actually cite her engagement and reach stats.
Speaker 2: So I would have thought that if they were so good,
Speaker 2: you would say what they are.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But also when you have a lower follower account, your
Speaker 2: engagement is always going to be better. She's probably got
Speaker 2: a lot of family and friends that are part of
Speaker 2: her following follow account that are liking all of her
Speaker 2: posts and engaging with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: She also addressed the comment about lying about being influential
Speaker 4: and said this and.
Speaker 5: Then the second message where they tell me I'm pretaining
Speaker 5: to be influential, But that's not the point. The point
Speaker 5: is to get people to go through creating fun, loving content.
Speaker 5: It's like, yes, it's to influence them to go, but
Speaker 5: that could pop up on the for you page and
Speaker 5: get over a million views while three hundred followers. That's
Speaker 5: really not how it works. But I was just disgusted
Speaker 5: in the way that they said it. I think that's
Speaker 5: what actually pissed me off more.
Speaker 2: She's clearly got this restaurant offside with her initial email,
Speaker 2: because she has said that she outlined them the things
Speaker 2: that they.
Speaker 1: Were doing wrong in marketing and.
Speaker 2: How they could improve, and it's like, well, they've come
Speaker 2: back and said, well, maybe you're not marketing yourself that
Speaker 2: well as an influence.
Speaker 1: So considering you've got a thousand, and.
Speaker 4: Also they must get so many emails like this. I
Speaker 4: did have a look at Jamison's page, and the attention
Speaker 4: that she's gotten off the back of this story seems
Speaker 4: to have skewed the views on her most recent reel
Speaker 4: because it is sitting at eight hundred and ninety five
Speaker 4: thousand views. However, the rest of her reels ranged from
Speaker 4: five hundred views to a couple of thousand. And I
Speaker 4: went a step further and I looked Jameson's account up
Speaker 4: on social Blade, which is a social media analysis website,
Speaker 4: and I can't view her engagement rate because her likes
Speaker 4: are set to private. So if she has such a
Speaker 4: good engagement rate, then why is she hiding her likes?
Speaker 2: Outrage culture is so rife at the moment, and it's
Speaker 2: actually making a lot of micro influences more popular. So
Speaker 2: they are seizing the opportunity to be outraged about something.
Speaker 2: As you said, Kate, it is sewing her engagement rate
Speaker 2: at the moment. In actual fact, it's the restaurant who
Speaker 2: should be outraged. Well, maybe they should have shared a
Speaker 2: TikTok of their response to receiving her exactly.
Speaker 1: Their TikTok would have blown out. I would have loved
Speaker 1: to see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well their response was pretty epic back and I
Speaker 2: think that's why the backlash has been so swift against Jamison,
Speaker 2: because she went out to name and shame them. But
Speaker 2: it's her as actually ended up being criticized on TikTok. So.
Speaker 4: She was labeled entitled and accused of trying to get
Speaker 4: free stuff, so much so that she was actually forced
Speaker 4: to turn the comments off on her original post. Now,
Speaker 4: rather than taking again that feedback on board, she claimed
Speaker 4: that it was just because her content reached the wrong
Speaker 4: audience on TikTok So. She said it was served to
Speaker 4: non creators and influencers who didn't understand what was happening. Now,
Speaker 4: in augue respect, we live in a social media world,
Speaker 4: people understand the relationship between content creators and brands, So
Speaker 4: I think that she is really trying to make a
Speaker 4: lot of excuses here. Do you think in this instance, though,
Speaker 4: it will actually help her social media career Because a
Speaker 4: video blowing up like that, she's obviously got some attention.
Speaker 4: It's ricocheted into people then watching her most recent TikTok
Speaker 4: video as well.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I did go.
Speaker 4: Over to her Instagram account and she was excitedly sharing
Speaker 4: how a lot of traditional media outlets had reached out
Speaker 4: for her for an interview, and at first I think
Speaker 4: she thought it was going to be really positive, but
Speaker 4: once the story started coming out and it was skewed
Speaker 4: negatively towards her, she's actually gone on a break from
Speaker 4: social media now. The owners of Patsy's have come out
Speaker 4: and said it was an obvious decision for them not
Speaker 4: to work with Jameson given her follower profile. They said,
Speaker 4: her followers are not really people that we have in
Speaker 4: the venue often, and probably not the market that we
Speaker 4: are looking to engage with. I think she was just
Speaker 4: hoping to increase her visibility with these outrage posts.
Speaker 1: It sort of has worked.
Speaker 4: Already, but I'm not sure how it will be able
Speaker 4: to be monetized As marketing, I tend to agree with them.
Speaker 4: I also think that the pr is better for Patsy's because.
Speaker 1: I look at them and go, oh, I really liked
Speaker 1: that clap back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe I'll go there when I'm in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you assume that anyone posting about the restaurant
Speaker 2: actually genuinely likes it in the future, And then I'm
Speaker 2: just being like going in for a free Mealay.
Speaker 5: Run a weeks from here and get out of here
Speaker 5: and show you guys her room, horas and shine.
Speaker 4: Let's get into the highs and lows of the week.
Speaker 4: I will kick us off. My high is finding a
Speaker 4: dupe for Mac's studio Fixed Foundation.
Speaker 1: I love that foundation.
Speaker 4: It is top tier. I've been using it ever since
Speaker 4: I was eighteen. However, it is quite pricey, and when
Speaker 4: I am just bumming around the house, maybe popping to
Speaker 4: coals and going for a dog walk, I want a foundation.
Speaker 1: That isn't going to cost me a lot.
Speaker 2: So I did some googling and I found that the
Speaker 2: Mabeling fit Me Foundation is apparently a good jupe.
Speaker 4: But I'm always a little bit suspicious mark my words.
Speaker 4: It is a great jupe. So I got the Matt
Speaker 4: and Paulus version of the Fit Me Foundation. It's only
Speaker 4: thirteen dollars on sale at the moment.
Speaker 1: It is so good.
Speaker 4: I would say Max Studio Fix is better in terms
Speaker 4: of durability. You can wear it for longer, but it is.
Speaker 1: A great jupe for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got some and I was really impressed with it. Now,
Speaker 2: my loaf of the week is pregnancy sleep. I am
Speaker 2: thirty five weeks pregnant at the moment, and sleep is
Speaker 2: not easy. I need to get up and go to
Speaker 2: the toilet all the time. When you are pregnant, you
Speaker 2: can't lie on your back or obviously your stomach, and
Speaker 2: I love lying on my stomach, so I'm happy to
Speaker 2: lie on my side. And I saw this hilarious TikTok
Speaker 2: that I could not relate to more. It's said that
Speaker 2: when you're pregnant, it feels like you're a hot dog
Speaker 2: on one of those rotation heaters in America where you're
Speaker 2: just going back and forth.
Speaker 1: It is so true.
Speaker 4: However, what is making me feel slightly better is TikTok
Speaker 4: is telling me that apparently pregnancy sleep is worse than
Speaker 4: sleep with a newborn. Oh wow, that might sound delusional.
Speaker 2: Revisit this in a few weeks. I'm a little bit worried,
Speaker 2: but I'm hoping that is true. Do you regret not
Speaker 2: buying the pregnancy pillow? Now?
Speaker 4: No, I've been pushing through with my squish mellow simon.
Speaker 1: Do you also regret not buying maternity clothes?
Speaker 2: I actually purchased two NBA jumpers from cotton On that
Speaker 2: I will be wearing, no doubt a lot in our
Speaker 2: video is coming up. But yes, Amy, you did tell
Speaker 2: me how terrible I looked the other day in my
Speaker 2: jumper that I have been thrashing because it's literally more
Speaker 2: your tites that look uncomfortable at this day.
Speaker 1: Fine, I just couldn't stand it.
Speaker 2: I'd need some sort of I'd need maternity jeans and
Speaker 2: a maternity pair of tracksuit pants or pajamas.
Speaker 4: Mark my words.
Speaker 2: You do not want to be wearing jeans when you're
Speaker 2: thirty five weeks pure. Yeah, but if you're going out
Speaker 2: to a rest on or something, yeah, you like you
Speaker 2: just leg suck it up and just put the big uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: Once you're pregnant, will see how you feel. My Love
Speaker 4: of the Week is also sleep related.
Speaker 2: But it's that I'm such a night owl and I
Speaker 2: just can't switch off at nighttime like a hop into
Speaker 2: bed and I'm just on my phone scrolling.
Speaker 1: It's the worst.
Speaker 2: I should put my phone down, and then it just
Speaker 2: makes me not feel motivated in the morning and it's
Speaker 2: so cold at the moment.
Speaker 1: It might be a better routine.
Speaker 2: I think you need to put your phone away, maybe
Speaker 2: an hour before you go. I need to lock it away,
Speaker 2: like do people. Some people have like a cabinet that
Speaker 2: they actually physically lock. See the other day, we were
Speaker 2: talking about eating in the shower and my mother in
Speaker 2: law listen to the.
Speaker 1: Episode and she goes to me, how do you actually
Speaker 1: go on your phone in the shower? And I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 1: I forget people.
Speaker 4: I know you listen to it and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: I don't stand under the water.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very easy. Well, my high of the week.
Speaker 2: It's a bit of a mundane one, but basically touching
Speaker 2: on in laws. My in laws have been renovating our
Speaker 2: house at the moment with my partner.
Speaker 1: I need to hire them out, like.
Speaker 2: You guys wanted me to hire them out. They're doing
Speaker 2: the most incredible job. They built a little shelf.
Speaker 1: The other day. They put shelving, well, they put Yeah,
Speaker 1: they put shelving in.
Speaker 2: And I'm so excited because i got my wedding photos
Speaker 2: back this week and my high of the week is
Speaker 2: that I'm going to get them printed and feel like
Speaker 2: I'm in a real adult house.
Speaker 1: Because I've been a shelf.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, I'm gonna put them on shelf, and i
Speaker 2: just feel like I've been in rentals for so many
Speaker 2: years that don't have that personal touch, and now that
Speaker 2: I've lucky enough to have bought my own home, I'm
Speaker 2: just excited to actually put those personal bits in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is really exciting.
Speaker 2: My high of the week would be discovering the Osborne's podcast.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're easily offended, maybe don't listen to it,
Speaker 2: but far out It just took me back to watching
Speaker 2: their show back in two thousand and one, and it's
Speaker 2: made me want to go and seek it out on YouTube.
Speaker 2: Apparently they are recording at the moment sort of like
Speaker 2: a goggle Box style show where they do watch it
Speaker 2: back and if you subscribe I think it's called Osborne
Speaker 2: Media House, then you were able to see the episodes,
Speaker 2: but oh my god, they are hilarious together. What sort
Speaker 2: of It's touted as a comedy podcast. Yeah, Jack Osborne
Speaker 2: has really grown up, and he and Kelly so their
Speaker 2: brother and sister. They like even though they've grown up.
Speaker 2: I love the fact that their sense of humor hasn't changed. Well,
Speaker 2: I just love how petty they are. Like, remember there
Speaker 2: was an iconic episode where they had this argument with
Speaker 2: the neighbors and they threw ham over the phock We're.
Speaker 4: Gonna say when they were debating whether it was he
Speaker 4: said stick or dick.
Speaker 2: No no, because they had Sharon on and she was
Speaker 2: telling a story about how they had she had this
Speaker 2: disagreement with this movie company who were coming to film
Speaker 2: in the Street, and they just sounded exactly the same
Speaker 2: as they were in two thousand and one, just having
Speaker 2: these like petty issues with everybody. My low would be
Speaker 2: just how cold and dark it's now getting And I
Speaker 2: love to go for a walk after work, but seems
Speaker 2: to be getting so dark so quickly, and it's really
Speaker 2: pissing me off because women can't feel safe to walk
Speaker 2: around in the dark. And I've been having this discussion
Speaker 2: with my partner and I'm just saying, like, you know,
Speaker 2: for instance, he can go and jog around the block
Speaker 2: when it's pitch black, but for me, I would feel
Speaker 2: so unsafe, and actually where you would be on safety,
Speaker 2: I would And a friend of ours, Sarah, she put
Speaker 2: it so well. She said she was trying to explain
Speaker 2: to her partner how you feel as a woman walking
Speaker 2: in the dark, and she said, it's like you've taken
Speaker 2: out all of your all the money in the bank
Speaker 2: that you own and you're literally out in public walking
Speaker 2: around with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't think men will ever fully comprehend what it
Speaker 4: is like.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: That is where we're going to leave things today. If
Speaker 4: you do want to hear more content from us, we
Speaker 4: did drop a subscriber episode yesterday with extra influencer topics.
Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded.
Speaker 4: On the traditional land of the Ghana people of the
Speaker 4: Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders past and present,