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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken.

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Speaker 2: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture

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Speaker 2: news twice a week.

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Speaker 1: Coming up.

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Speaker 2: On today's show, Anna Paul reveals she no longer feels

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Speaker 2: safe in her current rental, Molly May islam for booking

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Speaker 2: a budget airline for her sister's hands, and a micro

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Speaker 2: influences expose on a restaurant backfires on her. But first,

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Speaker 2: Anna Macavoy's Destination wedding was thrown into chaos when a

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Speaker 2: sandstorm threatened to ground flights and interrupt her upcoming nuptials

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Speaker 2: to her fiance, Michael Staples. Anna shared the news with

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Speaker 2: her TikTok followers while she and Michael were grounded on

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Speaker 2: the tarmac in Istanbul.

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Speaker 1: Here's what she said.

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Speaker 3: So, we are getting married in that Corfu, Greece in

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Speaker 3: four days and there is a sand storm over the

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Speaker 3: island of Corfu. We are currently on the tarmac. We've

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Speaker 3: been grounded from taking off, So pray for us and

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Speaker 3: pray for help guests that ever I can get there,

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Speaker 3: because this was not land and not expected at all.

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Speaker 4: This seems to be a bit of a trend at

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Speaker 4: the moment with influencers and destination weddings. Recently, Rachel Dillon

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Speaker 4: actually had to move her wedding forward because of rain

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Speaker 4: in Italy. A bit of a first world problem for influencers,

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Speaker 4: but this would have been very stressful.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize how chaotic a sandstorm actually is. I

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Speaker 2: googled it and it turns the whole sky orange, So.

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Speaker 1: It would have completely ruined their day.

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Speaker 2: Also, it would be really difficult for guests to actually

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Speaker 2: be able to land safely at the airport. Luckily, a

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Speaker 2: day later, Anna updated her followers to say that it

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Speaker 2: was crisis averted and that the storm had passed. She

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Speaker 2: said the sky was no longer orange, but it was

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Speaker 2: still a little bit cloudy day. An orange sky actually

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Speaker 2: sounds quite nice for sunset style. Yeah, but I'm assumed

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Speaker 2: they're more worried about flights not being able to land.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, Luckily she did confirm that it hadn't affected any

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Speaker 2: of the guests traveling there, which was such a relief

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Speaker 2: because I have been hanging out for Tammy and Matt's

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Speaker 2: content in Greece. They always seem to keep things entertaining

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Speaker 2: for us whilst they're overseers.

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Speaker 4: And you are referring to Tammy Hembro and Anna's co host,

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Speaker 4: Matt Szakowski. I was wondering how Anna felt about having

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Speaker 4: to invite Tammy because she has been posting a lot

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Speaker 4: of content while she's been in corfew, almost overshadowing it

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Speaker 2: Well, I have seen that discussion going on online because

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Speaker 2: Tammy has been sharing a lot. So she shared a

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Speaker 2: TikTok at the airport showing that she and Matt were

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Speaker 2: traveling child free, And it did make me laugh because

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Speaker 2: Matt brought his Love Island suitcase along with him on

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Speaker 4: Did you bring his drink bottle as well?

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Speaker 1: Not sure about the drink bottle.

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Speaker 2: But when they were at the couple's welcome dinner, because

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Speaker 2: they had this fancy welcome dinner on the beach, and

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Speaker 2: there was this weird photo of Tammy and Matt kissing,

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Speaker 2: the air. It kind of felt like a bit MEMI me, like,

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Speaker 1: This is all about us.

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Speaker 4: It kind of reminded me on Friends when Monica and

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Speaker 4: Phoebe were competing over who the Hottest Couple was like,

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Speaker 4: that was the vibe you really got photo she.

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Speaker 1: Was necessarily doing that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's more so because they are part of

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Speaker 2: this podcast that talks about love and relationship. It's kind

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Speaker 2: of like they're showing off that they've both now got

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know about you, but I've never

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Speaker 2: had friends who say, oh, let's take a photo of

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Speaker 2: both of us kissing. No, I think the event is

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Speaker 2: about Anna and her part, not about Tammy and Matt.

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Speaker 2: And while Tammy probably isn't trying to make it about

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Speaker 2: But if Tammy didn't share anything while she was over there,

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Speaker 2: she'd probably gets slammed. Yeah, but she could share visional

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Speaker 2: photos of Anna and Michael. Yeah, but that's going to

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Speaker 2: bomb on her own social media accounts, her Instagram store. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's good, but no one cares about them.

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Speaker 1: They care about Tammy.

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Speaker 4: I actually get the vibe that Anna is scared about

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Speaker 4: what Tammy is going to share to her millions the followers.

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Speaker 4: Because Matt and Anna on the most recent episode of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really interesting.

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Speaker 4: So Anna basically said that no one is allowed to

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Speaker 4: share anything about her wedding until she posts, and that

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Speaker 1: I think the.

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Speaker 2: Reason that everyone is building up this rivalry between the

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Speaker 2: two couples is because Matt previously said on his podcast

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Speaker 2: that he was considering proposing to Tammy whilst on Anna's

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Speaker 2: wedding trip, but he opted instead to do it in

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Speaker 2: the Maudives last year, and I think that's why everyone

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Speaker 2: is feeling a bit uncomfortable and thinking, please, don't take

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Speaker 2: their moment away from them, particularly when Tammy and Matt

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Speaker 2: have only been together for such a short period of time.

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Speaker 4: Now, Anna did drop a bit of a bomb on

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Speaker 4: the most recent episode of her and Matt's podcast. She

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Speaker 4: revealed that she actually got married before she left for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all very odd though, I mean, wouldn't you

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Speaker 2: just think maybe I'll add an extra bridesmaid instead of

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Speaker 2: making them the celebrates. So does it really matter, Like,

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Speaker 4: An odd It's a personal decision. I felt so uncomfortable

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Speaker 4: listening to this podcast though, because Matt asked Anna about

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Speaker 4: what it was like consummating the registry office marriage. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and he seemed very interested in the lingerie that Anna

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Speaker 4: I just got a really slimy vibe off the whole conversation, like.

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Speaker 1: His mouth was drooling when he asked her that question.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he thinks he's asking what everyone wants to know

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Speaker 4: Nah, it was beyond that. Was it just me or

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Speaker 4: was it really frustrating that he couldn't seem to understand

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Speaker 4: the difference between a registry wedding and an elopeman yeah.

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Speaker 2: He kept calling it a runaway wedding, and she's like, no,

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Speaker 1: It's just that we had to do.

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Speaker 2: It at a registry office so that it would be

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Speaker 4: He also came across as really immature talking about weddings

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Speaker 4: because Anna was saying, how, oh, I feel so old

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Speaker 4: was like, oh, yeah, look, and it's like, you're engaged, buddy.

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Speaker 1: You know what you're not doing.

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Speaker 5: You're not treating yourself like a baby when you should be.

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Speaker 5: When you're sad, when you're going through something, you need

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Speaker 4: Anna Paul has revealed she's moving house at the end

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Speaker 4: of the month because she no longer feels safe in

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Speaker 4: her current rental. Despite living in a gated community, the

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Speaker 4: Anna suggesting that she moved to an acreage, but Anna

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Speaker 2: It's crazy to think that some influencers have this level

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Speaker 2: that people are easily able to find her, because she

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Speaker 2: She also encourages people to use whiteboard markers and ride

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Speaker 2: I think what's scary in this instance is that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people would view Anna as their friend because

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Speaker 2: they keep up with what she's doing every single day

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Speaker 2: with her vlogs, and it obviously is creating this really

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Speaker 2: and influencers probably do need to consider what they're posting

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Speaker 2: for their own safety. It'd be particularly tough for Anna

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Speaker 2: because her persona online is that she's very kind, she's

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Speaker 4: A lot, particularly in a gated community. Another big motivator

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Speaker 4: currently Anna's iconic green BMW doesn't actually fit in the

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Speaker 4: also seen on her tiktop that her clothes don't fit

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Speaker 4: surprised she hasn't actually bought her own house, but I'm

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Speaker 4: now wondering if she purposely hasn't bought a property because

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Speaker 4: I would assume she would own some investment properties, but

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Speaker 4: because of the lifestyle that she leads, she is overseas

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Speaker 2: Her, especially having Addis back in twenty twenty, he was

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Speaker 2: one of those finance bros handing out advice. Surely he

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Speaker 4: Anna has also opened up about her weight loss, so

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Speaker 4: interesting in itself that she's posting on Snapchat, she admitted

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Speaker 1: So she said that she lost.

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Speaker 4: Her period for eight months and was so so so

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Speaker 4: skinny and so malnourished because of stress and sadness. She wrote,

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Speaker 4: boobs completely deflated and would just loose skin, and none

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Speaker 4: is just what stress can do to you. Fortunately, it

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Speaker 4: does appear like Anna has turned a corner. She said

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Speaker 2: A week, and this weight loss coincided with her breakup

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's clear that she didn't want anything to ruin

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but everyone's always trying to spot if she's wearing

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Speaker 2: Well, people found it weird because Tommy was three thousand

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't care about that. We just want to

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Speaker 2: Well, she also didn't publicly congratulate Tommy for landing a

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Speaker 1: She looked incredible.

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Speaker 2: She has spoken about before that she doesn't usually feel

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Speaker 2: Don't you think this is a part of brand deals though,

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Speaker 2: In these photos she is wearing her very large engagement ring,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just a trend. Every time she spotted without

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Speaker 1: Its clickbait as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't want to believe it's as good as

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Speaker 5: This is a PSA for all creators who work with

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Speaker 4: A micro influencers attempt to expose a restaurant for a parent,

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Speaker 4: So she has a main Instagram account where she posts

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Speaker 4: fashion content and on that account she has fifteen thousand. However,

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Speaker 2: Why are you having to have two separate Instagram account? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you are pretending to be influential on social media

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Speaker 2: I just said, come back when you're actually able to

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Speaker 2: do what you think we should engage you to do.

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Speaker 2: Is it rude to question something that's obviously not true?

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Speaker 2: This restaurant owner is one hundred percent correct. If you

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Speaker 2: You're going to benefit their restaurant highly by promoting their food.

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Speaker 1: That is a flat out lie.

442
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Speaker 2: So why can't they call it out and say, sorry,

443
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Speaker 2: you actually don't have the metrics for us to have.

444
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Speaker 1: You in for a free meal or to pay you

445
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Speaker 1: to eat here.

446
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 2: The nerve of her to actually ask as well, with

447
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 2: that kind of follower count.

448
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Speaker 4: Well, rather than taking the feedback on board, Jamazon took

449
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 4: to her TikTok to blast the restaurant in an almost

450
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Speaker 4: three minute rant. So she framed it as a PSA

451
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,959
Speaker 4: to other content creators, but it was quite clear she

452
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 4: was just trying to name and shame the restaurant. So

453
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Speaker 4: Jameson explained that she sent her usual template to Patsy's,

454
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Speaker 4: but personalized it to tell them what she thinks they're

455
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Speaker 4: missing and what she can do for them. Oh she

456
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 4: then said.

457
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Speaker 5: This, and I'm absolutely gobsmacked.

458
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Speaker 1: I had no words.

459
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Speaker 5: I was actually like just gusted that someone could say

460
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 5: that to another person like this is clearly someone not

461
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 5: in marketing. They don't understand literally anything.

462
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Speaker 2: Now.

463
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Speaker 4: Jameson went on to say that fiyons the follow account

464
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Speaker 4: does not matter and it's all about your audience, engagement,

465
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Speaker 4: and reach. She then said, my engagement and reach, considering

466
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Speaker 4: I have a small follow account, is really really good.

467
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Speaker 4: She didn't actually cite her engagement and reach stats.

468
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Speaker 2: So I would have thought that if they were so good,

469
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Speaker 2: you would say what they are.

470
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

471
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Speaker 2: But also when you have a lower follower account, your

472
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 2: engagement is always going to be better. She's probably got

473
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Speaker 2: a lot of family and friends that are part of

474
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Speaker 2: her following follow account that are liking all of her

475
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Speaker 2: posts and engaging with it.

476
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

477
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Speaker 4: She also addressed the comment about lying about being influential

478
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 4: and said this and.

479
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Speaker 5: Then the second message where they tell me I'm pretaining

480
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Speaker 5: to be influential, But that's not the point. The point

481
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 5: is to get people to go through creating fun, loving content.

482
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Speaker 5: It's like, yes, it's to influence them to go, but

483
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Speaker 5: that could pop up on the for you page and

484
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 5: get over a million views while three hundred followers. That's

485
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 5: really not how it works. But I was just disgusted

486
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 5: in the way that they said it. I think that's

487
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Speaker 5: what actually pissed me off more.

488
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Speaker 2: She's clearly got this restaurant offside with her initial email,

489
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Speaker 2: because she has said that she outlined them the things

490
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Speaker 2: that they.

491
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 1: Were doing wrong in marketing and.

492
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 2: How they could improve, and it's like, well, they've come

493
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Speaker 2: back and said, well, maybe you're not marketing yourself that

494
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Speaker 2: well as an influence.

495
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Speaker 1: So considering you've got a thousand, and.

496
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Speaker 4: Also they must get so many emails like this. I

497
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 4: did have a look at Jamison's page, and the attention

498
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Speaker 4: that she's gotten off the back of this story seems

499
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 4: to have skewed the views on her most recent reel

500
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Speaker 4: because it is sitting at eight hundred and ninety five

501
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 4: thousand views. However, the rest of her reels ranged from

502
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 4: five hundred views to a couple of thousand. And I

503
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 4: went a step further and I looked Jameson's account up

504
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 4: on social Blade, which is a social media analysis website,

505
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Speaker 4: and I can't view her engagement rate because her likes

506
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 4: are set to private. So if she has such a

507
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 4: good engagement rate, then why is she hiding her likes?

508
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Speaker 2: Outrage culture is so rife at the moment, and it's

509
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 2: actually making a lot of micro influences more popular. So

510
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: they are seizing the opportunity to be outraged about something.

511
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Speaker 2: As you said, Kate, it is sewing her engagement rate

512
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 2: at the moment. In actual fact, it's the restaurant who

513
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: should be outraged. Well, maybe they should have shared a

514
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: TikTok of their response to receiving her exactly.

515
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: Their TikTok would have blown out. I would have loved

516
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: to see that.

517
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well their response was pretty epic back and I

518
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 2: think that's why the backlash has been so swift against Jamison,

519
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 2: because she went out to name and shame them. But

520
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 2: it's her as actually ended up being criticized on TikTok. So.

521
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 4: She was labeled entitled and accused of trying to get

522
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 4: free stuff, so much so that she was actually forced

523
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 4: to turn the comments off on her original post. Now,

524
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 4: rather than taking again that feedback on board, she claimed

525
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 4: that it was just because her content reached the wrong

526
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 4: audience on TikTok So. She said it was served to

527
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 4: non creators and influencers who didn't understand what was happening. Now,

528
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 4: in augue respect, we live in a social media world,

529
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 4: people understand the relationship between content creators and brands, So

530
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 4: I think that she is really trying to make a

531
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 4: lot of excuses here. Do you think in this instance, though,

532
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 4: it will actually help her social media career Because a

533
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 4: video blowing up like that, she's obviously got some attention.

534
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 4: It's ricocheted into people then watching her most recent TikTok

535
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 4: video as well.

536
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 2: Well.

537
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: I did go.

538
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 4: Over to her Instagram account and she was excitedly sharing

539
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 4: how a lot of traditional media outlets had reached out

540
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 4: for her for an interview, and at first I think

541
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 4: she thought it was going to be really positive, but

542
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 4: once the story started coming out and it was skewed

543
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 4: negatively towards her, she's actually gone on a break from

544
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 4: social media now. The owners of Patsy's have come out

545
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 4: and said it was an obvious decision for them not

546
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 4: to work with Jameson given her follower profile. They said,

547
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 4: her followers are not really people that we have in

548
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 4: the venue often, and probably not the market that we

549
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 4: are looking to engage with. I think she was just

550
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 4: hoping to increase her visibility with these outrage posts.

551
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: It sort of has worked.

552
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 4: Already, but I'm not sure how it will be able

553
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 4: to be monetized As marketing, I tend to agree with them.

554
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: I also think that the pr is better for Patsy's because.

555
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: I look at them and go, oh, I really liked

556
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: that clap back.

557
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe I'll go there when I'm in Melbourne.

558
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you assume that anyone posting about the restaurant

559
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 2: actually genuinely likes it in the future, And then I'm

560
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: just being like going in for a free Mealay.

561
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Speaker 5: Run a weeks from here and get out of here

562
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 5: and show you guys her room, horas and shine.

563
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 4: Let's get into the highs and lows of the week.

564
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 4: I will kick us off. My high is finding a

565
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 4: dupe for Mac's studio Fixed Foundation.

566
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: I love that foundation.

567
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 4: It is top tier. I've been using it ever since

568
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 4: I was eighteen. However, it is quite pricey, and when

569
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 4: I am just bumming around the house, maybe popping to

570
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 4: coals and going for a dog walk, I want a foundation.

571
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: That isn't going to cost me a lot.

572
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 2: So I did some googling and I found that the

573
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: Mabeling fit Me Foundation is apparently a good jupe.

574
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 4: But I'm always a little bit suspicious mark my words.

575
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 4: It is a great jupe. So I got the Matt

576
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 4: and Paulus version of the Fit Me Foundation. It's only

577
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 4: thirteen dollars on sale at the moment.

578
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: It is so good.

579
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 4: I would say Max Studio Fix is better in terms

580
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 4: of durability. You can wear it for longer, but it is.

581
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: A great jupe for it.

582
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got some and I was really impressed with it. Now,

583
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: my loaf of the week is pregnancy sleep. I am

584
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 2: thirty five weeks pregnant at the moment, and sleep is

585
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 2: not easy. I need to get up and go to

586
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: the toilet all the time. When you are pregnant, you

587
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: can't lie on your back or obviously your stomach, and

588
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: I love lying on my stomach, so I'm happy to

589
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: lie on my side. And I saw this hilarious TikTok

590
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 2: that I could not relate to more. It's said that

591
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: when you're pregnant, it feels like you're a hot dog

592
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: on one of those rotation heaters in America where you're

593
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: just going back and forth.

594
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: It is so true.

595
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 4: However, what is making me feel slightly better is TikTok

596
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 4: is telling me that apparently pregnancy sleep is worse than

597
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 4: sleep with a newborn. Oh wow, that might sound delusional.

598
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: Revisit this in a few weeks. I'm a little bit worried,

599
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: but I'm hoping that is true. Do you regret not

600
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 2: buying the pregnancy pillow? Now?

601
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 4: No, I've been pushing through with my squish mellow simon.

602
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: Do you also regret not buying maternity clothes?

603
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: I actually purchased two NBA jumpers from cotton On that

604
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: I will be wearing, no doubt a lot in our

605
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: video is coming up. But yes, Amy, you did tell

606
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 2: me how terrible I looked the other day in my

607
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 2: jumper that I have been thrashing because it's literally more

608
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: your tites that look uncomfortable at this day.

609
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: Fine, I just couldn't stand it.

610
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: I'd need some sort of I'd need maternity jeans and

611
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: a maternity pair of tracksuit pants or pajamas.

612
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: Mark my words.

613
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: You do not want to be wearing jeans when you're

614
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: thirty five weeks pure. Yeah, but if you're going out

615
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: to a rest on or something, yeah, you like you

616
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: just leg suck it up and just put the big uncomfortable.

617
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 4: Once you're pregnant, will see how you feel. My Love

618
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 4: of the Week is also sleep related.

619
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: But it's that I'm such a night owl and I

620
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: just can't switch off at nighttime like a hop into

621
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: bed and I'm just on my phone scrolling.

622
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: It's the worst.

623
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 2: I should put my phone down, and then it just

624
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 2: makes me not feel motivated in the morning and it's

625
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: so cold at the moment.

626
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: It might be a better routine.

627
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: I think you need to put your phone away, maybe

628
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: an hour before you go. I need to lock it away,

629
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: like do people. Some people have like a cabinet that

630
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: they actually physically lock. See the other day, we were

631
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: talking about eating in the shower and my mother in

632
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: law listen to the.

633
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: Episode and she goes to me, how do you actually

634
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: go on your phone in the shower? And I'm like, fuck,

635
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: I forget people.

636
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 4: I know you listen to it and I'm like, oh,

637
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 4: I don't stand under the water.

638
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very easy. Well, my high of the week.

639
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: It's a bit of a mundane one, but basically touching

640
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: on in laws. My in laws have been renovating our

641
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: house at the moment with my partner.

642
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: I need to hire them out, like.

643
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: You guys wanted me to hire them out. They're doing

644
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: the most incredible job. They built a little shelf.

645
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: The other day. They put shelving, well, they put Yeah,

646
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: they put shelving in.

647
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: And I'm so excited because i got my wedding photos

648
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: back this week and my high of the week is

649
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: that I'm going to get them printed and feel like

650
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: I'm in a real adult house.

651
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: Because I've been a shelf.

652
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: Well, yes, I'm gonna put them on shelf, and i

653
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: just feel like I've been in rentals for so many

654
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: years that don't have that personal touch, and now that

655
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: I've lucky enough to have bought my own home, I'm

656
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: just excited to actually put those personal bits in there.

657
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is really exciting.

658
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: My high of the week would be discovering the Osborne's podcast.

659
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: It's so good.

660
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're easily offended, maybe don't listen to it,

661
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: but far out It just took me back to watching

662
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: their show back in two thousand and one, and it's

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Speaker 2: made me want to go and seek it out on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Apparently they are recording at the moment sort of like

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Speaker 2: a goggle Box style show where they do watch it

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Speaker 2: back and if you subscribe I think it's called Osborne

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Speaker 2: Media House, then you were able to see the episodes,

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Speaker 2: but oh my god, they are hilarious together. What sort

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Speaker 2: of It's touted as a comedy podcast. Yeah, Jack Osborne

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Speaker 2: has really grown up, and he and Kelly so their

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Speaker 2: brother and sister. They like even though they've grown up.

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Speaker 2: I love the fact that their sense of humor hasn't changed. Well,

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Speaker 2: I just love how petty they are. Like, remember there

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Speaker 2: was an iconic episode where they had this argument with

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Speaker 2: the neighbors and they threw ham over the phock We're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna say when they were debating whether it was he

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Speaker 4: said stick or dick.

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Speaker 2: No no, because they had Sharon on and she was

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Speaker 2: telling a story about how they had she had this

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Speaker 2: disagreement with this movie company who were coming to film

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Speaker 2: in the Street, and they just sounded exactly the same

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Speaker 2: as they were in two thousand and one, just having

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Speaker 2: these like petty issues with everybody. My low would be

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Speaker 2: just how cold and dark it's now getting And I

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Speaker 2: love to go for a walk after work, but seems

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Speaker 2: to be getting so dark so quickly, and it's really

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Speaker 2: pissing me off because women can't feel safe to walk

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Speaker 2: around in the dark. And I've been having this discussion

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Speaker 2: with my partner and I'm just saying, like, you know,

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Speaker 2: for instance, he can go and jog around the block

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Speaker 2: when it's pitch black, but for me, I would feel

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Speaker 2: so unsafe, and actually where you would be on safety,

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Speaker 2: I would And a friend of ours, Sarah, she put

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Speaker 2: it so well. She said she was trying to explain

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Speaker 2: to her partner how you feel as a woman walking

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Speaker 2: in the dark, and she said, it's like you've taken

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Speaker 2: out all of your all the money in the bank

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Speaker 2: that you own and you're literally out in public walking

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Speaker 2: around with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't think men will ever fully comprehend what it

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Speaker 4: is like.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: That is where we're going to leave things today. If

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Speaker 4: you do want to hear more content from us, we

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Speaker 4: did drop a subscriber episode yesterday with extra influencer topics.

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Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded.

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Speaker 4: On the traditional land of the Ghana people of the

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Speaker 4: Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders past and present,