Speaker 1: Hello.
Speaker 2: I'm Art Simone, a ridiculously talented and gorgeous drag queen.
Speaker 2: Over the years, I've met all walks of life, but
Speaker 2: even I can still be surprised. It turns out some
Speaker 2: of the most ordinary looking people can be concealing surprising professions,
Speaker 2: remarkable hobbies, or downright freaky secrets. Each episode, I'll speak
Speaker 2: with someone who seems ordinary and appears to have an
Speaker 2: average life, but they're concealing something that makes them very unusual.
Speaker 2: And the fun party is well, I don't know what
Speaker 2: they're hiding, and neither will you.
Speaker 1: We get to find out together. Here's how it works.
Speaker 2: I'll meet the guests, find out a little bit about them,
Speaker 2: and then ask three questions. From that, I'm confident I
Speaker 2: can guess what they're concealing from us. Welcome to Concealed
Speaker 2: with Art Simone.
Speaker 1: Time for the guest roll the tame Hi.
Speaker 3: I'm Nat. I'm thirty nine from Melbourne. I'm an artist
Speaker 3: and a teacher. Before that, I was in the corporate
Speaker 3: world for thirteen years. When I'm not at work, I
Speaker 3: love theater, board games and hikings, and I don't think, well,
Speaker 3: guess what I'm hiding because I'm one of the only
Speaker 3: people in the country doing this.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, now, how are you Hi?
Speaker 3: I'm good at I'm doing it.
Speaker 2: Oh, you didn't ask me how I'm doing, but I'm
Speaker 2: doing very well. Thank you as well. I'm jumping the
Speaker 2: gun today. But hello and welcome. It's lovely to meet you.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: You've walked in today with the most exciting pants I've
Speaker 2: ever seen in my life. We have got yellow and
Speaker 2: black hounds shoes. It is and sequin, you look gorgeous.
Speaker 2: You also look like you could be like a seductive
Speaker 2: school teacher, is what you're giving me today, because you've
Speaker 2: got the spectacles on. Your hair is nice, prim and proper,
Speaker 2: en up. That means you can get to business.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to be a sextary.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, a sexytary. I've never heard of that before.
Speaker 2: I need to meet one. I've met one. Here you are,
Speaker 2: and you've got some beatiful, cool jewelry on as well.
Speaker 2: I was staring at it before. You've got the necklace,
Speaker 2: it says IBOCD. Does it have the whole alphabet on
Speaker 2: or does it stop? Now that's a reveal. As you
Speaker 2: turned it says ab cd E f u c k Oh.
Speaker 2: That's a good Why don't they teach that in school?
Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder I would have liked that as
Speaker 2: a nice sing along during kindergarten. A lot of peacings.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing a lot of holes in the ears. So
Speaker 2: you're an artist, okay, a teacher. Oh, he's a teacher.
Speaker 2: See you are a sexy teacher.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: No, wonder I said you look like a sexy teacher
Speaker 2: because I've just listened to you say I'm a teacher.
Speaker 2: The My goodness, sorry, I am blonde today. What were
Speaker 2: you doing in the corporate world?
Speaker 3: I was in insurance and finance.
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: That's what it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's all right. I understand why you left that.
Speaker 2: I could never work in an office.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was not my favorite.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I hate routine, Yeah I can. I barely like waking
Speaker 2: up every day. I just sleep every second day, just
Speaker 2: to mix it up. It's exciting. Okay, Okay, Now, so
Speaker 2: now I know a bit more about you. I've got
Speaker 2: three questions to ask you, and from the answers to
Speaker 2: those three questions and what we've been chatting about, I
Speaker 2: have to try and guess what you are concealing from
Speaker 2: me today. Now, first question I have for you is, oh,
Speaker 2: do you have favorite theatrical production.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm more like that vein of like grue lesque,
Speaker 3: like grungy burls. Okay, I know something to say a
Speaker 3: little bit political. I think that that's more interesting.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, of course I love to walk in and
Speaker 2: just go into fantasy land and be like, yay, happy
Speaker 2: clapping along.
Speaker 3: Look at this happily costumes.
Speaker 2: But I also like to sit an audience said like,
Speaker 2: get a bit uncomfortable. I'm okay being like what did
Speaker 2: I just say?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: It just opened up me? Third eye? Is that exciting? Wow?
Speaker 1: I can see him thirty twenty?
Speaker 2: Okay, And another question for you, what is a relationship
Speaker 2: deal breaker?
Speaker 3: Ah, owning a cat or no? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh no, nat, yeah, oh no, we're not going to
Speaker 2: get along past this point. We just bonded over theater.
Speaker 2: And now what's an issue with the cat.
Speaker 3: We don't have to have a like.
Speaker 1: A yeah, come over, you know you can't come over
Speaker 1: to my house.
Speaker 3: I like cats in other countries, but they shouldn't be
Speaker 3: in this country. They kill all the native worldlide.
Speaker 4: I like cats in other Countries' fine, you know.
Speaker 2: We're about to have a domestic We're about to fight.
Speaker 2: We're about to have a domestic cat right now. Okay,
Speaker 2: god stop it, domestic cat fight that. And before I
Speaker 2: take a guess and reveal what you're hiding, I have
Speaker 2: one third and final question to ask.
Speaker 1: Do you have any nicknames? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So, all through my twenties I was referred to as
Speaker 3: the darkness.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I'm.
Speaker 3: Not really clear on why on my darkness.
Speaker 2: There's two ways when I hear that. There's two things
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of. All right, So either you were just
Speaker 2: like a sad sack that like you'd walk in and
Speaker 2: you'd suck the life out of a room. I'd call
Speaker 2: that the darkness, or you were like walking in with
Speaker 2: the caldron, being like, can I just eat my lunch
Speaker 2: out of my caldron and please please leave me alone?
Speaker 3: Neither neither. This is why I can't put my finger
Speaker 3: on it.
Speaker 2: You don't think there's anything at all as to why
Speaker 2: they called you the darkness.
Speaker 3: I thought I was just a chill, little corporate rock
Speaker 3: climbing and you know.
Speaker 1: Oh, you mean climbing the ladder climbing.
Speaker 3: No, climbing, rock climbing.
Speaker 2: What you do rock climbing as Oh okay, so I
Speaker 2: was like, what they call it now? You know, climbing
Speaker 2: up the corporate ladder is called rock climbing. No, you're
Speaker 2: actually climbing rocks. Yeah, and that's why you're called the darkness.
Speaker 1: You don't picnic it hanging rock, Like what is going on?
Speaker 3: What I'm trying to say is just at that point
Speaker 3: in my life, I feel like I was quite normal
Speaker 3: but apparently not.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you've always stood out a little.
Speaker 2: Bit apparently Okay, So base the information I have absorbed
Speaker 2: from you.
Speaker 1: Okay, the recap.
Speaker 2: You're an artist, you got cool jewelry, I'm getting you know,
Speaker 2: dark things, right, Uki spooky, which I love. I love
Speaker 2: Uky spooky all right, so put that together. Yes, don't
Speaker 2: like cats. See I was going to say you're a witch,
Speaker 2: but witch is like cats, so that's out of the question.
Speaker 1: And they see are a weird witch that doesn't like cats.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: I would to say you are a secret voodoo doctor.
Speaker 2: I put together, all right, I reckon, you're a voodoo doctor.
Speaker 2: I think maybe you discovered while you're in the corporate
Speaker 2: world that you had a gift.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: You know I can't be here anymore because it's time
Speaker 2: for me to be a person who doesn't like cats.
Speaker 3: I'm a taxidermist and I teach the dying arts and
Speaker 3: animal preservation. In this job, I get to work with museums, galleries,
Speaker 3: movie sets, and pet owners and I've been doing this
Speaker 3: for ten years.
Speaker 1: You're ast.
Speaker 2: Oh, so nat isn't a voodoo witch doctor person. She's
Speaker 2: in fact a taxidermist. Maybe my dream of being a
Speaker 2: human dole person that lives around for the entirety of
Speaker 2: the world can actually come true.
Speaker 1: Oh how do I do it? All right, So we
Speaker 1: have just met nad the taxidermist.
Speaker 2: Now you are not, in fact a voodoo witch doctor,
Speaker 2: but you, in fact are in the world of what
Speaker 2: would you call it preserving animals? I mean it's a
Speaker 2: form of preservation in what they looked like.
Speaker 1: Maybe.
Speaker 3: Well, if you're not making crap taxidermy hopefully.
Speaker 1: Okay, so naturally I am, you're probably here.
Speaker 2: I'm very excited because I found this so fascinating and
Speaker 2: I can't wait to find out more. So, first of all,
Speaker 2: how did you get into taxi?
Speaker 3: I came down from Brisbane with my corporate job, and
Speaker 3: I kind of was like, ah, you know, I'm in
Speaker 3: Melbourne and I want to creative outlet, something cool. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, you know, I can't sing or dance
Speaker 3: or draw or what have you, So what am I
Speaker 3: gonna do? And you know, I knew corporate world wasn't fulfilling.
Speaker 3: It started to like go to some shops and they
Speaker 3: sold cool things like a shot amount deer on the
Speaker 3: wall or a cool rug for the floor, or a
Speaker 3: little skull or something like that, and I thought that
Speaker 3: they were beautiful, and in Queensland we didn't really have
Speaker 3: things like that. Queensland's catching up now, but you know
Speaker 3: it's taking a while to evolve in terms of you know,
Speaker 3: different art styles and aesthetic and you know it doesn't
Speaker 3: quite have the same history. So I took a few
Speaker 3: things home and then people would come over and just
Speaker 3: thought it was so horrible and that was so offended,
Speaker 3: and really, like, tell me how offended name were? Yeah,
Speaker 3: they just thought it was dreadful. And I just think,
Speaker 3: like natural history and science and art is like cool,
Speaker 3: Like what are you talking about? And it kind of
Speaker 3: got me thinking, well, I am the darkness. Maybe I
Speaker 3: am a bit werky, maybe I would like to learn
Speaker 3: this and can you learn it? And then I found
Speaker 3: out you hadn't been able to learn it since the
Speaker 3: nineteen seventies in Australia. I meanmember was the last time
Speaker 3: you went to a museum and saw a taxonomy collection
Speaker 3: that had been turned over and looked any good?
Speaker 1: Well? I was just to say that the biggest one
Speaker 1: is it Melbourne gone? Is it gone?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Gone?
Speaker 3: Gone? Yeah? Dreadful because everything kind of got outsourced or
Speaker 3: no one was turning over collections. You couldn't learn here.
Speaker 3: And then I was super interested. I'm like, Okay, this
Speaker 3: is kind of something that's a bit different. You can't
Speaker 3: learn it? How do I get stuck into that? And
Speaker 3: so I think it came from almost me being stubborn
Speaker 3: and being like, oh, maybe it be kitchen cool. If
Speaker 3: you know, a lipstick wearing blonde learns taxiderm, you know
Speaker 3: kind of thing, which is a dumb story in hindsight,
Speaker 3: but that is kind of where it started.
Speaker 2: So then where do you go to learn it? Is
Speaker 2: it like the school of YouTube or I learned how
Speaker 2: to do makeup? Or is it like do you have
Speaker 2: to fly over seas and have someone mentor you.
Speaker 3: There were some people in Australia that are quite prolific,
Speaker 3: so I chose to stalk one of them, sent them
Speaker 3: about two hundred emails of a period of six months,
Speaker 3: and he finally like agreed to like see me. And
Speaker 3: I went out there one day and kind of had
Speaker 3: these little wed shoes on and whatever, and you know,
Speaker 3: you're walking on like the bitumen to get up to
Speaker 3: the warehouse factory. Thing must have looked like a baby giraffe,
Speaker 3: you know, on my yah. You know I'm not and
Speaker 3: he's like, you're not going to last a second. And
Speaker 3: then I worked every weekend they're for free for three years.
Speaker 1: Is that to assist in.
Speaker 3: I'm going to use the term loosely that I was assisting.
Speaker 3: Mainly I was just skinning ducks for the dude, but
Speaker 3: I found.
Speaker 1: Do dead. I was actually a duck factory.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was learning a lot, to be clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, were you still doing corporate at the same time, Yeah, totally,
Speaker 2: the corporate during the week on the weekends skin and ducks.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I'm excellent to that.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: And so I took my long service leave. You know,
Speaker 3: I think most people gone a party I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: going to go to Spain by myself and do taxonomy.
Speaker 3: So I found a mentor over there and he didn't
Speaker 3: speak a word of English and I didn't speak a
Speaker 3: word of Spanish. But he was building a museum on
Speaker 3: the history of hunting. And he let me live with
Speaker 3: his family and we built this museum together. And it
Speaker 3: was such an incredible learning experience because we couldn't even
Speaker 3: speak the same language, but he really wanted to take
Speaker 3: me under his wing and teach me so much. And
Speaker 3: because he wanted to teach me, I was able to
Speaker 3: learn even though we had a language barrier. But kind
Speaker 3: of came back and I'm like, that was such an
Speaker 3: incredible experience. Maybe you don't have to stalk and mental
Speaker 3: and skin ducks for three years and travel to Spain.
Speaker 3: Maybe people would just like to learn from me and
Speaker 3: that'd be a better option, right, And now here we are.
Speaker 1: So do you teach yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: How do you bring animals into like taxidermi? Do you
Speaker 2: only do with like Australia natives or I feel like
Speaker 2: there be a lot of rules and things. You know,
Speaker 2: I can't even fly to Tasmania without a sniffer dog
Speaker 2: being like, get rid of that apple, all right, not
Speaker 2: apple for you.
Speaker 3: It's actually quite easy to bring in skins from overseas,
Speaker 3: like you know, a squirrel or a wolf, doesn't really
Speaker 3: matter as long as it's not protected. They can't in
Speaker 3: as tanned skins they pass quarantine.
Speaker 1: I guess that's technically all it is.
Speaker 3: What leather, you know, it's like a coat.
Speaker 2: I guess we look at the because when you do
Speaker 2: a good job, it looks like the entire animal is
Speaker 2: in front of you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're just dealing with this skin exactly.
Speaker 3: So taxonomy means the arrangement of skin. So taxi is
Speaker 3: a range and dermy's skin. Yeah. Like And interestingly, we
Speaker 3: can mainly only work on introduced species because all native
Speaker 3: specimens are protected. Hence why I hate cats. So we
Speaker 3: can work on things like your fox. We can work
Speaker 3: on a feral cat. Yes, we can work on pigs whatever,
Speaker 3: not a problem. And so this is the thing. So
Speaker 3: with natives, they're fully protected. And the reason for that
Speaker 3: is because you know, the introduction of species is created,
Speaker 3: you know, such a terrible landscape where we've got species
Speaker 3: going extinct and what have you. If you were then
Speaker 3: to let people preserve specimens. They could say, well it
Speaker 3: naturally died or I found it as roadkill, but then
Speaker 3: they're out shooting it, right, and so in order to
Speaker 3: work on native specimen, and you have to have permits.
Speaker 3: So if you have a cockatoo that's your pet, yes,
Speaker 3: you have a license for it. If it passes away,
Speaker 3: you pass it to my license. I do the work,
Speaker 3: I pass it back to your license for you to
Speaker 3: then display it in your own home.
Speaker 1: So does that mean you have like a taxidermy license.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to do a police check and
Speaker 3: all sorts of stuff in order to get your second.
Speaker 2: Away, like the people in suits being So we'll just
Speaker 2: make them do a police check just in case. You know,
Speaker 2: we've all seen the movie. What do you think is
Speaker 2: the most common animal you have? It's just you say taxidermy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a bit of a long word. We've got to
Speaker 2: work on that. Actually, let's send them stuffed. Stuffed even
Speaker 2: better than guy, what's the most common animal you've stuffed?
Speaker 3: Look, now that we do the pet work, heaps of cats.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, did you say pet work? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, in my household, we're a cat house, and I
Speaker 2: heard yes, our oldest scales.
Speaker 1: She's thirteen, she's she's doing she's nearly ready.
Speaker 2: And we have said for years that we were like,
Speaker 2: is that even legal?
Speaker 1: We're like, I don't know, but we'd love to get
Speaker 1: it because she's so fluffy, she's so.
Speaker 2: Fluffy and she's such a good girl. We're like, would
Speaker 2: be great just to have her always sitting on the couch.
Speaker 2: Is that is that actually like legal? You can just
Speaker 2: hand you more people.
Speaker 1: Need to know about this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but crazy cat ladies unite or my cat ladies
Speaker 2: out there, we found the solution.
Speaker 1: Sorry, yes, but let me.
Speaker 3: So just to quantify that, I don't actually do tax
Speaker 3: it to me on cats and dogs, and what I
Speaker 3: mean by that is I don't do full skin mounts.
Speaker 3: So I'm sorry you can't have your fluffy cat back
Speaker 3: to pat because I feel like you're either two types
Speaker 3: of people. You're either super pragmatic and you're like, wouldn't it.
Speaker 4: Be cooled I have my fluffy cat back and that'd
Speaker 4: be great, or you're like, I'm so deeply traumatized that
Speaker 4: I cannot part with my pet that I am having
Speaker 4: trouble letting go and I want my pet back.
Speaker 3: I feel like with pet taxonomy because the skin goes
Speaker 3: back on, it needs to look like your cat, not
Speaker 3: our cat, your cat. And there's something about taxonomy where
Speaker 3: you can't quite capture the personality of something. And so
Speaker 3: we'll happily do skull preservation or poor preservation cremation, but
Speaker 3: I will not do your dog or cat for fear
Speaker 3: of re traumatizing.
Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say, if you don't get
Speaker 2: it exactly right, then you've butchered my life. Right, So
Speaker 2: I guess your work can be quite polarizing. You know,
Speaker 2: you were saying earlier that people would come around to
Speaker 2: your place and be like, I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: Have you faced much pushback from people that don't quite
Speaker 2: gel with what you're doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. The first time I experiences was after I
Speaker 3: started teaching, and then I guess because I kind of
Speaker 3: thought it was like a kitchen cute to be teaching,
Speaker 3: you know, lipstick wearing, blonde kind of thing. So did
Speaker 3: the media. And the first kind of media I got
Speaker 3: was MX magazine. You know, the commuter, like the commuter,
Speaker 3: which is really bad for me because I'm in corporate world.
Speaker 3: So everyone in corporate world would get emes and read
Speaker 3: on the train.
Speaker 2: And were you still in the corporate world. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was a bit of a transitional.
Speaker 3: Seven years of transit. Wow, okay, okay, And this is
Speaker 3: how everyone kind of found out that I did this.
Speaker 3: And so from that first article is when I started
Speaker 3: getting hates and death threats. And I remember the first
Speaker 3: one from that EMES article. A guy went on there
Speaker 3: and he said, I would never wish death upon anyone,
Speaker 3: but Natalie, when you die, I hope it's as painful
Speaker 3: as possible. And so over time I've gotten more and
Speaker 3: more and more obviously yes, and I was like super upset,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, this is devastating and it's not
Speaker 3: fun being kitchen cute, and I need to like figure
Speaker 3: out really quickly what I stand for because this isn't
Speaker 3: like fun. And I guess that's why I've become like
Speaker 3: quite you know, interested in protecting native wildlife and things
Speaker 3: like that. But then also I would kind of once
Speaker 3: I started getting over the hurt and the upset, I'd
Speaker 3: be like, who are these people? Like are these vegetarians
Speaker 3: or are these vegans? Or who are they? And I'd
Speaker 3: gone to their profile and it'd be like a western
Speaker 3: metropolitan person you know, and their profile picture would be
Speaker 3: them eating a pie or like wearing leather, and I'd
Speaker 3: be like, what are you talking about? Like you're literally
Speaker 3: eating meat. And I never have had this funnily enough
Speaker 3: from vegetarians or vegans, because lots of our students are
Speaker 3: eating plants.
Speaker 1: I think you're going out there and shooting there. No,
Speaker 1: not at all.
Speaker 3: I'm studying animals for a living, like I love animals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry about that, but at least we can
Speaker 2: bond over that because the amount of shit that I've
Speaker 2: had sent to me. I once had to replace Santa
Speaker 2: Claus because they're like, that's just having fun. No, Santa
Speaker 2: Claus going up and down Chapel Street this year, a
Speaker 2: drag queen and a convertible doing all I want for Christmas?
Speaker 1: Is you fun?
Speaker 3: Right? How did that go?
Speaker 1: Not very well?
Speaker 2: I ruined Christmas many times? So the kids the sand
Speaker 2: is not real. But anyway, okay, Nat. So you're talented,
Speaker 2: you know, because you can stuff animals, you can preserve
Speaker 2: skulls and things. Oh who's that artist that I see
Speaker 2: that does the thing where they make them look translucent
Speaker 2: and transparent?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: I bought you one as a gift that I made.
Speaker 2: A get stuff is a little fishy yeah, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: you have just handed me what.
Speaker 1: Is this called.
Speaker 3: It's called diaphonization.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love it so much. So that
Speaker 2: has just handed me a little jar with a fish
Speaker 2: in it. And the fish is in liquid. But it's
Speaker 2: like see through and purple, and I can see its
Speaker 2: eyeball and I can see organs. Oh my goodness, it's
Speaker 2: looking at me with its hairy eyeball. It's quite nice
Speaker 2: at the moment. Hello, fish in a bottle that sounds
Speaker 2: like a good song. Fish in a bottle. Fish in
Speaker 2: a bottle.
Speaker 1: So that's still called taxiderm diaphonization.
Speaker 3: So taxidom is just anything with skin on it.
Speaker 2: So what would you call yourself as like an umbrella
Speaker 2: term as a profession.
Speaker 3: Then you'd have to say, I do animal preservation. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: but then I haven't just been doing animals lately.
Speaker 2: Well I'm sorry, what you haven't just been doing animals?
Speaker 1: Tell me more so.
Speaker 3: I have had a few interesting clients lately, some people
Speaker 3: that have just given birth, that have a placenta, so
Speaker 3: they've wanted their placenta preserved. I got a I got
Speaker 3: a message last night saying, oh, I hope it's not weird,
Speaker 3: but I had my finger amputated. Can you do something?
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, totally, I can do something for me.
Speaker 1: Wait do they have their finger?
Speaker 3: Well, it depends on the hospital because.
Speaker 1: Because I feel like the hospital sometimes wouldn't allow you to.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So some like dentists won't giving you wisdom to
Speaker 3: you know, but there it is actually legal. The hospital
Speaker 3: just has to do the work. So the best client
Speaker 3: I had, and I think my favorite work that I've
Speaker 3: done recently, was a client who came to me who
Speaker 3: is transgender and had just had a hysterectomy.
Speaker 1: As part of their gender reformation.
Speaker 3: Gender reformation surgery, and they wanted their uterus preserved to
Speaker 3: remind them of, I guess, you know, the life that
Speaker 3: they want lived. Yes, and so that was really amazing work.
Speaker 3: And it was really interesting as well because when the
Speaker 3: hospital released all the tissue of the uterus. To me,
Speaker 3: what happens when someone goes through that process is that
Speaker 3: you obviously take a lot of hormones, and hormones can
Speaker 3: speed up the possibility of cancer. And so when the
Speaker 3: uterus comes out, it gets biopsy to within an inch
Speaker 3: of its life to ensure that the person that it
Speaker 3: came from doesn't have cancer. And so the uterus came
Speaker 3: to me within like thirty pieces, and I had to
Speaker 3: sew it together and recreate it. And that was really
Speaker 3: that was my favorite work I've ever done, because I
Speaker 3: felt that that was so important and I never imagined
Speaker 3: that I would be doing something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy, Yeah, because you know, skins is one thing,
Speaker 2: but now you're working on internal organs. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I knew you're a witch doctor on you.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I hate death, yeah, you know, I was scared of
Speaker 2: it for so long. Most scary thing in the world
Speaker 2: to me is death. I can't come to terms of
Speaker 2: the fact that just like one day done over. But
Speaker 2: because of that, I feel like everyone around me, you know,
Speaker 2: they'd be quite sad if I disappeared. So I reckon
Speaker 2: it'd be great to have a bit of me preserved.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, what would you give me?
Speaker 1: I mean have many exciting things, like my feet.
Speaker 2: They're really messed up, and I think they'd be really
Speaker 2: good to study because high heels for this long or
Speaker 2: men or men not good. Only two toenails left. But
Speaker 2: that's all very exciting, very comamorates.
Speaker 3: It's good for me either.
Speaker 2: I can teach the people about what not to do
Speaker 2: one thing about me.
Speaker 1: But then also, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I'm thinking, well, you know, I've got giant manhands,
Speaker 2: and I've always thought look really funny with nails on
Speaker 2: them because they've been sweeping things. And I think maybe
Speaker 2: I'd give you a big giant man hand, but this
Speaker 2: with the middle finger up.
Speaker 1: I think could you preserve it like that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think that would be a great legacy to send
Speaker 2: on down to the world like a big FuG you
Speaker 2: to the world.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, challenge accepted.
Speaker 1: Here on record, I gift to you my hand.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna need quite a big job.
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Speaker 2: but in fact a taxidermist who loves to get stuffed.
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