1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: After a big weekend. It was a hard act to 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: watch married at first last site last night. I wanted 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: to go to bed early, but I was up because 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: it was commitment ceremony last night. 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 3: You know, we spoke to John Aikin last week and 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 3: I said, it doesn't seem right to me in this 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 3: world where we're very concerned about coercion and bullying, that 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 3: someone can say they want to go from a toxic 10 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: relationship and if the other person says stay, they have 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 3: to stay. But last night those rules changed, didn't. 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: They In the case of Melissa and Josh. Melissa said 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: she would stay and Josh said he wanted to leave. 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: So John said, no, that's it. Josh has had enough. 15 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: He's going to leave this. He's going to get out 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: of the experiment. And it seemed intimacy was the problem. 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: And usually in a marriage it's the man that complains 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: about the lack of intimacy. But we saw a reversal 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: of roles and Josh's manhood being questioned. Did you question 20 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: his manhood? 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: When did I question your manhood? What did I say 22 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: about your. 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 3: Man You said repeatedly, I need a man. 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: I came here to meet a man. Oh yeah, I 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: have said that. 26 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: So is Josh not man enough for you? 27 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: I just feel like he's not a big like man. 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't feel protected by Josh, and I feel like 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm protecting him and I feel no protection or love 30 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: or support or anything from him. And it's not something 31 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm used to. I'm used to a man. Just you know, 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: I want a manly man. 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, it needs just a talk. 34 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: Then the chaps had a discussion as to what actually 35 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: makes a manly man. 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 4: I reckon one of the most frustrating things is when 37 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 4: somebody says you're not a man, Like, what is a man? 38 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: A man is someone who can really talk about their 39 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: emotions and get deep and like be vulnerable. That's a man. 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 4: What a man is and is when it just wants 41 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 4: to chop it up and not talk about anything. That's 42 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 4: like to me, that's not a man. 43 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: So just not when you're chopping up your onions. 44 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 3: There, interesting, isn't it? Because I often thought this with 45 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: this show, is that women say they want a man 46 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: who's vulnerable and caring and sensitive, and when it comes 47 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 3: down to it, they still want to The women want 48 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: to be vulnerable and be rescued by a strong man. 49 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 3: What do modern women want? 50 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: Well, then Melissa herself had this to say about interepect 51 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: so too. 52 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: I've got to say Intimacy night during Intimacy Week, it 53 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: was just sex. It was just a transaction, Like I 54 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: didn't feel like it was a genuine thing. It wasn't 55 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: how I imagined to have an amazing sex life with someone. 56 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: It was just physical and that was quite awful. 57 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 3: Crikey. This show is so weird where you evaluate other 58 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: people's appearance and now you evaluate how you feel they 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: are in bed. It's so strange. And that kind of 60 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: broke him though, didn't it. Josh, Yeah, he broke very 61 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: hard to hear someone say that about yourself. 62 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: And I feel, in the case of Melissa, I feel 63 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: that you know a lot of that TV stuff that happens. 64 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: If you're not used to being on TV, it can 65 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: really blindside you as how you appear. 66 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 4: Well. 67 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 3: She has said these words, but is that the context 68 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: she was saying them. Who knows. We'll find out next 69 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: because we're going to talk to Melissa