1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation. The next guest is Well. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: He's a comic genius, a TV regular behind some of 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 2: our favorite shows. He's also the host of Have Been 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Paying Attention But the Cheap Seats. He's part of Working 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: Dog bringing some of Australia's favorite films and productions. We're 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: talking about Tom Gleisner and he never likes to sit still. 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: He's written a new musical called Bloom that had an 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: incredible run in Melbourne and now it's coming to Sydney. 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Tom High, lovely to see you. It's great to see you, 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: got to have you in the studio. It's a big deal. 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: And on a birthday date. 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: While it is indeed, I haven't got a gift. 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: I've got a gift boucher have you? Does that count? 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: It's certainly if it's a b WS. Isn't a handwritten 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: gift to Tom. 16 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 3: It's yet to be purchased, but it's an aspirational thing. 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: Come on your way. 18 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I appreciate it. Talking about getting older. 19 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: Tell us about Bloom because I know that there's an 20 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: age element in this. 21 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: Yes it is. In fact, it's a musical set almost 22 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: entirely in an aged care home. And that will come 23 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: as a little surprise to you that I've spent a 24 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: few bit of time in that world over recent years, 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: not quite as a resident yet, but parents, parents and 26 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: parents in law, so a lot of visits, and over 27 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: a lot of time, I've sort of come to get 28 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: to know that world and meet the fascinating people that inhabited, 29 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: both both residents and the cares. And residents we tend 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 3: to sort of walk past them and we're guilty of 31 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: looking at people who maybe don't have that much to say, 32 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: and they're parked in front of an Andre Reu DVD 33 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: playing on loop and you go, that's that's just not right. 34 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 3: And yeah, it was as so as I say, it's 35 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 3: a world that I've been familiar with that I read 36 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: this story about a nursing home in the Netherlands that 37 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: were offering free accommodation to students if they were willing 38 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: to come in and work as cares, and I thought, 39 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: that's the idea for something, And as it turned out, 40 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: it's a musical called Bloom. 41 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: I really was taken by this sentence one of the 42 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: media press release for Bloom. Too often, when older characters 43 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: appear in the script, they're trivialized or worse, treated as 44 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: punchlines to someone else's joke. This was something else determined 45 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 2: to avoid in writing Bloom. Our residents are very every 46 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 2: bit as real, funny and floored as a younger staff. 47 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: You take care of them, and I think this is 48 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: the last ageism. We no longer tolerate sexism, racism, but agism. 49 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: People just feel they can go for it. 50 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it is exactly, it's it's the last pastion. So 51 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 3: the actors that play the residents in Bloom are very 52 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: much as much part of the story as the younger performers, 53 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: and it's fantastic having genuinely older people. I was determined 54 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: that I didn't want someone who's fifty putting on a 55 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: gray wig and pretending to be ancient. So we've got 56 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: We've got beforeman saying John Waters. 57 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: For brilliant love him. 58 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: I think he's definitely north of seventy. And so they're 59 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 3: actually maybe not quite in they're in that band where 60 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: you could theoretically be going into care. So yeah, it's 61 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 3: been really really exciting to see to bring younger performers 62 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: and older on stage. It look, it's a it's a 63 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: it's a funny show beautiful music Lane is with ramps. 64 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: But it's a great idea that that could work in 65 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 4: the like in real life everyone's talking about the high 66 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: housing affordability. You get young people to move into an 67 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 4: old folks home and like, you know, just keep them company. 68 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: And you know, you don't have to wash bums or anything. 69 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: You just like, you know, unless you choice of your own. 70 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 4: And that's if you're there for the bum washing, but 71 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 4: just to get the company, because I find I spent 72 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 4: a lot of time. I took up sailing with these 73 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: old blokes and the only thing older than the boat 74 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: is the guys on the butt, And you'd be you 75 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 4: spent a lot of time when there was one guy, George, 76 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: and he one day we're just talking to us, and 77 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: it's that like that time I rode from Perth to 78 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: Sydney and on a motor bike goes no want to 79 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: push by? And did you have a backup crew? Did 80 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: you No? I just went with my mate. We rode 81 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: from Perth to Sydney. I went what you had no 82 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 4: backup crew? You went across a nuther board plane? Did 83 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: you tell anyone not? 84 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: Nah? That's that age group. They're not boasters. We are 85 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: if we do it, even the mildest of the chief 86 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: about I'll get a t shirt. 87 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: Mate, there's a tattoo. 88 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: And first, we. 89 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: Have cares in our house now with Harley's health and 90 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: they're not there all the time. But I've got a 91 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: photo of both of us when we were younger, particularly Harley, 92 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: so that you think he is who he is. Don't 93 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: judge the person you see. 94 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 3: That just because they maybe don't say much doesn't mean that. 95 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: They're not ticking over and have under the contribute. 96 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's exactly what we wanted to capture 97 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 3: with zoom. 98 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: And will you be saying this to Sam Pang? When 99 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: have you been paying attention? 100 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: He hasn't you? 101 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: About your your age ages? And Sam ages in Sam? 102 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: I think Sam was the very first person I told 103 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: that I was writing a musical is probably you know, 104 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: a decade ago. And then of course the follow up 105 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 3: was out and it's set in an age home. Of 106 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: course I opened my ritually. 107 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 4: I'm sure, Well, Tom, it's great. 108 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see coming into the studio. 109 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: You can check this out at the Sydney The Sydney 110 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 4: Premier of stc Rosalind's packet theater check out Bloom Tommy. Guys, 111 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 4: you know it's always great to catch up with you. 112 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: Lovely to see you, Nice to see you.