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Speaker 1: It's the Will and Woody podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this happened.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: They say never meet your heroes. I agree with that.

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Speaker 4: I agree with that, but I would add to that,

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Speaker 4: never meet your heroes who specialize at philosophy when you're

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Speaker 4: blindfolded beforehand and you have no idea that you're about

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Speaker 4: to meet them, because then you don't ever even to

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Speaker 4: ask them about.

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Speaker 5: Right, And that feels like it's coming from a real place.

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Speaker 5: Because well, that happened today. I did that to you, did.

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Speaker 2: So would you have preferred?

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Speaker 5: Like, honestly, though, would you have preferred more time to

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Speaker 5: prep because I feel it would have made you more nervous.

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Speaker 4: Look, it's probably in one of those half way houses

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Speaker 4: where I would have either would have loved a couple

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Speaker 4: him once, and I'm probably only going to ever get

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Speaker 4: the chance to ask him questions once.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, you never know. You go bonded a bit

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Speaker 5: over zoom. Yeah, I thought you guys were close to

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Speaker 5: exchanging numbers.

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Speaker 2: You get alongside of.

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Speaker 4: All The other option is yeah, yeah, yeah, like yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, having one of those moments where it's a

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Speaker 2: I probably would.

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Speaker 4: I mean, in hindsight, no, I would have preferredwo or

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Speaker 4: three days. I don't know why I'm trying to offend.

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Speaker 2: You fair enough.

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Speaker 5: Is that the most is that the most nervous you've

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Speaker 5: been before me? Somebody more nervous when you met Kevin Parker,

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Speaker 5: the lead singer of tam And Parlor.

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Speaker 2: Where you now, I'm going to try.

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Speaker 5: And repeat it, but we'll got so excited that when

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Speaker 5: he saw Kevin Parker from Tayman Parlor, he said.

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Speaker 2: Like the woman from home alone.

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Speaker 4: Yea, yeah, yeah, I was back in the time when

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Speaker 4: I was I used to smoke. Would you feel that

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't do it, wouldn't do it? All disgusting. So your

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, they were much higher. And yeah, I

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Speaker 4: was in a music mistal when I was rolling. I

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Speaker 4: was rolling a cigarette and he walked past me, and

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Speaker 4: laughed and left anyway. No, No, I'm probably more nervous for Sam. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I like Jennifer Lopez. We've interviewed prime ministers of all

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Speaker 4: like this was, yeah, this is my everest, Like this

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're hear it in the chat, but like

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Speaker 4: It really was very corny the way that I said it,

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Speaker 4: But he genuinely did change the way that I think

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Speaker 2: For somebody else to put a new spin on that

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Speaker 4: A you know, you might meet an idol who you

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Speaker 4: who you like one of their songs. This was like you,

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Speaker 4: you changed my life. So the sense of admiration that

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Speaker 5: You'll actually hear a small bit of the chat in

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Speaker 5: this podcast, but if you want to hear more of

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Speaker 5: Will doting and obsessing, I was just doting, wasn't? And

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Speaker 5: do you want to hear more of that too, Sam's face,

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Speaker 5: then we are going to release an extended chat, the

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Speaker 5: whole chat with Sam Merritt. I think at one point

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Speaker 5: you do hear the drool come out of your mouth,

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Speaker 2: There a lot of panting. There's a lot of panting,

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Speaker 2: heavy panting, a lot of panting. Yeah yeah, and yeah.

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Speaker 4: I've cut up the chat actually with commentary for the

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Speaker 2: Which was actually a lot of fun and also like

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Speaker 4: That's going to be on the Will and Woody podcast version,

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Speaker 4: but will definitely be on the Shame Mood podcast.

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Speaker 2: Wear yeah pants, Sam Harris.

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Speaker 5: You can hang your hat on that maybe on that pantsing.

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Speaker 5: I've never pensed anyone. I look forward to the day

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Speaker 2: Anyway. I know, panting for me is a panting for

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Speaker 2: you baby. You know, thank you. I appreciate it. With

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Speaker 2: that and I'll wear that. Run enjoy the podcast?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, who's along?

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Speaker 2: And where is Bumboddy?

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Speaker 5: Doesn't care?

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Speaker 3: What care?

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Speaker 4: Listen? Listen, listen two days until Share my Mood launchers

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Speaker 4: and every chemist warehouse in the country. The mental health

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Speaker 4: that we've been working on to try and help people

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Speaker 4: communicate in other ways other than talking about their mental health.

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Speaker 2: That's what the journey has been about. Woods.

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Speaker 4: But once again in the lead up to the launch,

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Speaker 4: I am once again blindfolded because you're the head of marketing.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, my friend business.

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Speaker 4: Let's get down.

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Speaker 2: Let's get down first marketing. So let's get down.

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Speaker 5: Let's get down to burst down Woodies, weak of marketing madness. First,

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Speaker 5: the madness rolls on, and my goodness, gracious to me,

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Speaker 5: have I got an amazing surprise for you to market

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Speaker 5: all the things I've done. Yeah, this is going to

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Speaker 4: All the things you've done, do you mean that including

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Speaker 5: Will on the phone, I have neuro signed Sam Harris.

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Speaker 5: Now here's the thing, though, that negativity that you're throwing

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Speaker 5: Sam Harris, because the head of sales at this station

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Speaker 5: is also called Sam Harris. Now, there are two phone

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Speaker 2: No offense to Sam Harris, the head of sales by

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Speaker 2: the way, lovely guy, lovely guy. Yeah, yeah, oh that's

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Speaker 5: You can either choose Sam Harris one or Sam Harris Too.

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Speaker 2: How do I know they're both? Not just Sam Harris

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Speaker 5: I promise you, I swear on my life. Can I

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Speaker 2: How do I pick? Just just luck?

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Speaker 5: Just say Sam Harris one. Oh no, that's not fair,

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Speaker 5: Sam Harris too, Sam Harris one, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Well I can't believe you from sales, mate.

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Speaker 5: I am blowing away away Sam, You're a champion. And then, no, listen,

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Speaker 7: Client meeting and swear you've done a great job.

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Speaker 2: So I'm about to leave now fair.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I can do a best seller as well.

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Speaker 2: I don't know WHI talking about that in the car.

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Speaker 2: I really do other Sam Harris. I really love him.

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Speaker 2: Let what he can run the show. He's got this.

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Speaker 7: Come with me now, seriously, you can go.

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Speaker 2: I don't go and do some sales stuff.

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Speaker 5: No, no, look, thank you Sam for coming on the

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Speaker 5: right now. You have got one of your favorite people.

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Speaker 2: Like that wasn't just that wasn't just like it wasn't

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Speaker 5: Now you're actually you've got one song to prepare what

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Speaker 2: Let's go to a song.

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Speaker 5: You can run the app pasted him, you can ask

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Speaker 2: Holy shit, wild, Let's got to a song.

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Speaker 5: Wow, You've got Sam Harrit's up NeXT's going to be

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Speaker 5: so boring for all you guys suffer in your jocks.

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Speaker 4: Nothing better, Nothing better than meeting the person you respect

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Speaker 4: most and having no prep for the interview with him.

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Speaker 5: Well, I didn't really think about that, but that's what

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Speaker 5: I've organized. Someone you worship is a man called Sam Harris.

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Speaker 5: And if you don't believe me, how much Will worships

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Speaker 5: this guy? This was you during the song.

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Speaker 2: Really he's actually on Zoom. Oh wow, wow, wow wow.

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Speaker 2: You don't know what to say to him.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, he he he changed my relationship with myself.

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Speaker 2: That's embarrassing, very embarrassing. And he didn't hear that. Well

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Speaker 2: he's gonna hear you now, so it's even better. Anyway,

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Speaker 5: And then we've got your hero, Sam Harris of Zoom

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Speaker 5: on the other side.

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Speaker 1: As you really have just heard. Our next is some Harris.

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Speaker 2: I know, not the some Harris from sales.

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Speaker 1: Author, neural sciences, philosopher and podcast extraw and hair.

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Speaker 2: To say Will's a big fun would be.

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Speaker 1: In on a misstatement and quite frankly, I need to

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Speaker 1: be quiet so we can get on with this chat.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to the show. Some Harris.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, good, thank you, Hey Sam, how's it going?

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Speaker 6: Happy to be here?

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I don't really know what to start. I'm yeah,

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Speaker 2: my name is Will.

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Speaker 4: About seven or eight years ago, you, I was very depressed,

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Speaker 4: And at the moment, couldn't be a better time stalt

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Speaker 5: Is the hesitancy why we are so slow at vaccinating

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Speaker 7: very well at all because it's not the normal, well

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Speaker 7: oiled system. And one of the reasons for hesitancy is convenience.

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Speaker 7: People hear stories are a foind up by GP and

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Speaker 7: I can't get an appointment up another one. You hear

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Speaker 7: all these stories. It's much easier know than it was.

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Speaker 7: But convenience is one reason why people say, oh, well,

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Speaker 7: should I be bothered rather than worrying running?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can we talk about that there? Should we be bothered?

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Speaker 4: Question Norman? Why should people be bothered to get vaccinated?

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Speaker 4: And this is an argument that I have with lots

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Speaker 4: of people. This is that we will live in these

448
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Speaker 4: very weird let's call it a bubble in Australia where

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Speaker 4: we used to live in this COVID free lifestyle, which

450
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Speaker 4: isn't the same anywhere else on the planet apart from

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Speaker 4: I'm sure Antarctica and the North Pole have.

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Speaker 2: Got a bit of a claim to a COVID free

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Speaker 2: lifetime as well now.

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Speaker 4: But we live in this bubble which I think is

455
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Speaker 4: sort of really toying with our relationship with the virus,

456
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Speaker 4: and I think a lot of people seem to well,

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Speaker 4: it's human nature, it's out of sight, it's out of mind.

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Speaker 4: But the reality is that we've never eradicated a virus

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Speaker 4: from the planet since small Parks.

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Speaker 2: This thing's going to be around.

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Speaker 4: It's going to get into Australia at some stage, and

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Speaker 4: we can't continue to live in the place that we

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Speaker 4: have been living. There's going to be a moment when

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Speaker 4: it does, when the damn wall breaks and.

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Speaker 2: It is in the community.

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Speaker 4: Can you please explain to us the importance of getting

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Speaker 4: vaccinated so that we're ready for that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, the importance is probably I don't have to

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Speaker 7: explains the Victorian portance explains other states more of the Victorians.

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Speaker 7: But the reasons are one, you get yourself protected so

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Speaker 7: you stop being anxious about yourself and your family. Two.

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Speaker 7: If the virus gets in, then the more people who

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Speaker 7: are vaccinated, the more we are against serious brands, particularly

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Speaker 7: if we cover the aged people and so on. But

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Speaker 7: younger people spread this virus, so they don't necessarily get

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Speaker 7: very sick. Although plenty of people in India and the

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Speaker 7: United States and elsewhere in their twenties and thirties and

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Speaker 7: forties have died by the way. So you protect yourself,

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Speaker 7: you protect the community, and you allow us to open up.

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Speaker 7: And at some point we will open up. And you're right.

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Speaker 7: When we do open up, the virus will get.

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Speaker 2: Into the It's going to be here, It's going to

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Speaker 2: be I mean.

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Speaker 7: My view is set a date, so you know, thirty

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Speaker 7: first of January we're opening up and watch the cues

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Speaker 7: forum around the world.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well, I think that's what it was finally

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Speaker 4: saying in Melbourne is the fact, you know, it's obviously

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Speaker 4: annoying and tragic. The virus is here in a lot

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Speaker 4: of ways that you know, starting to get more causes

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Speaker 4: of it. That's the kick out the ass that a

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Speaker 4: lot of people needed to be like, shit, maybe it

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Speaker 4: can get in.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there are at no point in sitting in the fence.

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Speaker 7: Most Australians are not anti vaxxers. They're not people who

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Speaker 7: are conspiracy theory apathetic.

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Speaker 2: We're anti effort than a nutshell for Australia. Dr Norman Swie, mate,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: You can listen to more of dodtr Swan's podcast Corona

500
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Speaker 4: Cast wherever you get. Your podcast is incredibly informative, insightful

501
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Speaker 4: and been a real roadmap for me, I know, for

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Speaker 4: all this. So Dr Norman, thank you so much for

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Speaker 4: joining us. Mate, it's been a pleasure to talk to

504
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Speaker 4: you and all the info I hope to everybody out

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Speaker 4: there right now is get the vaccine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as soon as you can. Thanks, Doctor Norman. It's

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Speaker 2: been a pleasure.

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Speaker 8: Mate.

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Speaker 1: It's the Will and Woody Podcast.

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Speaker 5: Willand Woodies.

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Speaker 3: Fine.

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Speaker 5: Hello, people are calling us third one O six y

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Speaker 5: five and trying to convince us that they are in

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Speaker 5: the car with someone else. We've got a guest, Will

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Speaker 5: as someone else. Actually there are they putting on a voice?

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Speaker 5: Let's go to Taylor here.

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Speaker 2: Hey Taylor, Hey, Will and Woody. Who are you in

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Speaker 2: the car with Taylor?

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Speaker 3: I'm in the car with my girlfriend, Alex.

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Speaker 2: Your girlfriend Alex? How old Alex? Tell us a bit

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Speaker 2: about Alex.

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Speaker 3: She's twenty five, she's a nurse and I'm twenty two

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Speaker 3: and arm as sparky.

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Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, Okay, can you shack? Is it Alex?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Ali Shaq Alex on the phone, please hello, good Alex.

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Speaker 8: Jeez, what are you.

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Speaker 2: Two girls up?

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Speaker 3: To this afternoon, just on our way into Richmond.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. And what are you doing there?

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Speaker 6: I'm getting a tattoo.

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, nice? And why is Taylor going with you?

533
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Speaker 1: Moral support?

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Speaker 2: There's two people. There's two people, Taylor and Alex. We

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Speaker 2: think you are two real people. Yes, we are sounded.

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Speaker 4: It sounded similar trap for young players tat place. Go

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Speaker 4: to Natalie, Natalie, who you in the car with them?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: Good? Mat Who are you in the car with them?

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Speaker 3: I'm in the car with my sister in law, Monique, Monique.

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Speaker 2: Okay, put Monique on the phone.

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Speaker 3: Please, Okay, Money, They want to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, I'm ane heading and now said that, what

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Speaker 2: are you guys up to this afternoon?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just heading up to Bondar Junction. Our children

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Speaker 3: are mad about PEXI ses, so are we going there

550
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Speaker 3: to bar them?

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Speaker 2: It's a great vie. But Natalie, you're in the Caroline, Oh.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it was a great rise for It's the women

553
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Speaker 9: Woody Podcast question for everyone thirty one O six five

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Speaker 9: A Ratty Legs come on on a guy.

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Speaker 2: Like actually that much of a turnoff? That's my question?

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Speaker 5: By Ratty Legs are you just saying proportionately skinny legs

557
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Speaker 5: or just skinny legs.

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Speaker 4: No, like just legs that just look a bit ratty.

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Speaker 4: You know what what what makes mine bit skanky? You

560
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Speaker 4: know the calf is a bit high. I do have

561
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Speaker 4: a high you got a bit of a high cap.

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Speaker 4: And I was talking to you about this the other

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Speaker 4: I came up and as you've got rad legs, bro.

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Speaker 4: For a guy who's as fit as you are, your

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Speaker 4: calves are a bit ratty. Ratty calves.

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Speaker 5: You've crossed the one rat legs over there. You know

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Speaker 5: I wear a long sock to try and conceal as

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Speaker 5: much leg as possible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got ratty legs. There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: I've been out with you on particularly windy nights and

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Speaker 4: you know your legs have nearly been taken out from

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Speaker 4: under you by the stiff breeze.

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Speaker 2: That you've got ratty legs. Bro.

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Speaker 4: Look, we're talking about this the other day on the

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Speaker 4: air waves, and then all of a sudden, a day later,

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Speaker 4: no longer than a day later, a photo of this guy.

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Speaker 2: Chris Hamsworth for himself.

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Speaker 4: If you guys haven't seen the photo, The first thing

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Speaker 4: you need to notice in the photo is that his

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Speaker 4: deltoid is the size of Ularu. And then but then

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Speaker 4: from there, he is getting pasted online for the fact

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Speaker 4: that he's got these ratty legs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very skinny leg A couple of stocking stuffed with.

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Speaker 4: You know, like when you used to make puppets when

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Speaker 4: you were a kid, used to start stockings.

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Speaker 2: That's what it looks like. Stop stocking stuff with cotton wool.

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Speaker 2: That's what it looks like that his legs look.

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Speaker 4: I mean again, he's a victim of the fact that

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Speaker 4: his torso is basically just South America in that shape

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe how big his top hat is in

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Speaker 2: enilmous at the top there, but then it kind of

593
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Speaker 2: just falls away. Oh yeah, you know. And I've heard

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Speaker 2: he's on crutches on the set just to support the

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Speaker 2: inversion of what that's going on there.

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Speaker 4: But look, here's what I want to know, because because

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Speaker 4: here's the thing, he's getting pasted online for having these

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Speaker 4: rat legs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, mostly from blokes though, yes, and I was saying, oh,

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Speaker 5: don't skip leg day, bro, you know that that sort

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Speaker 5: of gear.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And this is what I want to focus on

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Speaker 4: because I feel like a bloke having rat legs, or

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Speaker 4: as guys say, oh you scoop luc dough bro. I

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Speaker 4: feel like that is banter between guys. Well, let's say

606
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Speaker 4: heterosexual guys. Here's a question I want for everyone else.

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Speaker 4: Thirty one and six or five, like, are ratty legs?

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Speaker 4: Are having disproportionately not muscular, you know, scabby, disheveled, you know,

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Speaker 4: wouldn't piss on if.

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Speaker 2: They were on fire legs? They're all lovely terms. If

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Speaker 2: you have those legs, is that actually a turn off?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Or do you just as a because I mean, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna be honest, I've never done a leg down in

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Speaker 4: my life. I mean, you know, the embarrassing thing is

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Speaker 4: I try really hard to get my rat legs going,

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Speaker 4: but nothing can be done.

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Speaker 2: But I've lived my.

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Speaker 4: Whole life thinking that my like the way that my

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Speaker 4: leg is my leg definition as a bloke she'd have

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Speaker 4: has no bearing on whether or not a woman finds

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Speaker 4: me attractive. Now I could be totally wrong there. Thirty

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Speaker 4: one or six files a phone number. Phone lines are open, guys,

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Speaker 4: I'd love to hear you.

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Speaker 2: Let's settle this. Our rat legs actually that unattractive? Maybe

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Speaker 2: your girlfriend mim should call woods she said before she

627
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Speaker 2: likes my legs, did she? She's lying, isn't she?

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Speaker 4: Ah? Come on, yeah, it's well and muddy here on

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Speaker 4: your Wednesday afternoon Woodrow.

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Speaker 2: You've got rat legs. I mean, there's no other way

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Speaker 2: to talk about it. Not good for myself esteem.

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Speaker 4: I was trying to think about a metaphor which to

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Speaker 4: best described your legs. And you know, like those steel

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Speaker 4: filters that you put in your plug in your kitchen sink, yes,

635
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Speaker 4: sink protectors. Yeah, yeah, you know when you go to

636
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Speaker 4: clean that and you pull it out and there's been

637
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Speaker 4: a bit of spaghetti that's just hung there.

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Speaker 2: That's your legs.

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Speaker 4: And the reason I'm talking about it is because Chris

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Speaker 4: Hemsworth also has sticky spaghetti plug legs.

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Speaker 2: We just found out. We sent a photo of him

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Speaker 2: as Thor walking around with his kid, I mean his kids.

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Speaker 4: Kid's embarrassed. I mean, it's always got great deltoys. But

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Speaker 4: you could literally fit three of his legs into his deltoids.

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Speaker 4: And he's getting pasted online for having these rodent style

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Speaker 4: sand true legs. And so right now we're just asking

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Speaker 4: the question because it's guys that are pasting him, so, well,

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Speaker 4: did you skip leg day?

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Speaker 2: Bro? Like, I've got rat legs as well. Don't worry,

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Speaker 2: we both do. Neither of us. Why don't putting the

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Speaker 2: effort into my legs? So it's a bit easier for

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Speaker 2: me to say, but we told that.

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Speaker 5: We asked the team today. They said conclusively that I

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Speaker 5: had much worse legs than you, which was devastating to hear.

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Speaker 4: Let's but let's find out whether or not this is

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Speaker 4: actually a thing, because I've lived my whole life with

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Speaker 4: the belief that women or other guys that are attracted

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Speaker 4: to guys don't take into the account, into account the legs.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Jenny here. Jenny, talk to us rat legs.

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00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: What do you think about them?

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Speaker 3: First of all, I want to say hi, and I

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00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: love that.

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Speaker 8: I'm happy.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for calling Jen. Now let's get down into Woody

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Speaker 2: his guinea pig legs.

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Speaker 3: To be honest, I love guinea pig legs. Yes, it

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00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, But to be honest, I also really like

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Speaker 3: muscley legs. But my boyfriend's got him, and I'm just like, look,

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Speaker 3: you skip leg They're a bit lazy, but I like

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Speaker 3: rat legs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Great to hear hear, hear. I think bo Ryan's joined

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Speaker 2: us tomorrow. Rat legs, rat legs. He's got ready legs,

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Speaker 2: and wawnhas down he doesn't basic can hide, though he

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Speaker 2: loses a lot of size when he wags us down

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Speaker 2: there as ready as they come. Let's go to Tracy Trace.

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Speaker 2: You're not a fan of the rat leg.

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Speaker 3: No, and hi guys, great to talk to you. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I actually don't call them rat legs. I actually call

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Speaker 3: them chicken legs. And that's something I've always found it very,

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Speaker 3: very unsuitable to view basically, although in saying that, Chris Himsworth,

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Speaker 3: on the different hand, is always very suitable to you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is he knocked down a peg or because I mean,

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Speaker 4: and there are chicken legs obviously, but I think rat

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Speaker 4: legs are a step down from from the chicken legs.

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Speaker 4: Do you think I mean its Hemsworth tarnished at all

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Speaker 4: by the fact that he's got those ratty legs?

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Speaker 3: I don't think, Chris.

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Speaker 2: What about Woody? What about Woody though?

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Speaker 3: Oh well he's in a different legs Yeah, yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, no, fair enough, that's totally fair. This is

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Speaker 2: great for my confidence. Bernie here, Bernie, what are your

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Speaker 2: thoughts rat legs.

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Speaker 6: Is it an initial, well, legs, I don't really care

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Speaker 6: about it.

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Speaker 3: So the attitude and the vibes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, I like that, Bernie, look for the personality.

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Speaker 4: Don't worry about the rat legs.

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Speaker 5: Bernie.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna move on that. Because nobody wanted to hear that.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Karen here, I wanted to hear that.

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Speaker 4: Actually, mate, I feel like you just because you've got

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Speaker 4: legs that are like those stringy bits that come off

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Speaker 4: bananas that you throw in the bin.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Karen. Karen, take us home. We're talking

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Speaker 2: about rat legs. You're not into them, No.

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Speaker 5: I am.

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Speaker 8: It's like the legs shouldn't really count your going out

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Speaker 8: with a whole person personality how they makes you feel.

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Speaker 8: I've actually told my partner he's got feminine legs, and.

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Speaker 5: We don't want to hear that. We don't want to

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Speaker 5: hear that I put on heels for the first time.

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Speaker 5: What and were sorry? But I do put on heels occasionally.

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Speaker 5: Any woman that sees me is like a jealous of

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Speaker 5: my legs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, you don't want to great in drag

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Speaker 4: though you're a beautiful woman.

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Speaker 7: I know, I know.

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Speaker 2: I am, but I don't want to be. There's a

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Speaker 2: reluctance there, yeah, okay, reluctance when you're in drag, though,

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Speaker 2: I become the character that's very real for me. It's

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Speaker 2: very real for me. A method, baby, I see what

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Speaker 2: you're hearing.

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