WEBVTT - It's cool to be kind - Uncut with Kath Koschel 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.320 Hey guys, and I'll welcome back to another episode of 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:25.880 Life Uncut. I'm Brittany, I'm Laura, and currently I'm sitting 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:29.120 on BRIT's floor on a rug and I've just found 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:31.560 a screw. There you go, britt, Well, actually I don't 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:33.400 know where that came from, but that looks dangerous. It 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:35.960 was it's just here next to us on the floor. 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:38.159 But you know what's concerning is that has obviously come 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.720 out of something. So is there something in my house 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:42.720 that is about to topple over because now it has 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:44.920 no screw? Probably, And I just think that this is 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:46.880 another reel. I we can say a screw in the coffin. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.040 We just need to get a studio. We need to 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.600 stop recording on the ground. Hey, actually this is a 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.840 great natural segue, Laura. I did put out a story 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.680 not like longing, on my Instagram that was, hey, guys, 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.200 is anyone a real estate agent in East slide into 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.800 my damnse I have a question Brittany using her influence 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:05.800 for good. I can't get a bloody rental. I thought 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.000 I'll put a call out. I am really really wanting 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.959 to get a dog. Everyone knows it. It's I'm obsessed 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:13.880 with it. But I can't have a dog in my apartment. 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.640 My landlord continues to say no, even though like, I'm 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.560 the cleanest person. Irrelevant. Why does your landlord hate you 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:21.160 so much? She hates me? I don't know. I hope 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.279 she actually listened to lafe On. I think she actually 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.640 likes me. She's really nice, but she's just dead adamant 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.600 that I'm not allowed a dog and I cannot find 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.720 a rental that allows a dog because I need two 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:32.479 big bedrooms. I need to make one for a studio 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:33.679 for Life on Cut, and I need it to be 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.600 dog friendly, and apparently that means you pay twenty five 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.640 thousand dollars a week anywhere in the East, and there's 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.440 like one option. So if anyone is I've had a 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.720 few people like I have had a few people slide 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.720 using the podcast to do a call out for accommodation 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:51.280 and housing for yourself. That's exactly what I'm read. If 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:55.720 anyone's a real estate agent, I hope I can't helping me. Actually, 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:57.600 at the moment that I just met down at the 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.480 local pasta shop, she ran into me. She's like, Hey, 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.200 I'm a real age and I'll help you but if 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.560 anyone knows of anything, maybe it's a private rent tool 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.720 that will allow a dog. I can vouch for myself, 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.880 Laura can vouch for me. I'm a great tenant. I 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:11.280 am sure. I'm shut after two years of us creating 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.440 this podcast community, this is what you're using them for. 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:18.799 I need housing, I need actually something funny. Happy. This morning, 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.080 early this morning in Sydney, it's raining. If you're not 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.000 from Sydney, it has been raining here for days. It's 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.040 going to be continue to rain for the next week. Anyway, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:27.680 I wake up really early and I was like, I've 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.000 got to get out. I'm going to go for a walk. 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.400 So I rolled out of bed. I haven't brushed my 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:33.120 hair in a couple of days. Don't want to, you know, 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:34.919 it's not nothing to brag about, but I haven't brushed 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:36.400 in a couple of days. I rolled out of bed 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.000 and I went for a walk in the rain at 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.079 about six thirty seven am. And I saw this girl 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.880 in my peripheral sort of like running beside me, like 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:45.960 she did a double take, and she ended up coming 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.639 up to me after following me for like twenty meters, 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.040 and she's like, excuse me, and I was like yeah, 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:55.120 and she said I could be way off track and 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:58.400 I'm not actually sure, but do you have a podcast? 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.720 And I said and I was like, yeah, I do. 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.080 That's me Chrus. She said I love your podcast. But 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:06.520 I was like, okay, but you didn't know it was me. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.079 You can't love jimud. She's like, I love your podcast. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.320 She's like, I just didn't really recognize you. And I 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.480 was like, nope, that's because like catfishy all, this is 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.079 what I look like when I roll out of bed 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:16.480 in the morning and I'm in the rain. And she 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.040 was like, oh no, it's not that, and I was like, 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.720 it is. Let's not lie. This is what it is. Anyway, 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.160 thank you to that person that pointed out that I 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:24.959 don't look like my Instagram at six day in the 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.120 morning in the rain, and thank you for saying you 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.200 love the podcast. But that was my morning, Laura. What 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.520 have you been up to? We just got back from 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:36.640 Byron yesterday. I saw that in the Daily Rain there 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:38.080 was a lot going on. Do you know what there was? 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.680 Actually there was COVID cases at the hotel that we 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.480 stayed at. So we got home and then we found 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.720 out when we landed that there had been COVID cases 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.280 at Elements. The hotel was great, we had a great time, 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.720 but there was two cases and so we had to 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:52.840 get off the plane and go straight to getting a 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:56.680 COVID test, which, you know what, guys rest assured got 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:58.360 the results, but I was like, you're in my house 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.520 right now, have you got your result? No, the results 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.160 this morning. Of course we are negative. It seems like 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:04.880 everything has gone back to normal. But then there was 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:06.920 this weird little reminder that COVID is still out there. 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.120 So that was a kind of anticlimactic way to finish 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.720 the holiday. Well, speaking about Byron, you have some exciting 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.120 news to share or that has been shared for you. 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:19.680 We weren't going to share this. I wasn't going to 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.320 mention this, but Daily Mail wrote an article about it, 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.440 so you know what, It's always nice when your news 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.120 gets taken. It's like when you've got something really exciting 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.240 to tell and your friend or someone just takes it 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:30.680 from you and they're like, oh, we already know you 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:32.919 tell them. You're like yeah, session and Stuch told us yes. Cool. 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:34.960 You're like I'm having a baby and your Mum's like, oh, 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.400 I already know. Your sister told me, you're like, great, yeah, 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:41.320 co that's awesome. So we bought a house just maybe 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.599 about half an hour outside of Byron. I thought you 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.760 were going to say half an hour ago. Half an 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:48.960 hour outside of Byron. We bought a house during COVID, 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.000 maybe about three or four months ago. We hadn't been 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.360 able to see it. We bought it over zoom Inspections. 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.880 Matt and I have been looking for the better part 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.479 of this entire year, and we found the place that 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.920 we fell in love with, and we weren't going to 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:03.840 share the news we were going to keep because we're 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.280 not moving there straight away, and because we hadn't seen 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.960 the house and we're not moving there until like maybe 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.240 the end of next year. Brittany and I have some 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.600 big podcast planned. Looking at Laura when she's like, hey, 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.160 I bought a house, I was like, congrats, talk me 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.000 through it. When are you moving? So the whole purpose 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.680 of us going on this trip to Buyron was we 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:23.520 went there to go and see the house. So it 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.440 wasn't really a holiday. It was more like, hey, congratulations, 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.200 you have a very big mortgage and you'll be in 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.359 debt for forever, yes, sucker. And we went out to 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.520 the property and we got to see it, and then 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.839 we got back to the hotel that we were staying 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:39.080 at and we got this text message from somebody who 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.240 works in media who was like, Hey, Laura and Matt, 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.080 I'd just love to get a statement from you guys 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:45.960 about the house that you've just bought. We just saw 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.080 some beautiful photos of you standing in front of the 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:51.159 Fasoult sign. You're like, excuse me. Obviously it's big news 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.040 and we're super excited about it, but it was your 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.480 ner news and you don't have to share anything. Yeah, 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:59.160 And I guess like we're also very acutely aware that 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.520 it's a fucking time in the world, you know, like 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.080 it's a weird time to be buying houses, it's a 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.839 weird time to be changing things. Like we weren't able 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.080 to see it. It was a huge risk for us, 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.800 and there's been a lot of anxiety around buying our 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.280 first home, and so we just wanted to keep it private, 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.920 and we also wanted to make sure that we had 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:19.840 the privacy for our kids, like that was the plan 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:21.520 and the long term when we're living there, we kind 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.400 of didn't want people to know where we lived, which 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.840 is absolutely fair and then anyway, we get sent these 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.520 photos from the Daily Mail, love them, as you guys know. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:35.600 And there was a pap hiding in a car, a paparazzi. Yes, 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.040 I'm pretty sure everybody knows what a path is. There 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.640 was a paparazzi hiding in a car across the street 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.240 taking photos of us in front of the new house. 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.640 And we had no idea that they were there. We 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.520 honestly felt like we had no idea the whole time. 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:51.840 We were probably there for about an hour and a 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.599 half and somebody was hiding in a car taking photos 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.520 of us and our kids, and I just it was 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.719 probably the first time since, like you know, the year 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.400 after Batch ended, that I felt so violated and I 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:08.200 felt so like intruded upon our privacy that there was 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.640 just some dude lurking in a car taking photos of 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.120 us and our children. Well, the thing is, it's one 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.720 thing for a paparatti to take photos of you without 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.320 knowing whether you're on a walk or you're whatever. That's 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.280 one thing, but it's another thing to have your kids 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.560 involved and to share basically a location of where you're 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:27.000 gonna live, where your kid's gonna live. There has to. 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.200 I just can't believe there are laws against this. I 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.920 actually am gobsmacked that they care they allowed to put 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.520 that information out. Yeah, I told Britt because like Britt 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.440 sent me the news article. She was like, well, good, 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:40.160 good job keeping that downloading, guys. And I spent all 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.440 of that day in tears because I just it wasn't 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.480 the way that we wanted the news to get out. 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.080 And also, like one who cares that we bought a house? 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:47.240 Do you know? 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.880 I mean like we care? We care? I care, I'm excited, 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:54.880 I don't care, but Jacon, I'm so ba. Anyway, guys, 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:56.600 that is it. That was the exciting news that we 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:58.800 had from going up to Byron for this holiday, and 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:03.600 I'm one step closer to having my commune full of children. Well, congratulations, 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.280 and I hope you keep a little dirt patch out 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:06.600 the back for me to come and pitch my tent 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.720 and join the commune down the track. Okay, but you 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:13.720 have to wear clothes. One hundred wearing clothes naked time. 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.040 It's just be hearing me. It's got so weird real quick. Anyway, 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.040 enough about what we've just been up to this last week. 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:21.480 Now it's time for us to tell you what this 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.280 episode is about. And honestly, guys, I think that this 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.600 is my favorite episode. This is my favorite interview that 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.320 we have ever done. We do say that a lot 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:32.800 were getting best no I agree, but ever, I think 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.920 as we're going we're getting more people that were like 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.400 just obsessed with and more people that really hit home. 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.120 Because I have had so many interviews I think you 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.199 have too where we're like, this is our favorite ever episode. 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.240 But guys, this one is truly is one of the 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:49.640 most I guess, touching and powerful episodes. And Kath, who 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.200 Laura's going to tell you about in a minute. Kath 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.000 is just the most inspiring woman I have met in 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.040 as long as I can remember. Honestly, when we were 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:58.679 so her name is Kath Kosher. When we were interviewing Kath, 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.319 we Brittain I I both were in tears. We were 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.400 both laughing. She is the founder of something called the 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.600 Kindness Factory. Now we're going to get into what that 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:09.679 is exactly a little bit further along, but a bit 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:13.160 of information about who Kathy is. She was an elite athlete, 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.319 and she broke her back two separate times and has 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.280 had to teach herself how to walk three times. Her 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.200 story is harrowing, but it is also equally as beautiful, 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:26.160 and she talks about how the power of stranger's kindness 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.560 is what has really gotten her through. She also talks 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:32.800 about the loss of her partner and just what she 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.480 has had to go through in order to recover from this. 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.440 But truly, the main take home from this and the 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.160 part of this story that is so incredibly powerful, is 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.520 the conversation around small acts of kindness and Kindness Day 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.720 is coming up. It is on the thirteenth of November, 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.600 which is this Saturday, which is World Kindness Day, World 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.679 Kindness Day, and so we just wanted to, in celebration 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.720 of well Kindness Day, bring you this episode and honestly, 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:57.920 like we said, if there's ever one that you listen to, 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.880 please make it this because it is just so special. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.440 She truly is incredible, and she speaks about the fact 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:10.199 that through all this adversity, through years of tragic, horrific 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:15.800 accidents and situations, relearning to walk, surviving grief, the thing 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:19.199 that kept her going and what literally helped her survive 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.520 was tiny acts of kindness and that's where this stems from. 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.320 And she does go into that, and she gets into 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.079 some specifics and I'm sure you're gonna cry like we cried. 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.680 You almost can't help it. There is absolutely no human 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.680 that can listen to Cath's speak and not be affected. Yeah, 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:34.360 and I think the big take home around this is 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.760 not just about kindness, but this idea of gratitude and being, 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.000 you know, like for somebody who's been through so much 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:43.040 in her life, Cath still has so much gratitude for 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.840 the life that she's lived. There are some very big, 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.160 big topics that we touch on in this episode. We 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.360 do touch on suicide. So if that's something that is 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.560 affecting you, or if this is something that you know 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.360 is too troubling for you to listen to, please maybe 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:58.960 come back to this episode at another time. But overall, 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.320 this is a truly uplifting conversations So I just hope 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:04.040 for so many of you that you get something really, 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.439 really wonderful out of it. Before we get into the 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.439 episode with Kat, we do have a couple of things 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.400 we want to talk about now Christmas is coming. This 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:14.760 is one hundred thousand percent not an advertisement, but Goop. 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.160 You know how much we love Goop. Goop is Gwyneth 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:20.760 Paltrow's I guess it's her online company. It's her website 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.839 where she advertises the weird and the wonderful of the world. 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.520 She gives you gift ideas, she gives you her favorite items, 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:29.160 and I'm not kidding. It brings me the most hilarity 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.280 and entertainment of any other website in the world. And 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.040 it's not supposed to it's not. It's the thing. This 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.480 is not a satirical website, but it turns out maybe 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.960 it is in disguise. Well, she's released a Christmas list. 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.480 She does it every year, twenty twenty one Christmas List. 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.640 There's gift ideas and there are some real bangers on there. 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.960 So Laura, I wanted to know what would you purchase 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:48.720 from this list? Like you've had a look at the list? 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.400 Is there anything on this list that you would actually purchase? 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.800 This is like the Goop Christmas List. We talk about 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.720 it every year. It's the gift that keeps on giving, 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:57.840 or it's the gift that truly gives nothing, because I 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.360 don't think anybody can afford anything that's on there. Well, no, 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.360 usually people can afford like a candle, a vagina candle 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.240 or something like that. But even that, the vagina candle's 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.640 quite expensive. Yeah, and you might remember last year there 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.680 was a candle which was like the vagina scented candle, 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.280 which truly wasn't it smelled like flowers. 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:12.800 I mean, my. 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:17.120 Vagina doesn't smell apparently, Gwyneth Paltrows vagina smells like flowers. 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.640 This year there is a candle which is an orgasm 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.680 candle smells like an orgasm, which is one hundred dollars. Well, 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.200 what does your orgasm smell like one hundred dollars? In 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.720 a while, you're like, I forget would it smell like 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.840 one hundred dollars because it costs The orgasm cannle costs 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.480 one hundred dollars, Like, I'm not paying people to make. 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.120 I am tempted to purchase the orgasm candle purely for 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.360 research for market research. I want to know what orgasm 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.640 smells like because I think, I mean, like, sex has 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.120 a smell, but I couldn't put my finger on it. 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:46.800 It's like sweating is in a bedroom that has no 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:48.679 fresh air? Like what is what does sex and an 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.200 orgasm smell like? I know what your orgasm smell like? 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.360 Smells like coconut oil because that's what you use. Smells 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:59.480 like tennis. My Look, I want to just quickly go 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.120 through a few things on the list that I think 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:06.200 are absolutely ridiculous. Now, I don't like Gwenneth Poultry very much, 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.880 and I don't know if it's purely because of her 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:12.000 ridiculous recommendations that every year I like a little bit less. 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.320 But she has advertised a jungle gym for your children. Look, 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.600 that's a bit of a controversial and a big sweeping 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.680 statement for someone you don't like. She's a bit it's unrelatable, 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:23.360 might be the world. Well, I mean like, no, not 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.040 that I don't hate her, but she's not in any aspect. 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:27.320 I don't love her as an actress. I don't love 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.920 her recommendations that like, I just she's not my cup 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.600 of tea. She's recommended a jungle gym for your kiddos 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:34.480 if you need to go and purchase something for them 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:38.800 this Christmas. The only catch is it's gold plated and 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.280 it costs you fifty two thousand dollars. Wouldn't it be 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.200 nice to have that much money? Though? Who who is 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.880 buying that? Who is buying that fifty thousand dollars jungle? 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:47.040 Now? 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.520 I'm looking at this jungle gym. It has two monkey 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:55.400 bar rings. That's it, just the two one ladder, one swing, 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.439 and one slide that looks about two point two feet. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.880 That's it. I'm sorry, but I definitely want to know 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.000 besides the Kardashians, who is buying this jungle gym. So 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:06.760 I like that. The thing that upsets you the most 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.040 is how limiting it is. You like, there's only two 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.160 rings and one slide. Well, I would think for fifty 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:16.960 thousand dollars four in minimum. The other one that I 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:18.719 had a really big problem with. I don't want to 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:20.280 say a problem. I don't have a problem with it, 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:21.360 but I'm never going to buy it, and I think 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:25.640 it's ridiculous. Is a snow sled like a toboggan? Like 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:29.400 it's it's a circular sled, it's toboggan in style. It's black. 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:33.040 If it's one person and it has the Chanelle symbol 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.400 on it, it's a Chanel toboggan. Now what would you 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:39.160 pay for a Chanel round, circular, one person toboggan? Is 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.400 it a child toboggan or an adult toboggan? I can't 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:46.440 be sure. I think it's interchangeable. I can't afford anything 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:50.120 from Chanell because I have a borgage. Now I can't 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:54.560 afford anything ever. Again, I'm gonna say two thousand dollars 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:58.920 fourteen thousand dollars, fourteen thousand. Now I'm looking at this. 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.080 I have used one of these many a time, but 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:03.840 I just use It's a bodyboard that I got from 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.480 Big w It was twenty five dollars. Bodyboard does just 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:08.680 the trick the same thing as this fourteen thousand dollars 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.200 Chanel Toboggan does. You're taking a bodyboard to the snow. 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.200 It's like it's a snow to box. So I used 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:14.400 to go down there. We used to have these really 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.800 big grass hills in Port McQuay. Anyone from Port McQuary 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.360 will know what we're talking about, and we used to 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.480 get used to run up really fast when I had 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.240 been raining slightly and on your bodyboard and you would 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.360 like scoot down the grass hill. Amazing. I'm from Woollongong 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.600 and we just used to use cardboard boxes. The couple 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.560 boxes get wet. The very last one I want to 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.800 check in is extremely affordable. It's eighteen dollars, except it's 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.960 not affordable when you hear about what it actually is. 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.040 So you got to remember this is a wellness site. 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.560 It's all around taking better care of your health, you know, 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:44.920 spending lots of money to make your skin beautiful, make 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:46.680 your vagina smell good, and make it, yeah, make your 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.720 house smell like an orgasm. This is eighteen dollars eighty 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.360 for Leopard printed rolling papers so that you can smoke 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:57.080 your Ciggy's in style on the wellness side. The thing 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.480 that bothers me, I know I said before that something 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.920 bothers me about Gwyneth Paltrow. I think the thing that 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:06.000 bothers me the most is that I asked Jordan when 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.000 we met. We just had that one conversation where you're like, 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:13.160 who's your hall pass? His fucking hall pass is Gwyneth Paltrow. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:17.200 Now it makes sense, so Britty, you're just jealous. No, 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:21.520 I've never liked her, and I've never liked her, and 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:23.640 I'm and now I probably like her, but I don't 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:25.880 get it. I'm like Gwyneth Paltrow and he was like, yeah, 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.000 I mean his other one is Sharon Stone. I'm like, okay, 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.200 you've got a thing for older women obviously, which is 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.600 probably why this relationship works Sharon Stone and Gwyneth Paltrow. 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.880 They are his hall passes, so I don't get it. 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.880 I don't know what he's seeing. But he can go 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.120 and buy vagina candle from Gwyneth Pultrow if he wants. 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:46.400 Have you ever though, received or given a present for Christmas? 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.320 I guess not just Christmas, maybe birthdays whatever, something that 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:50.920 could have been on this list, or something that you've 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.480 opened and just been like, what the actual fuck? So 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.800 I was thinking about this. There's nothing that really jumped out. 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.240 But I did get given and this was very recently, 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.760 which is why came to mind. I did get given 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:05.800 a box of extremely expensive champagne as a present from 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.080 a friend, and I opened it up weeks after she 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.680 had given it to me, and there was a empty 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.239 packet you know, the oral bee tooth whitening strips. It was. 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.320 There was an empty oral bee teeth whitening strips inside 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.760 like she'd already used. I'm pretty sure it was like 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.920 an old bottle of champagne that she had been given 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:25.960 that was sitting in the cupboard like it was in 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.480 the box, and it had fallen down the side slap 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:30.439 of the box. And when I opened, it was just 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.040 half an empty oral be I mean, maybe she just 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:35.800 thought you wanted a drink and you needed to whiten 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:36.200 your teeth. 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:36.640 Who knows. 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.600 No, there were no teeth whitening strips in there. It 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.080 was just the packet. It was just the rubbish of 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.679 the teeth whitening strips inside wedge down next to the 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.320 expensive bottle of sit. We don't know that. I'm not 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.879 opposed to a regift. I am not. I found it 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:51.879 in my path. If you guys listened to my story 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:55.160 last Christmas, I had a Kris Kringle, like a twenty 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:58.480 dollars present that's supposed to be anonymous. I had to 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.159 give it. I had to someone in my family. Was 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.000 my family Christmas present. Someone in my family messaged me 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.159 and said, I forgot Actually I'm just going to call 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:07.920 her out. It was my sister, Sherry Shery. She forgot 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.680 to get her Chris Kringle a present. Right, She's like, 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:11.760 I forgot to get my person's present. I left it 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.720 at home. Can you bring me something? So I was like, 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:16.560 just about to leave to this Christmas party. So I'm 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.360 looking around my house and I saw some lip bosses 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.400 that I had been gifted. I was like, well, that's 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:22.760 going to have to do because I'm not going to 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:24.119 the store right now. I've got to be at this 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.840 Christmas party in twenty minutes. I grabbed these lip glosses, 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:28.760 put them in a bag that someone else had already 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:30.840 given me, gave them to my sister to give to 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.960 the for the Chris Kringle. Long story short, I didn't 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.199 look properly and when the person opened the present, they 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.119 were like, Brittany, is this from you? And I was like, no, 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.679 what do you mean because it's anonymous. I gave her 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.040 a lip gloss that had my name embroidered in it. 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.359 I said, like for Brittany. Basically, she was like, I 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:47.959 know this was you. It's got your name, and I 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.280 nearly fucking died. I was like, I've never been more embarrassed. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.080 About twenty five people are looking at me being like 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.760 you little stinge. I was like. I looked at Sheridan 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:57.119 and I was like, you better dig me out of 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:58.960 this hole right now. But she said nothing, So I've 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:00.879 just added her on the podcast. Anyway. I want to 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.480 know who, Like, for everyone listening to this, I want 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.000 to know the shittiest present you've ever been given. We're 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.640 gonna do a little segment on an upcoming episode coming 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.439 into Christmas, getting into that festive spirit. I want to know, 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.639 what is the worst thing you have ever been given 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:15.280 as a present? 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:17.840 No more. 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:24.520 One thing he just t my ex boyfriend from when 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:28.440 I was like twenty one years old. I'll never forget. 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.520 He's like, this is the worst Christmas present I've ever gotten. 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.800 I gave him a box of it was like a 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:37.040 hot stone massage kid, but I gave it to him 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:40.879 so he could massage me with the hotstones. He's like, 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.680 this is officially the worst present I've ever had. 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:45.159 I was like, shut up and rub me. 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.919 Let's get into some accidentally unfiltered. I have an absolute 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.880 cracker for you guys today. It's disgusting, it's funny. It's 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.800 all the things a good accidentally unfiltered should be. You 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:59.400 know how every couple has weird things that they do 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.120 with each other, and if anyone else saw or found out, 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.800 they'd probably think, well, that's fucked up. Well something I'm doing. 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:09.159 To my point, we all, okay, I am not judging 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.720 this because I think we all have that one thing 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:15.080 that's a bit fucking weird. But you know, we just 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.760 don't tell anyone about it. Anyway, these people are cooked 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.000 and they've got a weird thing, all right. Well, something 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.800 I do to my boyfriend is that anytime if we're 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.480 just chilling, or maybe if we're watching TV or we're cooking, 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.280 and I get a rush of wetness, you know, like 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:30.320 as in I feel a little bit horny and I'm 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:32.880 a bit wet down there, I'll put my finger down 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:34.960 there and then I'll just rub it on him, just 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:39.800 to show him what's happening. Sometimes it impresses him, sometimes 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.640 it excites him. Sometimes he's like, oh, not now, which 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.680 is totally valid. Anyway, this morning, we were laying in bed, 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:48.400 chatting and cuddling when all of a sudden, I felt 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.840 a trickle of wetness. So I put my finger down 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:54.159 there and smeared it on his arm. Unfortunately, when I 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.480 looked up at his arm, I realized that it wasn't 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.359 me being wet, and it was blood. My eyes shot 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.159 open and I couldn't stop gasping and laughing in the 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:05.879 utter horror. I was speechless. I rubbed my period blood 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:10.879 my boyfriend. He's so rank. Did the boyfriend knows her sleep? 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:11.639 He knew. 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.400 I was just watching and she's like, I can never 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.800 come back from there. It's so ranked and I think 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:18.360 you need to stop wiping your period and you come 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:22.720 on your boyfriend he's in bed. Okay, I have a question. 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:25.159 Is it called come if it's your like female, like, 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:27.560 if you've got a bit of discharge, is it called come? Yeah, 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.879 it's still come? Really Yes, I didn't know this. Yeah, well, 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:32.800 I mean I think so. I think that's what people 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:36.800 would refer to it as. Really yeah, okay, I discharge 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:40.000 doesn't have the same sexy room to it. I'm discharging. 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:43.480 Oh I'm discharging, you know, like I feel like, oh yeah, 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.520 I guess the girl I'm coming. Yeah, okay, I'm glad 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.080 that we unpacked that. I'm glad that I had to 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:52.960 give you an example. Well, I'm like, I'm coming is 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.560 like I'm orgasming. I don't mean as in like I'm 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:56.320 getting wet. 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:56.600 Yeah. 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.480 I think people would still use the word come. I 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:02.040 could be there'd be people that wouldn't, but I would. 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:04.360 I still associate, And it's probably a more technical term, 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:05.960 of course there is. It is discharged. 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:06.480 That's what it is. 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:09.639 But I'm never gonna say, oh feel my discharge Like 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.200 that term is never coming out of my mouth. Also 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.520 would never say like my wetness either film how Moistno, 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.199 I hate that word. All right, give me if you're 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:22.919 an accidently unfiltered or if you got a confessional I 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:26.120 haven't accidentally unfiltered that it's pretty innocent, but it's very 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:28.199 fucking money. I feel like after that one, we probably 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:29.919 need to be way better than you're, like, way more 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:35.040 inpercent than yours. It's way better. It's way more innocent, Hey, chicks. 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:38.199 This ties into the great standing while wiping debate of 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:40.640 twenty twenty one. I was at work in the cubicle 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.960 closest to the window. Now, the window is outside the 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:47.440 cubicle door, but it's ceiling height. It's very very big, 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:50.440 and we work on a very high floor, so there's 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:52.639 actually no chance of anyone being able to see in. 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:55.920 So I was mid stand up wipe, because well, I'm 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.959 a standard. When I see something in my periphery, I 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:02.199 turn my head and I see the fucking window cleaner 0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:04.920 hanging from the top of the building. He's come straight 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:07.680 past the bathroom window and he's made direct eye contact 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.400 with me over the cubicle door. As I am armed 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:13.879 deep midwipe standing. I'm like a deery headlights as they 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.480 slowly wash the windows around me. It hasn't put me 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.640 off stand up wiping, but I definitely don't go into 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:23.480 the side cubicle anymore. How humiliating. Imagine the window cleaner 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:25.479 because he can't we probably can't get away fast enough, 0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:29.280 so he's swung down eye contact while she's wiping herself, 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:32.960 mid wee, mid stand on his around ankles, like I 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:35.520 just can't imagine that feeling of like what do we 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:37.560 do right now? Do I look away? Do you look away? 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:39.280 And he just kept cleaning the window. He was just 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:43.040 like wax on wax off. I think I think that 0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:46.600 there's an added element of humiliation when you're a stand 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:49.479 up wiper, Like if you're sitting wiping, I think that 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:52.320 that's less humiliating than standing up and making eye contact 0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:54.720 at the same time. One hundred percent. I think you 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:56.159 need to learn to sit down. I feel like this 0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:58.480 has been a really educational start of this episode. Do 0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:00.320 you know what before we get into the chat we cath, 0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:02.280 we just have a quick call out that we want 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:05.159 to This is usk asking you for your help, for 0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.639 your love for your dedication to the podcast. We do 0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:10.800 do this once a year. You guys might remember that 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:14.240 last year the Podcast Awards came out and we asked 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:16.720 you to go and vote for the Listener's Choice. Well 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:19.679 it has come around really quick this year and the 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:23.240 Listener's Choice Awards are back there open and currently they're 0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:26.320 taking votes for your favorite podcast. 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She's truly 0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:25.080 truly an inspiration and for anybody who wants to be 0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:27.440 a part of well Kindness Day. We will put all 0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.879 the information about that in the show notes as well. So, Kath, 0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.399 welcome to Life on Card. We're so excited to have 0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:33.879 you today. 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:35.679 Yeah, I'm stoped to be here. Thanks for having me 0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:36.440 and thanks for. 0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:39.320 Coming all the way across Sydney to our little home studio. Sorry, 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:40.560 it's not anything flash for you. 0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:42.280 I think it's perfect. I love it. 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.800 Before we get into telling your story, we want to 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.239 start the way we start every interview, and that is 0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:49.760 with your accidentally unfiltered, your. 0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.480 Most embarrassing story. It's a great way to break the ice. Well, 0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:54.200 I feel like I'm just on a brain skin. There's 0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.320 so many to pick from. This could take up the 0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:58.720 entire podcast. Now, a good one that my friends love 0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:02.359 actually sounds really we kind of wanky, but I'm motivational speaker, 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:04.480 so to my day job and we'll get into waget 0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:06.480 a really unique story. But I was in the US. 0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:10.119 I got invited to a pretty exclusive event in the US, 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:11.920 and I didn't really know what it was about the 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.280 way that the woman had explained it to me was 0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:17.080 that it brought together the world's most powerful and influential 0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:19.920 people and brands, and to me, it sounded like a cult. 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.960 And I was a little bit apprehensive, Actually I should 0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.159 do this event, but they said that'd fly me and 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.000 my assistant. I didn't have one at the time, so 0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:29.760 my best friend got a junket to the US with me, 0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.840 first class, all this kind of stuff, and bells should 0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.480 have started ringing at this moment when I'm sipping champagne 0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:37.440 in first class and all that kind of stuff. And 0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:39.760 I got to this event and we're having a sound 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.560 check the day before, and again things should have been 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.080 making sense. The screens were bigger than any house I 0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:46.720 lived in, and I looked like an aunt as a 0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.119 four thousand strong audience it was going to be the 0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:50.840 next day because all these seats were there, and I 0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.399 was like, okay. The brief that I got were these 0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.359 people have everything they could ever want and need, So 0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.320 you just bring humility, So bring yourself humble them. I 0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:00.320 can do that. And they said to me, so how 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.240 long have I got for this talk? And they said, 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.200 you've got eight minutes? And I said, wow, that's a 0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.239 big story to fit into eight and I normally get 0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:08.320 forty five. Any chance I could have fifteen just in 0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.000 the prep and they said, look the Dalla Lama and 0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:11.760 it gets twelve. 0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.720 So and I thought they were joking. 0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:15.520 I thought they were joking. 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:16.360 I was like, oh, good one. 0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:18.640 I guess eight will do. And so I get there 0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:20.240 the next day and I'm in the green room and 0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.520 the lily snacks and I love snack. This is woman 0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:26.520 sitting there like an African American woman, black woman, beautiful, stunning, 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.640 and I was like, gee, she looks familiar. And I said, 0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:30.960 good a. I'm Kath and she said, Kath, really nice 0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:32.440 to meet. I'm Michelle. And I was like, awesome. 0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:33.040 Fuck. 0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.720 I was like she's so beautiful, and I go, it's 0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.200 really nice to meet you. And she said yeah. Likewise, 0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:43.560 what are you doing back here? And I said, I'm 0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.000 speaking today, I'm opening the whole conference. She said what 0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:47.920 are you going to talk about? I said, well, I 0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.239 guess my life story, but essentially kindness. She said's one 0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:52.760 of my most favorite things to hear about and to 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.680 learn about it. I was like, oh, that's truly lovely. 0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:56.320 I said what are you doing? And she said, I'm 0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.320 on after you. And I was like, what are you 0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:00.879 talking about? And she said, oh, this is twenty eighteen. 0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.040 And she goes and I don't watch TV or anything 0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.200 like that, and she says, I'm going to talk about 0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:06.760 the Me Too movement and I said, wow, I've heard 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.200 about that and she said, I'm sure you have. There. 0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:13.200 So she's sitting there and she goes. She goes, hey, 0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:14.959 I'm going to go out the front. You mind if 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:16.960 I watch I'm going to leave you here. I'd really 0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:18.640 like to listen to it you're going to talk about. 0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.520 And I said, of course, Like I said, I'll do 0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:22.200 the same. This is the finish, I'll run around like 0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:23.440 I really want to hear what you got to say. 0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.000 And I was like, what a wonderful woman. So I 0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.399 sweat starts. I'm like where am I like, what's going on? 0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.280 I get out and I'm two minutes into the eight 0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.240 that I've got start sort of, you know, sharing everything's 0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:35.479 gone really really well, and then I look off center 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:39.000 on stage to the right, and I was like everything 0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.440 just started to make sense, just sitting next to her husband, 0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:45.240 Barack Obama, and I'm like, and I just go, holy fuck, 0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:47.400 that was Michelle Obama. What the fuck did I say? 0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:49.040 Did I swear? Oh my god? Oh my god? And 0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:51.120 I was like, where am I? And I looked to 0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:53.360 the left and it's the da La Lama, I see 0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:55.120 you've read and yellow all like the who's. 0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:56.160 Of the Wells in this room. 0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.840 And I just shout myself like this, like the sweat 0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.920 was dripping off me, and I nearly ruined the whole thing, 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:03.760 and I was just like, so I finished the talk 0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:07.479 and had to apologize to her for basically saying I'm 0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:09.560 a fucking idiot. I'm so sorry. I didn't know like, 0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:11.640 of course I know who you are, like, of course 0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:13.880 it I just like I was so nervous, and she's like, 0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:15.760 it's fine, I loved your story. I got this like 0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:18.320 standing ovation and everyone's like on me. But I was like, 0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.040 holy shit, how has this happened? And yeah, my parents 0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.680 hate me for that, so like, how if you should 0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.640 have bowing down to this person. 0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:27.360 I was like, yeah, I didn't really think so, But 0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:30.680 she one hundred percent would have loved the fact, because 0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:32.640 she would have thought you knew who she was and 0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:34.680 just didn't care or didn't clock it. She would have 0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:35.680 loved that you treated. 0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:36.000 Her like normal. 0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:37.800 But I think this is so fucking At least you 0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:41.080 didn't say you look familia. At least she didn't ask 0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:42.520 her what she did for a job. 0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:44.600 I was like, she's Dutch. I was like, she's stunning, 0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:48.600 Like she's she's so beautiful when she's got the runaway 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.560 says like people like that have an aura, but she 0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.200 genuine I've never really experienced itting. I'm like, this woman 0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.080 is stunning and her voice and all that, and I'm like, yeah, 0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:57.320 she did look for me. I'm like, maybe it's just 0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:58.360 because she's so beautiful. 0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:00.440 Like, have I seen you on a commercial the next 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.360 commercial summer? I just love how unassuming this is that 0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:05.280 You're like even at the point where you're standing there 0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.560 on a stage and it's a thirty thousand audience and 0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.320 you're like, well, this has got a bit at it. 0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.640 This escalated quickly, didn't it. How did you not know? 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:14.680 I can't even my face the whole time you're telling 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.560 that story was like, mouth open in shore. Did you 0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:19.120 get to meet Barak? 0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:20.120 Yeah? 0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:25.120 I did, Barack, Barrack Barack. I don't know. Did you 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:25.680 get to meet here? 0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:25.960 Yeah? 0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:27.640 I called him mister president. I think that was. 0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:32.400 Only if you're singing happy birthday. I want to be good. 0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.520 I'm sorry, I'm like, I'm actually still. As the story 0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.920 was unraveling, I was like, where is this gonna go? 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:39.320 I didn't know you were about to say that the 0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:42.600 name when you were like she was really, I was like, fuck, farmer, 0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:44.800 this feeds any getting drunk and passing out in the 0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:46.960 Gutta story that you were also tossing up to tell. 0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:51.000 Let me just say that, Kav. I want to get 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.520 into a bit more of your like what makes you you? Like, 0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:55.320 where did you come from? Where did you grow up? 0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:56.520 What was your childhood? 0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:56.720 Like? 0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:58.960 Tell us a little bit about that time in your life. 0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.360 Yeah, I'm the youngest of four kids, so I got 0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.000 a really big family and three older brothers. So I 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:05.720 guess that's where I say, can get my nature from. 0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.680 And I guess the grittiness and the resilience that I've had, 0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:10.280 Like we had to fight at the dinner table for 0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:11.240 food and stuff like that. 0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.160 So I'm one of four. I feel you we had 0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:14.320 to fight to the death for a food. 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.720 Yeah, it was important, right, Yeah, surviv will die. Like 0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:19.680 my family from a really tiny country town. I was 0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.600 actually back there last week for a family funeral unfortunately, 0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.479 but called Finley in regional New South Wales, so it's 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.560 like population fifteen hundred and I love it, like it's 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.000 like my favorite holiday destination now just because you can 0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.400 switch off you don't get phone reception. There's like one 0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.320 part in town in the main drag where you get 0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:38.040 phone reception and stuff. But I feel like it really 0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.440 set me up for life. Finley. It's a really special 0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:42.760 place how I describe it, because well, what's it like there? 0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:44.840 And when I was back there last week, I noticed 0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.120 that the advertising at the hotel motel is one of 0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.000 them advertised they're dragging to get you in there, is 0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:51.240 that they have color TV. 0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:54.400 Sign me up. 0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:56.560 So that's how I Yeah, people are like, oh, I 0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.440 get it now, like it's probably one of those yeah, 0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:00.840 but it's everything to me. It's it really feels like 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.760 home and really proud to have family roots there for sure. 0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:05.760 So yeah, no, for me, it was just sport, like 0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:09.440 with three elder brothers and in a place like Finlan 0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:11.000 and all that kind of stuff, there's not really that 0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.280 much to do. I've never really been big on TV 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.400 or anything like that, so it was just always running 0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:17.400 around playing some kind of sport as a kid and 0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:19.480 all that kind of stuff. But I think being the 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.520 only girl, you know, Mum wanted a girl. She had 0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:23.880 three boys all that kind of stuff, and so I 0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:25.880 was supposed to be the you know, the princess and 0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:27.600 the ballet dancer and all that kind of stuff. 0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.200 But she's like, can I return this? This is not 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.120 what I ordered. Yeah, I'm pretty. 0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:34.400 Sure I broke her heart. Like I you know, from four, 0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:36.760 they timed me out for ballet and tap and all that, 0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.080 and I just hated it, like I'd just make every 0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:40.920 excuse to go to the bathroom or do something like 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.480 that and just wish that I was playing cricket in 0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:45.280 the backyard with my brothers and stuff. And then when 0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:46.840 I was eight, I sort of grew the courage to 0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:49.200 tell Mom, look, I don't think this is for me anymore. 0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:51.400 I think I told Dad actually, because he was just like, yep, 0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.000 cricket get her in there. Yeah, he saw me like 0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.320 playing against my brothers and he was like, she's actually 0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:59.160 quite good at this. So trading in the ballet slippers 0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.520 for cricket spike and fell in love with the game. 0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:04.600 So I was just a normal happy kid. Hey, Like 0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:07.160 I didn't have any kind of trouble growing up, Like 0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:09.840 bullying was never present in my life. I was amongst 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.560 high school kids and stuff like that just floated amongst everyone, 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.600 school captain and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, 0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:17.640 I just love love life. I still do love life, 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:21.200 But yeah, I just had a really genuinely, really cool childhood. 0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.040 The cricket is a really big part of your story. 0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.360 If anyone's listening now saying, why are we talking about 0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:27.680 the sports so much? Because you were a rising cricket star, 0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:29.400 you were very good, You were on your way to 0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:33.040 being top of your game, and that unfortunately was cut 0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:35.320 short by an accident. Can you tell us about that 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:36.040 and what happened. 0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.080 I was that person that just had to really work 0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.280 hard at everything that they earned or achieved and things 0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.640 like that. So I was never naturally gifted. I was 0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.640 okay enough, but all the coaches said, you're probably not 0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:49.760 going to make it to the level that you're aspiring to. 0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:51.480 I wanted to play for Australia, do all that kind 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:53.920 of stuff, and I just had to grind and work 0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:55.760 hard on my fitness and do all that kind of stuff. 0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.560 And I got handed my chance in twenty eleven to 0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.120 play for New South Wales. I've been over in the UK, 0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.640 played for them, sorry Middlesex over there, and then the yeah, 0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:06.440 the phone come calling and they said, look, we're ready 0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.440 to pick you, so come back. All that kind of stuff, 0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.439 so come back. And I've been training really really hard, 0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:13.879 and I've noticed a bit of pain in my left 0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:16.200 glute and some numbness in my left hoe my left 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.040 big toe, and I went to the physio and she 0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.160 was a little bit more alarmed and I was like, look, 0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:22.560 currently feel my big toe and she was just like, oh, 0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.000 that's a bit of an issue. And in those sorts 0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:27.720 of sports environment there's no privacy, so your teammates always 0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:29.760 around you when you're naked and all that kind of stuff, 0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:31.600 and getting undressed for the physio all that, and so 0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:33.000 everyone's like, what do you mean you can't feel your 0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:34.360 big to I was like, I don't know, like it 0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:38.360 just can't feel it like Lane, that's it. 0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:38.719 Yeah. 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.000 So they scanned up and I realized that I had 0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:45.239 a prolapse disc in my spine, so nothing, you know, 0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:47.920 it was you know, serious, but not too severe, they 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:49.200 sort of said to me, and they said, look, we 0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:53.440 can try some quarterzone injections, but basically you're up for selection. 0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:55.399 Been going really really well, like I had a great 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:57.759 debut all that kind of stuff, and they said, look, 0:34:57.920 --> 0:34:59.360 it's up to you. It's fifty fifet when I'm going 0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.080 to rule you out. But you need to know the 0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:04.239 risks associated with playing. And so I said, okay, well 0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:05.799 of coursing on a pit because this is what I've 0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:07.799 dreamt of since I was like a little girl, since 0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:11.160 I was eight. And so I played and no regrets. 0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.880 But essentially in the next game that I played, the 0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.120 disc that was prolapsed in my spine, it come up 0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.520 that quickly that the two vertebrae had nowhere to go, 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:20.800 and they cracked onto each other, and part of the 0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:24.840 bottom vertebrae cracked off and embedded itself straight into my 0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:25.600 spinal cord. 0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:27.120 So, oh my god. 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:30.719 In the game, yeah, I was twenty three, and immediately 0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:32.960 you know that sensation that had in my big toe 0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.720 was both legs, blow the waist, all that kind of stuff. 0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:39.320 So raced off to hospital and started scanning up and 0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:41.600 was raced into some surgery and all that kind of stuff, 0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:44.440 and then five unsuccessful surgeries and they said, mate, like, 0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:46.759 not only is this stream just gone, but you're never 0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.719 going to walk again life in a wheelchair. Like the 0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:52.799 damage is really severe. So really confronting, said like, I'd 0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:54.799 built an identity around being able to hit a ball 0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:58.279 around the park, and so relationships and love and all 0:35:58.360 --> 0:35:59.920 that sort of thing, I guess was on the back. 0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:03.600 And so yeah, just had this situation where I was like, 0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:05.320 all of this has now been taken away from me. 0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:06.600 Who am I? What do I do? 0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:10.160 All that kind of stuff? And one doctor, my doctor, 0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.400 so he said, look, there's this new age technique that 0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:16.040 they're doing with spinal surgeries at the moment, all spines 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.080 at the moment. It's from the US. There's a lot 0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:19.920 of people doing it there, but it's very new to hear. 0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.600 There's one surgeon that does it. It's in the Gold Coast. 0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:24.440 So we've got to get you there to have this surgery. 0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:26.360 But it's going to give you the best chance, so 0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.000 I can't guarantee it, but you should take it. And so, 0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.200 of course, like not really thinking there was any alternative, 0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:34.719 which there wasn't really apart from just resigning myself to 0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:36.480 the fact that it was life in a wheelchair, off 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:39.880 I went and I had that surgery. The difference between 0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.839 that one and others is so invasive. Normally they'd cut 0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.120 through your back and access your spine that way, and 0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:47.680 this one they cut through the stomach and they you know, 0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.640 shift your entire stomach so vital logans or get pushed 0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:53.719 aside and they access the spine that way. So yeah, 0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.080 really big one, and you sort of, you know, afterwards 0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.920 feeling quite groggy and a lot of pain because of that. 0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:03.040 But they line the vertebrae with titanium reinforcement, put like 0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.279 a ball and socket joint in there, I guess the 0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.120 idea is, and they sort of like put a casing 0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:08.960 around it, and the idea is that you'd get a 0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:10.920 lot more mobility with that ball and socket. 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:13.319 At the time when you opted to have this really 0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:15.920 invasive surgery, was it with the hopes that you'd be 0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:17.759 able to go back to cricket or was it just 0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:19.520 with the hopes that you would be able to gain 0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:22.319 full use of your legs and be walking again. Where 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.759 were you at in your own processing and at this 0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:27.600 point were you not walking? Were you better? Yeap? So 0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.200 that was already there was no movie. 0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:30.480 Yeah. 0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.399 I mean, that's a really decent question, a really good 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:34.000 one that not many people are asked, because for me, 0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:36.920 I was always getting back on the park like that 0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:39.279 was never a thing, like it was never never once 0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:41.759 did my thought presssess say you're not going to play 0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.200 cricket again, whereas everyone else was like, just try and 0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.840 walk like or just anything like. But everyone else, I 0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:49.040 think believe that it would never get there and that's okay, 0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.600 like no drama. But I think for me the intention 0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:53.759 was I'll get through this, it's okay. And I guess 0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.840 because the injury happened and it was like surgery, surgery, surgery, 0:37:57.520 --> 0:37:59.600 and you sort of get stuck in this vortex of 0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:01.239 just I just need to get through today and then 0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:02.759 I'll be okay, and then I'll get through tomorrow and 0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.440 then I've got the surgery coming up and hopefully that 0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.680 fixes it and all that kind of stuff. But it's 0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:09.560 a huge surgery. Threw four centimeters in that surgery, so 0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:12.239 my bmile mess immediately improves and I'm like, sick, this 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.520 is awesome. The wunder you wake up feeling the way 0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:16.719 that you do, Like I was like the world is end, 0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:18.960 Like it felt like the world was ending when I 0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:21.960 woke up from that surgery. The pain that I was 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:25.440 in my body was horrific. And I've been through a 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.080 lot of injuries and a lot of pain and stuff, 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:28.920 and I remember, you get to ask the pains go 0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:30.640 it was your pain out of ten and for me, 0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:32.800 like to say eight is excruciating. And I was like, 0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:34.799 it's a seven and she was just like, I think 0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:37.920 that's a ten. I'm pumper with like like all these 0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.239 drugs and stuff, and so it was intense. I mean, 0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.920 I'd never want to watch a YouTube having been through it. 0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:45.120 I don't think I want to watch what that surgical 0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.279 interventions like. I mean, the pain that I felt, I 0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:49.480 can I can understand it'd be pretty pretty full. 0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:52.560 On afterd this surgery was that when you were told 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:54.840 that you may need to have an amputation, is that 0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.239 when there was some more complications. 0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:59.480 Not immediately, So basically you know I'm in the Gold 0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:02.040 Coast that happens. You lie there for two weeks in traction. 0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:04.360 That's when all the head noise started for me. Like 0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.799 I've never I'd never up until that point, experience any 0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:08.719 sort of form of mental ill health. As I said, 0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:11.440 I had a great childhood and just never really, you know, 0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:13.080 I've been lucky enough to be blessed with the brain 0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.600 that doesn't work that way immediately. And so yeah, I'm 0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:18.759 lying there for traction, and I just start thinking, Wow, 0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.560 is this I mean, so much pain, and you know, 0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:23.000 so many drugs gone through my system. 0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:23.640 I'm really groggy. 0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.680 I can't get clear in my thinking process. And everyone 0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:28.239 kept saying, you know, it's two weeks and then you 0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:30.759 might take your first steps, we can't guarantee it, and 0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:32.000 all this kind of stuff. I'm like, well, we lie 0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:33.360 because I mean so much pain. Is this going to 0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:35.759 be worth it? And all that? And so two weeks later, 0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:37.239 I get out of bed and I've got all these 0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:40.759 like early male nurses and stuff underneath me. Helped me 0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:42.759 to walk and I only took two steps that day, 0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:45.000 but I still couldn't feel anything. The day after that, 0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:46.719 I took four, and you know, I spent the next 0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:49.800 sort of six weeks in the Gold Coast, my stomach 0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.200 wound healing and doing all that kind of stuff until 0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.400 they like medically cleared me to fly back home to 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:56.640 Sydney I was living at that point in time, and 0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:00.160 then finish the rehab processes and outpatient here, so like 0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:02.040 go and keep keep your activities up and all that 0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.360 kind of stuff. And at this point it's like deemed 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.000 a miracle because you know those Canadian crutches, the one 0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:08.879 that we like wrap around, I was walking with them, 0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:12.239 so I looked like I was doing very very well, 0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.560 and I was. I started to regain feeling in my 0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.920 right leg, which was amazing. Left was a little bit 0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:20.360 far behind, but it was getting and you could sense that. 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:22.320 And then I woke up one morning due to be 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.759 at rehab, like just a routine sort of thing with 0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:26.560 the injury I was going through. And you know when 0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:28.200 you like sat down too long, could be at work 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:31.120 or you know wherever you are watching Netflix still and whatever, 0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.399 and your arms are in that bent position you can't 0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:35.239 move them, yeah, and you're like, shit, my arm's and 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:37.239 I'm like I'll shake it out and get the pins 0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:39.200 and needles and all that. It was like that it's 0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.520 like five o'clock in the morning. But my entire left leg, 0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.600 it was just really heavy, and I was like, what's 0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:46.120 going on here? So I thought it must have slept 0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:48.240 in a funny position. So I tried to like maneuver 0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:51.560 myself in bed, and nothing really happened. Like two minutes later, 0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:53.239 I'm still sort of waiting for it to wake up, 0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:55.640 and I'll never forget it. I flick on my bedside 0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:57.360 table lighte and I look under the cover and my 0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:00.440 entire left leg was just blue, like a who's kind 0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:00.800 of color. 0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:02.759 Just no blood was getting to it. 0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.040 Yeah, but you didn't know that. I didn't know that 0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.920 because you don't feel it. Yeah. So I pick up 0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:09.480 my leg, couldn't move it, pick it up, put it 0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:11.480 to the side of my bed, face planted, And this 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:13.360 part of the story it will resonate with you. I 0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.760 crawled myself into the bathroom and I sat on the toilet, 0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:18.880 and I had no idea if I was using the bathroom, 0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:21.160 and my surgeons it all said to me, with an 0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:23.320 injury like yours, if that happens, if your blood or 0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.360 bow'll start to shut down, that's life threatening, and you 0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.000 get straight to an emergency room, and so I thought, okay, 0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:31.560 I can't wuck around here. So I had flatmates, and 0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:33.600 being the stubborn creature that I am, I didn't ask 0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:36.120 any of them for help. I crawled past them to 0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:36.600 my car. 0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:40.400 Oh my god, cat. If there's ever a time to 0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:42.719 say hey, someone help me is when you're crawling to 0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:43.960 drag yourself to a hospital. 0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:46.320 Just earlier. My thought process was like, I need to 0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.000 get to a hospital, but also I can't wake the marp, 0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:49.759 but it's too early. So I crawled myself out to 0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:51.680 a car and I drove an auto and I had 0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:55.000 a right leg that was working, and put myself into 0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.080 the car and started driving towards what I thought would 0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.719 be rehab. And called my doctor on the way and 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:01.480 picked up and he said, what's going on? I said, look, 0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.120 here's how I woke up this morning, and he said, 0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:06.960 bypass rehard met me straight at RPA Royal Prince Alfred 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:10.040 Hospital in Sydney. So I get there, are parking emergency 0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:12.680 bay and I crawled myself into the emergency room and 0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:14.560 they're like, man, what on earth are you doing? And 0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:17.000 I said, look, he's what my life's looked like. The 0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:19.000 last kind of you know three months. And so I 0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:20.400 woke up this morning and they put me in a 0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.120 wheelchair and I get into that consult room till about 0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:27.279 a half a day's worth of testing. And again, I'll 0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:29.520 never forget this moment. E They're like, all the doctors 0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:31.799 are sort of outside of my room, and I could 0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:33.640 tell there was something going on that was big, and 0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:35.719 they were looking in and I try and look at 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:38.440 their eyes or lippre what they were saying and hear 0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:40.480 what they were saying, and every time they'd catch my gaze, 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:42.520 they'd look away. It couldn't really look me in the eye. 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:43.880 And I was like, shit, I don't think it's going 0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:46.080 to be good news. And yeah, one doctor walks in, 0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:48.399 my doctor and he just sort of said, look, Kath, 0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.400 I'm afraid the news isn't great. We're going to amputate 0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:53.960 your leg. And I just sat there and completely disbelief, 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:57.880 going what I said so many words. Probably we've already 0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.440 dropped a few f bombs up because I am all on, 0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:03.719 but yeah, like all this stuff just starts going through 0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:05.239 my head. What on earth is going on? I didn't 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:06.839 know this was a risk for me, all that kind 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.799 of stuff. And I called my brother. The funniest part 0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:11.440 about this is he was a butcher at the time, 0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:13.279 and they're going to amputate my leg and that was 0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:14.880 really we found that really funny in the moment. 0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:18.640 But I'm glad you found very dark. It's very hey. 0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:19.799 If that's how you handle it. 0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.640 Yeah, I just had to sort of yeah. So he 0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:25.040 just started asking all the questions that I you know, 0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:27.560 the shock that I was in, I didn't think to ask, 0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.960 and so basically I just like explained this to me 0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:32.759 because I don't really understand it. And they said, well, 0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:36.880 anyone with normal, healthy legs, depending on where they're sitting, running, walking, crawling, 0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:39.000 whatever is that doing, they've got a normal blood pressure 0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.759 anywhere between ninety and one hundred percent. Anything blow twenty 0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.920 percent is dire, and anything blow ten percent is dead. 0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:46.560 And I said where am I and they said, well, 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:48.680 you were at seven percent at one point this morning. 0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:50.960 I said, wow, so it's dead and they said that's 0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:54.040 why it's turned blue. But it is fluctuating. And I said, well, 0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.560 is that what we call hope? And they sort of 0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:59.520 giggled at me and they said, mate, this is serious, 0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:01.960 and I said, yeah, I appreciate that, but no one's 0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:03.680 ever told me that I was at risk of having 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.440 my leg amputated. Like, I don't have anything against I 0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.040 live with a disability now, I don't have anything against that. 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:12.280 It's just I didn't know this was it's a able. 0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:14.239 So I say, can you give me a chance at 0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:16.000 just keeping it, Like, just give me a shot, just 0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:19.960 prescribe me something, a drug appeal, whatever it is. They said, well, 0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:22.440 we can't really figure it out. We don't really know 0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.000 what's going on, but we think it's a blood flow issue, 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.239 so exercise could help. And I was like, oh cool, 0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:28.960 I'm an athlete and I had to do that. So 0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:31.839 what's my deadline all that kind of stuff. And they said, well, 0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:33.400 we'll give you two weeks. You need to go to 0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.520 hospital or rehab every morning, get it tested. If it 0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:37.880 drops below ten again, it's gone on the spot. But 0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:39.839 essentially if you can get it above twenty percent by 0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.600 this time, like two weeks, then we might be able 0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:44.719 to work with that. So my next two weeks looks 0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:46.560 like this. I'd get up at like four in the morning, 0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:49.440 have Brecky, go to hospital or rehab, have it tested 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.600 with the help of their sort of physios and practitioners 0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:54.799 get it moving in any way that could. And again 0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:57.560 I was walking with those Canadian crutches and said I 0:44:57.680 --> 0:44:59.839 wasn't walking. I was hopping on my right leg I could, 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.520 or my left literally dragged half meter behind me. So 0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:04.600 the shoes are all worn down and scuffed and really 0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:08.000 confronting to see and go back home, have more brecky, 0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:10.600 go to the local gym. There's some stuff there that 0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:12.359 I could do. Go back home, have lunch, go back 0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.680 to the local gym, and anyone that knew my struggle 0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:16.600 would sort of help me, because it was really hard 0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:19.799 to keep it moving and I couldn't really sleep because 0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:23.160 of the stress and anxiety. So I'd get up at 0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:24.799 like two in the morning, and I had a twenty 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:27.080 four hours past the city cricket ground where I was 0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:30.120 a contracted athlete. I'd go there just to get my 0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:32.520 leg moving at two in the morning, and the security guards, 0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:34.600 because it's man twenty four hours a day, they'd notice 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:37.200 the lights on and rather than coming down and kicking 0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:40.279 me out, like they probably very within their right to do, 0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:41.799 they said, so what are you doing here? A's two 0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:45.080 o'clock in the morning. And I explained my situation and 0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:47.760 as I said, rather than kicking me out, hit Bobby, 0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.080 this older guy who always seemed to draw the short shore, 0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.560 and that two week period of that night shift would 0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:54.719 literally get electrical tape and he'd strap my left leg 0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:57.239 into a spin bike or a cross trainer, go back 0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:59.400 to his post, come back and unstrap me, and then 0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:01.759 help me with an machine. And it was the first 0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:05.880 time in my life that I really understood recognize the 0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:07.640 power of kindness right like this guy. 0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:13.000 Actually, I've tried not to just like tears Roy, I 0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:13.680 love Bobby. 0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:17.040 Yeah, Bobby, he's past, bless his soul, but he was 0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:20.160 just such a wonderful man. And those moments are so 0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:23.319 powerful and I just and this is my mission now 0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:26.279 in life, is to if you have the opportunity to 0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:28.920 help someone in times like that, please do it because 0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:30.520 it means so much to a person when they're in 0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:33.439 a struggle. Moments like that have definitely saved my life 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:35.799 and they are so powerful. And yeah, I just think 0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:39.840 those moments are so important to surviving in times of adversity, 0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:43.200 but also to thriving in life as well. So yeah, 0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.000 I'll progress the story. It gets to the day before 0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.239 you to be amputated, and I know that we've sort 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:50.080 of alluded to dark humor, and my family very much 0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.320 rely on that to get through, and having supported me 0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:55.120 through many moments, have gotten there as well. It was 0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:57.200 to no avail, so I couldn't get above twenty percent, 0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:59.680 and I thought all these efforts were gone, and my 0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:02.440 pair parents decided they wanted to have a barbecue on 0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:04.640 Sunday before the Monday that I was going to have 0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:08.080 this amputation, and my brother legitimately put together this invitation 0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:10.560 and send it to my closest friends and family, and 0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:14.319 it simply read, you're invited cuts last day with two 0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:15.080 legs barbecue. 0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:22.040 We're having a farewell. Oh my god, stop it. I mean, 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.399 I actually love that. I love that because there's there's 0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:26.719 so much that can be done with humor, and it 0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:29.120 really does help so many situations. And if that's what 0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:30.400 helps to you, guys, like. 0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:32.839 Yeah, I mean, and it's so funny. And I wet 0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:34.640 myself and I was like this, this is great, but 0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:37.480 in all seriousness to have those people like my closest 0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:39.320 friends and family around me, I just I was just like, 0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:41.879 it's okay, I'll be a leg less the next day. 0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:44.080 But I've got so much love around me, so much 0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:45.960 support and all that kind of stuff. Not looking forward 0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:47.080 to it by any stretch, but I was like, I'm 0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.120 gonna be okay, Like it's okay. But yeah, when I 0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:51.200 was staying at Mum and Dad's that night, they're going 0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:53.000 to take me into the surgery the next day and 0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:55.120 wrap their arms around me and all that. And I 0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:57.560 don't really remember this part of the story, but dud 0:47:57.640 --> 0:47:59.640 tells it really well. Woke up at sort of three 0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:02.960 in the more feeling pretty crooked and collapsed unconsciously onto 0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.160 the floor, went to use the bathroom or something, and 0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:07.520 it woke that up, the thud on the floor. So 0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:09.040 picked me up, put me into the car, took me 0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:12.439 this innery or a hospital, made an entire body scan, 0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:15.600 and realized that I've been bleeding internally from the stomach wound. 0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:19.080 So basically, the surgeon had very accidentally and very slightly 0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:22.239 nicked the federal artery that ran into my left leg. 0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:24.400 So that's why that was the problem. That's why you 0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:27.000 went the blood supply. Yeah, you must have had a clot. 0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:28.640 When you were telling this story, I thought you must 0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:30.160 have had a clot in your left federal artery. 0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:33.000 Yeah, so he basically nicked it was so mini skill 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:35.200 and I'd lost all her weight throughout my recovery, and 0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:37.440 so the blood was sort of pulling in this pocket 0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:39.640 in my stomach. Almost couldn't see it to the naked 0:48:39.680 --> 0:48:42.880 eye and the nerve damage in my spinal cord injury. 0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:45.080 From my spinal cord injury, it just wouldn't carry the 0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:47.400 limited supply of blood into that left leg. And so 0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:51.400 raised off emergency surgery again, and three hours later, I 0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:53.800 wake up really groggy. I just start feeling around is 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:55.920 it attached? Like is my leg still there? And everyone 0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.279 was like, you know, the surgeons like made it. It's 0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:01.520 still attached. It's okay, lightsop pain, but you're not out 0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:03.680 of the woods. To keep it attached and to keep 0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:05.719 it healthy, you need to go to rehab. And if 0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:07.640 you ever want the chance of walking again, that's going 0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:10.360 to look like six to twelve months. And I've never 0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:13.279 really heard of rehab for that long or you know, 0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.440 in that way or anything like that. And so they said, 0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:17.759 you know, pack up your life, quit your job, cricket's gone, 0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.040 like all that kind of stuff, Off you go, And 0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:22.160 so I just didn't really see any other options. So 0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:25.200 off to rehab I went. And you know, after recovering 0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:28.920 from that surgery obviously, and it was such a confronting 0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:30.680 experience for me. I was I was twenty three at 0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:32.960 the time, and you know, you feel so adult when 0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:35.239 you're that age, and I wasn't. I was just a kid. 0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:38.239 Basically, what was your mental health like at this point 0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:41.400 in time when your identity has changed so much so quickly, 0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:44.600 and you at each point are thinking, Oh, I'm going 0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:46.440 to get better and this is going to be okay, 0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:47.920 and I'm going to get back to doing the thing 0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:50.839 that I love, which was my identity. Yeah, how are 0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:52.759 you not just physically, but how are you emotionally and 0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:53.879 mentally at that point in time? 0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:56.640 Yeah, I think like the decline in my mental health 0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:58.719 happened a little bit later, and again I think it 0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:01.160 was just literally and I feel like probably the last 0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:03.279 ten years of my life, because there've been so many 0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:06.000 roadblocks and big challenges and as well as some really 0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:08.759 amazing moments as well, I just felt like I was 0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:12.040 constantly coming up for air. So at that point, again, 0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:15.320 still very probably naive, and I think I was protected 0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:17.759 because of my support network as well, and the fact 0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:20.240 that I was never predisposed to mental real health probably 0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:23.879 helped me in that phase. So it wasn't too bad. Again, 0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:25.759 I just had this belief that I was going to 0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:27.640 be okay. And I don't know where that comes from 0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:30.400 or why. Again, just probably luck in my upbringing and 0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:32.680 things like that, But it wasn't too bad at that 0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:34.960 point in time. Certainly, when I first got there, I 0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:37.840 was putting the wrong ward. I was twenty three and 0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:40.160 I got put in the geriatric ward and beds in 0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:42.000 the water. I was supposed to be, and so I 0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:45.000 had three categories. The over sixty fives, you over seventy fives, 0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:47.359 and they over eighty fives, and they were always at 0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:49.560 twenty three. They put me with eighty five year olds, 0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:50.120 and I was. 0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:53.200 Like hanging out with Daryl. It was amazing. 0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:55.680 As I said, I was twenty three. I've always been 0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.520 a pretty decent person and cared about others, but really 0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:00.840 the other thing I'd ever cared about was cricket, and 0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:04.560 here I am surrounded by these geriatric patients who taught 0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:07.520 me so much about life and perspective. I had, you know, 0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:10.400 an eighty five year old war veteran who had bullet 0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:12.440 holes in his back, and he told me all these stories, 0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:15.040 confronting stories about hardship, and I was like, Jesus, this 0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:18.680 is adversity, like not breaking your back, like really dying 0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:22.520 on the warfront. Like wow, this puts my struggle into perspective. 0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:25.399 And my best friend actually from rehab was an eighty 0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:28.360 five year old woman, Daisy. Daisy wasn't actually her name was. 0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:30.520 It was irs. I called her Daisy because she called 0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:35.640 me Alice. She still has her granddaughter. Oh, so like 0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:37.960 warmed and broke my heart at the same time. But yeah, 0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:40.360 she had dementia and had suffered a stroke and all that. 0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:42.120 So every day I'd take her a cup of tea, 0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:43.959 had to thicken it with an agent so she didn't 0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:46.640 catch pneumonia. And she just told me stories that were 0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:48.640 the most amazing stories. I don't think any of them 0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:51.399 were true, but that were phenomenal stories that really made 0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:54.080 my time a little bit more bearable. But that was 0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:55.840 the reality of my life at that moment. I just 0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:59.680 had to find friendship in the most extraordinary faces and ways, 0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:02.440 And yeah, I loved it. I learned so much as 0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:04.760 a result of those guys. But you know, you referred 0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:06.920 to some mental health. What was it like? I remember 0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:09.800 a week into my stay there and the reality just 0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:11.839 hit me like a ton of bricks and just had 0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:13.520 tears running down my face. I was like, how on 0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:16.800 earth I've gotten through my first week? And it was horrific. 0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:18.920 How on earth am I going to get through six 0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:19.719 to twelve months of this? 0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:20.040 Like? 0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:22.359 How is that possible? And I called my best friend 0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:25.600 and this story it really highlights the importance of human 0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:27.600 connection to me. I said, look, you got to come 0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:29.080 and pick me up. And she's like, Cauth, I'm a 0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:31.560 little bit confused. You're in rehab. We know that six 0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:33.120 to twelve months all that kind of stuff, So I 0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:34.840 know if they cut my leg off, that's okay. I 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:37.959 just can't stay in this environment much longer. And she said, mate, 0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:39.799 this has breaking me to see you like this. You're 0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:41.520 my best friend. There's nothing I wouldn't do for you. 0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:43.680 I can't do this for you. I wish I could, 0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:45.600 because I'd take it away if I could, but I can't, 0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:47.359 and she goes, what I can do is I can 0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:48.680 tell you that I believe in you, and I know 0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:50.440 that you've got this. I've seen you do hard things 0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:51.840 and I know that you can get through this, and 0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:53.839 she said, I won't come pick you up, I'll come 0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:57.120 visit and I'll walk this journey metaphorically. So I buy 0:52:57.160 --> 0:52:59.759 side with you. You've got this, and please know that 0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:02.040 I've leave in you. And I think that tough love. 0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:04.320 Really it gave me that sense of belief where I 0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:06.359 was like, Okay, if she believes in me, then then 0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:08.040 I need to believe in myself as well. I've got this, 0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:11.040 and so I just then committed myself to the process. 0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:13.560 It was, you know, go from bed to chair, chair 0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:15.880 to frame, frame to stick, six to stick and then 0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:18.319 you're on your way, and much harder in reality when 0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:19.840 you're you know, everyone's telling it you're not going to 0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:21.200 do it and all that kind of stuff. I'm like, well, 0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:22.920 see how we go. I'll give it a go today 0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:25.200 and all that kind of stuff. So it was tough, 0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:27.799 and my luck changed in a really good way though 0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:30.200 about a month into my stay when I met something 0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:32.600 so much grander than anything that I experienced before, in 0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:34.800 meeting who was going to be the love of my life. 0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:37.080 So yeah, I ended up meeting a fellow patient. His 0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:40.160 name was Jim Rugby league player or semi professional rugby 0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:43.040 league player an injury spine, not doing rugby of all things. 0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:45.520 That was the tough matter obstacle race. So he was 0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:48.560 doing that probably shouldn't have with contractual sort of things. 0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:50.600 And it's on that I don't really I've never really 0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:52.280 seen it, but I must have been like a monkey 0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:54.399 bar kind of challenge. And someone had gone to early 0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:57.879 and pushed into his back and he fell awkwardly from 0:53:57.920 --> 0:54:00.520 a pretty great height and broken his back too. So 0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:03.560 he lands himself in rehab and being surrounded by you 0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:06.719 know Daisy or not Daisy, but Iris as well as 0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:08.560 you know war Vester into our love. They're you know, 0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:11.080 still great friends and stuff. But you know, it was 0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:14.600 really refreshing to see someone of like mind, age ability, 0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:16.680 all that kind of stuff enter And I thought it 0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:18.279 was quite cute and all that kind of stuff, and 0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:20.239 so it was like, well, when I got here, it 0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:22.120 would have been really nice to have someone show me 0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:24.200 the ropes and show me just all the things you 0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:26.160 need to know in a new environment. It's like I've 0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:28.160 taken upon myself to be that person for him so 0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:30.040 that he can lean on me. It's really confronting when 0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:31.239 you get there all that kind of stuff and. 0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:33.280 To get in there before Daisy does yeah. 0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:37.800 Of his mind, yeah, I think, well she was, she 0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:39.800 was right in there, she was nudging me. She's like, 0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:44.840 you know, just started off as friends and just enjoyed 0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:47.960 each other's company, and very quickly, and much to my surprise, 0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:51.319 we fell in love, which was just so special. I mean, 0:54:51.360 --> 0:54:53.320 who finds love in a rehab center? It sounds so 0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:56.240 funny to even say. Thankfully it wasn't drugging alcohol rehab. 0:54:56.320 --> 0:54:59.040 But I guess the thing that made our time bearable 0:54:59.120 --> 0:55:02.320 in rehab was because we really didn't like that environment. 0:55:02.400 --> 0:55:05.440 It was let's stream a life that exists once we're finished, 0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:07.279 and that's almost the reward, right, So what does life 0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:10.880 look like? So our dreams were like they were amazing, 0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:13.279 And think back on this time right now with so 0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:17.239 much adoration, and it still warms my heart to think 0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:19.759 about it. So for us, it was four kids, three 0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:21.799 boys and a girl, just like my family, the house 0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:24.239 in Broad Border on the Gold Coast, which is where 0:55:24.239 --> 0:55:27.040 he was from originally, pet turtles, the dog, all that 0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:30.040 kind of stuff, and we dreamt so often to make 0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:32.600 that time bearable. And there were dreams that I'd never 0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:35.279 dreamt before or dared to dream with anyone before, because 0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:37.560 all I ever cared about was was cricket. And I 0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:39.800 remember three months into our relationship, you know, in that 0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:42.440 kind of phase where you like, this person is perfect, 0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:45.160 like could never and he's still perfect to me. But 0:55:45.680 --> 0:55:48.120 I remember three months in going I am so grateful 0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:50.520 that I broke my back, Like I'm so grateful, and 0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:53.759 that so sounds so confronting to hear that, right, but 0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:55.120 I was like, if I didn't, I wouldn't have met 0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:58.239 this person who's everything to me now. And I just 0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:01.080 the life that we'd been dreaming, that we were dreaming 0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:03.480 was so special to me, and we're just like young 0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:06.520 kids in love, like sort of long walks on the beach, 0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:08.800 we did wheelchair races in the corridor and all that 0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:09.520 kind of stuff. 0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:13.800 And was he a quadriplegic paraplegic or was he just 0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:14.719 not able to walk? 0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:17.280 Like what we were very similar to me so para 0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:20.160 but had he had a better prognosis than what I did, 0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:23.399 and you know, his recovery was pretty phenomenal as well. 0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:25.040 Like we were both people who I guess had that 0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:28.239 never say it just the athletic kind of background and 0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:30.759 things like that when we both entered rehabit in wheelchairs 0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:32.839 but progressed, you know, within three months to be out 0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:35.040 of those and still had a lot of work to 0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:38.359 do to get back to normality. But both really really 0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:42.279 gritty in I guess our determination to want a better 0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:44.920 life for both of us, so strong mindset and all 0:56:44.960 --> 0:56:45.839 that kind of stuff as well. 0:56:45.920 --> 0:56:47.839 And to put this into perspective, just for a time 0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:51.600 frame from your injury until this point in time, what's 0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:53.319 the time period that has passed. 0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:57.080 The initial injury. Yeah, it would have been about six 0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:59.719 months I reckon from Yeah, initial injury for sure. 0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:03.600 Okay, so you're in love, and what you were just 0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:06.320 saying is for you to say, I was actually grateful 0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:08.680 that I break my back. Love is a really powerful thing, 0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:11.040 Like there is no better feeling in the world than 0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:13.799 having someone love you unconditionally and you love someone back. 0:57:13.880 --> 0:57:15.920 And I think that that's a testament from what you 0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:18.040 just said, the fact that I'm grateful to be here 0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:20.640 and I'm sure he was too. So how long were 0:57:20.680 --> 0:57:23.960 you two together in rehab and how did that end 0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:25.920 in terms of did one of you get out first? 0:57:26.160 --> 0:57:28.880 So we're together twelve months. I was basically at that 0:57:28.960 --> 0:57:32.160 point considering outpatient. So I lasted about eight months an 0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:35.400 in house patient at the rehab center and then progressed 0:57:35.440 --> 0:57:37.919 onto outpatient. What that means is you just there three 0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:41.280 mornings a week, say, getting checked up and continuing the 0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:43.640 process and getting better. But you can then go home 0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:45.560 and be in your home environment or at work or 0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:47.680 wherever it is that you're doing, and live some sort 0:57:47.720 --> 0:57:50.960 of so almost like a transition into normal life. Jim 0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:52.400 had a day to go before he was to be 0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:54.600 considered that kind of patient. Just put the lease on 0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:57.480 the house together, and all these dreams that we've been dreaming, 0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:00.720 we're about to come true the very next day. So yeah, 0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:03.480 he was probably three months behind me, but his injuries were, 0:58:03.800 --> 0:58:05.320 you know, three months after mine as well. 0:58:05.560 --> 0:58:07.919 And at this point, like we're here to talk about 0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:11.040 the kindness Factory, and there are so many challenging things 0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:13.200 that have happened in your life that have contributed to 0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:16.400 you creating the kindness factory. And you would think that 0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:18.640 after going through this process of breaking your back, that 0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:21.120 that was the life that you were creating was on 0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:22.760 the way up. Now, that's what you had everything to 0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:25.120 look forward to. But that's not where your story ends. 0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:29.680 No, no, it's not so that night, so he was 0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:32.120 due to bid released on the fourteenth of November, and 0:58:32.960 --> 0:58:35.360 the day before his release of the thirteenth of November 0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:41.680 in twenty twelve, he passed away. So suicide and just, 0:58:42.320 --> 0:58:45.360 oh god, it's nearly the anniversary and it just it 0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:48.360 crushed me beyond belief. Still to nine years later, and 0:58:49.240 --> 0:58:53.160 it's so hard. It's God, I love him still still 0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:56.880 to this day. He's just so perfect to me. You know, 0:58:56.960 --> 0:58:59.480 no one's perfect, but to me, he was just everything. 0:58:59.560 --> 0:59:06.680 And oh shit, you're looking at it. We're just crying 0:59:06.840 --> 0:59:10.160 looking at you that cav Just you're I mean, you're 0:59:11.080 --> 0:59:13.320 honestly sitting here. You are one of the most positive 0:59:13.320 --> 0:59:15.920 people we have spoken to. The way that you tell 0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:18.120 your stories and the way that you honor him in 0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:21.480 what you have created is truly truly beautiful. But just 0:59:21.720 --> 0:59:23.920 talk me through this period when you have gone through 0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:26.640 having your back shattered to them, losing the love of 0:59:26.720 --> 0:59:28.960 your life. Did you know that he was struggling in 0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:31.120 this way? Did you know that this was something he'd 0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:31.880 been considering. 0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:36.280 No, I didn't, And it's so interesting. My life story 0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:38.720 gets put in shining lights and all that kind of stuff, 0:59:38.720 --> 0:59:40.840 and you get one life and you live it through 0:59:40.840 --> 0:59:43.200 the lens that you get. And I wouldn't change my 0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:45.760 life or my experiences for anything, because I'm proud of 0:59:45.840 --> 0:59:47.680 the person that I am and the people that have 0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:50.040 come on my journey, and some are here still to 0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:52.880 this day and others aren't. They've shaped me into the perth. 0:59:53.240 --> 0:59:55.680 There's this saying it's I don't even know if I 0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:57.400 made it up or not, but it's, you know, I'm 0:59:57.440 --> 1:00:00.160 little pieces of everyone that I've met. Did Jim. I 1:00:00.280 --> 1:00:02.800 cherish most of the parts that are his, that exists 1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:05.480 within me, and as you said, the legacy that's now 1:00:05.560 --> 1:00:08.720 being created, it's not even me, it's definitely him. He's 1:00:09.000 --> 1:00:11.800 at the forefront of everything that I do, and no, 1:00:11.920 --> 1:00:14.480 I didn't see it coming. And the grief that happened 1:00:14.720 --> 1:00:18.360 after he's passing, it's still torturous and I still live 1:00:18.440 --> 1:00:21.160 with challenges of that every single day and reminders of that. 1:00:21.360 --> 1:00:23.840 And for so long I held on to this thing 1:00:23.920 --> 1:00:26.320 that he'd given me so much as in you know, 1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:30.120 I was never faced with the thought of suicide ideation 1:00:30.200 --> 1:00:34.040 throughout my rehab period, but he definitely helped me throughout 1:00:34.120 --> 1:00:36.600 the struggle of rehab, and I just kept thinking, well, 1:00:36.640 --> 1:00:39.120 did I not help him? And it was never was 1:00:39.160 --> 1:00:41.440 I not enough? I have to believe that our relationship 1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:44.200 was as beautiful as it exists within my heart now, 1:00:44.480 --> 1:00:48.440 and I'm definitely not thinking otherwise at all. Ever. I 1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:51.040 just felt so much empathy for him in that, you know, 1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:53.080 was he struggling and I didn't see it? And I 1:00:53.160 --> 1:00:55.360 wish he just had told me, because I opened up 1:00:55.400 --> 1:00:57.640 to him a lot and saying I'm really struggling today 1:00:57.640 --> 1:00:59.920 and I can't I don't want to go to this session, 1:01:00.000 --> 1:01:01.160 and he'd be like, come on, babe, We've got this, 1:01:01.440 --> 1:01:03.439 like it's all good. And I love him more because 1:01:03.480 --> 1:01:05.360 of his struggle, which is so hard to say because 1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:07.960 he's not here anymore. But he was just so beautiful 1:01:08.120 --> 1:01:11.200 on the inside and out, and yeah, I just I 1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:12.720 couldn't love him anymore if I tried. 1:01:12.960 --> 1:01:17.000 Yeah, was there any kind of explanation or do you 1:01:17.080 --> 1:01:19.240 think he just wasn't ready to face a life on 1:01:19.360 --> 1:01:22.880 the outside like starting again? Was he still not walking 1:01:23.040 --> 1:01:25.000 or where do you think its stemmed from? After he's done, 1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:27.240 he seems to have done all the hard work you 1:01:27.280 --> 1:01:29.200 would literally, like you said you'd sign at least you're 1:01:29.240 --> 1:01:32.160 one day away from your life. What do you think happened? 1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:34.720 I don't know, and I think I've heard from a 1:01:34.720 --> 1:01:36.920 lot of I think we're called survivors of suicide, you know, 1:01:36.960 --> 1:01:39.240 when someone very close is passed away in that way, 1:01:39.320 --> 1:01:41.520 and there's so many different responses and it's such a 1:01:41.560 --> 1:01:44.360 relative experience, and I think it's such a personal experience. 1:01:44.880 --> 1:01:47.600 For Jim, it was so inexplicable. He was never going 1:01:47.680 --> 1:01:49.440 to be the guy that did that, Like Jim was 1:01:49.520 --> 1:01:51.440 never going to be the guy that did that, and 1:01:52.400 --> 1:01:55.320 so many stories out there like that, right, you know, smiling, depression, 1:01:55.360 --> 1:01:57.480 all that kind of stuff. He didn't have an existing 1:01:57.560 --> 1:02:01.000 mental health condition, he didn't see to be struggling. There 1:02:01.080 --> 1:02:04.040 was support available, all those sorts of things, but there 1:02:04.120 --> 1:02:05.760 was so much going on for him that I'm still 1:02:05.840 --> 1:02:08.080 learning about today. That still just gives me so much 1:02:08.120 --> 1:02:10.720 empathy for him and his struggle and all those sorts 1:02:10.720 --> 1:02:13.520 of things. And I think, even individually for both of us, 1:02:13.680 --> 1:02:16.080 we never know what another person is truly thinking, right, 1:02:16.320 --> 1:02:17.800 Like we can think that we do and we can 1:02:17.920 --> 1:02:19.600 say that this person is my everything and I know 1:02:19.680 --> 1:02:22.600 everything about them, but we all have little secrets like 1:02:22.720 --> 1:02:24.760 I do. I haven't told a lot of people certain 1:02:24.760 --> 1:02:26.880 parts about my life and things like that, and that's 1:02:26.960 --> 1:02:29.200 just because they're our own. And I don't think he 1:02:29.320 --> 1:02:33.160 wanted to share that outwardly with anyone. His mum and 1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:35.480 I were incredibly close, and she didn't see it. There 1:02:35.560 --> 1:02:37.960 was no warning sign or anything like that. His friends, 1:02:38.040 --> 1:02:40.440 you know, I feel like I just I exhausted them 1:02:40.720 --> 1:02:43.120 post his passing, just by calling them and going. But 1:02:43.800 --> 1:02:45.840 when that moment happened, could he have meant that? And 1:02:45.960 --> 1:02:48.680 it's like, well he could have, cath, but we don't know, mate, 1:02:48.760 --> 1:02:51.360 Like it's you know, and so I think he can 1:02:52.080 --> 1:02:54.880 run yourself into the ground, honestly, asking so many questions. 1:02:55.320 --> 1:02:57.960 All those photos that we've got together, are they and 1:02:58.040 --> 1:03:00.360 he's smiling in them? Does he mean that smile? Or 1:03:00.680 --> 1:03:02.280 was that moment a special to him as it was 1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:04.400 to me? And you rack your brain and you're never 1:03:04.480 --> 1:03:06.720 going to have the answers to that. For Jim, A 1:03:06.800 --> 1:03:08.160 lot of people say you must be angry, and I 1:03:08.240 --> 1:03:10.240 was like, absolutely not. Angry is not an emotion that 1:03:10.320 --> 1:03:12.920 I felt towards him, certainly at all. I felt a 1:03:12.960 --> 1:03:14.960 little bit of anger towards myself. You know, why did 1:03:15.080 --> 1:03:17.000 I not see that coming? And this is a fair 1:03:17.040 --> 1:03:19.920 while ago now, but no, it was If anything, I 1:03:20.000 --> 1:03:22.680 probably loved him more, not for any other reason than 1:03:22.840 --> 1:03:24.960 I just it was just so special. 1:03:25.160 --> 1:03:27.960 And yeah, how do you begin to heal from this? 1:03:28.280 --> 1:03:31.160 And I mean maybe you don't entirely, and maybe obviously 1:03:31.280 --> 1:03:33.280 that is where the kindest factory has come from. But 1:03:33.720 --> 1:03:36.840 what has contributed to you being able to overcome some 1:03:37.000 --> 1:03:38.280 of this and work through this? 1:03:39.240 --> 1:03:42.120 I'm still working through it now. You know, have recently 1:03:42.200 --> 1:03:44.400 re engaged with a psychologist and she's been wonderful and 1:03:44.680 --> 1:03:46.760 all that kind of stuff, and he's helping through other 1:03:46.840 --> 1:03:49.040 parts of that grief and trauma and all that kind 1:03:49.040 --> 1:03:51.440 of stuff. But initially that wasn't the answer for me. 1:03:51.640 --> 1:03:53.680 I'm still not sure if it is today. I'm still 1:03:53.680 --> 1:03:55.720 trying to find my way. It's nine nine years later, 1:03:55.880 --> 1:03:59.560 but I lasted ten months after his passing just ignoring 1:04:00.120 --> 1:04:03.080 my grief and the trauma that I went through in 1:04:03.200 --> 1:04:05.600 his passing and all those sorts of things. And then 1:04:05.640 --> 1:04:07.000 it just hit me like a ton of bricks. So 1:04:07.080 --> 1:04:08.840 I had to go back to rehab for a routine 1:04:08.920 --> 1:04:10.600 sort of check up. I walked past his room and 1:04:11.040 --> 1:04:13.280 just all hit me and it just all come crashing down, 1:04:13.360 --> 1:04:15.320 and I ended up going to the Gold Coast. Where 1:04:15.320 --> 1:04:17.240 would you just start this life together? I reconnected with 1:04:17.320 --> 1:04:19.320 his mom and all that kind of stuff, who I'd ignored, 1:04:19.400 --> 1:04:22.720 and she was such since passed, but she was such 1:04:22.760 --> 1:04:25.480 a wonderful woman. And then I felt so guilty for 1:04:25.560 --> 1:04:27.640 ignoring her, like, you know, she's lost her son and 1:04:27.840 --> 1:04:29.320 all that kind of stuff, and I just kept owning 1:04:29.480 --> 1:04:31.480 all this responsibility of it all, and I needed to 1:04:31.600 --> 1:04:33.800 let that go. And I think I'll always still feel 1:04:33.800 --> 1:04:36.200 a little bit responsible to work in progress. I think 1:04:36.240 --> 1:04:38.360 life is as well. But I went to the Gold 1:04:38.400 --> 1:04:40.480 Coast and I spent three weeks there just at that 1:04:40.640 --> 1:04:42.840 rock bottom, you know, like first I lose this stream 1:04:42.920 --> 1:04:45.360 of playing cricket, and then I lose the person who 1:04:45.400 --> 1:04:47.160 taught me there was so much more to life than cricket. 1:04:47.280 --> 1:04:50.560 And halfway through this three week period, I'm sat in 1:04:50.960 --> 1:04:54.040 Wendy was Jim's mum's name. I'm sat in her place, 1:04:54.120 --> 1:04:56.800 and on the coffee table was a piece of paper 1:04:56.960 --> 1:04:58.640 and a pen. I don't know why it was there 1:04:58.720 --> 1:05:00.240 or what compelled me to do what I did, but 1:05:01.160 --> 1:05:03.120 I just had that kind of moment where I was like, oh, 1:05:03.360 --> 1:05:04.960 I just started reflecting on a lot of things, and 1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:06.720 I picked up the pen and I just started writing. 1:05:06.760 --> 1:05:09.480 All these names kept and faces kept popping into my mind, 1:05:09.600 --> 1:05:12.240 and they were just names and faces of people who 1:05:12.320 --> 1:05:14.160 had helped me or shown up for me in my life. 1:05:14.240 --> 1:05:15.920 And I just started writing their names down. 1:05:15.800 --> 1:05:16.320 On this list. 1:05:16.520 --> 1:05:18.240 And it was a full shit at paper, like thirty 1:05:18.320 --> 1:05:20.240 names on it at the end. And then I don't 1:05:20.280 --> 1:05:21.800 know why I did it, but I'm so glad that 1:05:21.880 --> 1:05:24.000 it happened, because it really sort of, I guess, springboarded 1:05:24.200 --> 1:05:25.960 me into this next phase of life. I picked up 1:05:26.000 --> 1:05:28.479 my phone. I just started calling every person on this list. 1:05:28.560 --> 1:05:31.160 The first was like my doctor and he must have 1:05:31.200 --> 1:05:32.760 seen my name flash up on the screen and he's 1:05:32.760 --> 1:05:34.040 picked up at me and going, oh my god, what 1:05:34.080 --> 1:05:35.080 have you done? What have you broken? 1:05:35.200 --> 1:05:37.680 How do I help you to the hospital again? Please 1:05:37.720 --> 1:05:38.600 say Carl. 1:05:39.040 --> 1:05:40.840 I was like, no, Doc, that's not why i'm calling. 1:05:40.960 --> 1:05:43.160 It's I'm just calling and say thanks, like I don't 1:05:43.160 --> 1:05:45.200 think i'd be here without you, and you've had a 1:05:45.280 --> 1:05:47.120 huge impact on my life. Thank you for that. And 1:05:47.240 --> 1:05:50.520 he just went pardon, it's just like, Ca, you don't 1:05:50.520 --> 1:05:51.840 have to thank me, it's my job. And I was 1:05:51.880 --> 1:05:54.120 just like, well, I wanted to. So he said, look, 1:05:54.120 --> 1:05:56.480 before you hang up, I just I'm so glad to 1:05:56.520 --> 1:05:57.920 hear from you, to know that you're okay and you're 1:05:57.920 --> 1:06:00.160 going to be okay, and I'm really proud of you. 1:06:00.320 --> 1:06:02.680 And I said thanks, dork and hung up, and I 1:06:02.760 --> 1:06:05.320 just started calling all these people, family friends, anyone who 1:06:05.360 --> 1:06:07.880 had really shown up for me, and same response. Everyone 1:06:07.960 --> 1:06:10.640 was like, mate, I'm really stoked to hear that you're okay. 1:06:10.720 --> 1:06:12.760 And I was like, thanks, like, I think everything's going 1:06:12.800 --> 1:06:14.360 to be okay, guys, Like, I've got so many good 1:06:14.360 --> 1:06:17.120 people in my life, and I think that's why I'm 1:06:17.160 --> 1:06:19.120 so positive, Like people have always had belief in me, 1:06:19.240 --> 1:06:22.000 and I'm internally driven by the goodness of others and 1:06:22.160 --> 1:06:24.320 so them showing up for me always has shown so 1:06:24.480 --> 1:06:26.760 much faith. And yeah, I just I come back to 1:06:26.840 --> 1:06:29.200 Sydney after that, and I didn't know what life would 1:06:29.200 --> 1:06:31.400 look like. I didn't know who I wanted to be, 1:06:31.520 --> 1:06:32.760 you know, just because I was an athlete and I 1:06:32.800 --> 1:06:34.120 mean I had to be one and all that kind 1:06:34.120 --> 1:06:36.240 of stuff and yeah, cricket new stuff. Well, I was 1:06:36.280 --> 1:06:38.920 through my a lifeline in a sports admin job. And 1:06:39.000 --> 1:06:41.200 so I had this job then and I was going okay, 1:06:41.360 --> 1:06:43.040 Like physically I was I was pretty good too, And 1:06:43.360 --> 1:06:45.200 I got asked a lot of questions because everyone's like, 1:06:45.280 --> 1:06:48.640 holy moly, like twenty four and you've just been through 1:06:48.720 --> 1:06:51.400 these huge life hurdles. And a common question was like, 1:06:51.440 --> 1:06:53.520 if there's one thing that stands out, like, what is it? 1:06:53.760 --> 1:06:56.720 You know? No judgment, so good, bad, ugly, just say it. 1:06:56.880 --> 1:07:00.560 And I would always land on kindness, And I say kindness. 1:07:00.560 --> 1:07:02.920 It's not that, you know, interchangeable kindness with niceness. I 1:07:02.960 --> 1:07:05.360 think we need to differentiate the two of them, the 1:07:05.440 --> 1:07:08.560 strength in kindness and how I articulate that. When you've 1:07:08.560 --> 1:07:10.080 been in a wheelchair like I have been, and you 1:07:10.360 --> 1:07:12.560 can't reach a lift button and a random stranger walks 1:07:12.600 --> 1:07:14.880 past and they see that struggle and they press the 1:07:14.920 --> 1:07:17.080 button for you. It means absolutely nothing to their day, 1:07:17.080 --> 1:07:18.720 but it meant everything to yours because it allows you 1:07:18.760 --> 1:07:20.240 to get downstairs and do what you need to do 1:07:20.400 --> 1:07:22.800 or go where you need to go. Those moments matter, 1:07:23.080 --> 1:07:24.600 and we need to do more of it, not just 1:07:24.680 --> 1:07:27.200 when a person's in struggle. But you can't argue with 1:07:27.360 --> 1:07:29.920 kindness like it costs us nothing. Sometimes it's just a 1:07:29.960 --> 1:07:33.720 simple smile or a compliment someone or whatever it may be. 1:07:34.000 --> 1:07:36.960 But there is so much strength in kindness. Recently did 1:07:37.680 --> 1:07:41.680 study so engage a third party do research for us, 1:07:41.920 --> 1:07:44.600 and it was to study the impacts of kindness throughout 1:07:44.600 --> 1:07:49.160 the COVID pandemic. So arguably our most recent historical you know, 1:07:49.360 --> 1:07:52.560 adversity as a nation or the world really strange turned 1:07:52.600 --> 1:07:55.760 to kindness. So when we're in a struggle, we look 1:07:55.840 --> 1:07:58.240 for an opportunity to be kind and to receive kindness. 1:07:58.280 --> 1:08:00.320 It was connection with neighbors, or helping an able out, 1:08:00.520 --> 1:08:03.200 or giving someone a compliment, or calling someone and having 1:08:03.240 --> 1:08:05.200 a meaningful conversation and checking in on them, and all 1:08:05.240 --> 1:08:07.680 those sorts of things. And I'd encourage anyone as we 1:08:07.800 --> 1:08:10.080 re emerge. It's here, right, we're all starting to get 1:08:10.080 --> 1:08:12.480 out and about and stuff. If kindness is so powerful 1:08:12.560 --> 1:08:15.360 that we rely on it to survive, why not do 1:08:15.440 --> 1:08:17.600 it every single day that we're now opening up and 1:08:17.680 --> 1:08:19.320 doing all this kind of stuff. Let's not forget about it. 1:08:19.439 --> 1:08:22.280 It's so important. And I think anyone who's experienced the 1:08:22.360 --> 1:08:25.479 power of kindness think back. Everyone's received kindness everyone's given it. 1:08:25.560 --> 1:08:27.880 Think back to that time and how it made you feel. 1:08:28.120 --> 1:08:29.000 Let's just do more of it. 1:08:31.160 --> 1:08:34.920 So what is the kindness factory? What is it? What 1:08:35.080 --> 1:08:37.000 is it about? How do people get involved in it? 1:08:37.439 --> 1:08:39.519 Yeah, so how it started was as I said, come 1:08:39.560 --> 1:08:41.920 back to Sydney and everyone's like, oh, you know, what's 1:08:41.960 --> 1:08:43.799 the one thing that stands out? And it was always kindness. 1:08:43.800 --> 1:08:45.000 So then I was like, well, hang on, if I'm 1:08:45.040 --> 1:08:46.960 telling people this, like, why an't I doing it? If 1:08:46.960 --> 1:08:49.000 I've received so much and it's on me, I'm well 1:08:49.120 --> 1:08:50.320 enough now to be able to do that. So I 1:08:50.400 --> 1:08:53.120 just started doing random things for people, like, I whatt 1:08:53.160 --> 1:08:55.920 a hairdresser dinner? One night, I just walk past the street, 1:08:56.000 --> 1:08:57.640 I'm going to go some dinner. Do you want Something's like? 1:08:57.720 --> 1:09:02.280 Parton this is So we had dinner. He's like, why 1:09:02.280 --> 1:09:03.439 are you doing this? I was like, oh, So I 1:09:03.439 --> 1:09:05.599 told him a bit about my stories, like holy shit, 1:09:06.080 --> 1:09:08.679 so this is a great dinner. And he's like, well, okay, 1:09:08.800 --> 1:09:10.560 I'm going to cut people's hair for free once a 1:09:10.640 --> 1:09:12.240 week now like and so he does that, and so 1:09:12.640 --> 1:09:15.720 it got quite catchy. Bought a random person you know, 1:09:15.760 --> 1:09:18.400 they're petrol and she had been through the most horrific 1:09:18.439 --> 1:09:20.360 stuff in life and she's now, you know, doing kind 1:09:20.439 --> 1:09:22.320 things as well. And so it was nothing more than that. 1:09:22.439 --> 1:09:24.479 And I had a great job and all of that 1:09:24.600 --> 1:09:27.800 kind of stuff, and I guess I launched it just 1:09:27.880 --> 1:09:29.519 on that fromis I just wanted to give back some 1:09:29.600 --> 1:09:31.439 of the kindness because I've experienced so much. And I 1:09:31.560 --> 1:09:34.400 launched it on Well Kindness Day, which is also Jim's anniversary, 1:09:34.520 --> 1:09:37.760 the thirteenth of novembery in twenty fifteen, so six years 1:09:37.760 --> 1:09:40.240 ago nearly. And it was never going to be anything 1:09:40.320 --> 1:09:42.200 apart from a side project and a bit of a 1:09:42.240 --> 1:09:46.879 social media page of goodness essentially, And what really exploded 1:09:46.920 --> 1:09:48.200 it was I guess that there was a bit more 1:09:48.400 --> 1:09:51.280 life adversity to follow. So three months into that journey, 1:09:51.680 --> 1:09:54.000 I was going really really well emotionally spiritually, you know, 1:09:54.320 --> 1:09:56.840 I'd raise all this money for charity and found purpose 1:09:56.880 --> 1:09:59.160 again through kindness, just doing things for other people. And 1:09:59.240 --> 1:10:02.280 that's how my life life made sense to me. And yeah, 1:10:02.320 --> 1:10:05.040 physically gone really really well. I went back to rehab 1:10:05.200 --> 1:10:07.439 throughout this period and just st a you know, they 1:10:07.479 --> 1:10:09.200 were like, we're ready to discharge you for life. Any 1:10:09.280 --> 1:10:11.719 questions before you do, and I said, I've got one question, 1:10:12.479 --> 1:10:14.280 miss Cricket. So it was part of who I am. 1:10:14.439 --> 1:10:16.400 I can't feel my left leg still, that's just something 1:10:16.439 --> 1:10:17.840 that will never come back. Now, I said, so I 1:10:17.920 --> 1:10:21.439 can't do that anymore because it's skills based. Anything else 1:10:21.479 --> 1:10:23.479 I could do And they said, oh, look, your recovery 1:10:23.560 --> 1:10:24.800 is based in a pool and on a bike. If 1:10:24.840 --> 1:10:26.040 you were to adding a run, you could be like 1:10:26.080 --> 1:10:27.640 a paratry athlete. Do you want to give that a go? 1:10:27.720 --> 1:10:30.080 I was like, oh, okay, So I signed up for 1:10:30.080 --> 1:10:32.160 a test. I loved it. It was great I could 1:10:32.160 --> 1:10:34.679 get into this. So ended up being the first passon 1:10:34.720 --> 1:10:36.600 with my disability to do a half iron Man, so 1:10:36.640 --> 1:10:38.719 it was a pretty big deal. I did in twenty fifteen. 1:10:38.760 --> 1:10:41.680 It was wonderful with my brother and did so well 1:10:41.720 --> 1:10:43.200 at that that I got to tick it into a 1:10:43.280 --> 1:10:46.240 full lirone Man, to be completed in May twenty sixteen 1:10:46.479 --> 1:10:47.960 and fittest I've ever been in my life. So a 1:10:48.000 --> 1:10:50.759 full line Man's a four k swim basically one hundred 1:10:50.760 --> 1:10:52.840 and eighty kilometer bike ride and a full marathon at 1:10:52.840 --> 1:10:53.640 the end forty two k. 1:10:53.800 --> 1:10:56.519 So and you've got one leg and this I couldn't 1:10:56.520 --> 1:10:58.800 do it too. Yeah, literally, and this is just full 1:10:58.840 --> 1:10:59.840 blown You're getting out there and. 1:10:59.840 --> 1:11:02.120 Do it, just doing it. Yeah, I just loved it, 1:11:02.360 --> 1:11:05.120 so yeah, I had that ticket to do it in 1:11:05.200 --> 1:11:08.479 Port McCrary May twenty sixteen and training's on track, fittest 1:11:08.479 --> 1:11:09.920 I have ever been in my life. And it's the 1:11:09.960 --> 1:11:11.880 tenth of January. With my two best mates. I was 1:11:11.920 --> 1:11:15.200 going to go from Cronulla on a bike ride to Manly, 1:11:15.360 --> 1:11:18.360 have Brecky and go back, so ninety kilometers nothing in 1:11:18.400 --> 1:11:20.320 the grand scheme of the training. And I get to 1:11:20.400 --> 1:11:23.080 the north side of the Sydney Harbor Bridge and I 1:11:23.160 --> 1:11:25.920 start sort of getting towards a right hand turn lane 1:11:25.960 --> 1:11:28.120 to make my descend into the Northern beaches and just 1:11:28.160 --> 1:11:31.400 feel this start on my body and everything just goes black. 1:11:32.080 --> 1:11:34.439 I got hit by a drunk d diver from behind 1:11:34.600 --> 1:11:36.759 and broke back again. 1:11:38.680 --> 1:11:41.400 And broke your back where the surgery had been or 1:11:41.439 --> 1:11:42.400 in a different plane, no. 1:11:42.560 --> 1:11:44.880 All around that. So I both broke my back in 1:11:44.960 --> 1:11:48.799 four places, so thoracic, a little bit of lumber sacral. 1:11:48.840 --> 1:11:52.160 I dissicated my neck so c spine, broke my left 1:11:52.240 --> 1:11:55.080 hip so shattered, and broke my right wrist and then yeah, 1:11:55.080 --> 1:11:57.600 I woke up two weeks later to the news I 1:11:57.680 --> 1:12:00.120 was paralyzed and told them I'd never walk again, the 1:12:00.160 --> 1:12:01.200 second time in my life. 1:12:01.400 --> 1:12:03.040 So pretty down and out. 1:12:03.160 --> 1:12:06.200 You know, it was in a coma for a lengthy period. 1:12:06.240 --> 1:12:07.880 Mom and Dad had to make all sorts of tough 1:12:07.920 --> 1:12:11.639 decisions about life support, all that kind of stuff. And yeah, 1:12:11.640 --> 1:12:14.679 I wake up from that six weeks in ICU, fighting 1:12:14.720 --> 1:12:18.280 off infection, and it was horrific. The injuries were really substantial. 1:12:18.400 --> 1:12:21.519 And I woke up to all these texts and emails 1:12:21.600 --> 1:12:24.439 and inbox messages and whatever it may be where people 1:12:24.479 --> 1:12:27.679 had heard what had happened, and they just started writing 1:12:27.720 --> 1:12:30.320 to me, going, made, I'm so sorry about your accident, 1:12:30.439 --> 1:12:31.840 because if you wanted to let you know that today 1:12:31.840 --> 1:12:34.439 I made my neighbor's lawn, or I donated blood, or 1:12:35.080 --> 1:12:37.000 I tied my sister's shoes. So all these people sending 1:12:37.000 --> 1:12:38.840 me these acts of kindness because I recognized that I 1:12:38.920 --> 1:12:40.519 was no longer in a position to do what I 1:12:40.640 --> 1:12:42.120 was doing, and so they were like, well, I can 1:12:42.200 --> 1:12:44.160 do that, like and so it got quite catchy. And 1:12:44.680 --> 1:12:46.280 in that hospital bed, I spoke to the guy had 1:12:46.320 --> 1:12:48.720 sort of done our web website pro bono, and I said, look, 1:12:48.760 --> 1:12:50.519 let's flip it. I've got like hundreds of thousands of 1:12:50.560 --> 1:12:52.600 these acts off people, and it was almost impossible for 1:12:52.680 --> 1:12:54.479 me to have a bad day. Like I'm there facing 1:12:54.520 --> 1:12:57.479 a very lengthy rehab period again, everyone's telling me I'm 1:12:57.479 --> 1:12:58.760 not going to walk again, and I had to fight 1:12:58.800 --> 1:13:01.680 against that in my head every single day. And then 1:13:01.720 --> 1:13:03.560 hear all these people from all around the world just 1:13:03.560 --> 1:13:05.160 sending me acts of kindness and I was like, this 1:13:05.320 --> 1:13:08.200 is incredible, and again just couldn't Yeah, I couldn't really 1:13:08.400 --> 1:13:11.240 get out like that positive sort of thinking just kept 1:13:11.280 --> 1:13:13.320 hitting me because all these people. I was like, well, yeah, 1:13:13.320 --> 1:13:14.880 I'm having a bad day, but like, look at all 1:13:14.920 --> 1:13:17.559 these people up to it was really cool. So yeah, 1:13:17.640 --> 1:13:19.920 so that's sort of how the Kindness Factory was born. 1:13:20.040 --> 1:13:22.559 I guess where it then become a people driven movement 1:13:22.760 --> 1:13:25.040 where people from all around the world just wanted to 1:13:25.320 --> 1:13:27.400 engage with kindness just because it was the right thing 1:13:27.479 --> 1:13:29.920 to do and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, 1:13:29.960 --> 1:13:32.519 I spent six weeks in ICU and hospital and all that, 1:13:32.560 --> 1:13:34.560 and then I went on to rehab and walked and 1:13:34.640 --> 1:13:36.800 taught myself how to walk again. When everyone kept telling 1:13:36.840 --> 1:13:39.840 me I wouldn't. I got quite experimental with it as well. 1:13:40.400 --> 1:13:42.800 Not long after that accident, So maybe eight months after 1:13:42.880 --> 1:13:45.320 that accident, I was faced with a bit of a 1:13:45.640 --> 1:13:47.439 you know, an ethical dilemma or I had to face them, 1:13:47.479 --> 1:13:49.160 and it hit me with his car in court and 1:13:49.880 --> 1:13:51.479 it might be a story for another day unless we 1:13:51.479 --> 1:13:54.160 want to flesh it out. But what I realized through 1:13:54.200 --> 1:13:57.120 his behavior, which I can't change, was that kindness had 1:13:57.160 --> 1:13:58.960 saved my life once. Why couldn't it again? So I 1:13:59.000 --> 1:14:01.080 went on too social media, which gets so many bad 1:14:01.160 --> 1:14:04.000 wraps and for many good reasons, because sometimes it's really toxic. 1:14:04.120 --> 1:14:06.080 But when news for good, I think it can do 1:14:06.160 --> 1:14:08.559 a lot of good. And hopefully that's what kindness factually 1:14:08.600 --> 1:14:10.680 starting to do as well. I just went on. I said, look, 1:14:10.680 --> 1:14:12.479 I'm leaving my home with nothing but the clothes on 1:14:12.560 --> 1:14:14.720 my back on this day, at this time, no cash, 1:14:14.800 --> 1:14:17.040 no credit card, no food, no water, and I'm not 1:14:17.080 --> 1:14:19.120 going to accept help off immediate family or friends. I 1:14:19.200 --> 1:14:21.519 need to accept help only off strangers to feed me, 1:14:21.720 --> 1:14:23.479 to house me, to get me from A to B 1:14:23.560 --> 1:14:26.479 wherever this journey takes me. And ended up on news 1:14:26.720 --> 1:14:29.439 channels all around the world had ten thousand people reach 1:14:29.479 --> 1:14:32.639 out and say, look, oh help y'all, like come and yeah, why. 1:14:32.920 --> 1:14:38.000 I am shook. I'm shook to the core. Where were 1:14:38.080 --> 1:14:40.519 you at your in your recovery process at this time 1:14:40.600 --> 1:14:44.000 when you decided to go on this endeavor of I'm 1:14:44.080 --> 1:14:45.880 just going to go out on my own and figure 1:14:45.920 --> 1:14:48.000 it out and hope that people are good to me? 1:14:48.520 --> 1:14:49.800 Were you walking? Were you not? 1:14:49.960 --> 1:14:50.000 Like? 1:14:50.040 --> 1:14:52.040 Where were you in your recovery? I was walking, but 1:14:52.160 --> 1:14:53.719 I was still a long way off all the people 1:14:53.760 --> 1:14:55.439 that cared about me, Like, mane, this is a bad idea. 1:14:56.640 --> 1:14:58.720 You're going to hear someone's basement and you can you 1:14:58.760 --> 1:14:59.599 please just sit still? 1:14:59.840 --> 1:15:01.479 Like my dad was a cop for forty years. He 1:15:01.520 --> 1:15:04.160 put a GPS tracker on my backpack and he did. Yeah. 1:15:04.200 --> 1:15:07.280 I took a toothbrush with me and essential Yeah. 1:15:07.439 --> 1:15:10.280 How long I'm just I'm just cops back. How long 1:15:10.439 --> 1:15:13.120 did this journey over trained? You get from A to 1:15:13.200 --> 1:15:15.400 B with only the kindness of strangers? How long did 1:15:15.439 --> 1:15:17.320 it last? So we're talking a week? Are we talking 1:15:17.800 --> 1:15:18.320 two months? 1:15:18.880 --> 1:15:19.200 Fuck? 1:15:20.640 --> 1:15:23.000 So you just had a random Okay, let me get 1:15:23.040 --> 1:15:25.040 this straight. You've gone out. You're like, I've got my toothbrush, 1:15:25.080 --> 1:15:27.760 I've got my backpack. Someone write to me and tell 1:15:27.800 --> 1:15:29.720 me I'm in Sydney. Someone writes to me, and then 1:15:29.760 --> 1:15:31.680 someone would say come to my house. I'll come pick 1:15:31.680 --> 1:15:32.599 you up. Is that how it worked? 1:15:32.920 --> 1:15:35.320 Again? Like I sort of just maybe I'm too much 1:15:35.360 --> 1:15:36.800 of a visionary or a dream mark, but I just 1:15:36.960 --> 1:15:38.439 say stuff and then I'm like, I'll figure it out 1:15:38.439 --> 1:15:40.680 along the way. And so I was like, I'll put 1:15:40.720 --> 1:15:42.479 it out there and I'll go in a week. And 1:15:42.640 --> 1:15:44.920 so all these people then started sending stuff, and then 1:15:45.000 --> 1:15:47.439 I was on the news and all of that, and 1:15:47.520 --> 1:15:49.080 heaps of people started writing to me. And so I 1:15:49.160 --> 1:15:50.880 was like, oh, I've got all these offers, but how 1:15:50.960 --> 1:15:53.439 do I he assist together? Because I'm like, in one day, 1:15:53.479 --> 1:15:55.000 I've got an offer in Perth and the next day 1:15:55.000 --> 1:15:56.439 I've got an offer in Sydney and all that. And 1:15:56.560 --> 1:15:58.800 so I started trying to map it a little bit, 1:15:58.840 --> 1:16:00.479 and I was going to be a very structure route 1:16:00.560 --> 1:16:03.240 and I'm just not structured. So I was like, well this, no, 1:16:03.439 --> 1:16:05.160 I don't want to do that. But then what I 1:16:05.320 --> 1:16:07.080 noticed throughout a lot of the people doing it had 1:16:07.120 --> 1:16:10.120 hips of friends helping me with that process. But was it. 1:16:10.200 --> 1:16:12.680 All these people, I guess wanting to help were a 1:16:12.760 --> 1:16:15.400 lot The vast majority of people reaching out had experienced 1:16:15.400 --> 1:16:19.880 some sort of adversity themselves, and it was the ones 1:16:19.920 --> 1:16:21.479 that sort of shared a bit about themselves and I 1:16:21.560 --> 1:16:23.360 was like, they seem quite special. I'm going to pick 1:16:23.360 --> 1:16:24.760 them for no other reason that I just want to 1:16:24.920 --> 1:16:27.720 hear their story or get some perspective or whatever. And 1:16:27.840 --> 1:16:29.960 so I just picked the ones that seemed really a 1:16:30.040 --> 1:16:33.120 bit deeper in their offer, and that was a really 1:16:33.160 --> 1:16:35.400 good thing to do, because the rest just worked itself out. So, 1:16:35.560 --> 1:16:37.040 like you know, the first day, I think I was 1:16:37.439 --> 1:16:39.720 in all areas of Sydney and I was like, how 1:16:39.800 --> 1:16:41.559 do I get though? If I've got zero cash, how 1:16:41.600 --> 1:16:43.240 do I get from A to B to start? Just 1:16:43.320 --> 1:16:46.080 to start? And then like a it was a luxurious 1:16:46.240 --> 1:16:48.280 like limousine company reached out and we're like, we're really 1:16:48.320 --> 1:16:50.240 inspired joannt us to just give you a driver when 1:16:50.280 --> 1:16:50.799 you're in Sydney. 1:16:50.800 --> 1:16:56.000 I was like, yeah, dragging around in a limo living 1:16:56.160 --> 1:16:59.120 like a boss. Why did you stop? Why did you 1:16:59.160 --> 1:17:00.600 get to the end of the two It should be 1:17:00.640 --> 1:17:02.400 like ten years old and he's still driving around in 1:17:02.400 --> 1:17:03.840 your wable. It was they're always like that. 1:17:04.000 --> 1:17:05.559 Like I mean, everyone started like I did a blog 1:17:05.640 --> 1:17:08.479 every day, and everyone got quite fascinated by the stories. 1:17:08.479 --> 1:17:10.760 And I realized like halfway through that I wasn't even 1:17:10.840 --> 1:17:13.680 telling my experience. I was telling these stories of There 1:17:13.760 --> 1:17:16.639 was one family who just it still blows my mind. 1:17:16.760 --> 1:17:18.400 So four of them, there was a family of I 1:17:18.439 --> 1:17:20.600 think it was eight, and four had reached out to 1:17:20.680 --> 1:17:22.479 me separately. They didn't know the other one had. They 1:17:22.560 --> 1:17:25.080 just had good bloody people, just good good folk. Yeah, 1:17:25.280 --> 1:17:28.840 and their story is mind blowing. And the dad of 1:17:28.880 --> 1:17:31.960 that family that you know, the leader of that family Surge. 1:17:32.000 --> 1:17:35.960 She was part of the Chilean dictatorship in nineteen eighty six, 1:17:36.439 --> 1:17:38.559 was in prison, tortured daily, all that kind of stuff. 1:17:38.600 --> 1:17:41.000 His wife broke him out. They got on a boat. 1:17:41.280 --> 1:17:43.479 They got on a boat, become pregnant on the boat. 1:17:43.800 --> 1:17:46.160 Land in Australia. So refugees, all that kind of stuff. 1:17:46.680 --> 1:17:49.040 And their message when they reached out wasn't like we 1:17:49.120 --> 1:17:51.519 can do all this kind of stuff. They're like, can 1:17:51.560 --> 1:17:53.760 we see you struggle and we want to help you. 1:17:54.040 --> 1:17:55.720 We can't give you much. You can sleep on the 1:17:55.760 --> 1:17:58.439 floor of our you know, whatever room, our child's room whatever, 1:17:58.600 --> 1:18:00.800 but we can give you was love, and I was like, 1:18:00.800 --> 1:18:02.479 I need to go there, like I'm going there and 1:18:02.520 --> 1:18:07.160 I need to know their story, and so overwhelmed, and 1:18:07.439 --> 1:18:10.439 I learned so much about adversity. Everyone sees my story 1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:12.960 is oh my god, again you get one Lens. I 1:18:13.000 --> 1:18:15.240 don't know any different, and I wouldn't change my life 1:18:15.280 --> 1:18:18.360 for anything. And my adversities aren't any greater than yours 1:18:18.520 --> 1:18:21.400 or anyone else's. Again, when we're in those moments, some 1:18:21.479 --> 1:18:23.839 of the bigger life adversities I've been through haven't impacted 1:18:23.880 --> 1:18:26.679 me anywhere near is some of the perceived smaller ones. 1:18:27.120 --> 1:18:28.600 I think it just depends where we're at in that 1:18:28.760 --> 1:18:30.280 moment in time and all that kind of stuff. 1:18:30.479 --> 1:18:34.400 Don't undersell your adversity, like you know, but our adversity 1:18:34.479 --> 1:18:36.600 is not anywhere near your adversity. And like, I know 1:18:37.120 --> 1:18:39.400 what you're trying to say, but you have for what 1:18:39.520 --> 1:18:41.560 you have gone through to where you are now and 1:18:41.640 --> 1:18:44.439 what you're doing is absolutely incredible. All I'm sitting here 1:18:44.520 --> 1:18:46.719 now is like, Brittany, don't you ever fucking complain about 1:18:46.720 --> 1:18:49.559 one thing? I was like, do do not? And that's 1:18:49.640 --> 1:18:51.800 also this ongoing gift you know to think that you 1:18:52.000 --> 1:18:54.800 can go through these challenges and come out of it 1:18:55.120 --> 1:18:57.719 with the mindset of what can I give to somebody 1:18:57.800 --> 1:19:00.400 else instead of you know, what can I do for 1:19:00.479 --> 1:19:04.320 myself to make myself better? It's so outward facing, which 1:19:04.400 --> 1:19:07.519 is what makes your story so much more beautiful in it. 1:19:08.040 --> 1:19:12.040 In this for somebody who is going through some huge 1:19:12.040 --> 1:19:14.360 adversity in their life. For somebody who's going through and maybe, 1:19:14.439 --> 1:19:16.360 like you said, maybe it's not that the physical thing 1:19:16.400 --> 1:19:18.639 they're going through is the adversity, Maybe they're going through 1:19:18.720 --> 1:19:22.320 some inner turmoil. But for somebody who's experiencing their own 1:19:22.600 --> 1:19:25.599 set of challenges, what is your greatest piece of advice? 1:19:25.720 --> 1:19:28.639 What is something that you think, God, I just wish 1:19:28.720 --> 1:19:30.320 that someone had said this to me or done this 1:19:30.479 --> 1:19:30.680 for me. 1:19:31.000 --> 1:19:31.439 What is that? 1:19:32.000 --> 1:19:35.280 I'd probably say two things. The first is acknowledge it, 1:19:35.680 --> 1:19:40.360 like own it, like you don't don't ever dismiss your adversity. 1:19:40.680 --> 1:19:42.800 And what the struggle is that you're going through, like 1:19:42.960 --> 1:19:44.920 it's there and it's right there with you at that 1:19:45.000 --> 1:19:47.200 moment in time, and that's okay. You don't have to 1:19:47.240 --> 1:19:50.439 have the answers right now, tomorrow or whatever. Just understand 1:19:50.479 --> 1:19:52.320 and believe that it's going to get better because it will. 1:19:52.880 --> 1:19:55.120 The second thing, And I do this a lot pre COVID. 1:19:55.120 --> 1:19:56.880 I was traveling the world is a speaker, and I 1:19:56.960 --> 1:19:58.960 get asked questions like this a lot, and I was like, well, 1:19:59.320 --> 1:20:01.000 this audience front of me, so there was one hundred 1:20:01.000 --> 1:20:02.960 people there just for the sake of a number, Can 1:20:03.040 --> 1:20:05.719 anyone right now put up their hand honestly and maybe 1:20:05.760 --> 1:20:07.479 to these listeners, can you put up or can you 1:20:07.520 --> 1:20:10.360 say to yourself honestly, I know what my five top 1:20:10.479 --> 1:20:13.120 values are as a person. So do I know who 1:20:13.240 --> 1:20:15.679 I am? What makes me tick? And not many people 1:20:15.720 --> 1:20:17.920 can honestly go I do. It takes you ten minutes 1:20:17.960 --> 1:20:19.720 to figure it out, right, So what's important to you? 1:20:19.960 --> 1:20:21.720 And I think the reason you need to understand what's 1:20:21.760 --> 1:20:23.560 important to you is because that can then help you 1:20:23.880 --> 1:20:25.400 climb out of that hole that you need to get 1:20:25.439 --> 1:20:27.640 out of. So for me, it'd be very different to 1:20:27.680 --> 1:20:30.120 you and to you and to anyone, right, because we're 1:20:30.120 --> 1:20:33.439 all so uniquely beautiful and different. For me, my values 1:20:33.479 --> 1:20:36.200 are a family and friends and loyalty and kindness and 1:20:36.240 --> 1:20:39.240 probably gratitude. Right, So when I can understand that, I 1:20:39.439 --> 1:20:41.280 know that in order for me if I'm having a 1:20:41.320 --> 1:20:42.720 bad day to get out of I probably should need 1:20:42.720 --> 1:20:44.320 to call a friend and say, hey, get me out 1:20:44.360 --> 1:20:46.160 of this, right or whatever. Or I just need to 1:20:46.360 --> 1:20:48.840 experience write down three things that I'm grateful for, or 1:20:48.920 --> 1:20:51.439 give someone kindness, or ask someone for kindness, or give 1:20:51.479 --> 1:20:53.960 me myself some kindness as well. And I think when 1:20:54.000 --> 1:20:56.880 we have that self awareness about who we are, adversity 1:20:56.920 --> 1:20:57.679 is so much easier. 1:20:57.920 --> 1:21:00.639 I think that's a really important point too. Reach out 1:21:00.720 --> 1:21:02.880 to people when you need the help, because like you 1:21:03.000 --> 1:21:05.200 at the start, obviously you've come full circle because you 1:21:05.280 --> 1:21:07.759 were the opposite. You'd rather drag yourself past your friends 1:21:07.920 --> 1:21:10.080 to the hospital as your leg's going to be amputator, 1:21:10.080 --> 1:21:12.439 as your leg's dying, then ask for help. I'm the same, 1:21:12.520 --> 1:21:15.320 like I would rather I screen calls. I'm really guilty 1:21:15.360 --> 1:21:16.920 of it. If if my friends and I'm upset, they 1:21:16.960 --> 1:21:18.720 try and call me, I screen them, Like I don't 1:21:18.720 --> 1:21:20.719 want to ask for help. I don't want to bother anyone. 1:21:21.080 --> 1:21:22.560 But I think there's a really big lesson in it, 1:21:22.600 --> 1:21:25.479 and there's so much power in vulnerability. And I hope 1:21:25.520 --> 1:21:28.320 everyone listening has taken something from Camuine. I know you've 1:21:28.360 --> 1:21:29.920 taken a lot of it. But I hope you realize 1:21:29.920 --> 1:21:31.640 that if you are in a place of struggle, the 1:21:31.680 --> 1:21:33.920 best thing you can do is reach out to somebody, anybody. 1:21:34.000 --> 1:21:36.000 It might be a stranger, it might be a family member, 1:21:36.360 --> 1:21:37.000 might be a friend. 1:21:37.240 --> 1:21:40.160 Yeah, I think connection's so important, for sure, and I'm 1:21:40.240 --> 1:21:42.559 so fortunate in that I've had people that have always 1:21:42.600 --> 1:21:44.560 had my back, for sure, but also the ones that 1:21:44.680 --> 1:21:46.840 have the really hard conversations with me, like I'm not 1:21:46.880 --> 1:21:48.640 going to come pick you up from rehab, or you 1:21:48.720 --> 1:21:51.519 need to be better than this. If I was turning 1:21:51.560 --> 1:21:53.360 to drinking, Not that I did that a lot or anything, 1:21:53.400 --> 1:21:54.560 but you know, back in the day, if I'd have 1:21:54.640 --> 1:21:56.560 too many drinks because I was trying to cope or 1:21:56.560 --> 1:21:58.000 something like that. If I be like, no, I'm calling 1:21:58.040 --> 1:21:59.880 you on your bullshit. Stop that you're better than this, 1:22:00.800 --> 1:22:02.400 kicking to gear, go get the help that you need, 1:22:02.520 --> 1:22:03.760 or whatever it is that you need to do, and 1:22:04.320 --> 1:22:07.160 those conversations that are vitally important when you're in a 1:22:07.200 --> 1:22:09.080 struggle in that you know you need to sometime be 1:22:09.160 --> 1:22:09.960 called on your bullshit. 1:22:10.479 --> 1:22:12.680 Yeah, I mean hard love and soft love at the 1:22:12.720 --> 1:22:15.680 same time. If somebody wants to get involved in the 1:22:15.760 --> 1:22:19.960 Kindness Factory. If somebody wants to be able to spread 1:22:20.040 --> 1:22:22.120 this as far and as wide as it can go, 1:22:22.760 --> 1:22:25.519 how can you know someone tap into the Kindness Factory. 1:22:25.560 --> 1:22:26.519 How can we be a part of it? 1:22:26.960 --> 1:22:29.519 It's so easy. It's not an exclusive club, Bony tread 1:22:29.680 --> 1:22:32.160 I mean the T shirt. 1:22:32.479 --> 1:22:34.400 I mean, Kath is sitting here wearing the T shirt 1:22:34.520 --> 1:22:34.760 right now. 1:22:35.600 --> 1:22:38.040 Yeah, I mean, just go onto our websites Kindness Factory 1:22:38.080 --> 1:22:39.360 dot com and you can long an act and that's 1:22:39.360 --> 1:22:41.400 how you can immediately And that's not for us. That's 1:22:41.439 --> 1:22:44.719 more like see someone help them or share the story 1:22:44.760 --> 1:22:47.000 of when someone's helped you from a kindness perspective and 1:22:47.040 --> 1:22:47.240 all that. 1:22:47.840 --> 1:22:48.040 Yeah. 1:22:48.080 --> 1:22:49.760 So like when I went on that journey, I then 1:22:49.880 --> 1:22:52.160 sort of ended up traveling the world because everyone to 1:22:52.200 --> 1:22:54.360 hear my story. And I'm not a fantastic figure. I've 1:22:54.400 --> 1:22:56.880 just got an interesting story to tell. And so that 1:22:56.960 --> 1:22:58.920 kept happening. I got quite busy, which was great. Quit 1:22:59.000 --> 1:23:01.240 my job did all that. But the Kindness Factory now 1:23:01.400 --> 1:23:04.639 is a charitable organization. It's now registering three countries, which 1:23:05.360 --> 1:23:06.960 I never really sit back and go I'm really proud 1:23:07.000 --> 1:23:09.280 of this, but I am. I landed myself in New 1:23:09.400 --> 1:23:12.479 York at this really high powered executive's office, and I was. 1:23:12.560 --> 1:23:16.519 Like, God, was it the Obama's again? Did you figure 1:23:16.560 --> 1:23:19.720 this one out? Not this time? 1:23:19.760 --> 1:23:21.320 But it was like the head of his major company, 1:23:21.400 --> 1:23:24.040 like probably one of the world's biggest companies. And I've 1:23:24.080 --> 1:23:26.479 been paid to be there. I've got flowing business class again, 1:23:26.520 --> 1:23:28.479 so that would have cost some upwards of thirty grand 1:23:28.520 --> 1:23:30.200 to get me there, right, And it's not about money 1:23:30.240 --> 1:23:32.280 or anything, but I'm like I get there and I 1:23:32.280 --> 1:23:33.720 was like, where should I set up for this talk? 1:23:33.800 --> 1:23:36.240 And they were like, no, what talk? And I'm like, well, 1:23:36.240 --> 1:23:38.960 You've paid for a speaking engagement. They're like, well, yeah, 1:23:39.000 --> 1:23:40.679 it's just with our you know, the guy that owns 1:23:40.720 --> 1:23:41.160 the company. 1:23:41.200 --> 1:23:42.599 And I was like, oh, one on one. 1:23:43.000 --> 1:23:44.680 So I was like sat in this office literally just 1:23:44.840 --> 1:23:46.720 doing this, having a conversation with this guy and he's 1:23:46.720 --> 1:23:48.360 asking me questions and I was like and I walk 1:23:48.400 --> 1:23:50.439 out and I'm like, well, what's am I We going 1:23:50.479 --> 1:23:52.519 to an amphitheater to do with the stuff? Talk? Like 1:23:52.600 --> 1:23:53.120 what's going on? 1:23:53.439 --> 1:23:54.559 Like I don't know if you know, but I speak 1:23:54.560 --> 1:23:58.599 to the Obamas. Where is the ground? I headline, I'm 1:23:58.640 --> 1:24:02.400 Michelle Obama And they were like, you're done, Like you literally, I. 1:24:02.439 --> 1:24:04.439 Was like, I've just float like thankfully I had other 1:24:04.520 --> 1:24:04.920 things to do. 1:24:05.040 --> 1:24:07.439 And I was like what, So can I just say 1:24:07.479 --> 1:24:09.120 it seems to be a recurring thing that you don't 1:24:09.120 --> 1:24:11.599 know what you're doing when you get to the who 1:24:11.680 --> 1:24:13.479 am I speaking to? What am I doing? And I 1:24:13.560 --> 1:24:15.479 was like, hello, Katy, You're like I'm there. No one 1:24:15.520 --> 1:24:16.360 seem to a run. 1:24:16.240 --> 1:24:18.479 Scheet for this still again, like back then, I didn't 1:24:18.479 --> 1:24:21.040 have like an assistant and all that. Like my chairman now, 1:24:21.520 --> 1:24:24.240 the chairman of the charity. He's he's quite well known 1:24:24.240 --> 1:24:26.639 in the business world and he rings me sometimes I'm 1:24:26.680 --> 1:24:28.400 overseas and he's like, what have you got on today? 1:24:28.400 --> 1:24:30.880 And I'm like, oh, he loves this story because he's like, 1:24:30.920 --> 1:24:33.200 you're in such a fool but this is why I 1:24:33.320 --> 1:24:34.800 love working with you. I was like, I've got a 1:24:34.880 --> 1:24:37.360 meeting with this company and he's like who is it? 1:24:37.479 --> 1:24:39.800 And I was like JP something and he's just like 1:24:40.000 --> 1:24:41.360 what And I was like, I don't know. I think 1:24:41.400 --> 1:24:43.519 it's a bank or and he's like I was like JP, 1:24:44.400 --> 1:24:46.760 and he's like JP Morgan Chase and I was like, yeah, 1:24:46.840 --> 1:24:48.840 he goes cat that's He's like fucking He. 1:24:50.320 --> 1:24:53.640 Like, mate, you don't pay me, but yeah, I know. 1:24:53.760 --> 1:24:55.439 So I'm having all these moments where I was like 1:24:55.760 --> 1:24:57.439 zero idea what I was doing. But I was like, 1:24:57.720 --> 1:24:59.040 when I walked out of that meeting, I was like, 1:24:59.120 --> 1:25:01.280 this is not why I pursued this, not to sit 1:25:01.360 --> 1:25:03.200 in a one on one meeting with a really wealthy man. 1:25:03.439 --> 1:25:05.240 I was like, I was a little bit ashamed of myself, 1:25:05.280 --> 1:25:07.240 and I was like, well, what do I want? It Like, 1:25:07.680 --> 1:25:09.320 I felt quite lost in the journey. So I was like, 1:25:09.320 --> 1:25:10.519 well what do I want? And I was like, I 1:25:10.600 --> 1:25:12.120 just want more kindness in the world. And so I 1:25:12.200 --> 1:25:14.080 was like, I need to approach kids. I need to 1:25:14.080 --> 1:25:16.800 get in front of kids and start this generational change 1:25:16.800 --> 1:25:19.599 of kindness. So the factory he's got like the log 1:25:19.720 --> 1:25:22.400 and you, adults and kids alike can get engaged with that, 1:25:22.479 --> 1:25:25.080 and we're about to roll out corporate programs in kindness 1:25:25.080 --> 1:25:26.680 and all that kind of stuff. Whi's been fantastic with 1:25:26.760 --> 1:25:30.280 some great organizations around that. But I went into all 1:25:30.320 --> 1:25:33.320 these school environments and people became very aware very quickly 1:25:33.360 --> 1:25:34.400 that I was doing it for free and all that 1:25:34.479 --> 1:25:35.840 kind of stuff. So I had this like backlog of 1:25:35.880 --> 1:25:37.400 six hundred schools. I was like, I'm never going to 1:25:37.439 --> 1:25:40.160 get to that many. And COVID struck and all these 1:25:40.240 --> 1:25:42.200 teachers were reaching out and I alert things from going 1:25:42.200 --> 1:25:44.639 into those school environments. And the first is that kids 1:25:44.720 --> 1:25:47.000 want to be kind. No one's born unkind, Like we 1:25:47.080 --> 1:25:48.560 all want to be kind, right, That's why I'm like, 1:25:48.680 --> 1:25:51.160 this should just be motoring on by itself, because we 1:25:51.240 --> 1:25:52.920 all are naturally inclined to be kind. 1:25:52.800 --> 1:25:54.880 And get them while they're young. Yeah, I mean. 1:25:54.800 --> 1:25:58.120 Sometimes adversity happens, or life experience or societal pressures, and 1:25:58.479 --> 1:25:59.840 when you see three year olds playing with they don't 1:25:59.840 --> 1:26:02.080 care what color skin you've got, or religion you are 1:26:02.120 --> 1:26:04.000 into and all that, so it creeps out of us 1:26:04.040 --> 1:26:05.599 somewhere along the way. So I was like, we need 1:26:05.640 --> 1:26:07.960 to get to one as early as possible. And yeah, 1:26:08.520 --> 1:26:10.240 every time I go into a school, the teachers will go, 1:26:10.320 --> 1:26:11.880 what can you leave us with? We've got access to 1:26:11.920 --> 1:26:14.240 these kids every day, like you can't come back tomorrow 1:26:14.280 --> 1:26:15.880 and foot we'd love you too, but you can't. And 1:26:15.960 --> 1:26:18.120 I was like, yeah, okay, that's true. And in a 1:26:18.280 --> 1:26:20.720 very reactive way, teachers would reach out and they say, look, 1:26:20.720 --> 1:26:23.160 can you come to our school because we actually lost 1:26:23.200 --> 1:26:25.800 a student to suicide. And it's of course I can, 1:26:25.960 --> 1:26:27.920 I'll drop everything and do it. But why does it 1:26:28.000 --> 1:26:29.479 take the loss of a student for you to pick 1:26:29.560 --> 1:26:32.080 up the phone like this is ridiculous. So I ends 1:26:32.160 --> 1:26:36.040 up sharing this predicament with Kaplan, who are an education provider, 1:26:36.240 --> 1:26:38.680 a global one, and they were very inspired by what 1:26:38.760 --> 1:26:40.280 I was trying to do, and so I said, look, 1:26:40.320 --> 1:26:42.080 I want to create a kindness curriculum that can go 1:26:42.120 --> 1:26:45.519 into schools, and so we ended up creating that and 1:26:45.920 --> 1:26:48.760 during COVID we launched it into sixty schools in Australia 1:26:49.520 --> 1:26:51.680 and it's now in congrats that's huge. Yeah, it's in 1:26:51.760 --> 1:26:54.240 three thousand now in Australia all around Australia, which has 1:26:54.280 --> 1:26:58.080 been fantastic, all online, which teaches the basic principles of kindness, 1:26:58.120 --> 1:27:01.760 so like things like perspective and attitude and positivity and 1:27:02.320 --> 1:27:05.000 empathy and all those sorts of things. And it's about 1:27:05.040 --> 1:27:07.000 to be launched into the US on well kind of 1:27:07.040 --> 1:27:09.160 stay this year and then the UK beyond that. And 1:27:09.439 --> 1:27:11.920 I feel like this journey now is one that I'm 1:27:11.960 --> 1:27:14.280 no longer in control of which I'm completely comfortable with 1:27:14.400 --> 1:27:16.160 I think the sky is the limit in terms of 1:27:16.400 --> 1:27:17.600 all that kind of stuff. But I guess is a 1:27:17.640 --> 1:27:20.160 really long way of me answering, how do people become involved? 1:27:20.240 --> 1:27:26.800 Please just be kind? Yeah, but we will. Yeah, it 1:27:26.800 --> 1:27:28.760 would be really silly not to mention that. 1:27:28.800 --> 1:27:28.960 Well. 1:27:29.040 --> 1:27:31.400 Kindness Day, as I mentioned, is the thirteenth of November, 1:27:31.600 --> 1:27:35.280 so this year, this week, this week, so it's this Saturday, 1:27:35.479 --> 1:27:37.720 thirteenth of November. And this year, I mean, the last 1:27:37.760 --> 1:27:39.800 two years we've broken world records for most sacks of 1:27:39.920 --> 1:27:42.000 kindness on platforms and all that kind of stuff. And 1:27:42.720 --> 1:27:45.160 this year, I guess the give back has almost been 1:27:45.280 --> 1:27:47.920 that we recognize it the power and the importance of 1:27:48.000 --> 1:27:50.760 kindness throughout COVID and as we re emerge, which want 1:27:50.840 --> 1:27:52.920 as many people to continue that for us. And so 1:27:53.080 --> 1:27:55.879 we know that, you know, the stats are overwhelmingly positive, 1:27:56.400 --> 1:28:00.240 positively lent towards kindness. So yeah, we're encouraging people are 1:28:00.800 --> 1:28:02.960 a QR code or we're calling it a KR code 1:28:03.120 --> 1:28:05.400 to scam that and you'll get prescribed and active kindness 1:28:05.439 --> 1:28:06.400 that you can do this Saturday. 1:28:06.680 --> 1:28:08.519 Oh so it'll tell you like buy a coffee for 1:28:08.680 --> 1:28:10.559 a friend or for a stranger or something. 1:28:10.360 --> 1:28:13.320 Yeah, it'll absolutely so. Yeah. So yeah, if you want 1:28:13.320 --> 1:28:15.479 to share the QR code, any listeners, please get amongst 1:28:15.560 --> 1:28:16.640 that on any platforms. 1:28:16.800 --> 1:28:19.080 We will put the QR code on our Instagram as well, 1:28:19.200 --> 1:28:21.920 so you guys can find it very easily. And if 1:28:21.960 --> 1:28:24.600 you want to partake in a random active kindness and 1:28:24.680 --> 1:28:27.439 world kind of stay, which we think you all should 1:28:27.479 --> 1:28:29.120 do not if you want to, I'm just going to 1:28:29.160 --> 1:28:30.880 call it out now. Let's we're all going to do it. 1:28:31.080 --> 1:28:34.320 Every person that is listening to this episode now on 1:28:34.479 --> 1:28:36.800 World Kindness Day or even today. It doesn't have to 1:28:36.840 --> 1:28:38.320 wait for the day. I want you to go out 1:28:38.479 --> 1:28:40.920 and do something kind, buy someone a coffee, give someone 1:28:40.960 --> 1:28:43.479 a compliment, do something for no reason, and like, don't 1:28:43.520 --> 1:28:45.400 pretend to do it, because we'll know you guys have 1:28:45.479 --> 1:28:46.680 got to go and do it. I'm going to go 1:28:46.720 --> 1:28:48.720 do it. We're going to start a thread on the 1:28:48.760 --> 1:28:51.040 Facebook group as well, which if you are not following, 1:28:51.080 --> 1:28:53.000 it's life on cut Discretion group, and then that way 1:28:53.040 --> 1:28:54.599 we can keep track of what you guys are doing 1:28:54.640 --> 1:28:57.240 as well. So I am just like, thank you, I 1:28:57.360 --> 1:28:59.519 cannot thank you enough for coming here today. I am 1:29:00.479 --> 1:29:03.000 I mean, I knew your story obviously because we got 1:29:03.040 --> 1:29:05.200 you on the podcast, We've researched it, but nothing could 1:29:05.200 --> 1:29:08.200 have prepared me for what you just told me. I'm 1:29:08.600 --> 1:29:11.320 I'm blown away and how far you have come and 1:29:11.360 --> 1:29:13.920 how positive you are. You are an absolute inspiration to 1:29:14.600 --> 1:29:16.760 I'm sure everybody that comes across you, and I know 1:29:16.920 --> 1:29:19.559 I'm leaving I'm one hundred leaving a better person from 1:29:19.600 --> 1:29:21.639 this interview today, So I couldn't ask for more. 1:29:22.120 --> 1:29:24.439 Ah, guys, there's been my pleasure. I've loved it. It's 1:29:24.479 --> 1:29:24.840 been great. 1:29:25.240 --> 1:29:28.040 Can you tell everyone where they can find you? So 1:29:28.320 --> 1:29:31.160 for anyone looking for it, it's your candles, your handles 1:29:31.200 --> 1:29:33.720 on Instagram, the website. Let us know where they can 1:29:33.800 --> 1:29:34.080 find you. 1:29:34.280 --> 1:29:37.840 Yeah, so me personally, it's just Cath kocil, so koshl 1:29:37.920 --> 1:29:40.479 and kat H's Cath. I think it's like Facebook. I'm 1:29:40.520 --> 1:29:43.280 not again, just not really driven by socials but on them. 1:29:43.560 --> 1:29:45.839 And then obviously Kindness Factory is just at Kindness Factory 1:29:46.040 --> 1:29:47.600 or one word all that kind of stuff, but or 1:29:47.760 --> 1:29:50.360 Kindnessfactory dot com is the website for the most important 1:29:50.400 --> 1:29:52.439 part of logging your act as well, of course, but. 1:29:52.800 --> 1:29:55.080 We will link. We'll put all CA's details and everything 1:29:55.120 --> 1:29:56.519 will be in the show notes if you guys want 1:29:56.560 --> 1:29:59.160 to go and track it down and share your active kindness. 1:29:59.320 --> 1:30:00.720 Thank you so much much of being a part of 1:30:00.760 --> 1:30:02.640 the podcast. Kat, We absolutely loved it. 1:30:02.800 --> 1:30:04.000 Nah me too. It's been awesome. 1:30:05.040 --> 1:30:07.800 We never end an episode without our sucking, our sweet, 1:30:07.880 --> 1:30:10.200 our highlight and our lowlight. The best and the worst 1:30:10.280 --> 1:30:12.720 of the week, Laura, do you want to kick it off? 1:30:12.800 --> 1:30:15.040 What is your suck of the week? Okay, my suck 1:30:15.160 --> 1:30:17.040 of the week. Oh, you guys already know the suck 1:30:17.080 --> 1:30:19.280 of the week. The suck of the week was having 1:30:19.439 --> 1:30:22.000 a creepy man sitting in his car watching me taking 1:30:22.040 --> 1:30:24.840 photos of you taking photos of me. And if you're 1:30:24.880 --> 1:30:27.000 that creepy man and you listen to Life Fung, don't 1:30:27.040 --> 1:30:31.240 shame on you taking photos of someone's family. Honestly, that 1:30:31.360 --> 1:30:33.760 was my suck. I was so excited about the house. 1:30:34.400 --> 1:30:35.840 If I knew someone was going to take photos of me, 1:30:35.880 --> 1:30:38.120 I would have brushed my hair and yeah, I just 1:30:38.240 --> 1:30:40.400 didn't want that to be plasted all over the news. 1:30:40.520 --> 1:30:43.320 But anyway, that's that was a suck. The sweet, though, 1:30:44.040 --> 1:30:47.320 was really really amazing. So when I was in Byron, 1:30:47.520 --> 1:30:49.599 this woman named Sammy reached out to me on Instagram. 1:30:49.720 --> 1:30:52.400 She is a lifer. This is also a sweet and 1:30:52.479 --> 1:30:53.120 a recommendation. 1:30:53.280 --> 1:30:53.519 Guys. 1:30:53.800 --> 1:30:55.960 She has a business called the Candid Files, and she 1:30:56.120 --> 1:30:59.759 takes photos of kids, like she takes beautiful family photos. 1:30:59.800 --> 1:31:01.360 And she reached out and was like, oh, you know, 1:31:01.680 --> 1:31:03.120 while you're in Byron, would you like to come and 1:31:03.160 --> 1:31:06.439 have some photos taken. I did not expect them to 1:31:06.600 --> 1:31:09.559 be as crazy amazing as what they are. I've seen them. 1:31:09.560 --> 1:31:11.600 They're pretty amazing. And I know that Samy's going to 1:31:11.640 --> 1:31:14.360 be listening to this because she is a lifer. So 1:31:14.520 --> 1:31:16.600 if you guys, if you're going to Byron and you 1:31:16.720 --> 1:31:18.639 have kids and you want to get some beautiful family 1:31:18.640 --> 1:31:20.920 photos taken, She's got a gorgeous little studio in the 1:31:20.960 --> 1:31:22.960 industrial estate. I'm going to put some of them on 1:31:23.000 --> 1:31:24.639 my Instagram because I'm just so in love with them. 1:31:24.720 --> 1:31:27.080 But honestly, it was just one of those moments where 1:31:27.439 --> 1:31:29.120 one I got to meet someone who was part of 1:31:29.200 --> 1:31:31.720 our community, and two I was like wow, like they're 1:31:31.720 --> 1:31:34.960 actually really beautiful, so talented, and it's so incredible to 1:31:35.040 --> 1:31:37.240 have stunning photos of your kids, like to be able 1:31:37.280 --> 1:31:39.439 to hold onto those memories, and yeah, I got them 1:31:39.520 --> 1:31:40.680 last night. And I was going through them and I 1:31:40.800 --> 1:31:43.160 was like, God, my kids are beautiful, sending them to 1:31:43.200 --> 1:31:44.960 everyone who's like, we don't care as much as you do, 1:31:45.160 --> 1:31:47.760 but they're amazing. Okay, So does everybody have to use 1:31:47.800 --> 1:31:51.080 their investigative skills and find Sammy on their own? Or 1:31:51.240 --> 1:31:52.160 what is Sammy's handle? 1:31:52.479 --> 1:31:54.200 It is? I tell you hold on? 1:31:54.240 --> 1:31:57.120 Where where's my phone? Okay? For anyone who wants to know, 1:31:57.360 --> 1:31:58.680 or if you're going to Byron and you want to 1:31:58.720 --> 1:32:01.960 book her, it is the care ended files on Instagram. 1:32:02.080 --> 1:32:04.320 I like that name. Yeah, super cute. Look there's a 1:32:04.320 --> 1:32:07.960 photo of money. Cute Brittany. What is your suck? My 1:32:08.080 --> 1:32:10.800 suck and my suite are tied into the same thing, 1:32:10.960 --> 1:32:13.120 and I'll say my sweet first because that leads into 1:32:13.120 --> 1:32:15.560 the suck. I went back to Port Macquarie just for 1:32:15.640 --> 1:32:18.240 the weekend for a flying visit to see my parents 1:32:18.320 --> 1:32:20.960 and my brother, my niece and nephew. I haven't seen 1:32:21.040 --> 1:32:22.880 them in I don't think I've seen my parents in 1:32:23.000 --> 1:32:26.080 like seven or eight months, which is crazy. We speak 1:32:26.120 --> 1:32:27.560 all the time, but we haven't seen each other. So 1:32:27.600 --> 1:32:31.360 that was really really nice. My suck was driving back. 1:32:31.479 --> 1:32:33.640 I just didn't think it didn't even clock that this 1:32:33.840 --> 1:32:36.840 was the first weekend everyone was allowed to like travel 1:32:36.880 --> 1:32:40.840 out of the jurisdiction didn't even register. On the way 1:32:40.880 --> 1:32:42.960 back from probably what should have been a four hour trip, 1:32:43.000 --> 1:32:44.720 it took me like seven and a half hours. The 1:32:44.800 --> 1:32:47.080 traffic was backed up as long as I could see. 1:32:47.680 --> 1:32:50.600 The rain was torrential, to the point that I was 1:32:50.680 --> 1:32:52.479 like this, someone's gonna have an accident. You could see 1:32:52.600 --> 1:32:54.840 every three lanes were driving with their hazards on. You 1:32:54.880 --> 1:32:56.600 can only see two meters ahead of you. You know 1:32:56.720 --> 1:32:58.800 that traffic where you're like I can't even pull. I 1:32:58.840 --> 1:33:00.599 can't even see where I could pull ouse you're three 1:33:00.640 --> 1:33:02.840 lanes deep. You just have to crawl at like twenty 1:33:02.880 --> 1:33:07.320 thirty kilometers. So that was my suck, And yeah, that 1:33:07.439 --> 1:33:09.760 was it. Otherwise as a really uneventful, just like a 1:33:09.840 --> 1:33:13.200 really wholesome family weekend away. What an anticlimactic way of 1:33:13.320 --> 1:33:15.960 finishing off. We've been a really special couple of days. Though, 1:33:16.080 --> 1:33:17.840 I was like, this is fuck, this is cool, Like 1:33:18.040 --> 1:33:20.479 every body in Australia just wants everybody in New South 1:33:20.520 --> 1:33:22.360 Wales just wants to get out and see the world out. 1:33:22.720 --> 1:33:25.519 But it did mean that everyone in New South Wales 1:33:25.640 --> 1:33:28.800 was out with their family. So that's really nice. All 1:33:28.840 --> 1:33:32.200 the silver lining, guys, we hope that you love the episode. Honestly, 1:33:32.360 --> 1:33:34.800 we really would love all of you all to take 1:33:34.880 --> 1:33:36.960 a little piece of this episode and go and do 1:33:37.240 --> 1:33:40.000 a random active kindness for someone this week. 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Actually I was gonna say 1:34:09.040 --> 1:34:10.920 we'll see on Thursday for Ask on Cut. But on 1:34:11.240 --> 1:34:15.080 Wednesday tomorrow, guys, there is an episode, a little bonus episode. 1:34:15.120 --> 1:34:16.360 It has been a long time coming. 1:34:16.600 --> 1:34:17.200 It is my. 1:34:17.880 --> 1:34:20.880 Interview and I use the word interview loosely. It's my 1:34:21.320 --> 1:34:24.439 chat with I don't even know if I love it, 1:34:25.200 --> 1:34:27.400 but yeah, with the other half, Jordan. You guys have 1:34:27.520 --> 1:34:29.920 wanted an episode to meet Jordan, see what all the 1:34:30.000 --> 1:34:32.160 fuss is about, just find out a little bit more 1:34:32.160 --> 1:34:35.280 about him. I want to say, reluctantly did the podcast. 1:34:35.560 --> 1:34:37.439 He was excited to do it for me because he 1:34:37.520 --> 1:34:40.880 makes it happy. But as you're here, he is. He 1:34:40.960 --> 1:34:43.320 doesn't love interviews. He did his best. He was great. 1:34:43.360 --> 1:34:44.880 But I hope you guys love him. I hope you 1:34:45.000 --> 1:34:47.640 learned something from him, and I just hope you I 1:34:47.680 --> 1:34:49.800 don't know's I feel like I'm sharing a bit of 1:34:49.840 --> 1:34:51.920 my life that I haven't really shared with you guys before. 1:34:51.960 --> 1:34:54.880 I think for Laura and Matt. Matt's always on the pod. 1:34:54.960 --> 1:34:57.439 He's such a public figure, and Jordan is a public figure, 1:34:57.640 --> 1:35:00.040 but he's not big on socials. He doesn't share a 1:35:00.080 --> 1:35:02.800 lot of his life, so everything that he's sharing now 1:35:03.040 --> 1:35:05.200 is really really big for him. So yeah, I'm excited 1:35:05.240 --> 1:35:06.960 for you guys to hear it. That's dropping tomorrow if 1:35:07.000 --> 1:35:10.040 you're interested. I love that you did this episode. I 1:35:10.160 --> 1:35:11.640 love that you're able to give a little bit of 1:35:11.680 --> 1:35:14.040 an insight into your relationship to our listeners. Because like 1:35:14.080 --> 1:35:16.360 you said, you know, Matt is just like he is 1:35:16.439 --> 1:35:19.080 a like an old piece of furniture on this podcast now, 1:35:20.880 --> 1:35:22.800 and like this is something that's part of Matt's world. 1:35:22.800 --> 1:35:25.800 Whereas for Jordan, I think it's really special that he 1:35:25.800 --> 1:35:27.880 put himself out of his comfort zone to be able 1:35:27.960 --> 1:35:30.240 to do a podcast because it's not something that he 1:35:30.400 --> 1:35:32.680 felt comfortable doing, and it is something that required a 1:35:32.720 --> 1:35:36.040 little bit of positive coercion from Britney. I'd give him 1:35:36.040 --> 1:35:38.000 a reward. He was like a dog. You gave him 1:35:38.000 --> 1:35:40.200 a blowy afterwards. 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