WEBVTT - SHANE JACOBSON TALKS TALENT ON 'A.G.T!' 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:02.720 TV Reload the. 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:03.600 Podcast last week. 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:06.920 Welcome back to TV Reload. My name is Benjamin Norris 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:09.320 and on this podcast I go behind the scenes with 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:12.760 the biggest players in television. Each episode you will get 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:17.320 a front row seat with content makers like executive producers, writers, 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:20.439 editors and casting agents, plus the talent that we see 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.880 on our screens. TV Reload reloads the shows that you 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.000 are currently watching and gives you a better insight into 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.200 our television industry and our streaming services. 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:30.840 Today. 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:33.720 On the podcast, I have one of this year's judges 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:37.480 from AGT which starts this Sunday night at seven pm 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.960 on Channel seven. It is the Delightful, the Charming, the 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:45.159 quint Essential Ossie Shane Jacobson. Shane joins the podcast to 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:48.120 discuss his role on the latest season and they have 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:52.280 some mind blowing acts set to wow our Australian audiences. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.440 You will hear the excitement in his voice as he 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.360 cannot wait for you all to watch this latest season. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.840 Side note, Dane Jacobson is one of my favorite Australian actors. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.440 I've loved him on stage on screen on TV shows, 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.119 but I've also always appreciated his love of the arts. 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.320 If you think Shane is a novice to the world 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.319 of entertainment, you might be surprised to hear just how 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.600 extensive his back catalog of work has been. As we 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.080 unpack some of the different jobs he's had over the 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:25.039 last four decades of continued work, I will ask Shane 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.720 what makes a good agt judge, who makes him giggle 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.440 between the auditions, which acts he looks forward to the most, 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.120 and how they plan to keep the live audit in 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:39.200 silent until the winner is revealed. However, let's get started 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.600 with today's guest. I'd like to welcome Shane Jacobson to 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:43.480 TV Reload. 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:51.960 So I've spent my life in the entertainment industry. Yeah, 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.280 it's not limited to just people being from Australia. 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:58.360 As Australia's premier funny man an a five winning star. 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.040 Part of me that goes, oh, please be really good. 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.160 I thought you were going to die and I don't 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.960 think I'm ever going to recover. When an actor leaves 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:12.960 the stage, you have to shake that off. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:15.600 Hello, welcome to Australia's Got Talent. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:18.639 It's not like we're saying get out of here and 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:19.960 never come back here. We don't say that. 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.040 Hi, Shane, thanks for being here on the podcast. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.000 My absolute pleasure. I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.120 I am a huge fan and I've been in your 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.760 audience for many years. This is probably going to say 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.400 a lot about how old I am, but I remember 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:40.080 the early groundswell of Kenny, you know, which now feels 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:41.160 like a lifetime ago. 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:45.160 Well for anyone sixteen years of age, it was a 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.880 lifetime ago because it was well it was it's been 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.760 fifteen sixteen. Well when we started filming, it was probably 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:54.040 seventeen years ago, eight years ago, so yeah, and it 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.080 probably came out I think it was two thousand and six. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.560 So yeah, a lot of water under the bridge since then. 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:02.120 But I also really appreciate you know, your passion for entertainment, 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:06.720 comedy and storytelling. I'm from Melbourne, so I've been going 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.720 to the sin Kilda Film Festival for decades and I've 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:14.200 always really appreciated your contribution to that festival over the years. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.880 Oh thank you. Yeah, Look, my brother. Truth is that 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.520 the passion for the sin Kilda Film Festival came from 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:21.440 my brother who used to put I mean god, you 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.200 put so many short films in and you would probably 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.960 remember that Kenny started off as a short film at 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:29.240 the sin Kilda Film Festival. 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:29.600 I know. 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.240 It was actually a reaction to Paul who runs the 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.240 sink Kilda Film Festival, who was involved in it for 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.200 so long, actually said to my brother years ago, you know, 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:39.880 what are you putting in this year? Because Clayton always 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:41.840 put something in and was always a bit of a 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.600 crowd favorite, to be honest, and he said, oh, look, 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:46.840 I'm thinking about this thing with my brother. So we 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.000 did the short film that got carried away, the short 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.200 film that we did for sin Kilda Film Festivals, forty 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.680 seven minutes from Memory forty six or forty seven minutes. 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:59.520 That was a long short and that one people's choice 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.960 and then Best Comedy. But that was the impetus to 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:04.920 then have it. You know, people keep saying you've got 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:06.560 to make that a feature, we want to see more, 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.880 And that was it was sin Kilda Film Festival that 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.400 really was kind of the colonel that ended up making 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:12.320 it turn into a feature. 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.160 Well, I always would somehow be sitting next to you. 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:16.760 I'm going to bring this up again later as well, 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.400 but I would somehow be sitting next to you and 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:22.359 Clayton and your family. But I always just for years 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.360 somehow we'd be sitting right next to you, all behind 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.680 you or in front of you, so it was it 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.919 was surreal. And this is all before Kenny. You know, 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.800 this is a very long, a long relationship that you 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:36.599 have a sinkild festival. But I bring this up because 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.479 I really think, you know, this is the reason for 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.800 you being so perfect for the role on AGT. You 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.120 know you've been in the position. You know, you've worked 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.720 hard crafting stories and have been judged, and I think 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.880 that makes you someone who gets it. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.680 Thanks for saying that it's funny. I've had a few. 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.599 I've heard reports and heard people say there was even 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.520 Spider every strame under the buses. You will Spider Everett's 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.400 footballer a radio host. I heard that he said on 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.400 a radio show up in Queensland or something. I have 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.719 no idea what we'd be watching that Kenny guy. You know, 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.080 what would he know about entertainment? 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:11.680 And I don't. 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.680 It's not people's job to know what you've done in 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.080 your life. But it's interesting I have even now that 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.960 I'm doing here Spray the musical as well, people have said, 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:20.479 you know, what do you do to what have you 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.880 done to prepare for having a go at doing music theater. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:24.680 I'm like, well, I haven't had to have a go 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:26.640 at it, you know. I started. I did at thirteen 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.080 years of amateur theater. I tap dance for two years. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.400 I had a band for two years. I've sung on albums. 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.680 I've sung at Carol's. I've done now I think six 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.840 or seven professional music theater performances and professional plays. I 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.920 don't know what of these now twenty movies. You know. 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.719 I've done a stand up comedy. I've been a corporate MC. 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.159 I used to do audience warm up, so you know 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:46.960 a version of stand up comedy where I had a 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.560 fresh audience every night for about seven years. And so yeah, 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.600 I've spent my whole life, you know. And and other 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.000 people's bands have performed, you know, both sung and m 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:58.120 seeded events. So I've spent my life in the entertainment industry, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.600 and like it is all of my life, you know, 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:02.680 I start my first you know, I've always joked that 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.440 my first performance was at eight, and then I used 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.240 to say it was actually about quarter past eight, but 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:11.520 who's county. But I've been on stage and my brother 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:13.280 being a director, you know, I used to appear in 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.200 his film projects, in short films when I was a kid, 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.640 you know. So yeah, and there's not there's not a 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.560 corner of it that I haven't played in. Also, I 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.359 used to do event management and did fireworks and I 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.600 was a lighting designer. So and I've worked. But you know, 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:30.200 I've been a house ticket theater venues and produced documentaries 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.479 and been a part of producing movies and now I 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.239 do theater production produce. I'm going into producing in theaters 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.560 as well. So there's not there's not a kind of 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.880 a corner of entertainment that I haven't played in, only 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.480 because I love it like it's it's my playground. And 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.040 if someone says, so, do you only play on the swings, No, 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.240 I play on the slide, playing on the hoops, you 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:48.920 know what I mean. So yeah, there's not a corner 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.080 of entertainment that I haven't tried to spend time in. So, 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.040 you know, I do think I know it well because 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.320 my mum had a dance school, my sisters were dancers, 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.400 my brother's a director, and my dad did stand up comedy, 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.280 you know, so it is our world and we come 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.120 from Carnival's so it's in our blood as well. 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.440 I mean it is, that's the best way to describe it. 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.480 It's in your blood. I even remember I worked at 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.280 the radio station I think it was Gold I was 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:14.440 working a Golden mix selling advertising in early two thousand 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.520 and I remember didn't you come in and voice a 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:17.680 character for a while? 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.400 I mean, yeah, she got a good memory. Yeah, So 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.440 I was on Gold FM for about a year, I 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.960 think a year. So I had a segment called the 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.640 sixty Minute Challenge, which was on Friday mornings with Sean 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.840 crossgrows and Jane Holmes. People who don't know who Jane 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.040 Holmes is, many people, many people would. She's a delightful woman. 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:38.920 She's actually there. She was the voice of Telstra when 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.640 you were on. That was Jane and the wonderful Sean Cross, 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.440 apart from being having an incredible career in radio. People 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.840 was of course and come on down on the prices, right, 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.000 That was Sean. So yeah, I had a segment on that. 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.920 But I also had a character called Sergio, who was 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:58.720 a beautician, wasn't It wasn't the sharpest till in the shed. 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.520 Dear old Sergio so yeah, I had a character that 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.840 is to ring him quite often for comments and he'd 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.880 usually get stuff wrong. So yeah, I did character stuff 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.560 and you're right, that would have been it would have 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:10.960 to have been twenty years ago sposed. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.200 Yeah, that's a long time ago. That's saying how old 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:17.000 we are? So great we're deleted from the podcast. 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:19.400 Yeah, like we shouldn't look at it. We shouldn't look 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.880 in the revision mirror because you realize how distant those 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.280 kind of sounds where that we drove through it. I'm 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:26.840 doing hairspray at the moment, and I had to say 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.880 to one of the cast members, Karmel, who plays my 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.360 daughter Tracy in the stage show. She said, a lady 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.440 brought some biscuits. She'd baked some biscuits which got sent backstage. 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:39.040 And she's actually does the audio describing for people who 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:40.800 are vision impaired that come and see the shots. It's 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.960 wonderful service where they can sit in the theater and 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.240 be immersed in the sound and the auspit. This wonderful, 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.440 sayssy Hill. Does the audio described so they can hear 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.360 what's happening on stage and have the sets described to them. Anyway, 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:53.680 she knows I'm doing the show and send some biscuits 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:55.520 to me and Todd McKenny. And someone said, oh, I 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.160 got some biscuits from a friend. I said yeah, and 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.480 they said, you know, what does she doing? I said, 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.400 she's here to the audio described. I said, but that's 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.160 actually not where I know her from. All I said, 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.040 is that how you met her? And I said no, 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.960 I used to do shows with her on stage forty 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.800 two years ago. And I had to say I had 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:12.920 to say that outlaud that I was performing with this 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.200 woman forty two years ago, which makes me a bit 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:16.880 older than forty two. I'm fifty two. You know. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.800 I only bring all of this up because of that fact. 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:21.640 You know, I had seen things in the media. I 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.600 had seen the comments. And for me, you are the 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:28.160 most capable person, because I always think when I think 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:30.320 of these judging shows, I'm like, who are these people 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.960 their natural instinct? Who are these people? Why are they 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.920 fit to judge others? But for you, you know, you 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.000 really do have the back catalog of work and you 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.960 have a rightful place to be there. But also I 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.320 think you as a person, you have a humility in 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.840 the way in which you can relate to those people. 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:50.079 Yeah, it is because inherently the truth is I think 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.840 good on them. Inherently for anyone that gets up there 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.800 and has a go. If they don't have talent, you know, 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.920 they're obviously not going to go further. But there was 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.839 no experience like experience. And the thing I love about 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:04.200 AGT is it's a huge format. It can launch a 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.160 career without doubt. I mean, it's a trampoline that can 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:11.080 literally springboard them along way into the future, straight to success. 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.439 If they don't have the skills, it'll let them know 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.480 in a hurry as well. But even if they're not 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.280 quite up to scratch skill wise, it is such a 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.400 big format that they get to walk out on a stage. 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.480 The sound crew are incredible, the lighting is next level. 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:28.000 They get hand delivered an enormous audience who are keen 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.440 to be entertained where they didn't have to advertise to 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.040 try and fill every seat. And I come from a 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.680 world where getting bums on seats is a big part 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.600 of that's what we do press and you know, trying 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.400 to get people in so that the producers get their 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.360 money back and we get paid. You know where the 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.200 expression chuckers comes from. You know when the actors looked 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.280 out through the curtain. If there was enough people there 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.800 to make enough money for them to actually get paid 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.520 that night, they would say chokers, meaning tonight we get 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.400 to eat chicken, not rice. You know, so getting people 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.920 in an auditorium is a very old part of of entertainment. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:00.440 And so they have an audience, seats filled, amazing lighting, 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.520 amazing stage management, they get to walk out and all 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.719 of that is, you know, is out there becking call 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.040 for about three or so minutes and they get their chance. So, 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:10.600 you know, I love that part of it, but I 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.360 do inherently think good on them for having a go. 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.520 And then from there, if they're good enough, they'll go 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.120 for it, and if they're not, the answer will be no, 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.280 it's a no, it's a no for now. You know, 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:20.880 if they've got a bit of a bit, you know, 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.000 a little bit of ability, go away and hone it. 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.120 And that's what all of us have to do, none 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.400 of us, you know, not many people get to walk 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.360 out on stage the first time and wow an audience 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:34.240 unless you have been home really honing your craft in 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.720 whatever it is. So if you go out there and 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.679 you get a mild response, that's Okay, that's that's experience, 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.600 and that is you know, so many people burn their 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.920 first batch of goms. You know, that's that's all part 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.040 of it. So you know, they should never be heartbroken, 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.280 and we're never angry or annoyed that they've come out 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:50.720 and had to go. Good on them, but they can 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.719 always come back and a lot of them do come back. 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:54.880 People should know a lot of them do come back 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:56.160 and do better. Well. 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.280 I think that that's some of these talent shows. You know, 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.200 people too of the world, you know, entering themselves into 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.520 these and we see some of that. How many seasons? 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:03.920 Is this? 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.080 This is your second season? Is that right? 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.400 It's that funny thing which you would know is it's 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.880 my second show, but it's my fourth season. And what 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.040 I mean by that is we had so many false starts, 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:18.080 I know, you know, we had so Neil Patrick Harris 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.760 and Alicia Dixon were here in Australia ready to go, 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.560 and then of course COVID happened and they got put 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.720 back on planes and we had a couple of false starts. 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:28.800 So it's the fourth time I've been supposed to do it. 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:30.079 It's the second time I've done. 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.120 It, hopefully to get paid for all of them. 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:35.200 I've got to do the show to get paid. 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:39.600 On the catch twenty two. You know Neil Patrick Harris, 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.000 you know that was a really good get for this 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.480 show and you obviously didn't get that chance. But he 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.320 was here in Australia. Did you. Did you get a 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.000 chance to meet him and have a chance. 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.160 No, No, it's the one that got away. I mean, 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.640 I'm I could not be more of a fan of 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.120 that man. I mean he he did the best opening 0:12:56.200 --> 0:13:01.079 of a Tony Awards ever, ever, ever, anyone can how 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:02.079 many times have you watched it? 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.640 I'm a gay man, so I have to watch it 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.719 like church, every Sunday. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.679 Every summer year. I might have you beat. I might 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.280 have watched it two days a week. I do it 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:11.240 on weekends day. 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.720 You know, so good though, and yeah, he gets here, 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:16.360 I mean I am. 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.440 I'm an insane fan of his. Like I was actually 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.880 worried about how I make come across when I meet him, 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:24.439 because you know, there's one. You know, it's hard when 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.240 you're a falling sick a fan to not just go 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.000 oh gods now, Patrigaris. So you know I had to. 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.120 I was I was practicing some cool faces which I 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.080 can't actually do, so I just I just looked a 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:38.080 little bit constipated. Yeah, but look, you know, I would 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.120 have given anything to meet him, but I was I 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.560 was inherently aware. I was just going to spend the 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.199 first twenty minutes telling him how amazing he was and 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.920 the Tony Awards. But he's acting everything. I just don't 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.360 think the guy can do any wrong. In fact, he 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:53.800 can't do anything wrong because I've seen him do everything right. 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.920 So that's it. I've done my research. He's the perfect human. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.200 Well, I think there was, you know, obviously more time 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.880 because of what had happened to find some amazing acts. 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.080 Because I've actually watched the first four episodes of this season, 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:11.400 and the show is actually quite amazing to watch. I 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.559 think we all because we're so familiar with the format, 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.480 we're like, oh, yeah, that show is coming back. But 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.880 it is a spectacle. It is something really engaging, and 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.640 you are watching these amazing, genuine moments that are mind 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:26.440 blowing and quite exhilarating. Can you tell me, like, what 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.720 was the most what was something that blew your expectations? 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.920 What's something that we're going to see that really blew 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:33.960 your expectations? 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.760 Yeah, there's a few. It's hard to pick one, and 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:42.680 especially in agt where as you know, anything can come 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.400 out on that stage. You know. You know there's a 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.600 guy that did motorbike stunts and everyone might say they've 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.360 seen it before, not as close as I got to 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:51.880 watch it. I've got to stand one underneath it. I'm 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:53.560 like mine. It was out in the dark at night 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.480 in the car park and I just went. I mean, honestly, 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:57.600 the stunts were incredible, and every time he landed I 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.760 kind of felt like someone just cheated death for the 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.640 same cold ender damon. You know, there's a dance group. 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:06.240 There's these girls that practice in like a cowshd like 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:09.120 like the shed wasn't tall enough for them to practice 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.120 their aerobic like when they're throat. They're the kind of 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:13.640 those kind of aerobic acts where they actually throw girls 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.760 in the air. The shed isn't that they rehearse in 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.160 like on some farm, isn't big enough for them to 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.080 be able to throw the kids as high as they do, 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:22.280 So they had to go out and do it in 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.440 a paddock. And then you know, you hear that and 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.880 then but we didn't know that backstory. Really. They kind 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.360 of said something. They said something to us just before 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.040 they came out. I think we actually practiced in a shed, 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:32.760 actually they did. They did tell us this before that, 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.880 and we're like, okay, well now we shouldn't expect too much. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:36.560 So there's some kids that have been run around in 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.320 the shed and they were you know, they were incredible. 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:44.920 There's also there's an act out of Tanzania. These they're brothers, 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:46.560 but I don't think they're actual brothers, but they call 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.080 themselves brothers and they do this balancing act and you 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.120 know they come from Tanzania. This was, as is, the 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.520 first time they've ever appeared on a show of this 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.280 caliber I think, at all, on any major stage, and 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.000 I couldn't quite get. I couldn't understand how they was 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.480 so polished. Like you know, I'd have said before, many 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.320 people don't get a chance to come out on a 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.160 stage and wow on their first attempt. They proved. They 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:11.040 proved us wrong. They proved otherwise. They're incredible, acro amazing 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:12.520 with the girls I was talking about. But there's also 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:17.160 some singers. But there's some magicians that magic. You know, 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.880 Magic's one of those things I think everyone feels the 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:21.840 same if someone comes to you with a deck of 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.240 cards at a party and says I've got a card trick. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.480 I think we, for the most part, and most of 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:30.280 us inherently go, oh god, please don't it. 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:31.360 It's like true, like. 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.440 We see someone walk into a room with a piano according, 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.000 you go, oh, don't tell me they're going to play it. 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:36.840 But when someone can do it well, you know what 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:38.880 I mean, piano according becomes something. You know. It's like 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.040 that joke, what's the difference between an onion and a 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.880 piano accordion? No one fries when you cut a piano 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.520 accordion enough, but when it's played incredibly well. The same 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.840 as bagpipes, you know what I mean. Like, when bag 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:53.320 pipes have played well, they become amazing. That's the reason 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:55.920 they exist. And then same with piano accordion, even the 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:57.440 recorder for that matter. You know what I mean, when 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.120 you hear someone play it properly, guys, that what it's 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.360 supposed to sound like. And we had some moments like 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.560 that again this year with Magic, where some people came 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.399 out and said, you know, and they walked out with 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.200 cards and yeah, there's this part of me that dies 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:12.239 and goes, oh, please, please be really good, because if 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.680 it's not really good, it tends to be really bad. 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:18.719 And so that it sounds terrible because it means I've 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.480 got a preconceived idea before they start. But it's not 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.240 that I think they're going to be bad. It's actually 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:25.359 me it's going please be good. And we've got them. 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.639 We've got some people who've had time during COVID to 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.920 hone their skills and they've spent more time in front 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.560 of the mirror getting it right, and it paid off. 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.560 There's a few brother acts this year actually, and like 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.320 I said, the Tans and Enboys, I don't think you're 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:44.480 actual brothers. But there's the Messudi brothers's. They were, I 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:48.320 mean visually they were Adonis's and they came out on 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.560