1 00:00:02,370 --> 00:00:05,010 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, and welcome to another episode of The Sit Down. 2 00:00:05,230 --> 00:00:07,150 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Trollope, a writer for ozopen.com. 3 00:00:07,590 --> 00:00:10,459 Speaker 2: And I'm Viv Christie, managing editor of Australian Tennis Magazine. 4 00:00:10,820 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Good to see you, Viv. Can you tell us why 5 00:00:12,380 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: we're sitting down with Mira Ondrava this week? 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: Well, I was lucky enough to sit down with Mira 7 00:00:17,220 --> 00:00:19,820 Speaker 2: at Wimbledon when I was there a few weeks ago. 8 00:00:20,090 --> 00:00:23,209 Speaker 2: And yeah, Mira is a great personality, as we know, 9 00:00:23,650 --> 00:00:26,410 Speaker 2: on the women's tour. You know, she brings a lot 10 00:00:26,450 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: of fighting spirit, big stage personality to All of her matches. 11 00:00:30,700 --> 00:00:32,500 Speaker 2: And yeah, she's just really one for us to keep 12 00:00:32,540 --> 00:00:32,900 Speaker 2: an eye on. 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: Good timing this week because she's just won an Olympic 14 00:00:35,659 --> 00:00:39,190 Speaker 1: silver medal with Diana Schneider in the women's doubles in Paris. 15 00:00:39,409 --> 00:00:40,950 Speaker 1: And also that was hot off the heels of her 16 00:00:40,970 --> 00:00:41,930 Speaker 1: first WTO title. 17 00:00:45,350 --> 00:00:47,629 Speaker 2: Mira, thank you for your time today. It's great to 18 00:00:47,710 --> 00:00:50,010 Speaker 2: have you as a guest on The Sit Down. I 19 00:00:50,050 --> 00:00:52,470 Speaker 2: wonder if you could start by sharing with our listeners 20 00:00:52,510 --> 00:00:54,570 Speaker 2: how you had your start in tennis. 21 00:00:55,870 --> 00:00:57,110 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. 22 00:00:58,230 --> 00:01:00,710 Speaker 4: I started playing tennis when I was six years old, 23 00:01:01,890 --> 00:01:05,860 Speaker 4: but I spent like three years before in the tennis 24 00:01:05,940 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 4: court because my older sister, she started playing as well. 25 00:01:09,620 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 4: She started when she was around five. And so, yeah, 26 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 4: since I'm three years old, I've been spending some time 27 00:01:16,900 --> 00:01:20,530 Speaker 4: on a tennis court. But I wish I would have 28 00:01:20,550 --> 00:01:23,670 Speaker 4: started earlier, but I remember that I couldn't hold a 29 00:01:23,709 --> 00:01:26,270 Speaker 4: racket in my hand. It was too heavy and it 30 00:01:27,050 --> 00:01:30,490 Speaker 4: would just keep falling down. So yeah, I started when 31 00:01:30,510 --> 00:01:34,850 Speaker 4: I was six. I started in Siberia, in Krasnoyarsk. It's 32 00:01:34,890 --> 00:01:36,490 Speaker 4: the city where we come from. 33 00:01:36,510 --> 00:01:40,250 Speaker 3: And yeah, that's basically it. 34 00:01:40,510 --> 00:01:45,209 Speaker 4: After we moved to south of Russia, the city named Sochi. 35 00:01:46,890 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 4: And since then, we lived there for five, six years. 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,860 Speaker 4: I don't know, almost three years now already. 37 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,890 Speaker 2: You started when you were six, as you say, and 38 00:01:59,940 --> 00:02:03,230 Speaker 2: now you're 17. So that's barely 10 years. And in 39 00:02:03,290 --> 00:02:05,990 Speaker 2: that time, you've had wins over top 10 opponents, including 40 00:02:06,010 --> 00:02:09,649 Speaker 2: your idol on Geber, and reached the semifinals at Roland Garros. 41 00:02:10,530 --> 00:02:11,930 Speaker 2: Does it ever feel like a bit of a dream? 42 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,859 Speaker 4: At first it did and it still feels like a 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:21,010 Speaker 4: dream of course because I've been watching these tournaments when 44 00:02:21,050 --> 00:02:24,550 Speaker 4: I was a kid on a TV having my. 45 00:02:24,470 --> 00:02:26,690 Speaker 3: Breakfast before I would go to school. 46 00:02:27,770 --> 00:02:30,709 Speaker 4: Of course, it feels like a dream to me to 47 00:02:31,169 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: be here and play all these tournaments. 48 00:02:34,380 --> 00:02:37,780 Speaker 3: But now I already get used to this a little bit. 49 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,139 Speaker 4: I start to feel the atmosphere more and I start 50 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,150 Speaker 4: to kind of feel like I start to belong here. 51 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:50,810 Speaker 4: It's not like I'm new anymore and like a new 52 00:02:52,750 --> 00:02:57,870 Speaker 4: surprise or something. So yeah, that felt like a dream, 53 00:02:58,030 --> 00:02:59,790 Speaker 4: but now I get used to this a little bit 54 00:02:59,830 --> 00:03:02,070 Speaker 4: more and it just feels like my life now. 55 00:03:02,530 --> 00:03:04,730 Speaker 2: You're joining us at Wimbledon where you reached the fourth 56 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:08,530 Speaker 2: round last year as a qualifier. How have you changed 57 00:03:08,590 --> 00:03:11,460 Speaker 2: as both a player and as a person since then? 58 00:03:13,370 --> 00:03:17,950 Speaker 4: Let's say as a player, I changed. I think I 59 00:03:17,990 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: became more aggressive and I know what I want on court. 60 00:03:23,900 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 4: It's not like I just go there and play and 61 00:03:28,100 --> 00:03:31,620 Speaker 4: try to enjoy and just win as many games as 62 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 4: I can. Now I go and I know what I 63 00:03:35,460 --> 00:03:39,580 Speaker 4: want and I know what I also need, if I 64 00:03:39,620 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 4: can say need. So yeah, I think that as a 65 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,750 Speaker 4: player I became more kind of straightforward and I feel 66 00:03:48,780 --> 00:03:52,820 Speaker 4: like this... not helps me but this is a bit 67 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,750 Speaker 4: of uh next level for me a bit of an 68 00:03:55,820 --> 00:04:00,090 Speaker 4: upgrade um yeah and as a person um yeah a 69 00:04:00,130 --> 00:04:01,990 Speaker 4: bit more mature as i said. 70 00:04:01,770 --> 00:04:06,050 Speaker 3: Once um and uh just um. 71 00:04:06,590 --> 00:04:09,090 Speaker 4: And that's it actually i'm still the same as i 72 00:04:09,150 --> 00:04:14,530 Speaker 4: was last year just maybe um a bit more yeah 73 00:04:14,550 --> 00:04:19,770 Speaker 4: mature and uh I don't say some crazy stuff anymore, 74 00:04:20,500 --> 00:04:22,060 Speaker 4: but still the same old Mira. 75 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,950 Speaker 2: In your upgrade as a player, as you call it, 76 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,460 Speaker 2: you reached the semifinals of Roland Garros. You had wins 77 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:31,810 Speaker 2: there over Victoria Azarenka and Irina Sabalenka. How do you 78 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:33,070 Speaker 2: look back on that experience? 79 00:04:34,130 --> 00:04:38,339 Speaker 4: Of course, looking back to that, it feels amazing, especially now. 80 00:04:38,910 --> 00:04:43,070 Speaker 4: If we start with the second round match against Azarenka, 81 00:04:43,770 --> 00:04:44,909 Speaker 4: a little thriller there. 82 00:04:44,930 --> 00:04:49,980 Speaker 3: I knew, I mean, Grand Slam champion, she is one. 83 00:04:50,620 --> 00:04:54,669 Speaker 4: A lot of tournaments, she has a lot of experience 84 00:04:54,930 --> 00:04:58,630 Speaker 4: and I just went on court and I was like, well, Mira, 85 00:04:58,770 --> 00:05:01,900 Speaker 4: you got to do your best to beat her. And 86 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: I felt like I did more than my best and 87 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,550 Speaker 4: it was an amazing match. We finished at 1 a.m. 88 00:05:08,750 --> 00:05:10,010 Speaker 3: It was the latest finish. 89 00:05:10,570 --> 00:05:14,270 Speaker 4: Of my career and looking back to that I'm really 90 00:05:14,330 --> 00:05:18,830 Speaker 4: really happy about that and that match I think I'm 91 00:05:18,850 --> 00:05:21,529 Speaker 4: going to remember it for a very very long time 92 00:05:22,310 --> 00:05:27,650 Speaker 4: and of course a match against Sabalenka is also kind 93 00:05:27,690 --> 00:05:30,410 Speaker 4: of a thriller for me but unfortunately I didn't really 94 00:05:30,450 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 4: have time to enjoy the moment when I was in 95 00:05:32,510 --> 00:05:36,350 Speaker 4: Paris Because we finished pretty late. And then next day 96 00:05:36,370 --> 00:05:39,529 Speaker 4: I had a semi-final to play. So I didn't really 97 00:05:39,690 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: have time to enjoy the moment there. But after I 98 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 4: took some time to just realize and understand what happened. 99 00:05:48,860 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 4: But now it doesn't seem to me like a surprise. 100 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,790 Speaker 4: I mean, of course it was a tough match. She 101 00:05:55,820 --> 00:05:59,510 Speaker 4: had some, I don't know, trouble with something. Probably her stomach. 102 00:06:00,710 --> 00:06:03,620 Speaker 4: And it was hard for me to play because... She 103 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: called the physio a few times and it's always hard 104 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,460 Speaker 4: to keep your focus on a game. So, yeah, I'm 105 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:16,550 Speaker 4: just happy about that win and, yeah, happy about everything 106 00:06:16,589 --> 00:06:18,310 Speaker 4: that I did during French Open. 107 00:06:18,770 --> 00:06:22,050 Speaker 2: And you're a very artistic and creative player. You're known 108 00:06:22,070 --> 00:06:25,099 Speaker 2: for being very intelligent on court. That draws a lot 109 00:06:25,140 --> 00:06:28,140 Speaker 2: of comparisons with Martina Hingis. How do you feel when 110 00:06:28,180 --> 00:06:29,740 Speaker 2: you're compared to Martina Hingis? 111 00:06:30,020 --> 00:06:33,659 Speaker 3: Well, I like that. It's not a bad comparison. Not 112 00:06:33,700 --> 00:06:34,660 Speaker 3: about comparement? 113 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:35,570 Speaker 2: Comparison, yes. 114 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: Comparison, yes. 115 00:06:36,540 --> 00:06:36,820 Speaker 4: Okay. 116 00:06:38,670 --> 00:06:39,810 Speaker 3: So, yeah, I like that. 117 00:06:40,010 --> 00:06:43,690 Speaker 4: I like that people see a bit of a same 118 00:06:43,830 --> 00:06:49,890 Speaker 4: kind of game between us because when I was younger, 119 00:06:50,210 --> 00:06:52,650 Speaker 4: I wanted to play like her because I felt like 120 00:06:52,690 --> 00:06:57,260 Speaker 4: we have pretty much same game style, but she was 121 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,300 Speaker 4: kind of more aggressive than me. 122 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,100 Speaker 3: Mia would like. 123 00:07:02,060 --> 00:07:04,650 Speaker 4: play the point and build the point until the last 124 00:07:04,710 --> 00:07:08,870 Speaker 4: moment on the baseline until the girl is dead there 125 00:07:09,430 --> 00:07:13,250 Speaker 4: running and me I would just finish the point and 126 00:07:13,470 --> 00:07:16,900 Speaker 4: her I feel like she she goes for it and 127 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: she tries to finish the ball at the net and 128 00:07:19,020 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 4: she's more aggressive but yeah it's it's really nice that 129 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 4: people compare us and they say some stuff they see 130 00:07:27,780 --> 00:07:33,429 Speaker 4: the same game style and Yeah, I like that. It's 131 00:07:33,490 --> 00:07:36,630 Speaker 4: not bad, you know, if people compare you to a 132 00:07:36,670 --> 00:07:40,350 Speaker 4: Grand Slam champion. So, yeah, it's nice to hear. 133 00:07:40,970 --> 00:07:44,410 Speaker 2: It's 30 years since your coach, Conchita Martins, won Wimbledon. 134 00:07:44,790 --> 00:07:46,210 Speaker 2: What has she told you about that time? 135 00:07:47,450 --> 00:07:53,910 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, first, of course, she's having a bit of 136 00:07:53,990 --> 00:07:58,130 Speaker 4: a flashback, this trip. And, yeah, we've talked a little 137 00:07:58,150 --> 00:08:02,050 Speaker 4: bit about that and I watched the final with her. 138 00:08:02,270 --> 00:08:05,630 Speaker 4: She said, so I put on the video from YouTube, 139 00:08:05,750 --> 00:08:08,570 Speaker 4: her final against Navratilova, and she's like, no, no, no, 140 00:08:08,770 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 4: don't watch this moment. Start from this score in the 141 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: second set. I was like, uh-huh, okay. And, of course, 142 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:21,140 Speaker 4: I put the moment that she didn't want on purpose. But, yeah, she, 143 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: of course, tells me about the way she played. But 144 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 4: I feel like she doesn't really like to talk about 145 00:08:27,380 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 4: it because maybe she doesn't want to feel old compared 146 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,230 Speaker 4: to me I don't know but yeah sometimes I just 147 00:08:33,370 --> 00:08:36,970 Speaker 4: ask her how did it feel like and what did 148 00:08:36,990 --> 00:08:39,090 Speaker 4: you do there and what did you do then and 149 00:08:39,690 --> 00:08:42,390 Speaker 4: yeah she shares some experience and emotions with me and 150 00:08:42,450 --> 00:08:45,150 Speaker 4: it's really really nice to hear what she was going 151 00:08:45,190 --> 00:08:50,620 Speaker 4: through that time and yeah she's gonna play Legends Mixed 152 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:55,580 Speaker 4: Doubles and she said don't you ever come to my 153 00:08:55,620 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 4: match I was like why but I want to support 154 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: you she's like No, I don't want to see you there. 155 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,980 Speaker 4: And so it'll be on a second week. I hope 156 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:07,500 Speaker 4: I'm still going to be here. And I have a plan. 157 00:09:07,540 --> 00:09:11,650 Speaker 4: I'm going to prepare a piece of paper, a huge 158 00:09:11,710 --> 00:09:15,490 Speaker 4: piece of paper. I will write Conchita Martinez, let's go. 159 00:09:15,510 --> 00:09:18,010 Speaker 4: And I will go to her match and I will 160 00:09:18,630 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: wave this piece of paper that says like that she 161 00:09:21,900 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 4: can see me and I will be her number one fan. 162 00:09:24,660 --> 00:09:28,670 Speaker 4: So yeah, that will be nice if we're still going 163 00:09:28,690 --> 00:09:29,189 Speaker 4: to be here. 164 00:09:29,590 --> 00:09:32,170 Speaker 3: That speaks a lot about the strength of your relationship. 165 00:09:32,470 --> 00:09:32,790 Speaker 4: Yes. 166 00:09:33,950 --> 00:09:37,660 Speaker 2: You've reached the second week of the Australian Open, Wimbledon 167 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: and Roland Garros. every grand slam surface which one do 168 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:42,660 Speaker 2: you most love to play on. 169 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: Uh well that's actually a really hard question before i 170 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,969 Speaker 4: would say clay right away but now i um when 171 00:09:51,990 --> 00:09:54,809 Speaker 4: i play on hard court i miss clay court so 172 00:09:54,850 --> 00:09:57,230 Speaker 4: much but when i play on clay court i want 173 00:09:57,250 --> 00:10:00,850 Speaker 4: to go back on hard court because um just like 174 00:10:00,970 --> 00:10:04,830 Speaker 4: the sound when somebody plays on hard court. But when 175 00:10:04,910 --> 00:10:07,990 Speaker 4: I play on hard or on clay, I want to 176 00:10:08,030 --> 00:10:11,970 Speaker 4: go on grass because I really like the sound when 177 00:10:12,790 --> 00:10:16,100 Speaker 4: the people play and when they move on court, it's 178 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 4: so soft and it actually depends. 179 00:10:21,059 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't even have a favorite service actually. 180 00:10:24,020 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: Because it also depends on a time and on how 181 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,190 Speaker 4: I feel. So yeah, it's a really complicated question for me. 182 00:10:31,890 --> 00:10:33,870 Speaker 4: But I would say that I love them all. 183 00:10:34,510 --> 00:10:37,150 Speaker 2: Are you still studying? And do you still hate chemistry? 184 00:10:38,490 --> 00:10:42,510 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I still study. But now, luckily, we have 185 00:10:42,890 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 4: summer holidays at school. Yeah, and I still don't really 186 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,730 Speaker 4: like chemistry. Because, well, that's really hard for me to 187 00:10:50,790 --> 00:10:52,949 Speaker 4: understand and I don't really have time to really go 188 00:10:53,130 --> 00:10:58,670 Speaker 4: into it. But yeah, probably when after, I don't know, 189 00:10:58,730 --> 00:11:03,910 Speaker 4: maybe when I finish my career, I will be like 40, 43. 190 00:11:03,910 --> 00:11:06,890 Speaker 4: Maybe then I will have a wish and desire to 191 00:11:07,030 --> 00:11:10,630 Speaker 4: go and study chemistry, but I don't think so. So yeah, 192 00:11:10,730 --> 00:11:14,390 Speaker 4: I'm still studying and luckily I don't have to do 193 00:11:14,470 --> 00:11:15,390 Speaker 4: anything now anymore. 194 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: We talked earlier in the year at Brisbane and you 195 00:11:18,540 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: were reading Gone with the Wind at the time. 196 00:11:20,620 --> 00:11:21,660 Speaker 3: Are you still reading? 197 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,179 Speaker 4: I'm reading the second part. Don't tell me what's going 198 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: to happen. 199 00:11:27,220 --> 00:11:29,100 Speaker 3: I enjoy reading sometimes. 200 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,699 Speaker 4: It really helps me to put some nervous moments aside 201 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:39,230 Speaker 4: and to focus. When I read, I think I have 202 00:11:39,260 --> 00:11:42,370 Speaker 4: a pretty good imagination. So when I read, I have 203 00:11:43,330 --> 00:11:47,449 Speaker 4: pictures and... everything in my head and I imagine that 204 00:11:47,490 --> 00:11:51,110 Speaker 4: I'm there and I'm reading and just looking at them 205 00:11:51,330 --> 00:11:55,340 Speaker 4: kind of like I'm with them so yes I sometimes 206 00:11:55,390 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: I really like to read and this is a very 207 00:11:58,580 --> 00:12:01,740 Speaker 4: very good book and I really really like it so 208 00:12:02,179 --> 00:12:03,700 Speaker 4: yes hopefully I can finish it soon. 209 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,980 Speaker 2: You've achieved such a lot in such a short amount 210 00:12:07,020 --> 00:12:09,069 Speaker 2: of time what's what's your tennis dream? 211 00:12:10,020 --> 00:12:14,809 Speaker 4: Well of course I think If you ask every tennis player, 212 00:12:14,910 --> 00:12:17,980 Speaker 4: they will say that their tennis dream probably to be 213 00:12:18,020 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: number one and to win a slam or to win Olympics. 214 00:12:23,260 --> 00:12:27,170 Speaker 4: But me, I would say that after I finish my career, 215 00:12:27,470 --> 00:12:31,110 Speaker 4: I just want to be remembered for a very, very 216 00:12:31,150 --> 00:12:34,209 Speaker 4: long time. And I want to be remembered as a 217 00:12:34,929 --> 00:12:39,890 Speaker 4: champion and as a player who never never give up 218 00:12:40,210 --> 00:12:43,690 Speaker 4: as a player who people look up to and i 219 00:12:43,750 --> 00:12:47,709 Speaker 4: would say that this is one of my dreams that 220 00:12:47,929 --> 00:12:52,870 Speaker 4: i really want to accomplish and i really want them 221 00:12:52,890 --> 00:12:57,130 Speaker 4: to happen so yeah that would be awesome. 222 00:13:00,570 --> 00:13:03,170 Speaker 2: Well, it was such a pleasure to catch up with 223 00:13:03,230 --> 00:13:06,860 Speaker 2: Mira at Wimbledon. She is such a wise head on 224 00:13:06,890 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 2: young shoulders. It's hard to believe that she only turned 225 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: 17 in April. And we see that in her tennis 226 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: and in her results. But at the same time, it's 227 00:13:15,059 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: really refreshing that she's still a teenager who studies, enjoys life, 228 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 2: reads in her spare time. 229 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,650 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. It was really cool to hear how 230 00:13:26,330 --> 00:13:29,429 Speaker 1: excited she was or grateful to have the time with you, 231 00:13:29,470 --> 00:13:31,209 Speaker 1: how she thanked you at the beginning of the interview. 232 00:13:31,630 --> 00:13:34,430 Speaker 1: And then she just does have a unique perspective. It's 233 00:13:34,450 --> 00:13:37,689 Speaker 1: that kind of curious, wide-eyed, but also, as you said, 234 00:13:37,730 --> 00:13:40,430 Speaker 1: mature for someone who's 17. It's just her answers are 235 00:13:40,470 --> 00:13:43,130 Speaker 1: quite unique in tennis media. When I listen to her speak, 236 00:13:43,429 --> 00:13:45,490 Speaker 1: there's something really refreshing about them. So I enjoyed that 237 00:13:45,510 --> 00:13:45,730 Speaker 1: a lot. 238 00:13:46,010 --> 00:13:47,930 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a lot of fun to do that. 239 00:13:48,010 --> 00:13:50,050 Speaker 2: And she also has a real gratitude as well. So 240 00:13:50,090 --> 00:13:51,170 Speaker 2: it's really lovely to see. 241 00:13:51,770 --> 00:13:53,410 Speaker 1: And on that note, you can join us again next 242 00:13:53,450 --> 00:13:55,580 Speaker 1: week for another episode of The Sit Down on Monday. 243 00:13:56,059 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: But if you'd like to hear more from me, I'll 244 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,820 Speaker 1: actually be back on Thursday hosting in place of John 245 00:13:59,860 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: for the AO Show Weekly. 246 00:14:01,420 --> 00:14:03,620 Speaker 2: Details for how to contact us are in the show notes. 247 00:14:03,780 --> 00:14:06,970 Speaker 2: And please remember to subscribe, rate and review. See you 248 00:14:06,990 --> 00:14:07,610 Speaker 2: next week, Matt. 249 00:14:07,730 --> 00:14:08,140 Speaker 4: See you then, Viv.