WEBVTT - TNC Review: Margarine 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:03.640 The last product review we did was all about butter 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:06.320 and it got so much engagement that we thought it 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.039 was time we followed on and made another product review 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:11.200 all about Marjorie. 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:11.720 Hi. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.480 I'm Susie burrowlean Wood and as two of Australia's leading dieticians, 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.599 we bring you the Nutrition Couch to product review, a 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.279 weekly chat on new products and old favorites that you 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.560 can find in the supermarket. And today, Leanne, you've gone 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:27.400 out and picked three different types of very popular margarines 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.120 and AUSSI supermarkets. I recognized all the different ones straight 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:33.159 away and why perhaps we would and maybe would not 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.360 recommend them for our clients. Now we will share on 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:41.120 the potty today that when we recently compiled our product 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.760 review manual, which has done incredibly well, we can't really 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.559 believe how many people are buying it and are interested 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:52.199 in product information. You had wanted to or not want to. 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:53.760 I shouldn't say and put you on the spot like that, 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.480 but we had discussed whether margarine should go, you know, 0:00:56.480 --> 0:01:00.279 and I was quite adamant that it didn't. And when 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.960 I feel strongly about something, I do tend to be 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:05.920 quite definite about it. And the reason I felt strongly 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:08.040 about it was that I felt it was a heavily 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.840 processed product that we shouldn't be saying that this is 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.520 our best favorite one, because if I'm really honest, I 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.880 would say it's in general, I try and discourage the 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:21.360 use of added spreads. So we agreed to sort of 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.759 we didn't want to be seen to be recommending margarine 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:25.920 because really the product guide, and if you haven't seen it, 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.400 you can see it on our website, the nutritioncouch dot com. 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.160 The product guide is really us pointing towards the products 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.120 that we know, love and use and recommend with our clients. 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.840 So there's no Margarine. I'll be very clear that I 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.120 go and say to my clients, I want you to 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.679 buy this one because I'm really, in general trying to 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.640 minimize added fat. And the reason I'm trying to do 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.160 that is that margarine doesn't really add a lot of 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.680 extra nutrition into the diet. So if we're looking at recommendations, 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.240 it would be like a dietitian saying what's the best 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.440 sugar to add to your tea, Whereas my position is 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:57.040 you better not to add sugar. So I'm not going 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.400 to recommend the best one and It's a little bit 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.160 similar for me with Marjorie. I say, look, if you 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.640 choose to have a spread on your toast or for 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.760 whatever reason, a small amount of any is probably okay. 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:11.160 And yeah, there are some that I would recommend or 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.440 even you know, full transparency them that I do have 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:15.640 at home first, say my kids sandwiches with a bit 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.440 of vegemite. So that was why it didn't appear in 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:21.040 the product manual. But as we know, it's a staple 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.560 product in supermarket and we did think it was really 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.280 important that we talked about it. Would you say, you're 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:27.240 on the same page as maybe one. 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.919 It's definitely something we need to minimize if people are 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:31.600 having it, you know, for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.040 don't think that's a good thing. And it doesn't necessarily 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:38.080 add anything positive in nutrition wise towards our health. And 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.120 same deal with butter. Butter's on the same level. You know, 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.760 a lot of people say, oh, it's grass fed, it's organic, 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.639 butter is better because the saturated fat's better, but not 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.640 necessarily Like to me, saturated fat is in the areas 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.280 in neutral fat like it's not positive like our avocado 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.560 or extraversional of all or our salmon, and same deal 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.160 with you know, the types of fats in margarines as well. 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.880 Sure it's not saturated, it's unsaturated, but we're not with 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.160 getting much positive nutrition towards our health because it is 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.680 so heavily processed. It's nothing like its original kind of form. 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.840 Put it that way, true, and we don't technically need it. 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.000 You know, when it comes to fats like extravergent, olive 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:12.760 oil or the fats in nuts and seas, there's a 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:16.560 functional role, whereas there's very little functional nutrition in margarine. 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:18.320 But it does play a role for a range of 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:21.079 different reasons. And so we've picked three really good products today. 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:22.680 I love the ones you've chosen because you've picked them 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:24.640 for really smart reasons. So the first one we're going 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:28.520 to check is the Nuttlex poly unsaturated margarine spread. So 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.720 Nutlex have a whole range of different products. 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:33.120 In the old days, they're always in a white container 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.520 NUTLEGX for anyone who grew up in the eighties. But 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.040 this one you'll know there's sort of a sunflower on 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.320 the label. There's also a blue light variety. There's an 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.880 olive oil one. There's several different ones of Nuttlex and 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.000 I love you've picked this one because it's one of 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:49.600 the only vegan, one hundred percent vegan plant based spreads, 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.920 because you just said to me one of the issues 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.200 is with a lot of margarines, they still include milk solids, 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.440 whereas this one is a vegan product, so that's interesting 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.040 to some of our listeners in general. This is from Woolli's, 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:00.720 but I know it's available in both. It was on 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:02.560 sale at the time we published this, but it was. 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.520 It retails for about five dollars twenty per container and 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.960 the containers five hundred grams, so it's quite large. It's 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:09.720 not one of those sort of half sized ones that 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.120 you may find made in Australia from at least seventy 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.000 seven percent of Australian ingredients, so it's stiry free, lactose free, 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:20.080 vegan and gluten free, so quite relevant to a number 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:24.000 of listeners in terms of dietary preferences or requirements. When 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.279 we look at the ingredient list or from vegetable sources, 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.720 the first ingredient is vegetable oils containing sunflower oil at 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:34.400 five percent. Now there's no overall description of the mix 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.440 of vegetable oil, which is a little bit concerning because 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.280 there's a massive sunflower on the front of the container 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.520 and it's saying it's got five percent only sunflower oil, 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.080 So I'm thinking what else is going in there? The 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.880 next ingredient's water, salt, and mulsifiers, which are simply used 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.880 to mix the product up. Some fower lessis than which 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:55.560 is very common in Marjorine natural flavor, and some vitamins 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.400 are added ad in natural color which has beta carotene, 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.200 which is fairly routine in Marjorie. Across the board, they'll 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.400 be forty five with certain essential nutrients. If we look 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.960 at the nutritionals per hundred grams, will compare as it's 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:11.080 a fat, added fat to the diet and four twenty 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.840 four hundred kilodeels, which is about six hundred calories per 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.480 hundred grams. A serve of margarine would we would suggest 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:19.720 normally be five grams, so just five percent of that. 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.760 But this is just to compare across brands sixty three 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.479 percent fat, which is actually reasonably low. You know, butter 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.240 spreadable butters and a lot of margarines in the old 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.080 days would be up to eighty percent, So this is 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.440 kind of a reduced fat variety. Sixteen point three percent 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.440 saturated fat, so not low in saturated fat, but relatively 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:41.320 low compared to butter. No carbohydrate sodium three forty milligrams 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:45.520 in one hundred gram container. So yeah, I think the 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:50.320 big concern for Melian is when it says vegetable oils 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.960 containing some fire oil. I can only assume it's not 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.200 at sixteen percent. I wouldn't say it's all palm. It's 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.440 probably a mix of different plant based oils. If it 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.840 was palm oil, I would suspect it would have a 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.200 much higher saturate of fat proportion that it has at 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.080 sixteen percent, So I'd be hastened to say it's probably 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:11.560 a mix of canola sunflower oil. In general, to me, 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.200 there's nothing outstanding about it. It's more a good option, 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.240 I guess for people who are vegan. It's lower in 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.440 fat than some added spreads. And yeah, for people with 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.440 certain dietary preferences are in tolerance, particularly lactose or dairy 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.480 free or neating vegan products, it probably ticks the box 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.880 for those people at a reasonable price point. 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:30.680 I just found it amusing that it's marketed as this 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.200 you know yellow tub yellow, you know yellow coloring, big 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.520 sunflare on the front of it. That's like five percent 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:39.039 somehow oil So bad marketing. 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.279 It's a really good example of how it can be 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.640 a little bit misleading when it comes to products, because 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.240 if they have a claim for an ingredient, like if 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:48.919 it says sunflower, it's got to have it listed how 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.120 much But it's only five percent, so there's not a 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:52.680 whole lot of sunflower going in there. 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:56.560 Yeah. So so nut Ale's original with soundfire oil with 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.679 which say minimal, very minimal. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.559 Not that sometow is so much better than all the others, 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:03.599 but I think it looks better, it looks healthier and 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.080 more happy because of the sun powers on the front. 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:08.359 And I think also that perception you know, nuts and 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.040 seeds are better types of fats and other type you know, 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.760 some other types of unsutradded fats, So I would you know, 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.320 naturally think oh, sunflower is probably a better choice, but 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.360 it's got such minimal in there, And you're right, like, 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.480 why if you're going to disclose how much sunflow oil 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:22.600 one I put on the other types of oils in 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.720 there as well. So nothing super positive about nutrition, but 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.440 it's a great option for those with allergies in tolerances, 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.840 dietary preferences. As you said, that's probably the biggest reason 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.680 we'd be recommending it for clients who don't eat dairy, 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.360 can't eat dairy, follow a vegan lifestyle, looking for something 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.520 that is good and free, and the sodium is quite 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.440 low as well. Yeah, that's probably the only really pros 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.360 I'd say, if you need it, by it. If not, 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.120 I mean, we're certainly not going to say there's healthier 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.360 margarines on the market, because they're all kind of the same. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.760 We're not looking for health ones. We're probably just looking 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.440 for one that sort of fits the budget, that's nice 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.360 and spreadable, it doesn't taste too bad if you're adding 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.680 it with your veggiemiter onto a sandwich for the kids, 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.400 and you know, we're just looking for you know, fairly, 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.960 I would say clean ingredient list, which I think most 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.080 of them would have, But although it's clean from an 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.240 ingredient perspective, it's not really adding in positive nutritional benefits. 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.240 So we're certainly not recommending you go nuts on it. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.840 But this one's fine to use in moderation if that's 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:15.440 what you choose. 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.840 True, and for full transparency, I probably go the notle 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.960 X Light myself. When I'm actually choosing why it's often 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.480 discounted as well, So I don't buy this or myself. 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.600 But if I do pick Anotherlex, it's usually the light 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.480 one for a range of reasons. It's a bit lighter, 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:29.480 and I think it's only forty percent of that for memory, 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.040 and it spreads really well too, which is a consideration, 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:34.760 all right. So the next one we're looking at is 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.400 the Olive Grove Classics spread at five hundred gram so 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.679 it was on again sale at time of publication, but 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.000 normally retails for about five dollars sixty five, so slightly 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:48.880 more expensive than the Nuttlex slightly forty cents more, and 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.240 again really tapping into the idea that it's olive oil 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.240 or olive base. So this is sixty percent vegetable oil 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.480 with a minimum nineteen percent olive oil, so much much 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.640 higher than the five percent earlier. Now, of course, olive 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.480 oil is a liquid fat, so it's not going to 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:06.360 be a high proportion because they need to make it 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.240 a solid fat through processing. That's what margarine is, so 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.120 hence there'll be a level of olliywool they can get 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.800 in there from both a cost perspective, but also just 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.000 functionally is able to solidify and make a solid type 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:20.360 of fat that you can spread water, salt, and mulsifier, 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.679 so very similar, which is just how you make obviously 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.680 margarine in the factory milk solid, so that's popping up 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.679 there to give it the thickness which you didn't see 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:29.760 in the nuttlex variety. So when we look at what 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:31.640 are they using to thicken it up, so it's some 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:33.960 flower methis and or be what they're using, I'd imagine 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.679 in the earlier product, which was vegan, so not using milk, solvents, 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.880 preservative to A two fairly standard for margarine food dusted 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.560 color margorines will always contain a color because they're just 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.440 looking like a murky gray when they're actually made. Vitamin's 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.200 A and D again mandatory fortification, but not listed for 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.240 that reason. And when we look at the calories, it's 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.200 twenty two hundred and twenty, so slightly less but not 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.839 significantly to the earlier product. There's someone grammar protein against 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:02.040 sixty percent fat and very similar percentage saturatedly and at 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.760 sixteen point two, which would make me feel that that's 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.520 the amount required to make it a solid fat given 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.240 that it's so standard across the range. That's the one 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.199 grammar carbohydrate is expected, and three hundred and forty milligrams 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.080 of sodium per hundred which is about thirty five per 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.800 five grams serve, which is also ten gram serve, so 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.320 not high and not low, just pretty standard for margarine. Again, 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.280 for me, i'd give it, you know, six out of ten. 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.360 It's not amazing, it's not bad. It's a pretty standard 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.679 margarine product that in the old days there used to 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.240 be olive grove light. I don't know if there still is. 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:34.959 I think it is still around. That's the one actually 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.280 having my fridge, so full disclosure, I am not really 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.679 a butter person. I prefer olive grove. I have a 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:41.560 light one. I think it's just I grew up with it, 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.400 Like it's always what we had in the fridge growing up. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.040 If I ever wanted some, like you know, vegimoi on toaster, 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.240 a little bit of butter on whatever I was eating, 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.199 which I didn't use too much of, but that's sort 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:51.600 of always what I have had, so I've always sort 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.200 of stuck with that. But until I really did my degree, 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.360 I didn't really read the labels too much. I find 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:59.040 it interesting. I was like Chakra when I first learned 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.440 that I was only nineteen per but then looking through 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.079 the other ranges, like you said, with the sunflower, it 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.400 was only like five percent, so nineteen percent is actually 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.280 quite a lot. And when you said, you know, olive 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.440 oil is a liquid at room temperature, of course there 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:12.600 can't be one hundred percent olive oil because it would 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.839 be a liquid spread like it has to be solidified. 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:16.880 It has to have some saturated fat in there to 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.480 actually solidify it. So nutrition panel wise, like, it's very 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.880 similar to the natterlex one, isn't it very similar like 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.840 the fat minimal carves, minimal protein, no fib and no 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.320 sugar and minimal you know, amounts of sodium as well. 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.960 So really the only difference is this one does contain 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.520 milk solids and a little bit probably of a better 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.800 fat percentage. But note that it's nineteen percent olive oil, 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.959 not nineteen percent extravergin olive oil. So we're not getting 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.400 the full range of really high quality antioxidants there. And 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.720 I would probably say the minimal antioxidants you are getting 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.840 a probably offset pie some of the saturated fat in there. Anyway, 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.320 And some of the preservatives and stuff, So you're certainly 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.240 not buying this for a health perspective, but it may 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.839 give a slightly better edge than some of the other 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:58.960 margarines on the market. Put it that way, true, I 0:11:59.000 --> 0:11:59.760 just had a little look. 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:03.080 So it's interesting, though, we am because the Natterlex Light product, 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:07.120 which I often buy, has got forty eight percent fat 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:11.760 versus sixty three, so what twenty five percent lighter? But 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:16.400 the Olive Grove Light is only like five grams less 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.559 than full fat. So this is sixty grams per hundred 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.920 of fat overall and fifty five for the light. So 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.240 that's a little bit misleading to It's not significantly lighter, 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.320 is it, Which I'm surprised. I thought it would have 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:27.640 been a lot lighter. 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.319 And I wonder if the milk solids are bumping that up. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.160 So for me, it's middle ground, not good, not bad. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.560 It's sort of it's clearly standard margarine, and i'd just 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.240 been encouraging my clients to use it sparingly if they're 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.720 looking for something for their toast or to spread on 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:43.040 kids sandwiches. All right, now, the final product, I'm so 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.160 glad we're talking about because when I was at University. 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.480 The cholesterol lowering plants are on margarines launched in Australia 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.920 and originally there was Logical which was a product I 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.640 think from Medal Lee in the day, and then also 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:59.560 for Proactive, which which is the competing brand. Now there 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.760 is now to my knowledge, only Floroproactive, which is an 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:06.560 international brand. And I also noticed just as we went 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.400 into this that when I went to Aldi, they had 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:12.559 the same similar product, obviously repackaged with a cholesterol lowering option. 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.840 So what is cholesterol lowering margarine? 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:16.200 So? 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:20.680 Plant sterols are a substance that are naturally found in 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.240 fruits and veggies, nuts and seeds, and when you concentrate 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.080 them to about two to three grams that can block 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.880 the uptake of cholesterol in the body. So these products 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.040 have been around in Europe for many years and basically 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.120 they're shown to clinically lower blood cholesterol levels because they 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.520 hop in the spot of cholesterol and cholesterol gets processed 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.800 out and they need some fat to be absorbed, so 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.840 they'll generally be in a dairy product something else with fat, 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.640 and hence the spreadable versions were very popular originally back 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:48.719 in the nineties. Now fluoroproactive is ten dollars per five 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.080 hundred gram, so it's double what a standard margarine is. 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:57.040 And you to get the cholesterol lowering effect, you used 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.800 to need at least a couple of tablespoons, so about 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.840 four grams per day to get that amount of plant sterol. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:04.640 Actually, just looked it up. It's a little bit less. 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:06.800 It's a little less. It's twenty five grams. It's about 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.960 a rounded tablespoon, which you'll give you about two grams 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:10.760 of plant sterols. 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:12.520 But that's a lot, isn't it, Because that's. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.840 Like two a big heaped table spoon. 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:16.360 It's a lot of spread. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.760 So and the research is for two to three grams, 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.640 so i'd really be upping closer to three just to 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:23.400 kind of, you know, really make sure you are getting 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.160 in that clinical dose that's required to actually give you 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.880 that cholesterol lowering effect. So you're looking at a really 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.080 heaped table So in a day, I would not use 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:32.120 anything close to. 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.520 That every day. You've got to have it too every day. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.640 And it takes it as a little as three weeks, 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:38.920 but at least three weeks to really benefit from that, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:40.760 and then if you stop it, your cholesterol's got to 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.240 go back up again, so it's something you need to 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:43.120 do consistently. 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.080 Let's go through the nutritionals and then we'll come back 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.720 to why we're perhaps not always recommending this product, even 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:52.040 though that sounds amazing. So the ingredients is different. Straight away, 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.320 the first ingredients water and if you've used them, you'll 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:57.880 notice they're quite whipped. They're quite different consistency, followed by 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:02.000 vegetable oils than the fighter st eryls, eight percent gelatine, 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.120 salt are multifiers SOI lefus and milk solid. It's so 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.560 very similar profile to the other products preservative, natural flavor, 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:11.120 the basic margarine formula. Now the nutritionals are different, So 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.960 per hundred grams it's fifteen hundred and forty kilodels, which 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.600 is significantly less than the others, up to thirty percent 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:21.760 less calories per one hundred grams, which is interesting because 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:23.960 the total fat is only forty point five grams and 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.040 the saturrets as low as nine. So if we were 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:31.360 purely talking about spreadsley and minus the cholesterol lowering ad 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:35.600 on which we'll talk about, it's superior nutritionally straight away, 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.080 Like it's forty percent fat, so it's like a third 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:41.400 less fat in total, much lower and saturated fat less 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:45.400 than ten percent saturated and lower in sodium. So nutritionally 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:49.960 it's a lower calorie, lower fat product. But first of all, 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.960 let's not forget it's double the price, so you're adding 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.200 in a spread that is quite expensive. You know, let's 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:57.880 be honest in the food spend at the moment ten 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:01.160 dollars for a small packet of something small. The reasonly 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.120 Anna and I are not saying everyone should use this 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.040 if you've got chi cholesterol is that you have to 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.360 use so much every single day, and that adds up 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.600 because how many serves is that it's only twenty serves, 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.520 so less than a month to get that twenty five 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.960 grams to get the clinical effect, it adds up like 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.120 you're spending ten fifteen dollars a month on margarine. Now, 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.440 I myself know that with my clients I would much 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.400 rather than get a cholesterol lowering effect from a diet 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:30.040 I can prescribe that doesn't add back in process fat 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.440 in the form of margarine. But some people who have 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.040 not had dietary effects, or who mix perhaps this with 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.400 plant sterol coming from milk. There's the hard active milk 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.440 that has plant sterols. Perhaps it works for those people, 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.120 but I don't generally recommend or prescribe it because I 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.680 just don't feel that comfortable in giving people process vegetable 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.920 oil to lower cholesterol levels. So that's why leand and 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.520 I are a little bit sort of not going for it, 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.880 even though nutritionally it looks superior and it seems to 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.440 have this profound health benefit. 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.000 I agree. And it's expensive. You're like ten dollars for 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.920 five hundred grams. Yeah, it's just a lot like I couldn't. 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.119 I wouldn't be able to eat that, and I rarely 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.080 have clients that would be able to do that unless 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:11.960 you're using it and cooking. You know, you're cooking your 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.360 vegetables in it. You're having bread too three times a day, 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.919 which you know, as dieticians who really encourage people not 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:18.920 to do because we want a diversity of different types 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:20.960 of hoole grains in the diet. We don't want toothy 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.400 slices at breakfast, two three slices of bread at lunch, 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.400 and then more bread or something at dinner. And let's 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.560 be honest with the other types of whole grains like 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:29.840 rice and kunua and other types of grains, we don't 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.200 tend to use butter and margarine on them like we 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.480 would with bread, so it's sort of a trade off. 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.159 I rarely, rarely, rarely, rarely recommend this. If I need 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.280 some sort of plant sterol, I'll go with the milk 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.360 as a good example, Like there's a plant sterel type 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:44.640 of milk that's the one I generally use for my clients. 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:49.119 And a cereal wheatbeaks. So I have to agree with you. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:50.840 I think if you are going to try plants drolls 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:55.160 to lower cholesterol, there's better options, And I just yeah, 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.520 I'm one hundred percent with you. Actually, I can't remember 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:58.840 how much it was in Audi. I think it was 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.240 still about eight dollars. But it's good to understand it 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:02.679 because I think there's quite a few people who use 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.040 it sporadically and will not be getting the clinical benefit, 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.920 and for those people, it's certainly a waste of money. Yes, 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:13.560 all right, Well, that concludes our chat about margarine, in 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.720 which we have been planning to do for quite some time. 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:18.359