1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: The last product review we did was all about butter 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: and it got so much engagement that we thought it 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: was time we followed on and made another product review 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: all about Marjorie. 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 2: Hi. 6 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm Susie burrowlean Wood and as two of Australia's leading dieticians, 7 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: we bring you the Nutrition Couch to product review, a 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: weekly chat on new products and old favorites that you 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: can find in the supermarket. And today, Leanne, you've gone 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: out and picked three different types of very popular margarines 11 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: and AUSSI supermarkets. I recognized all the different ones straight 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: away and why perhaps we would and maybe would not 13 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: recommend them for our clients. Now we will share on 14 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: the potty today that when we recently compiled our product 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: review manual, which has done incredibly well, we can't really 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: believe how many people are buying it and are interested 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: in product information. You had wanted to or not want to. 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say and put you on the spot like that, 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: but we had discussed whether margarine should go, you know, 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 1: and I was quite adamant that it didn't. And when 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: I feel strongly about something, I do tend to be 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: quite definite about it. And the reason I felt strongly 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: about it was that I felt it was a heavily 24 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: processed product that we shouldn't be saying that this is 25 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: our best favorite one, because if I'm really honest, I 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: would say it's in general, I try and discourage the 27 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: use of added spreads. So we agreed to sort of 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: we didn't want to be seen to be recommending margarine 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: because really the product guide, and if you haven't seen it, 30 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: you can see it on our website, the nutritioncouch dot com. 31 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: The product guide is really us pointing towards the products 32 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: that we know, love and use and recommend with our clients. 33 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: So there's no Margarine. I'll be very clear that I 34 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: go and say to my clients, I want you to 35 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: buy this one because I'm really, in general trying to 36 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: minimize added fat. And the reason I'm trying to do 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: that is that margarine doesn't really add a lot of 38 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: extra nutrition into the diet. So if we're looking at recommendations, 39 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: it would be like a dietitian saying what's the best 40 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: sugar to add to your tea, Whereas my position is 41 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: you better not to add sugar. So I'm not going 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: to recommend the best one and It's a little bit 43 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: similar for me with Marjorie. I say, look, if you 44 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: choose to have a spread on your toast or for 45 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: whatever reason, a small amount of any is probably okay. 46 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: And yeah, there are some that I would recommend or 47 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: even you know, full transparency them that I do have 48 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: at home first, say my kids sandwiches with a bit 49 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: of vegemite. So that was why it didn't appear in 50 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: the product manual. But as we know, it's a staple 51 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: product in supermarket and we did think it was really 52 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: important that we talked about it. Would you say, you're 53 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: on the same page as maybe one. 54 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 2: It's definitely something we need to minimize if people are 55 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: having it, you know, for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I 56 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: don't think that's a good thing. And it doesn't necessarily 57 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: add anything positive in nutrition wise towards our health. And 58 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: same deal with butter. Butter's on the same level. You know, 59 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: a lot of people say, oh, it's grass fed, it's organic, 60 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: butter is better because the saturated fat's better, but not 61 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: necessarily Like to me, saturated fat is in the areas 62 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: in neutral fat like it's not positive like our avocado 63 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: or extraversional of all or our salmon, and same deal 64 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: with you know, the types of fats in margarines as well. 65 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: Sure it's not saturated, it's unsaturated, but we're not with 66 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: getting much positive nutrition towards our health because it is 67 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: so heavily processed. It's nothing like its original kind of form. 68 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: Put it that way, true, and we don't technically need it. 69 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: You know, when it comes to fats like extravergent, olive 70 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: oil or the fats in nuts and seas, there's a 71 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: functional role, whereas there's very little functional nutrition in margarine. 72 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: But it does play a role for a range of 73 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: different reasons. And so we've picked three really good products today. 74 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: I love the ones you've chosen because you've picked them 75 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: for really smart reasons. So the first one we're going 76 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: to check is the Nuttlex poly unsaturated margarine spread. So 77 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: Nutlex have a whole range of different products. 78 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: In the old days, they're always in a white container 79 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: NUTLEGX for anyone who grew up in the eighties. But 80 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: this one you'll know there's sort of a sunflower on 81 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: the label. There's also a blue light variety. There's an 82 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: olive oil one. There's several different ones of Nuttlex and 83 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: I love you've picked this one because it's one of 84 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: the only vegan, one hundred percent vegan plant based spreads, 85 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: because you just said to me one of the issues 86 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: is with a lot of margarines, they still include milk solids, 87 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: whereas this one is a vegan product, so that's interesting 88 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: to some of our listeners in general. This is from Woolli's, 89 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: but I know it's available in both. It was on 90 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: sale at the time we published this, but it was. 91 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: It retails for about five dollars twenty per container and 92 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: the containers five hundred grams, so it's quite large. It's 93 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: not one of those sort of half sized ones that 94 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: you may find made in Australia from at least seventy 95 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: seven percent of Australian ingredients, so it's stiry free, lactose free, 96 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: vegan and gluten free, so quite relevant to a number 97 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: of listeners in terms of dietary preferences or requirements. When 98 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: we look at the ingredient list or from vegetable sources, 99 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: the first ingredient is vegetable oils containing sunflower oil at 100 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: five percent. Now there's no overall description of the mix 101 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: of vegetable oil, which is a little bit concerning because 102 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: there's a massive sunflower on the front of the container 103 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: and it's saying it's got five percent only sunflower oil, 104 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking what else is going in there? The 105 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: next ingredient's water, salt, and mulsifiers, which are simply used 106 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: to mix the product up. Some fower lessis than which 107 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: is very common in Marjorine natural flavor, and some vitamins 108 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: are added ad in natural color which has beta carotene, 109 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: which is fairly routine in Marjorie. Across the board, they'll 110 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: be forty five with certain essential nutrients. If we look 111 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: at the nutritionals per hundred grams, will compare as it's 112 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: a fat, added fat to the diet and four twenty 113 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: four hundred kilodeels, which is about six hundred calories per 114 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: hundred grams. A serve of margarine would we would suggest 115 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: normally be five grams, so just five percent of that. 116 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: But this is just to compare across brands sixty three 117 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: percent fat, which is actually reasonably low. You know, butter 118 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: spreadable butters and a lot of margarines in the old 119 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: days would be up to eighty percent, So this is 120 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: kind of a reduced fat variety. Sixteen point three percent 121 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: saturated fat, so not low in saturated fat, but relatively 122 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: low compared to butter. No carbohydrate sodium three forty milligrams 123 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: in one hundred gram container. So yeah, I think the 124 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: big concern for Melian is when it says vegetable oils 125 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: containing some fire oil. I can only assume it's not 126 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: at sixteen percent. I wouldn't say it's all palm. It's 127 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: probably a mix of different plant based oils. If it 128 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: was palm oil, I would suspect it would have a 129 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: much higher saturate of fat proportion that it has at 130 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: sixteen percent, So I'd be hastened to say it's probably 131 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: a mix of canola sunflower oil. In general, to me, 132 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: there's nothing outstanding about it. It's more a good option, 133 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: I guess for people who are vegan. It's lower in 134 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: fat than some added spreads. And yeah, for people with 135 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: certain dietary preferences are in tolerance, particularly lactose or dairy 136 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: free or neating vegan products, it probably ticks the box 137 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: for those people at a reasonable price point. 138 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: I just found it amusing that it's marketed as this 139 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: you know yellow tub yellow, you know yellow coloring, big 140 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: sunflare on the front of it. That's like five percent 141 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: somehow oil So bad marketing. 142 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: It's a really good example of how it can be 143 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: a little bit misleading when it comes to products, because 144 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: if they have a claim for an ingredient, like if 145 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: it says sunflower, it's got to have it listed how 146 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: much But it's only five percent, so there's not a 147 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: whole lot of sunflower going in there. 148 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. So so nut Ale's original with soundfire oil with 149 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 2: which say minimal, very minimal. 150 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,559 Speaker 1: Not that sometow is so much better than all the others, 151 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: but I think it looks better, it looks healthier and 152 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: more happy because of the sun powers on the front. 153 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: And I think also that perception you know, nuts and 154 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: seeds are better types of fats and other type you know, 155 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: some other types of unsutradded fats, So I would you know, 156 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: naturally think oh, sunflower is probably a better choice, but 157 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: it's got such minimal in there, And you're right, like, 158 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: why if you're going to disclose how much sunflow oil 159 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: one I put on the other types of oils in 160 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: there as well. So nothing super positive about nutrition, but 161 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: it's a great option for those with allergies in tolerances, 162 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: dietary preferences. As you said, that's probably the biggest reason 163 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: we'd be recommending it for clients who don't eat dairy, 164 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: can't eat dairy, follow a vegan lifestyle, looking for something 165 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: that is good and free, and the sodium is quite 166 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: low as well. Yeah, that's probably the only really pros 167 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: I'd say, if you need it, by it. If not, 168 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we're certainly not going to say there's healthier 169 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: margarines on the market, because they're all kind of the same. 170 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: We're not looking for health ones. We're probably just looking 171 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: for one that sort of fits the budget, that's nice 172 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: and spreadable, it doesn't taste too bad if you're adding 173 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: it with your veggiemiter onto a sandwich for the kids, 174 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: and you know, we're just looking for you know, fairly, 175 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: I would say clean ingredient list, which I think most 176 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: of them would have, But although it's clean from an 177 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: ingredient perspective, it's not really adding in positive nutritional benefits. 178 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: So we're certainly not recommending you go nuts on it. 179 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: But this one's fine to use in moderation if that's 180 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: what you choose. 181 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: True, and for full transparency, I probably go the notle 182 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: X Light myself. When I'm actually choosing why it's often 183 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: discounted as well, So I don't buy this or myself. 184 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: But if I do pick Anotherlex, it's usually the light 185 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: one for a range of reasons. It's a bit lighter, 186 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: and I think it's only forty percent of that for memory, 187 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: and it spreads really well too, which is a consideration, 188 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: all right. So the next one we're looking at is 189 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: the Olive Grove Classics spread at five hundred gram so 190 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: it was on again sale at time of publication, but 191 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: normally retails for about five dollars sixty five, so slightly 192 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: more expensive than the Nuttlex slightly forty cents more, and 193 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: again really tapping into the idea that it's olive oil 194 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: or olive base. So this is sixty percent vegetable oil 195 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: with a minimum nineteen percent olive oil, so much much 196 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: higher than the five percent earlier. Now, of course, olive 197 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: oil is a liquid fat, so it's not going to 198 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: be a high proportion because they need to make it 199 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: a solid fat through processing. That's what margarine is, so 200 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: hence there'll be a level of olliywool they can get 201 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: in there from both a cost perspective, but also just 202 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: functionally is able to solidify and make a solid type 203 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: of fat that you can spread water, salt, and mulsifier, 204 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: so very similar, which is just how you make obviously 205 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: margarine in the factory milk solid, so that's popping up 206 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: there to give it the thickness which you didn't see 207 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: in the nuttlex variety. So when we look at what 208 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: are they using to thicken it up, so it's some 209 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: flower methis and or be what they're using, I'd imagine 210 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: in the earlier product, which was vegan, so not using milk, solvents, 211 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: preservative to A two fairly standard for margarine food dusted 212 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: color margorines will always contain a color because they're just 213 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: looking like a murky gray when they're actually made. Vitamin's 214 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: A and D again mandatory fortification, but not listed for 215 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: that reason. And when we look at the calories, it's 216 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: twenty two hundred and twenty, so slightly less but not 217 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: significantly to the earlier product. There's someone grammar protein against 218 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: sixty percent fat and very similar percentage saturatedly and at 219 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: sixteen point two, which would make me feel that that's 220 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: the amount required to make it a solid fat given 221 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: that it's so standard across the range. That's the one 222 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: grammar carbohydrate is expected, and three hundred and forty milligrams 223 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: of sodium per hundred which is about thirty five per 224 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: five grams serve, which is also ten gram serve, so 225 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: not high and not low, just pretty standard for margarine. Again, 226 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: for me, i'd give it, you know, six out of ten. 227 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: It's not amazing, it's not bad. It's a pretty standard 228 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: margarine product that in the old days there used to 229 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: be olive grove light. I don't know if there still is. 230 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 2: I think it is still around. That's the one actually 231 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: having my fridge, so full disclosure, I am not really 232 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: a butter person. I prefer olive grove. I have a 233 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: light one. I think it's just I grew up with it, 234 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: Like it's always what we had in the fridge growing up. 235 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: If I ever wanted some, like you know, vegimoi on toaster, 236 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: a little bit of butter on whatever I was eating, 237 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 2: which I didn't use too much of, but that's sort 238 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: of always what I have had, so I've always sort 239 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: of stuck with that. But until I really did my degree, 240 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: I didn't really read the labels too much. I find 241 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: it interesting. I was like Chakra when I first learned 242 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: that I was only nineteen per but then looking through 243 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 2: the other ranges, like you said, with the sunflower, it 244 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: was only like five percent, so nineteen percent is actually 245 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: quite a lot. And when you said, you know, olive 246 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: oil is a liquid at room temperature, of course there 247 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: can't be one hundred percent olive oil because it would 248 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 2: be a liquid spread like it has to be solidified. 249 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: It has to have some saturated fat in there to 250 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: actually solidify it. So nutrition panel wise, like, it's very 251 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: similar to the natterlex one, isn't it very similar like 252 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: the fat minimal carves, minimal protein, no fib and no 253 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: sugar and minimal you know, amounts of sodium as well. 254 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: So really the only difference is this one does contain 255 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: milk solids and a little bit probably of a better 256 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: fat percentage. But note that it's nineteen percent olive oil, 257 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 2: not nineteen percent extravergin olive oil. So we're not getting 258 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: the full range of really high quality antioxidants there. And 259 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: I would probably say the minimal antioxidants you are getting 260 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: a probably offset pie some of the saturated fat in there. Anyway, 261 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: And some of the preservatives and stuff, So you're certainly 262 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: not buying this for a health perspective, but it may 263 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 2: give a slightly better edge than some of the other 264 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: margarines on the market. Put it that way, true, I 265 00:11:59,000 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: just had a little look. 266 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: So it's interesting, though, we am because the Natterlex Light product, 267 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: which I often buy, has got forty eight percent fat 268 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: versus sixty three, so what twenty five percent lighter? But 269 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: the Olive Grove Light is only like five grams less 270 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: than full fat. So this is sixty grams per hundred 271 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: of fat overall and fifty five for the light. So 272 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: that's a little bit misleading to It's not significantly lighter, 273 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: is it, Which I'm surprised. I thought it would have 274 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: been a lot lighter. 275 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: And I wonder if the milk solids are bumping that up. 276 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: So for me, it's middle ground, not good, not bad. 277 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: It's sort of it's clearly standard margarine, and i'd just 278 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: been encouraging my clients to use it sparingly if they're 279 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: looking for something for their toast or to spread on 280 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: kids sandwiches. All right, now, the final product, I'm so 281 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: glad we're talking about because when I was at University. 282 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: The cholesterol lowering plants are on margarines launched in Australia 283 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: and originally there was Logical which was a product I 284 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: think from Medal Lee in the day, and then also 285 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: for Proactive, which which is the competing brand. Now there 286 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: is now to my knowledge, only Floroproactive, which is an 287 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: international brand. And I also noticed just as we went 288 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: into this that when I went to Aldi, they had 289 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: the same similar product, obviously repackaged with a cholesterol lowering option. 290 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: So what is cholesterol lowering margarine? 291 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: So? 292 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: Plant sterols are a substance that are naturally found in 293 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: fruits and veggies, nuts and seeds, and when you concentrate 294 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: them to about two to three grams that can block 295 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: the uptake of cholesterol in the body. So these products 296 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: have been around in Europe for many years and basically 297 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: they're shown to clinically lower blood cholesterol levels because they 298 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: hop in the spot of cholesterol and cholesterol gets processed 299 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: out and they need some fat to be absorbed, so 300 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: they'll generally be in a dairy product something else with fat, 301 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: and hence the spreadable versions were very popular originally back 302 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: in the nineties. Now fluoroproactive is ten dollars per five 303 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: hundred gram, so it's double what a standard margarine is. 304 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: And you to get the cholesterol lowering effect, you used 305 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: to need at least a couple of tablespoons, so about 306 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: four grams per day to get that amount of plant sterol. 307 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: Actually, just looked it up. It's a little bit less. 308 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: It's a little less. It's twenty five grams. It's about 309 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: a rounded tablespoon, which you'll give you about two grams 310 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: of plant sterols. 311 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: But that's a lot, isn't it, Because that's. 312 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: Like two a big heaped table spoon. 313 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: It's a lot of spread. 314 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: So and the research is for two to three grams, 315 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: so i'd really be upping closer to three just to 316 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: kind of, you know, really make sure you are getting 317 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: in that clinical dose that's required to actually give you 318 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: that cholesterol lowering effect. So you're looking at a really 319 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: heaped table So in a day, I would not use 320 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: anything close to. 321 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: That every day. You've got to have it too every day. 322 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: And it takes it as a little as three weeks, 323 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: but at least three weeks to really benefit from that, 324 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: and then if you stop it, your cholesterol's got to 325 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: go back up again, so it's something you need to 326 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: do consistently. 327 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: Let's go through the nutritionals and then we'll come back 328 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: to why we're perhaps not always recommending this product, even 329 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: though that sounds amazing. So the ingredients is different. Straight away, 330 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: the first ingredients water and if you've used them, you'll 331 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: notice they're quite whipped. They're quite different consistency, followed by 332 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: vegetable oils than the fighter st eryls, eight percent gelatine, 333 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: salt are multifiers SOI lefus and milk solid. It's so 334 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: very similar profile to the other products preservative, natural flavor, 335 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: the basic margarine formula. Now the nutritionals are different, So 336 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: per hundred grams it's fifteen hundred and forty kilodels, which 337 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: is significantly less than the others, up to thirty percent 338 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: less calories per one hundred grams, which is interesting because 339 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: the total fat is only forty point five grams and 340 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: the saturrets as low as nine. So if we were 341 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: purely talking about spreadsley and minus the cholesterol lowering ad 342 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: on which we'll talk about, it's superior nutritionally straight away, 343 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: Like it's forty percent fat, so it's like a third 344 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: less fat in total, much lower and saturated fat less 345 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: than ten percent saturated and lower in sodium. So nutritionally 346 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: it's a lower calorie, lower fat product. But first of all, 347 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: let's not forget it's double the price, so you're adding 348 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: in a spread that is quite expensive. You know, let's 349 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: be honest in the food spend at the moment ten 350 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: dollars for a small packet of something small. The reasonly 351 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: Anna and I are not saying everyone should use this 352 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: if you've got chi cholesterol is that you have to 353 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: use so much every single day, and that adds up 354 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: because how many serves is that it's only twenty serves, 355 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: so less than a month to get that twenty five 356 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: grams to get the clinical effect, it adds up like 357 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: you're spending ten fifteen dollars a month on margarine. Now, 358 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: I myself know that with my clients I would much 359 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: rather than get a cholesterol lowering effect from a diet 360 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: I can prescribe that doesn't add back in process fat 361 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: in the form of margarine. But some people who have 362 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: not had dietary effects, or who mix perhaps this with 363 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: plant sterol coming from milk. There's the hard active milk 364 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: that has plant sterols. Perhaps it works for those people, 365 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: but I don't generally recommend or prescribe it because I 366 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: just don't feel that comfortable in giving people process vegetable 367 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: oil to lower cholesterol levels. So that's why leand and 368 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: I are a little bit sort of not going for it, 369 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: even though nutritionally it looks superior and it seems to 370 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: have this profound health benefit. 371 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: I agree. And it's expensive. You're like ten dollars for 372 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: five hundred grams. Yeah, it's just a lot like I couldn't. 373 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to eat that, and I rarely 374 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: have clients that would be able to do that unless 375 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: you're using it and cooking. You know, you're cooking your 376 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 2: vegetables in it. You're having bread too three times a day, 377 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 2: which you know, as dieticians who really encourage people not 378 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: to do because we want a diversity of different types 379 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: of hoole grains in the diet. We don't want toothy 380 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 2: slices at breakfast, two three slices of bread at lunch, 381 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: and then more bread or something at dinner. And let's 382 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: be honest with the other types of whole grains like 383 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: rice and kunua and other types of grains, we don't 384 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: tend to use butter and margarine on them like we 385 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: would with bread, so it's sort of a trade off. 386 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 2: I rarely, rarely, rarely, rarely recommend this. If I need 387 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: some sort of plant sterol, I'll go with the milk 388 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 2: as a good example, Like there's a plant sterel type 389 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 2: of milk that's the one I generally use for my clients. 390 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: And a cereal wheatbeaks. So I have to agree with you. 391 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: I think if you are going to try plants drolls 392 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: to lower cholesterol, there's better options, And I just yeah, 393 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent with you. Actually, I can't remember 394 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: how much it was in Audi. I think it was 395 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: still about eight dollars. But it's good to understand it 396 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: because I think there's quite a few people who use 397 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: it sporadically and will not be getting the clinical benefit, 398 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: and for those people, it's certainly a waste of money. Yes, 399 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: all right, Well, that concludes our chat about margarine, in 400 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: which we have been planning to do for quite some time. 401 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: We hope that it's made selecting those products in the 402 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 1: supermarket a little bit easier, and if you haven't done 403 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: so already, don't forget to subscribe because we can be 404 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: in your inbox every Sunday and Wednesday morning. We have 405 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: our recent seminar on hormones, gut health and fatler still 406 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: available for purchase on our website, the Nutrition Dutch dot com. 407 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: And if you want some more fantastic product recommendations, we 408 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: have our Supermarket Aussie Product Guide available which has proved 409 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: extremely popular at giving people a range of different healthy 410 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: options available at supermarkets. And we will see you on 411 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: Sunday for our weekly regular episode. Have a great week 412 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: we do. 413 00:18:49,720 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: In the next episode of the Best Storming Parties Instea