1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: The last product review we did was all about butter, 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: and it got so much engagement that we thought it 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: was time we followed on and made another product review 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: all about Marjorie. Hi, I'm Susie Burrow and Olean Wood, 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: and as two of austrayas leading dieticians, we bring you 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: the Nutrition Couch to product review, a weekly chat on 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: new products and old favorites that you can find in 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: the supermarket. 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: And today, Leanne, you've gone. 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: Out and picked three different types of very popular margarines 11 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: and ausi supermarkets. I recognized all the different ones straight 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: away and why perhaps we would and maybe would not 13 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 1: recommend them for our clients. Now we will share on 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: the potty today that when we recently compiled our product 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: review manual, which has done incredibly well, we can't really 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: believe how many people are buying it and are interested 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: in product information. 18 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: You had wanted to or not want to. 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say and put you on the spot like that, 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: but we had discussed whether margarine should go, you know, 21 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 1: and I was quite adamant that it didn't. And when 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: I feel strongly about something, I do tend to be 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: quite definite about it. And the reason I felt strongly 24 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: about it was that I felt it was a heavily 25 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: processed product that we shouldn't be saying that this is 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: our best favorite one, because if I'm really honest, I 27 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: would say it's in general, I try and discourage the 28 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: use of added spreads. So we agreed to sort of 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: we didn't want to be seen to be recommending margarine 30 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: because really the product guide, and if you haven't seen it, 31 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: you can see it on our website, the nutritioncouch dot com. 32 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: The product guide is really us pointing towards the products 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: that we know, love and use and recommend with our clients. 34 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: So there's no Margarine. I'll be very clear that I 35 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: go and say to my clients, I want you to 36 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: buy this one because I'm really, in general trying to 37 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: minimize added fat. And the reason I'm trying to do 38 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: that is that margarine doesn't really add a lot of 39 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: extra nutrition into the diet. So if we're looking at recommendations, 40 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: it would be like a dietitian saying what's the best 41 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: sugar to add to your tea, whereas my position is 42 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: you better not to add sugar. So I'm not going 43 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: to recommend the best one, and it's a little bit 44 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: similar for me with Marjorie, I say, look, if you 45 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: choose to have a spread on your toast or for 46 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: whatever reason, a small amount of any is probably okay. 47 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: And yeah, there are some that I would recommend or 48 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: even you know, full transparency them that I do have 49 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: at home first, say my kids sandwiches with a bit 50 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: of vegemite. So that was why it didn't appear in 51 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: the product manual. But as we know, it's a staple 52 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: product in supermarket and we did think it was really 53 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: important that we talked about it. Would you say, you're 54 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: on the same page as maybe one. 55 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: It's definitely something we need to minimize if people are 56 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: having it, you know, for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I 57 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: don't think that's a good thing and it doesn't necessarily 58 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: add anything positive in nutrition wise towards our health. And 59 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: same deal with butter. Butter's on the same level. You 60 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 3: know a lot of people say, oh, it's grass fed, 61 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: it's organic. Butter is better because they're saturated fat's better, 62 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: but not necessarily Like to me, saturated fat is in 63 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: the areas in neutral fat like it's not positive like 64 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: our avocado or extraversional of all or our salmon, and 65 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: same deal with you know, the types of fats in 66 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: margarines as well. Sure it's not saturated, it's unsaturated, but 67 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: we're not with getting much positive nutrition towards our house 68 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: because it is so heavily processed. It's nothing like its 69 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: original kind of form. Put it that way, true, and 70 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: we don't technically need it. 71 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: You know, when it comes to fats like extravergent olive 72 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: oil or the fats in nuts and seas, there's a 73 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: functional role, whereas there's very little functional nutrition in margarine. 74 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: But it does play a role for a range of 75 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: different reasons. And so we've picked three really good products today. 76 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: I love the ones you've chosen because you've picked them 77 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: for really smart reasons. So the first one we're going 78 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: to check is the Nutterlex poly unsaturated margarine spread. So 79 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: Nutlex have a whole range of different products, and in 80 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: the old days they're always in a white container nutlegs 81 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: for anyone who grew up in the eighties. But this 82 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: one you'll know there's sort of a sunflower on the label. 83 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: There's also a blue light variety, there's an olive oil one. 84 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: There's several different ones of Nuttlex and I love you've 85 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: picked this one because it's one of the only vegan 86 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: one hundred percent vegan plant based spreads, because you just 87 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: said to me one of the issues is with a 88 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: lot of margarines they still include milk solids, whereas this 89 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: one is a vegan product, so that's interesting to some 90 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: of our listeners in general. This is from Woolli's, but 91 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: I know it's available in both. It was on sale 92 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: at the time we published this, but it was. It 93 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: retails for about five dollars twenty per container and the 94 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: containers five hundred gram so it's quite large. It's not 95 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: one of those sort of half sized ones that you 96 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: may find made in Australia from at least seventy seven 97 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: percent of Australian ingredients, so it's steriry free, lectose free, 98 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: vegan and gluten free, so quite relevant to a number 99 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: of listeners in terms of dietary preferences or requirements. When 100 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 1: we look at the ingredient list or from vegetable sources, 101 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: the first ingredient is vegetable oils containing sunflower oil at 102 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: five percent. Now there's no overall description of the mix 103 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: of vegetable oil, which is a little bit concerning because 104 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: there's a massive sunflower on the front of the container 105 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: and it's saying it's got five percent only sunflower oil, 106 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking what else is going in there? The 107 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: next ingredient's water, salt, and mulsifiers, which are simply used 108 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: to mix the product up. Some fower lessis than which 109 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: is very common in Marjorine natural flavor, and some vitamins 110 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: are added ad in natural color which has beta carotene, 111 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: which is fairly routine in Marjorie. Across the board, they'll 112 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: be forty five with certain essential nutrients. If we look 113 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: at the nutritionals per hundred grams, will compare as it's 114 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: a fat, added fat to the diet and four twenty 115 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: four hundred kilodels, which is about six hundred calories per 116 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: hundred grams. A serve of margarine would we would suggest 117 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: normally be five grams, so just five percent of that. 118 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: But this is just to compare across brands. Sixty three 119 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: percent fat, which is actually reasonably low, you know, butter 120 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: spreadable butters and a lot of margarines in the old 121 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: days would be up to eighty percent, So this is kind. 122 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 2: Of a reduced fat variety. 123 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: Sixteen point three percent saturated fat, so not low in 124 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: saturated fat, but relatively low compared to butter. No carbohydrate 125 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: sodium three forty milligrams in one hundred gram container. So yeah, 126 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: I think the big concern for Melian is when it 127 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: says vegetable oils containing some fire oil. I can only 128 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: assume it's not as sixteen percent. I wouldn't say it's 129 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: all palm. It's probably a mix of different plant based oils. 130 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: If it was palm oil, I would suspect it would 131 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: have a much higher saturate of fat proportion than it 132 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: has at sixteen percent, So I'd be hastened to say 133 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: it's probably a mix of canola sunflower oil. In general, 134 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: to me, there's nothing outstanding about it. It's more a 135 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: good option, I guess for people who are vegan. It's 136 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: lower in fat than some added spreads. And yeah, for 137 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: people with certain dietary preferences are in tolerance, particularly lactose 138 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: or dairy free or eating vegan products, it probably ticks 139 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: the box for those people at a reasonable price point. 140 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: I just find it amusing that it's marketed as this 141 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: you know yellow tub yellow, you know yellow coloring, big 142 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: Sunflare on the front of it. 143 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 4: That's like five percent somehow oil. 144 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: So bad marketing. 145 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: It's a really good example of how it can be 146 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: a little bit misleading when it comes to products because 147 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: if they have a claim for an ingredient, like if 148 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: it says sunflower, it's got to have it listed how 149 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: much But it's only five percent, so there's not a 150 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: whole lot of sunflower going in there. 151 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 152 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: So so Nule's original with soundflow oil with which would 153 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: say minimal, very minimal. 154 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: Not that sometimes so much better than all the others. 155 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: But I think it looks better, it looks healthier and 156 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: more happy because of the sun powers on the front. 157 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 3: And I think also that perception you know, nuts and 158 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: seeds are better types of fats and other type you know, 159 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: some other types of unsutradd fats, So I would you know, 160 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: naturally think oh, sunflower is probably a better choice, but 161 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: it's got such minimal in there, And you're right, like, 162 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: why if you're going to disclose how much sunflow oil 163 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: one I put on the other types of oils in 164 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: there as well. So nothing super positive about nutrition, but 165 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: it's a great option for those with allergies in tolerances 166 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: dietary preferences. As you said, that's probably the biggest reason 167 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: we'd be recommending it for clients who don't eat dairy, 168 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: can't eat dairy, follow a vegan lifestyle, looking for something 169 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: that is good and free, and the sodium is quite 170 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: low as well. Yeah, that's probably the only really pros 171 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: I'd say, if you need it by it. If not, 172 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: I mean, we're certainly not going to say there's healthier 173 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: margarines on the market, because they're all kind of the same. 174 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: We're not looking for health ones. We're probably just looking 175 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: for one that sort of fits the budget, that's nice 176 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: and spreadable, it doesn't taste too bad if you're adding 177 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: it with your vegimiter onto a sandwich for the kids, 178 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: and you know, we're just looking for you know, fairly, 179 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: I was a clean ingredient list, which I think most 180 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: of them would have. But although it's clean from an 181 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: ingredient perspective, it's not really adding in positive nutritional benefits. 182 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: So we're certainly not recommending you you go nuts on it. 183 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: But this one's fine to use in moderation if that's 184 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: what you choose. 185 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: True, and for full transparency, I probably go the notle 186 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: x light myself when I'm actually choosing why it's often 187 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: discounted as well, So I don't buy this or myself, 188 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: but if I do pick Anottlex, it's usually the light 189 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: one for a range of reasons. 190 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: It's a bit lighter. I think it's only forty percent 191 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: of that for. 192 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: Memory, and it spreads really well too, which is a consideration, 193 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: all right. So the next one we're looking at is 194 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: the Olive Grove Classics spread at five hundred gram so 195 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: it was on again sale at time of publication, but 196 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: normally retails for about five dollars sixty five, so slightly 197 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: more expensive than the Nuttlex slightly forty cents more, and 198 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: again really tapping into the idea that it's olive oil 199 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: or olive base. So this is sixty percent vegetable oil 200 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: with a minimum nineteen percent olive oil, so much much 201 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: higher than the five percent earlier. Now, of course, olive 202 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: oil is a liquid fat, so it's not going to 203 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: be a high proportion because they need to make it 204 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: a solid fat through processing. That's what margarine is, so 205 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: hence there'll be a level of olivewool they can get 206 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: in there from both a cost perspective, but also just 207 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: functionally is able to solidify and make a solid type 208 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: of fat that you can spread water, salt and mulsifier, 209 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: so very similar, which is just how you make obviously 210 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: margarine in the factory milk solid, so that's popping up 211 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: there to give it the thickness which you didn't see 212 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: in the nutlex variety. So when we look at what 213 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: are they using to thicken it up at some flowl 214 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: ethids and orll be what they're using, I'd imagine in 215 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: the earlier product which was vegan, so not using milk, solvents, 216 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: preservative to a two fairly standard for margarine food usted 217 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: color margarines will always contain a color because they're just 218 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: looking like a murky gray when they're actually made. Vitamin's 219 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: A and D again mandatory fortification, but not listed for 220 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: that reason. And when we look at the calories, it's 221 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: twenty two hundred and twenty, so slightly less but not 222 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: significantly to the earlier product. There's someone grammar protein against 223 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: sixty percent fat and very similar percentage saturatedly and at 224 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: sixteen point two, which would make me feel that that's 225 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: the amount required to make it a solid fat given 226 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: that it's so standard across the range. That's the one 227 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: grammar carbohydrate is expected, and three hundred and forty milligrams 228 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: of sodium per hundred which is about thirty five per 229 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: five grams serve, which is also ten gram serve. So 230 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: not high, not low, just pretty standard for margarine. Again, 231 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: for me, I'd give it, you know, six out of ten. 232 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: It's not amazing, it's not bad. It's a pretty standard 233 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: margarine product that in the old days, there used to 234 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: be olive grove light. 235 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if there still is. I think it 236 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: is still around. 237 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 3: That's the one actually having my fridge, so full disclosure, 238 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: I am not really a butter person. I prefer olive grove. 239 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 3: I have the light one. I think it's just I 240 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: grew up with it, Like it's always what we had 241 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: in the fridge growing up. If I ever wanted some, 242 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: like you know, VEGEMOONI on toaster, a little bit of 243 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: butter on whatever I was eating, which I didn't use 244 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 3: too much of, but that's sort of always what I've had, 245 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: so I've always sort of stuck with that. But until 246 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: I really did my degree, I didn't really read the 247 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 3: labels too much. I find it interesting. I was like 248 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 3: chakra when I first learned that I was only nineteen percent, 249 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: but then looking through the other ranges, like you said, 250 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: with the sunflour, it was only like five percent, So 251 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: nineteen percent is actually quite a lot. And when you said, 252 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: you know, olive oil is a liquid at room temperature, 253 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: of course there can't be one hundred percent olive oil 254 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: because it would be a liquid spread like, it has 255 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: to be solidified. It has to have some saturated fat 256 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: in there to actually solidify it. So nutrition panel wise, like, 257 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 3: it's very similar to the natterlex one, isn't it very 258 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: similar like the fat minimal carves, minimal protein, no fib 259 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: and no sugar and minimal you know, amounts of sodium 260 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: as well. So really the only difference is this one 261 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: does contain milk solids and a little bit probably of 262 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: a better fat percentage. But note that it's nineteen percent 263 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 3: olive oil, not nineteen percent extravergin olive oil. So we're 264 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: not getting the full range of really high quality antioxidants there. 265 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: And I would probably say the minimal antioxidants you are 266 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: getting a probably offset PI some of the saturated fat 267 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: in there anyway, and some of the preservatives and stuff, 268 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: so you're certainly not buying this for a health perspective, 269 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 3: but it may give a slightly better edge than some 270 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: of the other margarines on the market. Put it that way, true, 271 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: I just had a little look. So it's interesting, though, 272 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 3: we am because the Natlex Light product, which I often buy, 273 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: has got forty eight percent fat versus sixty three, so 274 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: what twenty five percent lighter? But the Olive Grove Light 275 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 3: is only like five grams less than full fat, So 276 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: this is sixty grams per hundred of fat overall and 277 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 3: fifty five for the light, so that it's a little 278 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: bit misleading to it's not significantly lighter, is it, Which 279 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 3: I'm surprised. 280 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 2: I thought it would have been a lot lighter, and. 281 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: I wonder if the milk solids are bumping that up. 282 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: So for me, it's middle ground, not good, not bad. 283 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: It's sort of it's clearly standard margarine, and I'd just 284 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: be encouraging my clients to use it sparingly if they're 285 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: looking for something for their toast or to spread on 286 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: kids samwiches. All right, now, the final product, I'm so 287 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,119 Speaker 1: glad we're talking about because when I was at university 288 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: the cholesterol lowering plants are on margarines launched in Australia, 289 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: and originally there was Logical, which was a product I 290 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: think from Metal Lee in the day, and then also 291 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: for a Proactive which which is the competing brand. Now 292 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: there is now to my knowledge, only Fluoroproactive, which is 293 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: an international brand. And I also noticed just as we 294 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: went into this that when I went to Aldi, they 295 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: had the same similar product, it obviously repackaged with a 296 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: cholesterol lowering option. So what is cholesterol lowering margarine? So 297 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: plant sterols are a substance that are naturally found in 298 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: fruits and veggies, nuts and seeds, and when you concentrate 299 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: them to about two to three grams, that can block 300 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: the uptake of cholesterol in the body. So these products 301 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: have been around in Europe for many years and basically 302 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: they're shown to clinically lower blood cholesterol levels because they 303 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: hop in the spot of cholesterol and cholesterol gets processed 304 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: out and they need some fat to be absorbed, so 305 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: they'll generally be in a dairy product something else with fat, 306 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: and hence the spreadable versions were very popular originally back 307 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: in the nineties. Now Fluoroproactive is ten dollars per five 308 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: hundred gram, so it's double what a standard margarine is. 309 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: And you to get the cholesterol lowering effect, you used 310 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: to need at least a couple of tablespoons, so about 311 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: fours per day to get that amount of plant sterol. 312 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: Actually just looks it up. It's a little bit less. 313 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: It's a little less. It's twenty five grams. It's about 314 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: a rounded tablespoon, which you'll give you about two grams 315 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: of plant sterols. 316 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: But that's a lot, isn't it, Because that's like two 317 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: like a big heaped table spoon. 318 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 2: It's a lot of spread. 319 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: So and the research is for two to three grams, 320 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: so i'd really be upping closer to three just to 321 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: kind of, you know, really make sure you are getting 322 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: in that clinical dose that's required to actually give you 323 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: that cholesterol lowering effects. So you're looking at a really 324 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: heaped table so long day, I would not use anything close. 325 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: To that every day. You've got to have it too every. 326 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: Day, and it takes it as a little as three weeks, 327 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: but at least three weeks to really benefit from that, 328 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: and then if you stop it, your cholesterol's got to 329 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: go back up again. So it's something you need to 330 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: do consistently. 331 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: Let's go through the nutritionals and then we'll come back 332 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: to why we're perhaps not always recommending this product, even 333 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: though that sounds amazing. So the ingredients is different. Straight away, 334 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: the first ingredients water and if you've used them, you'll 335 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: notice they're quite whipped. They're quite different consistency, followed by 336 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: vegetable oils. Then the fighter ste errols in eight percent gelatine, salt, 337 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: a multipiers, soy lethus and milk solids, so very similar 338 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: profile to the other products preservative, natural flavor, the basic 339 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: margarine formula. Now the nutritionals are different, so per hundred 340 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: grams it's fifteen hundred and forty kilodels, which is significantly 341 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: less than the others, up to thirty percent less calories 342 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: per one hundred grams, which is interesting because the total 343 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: fats only forty point five grams and the saturrets as 344 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: low as nine. 345 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: So if we were. 346 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: Purely talking about spreadsley and minus the cholesterol lowering at 347 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: on which we'll talk about, it's superior nutritionally straight away, 348 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: like it's forty percent fat, so it's like a third 349 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: less fat in total, much lower and saturated fat less 350 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: than ten percent saturated and lower in sodium, So nutritionally 351 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: it's a lower. 352 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: Calorie, lower fat product. 353 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: But first of all, let's not forget it's double the price, 354 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: so you're adding in a spread that is quite expensive. 355 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: You know, let's be honest in the food spend at 356 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: the moment ten dollars for a small packet of something small. 357 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: The reasonly Anna and I are. 358 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: Not saying everyone should use this if you've got chi 359 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: cholesterol is that you have to use so much every 360 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: single day, and that adds up because how many serves 361 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: is that it's only twenty serves, so less than a 362 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: month to get that twenty five grams to get the 363 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: clinical effect, that adds up, like you're spending ten fifteen 364 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: dollars a month on margarine. Now, I myself know that 365 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: with my clients I would much rather than get a 366 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: cholesterolwering effect from a diet I can prescribe that doesn't 367 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: add back in process fat in the form of margarine. 368 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: But some people who have not had dietary effects, or 369 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: who mix perhaps this with plant sterol coming from milk. 370 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: There's the hard active milk that has plant sterols. Perhaps 371 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: it works for those people, but I don't generally recommend 372 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: or prescribe it because I just don't feel that comfortable 373 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: in giving people process vegetable oil to lower cholesterol levels. 374 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: So that's why leand and I are a little bit 375 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: sort of not going for it, even though nutritionally it 376 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: looks superior and it seems to have this profound health benefit. 377 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: I agree. 378 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: And it's expensive. You're like ten dollars for five hundred grams. Yeah, 379 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 3: it's just a lot like I couldn't. I wouldn't be 380 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: able to eat that, and I rarely have clients that 381 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: would be able to do that unless you're using it 382 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 3: and cooking. You know, you're cooking your vegetables in it. 383 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: You're having bread two three times a day, which you know, 384 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 3: as dieticians who really encourage people not to do because 385 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: we want a diversity of different types of wole grains 386 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 3: in the diet. We don't want toothy slices at breakfast, 387 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: two three slices of bread at lunch, and then more 388 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: bread or something at dinner. And let's be honest with 389 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: the other types of whole grains like rice and kunua 390 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 3: and other types of grains, we don't tend to use, 391 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 3: but are remargarine on them like we would with bread, 392 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: so it's sort of a trade off. I rarely, rarely, rarely, 393 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: rarely recommend this. If I need some sort of plant sterol, 394 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: I'll go with the milk as a good example, Like 395 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: there's a plant stereal type of milk that's the one 396 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: I generally use for my clients. 397 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: And a cereal oat wheatbeaks. So I have to agree 398 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: with you. I think if you are going to try 399 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: plants drills to lower cholesterol, there's better options. And I just, yeah, 400 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent with you. Actually, I can't remember 401 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: how much it was in Audi. I think it was 402 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: still about eight dollars. But it's good to understand it 403 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: because I think there's quite a few people who use 404 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: it sporadically and will not be getting the clinical benefit, 405 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: and for those people, it's certainly a waste of money. Yes, 406 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: all right, Well that concludes our chat about margarine, which 407 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: we have been planning to do for quite some time. 408 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: We hope that it's made selecting those products in the 409 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: supermarket a little bit easier, And if you haven't done 410 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: so already, don't forget to subscribe. Because we can be 411 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: in your inbox every Sunday and Wednesday morning. 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