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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda gam Nation.

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Speaker 2: I put a thing on my instag yesterday that I

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Speaker 2: saw on TikTok, and it's one of those things that

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Speaker 2: we all know it and many people go will dure,

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Speaker 2: but it really hit a nerve because it makes you think,

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Speaker 2: as women, why do we do this to ourselves.

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Speaker 3: There's a woman.

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Speaker 2: Talking about her life and she's when she says. When

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Speaker 2: you hear her say on this, what you need to

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Speaker 2: picture is she's lifting up a shirt and showing you

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Speaker 2: her stomach.

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Speaker 3: So have a listen to what she said.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is what I'm thinking about. This is

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Speaker 1: what I'm worried about. I'm standing in a home that

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Speaker 1: I bought, on a planet where there are more stars

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Speaker 1: in the sky than there are grains of sand on

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Speaker 1: each individual beach. And I have a husband who thinks

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Speaker 1: I'm the greatest thing in the world. And I have

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Speaker 1: a family who would do anything for me in hobbies

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Speaker 1: that bring me joy. And I'm staring into a phone

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Speaker 1: that has thousands of pictures and videos of me doing

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Speaker 1: fun things and traveling to places that I love. And

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Speaker 1: I have a calendar downstairs of all my upcoming events

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Speaker 1: and vacations that I'm so excited for my life is

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Speaker 1: good and it's beautiful. And yet, and yet when I evaluate,

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Speaker 1: when I think, should I be happy? Do I deserve

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Speaker 1: to be happy?

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Speaker 3: Should I be proud of where I am right now?

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Speaker 1: This is what tops the less stuff considerations.

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Speaker 3: This it's bullshit.

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Speaker 4: It's all bullshit.

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Speaker 1: That's the truth.

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Speaker 3: It's it is. It is a bullshit, But we do it.

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Speaker 2: We waste so much time self sabotaging ourselves that it

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Speaker 2: is exhausting. And it's not our fault, you know, in

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Speaker 2: the same way that Johann Hari spoke about in his

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Speaker 2: book Stolen Focus. It's not our fault that we are

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Speaker 2: drawn to technology and social media and it's consuming us.

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Speaker 2: That's what it's designed to do. In the same way

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Speaker 2: that the social media and a whole lot of advertising,

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Speaker 2: all that kind of trope is designed to make us

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Speaker 2: question ourselves, to be unhappy, to want to choose other

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Speaker 2: and it's a really hard thing to escape. It's a

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Speaker 2: really hard thing to reprogram and our rational brains, as women,

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Speaker 2: tell us this stuff isn't important, and yet it does

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Speaker 2: it to us every time. When you think of the

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Speaker 2: attractive women, you know, what do you think of Brendan,

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Speaker 2: do you i'd like to think that. No, you answer

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Speaker 2: the question and then I'll say what i'd like you

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Speaker 2: to think.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the attractive women. Yeah, what is it that you

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Speaker 3: find attractive in a person? I have good sense of humor? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, nice features?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you like personality, shall drive humor, character, self confidence.

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Speaker 2: If you can fake self confidence, really you've got everything.

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Speaker 2: But they're the attributes that we all look for in

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Speaker 2: each other.

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Speaker 3: What are you thinking that I'm not going to say

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Speaker 3: you're not looking for a flat stomach. No, I appreciate

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Speaker 3: women flat stomachs, but I appreciate women with big Styes. Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't bother me here.

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Speaker 2: What's so weird is that we don't judge. Maybe some

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Speaker 2: women do, but I think we're all too busy looking

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Speaker 2: at ourselves that we don't care what other women look like.

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Speaker 3: We just judge ourselves for this stuff. It's all about you.

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Speaker 2: Emma Thompson. When she was in Australia recently, we interviewed

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Speaker 2: her her new film, where she talks a lot about

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Speaker 2: female body image. She says, some wonderful things.

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Speaker 4: We're not good at accepting our bodies, and particularly women

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Speaker 4: whose status is related to body image and the iconography

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Speaker 4: and bloody, bloody blood. It's all very boring and a

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Speaker 4: waste of our time and energy, frankly, and life's purpose.

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Speaker 4: Don't waste your time. Don't waste your life's purpose worrying

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Speaker 4: about your body. This is your vessel, it's your house,

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Speaker 4: it's where you live.

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Speaker 3: There's no points in.

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Speaker 4: Judging it, absolutely no point.

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Speaker 2: And when you get to your final day and you're

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Speaker 2: lying on your deathbed, you're not going to say I

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Speaker 2: wish I'd worried more about my stomach. What you are

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Speaker 2: going to say is I wish I taken more photos

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Speaker 2: of my lunch and put that on Instagram exactly.

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Speaker 3: But you know, if it was a man, he'd be

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Speaker 3: proud of it.

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Speaker 2: You would go on to TikTok and there'll be a

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Speaker 2: million TikTok videos of guys with ginormous guts go and

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Speaker 2: how good is this? Yes, and we're going to go,

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Speaker 2: you're funny, that's okay. And so we need to be

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Speaker 2: kinder to ourselves. Some of that's what the comments were

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Speaker 2: saying yesterday is let's make twenty twenty three the year

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Speaker 2: that we're kinded to ourselves. It's too exhausting and self

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Speaker 2: sabotaging to be anything else.