WEBVTT - Sydney D2: Filthy’, ‘dumb’ batting precedes Stokes-Marnus skirmish 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to The Unplayable Podcast. Day two here at the SCG,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a great day for batting. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds to Joe Root, nearly one hundred to Travis Head

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<v Speaker 1>and plenty more action in between. Louis Cameron is with

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<v Speaker 1>me Josh on a finger and I want to start

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<v Speaker 1>lou with maybe the biggest talking point of the day, certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the thing that got us talking in the

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<v Speaker 1>press box. It was the Ben Stokes Marnus Labushane confrontation

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<v Speaker 1>in the final session. Yeah, do you want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>us through what happened there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well I wasn't one hundred percent sure where you

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<v Speaker 2>were going there because I felt like you could potentially

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<v Speaker 2>make four different topics. The biggest talking point of the

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<v Speaker 2>day the Jamie Smith wicket. Yeah, that the Marnus Labushane

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<v Speaker 2>and Ben Stokes kind of spat. But then Roote and

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<v Speaker 2>Head make contrasting, you know, excellent, excellent Knox. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about that because that's probably the one that

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<v Speaker 2>people love. People love a bit of bifo, don't they.

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<v Speaker 1>And and there was a bit of physical alter co.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's right, yeah, And I'd be interested to get

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on where you thought that went. But how

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of went down was Stokes amide a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of out of control bowling effort from England like it.

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<v Speaker 2>They looked really ragged out there today, I thought, apart

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<v Speaker 2>from Stokes himself, I mean, he got the two wickets again,

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<v Speaker 2>had to kind of dig his side out of trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>He is this team's best bowler, and that might even

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<v Speaker 2>be the case when they've got when they're at full strength,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're nowhere near full strength with the three quicks

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<v Speaker 2>they've got out there, the three front line quicks. But

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<v Speaker 2>he concedes a second boundary in a row I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was, or second boundary in as many balls off

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<v Speaker 2>Travis Head. This one was at a battle legs up line.

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<v Speaker 2>He thought it was a chance of hitting the stumps.

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<v Speaker 2>Head squeezes down on it. Another four past fine leg

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<v Speaker 2>and things are starting to get out of control. Marnus

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<v Speaker 2>Labushain's at the non strikers and kind of comes down

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<v Speaker 2>the wicked And this is where we don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>happened exactly. He has said something it looked like to

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<v Speaker 2>Travis Head some kind of you know, words of encouragement potentially,

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<v Speaker 2>but we don't know. It might have said something that

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<v Speaker 2>rolled up Stokes. Always intended to roll up Stokes, and

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<v Speaker 2>it did roll up. He's kind of turned around and

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<v Speaker 2>gone back at Marnas, and you know, Maru's looked a

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<v Speaker 2>bit nonplussed, which makes me think that he probably didn't

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<v Speaker 2>intend to elicit the response, and he got so as

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<v Speaker 2>Stokes is walking back to his mark, it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>Stokes goes back for a bit more. Marnus holds his

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<v Speaker 2>ground and then look the physical contact I might read

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<v Speaker 2>was that Stokes couldn't hear him. You know, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>loud out there. The crowd would have been kind of buzzing,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when they sensed a bit of drama. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he has then put his arm around Marnas's shoulder to

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<v Speaker 2>hear him better, because Marnus didn't look affronted by the

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<v Speaker 2>physical contact. But yeah, did you think that was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of overboard.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I think it looked like it could have escalated

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<v Speaker 1>when he did go to put his arm around. And

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<v Speaker 1>Mark will made a good point on the Fox coverage

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<v Speaker 1>that when Stokes had his arm on the neck of

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<v Speaker 1>he did give it a bit of a squeeze. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it wasn't completely soft and friendly. So yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>bit unusual to see that on a cricket field, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sure sort of row stand on it,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I saw it. Lysia Heally as well on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>said that you know that referee might need to get

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<v Speaker 2>involved here if it is as we suspect, if the

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<v Speaker 2>incident is roughly along the lines of what we've just

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<v Speaker 2>spoken about in terms of, yeah, Stokes has got annoyed

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<v Speaker 2>with something Marnus has said, Marnus has had a few

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<v Speaker 2>words back, Stokes has kept going nothing too out of

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<v Speaker 2>line there, from a bit of normal argibargie in that spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I Stokes was there just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>hear him like just say, hey mate, what did you

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<v Speaker 2>actually say, Like, let's make sure we're on the same

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<v Speaker 2>page here. Then I really think it's fine. I really

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I mean it's very different to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Sam Constance versus very coally thing last year at

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<v Speaker 2>the MCG or last season at the MCG, and even

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<v Speaker 2>the conscious versus the entire Indian team late on was

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<v Speaker 2>it day one or two of that SCG test, when

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<v Speaker 2>Boomra and the whole Hindian team kind of rounded on

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<v Speaker 2>him like that. There were elements there that felt like intimidating.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, certainly the Khalie bumping into it, bumping into

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<v Speaker 2>Constas was intimidating. So yeah, I didn't think I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a big problem if the incident was as we suspect.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And when Lavashane and Head were talking to the

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<v Speaker 1>umpires after Stokes left the area, the cameras just showed

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<v Speaker 1>Labashane smiling and laughing, as if to say that there

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<v Speaker 1>was nothing poorly intended about it. I noticed earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>the day Carry o'keef said that it looked like the

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<v Speaker 1>pitch had a bit of extra testosterone and today and

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Rout said it was tricky it's about today. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there was extra testosterone as well as that wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ben Stokes, yeah, as you said, it was great

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<v Speaker 1>with the ball. But he ended up getting the wicked

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<v Speaker 1>of Labors Shane. So if there was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of nigger there from Manas it did backfire on.

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<v Speaker 2>It took a lot of self control, I reckon from

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<v Speaker 2>Stokes not to give Manus an absolute godful because yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's run past him and he's just stared at him.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he chose the right the right course

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<v Speaker 2>of action because having been in that position before at

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<v Speaker 2>a much lower level of cricket. Of course, Josh, you

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<v Speaker 2>just know when you get one over the batter and

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<v Speaker 2>you dismiss them like you just feel like you're king

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<v Speaker 2>of the world, you want to give them an absolute

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<v Speaker 2>sound off, at least I have when I've been in

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<v Speaker 2>that position before, and that might have actually made the mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, he showed a lot of self control and

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<v Speaker 2>like it shouldn't take away from from an excellent performance

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<v Speaker 2>from Stokes because he had to put his team on

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<v Speaker 2>his back there, Like the way trav just blitzed them everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Matthew Potts in particular was poor. We've kind

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<v Speaker 2>of wandered on this podcast. You know, why has any

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<v Speaker 2>played earlier? Well, I think we saw why he hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>played earlier. Albeit you know, maybe there's some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>nets Russ. He's been out here for almost two months

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<v Speaker 2>and hasn't played a game. They haven't really I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think even was he one of the ones who went

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<v Speaker 2>He went to so, I mean, would he bowled eight

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<v Speaker 2>ten overs in that in two months? You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a bit rusty, but you know this might be

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<v Speaker 2>his one kind of ash's opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>A bit of a sidebar. But how much would you

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<v Speaker 1>pay for full access to the stunt microphones? Oh and

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<v Speaker 1>again dame like this, I mean you'd hear some stuff

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<v Speaker 1>withn't here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you wonder whether the stunt mike would have picked

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<v Speaker 2>up all of what was going on there because it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of mid pitch. But yeah, that would be

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<v Speaker 2>a that would be something you could jarge a lot for.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Travis Head's innings, because he finished the

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<v Speaker 1>day ninety one not out off only eighty seven balls.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he hit fifteen to four. Some of the

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<v Speaker 1>shots that he was hitting. I mean, Joe Root's innings

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<v Speaker 1>was described as classical. Today you can't really describe Travis

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<v Speaker 1>Head's banging as classical. There were some shots where he

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<v Speaker 1>was airborne. Both feed off the ground and he still

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<v Speaker 1>got it to the rope. There was this little squad

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<v Speaker 1>drive where he sort of crouches down and still squirts

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<v Speaker 1>it through the off side. And then that one league

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<v Speaker 1>pull shot right at the start of his innings. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was pretty nice to watch, it must say,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get that one day up and get the

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<v Speaker 1>balls over to the squarely grope.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm completely different to what we saw from Joe Root,

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<v Speaker 2>but in some ways they are. Well, maybe in one

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<v Speaker 2>way they're similar. You bowl like a good length ball

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<v Speaker 2>or just short with any width outside of stump, even

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<v Speaker 2>a three and a half stump line ball that goes

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<v Speaker 2>for for a lot of the time, and it's the

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<v Speaker 2>same for route as well, like he when he was

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<v Speaker 2>going today and yesterday, like any width and he was

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<v Speaker 2>able to kind of put it either side of point

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<v Speaker 2>and get boundaries or at least get off strike. So

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<v Speaker 2>just the way they do it is completely different. But

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<v Speaker 2>in many respects it's equally difficult to bowl to. And

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing I thought he did just showed great

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<v Speaker 2>judgment on the balls he drove at like he it

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<v Speaker 2>never feels like he's outright, so well, maybe Perth it

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<v Speaker 2>felt like it was at right sogging when they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to get that win inside the second day. But it

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<v Speaker 2>felt very much in control, and he's only the margin

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<v Speaker 2>of for error is very small. But when you miss,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he punishes you. And he kind of only

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<v Speaker 2>drives when it's very full. And then, yeah, we spoke

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<v Speaker 2>about it punishes kind of with so brutal innings, like

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<v Speaker 2>it felt like he was going to score a century

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<v Speaker 2>in a session. If it wasn't for some very good

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<v Speaker 2>Night Watchman work from Michael Nisa, he would have got there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Yeah, a bit of a surprise to see

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<v Speaker 1>these to come out. Scott Bomer has been the regular

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<v Speaker 1>Night Watchman and then Nissa explained to us at the

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<v Speaker 1>press conference that he was no watchman, so that Stark

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't batting eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of see how you understood that. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what he said. Yeah, because it's a very deep

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<v Speaker 2>batting lineup that they've got, it would be what would

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<v Speaker 2>have been Nisa at nine, stuck at ten ordinarily because

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<v Speaker 2>you've got Webs at eight. Yeah, I kind of I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that, like Stark is averaging thirty for the thirty

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<v Speaker 2>or twenty five this year had to think, yeah, more

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<v Speaker 2>than whether all, I think maybe more than maybe less

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<v Speaker 2>than Manus after today, But the guy's hitting him very well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I was kind of surprised that they went

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<v Speaker 2>with Webster at eight in this team in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought like they could have picked a spinner

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<v Speaker 2>as a bit of a free swing, just given like

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<v Speaker 2>the very deep batting they'd already have in a team

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<v Speaker 2>with Nissa and Stuck in it. So it does make

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<v Speaker 2>sense you don't want to have Stark stranded at number eleven. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's true when he's really contributing with the bat. So

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<v Speaker 2>that made a lot of sense. I guess you might

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<v Speaker 2>feel like he's slightly overqualified for the job, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>gotten through. And would you're all out of a Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Nicea Test Century Day three?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, wouldn't that be something? He faced fifteen of the

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<v Speaker 1>last nineteen balls or the day, as he said, did

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<v Speaker 1>his job to perfection. He was hit on the arm,

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<v Speaker 1>which ended up finishing the day five balls earlier. He

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<v Speaker 1>said he was okay. So for the Michael Nisa fans

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<v Speaker 1>out there, he will be okay to continue to borrow,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe a bit of smart games there as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon. Well, we were kind of wondering about that

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<v Speaker 2>because Nissa is, you know, such a tough unit and

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<v Speaker 2>it just feels like he doesn't have that bluff in him.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when Zach Crawley did it, was it at

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<v Speaker 2>Lord's earlier this year, where he he just wasted you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you got hit on the fingers and just wasted time essentially.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he subsequently admitted to doing as much. If

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<v Speaker 2>Crawley was doing it, you would kind of believe that

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<v Speaker 2>it was a bit of a bit of a bluff

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<v Speaker 2>and a bit of a time wasting tactic. But with Nisa,

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<v Speaker 2>he just feels like too nice a guy and too

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<v Speaker 2>honest a bloke to you know, a show and pain

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<v Speaker 2>but also be you know, bend the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we'll mark down Michael Nie a hundred. You

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<v Speaker 1>heard that here, put that in. Well, the other big

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<v Speaker 1>talking point you touched on off the top was the

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Smith dismissal. Today, I will get you to talk

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<v Speaker 1>through it. But England, we're in a really strong position

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<v Speaker 1>at that point of the game. He was during a

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four unpartnership with Joe Root England, Yeah, bossing the game.

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<v Speaker 1>They were looking at over four hund in their first innings,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Manus Labashan comes onto bowl in the lead

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<v Speaker 1>up to the second new ball boyling a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>short stuff and somehow ekes out a wicket.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to play a game here with this one, Josh?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just turning my laptop screen away from you

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<v Speaker 2>so you can't cheat. I'm going to read out four

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<v Speaker 2>different descriptions of either the shot or the bowling of

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<v Speaker 2>Marnas and I want you to and then give you

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<v Speaker 2>four former Test players and you've got to match the

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<v Speaker 2>former Test players with the description. So I've got brainless

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<v Speaker 2>as my first one got dumb, is my second one

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<v Speaker 2>filthy and rubbish. Now the former players are Justin Langer, Brettley,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Taylor and Stephen Finn. So both sides of the

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<v Speaker 2>ashes divide are piling into the Jamie Smith and or

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<v Speaker 2>Manus Labushane's bowling well filthy?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you give me the Aussies again? That's definitely an

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<v Speaker 1>aussy Lee Langer Taylor, that's Brett Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>That's well done done.

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<v Speaker 1>Brainless feels like something in English person who would say.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you bluffing? Did you read this before? This is

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<v Speaker 2>very good Yeah, that's Stephen Finn the other two. So

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<v Speaker 2>you've got dumb and rubbish and you've got Mark Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>and Justin Langer j L.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to say, he's going to say dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>Well done. Yeah, I think it's not the first time

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<v Speaker 2>he's used that. He's said dumb batting. I think maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the last test about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Harry Brooks batting yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point he's double down on it today and

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<v Speaker 2>then yeah, you've got rubbish. I think that was a

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<v Speaker 2>description of the bowling Mark Taylor. Actually that's a great

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<v Speaker 2>clip if you watch. It's on Triple M Socials. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it ended up in our live blog. Mark Taylor said,

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<v Speaker 2>this is exactly the kind of rubbish bowling that gets

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<v Speaker 2>wickets the next ball. Yeah, I mean all of the above, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like Marnison and Travis Head that part. What is it

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<v Speaker 2>about those two? They were the two that got hundred

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<v Speaker 2>soaks his skin later in the day. They're the two

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<v Speaker 2>of the famous World Cup final combination that won Australia

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<v Speaker 2>that that title in the Metabad and here they've come

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<v Speaker 2>on to bowl, you know, a bit of filth in

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<v Speaker 2>some respects just to tie Australia over to the second

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<v Speaker 2>U ball was also in the lead into lunch, so

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<v Speaker 2>and England kind of saw an opportunity a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>is what Joe Route later said, although I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>that might be a bit of revision. It's history and

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<v Speaker 2>you know they're mostly knocking it around, you know, Jamie Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I'd have to look back, but I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like he wasn't. It didn't look like he was

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<v Speaker 2>desperately trying to score runs off it. But yeah, Marnus

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<v Speaker 2>is bowling with his you know, the short ball field

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<v Speaker 2>and he can actually get the speeds up a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit on this ball I think was one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine, so not absolutely slow, but also not the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of pace you would expect to trouble a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who averages over forty in Test cricket and he's tried

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<v Speaker 2>to basically baseball bat it down the ground, probably have

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<v Speaker 2>a mid off or straight back at the side screen

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<v Speaker 2>and miscuse it. And Scott Boland, I mean Scott Bowland.

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<v Speaker 2>You know he's a decent fielder, but in this team

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<v Speaker 2>he's probably the least athletic, maybe Usma Kwaija, so you're

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<v Speaker 2>probably putting those two in your least likely spots to

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<v Speaker 2>get a catch, and that's where the catch went. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you just it's hard to defend.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the pilot has already started. I've seen some articles

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<v Speaker 1>around saying it's easily the worst is English dismissal of

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<v Speaker 1>the summer, and there's been plenty of the cheers from

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<v Speaker 1>some have been calling it the worst dismissal of the decade,

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<v Speaker 1>So certainly there will be plenty to talk about about

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<v Speaker 1>that dismissal. When he was out at five for three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty, that becoming six for three hundred and twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>England lost their last five we gets for sixty runs

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<v Speaker 1>and on a good batting strip, desperately needed to put

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<v Speaker 1>on a good first innings total and they didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's the key point here is, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can debate the merits of him trying to attack

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<v Speaker 2>Australia in that situation. I think there's some merit in that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see what Joe Root is saying about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But equally, like you've got to be responsible for your

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<v Speaker 2>actions and okay, like that's you've got Will Jacks behind you,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're basically down to your last recognized batters. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>is there a case for the long game? That's not

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<v Speaker 2>something this England team seemed to think about a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, is there a case to get to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the second new ball with two set batters and

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<v Speaker 2>then relaunch from there or even attack the second new ball,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's something Jamie Smith did reasonably well in Adelaide.

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<v Speaker 2>He got a lot of grief I think for how

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<v Speaker 2>he went out in Adelaide that I think that was

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<v Speaker 2>to the second new ball when Mitchell start and again

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<v Speaker 2>that was pulling. Look, they were chasing what was it

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<v Speaker 2>close to four hundred on that occasion, maybe three seventy

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<v Speaker 2>three eighty. They kind of needed to take a few

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<v Speaker 2>risks to get to that total. Here they were right

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<v Speaker 2>on top of Australia, like, what was it five for

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and twenty? You said, second new ball coming up?

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<v Speaker 2>Boland and Stark and to a lesser extent, Nisa of

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<v Speaker 2>all bowled a lot of overs in the series. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no spinner. Yeah, can you dig in and and absorbs

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<v Speaker 2>some pressure for a little bit. That's not what this

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<v Speaker 2>England team is really about, despite the fact they kept

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<v Speaker 2>talking about absorbing pressure. But Yeah. Again, it's just a

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<v Speaker 2>case of them having a really strong position in a

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<v Speaker 2>game and throwing it away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I guess you also have Joe Root at

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<v Speaker 1>the other end. He didn't look like any.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the biggest one and that like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably actually the best point you could possibly make

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<v Speaker 2>about it is Joe Roots ended up getting out playing

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<v Speaker 2>a shot he probably wouldn't have if they hadn't been eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they were eight down at that point, so

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<v Speaker 2>he had to attack and Australia to score some runs

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<v Speaker 2>because he was batting with Matthew Potts and then Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Tung after that not particularly recognized batters, so it's forced

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<v Speaker 2>him to do something different and he like he did

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<v Speaker 2>not offer a chance apart from his first ball which

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<v Speaker 2>he played that massive cover drive. You know, he barely

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<v Speaker 2>looked like getting out and that's bego. And it's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a theme like they left him left hanging

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<v Speaker 2>at the Gabba. He was one hundred and thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>not out there. And the famous one, of course is

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<v Speaker 2>edge Person twenty twenty three when they basically lost the

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<v Speaker 2>Test match on the back of Ben Stokes declaring on

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<v Speaker 2>him when he was that he was batting even better

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<v Speaker 2>than either of the two innings in this series. So

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<v Speaker 2>Route has a remarkable temperament to just kind of soak

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<v Speaker 2>all this in, to accept how his team plays, to

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<v Speaker 2>accept the highs of it and ride the frustrating loads

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<v Speaker 2>and not turn on his team mate. He's he's such

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<v Speaker 2>a classy guy. I've just got so much admiration for him,

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<v Speaker 2>because if he was a more selfish batter, he would

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<v Speaker 2>surely be going like, what are you guys? What are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing to me? I'm in the form of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm batting as good as he talked about maybe getting

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<v Speaker 2>to the twenty nine thirty ashes. I think it's twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nine thirty. He was at thirty thirty one. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>know that's a that's a long way away, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>going well enough that you think he could get there.

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<v Speaker 2>So classy guy, but yeah, surely some frustration there.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's England's all time leading round scorer and he's

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<v Speaker 1>been underutilized by England effectively. Incredible stuff. Really, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about his wicket he got So he got through that

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<v Speaker 1>second new ball with really no drama. Scottland was zipping

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<v Speaker 1>it around everywhere out of fact, I feel like he

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit unlucky not to get a wicket during

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<v Speaker 1>that spell. In the end, it was Michael Nissa who

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<v Speaker 1>came on. He wasn't given that second new ball even

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<v Speaker 1>though he was given the first new ball, so that

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit of a change from Australia. But Nissa

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<v Speaker 1>came in, bowleder short ball at route. It probably jumped

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<v Speaker 1>a bit more than his thought and then really athletic

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<v Speaker 1>court and bowl. Just another one to add to Nissa's

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<v Speaker 1>catalog there now, And he said that was a plan

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<v Speaker 1>that he'd been working on with Ezmond Kwaja just a

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<v Speaker 1>ball or two before. So isn't that nice when a

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<v Speaker 1>plant comes together?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was your question in the press conference and

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<v Speaker 2>a good one. And yeah, again it's route playing. He's

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<v Speaker 2>probably thinking about getting two there because I think they

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<v Speaker 2>had three guys out on the leg side and no

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<v Speaker 2>mid wickets, so if he bumps it into the leg side,

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<v Speaker 2>he can kind of scramble back for two. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was the first ball of an over as well,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know he's thinking about how can I maximize

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<v Speaker 2>my run scoring capacity with so few wickets left. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Nissa and he had to dive across the

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<v Speaker 2>wicket square as well, so it would have been kind

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<v Speaker 2>of hard on the old elbows. Such an athletic guys.

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<v Speaker 2>He's offered so much to Australia this series and I

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<v Speaker 2>think I saw. I'm not sure if it finished up

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<v Speaker 2>this way, but his bowling average has actually gone below

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Bowland's.

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<v Speaker 1>And they are absolutely right. They was pointed out by

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<v Speaker 1>colleague Adam Burnett. Scott Boland has eighty wickets at eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>point four to seven in Tests. Nissa He's up to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one wickets at seventeen point one nine, so just

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of the Victorian.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, there you go. And I'm in much smaller

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<v Speaker 2>sample size of course, but yeah, and speaks to a

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<v Speaker 2>wider thing in this series of Australia winning what is

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<v Speaker 2>it more three Tests now, I've you know, could be

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<v Speaker 2>four without Hazelwood and sorry they've won two Tests without

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<v Speaker 2>Hazewood and Cummins and the team commins came back and

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<v Speaker 2>played that one. But you know they're down to their

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<v Speaker 2>apart from Stark there, and this is a B grade

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<v Speaker 2>bowling attack. This is the Australia a bowling attack with

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<v Speaker 2>Mitchell Stark in it, no line, no commons, no hazewood.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we actually haven't spoken about that, weirdly

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<v Speaker 2>enough in this series of Yeah, Australia have had some

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<v Speaker 2>injury stuff. We've spoken about England bring this high octane

0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:09.440
<v Speaker 2>pace attack well, and none of them are here, you know, Stoke, Sorry, Wood, Archer,

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<v Speaker 2>Atkinson all gone and you know Australia in a in

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<v Speaker 2>a somewhat similar boat. Yet their b the reserve bowlers

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<v Speaker 2>are doing a much better job.

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<v Speaker 1>When Boland was zipping it around everywhere, Stewart Broad was

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<v Speaker 1>on sen and he said, honestly, guys, if Australia had

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<v Speaker 1>Cummins and Hazard, England would be all out for under

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<v Speaker 1>two fifty on this pitch.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's seeing of the backhanded compliment is He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh, you're doing well, but if this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're twenty ten team have done there.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just very good at needling. Australians is in it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a real art form.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's a wrap. On day two here at the

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<v Speaker 1>SCG Australia Trail by two hundred and eighteen runs, Travis

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<v Speaker 1>Head needs nine runs four that century. It would be

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<v Speaker 1>his third of the Ashes. Summer play is going to

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<v Speaker 1>begin at ten o'clock Eastern time again tomorrow, so don't

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<v Speaker 1>miss the first ball and catch up to play.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, And let's hope that we're not necessarily talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Big Bash Gridley at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can talk about it anyway because it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like yesterday I've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>time playing Big Bash Gridley because it rained so much.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you don't get the opportunity, if we don't

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<v Speaker 2>get the opportunity to play Big Bash Gridley, that's because

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<v Speaker 2>we've had lots of play.

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<v Speaker 1>And hopefully we're talking about Michael Nieces.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see