1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: The Unplayable Podcast is proudly presented by quantas the official 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: podcast partner and the official airline partner of Cricket Australia. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: Once again this season, Quantus is prouds Toby be flying 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Australia's cricketers as they take on the world. Hello everybody, 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Unplayable Podcast. Day two here at the SCG, 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: and it was a great day for batting. We saw 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: hundreds to Joe Root, nearly one hundred to Travis Head 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: and plenty more action in between. Louis Cameron is with 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: me Josh on a finger and I want to start 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: lou with maybe the biggest talking point of the day, certainly, 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: it was the thing that got us talking in the 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: press box. It was the Ben Stokes Marnus Labushane confrontation 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: in the final session. Yeah, do you want to talk 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: us through what happened there? 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well I wasn't one hundred percent sure where you 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: were going there because I felt like you could potentially 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: make four different topics. The biggest talking point of the 18 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: day the Jamie Smith wicket. Yeah, that the Marnus Labushane 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: and Ben Stokes kind of spat. But then Roote and 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: Head make contrasting, you know, excellent, excellent Knox. So yeah, 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: let's talk about that because that's probably the one that 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 2: people love. People love a bit of bifo, don't they. 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: And and there was a bit of physical alter co. 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: Well that's right, yeah, And I'd be interested to get 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: your thoughts on where you thought that went. But how 26 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 2: it kind of went down was Stokes amide a kind 27 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: of out of control bowling effort from England like it. 28 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: They looked really ragged out there today, I thought, apart 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: from Stokes himself, I mean, he got the two wickets again, 30 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: had to kind of dig his side out of trouble. 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: He is this team's best bowler, and that might even 32 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: be the case when they've got when they're at full strength, 33 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: and they're nowhere near full strength with the three quicks 34 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: they've got out there, the three front line quicks. But 35 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: he concedes a second boundary in a row I think 36 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: it was, or second boundary in as many balls off 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: Travis Head. This one was at a battle legs up line. 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: He thought it was a chance of hitting the stumps. 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: Head squeezes down on it. Another four past fine leg 40 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: and things are starting to get out of control. Marnus 41 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: Labushain's at the non strikers and kind of comes down 42 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: the wicked And this is where we don't know what 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: happened exactly. He has said something it looked like to 44 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: Travis Head some kind of you know, words of encouragement potentially, 45 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: but we don't know. It might have said something that 46 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: rolled up Stokes. Always intended to roll up Stokes, and 47 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: it did roll up. He's kind of turned around and 48 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: gone back at Marnas, and you know, Maru's looked a 49 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: bit nonplussed, which makes me think that he probably didn't 50 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: intend to elicit the response, and he got so as 51 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: Stokes is walking back to his mark, it looks like 52 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: Stokes goes back for a bit more. Marnus holds his 53 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: ground and then look the physical contact I might read 54 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: was that Stokes couldn't hear him. You know, it's a 55 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: loud out there. The crowd would have been kind of buzzing, 56 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: especially when they sensed a bit of drama. I think 57 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: he has then put his arm around Marnas's shoulder to 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: hear him better, because Marnus didn't look affronted by the 59 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: physical contact. But yeah, did you think that was kind 60 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: of overboard. 61 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: Now, I think it looked like it could have escalated 62 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: when he did go to put his arm around. And 63 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: Mark will made a good point on the Fox coverage 64 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: that when Stokes had his arm on the neck of 65 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: he did give it a bit of a squeeze. It 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't completely soft and friendly. So yeah, a 67 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: bit unusual to see that on a cricket field, isn't it. 68 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure sort of row stand on it, 69 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: but yeah. 70 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: Well I saw it. Lysia Heally as well on Fox 71 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: said that you know that referee might need to get 72 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: involved here if it is as we suspect, if the 73 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: incident is roughly along the lines of what we've just 74 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: spoken about in terms of, yeah, Stokes has got annoyed 75 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: with something Marnus has said, Marnus has had a few 76 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: words back, Stokes has kept going nothing too out of 77 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: line there, from a bit of normal argibargie in that spirit. 78 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: And you know, I Stokes was there just trying to 79 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: hear him like just say, hey mate, what did you 80 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: actually say, Like, let's make sure we're on the same 81 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: page here. Then I really think it's fine. I really 82 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: don't think I mean it's very different to say, you know, 83 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: the Sam Constance versus very coally thing last year at 84 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: the MCG or last season at the MCG, and even 85 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: the conscious versus the entire Indian team late on was 86 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: it day one or two of that SCG test, when 87 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 2: Boomra and the whole Hindian team kind of rounded on 88 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: him like that. There were elements there that felt like intimidating. 89 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: I mean, certainly the Khalie bumping into it, bumping into 90 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: Constas was intimidating. So yeah, I didn't think I didn't 91 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: have a big problem if the incident was as we suspect. 92 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And when Lavashane and Head were talking to the 93 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: umpires after Stokes left the area, the cameras just showed 94 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: Labashane smiling and laughing, as if to say that there 95 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: was nothing poorly intended about it. I noticed earlier in 96 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: the day Carry o'keef said that it looked like the 97 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: pitch had a bit of extra testosterone and today and 98 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: Joe Rout said it was tricky it's about today. Well, 99 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: there was extra testosterone as well as that wasn't there. 100 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: So Ben Stokes, yeah, as you said, it was great 101 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,559 Speaker 1: with the ball. But he ended up getting the wicked 102 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: of Labors Shane. So if there was a little bit 103 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: of nigger there from Manas it did backfire on. 104 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: It took a lot of self control, I reckon from 105 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: Stokes not to give Manus an absolute godful because yeah, 106 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: he's run past him and he's just stared at him. 107 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: And I think he chose the right the right course 108 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: of action because having been in that position before at 109 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: a much lower level of cricket. Of course, Josh, you 110 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 2: just know when you get one over the batter and 111 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: you dismiss them like you just feel like you're king 112 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: of the world, you want to give them an absolute 113 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: sound off, at least I have when I've been in 114 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: that position before, and that might have actually made the mistake. 115 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, he showed a lot of self control and 116 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: like it shouldn't take away from from an excellent performance 117 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: from Stokes because he had to put his team on 118 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: his back there, Like the way trav just blitzed them everywhere. 119 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: You know, Matthew Potts in particular was poor. We've kind 120 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: of wandered on this podcast. You know, why has any 121 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: played earlier? Well, I think we saw why he hasn't 122 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: played earlier. Albeit you know, maybe there's some kind of 123 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: nets Russ. He's been out here for almost two months 124 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: and hasn't played a game. They haven't really I don't 125 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: think even was he one of the ones who went 126 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: He went to so, I mean, would he bowled eight 127 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: ten overs in that in two months? You're going to 128 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: be a bit rusty, but you know this might be 129 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: his one kind of ash's opportunity. 130 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: A bit of a sidebar. But how much would you 131 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: pay for full access to the stunt microphones? Oh and 132 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: again dame like this, I mean you'd hear some stuff 133 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: withn't here. 134 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you wonder whether the stunt mike would have picked 135 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: up all of what was going on there because it 136 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: was kind of mid pitch. But yeah, that would be 137 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: a that would be something you could jarge a lot for. 138 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Travis Head's innings, because he finished the 139 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: day ninety one not out off only eighty seven balls. 140 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: I mean he hit fifteen to four. Some of the 141 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 1: shots that he was hitting. I mean, Joe Root's innings 142 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: was described as classical. Today you can't really describe Travis 143 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: Head's banging as classical. There were some shots where he 144 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: was airborne. Both feed off the ground and he still 145 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: got it to the rope. There was this little squad 146 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: drive where he sort of crouches down and still squirts 147 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: it through the off side. And then that one league 148 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: pull shot right at the start of his innings. I mean, 149 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: that was that was pretty nice to watch, it must say, 150 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: when you get that one day up and get the 151 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: balls over to the squarely grope. 152 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm completely different to what we saw from Joe Root, 153 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: but in some ways they are. Well, maybe in one 154 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: way they're similar. You bowl like a good length ball 155 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: or just short with any width outside of stump, even 156 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: a three and a half stump line ball that goes 157 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: for for a lot of the time, and it's the 158 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: same for route as well, like he when he was 159 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: going today and yesterday, like any width and he was 160 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: able to kind of put it either side of point 161 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: and get boundaries or at least get off strike. So 162 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: just the way they do it is completely different. But 163 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: in many respects it's equally difficult to bowl to. And 164 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: the other thing I thought he did just showed great 165 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: judgment on the balls he drove at like he it 166 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: never feels like he's outright, so well, maybe Perth it 167 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: felt like it was at right sogging when they wanted 168 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: to get that win inside the second day. But it 169 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: felt very much in control, and he's only the margin 170 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: of for error is very small. But when you miss, 171 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: you know, he punishes you. And he kind of only 172 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: drives when it's very full. And then, yeah, we spoke 173 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: about it punishes kind of with so brutal innings, like 174 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: it felt like he was going to score a century 175 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: in a session. If it wasn't for some very good 176 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: Night Watchman work from Michael Nisa, he would have got there. 177 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, a bit of a surprise to see 178 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: these to come out. Scott Bomer has been the regular 179 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: Night Watchman and then Nissa explained to us at the 180 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: press conference that he was no watchman, so that Stark 181 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: wasn't batting eleven. 182 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: I kind of see how you understood that. Yeah, that's 183 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: exactly what he said. Yeah, because it's a very deep 184 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: batting lineup that they've got, it would be what would 185 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: have been Nisa at nine, stuck at ten ordinarily because 186 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: you've got Webs at eight. Yeah, I kind of I 187 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: mean that, like Stark is averaging thirty for the thirty 188 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: or twenty five this year had to think, yeah, more 189 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: than whether all, I think maybe more than maybe less 190 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: than Manus after today, But the guy's hitting him very well. 191 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: That's why I was kind of surprised that they went 192 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: with Webster at eight in this team in the first place. 193 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: I just thought like they could have picked a spinner 194 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: as a bit of a free swing, just given like 195 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: the very deep batting they'd already have in a team 196 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: with Nissa and Stuck in it. So it does make 197 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 2: sense you don't want to have Stark stranded at number eleven. Yeah, 198 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: that's true when he's really contributing with the bat. So 199 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: that made a lot of sense. I guess you might 200 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: feel like he's slightly overqualified for the job, but he's 201 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: gotten through. And would you're all out of a Michael 202 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: Nicea Test Century Day three? 203 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: Well, wouldn't that be something? He faced fifteen of the 204 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: last nineteen balls or the day, as he said, did 205 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: his job to perfection. He was hit on the arm, 206 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: which ended up finishing the day five balls earlier. He 207 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: said he was okay. So for the Michael Nisa fans 208 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: out there, he will be okay to continue to borrow, 209 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: but maybe a bit of smart games there as well. 210 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: I reckon. Well, we were kind of wondering about that 211 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: because Nissa is, you know, such a tough unit and 212 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: it just feels like he doesn't have that bluff in him. 213 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: You know, when Zach Crawley did it, was it at 214 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: Lord's earlier this year, where he he just wasted you know, 215 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: you got hit on the fingers and just wasted time essentially. 216 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: I think he subsequently admitted to doing as much. If 217 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 2: Crawley was doing it, you would kind of believe that 218 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: it was a bit of a bit of a bluff 219 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: and a bit of a time wasting tactic. But with Nisa, 220 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: he just feels like too nice a guy and too 221 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 2: honest a bloke to you know, a show and pain 222 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: but also be you know, bend the rules. 223 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so we'll mark down Michael Nie a hundred. You 224 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: heard that here, put that in. Well, the other big 225 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: talking point you touched on off the top was the 226 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: Jamie Smith dismissal. Today, I will get you to talk 227 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: through it. But England, we're in a really strong position 228 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: at that point of the game. He was during a 229 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: ninety four unpartnership with Joe Root England, Yeah, bossing the game. 230 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: They were looking at over four hund in their first innings, 231 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: and then Manus Labashan comes onto bowl in the lead 232 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: up to the second new ball boyling a lot of 233 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: short stuff and somehow ekes out a wicket. 234 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: Do you want to play a game here with this one, Josh? 235 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: And I'm just turning my laptop screen away from you 236 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: so you can't cheat. I'm going to read out four 237 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: different descriptions of either the shot or the bowling of 238 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: Marnas and I want you to and then give you 239 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: four former Test players and you've got to match the 240 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: former Test players with the description. So I've got brainless 241 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: as my first one got dumb, is my second one 242 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: filthy and rubbish. Now the former players are Justin Langer, Brettley, 243 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: Mark Taylor and Stephen Finn. So both sides of the 244 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: ashes divide are piling into the Jamie Smith and or 245 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: Manus Labushane's bowling well filthy? 246 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: Can you give me the Aussies again? That's definitely an 247 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: aussy Lee Langer Taylor, that's Brett Lee. 248 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 2: That's well done done. 249 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: Brainless feels like something in English person who would say. 250 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: Are you bluffing? Did you read this before? This is 251 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: very good Yeah, that's Stephen Finn the other two. So 252 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 2: you've got dumb and rubbish and you've got Mark Taylor 253 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: and Justin Langer j L. 254 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: He's going to say, he's going to say dumb. 255 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 2: Well done. Yeah, I think it's not the first time 256 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: he's used that. He's said dumb batting. I think maybe 257 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: the last test about it. 258 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: I think Harry Brooks batting yesterday. 259 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 2: At some point he's double down on it today and 260 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: then yeah, you've got rubbish. I think that was a 261 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: description of the bowling Mark Taylor. Actually that's a great 262 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: clip if you watch. It's on Triple M Socials. I 263 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: think it ended up in our live blog. Mark Taylor said, 264 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: this is exactly the kind of rubbish bowling that gets 265 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: wickets the next ball. Yeah, I mean all of the above, right, 266 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: Like Marnison and Travis Head that part. What is it 267 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: about those two? They were the two that got hundred 268 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: soaks his skin later in the day. They're the two 269 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,119 Speaker 2: of the famous World Cup final combination that won Australia 270 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: that that title in the Metabad and here they've come 271 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: on to bowl, you know, a bit of filth in 272 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: some respects just to tie Australia over to the second 273 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: U ball was also in the lead into lunch, so 274 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 2: and England kind of saw an opportunity a little bit, 275 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: is what Joe Route later said, although I feel like 276 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: that might be a bit of revision. It's history and 277 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: you know they're mostly knocking it around, you know, Jamie Smith, 278 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'd have to look back, but I 279 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 2: feel like he wasn't. It didn't look like he was 280 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: desperately trying to score runs off it. But yeah, Marnus 281 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: is bowling with his you know, the short ball field 282 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: and he can actually get the speeds up a little 283 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: bit on this ball I think was one hundred and 284 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: twenty nine, so not absolutely slow, but also not the 285 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: kind of pace you would expect to trouble a guy 286 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: who averages over forty in Test cricket and he's tried 287 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: to basically baseball bat it down the ground, probably have 288 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 2: a mid off or straight back at the side screen 289 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: and miscuse it. And Scott Boland, I mean Scott Bowland. 290 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: You know he's a decent fielder, but in this team 291 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: he's probably the least athletic, maybe Usma Kwaija, so you're 292 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: probably putting those two in your least likely spots to 293 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 2: get a catch, and that's where the catch went. I mean, yeah, 294 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: you just it's hard to defend. 295 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: Well, the pilot has already started. I've seen some articles 296 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: around saying it's easily the worst is English dismissal of 297 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: the summer, and there's been plenty of the cheers from 298 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: some have been calling it the worst dismissal of the decade, 299 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: So certainly there will be plenty to talk about about 300 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: that dismissal. When he was out at five for three 301 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty, that becoming six for three hundred and twenty, 302 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: England lost their last five we gets for sixty runs 303 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: and on a good batting strip, desperately needed to put 304 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: on a good first innings total and they didn't do it. 305 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: And I think that's the key point here is, Yeah, 306 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: you can debate the merits of him trying to attack 307 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: Australia in that situation. I think there's some merit in that. 308 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: I can see what Joe Root is saying about it. 309 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: But equally, like you've got to be responsible for your 310 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: actions and okay, like that's you've got Will Jacks behind you, 311 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: but you're basically down to your last recognized batters. You know, 312 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: is there a case for the long game? That's not 313 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: something this England team seemed to think about a lot. 314 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, is there a case to get to get 315 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: to the second new ball with two set batters and 316 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: then relaunch from there or even attack the second new ball, 317 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,239 Speaker 2: because that's something Jamie Smith did reasonably well in Adelaide. 318 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: He got a lot of grief I think for how 319 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: he went out in Adelaide that I think that was 320 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: to the second new ball when Mitchell start and again 321 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: that was pulling. Look, they were chasing what was it 322 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: close to four hundred on that occasion, maybe three seventy 323 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: three eighty. They kind of needed to take a few 324 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: risks to get to that total. Here they were right 325 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: on top of Australia, like, what was it five for 326 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty? You said, second new ball coming up? 327 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: Boland and Stark and to a lesser extent, Nisa of 328 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: all bowled a lot of overs in the series. There's 329 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: no spinner. Yeah, can you dig in and and absorbs 330 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: some pressure for a little bit. That's not what this 331 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: England team is really about, despite the fact they kept 332 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: talking about absorbing pressure. But Yeah. Again, it's just a 333 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: case of them having a really strong position in a 334 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: game and throwing it away. 335 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess you also have Joe Root at 336 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: the other end. He didn't look like any. 337 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the biggest one and that like, yeah, 338 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: that's probably actually the best point you could possibly make 339 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: about it is Joe Roots ended up getting out playing 340 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: a shot he probably wouldn't have if they hadn't been eight. 341 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: I think they were eight down at that point, so 342 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: he had to attack and Australia to score some runs 343 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: because he was batting with Matthew Potts and then Josh 344 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: Tung after that not particularly recognized batters, so it's forced 345 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: him to do something different and he like he did 346 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: not offer a chance apart from his first ball which 347 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: he played that massive cover drive. You know, he barely 348 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: looked like getting out and that's bego. And it's a 349 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: bit of a theme like they left him left hanging 350 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: at the Gabba. He was one hundred and thirty eight 351 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: not out there. And the famous one, of course is 352 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: edge Person twenty twenty three when they basically lost the 353 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: Test match on the back of Ben Stokes declaring on 354 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: him when he was that he was batting even better 355 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 2: than either of the two innings in this series. So 356 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: Route has a remarkable temperament to just kind of soak 357 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 2: all this in, to accept how his team plays, to 358 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: accept the highs of it and ride the frustrating loads 359 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: and not turn on his team mate. He's he's such 360 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: a classy guy. I've just got so much admiration for him, 361 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: because if he was a more selfish batter, he would 362 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: surely be going like, what are you guys? What are 363 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: you doing to me? I'm in the form of my life. 364 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 2: I'm batting as good as he talked about maybe getting 365 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: to the twenty nine thirty ashes. I think it's twenty 366 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: nine thirty. He was at thirty thirty one. Yeah, you 367 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 2: know that's a that's a long way away, and he's 368 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: going well enough that you think he could get there. 369 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 2: So classy guy, but yeah, surely some frustration there. 370 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: So he's England's all time leading round scorer and he's 371 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: been underutilized by England effectively. Incredible stuff. Really, let's talk 372 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: about his wicket he got So he got through that 373 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: second new ball with really no drama. Scottland was zipping 374 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: it around everywhere out of fact, I feel like he 375 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: was a bit unlucky not to get a wicket during 376 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: that spell. In the end, it was Michael Nissa who 377 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: came on. He wasn't given that second new ball even 378 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: though he was given the first new ball, so that 379 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: was a bit of a change from Australia. But Nissa 380 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: came in, bowleder short ball at route. It probably jumped 381 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: a bit more than his thought and then really athletic 382 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: court and bowl. Just another one to add to Nissa's 383 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: catalog there now, And he said that was a plan 384 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: that he'd been working on with Ezmond Kwaja just a 385 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: ball or two before. So isn't that nice when a 386 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: plant comes together? 387 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was your question in the press conference and 388 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: a good one. And yeah, again it's route playing. He's 389 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 2: probably thinking about getting two there because I think they 390 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: had three guys out on the leg side and no 391 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: mid wickets, so if he bumps it into the leg side, 392 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: he can kind of scramble back for two. I think 393 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: it was the first ball of an over as well, 394 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: so you know he's thinking about how can I maximize 395 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: my run scoring capacity with so few wickets left. But yeah, 396 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: I'm a Nissa and he had to dive across the 397 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: wicket square as well, so it would have been kind 398 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: of hard on the old elbows. Such an athletic guys. 399 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 2: He's offered so much to Australia this series and I 400 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: think I saw. I'm not sure if it finished up 401 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: this way, but his bowling average has actually gone below 402 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 2: Scott Bowland's. 403 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: And they are absolutely right. They was pointed out by 404 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: colleague Adam Burnett. Scott Boland has eighty wickets at eighteen 405 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: point four to seven in Tests. Nissa He's up to 406 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: twenty one wickets at seventeen point one nine, so just 407 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: ahead of the Victorian. 408 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, there you go. And I'm in much smaller 409 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: sample size of course, but yeah, and speaks to a 410 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: wider thing in this series of Australia winning what is 411 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 2: it more three Tests now, I've you know, could be 412 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: four without Hazelwood and sorry they've won two Tests without 413 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: Hazewood and Cummins and the team commins came back and 414 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 2: played that one. But you know they're down to their 415 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: apart from Stark there, and this is a B grade 416 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 2: bowling attack. This is the Australia a bowling attack with 417 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: Mitchell Stark in it, no line, no commons, no hazewood. 418 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: I feel like we actually haven't spoken about that, weirdly 419 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 2: enough in this series of Yeah, Australia have had some 420 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 2: injury stuff. We've spoken about England bring this high octane 421 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: pace attack well, and none of them are here, you know, Stoke, Sorry, Wood, Archer, 422 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: Atkinson all gone and you know Australia in a in 423 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 2: a somewhat similar boat. Yet their b the reserve bowlers 424 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: are doing a much better job. 425 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: When Boland was zipping it around everywhere, Stewart Broad was 426 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: on sen and he said, honestly, guys, if Australia had 427 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: Cummins and Hazard, England would be all out for under 428 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: two fifty on this pitch. 429 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: So he's seeing of the backhanded compliment is He's like, 430 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: He's like, oh, you're doing well, but if this thing, 431 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: you know, if you're twenty ten team have done there. 432 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: He's just very good at needling. Australians is in it. 433 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: It's a real art form. 434 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a wrap. On day two here at the 435 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: SCG Australia Trail by two hundred and eighteen runs, Travis 436 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: Head needs nine runs four that century. It would be 437 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: his third of the Ashes. Summer play is going to 438 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: begin at ten o'clock Eastern time again tomorrow, so don't 439 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: miss the first ball and catch up to play. 440 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 2: That's right, And let's hope that we're not necessarily talking 441 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: about Big Bash Gridley at the end of the day, 442 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 2: and we can talk about it anyway because it's fun. 443 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 2: Because I feel like yesterday I've got a lot of 444 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: time playing Big Bash Gridley because it rained so much. 445 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: So if you don't get the opportunity, if we don't 446 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 2: get the opportunity to play Big Bash Gridley, that's because 447 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: we've had lots of play. 448 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: And hopefully we're talking about Michael Nieces. 449 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 2: Let's see