1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: My name's Anatasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations woman 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: and I'm here to acknowledge country t Glenn Young Ganya Niana, 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: kaka ya Ya bin Ahaka Nian Our gay In Mbina, 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: yakarum Jar, Dominyama, Domagaowakaman, damon Imlan Bomber bang gadaboma In 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: and now in wakah ghana on yak rum jar Watnadaa. Hello, 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: beautiful friends, we gather on the lands of the Aboriginal people. 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: We thank acknowledge and respect the Abiginal people's land that 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: we're gathering on today. Take pleasure in all the land 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: and respect all that you see. She's on the Money 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: podcast acknowledges culture, country, community and connections, bringing you the tools, 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: knowledge and resources for you to thrive. 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: She's on the Money. She's on the Money. Hello, and 13 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast that lets 14 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: you be pervy about other people's investment portfolios for educational 15 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: purposes of course. Welcome back to another one of our 16 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: new investing diaries where I get to talk with one 17 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: of our incredible She's on the Money community members all 18 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: about their investing journey. Let's jump straight into it because 19 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: this week I got a message and I couldn't not reply, 20 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: She's on the show. It went like this, Hi, Victoria. 21 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: I knew zero about investing until twenty twenty, when we 22 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: were all stuck inside. Thanks to my Instagram algorithm, I 23 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: spent six months learning everything I could. I was listening 24 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: to She's on the Money, I was listening to my 25 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: millennial money, all of it before making my first investment. 26 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: I ended up investing fifty thousand dollars over four years, 27 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: with the goal of having one hundred thousand dollars invested 28 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: by the time I was thirty. Of course, life got 29 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: in the way. My savings were diverted to buying a 30 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: home and then a wedding. I stopped checking my portfolio 31 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 2: and I didn't invest for two whole years. But the 32 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: growth has been really impressive, and I would love to 33 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: share my real world experience of compounding interest money diarist, 34 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 2: I'm so excited for this. 35 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: Ah, thank you so much. I'm really excited to be 36 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: the first anonymous investing diary. 37 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: I think my favorite part about this is anonymous you 38 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: can get really pervy, like I feel like you and 39 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: I were talking off air before we started recording and 40 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: we're talking about Brooks Investing Diary from my team, and 41 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 2: that was fantastic. But I also held back a little 42 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: bit because I was like, well, I'll ask go about 43 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: all the shares, but I'm not going to be like, 44 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: well how many dollars have you got, because I don't 45 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: know there's a line when you're not anonymous, but when 46 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: you're anonymous, I can ask anything. It's so good and 47 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. So let's start at the top investing diarist. 48 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: I want to note obviously I have to be me, 49 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: tell me a little bit about your money story as well. 50 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: What was your life like before you start and investing, 51 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: and what was your attitude towards investing? 52 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: Sure, so I, you know, preparing for this diary, I 53 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: sort of was reflecting back to the time before investing, 54 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 3: the time before I sort of learned more about finances. 55 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 3: And I grew up in a big family and my 56 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: family were very sort of middle working class. My parents 57 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: just worked to government jobs, and I always just thought 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: money was you know, you earn a job, you save, 59 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: and then you live off your savings and that's it. 60 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: And like I said in my submission, it was actually 61 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 3: really mind blowing to learn that there are ways to 62 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: make your money stretch further, ways to make your money 63 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: work for you. So when I actually learned about investing 64 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: for the first time, I really thought, wow, I did 65 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: not realize that investing could be for someone like me. 66 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: It really had that association as being you know, guys 67 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 3: working on Wall Street and very male dominated, and so yeah, 68 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: I just think it was something I never been considered. 69 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: And I really had an attitude towards money that was 70 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: a little bit of a scarcity mindset, but also just 71 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: you know, money comes in, money goes out. I'm not 72 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: keeping track of it, and that's just the way that 73 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: it was always going to be. So I had to 74 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: do a lot of re education and learning about it 75 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: to really change my mindset. And I'm really proud of 76 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,839 Speaker 3: where I've come, and I had a lot to learn 77 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: and I still. 78 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: Do as well. What was that moment where you were like, 79 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: I want to learn about this because like you're obviously 80 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: stuck inside, we didn't have much to do. Some of 81 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: us me took up crochet, right, but you took up 82 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: financial literacy. And I feel like that's a choice, like 83 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: in a good way. That's a really good choice, But 84 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: did something prompt you to go there has to be 85 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: a better way, or there has to be, you know, 86 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: a way I can create wealth or like, how did 87 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: you fall into the slippery slope of finance content? 88 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 3: Well, I actually have the algorithm gods to thank for that. 89 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: So I remember being on my Instagram for you page. 90 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: I don't know what it's called, and I actually thought 91 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 3: graph and it was really just like very visually appealing, 92 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: and I can't remember it to this day. I just 93 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 3: remember thinking, he's a young girl who looks like me. 94 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: She's fun, she's friendly, she's making money, and investing seemed 95 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 3: really cool, and I thought, wow, it is actually so interesting, 96 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: and it got me really excited because I think her 97 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: graph was showing how much she'd invested, how much you'd grown, 98 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: and just the I guess, the potential of what investing 99 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 3: could bring. 100 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 2: So you kind of found someone online that was like, hey, 101 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: I'm making money, and you were like, hey, that doesn't 102 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: seem too complex. I could do that. Yeah, pretty much. 103 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: I know. Definitely investing at the beginning, it was quite intimidating, 104 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: even though I think at the time that's maybe when like, 105 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: you know, she's on the money. Was starting or had 106 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: just oh, had previously started same as my millennial money 107 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: I know comseec of pocket was starting off as well. 108 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: So it was a combination of a few things that 109 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: yeah opened the door for me and it actually made 110 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: it seem a little bit more appealing. But it took 111 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: me a while to actually make that first step and 112 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: make my first investment. 113 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: I love that. So tell me what were you doing 114 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: for work at the time and how much money were 115 00:05:59,240 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: you earning. 116 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: So I was working in marketing for a corporate company 117 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 3: and I was on about ninety k including. 118 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: Suva very cool. And if we looked at your budget, 119 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: did you have disposable income when you're cutting it fine? Like, 120 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: what kind of money situation were you in? 121 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: Well, it was a very very lucky time for me, 122 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: and I acknowledge very lucky and privileged. So I was 123 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 3: living at home, I was still twenty five, I hadn't 124 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: moved out, And it was actually COVID to make me 125 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: realize I have a lot of disposable income that previously 126 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: I had just been spending on clothes, consumers goods, going out, 127 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: spending drinking, and yeah, that's what I just really had 128 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: this like sort of I was always saving for a property, 129 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: my deposit, but I still gave myself a lot of 130 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: leeway and it took COVID for me to think, Wow, 131 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: where's my money going? And I remember I had a 132 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 3: friend at the time who said, you live at home, 133 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: you should have saved more or something like that, and 134 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: that really rude but also confronting. 135 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: Thank you for that. I feel attacked, but I'm also 136 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: going to get rich now. 137 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 3: It was actually really good wake up call because I 138 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: didn't feel the pressure, I think, to do anything with 139 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 3: my money except for you know, that very Australian dream 140 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: of you know, you buy a house, you buy a property, 141 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: and that's all I was really doing. But I actually 142 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: didn't really feel a drive either because it felt very 143 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: far away. 144 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: So how did you go from there to making your 145 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: first investment? 146 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: A lot of podcasts, so a lot of listening to 147 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: podcasts like She's on the Money, like I mentioned, am 148 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: I Millennial Money? So many of them, and just following 149 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: a lot of people on Instagram. So I guess Victoria 150 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: you probably will know as well. Around the same time, 151 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: there was a big growth in the Oussie finance Instagram community. 152 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: There was lots of young influencers. 153 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. And yes, like it was a really 154 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: good time for content, but it was also so rogue. 155 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: Like I'm looking back on that because at the time 156 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: I was a financial advisor and I'd review those posts 157 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: and be like, what are you guys doing? And now, 158 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: obviously there's been some acid reforming you need a license 159 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: and rah rah, But like it was a free for 160 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,559 Speaker 2: all for a fair bit there, Like you were getting 161 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: so much information. Doesn't mean it was correct, which was 162 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: half of the issue I had with it, but whatever, 163 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: like that's fun. You seem to be in a good 164 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: position now because of it. 165 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I definitely acknowledge at the time as well, 166 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: I probably wasn't even sure how much of that was 167 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: legit or whether it was just you know, hype to 168 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: get followers or clicks or engagement. So obviously it took 169 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: away a grain of salt. But it was really just 170 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: seeing people who were like me, young women or just 171 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: young people you know, actually sort of gabbling in this 172 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: space and hearing from experts like yourself who made it 173 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: sound something achievable for someone. 174 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: Like me, because it is, and then you're proving it. 175 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: So tell me, how did you go from their like 176 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: obviously making your first investment. You consumed heaps of content 177 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: and you were like, okay, well, I feel ready to 178 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: make my first investment. Why did you feel ready? Because 179 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: I feel like this is where, especially women, we get 180 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: like analysis paralysis, and we're like, okay, like I've researched 181 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: so much, and as you said before, like so many podcasts, 182 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 2: so much information. Sometimes that information can be too much, 183 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: and then you get I don't know, paralyzed into not 184 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: making a decision. How did you go, all right, I'm 185 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 2: going to download an investing platform and make my first investment. 186 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: It was also the very classic time of Spaceship and Raise, 187 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 3: so I just started with downloading Spaceship, which was a 188 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: micro investing platform, and a lot of the advice that 189 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: I was hearing was, you know, just start through your 190 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: two cents in, through your hat in the ring, and 191 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 3: just see what it looks like to get used to 192 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 3: that feeling of your money, you know, going up and down. 193 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: Love love, And you've probably heard me on the podcast 194 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: because you said you've been here for a while. I 195 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: call Spaceship and Raise the gateway drug of investing because 196 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: it doesn't feel that scary, right like when they're micro 197 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: investing platforms and you're like, well, it's just a few cents, 198 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: like or it's just a couple of dollars. And Spaceship 199 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: and Rays still exist today and a lot of our 200 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: communities still use and love them. But as I said, 201 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: they're kind of the gateway. And given how much you 202 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: have invested, I can almost guarantee you're no longer with 203 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 2: Spaceship or Rays. 204 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 3: Is that right? 205 00:09:58,520 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 206 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: So I yea. Honestly, it feels like so long ago. 207 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: But I think I was with Spaceship for a few 208 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 3: maybe three to six months, and then pulled my money out, 209 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: decided I should, you know, actually take a leap, and 210 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: I made the first step onto using a real platform, 211 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: and I invested my first one thousand dollars in Pocket. 212 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: Comsex Pocket out very cool. And are you still with 213 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: Comsex Pocket? 214 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: Yes, So I have branched out into Comsex so CBA's 215 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: actual investing platform. 216 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: She's upgraded, Yeah, upgraded. 217 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 3: The Big Girl platform. I do still have Pocket just 218 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: because I actually haven't sold anything that I've purchased. I've 219 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: still got all my shares. So I thought, just to 220 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 3: save the effort and the tax and everything, I'm just 221 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: going to leave. 222 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 2: It totally, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. For 223 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: those of you are playing along at home or in 224 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: your car, you might be like, well, what's the difference. 225 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: Comsex Pocket is an app that's been released by Comsec 226 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: that has a short list of atfs that you can 227 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: choose from. So instead of being overwhelmed by going on 228 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: the Comsec app, which has literally everything that is listed 229 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: on the ASX for you, which is very sexy but 230 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: can be overwhelming, they have I believe it's like eight 231 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: to twelve. I can't remember the actual number. I personally 232 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: don't use that platform. Doesn't mean it's bad. It's a 233 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 2: good platform, but it only gives you access to like 234 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: eight to twelve ETFs and then you pick what's in 235 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: line with your values and when you are starting your journey, 236 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: that can be really helpful. The other thing I will 237 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: say is because they're owned by the same company, my friend, 238 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: you could shoot comsecond email and say, hey, I've got 239 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: comcept Pocket and comsept can you just migrate them to 240 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: the same platform so that you only have one and 241 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: they will do what is called an interspecies transfer, where 242 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: they will transfer from one platform to another because they 243 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 2: own it. They're not going to care. They're keeping you 244 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: as a client, and your concept shares will then show 245 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: up on your comset account, which might just be good 246 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: for admin. 247 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 3: I'm going to have to write that down. That's a 248 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: really good tip for when I do my admin. 249 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: Now, AE hundred percent, And like I mean, if not 250 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: bad to have it across too. Like I have shared before, 251 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: I have a number of different investing platforms. I have 252 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 2: like my main one, but like to keep up with 253 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: the community, I need to have like fifty bucks in everything. 254 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: I need to be able to log into everyone else's 255 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: accounts and be like, oh, well this is how peerler 256 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: works or this is how comsept works. So I guarantee 257 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: I've got money on every platform, which, come tax time 258 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: is the biggest nightmare and my account wants to kill me. 259 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: But like that way, I know what's going on. Tell 260 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: me a bit more. You've gone from, you know, having 261 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: spaceship and I feel like this perfectly stereotypical. She's on 262 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: the money investing journey from going spaceship to comsext pocket 263 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: to the big girl comsec app. Are you feeling confident 264 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 2: about investing now? Is that something that you hit the 265 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: market with or is that something that's growing over time. 266 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: I would say I feel confident in it now just 267 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: because and maybe I'll get to this bit later. But 268 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: my approach and my strategy for investing is very much 269 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 3: seta and forget. I don't dabble with anything that's too crazy. 270 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 3: I'm not very speculative. I've got you know, diversified my 271 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: VDHD diversified High Growth fund. I've got a few ETFs 272 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 3: in concept pocket, like I mentioned, so some of the 273 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: very classic, well known NDQFI and I feel like I've 274 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: done a fair few trades now, not for a while, 275 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: which I'll also get to, but I really feel like 276 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: I know what to do, I know what I'm buying, 277 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: and once you actually make your first trade, for example, 278 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: on one of the official platforms, it's really easy to 279 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: get the hangoff because you're just essentially putting an order 280 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: in placing the order, and then it's in your account 281 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 3: and you get to see that. 282 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: I a kind it the other day to a friend too. 283 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: If you can shop on the Iconic, you can buy 284 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: shares and like it sounds more complicated, but like the 285 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: process is same. You put the things that you want 286 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: in your cart and then you hit transact and then bam, 287 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: that's happening, and you kind of go. I don't know 288 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: about you, but I remember my first few trades when 289 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: I was a baby investor going about it. Oh oh, 290 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: and you kind of feel a little bit silly in 291 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 2: a good way. 292 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's I guess, like really interesting to hear 293 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 3: about how people had shares, you know, back in the 294 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: non digital age, where I think they actually had to 295 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 3: call up the bank and you know, get someone to 296 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 3: buy that for them on their behalf. Whereas now you 297 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 3: get to do that yourself, which is incredible. 298 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. It is genuinely so much more accessible. 299 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 2: I was trying to explain this to my nana the 300 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 2: other day, literally, and I was like, no, no, no, 301 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: you can just buy it online. And she's like, who's 302 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: your brokeup? And I was like, it's not a person, 303 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: it's a platform, and it's just a very cool place 304 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: to be in twenty twenty five when we can access 305 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: it for literally I know, no, Comsex Pocket isn't, as 306 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: I will say, as accessible, and I say that because 307 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: they have minimum investment amounts that you need to reach. 308 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: So I believe that if you want to transact on Comsex, 309 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: you need to have your first trade be a minimum 310 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: of one hundred dollars. And that's fine for some people 311 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: who are ready to take that plunge, but a lot 312 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: of people like, well I'm not ready, And you might 313 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: look at a sharesis where the literal minimum doesn't exist. 314 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: It could be one cent. So everyone is going to 315 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: have their different like pros and cons. And in my 316 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: investing masterclass, just to plug that really quickly. I literally, 317 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: and this is friend why I have so many share 318 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: trading accounts. I have done a video on basically all 319 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: the top platforms that exist of how to submit your 320 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: first trade. So I've done Shareess, I've done Comsec, I've 321 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: gone with peerl like all of them, and I'm like, 322 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: this is how to do it, and these are the minimums. 323 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: And like in the com Sec video, I remember recording 324 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: it and being like, but you're gonna have to do 325 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: a minimum of one hundred dollars because they won't let 326 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: you do less than that, and like just all of 327 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: that stuff that might make you feel more confident. Now 328 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: I want to get into more nedy gritty and ask you, 329 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: all right, well you mentioned you know VDHG and you 330 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: mentioned NDQ, like, I've got questions about what you own 331 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: and the exact amount in your portfolio. But we're going 332 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: to go to a really quick break because I'm going 333 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: to gate keep that information for right after that, so 334 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: guys don't go anywhere, all right, money diarists. So we 335 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: are back and it is time to get into the 336 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: nedy gritty. We know what you did for work, how 337 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: much money you were earning, why you were able to invest, 338 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: But now I need to know tell me how much 339 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: is your share portfolio worth? 340 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: Sure? So, like I mentioned in my intro, I haven't 341 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: invested for about two years, so since late twenty twenty three. 342 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: But when I looked earlier this year, just a few 343 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: months ago, I was really incredibly surprised that I'd reached 344 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: seventy five thousand. 345 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: Stop it, that's so good, thank you. 346 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: What's really cool is I just forgot, of course that 347 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: like two years is quite a long time, it was 348 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: going to grow and that's the magic of compounding interest. 349 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: So from when I first started investing, of course it 350 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: was COVID, there wasn't much to do. I was looking 351 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: at my share portfolio all the time, every day, every 352 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: few hours because you know, that's that fear of losing 353 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: money or see when you see it grow, you just 354 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: want to keep looking. So I had to really like 355 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: wean myself off that, and then it got to the 356 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: stage of not looking at all. 357 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: So tell me about this seventy five thousand. You stopped 358 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: investing in late twenty twenty three, and you said for 359 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: reasons i'll get into. Let's have a quick chat about 360 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: that side note, because I think this is a really 361 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: relatable piece of content where sometimes we have the funds 362 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: to invest, and then sometimes life happens and we are like, well, 363 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: I'd love to still invest, but I have these short 364 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: term goals I want to achieve. And some people will 365 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: ride into the show and be like they should I 366 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: be investing in my shares, or should I be buying 367 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 2: my first home, or I really want to get married 368 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: or whatever it is, And I feel like you've just 369 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: gone through that. So you put your shared trading journey 370 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: on hold in late twenty twenty three. 371 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 3: Why, Well, so at the time I had always been 372 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: saving for my first house deposit. I was buying that 373 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: with my partner now husband, and so I really just 374 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: wanted to save every bit of extra money I had 375 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: and put that. First of all was my house deposit, 376 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: saving a buffer for you know, all the costs that 377 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 3: come with the housing journey. And then also once we 378 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: had bought that place, which was also in late twenty 379 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: twenty three, I just wanted to keep my savings to 380 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: build up the offset and just in case there was 381 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: anything that needed to be fixed with the house or 382 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 3: any last minute fees strata. 383 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: I just wanted that buffer there. 384 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: So I stopped investing at the time. And I had 385 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 3: also started a job that was in a company where 386 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: I do get shares as well, so as part of 387 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: an employee share scheme, which makes up quite a large 388 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 3: chunk of my package. So I thought, I'm getting these 389 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 3: shares already, I had quite a good base in the market, 390 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 3: and I thought, let's just you know, take a bit 391 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: of a pause. And then I was also engaged at 392 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 3: that time, and I thought, you know, I'm going to 393 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: need to sort of start saving up for this wedding 394 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: now that the house has been or the apartment's been purchased. 395 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 3: So it was, yeah, just trying to prioritize, and I 396 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: had all these competing priorities, and unfortunately I had to 397 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: take a pause on my investing, and that. 398 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: Is so fine. Talk to me. You now have a husband, 399 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 2: which is really exciting. You purchased your first home with him. 400 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: What then happened? So have you guys? Do you both 401 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: of you invest? Is this a journey that you're both 402 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: on together? Is that a decision that you made independently? Like, 403 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: I'm just so pervy, I'm so sorry. Were you talking 404 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: about this to get Does he have shares? Are you 405 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: running rings around him? 406 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: Like? 407 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: Tell me? So interestingly? 408 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 3: He also has shares and we were both I think 409 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: being a man, he probably a generalization, but I feel 410 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: like he knew more about investing and maybe knew that 411 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 3: it was open to him in a way that I didn't. 412 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: So he just had confidence. He didn't know more than you. 413 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: He just had confidence. And when you are lacking confidence, 414 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: you've got to ask yourself one question, what would a mediocre, 415 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: middle aged white man do? And then you're going to 416 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: do that pretty much? 417 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, So he was also investing around twenty twenty. 418 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 3: I think he had rais or acorns and I had 419 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 3: to play spaceship, so we had compare notes, and he 420 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: also was investing in similar but different things. So we 421 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 3: hold I believe both NDQ and FIE. He has made 422 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 3: more speculative and direct share purchases with you know, our 423 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 3: direct companies, and he is definitely taking a few punts 424 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: here and there. He has. Oh, he's more of a 425 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: risk take than I am, as I'm pretty risk averse 426 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: of my investing. 427 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: Okay, so tell me about performance, then your portfolios? Whose 428 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: performance is better? 429 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 3: Well, funnily enough, because I haven't sold anything, I've always 430 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 3: been buying the same shares. I don't actually hold that many. 431 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 3: I think I've got about less than ten direct and ets. 432 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: He had so many he had to go through a 433 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 3: journey of selling the ones that were underperforming. Then he 434 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 3: I think was rebalancing. So I actually would say my 435 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 3: portfolio is done better. But just because I've been very consistent. 436 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: Oh my god. So hold on. So you're saying that 437 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: consistency is the key. Not picking stocks that's so crazy. 438 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 3: Yes, And not trying to time the market either, that's 439 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 3: you know, it's a key learning And I feel like, 440 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, I'm sure your husband is incredibly smart, 441 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: and like it's also like, as somebody who worked in 442 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: the industry, it's fun, Like, don't get me wrong. 443 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: Not everyone is going to find this fun, but I 444 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: find this fun, and I know that a lot of 445 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: men are also like, well, it's kind of like a 446 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: speculative stock. It's a bit of fun. Like, it doesn't 447 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: mean it's better. Research tells us that women who are 448 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: just consistent are better investors than men overall, and that 449 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 2: is the perfect example of that. So we know now 450 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: that your share portfolio that you created yourself is worth 451 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: about seventy five five hundred dollars. And you said I 452 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: own VDHG, which is the Vanguard Diversified High Growth Fund, 453 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: which we spoke about on Brooks episode as well, both 454 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: brook and I own. That definitely not a recommendation, and 455 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: I feel like I need to caveat this before I 456 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: get into well what do you own? Not recommendations? We 457 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: are just being pervy on your portfolio. And VDHG is 458 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: actually one of the most popular ETFs in the country. 459 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 2: It's not because oh wow, Like I don't want someone 460 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: listening to this and be like, wow, actually I've heard 461 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: that like three times now, and she's on the money. 462 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: They must be onto something, Yeah, babe. The whole country 463 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: is like that's where most people end up going down 464 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: their rabbit hole and finding their way too, because Vanguard 465 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: is quite popular. Can you run me through what you 466 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: hold in your portfolio? Will put I feel like the 467 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: direct shares for your company off to the side because 468 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: it's not the same like she owns direct shares in 469 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: her company fantastic. We'll talk about that later. But in 470 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: your actual comseck account and comsect pocket account, what do 471 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: you own and why? Sure? 472 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: So, overall my strategy is very much core and satellite. 473 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: I would say VDHG is my core. I've got about 474 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 3: just under fifty percent of my whole portfolio is VDHG, 475 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: and eventually I would like that to have a larger proportion, 476 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: just because, like I said, I'm pretty pretty basic, pretty stable. 477 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 3: I like consistency, and I like to just know the 478 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 3: diversification is already taken care of for me one hundred percent. 479 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 3: So I own two direct shares. I've got Bendigo Bendigobank 480 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 3: Wes Farmers, and I've got one lic which is afik Oh. 481 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 3: I just have to go look up the full name 482 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: of I believe. So my direct shares are about seventeen percent, 483 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, less than twenty percent, and I'll probably keep 484 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 3: it that way as my portfolio grows. Just because Wes 485 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 3: Farmers has amazingly been my best performing share, this is 486 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 3: pretty crazy. I've had ninety three percent growth on that. 487 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 3: I must have just gotten out a really good time. 488 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: When did you purchase that? 489 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 3: Oh, I think it might have been twenty twenty two, 490 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 3: And yeah, it's just grown really well. I also have 491 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 3: NDQ and FI, which I've mentioned IHG oh IXJ. Sorry 492 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: those three are in pocket and as well because I 493 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 3: haven't invested for a little while and the tech market 494 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: has grown amazingly, I had eighty five point four seven 495 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 3: percent growth in NDQ. 496 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing. So those of you playing along at home, 497 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: NDQ is the beta shares NASDAQ one hundred ETF, which 498 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 2: is going to give so NASDAK is the American version 499 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 2: of the AX, and that means that she's getting, you know, 500 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: some international exposure, you could say. And then you said 501 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: before that you have IXJ. So IXJ is the I 502 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: shares Global Healthcare in the Australian currency, which means you're 503 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: able to purchase it on the ASEX, but it's actually 504 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: an into national ETF, which is very cool. And then 505 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: you also mentioned that you have AFI which is the 506 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: Australian Foundation Investment Company. Now all of those are fine, 507 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 2: those are available on and it's not even me giving 508 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: you permission. They're just like basic ETFs that you're able 509 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: to buy on comsext Pocket. But what I'm really interested 510 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 2: in is the two direct shares that you own. One 511 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: because you had ninety three percent growth in West Farmers. 512 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 2: Let's start there. Why did you buy West Farmers? Why 513 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: did you go? I want a direct share, especially because 514 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: your journey started with Spaceship, then comsext Pocket, which doesn't 515 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: allow you to have direct shares, and then you would 516 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 2: have graduated to comsec where you had access to direct shares. 517 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: Why West Farmers. 518 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 3: So when I was really deep into my investing journey 519 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 3: and I was learning and everything, I thought, maybe I 520 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: should branch out from ETF and actually, you know, put 521 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 3: my money where my mouth is, buy a few blue 522 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: chip companies that I think have a lot of potential. 523 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 3: And of course in Australia I always get West Farmers, 524 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: Woollies and Coals confused. But West Farmers I believe owns. 525 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 3: Bunnings came up and I think it did use to 526 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: own one of the supermarket chains. 527 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: It did and it now doesn't. Oh it doesn't, but 528 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: it used to be affiliated with Calls, which is why 529 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: they all have the flybys and access to one pass, 530 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: because they're kind of all in affiliation with each other. 531 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: But West Farmers no longer own Calls. Calls Is are 532 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 2: out on its own. But inside West Farmers you have Target, 533 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: you have came Out, you have Bunnings, You've got office Works, 534 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: there's a whole heap of other stuff, and then a 535 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: pharmacy brand as well. Now that's right. 536 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 3: So when I was doing research, I was in a 537 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 3: few Facebook groups, I was in a few Reddit chats, 538 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: Reddit subredits, and I think it is really great to 539 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: have those blue chip companies that you can't imagine ever 540 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 3: really being in a downturn. You know, we know that 541 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: OSSI's love Bunnings. I love Bunnings, and so I just 542 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: think it is a very stable company, you know, as 543 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: part of a wider collection. So I was very happy 544 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 3: with my Groce and West Farmers, and it was a 545 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: few It came really came from recommendations from other people 546 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: that I did research on. I checked the share price 547 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 3: as well, and I thought let's put a bit of 548 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: money in and now it's grown amazingly and I actually 549 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: wish I had put more in. 550 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: I love that. The thing that I love about this 551 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: part of our conversation is it's kind of what I 552 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: was hoping to get to. Like, you purchased a direct 553 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 2: share because it directly aligned to your values. You were like, actually, 554 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: I've purchased this direction not because like a mate was like, oh, 555 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: it's just Becky Stock or whatever. You were like, actually, 556 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 2: I can see value in West Farmers because I can 557 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: see that those are consumables that we're always going to need. 558 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: And I think the conversation, especially and I was on Reddit. 559 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: I've been on Reddit for years is the sick reality 560 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: of my life. But I'm always reading Ozzie Finance, and 561 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 2: during COVID, I think a lot of people were having 562 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 2: that conversation about if you were on Reddit as well 563 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: the toilet paper. They were like, it's a consumable. Like 564 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: Reddit was going crazy talking about like companies that are 565 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: thriving at the moment, you should be investing in them. 566 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: And clearly you took note of that. But then also, 567 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: it's not just I read something online and invested. You 568 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: were like, I read something online, I thought about it 569 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: and I can see the value here and it's still 570 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: in my portfolio because you're buying hold strategies working. Tell 571 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: me about Bendigo Bank. Why Bendigo Bank. 572 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: So Bendigo I've seen about forty three percent growth, which 573 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 3: is not bad. Again, I didn't actually invest a huge amount, 574 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 3: and right now it's only sitting in about three point 575 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: six thousand dollars. I always, again, back in my research, 576 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 3: I really wanted to own some of the banks, just 577 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: to dabble be in that space, in that blue chip 578 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: as well. And I always remember that Macquarie was very expensive. 579 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 3: I just think it looked expensive. I thought maybe it 580 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 3: was overvalued at the time. Again doing a bit of research, 581 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 3: listening to other people's recommendations, and I think Bendigo, I'm 582 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 3: a little bit dusty on my knowledge, but it's maybe 583 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: the fifth biggest bank or it is so. At the 584 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: time of investing in Bendigo, I was actually a customer 585 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: of UP Bank, which I really really liked. And this 586 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 3: was at the time when I had all my savers 587 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 3: and I was creating my health deposit, and I loved 588 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 3: UP and everything they stood for, and so I thought, 589 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 3: let's invest in Bendigo, invest in the parent, yeah, which 590 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 3: would be Association. 591 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And that's why I wanted to know, because 592 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 2: I was like, are you just picking these random two stocks? 593 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: They seem oddly specific. I would love to know more. Now, 594 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: your West Farmer's direct Chairs have returned you ninety three percent, 595 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: which is fantastic and very exciting. Definitely the outlier. But 596 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: have you got anything else that you're like, oh my gosh, 597 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: that had incredible returns. I didn't see it coming, Like, 598 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: what's been your best performers? 599 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 3: So honestly, yeah, West Farmers, which was at ninety three percent. 600 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 3: I am looking right now and it's down to eighty nine, 601 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 3: so I'm sure there's a bit of variability, and as 602 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: well as NDQ, which I mentioned earlier, is at the 603 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 3: eighty three percent, And really, I have had great returns overall. 604 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: Something I didn't say and I wanted to show, actually 605 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: the value and the power of compound investing is that 606 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: my current portfolio is at seventy five and a half 607 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: thousand dollars and I've invested fifty five thousand of that. 608 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 3: So the growth that I've seen across my whole portfolio 609 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 3: is thirty six percent, and that's about twenty k So. 610 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: I was really really impressed me not having investors for 611 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: two years, which I think is incredible. 612 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: That's very sexy. I'm not going to lie. That is 613 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: very sexy. It's one of those things where you know, 614 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: we zoom out and we talk about the average performance 615 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: of the Australian share market and over time that sits 616 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: anywhere between nine and eleven percent, depending on what period 617 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: of time you're looking at, and we all expect that, 618 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: but then we have these stories and we can't guarantee 619 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: that you'll get the same returns, especially because you kind 620 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: of had the benefit of investing at a time when 621 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: lots of people were pulling their money out, So that's 622 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: going to play into it. Sorry, thirty six percent return 623 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: is elite. Is there anything in your portfolio that you 624 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: look at and be like, excuse me, you're not performing 625 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: very well. 626 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: So I think this was one of my rogue ideas. 627 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 3: And I was listening to podcasts and I suppose Victoria 628 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: you can talk more about this. But I remember hearing 629 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 3: that lic So listed investment companies. I think they are 630 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: are quite good, and I thought, why not, you know, 631 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 3: invest in one. I did a bit of research into 632 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: the company that is Afi, and I think their Australian owned. 633 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: They had a really cool history, and I thought, why not. 634 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: But it's not terrible. It's just held its value, which 635 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: is maybe the point of it. So I'm currently down 636 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 3: one point three nine percent and it's just flooding along 637 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: and maybe that's the point. 638 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: And do you know what, I think we've all got 639 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: something in our portfolio that we look at and go 640 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: I really thought that would perform and it wasn't. But that, 641 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: my friend, is why we diversified. Because if you had 642 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: just purchased that and I got you on the show, 643 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: you'd be like investing sucks, Like investing is not fun. 644 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: But because you've diversified, we can't pick the good performers 645 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: like you would not have been able to say, do 646 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: you know what Wes Fumers is going to return the 647 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: ninety three percent? Because do you know what you would 648 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: have done? Put your entire life savings into it? Because 649 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: I would have and I'm not a betting woman. Do 650 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: you have any other investing regrets or big learnings from 651 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: this journey? 652 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say regrets so much as just a lot 653 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: of learnings. So when I was reflecting, and you know 654 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: about to speak on this podcast. I thought my story 655 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 3: isn't amazing. I haven't a gained the system. I want 656 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 3: to say that I am very I'm honest, but I'm 657 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 3: also like it just shows really the power of compound interest. 658 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: Investing can be very like certain figure and that's the 659 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 3: approach I like to take. I don't call myself an 660 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 3: amazing investor, but I really just listen to the recommendations 661 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: of a lot of trusted people out there who know 662 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: their stuff, and I tried my hand at something, and yeah, 663 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: I've just followed the advice out there technically, Like I 664 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 3: don't think of investing as gambling or I know some 665 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 3: people have that out there, and I think that's when 666 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 3: you choose the riskier stocks, or you've got all your 667 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 3: money in crypto or direct companies like you were saying, Victoria. 668 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: But I think when you put your money in a 669 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 3: few trusted companies that you know are going to grow 670 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 3: because or it is an ETF which is so broad 671 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 3: and diversified. I think this just shows that investing it 672 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: really should just be seen as an everyday asset and 673 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: an everyday tool for a lot of young people out there. 674 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love it and that's obviously. I don't know. 675 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: I feel like I've dedicated my life at this point 676 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: to yelling people to start investing because I'm like, you 677 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: want to get rich, you can get rich. You want 678 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: to be financially free. I want you to be financially free. 679 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: Like I love this, especially because I'm like, it's so accessible. 680 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: Like we're not talking about rich people getting richer. We're 681 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: talking about a twenty five year old who once decided 682 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: she was going to invest and now has a seventy 683 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: five thousand dollars portfolio. And by the time you retire, 684 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: you're going to be so comfortable, Like it just makes 685 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 2: me so excited. Now I want to know. Obviously, I'm 686 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: making some grand assumptions here. Your portfolio. You said you 687 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: contributed fifty five thousand dollars and it's now at seventy 688 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: five five hundred dollars ish right. To get to that, 689 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 2: you would have had to experience compounding interest, which means 690 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: you have reinvested the dividends that your portfolio is creating 691 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: back into your share portfolio. Is that correct? 692 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: So I'm a little guilty of all the dividends I've 693 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: received over the last two years. I've just been saving 694 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 3: in my investment save up that's against my offset, and 695 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 3: maybe in a few months time, what very s, I'll 696 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 3: pick one of my existing ETFs or shares. I believe 697 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: I'm just going to put a chunk of money into 698 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 3: VDHD and that'll be my investing for the year. So 699 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 3: I suppose at the moment what I do is just 700 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 3: save my dividends at a time when I'm ready to invest. 701 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: And like you said, Victoria, conflict does have a fee 702 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 3: and has that minimum, so I want to make sure 703 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 3: I'm investing on a good amount. I don't do dollar 704 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: cost averaging just because I I don't know. I just 705 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 3: prefer to invest in a lump sum so I can 706 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: sort of track it against my other goals like I mentioned. 707 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: And yes, that gives me anxiety because I'm such a 708 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: dollar cost averaging girly. And it's just because you can't 709 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: time the market and you told me that before. Like 710 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: you told me before, you can't time the market, and 711 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: I would hate for you to make a really big 712 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: lump sum investment and then like the week after the 713 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: market crashes or something happens. Can you maybe like I'd 714 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: never give you advice, but maybe once you have your 715 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: figure and you're like, I'm going to invest, Like, let's 716 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: pretend it's thirteen thousand dollars or so instead of just 717 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: dumping that in at one time, could you break that 718 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: up for me maybe into like going, I'm still going 719 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: to do the thirteen, but I'll do it over three months, 720 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 2: like so that you get one month, two month, three months, 721 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 2: and then maybe your dollar cost averaging that way instead 722 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 2: of just like jumping a heap of cash into the market. 723 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: Because you're the one that told me that timing the 724 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 2: market that's not a strategy. 725 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 3: Yes, so i'd be that's actually a really good approach. 726 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 3: And I need to get back on the horse, so 727 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 3: to speak, and you know, get back in the investing mindset, 728 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 3: so maybe I will. It is a big call. I 729 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: definitely need to set up some of my you know, 730 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 3: the share price alerts when you can see how it's going. 731 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 3: I haven't been keeping an eye on it, like I mentioned, 732 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: set and forget. But yes, I like your idea. I 733 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: get it. 734 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 2: I'm just a girl. I was born to do investing. 735 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: So when you say, oh this, I'm like, oh, you 736 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: told me that that wasn't a good idea, So I 737 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: was wrong. When I said, I thought that you were 738 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: really investing your dividends. Your fifty five thousand dollars, your 739 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: dividends have been going into one account. And this basically 740 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars that you've made in the market has 741 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: just been from increases in values of your shares as 742 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 2: opposed to re investing along the way. 743 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was three interesting at the beginning, but my 744 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 3: dividends really increased over the last like two to three years. 745 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 3: The last two years it's been about twenty five hundred 746 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: of dividends, And yes, I am just sucking that away, 747 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 3: but I don't intend to spend it. I really do 748 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 3: want to intend to invest it back in Oh And. 749 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: That's fine, But do you know what that tells me? 750 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: This portfolio is all growth. It's not even compound interest 751 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 2: that's got you here, because compounding interest is the money 752 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 2: that your money makes when it's made money. But you're 753 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 2: just taking that money off the table and setting it 754 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 2: over to the side, which is fine, but that's impressive. 755 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: So you're telling me if you had implemented a dividend 756 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 2: reinvestment plan, which by the way, through COMSEP, you can 757 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 2: you go and tick the box and it will automatically 758 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 2: reinvest your dividends, which maybe you're interested in, especially if 759 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: you're like, well, if BDHG is getting dividends, maybe I 760 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 2: want them to go straight back into VDHG. You could 761 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 2: automate that. And I'm not saying you need to do that, 762 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 2: but that might be something you're interested in, because then 763 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 2: you'll be harnessing even more compounding interest power instead of 764 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 2: having the compound interest that you're being paid put into 765 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 2: a savings account for you to then invest later. If 766 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: that makes any sense, Yeah, it does. 767 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: Actually, I think that's a really good learning because in 768 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 3: my mind, I really conflate like the growth that I'm 769 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 3: seeing as compound interest. 770 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 2: No, it's literally value increasing the shares that you own, 771 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: which is also very sexy, and I love that for you. 772 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 2: But I'm like, go, we could be making more money 773 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 2: here and you don't even have to invest a dollar 774 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: more like it's all the money that your money's making 775 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: just making more money. 776 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good approach. I definitely I'm excited 777 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 3: listening to Brooks investing diary. I really got me excited 778 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 3: because she is so passionate and she has such a 779 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 3: goal in mind. I in my submission, I said, I 780 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 3: originally had this goal of having one hundred K by 781 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 3: age thirty, which has the goal has passed me by 782 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 3: I haven't reached it. 783 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 2: Sorry, you've bought a house as well. You know, we 784 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: cannot dismiss that. Sorry, by thirty you had purchased a home, 785 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 2: you had paid for a wedding, and you had invested 786 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 2: fifty five thousand dollars. Sit down, that's incredible. Yeah. 787 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 3: I think when you see it like that, it just 788 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 3: I guess it goes to show that five years is 789 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 3: a huge amount of time. A lot can obviously happen 790 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 3: in five years, but also your money can grow so 791 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 3: much or you can do so much. And I think 792 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 3: at the time of investing, I didn't appreciate just how 793 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 3: long five years is in the grand scheme of your money. 794 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And that's why it's a journey, right, Like 795 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 2: you're always learning new things. Yes, you invested during COVID, 796 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 2: but it's not a set and forget things. So as 797 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: much as you're investing, portfolio can be. I feel like 798 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 2: we're always learning new tidbits and things that we could implement, 799 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 2: or like you might get another interest, Like one day 800 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 2: you might be like, oh, I'm really interested in Transurban, 801 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 2: Like you know, that's a company that I might go 802 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 2: and purchase some shares in. And you know, now you've 803 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 2: got a little kitty to the side essentially that you're like, 804 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: I'm investing maybe instead of investing it all in BDHG, 805 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 2: You've found another interest that you're like, I want to 806 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: make sure that And as you said before, I want 807 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 2: most of my portfolio in VDHG. That's your journey. But 808 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 2: you did say you're a core satellite girly, so maybe 809 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 2: you've got a few more satellites that just keep things sparkly. 810 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 2: Like I think we've got to stay engaged as well 811 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: as still investing for the long term, we've got to 812 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 2: be excited about it as well. 813 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there are some amazing Aussi companies out there 814 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 3: that are doing really cool things. And I think as well, 815 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 3: it can be overwhelming because on hot Cover all those websites, 816 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 3: definitely Reddit, people have so many bets and speculative choices, 817 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 3: and I think, yeah, I wouldn't mind doing that, but 818 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 3: I also think I'd like to just learn a lot more. 819 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 3: Like you said, there's always so much to learn, and 820 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 3: you never stopped. 821 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 2: And I feel like you've got to take everything that 822 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 2: you read on the Internet with a grain of salt, 823 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 2: especially if you're going to be reading forums like Reddit. 824 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 2: Do not get me wrong, those people are wildly passionate, 825 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: but that does not mean that they know what they 826 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 2: talk about. It turns out you can be passionate and 827 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 2: wrong at the same time. 828 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 3: Yes, and also there's a lot of I definitely remember 829 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 3: back in the day, there's a lot of people who 830 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 3: are like, I'm making one hundred K returns and yeah, 831 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 3: you can't believe everyone. 832 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: And also you're making one hundred k returns and then 833 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 2: you find out they've invested a million dollars and you're like, 834 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 2: that's actually terrible return. There's some semantics that aren't here. 835 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 2: Or they're like, oh, the revenue on that business is 836 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 2: massive and you go, yes, but their profit is dismal. Yeah, 837 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 2: there's just I feel like there's a lot of semantics, 838 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 2: and you do need to take everything with a grain 839 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 2: of salt. I'm running out of time with you, so 840 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 2: I do want to ask two more questions before the 841 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 2: end to keep it very shees on the money esque, 842 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 2: what do you think is your best investing habit? 843 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 3: I think as I sort of alluded to when I 844 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 3: first started speaking, but I had to do a lot 845 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 3: of like relearning my mindset, retraining, and understanding what the 846 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 3: value of a dollar is worth. So I think in 847 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 3: the last five years, I've really become a lot more 848 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 3: minimalist in my spending and consumption habits. So back in 849 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 3: pre COVID, I was spending a lot of money on 850 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 3: just fast fashion, random clothes, random nickknacks that I didn't 851 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 3: really need or didn't have any value for me, including 852 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 3: big nights out and things that I wasn't sure and 853 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 3: you know the next day that I actually really valued. 854 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 3: So and that's I guess where the investing comes into it, too, 855 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 3: because I would definitely much rather have this money working 856 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 3: for me in certain ways than just having a room 857 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 3: full of stuff that I don't really need or value totally. 858 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 2: I resonate with that one so much. Like my wardrobe 859 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 2: is nice because I spent a lot on it prior 860 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 2: to COVID. 861 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, yeah, I just think it's quite important to think, like, 862 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 3: obviously your lifestyle is important and making sure you're spending 863 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 3: on the things that you value, which is something I'm 864 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 3: really happy to say that I currently do now. I 865 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 3: always think I need to be thinking of my future 866 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 3: self and so bared me in the future. I want 867 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 3: to get out of my life and that's where I 868 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 3: believe my investing will come in handy, because I'm setting 869 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 3: up and I'm thinking of future. 870 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 2: Me yet totally or to flip that, I want to know, 871 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 2: what do you think is your worst investing all money habit? 872 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 3: It's a good question. I think sometimes it is hard 873 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,439 Speaker 3: to I guess separate, like I know brooks Ortter spoke 874 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 3: to this too, because she's really being in fire. But 875 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 3: it's like you have to enjoy aspects of life too, 876 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 3: And sometimes I think I do have a bit of 877 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 3: a scarcity mindset and it's hard to, you know, go 878 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 3: with the most expensive option if I know there is 879 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 3: a slightly cheaper option, you know, try to weigh up 880 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 3: that balance. And I guess my worst investing habit is that, Yes, 881 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 3: I haven't stayed engaged with it and time has passed 882 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 3: me by, but I'm ready. I'm really excited to sort 883 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 3: of start again and see where it goes. 884 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 2: I am genuinely so excited for you, and just even 885 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 2: this conversation, I could see your face when you're like, 886 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 2: hold on, you're right, I could be doing dividend reinvesting. 887 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 2: I was like watching the way that you're looking at me, 888 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 2: because I'm also like, am I saying the wrong thing? 889 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 2: Like maybe this isn't in line when her values? But 890 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 2: I could see you kind of lighting up a little 891 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 2: bit to be like, hmm, maybe I should be doing 892 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 2: this or hmm, that seems interesting. So I love it. 893 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for letting me be so pervy 894 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: on your portfolio. It's one of my favorite things to do. 895 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 2: Like We've released race a whole series on Instagram called 896 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 2: Pervy Paycheck and Pervy Portfolio where we break it down, 897 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: but now we're bringing it to the pod, and I 898 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 2: couldn't be more excited. So thank you for being our 899 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 2: very first anonymous investing diary. It has been an absolute pleasure. 900 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 2: I just know the community is going to be obsessed 901 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 2: with this, so thank you. 902 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. I'm really happy 903 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 3: I got to come on and share. And if I 904 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 3: could leave people with one thing, it's just that investing 905 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 3: doesn't have to be hard. It can be really simple, 906 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 3: really straightforward, and I think we should all have a 907 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 3: lot more confident and trust in ourselves to try our 908 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 3: hand this and get amazing results. 909 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with you. I love you, thank you so much. 910 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 2: That is so true. 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