1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: You are listening to mix one oh four point nine's 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: three sixty and joining me on the line is the 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Health Minister Attasha Files. 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Katie, Good morning listeners. 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: Minister, were just talking about people getting their steps up 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: each day. I believe you got yours up on the 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: weekend running in the city to serve Well. 8 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: I think you got yours up too, didn't it, Katy. 9 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: It's the only way to go great. 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: It was really great though. I've never done anything like 11 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: that before and I actually enjoyed it and it's lovely 12 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: to see the variety of people people you know and think, oh, 13 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: I didn't think they're a runners. So yeah, it was 14 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: a really fun event. The well done to the organizers. 15 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: You're being able to put it on during COVID. 16 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. 17 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: Well let's get into it and we know this earlier 18 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: in the week and certainly yesterday we spoke about the 19 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: changes which the Gunner government is pushing through Parliament, which 20 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: is going to abolish the Scrutiny Committee set up back 21 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen to enhance transparency and accountability. 22 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: Minister, why are these changes being made so. 23 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: For listeners, Katie? The Scrutiny Committee was a process that 24 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: we introduced in twenty sixteen when we did only have 25 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: a two person opposition and so we've never seen a 26 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: committee like it in any other parliament. But now we 27 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: have a more conventional opposition, we believe that the process 28 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 2: that we have for legislation is is enough. And also 29 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: really in these times of COVID, we need to be agile, 30 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: we need to be responsive and not sort of block 31 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: things with a bureaucratic barricade. 32 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Look, I've got to say it comes across quite arrogantly, 33 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: particularly given the fact that it was the first day 34 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: of Parliament sitting on Tuesday. 35 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: Do these changes come into place immediately? 36 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: So, Katie, I think it's the leader of the Opposition 37 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: that is sort of highlighting that she doesn't even have 38 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: the confidence since her team. This is part of the 39 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: sessional orders. So every assembly that meets were the fourteenth 40 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: Assembly and so we'll sit for the next four years, 41 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: we have sessional orders. So it's like the rule book 42 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: that we operate under. In as I said that twenty 43 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: sixteen parliament, when we did have only two opposition members, 44 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 2: we had this scrutiny committee process. But in putting together 45 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: the orders for this assembly, we decided to go back 46 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: to that more conventional approach. There is still a committee 47 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: stage for legislation. There is still the abilities if a 48 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: legislation is a large piece of legislation, quite complex, it 49 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: can go to an exposure draft bill. So there's still 50 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: the processes within the parliament for scrutiny of bills. It's 51 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: just that we want to be agile and responsive without 52 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: delaying legislation. 53 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is that you feel as though 54 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: the scrutiny process takes too long and it's no longer 55 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: required because there is a big enough opposition. 56 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: Now correct, We believe there's a more conventional opposition. Legislation 57 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: will continue to be scrutinized and debated through the parliamentary 58 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: process and we just want to get on with the 59 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: job of delivering the territory. 60 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: Do you think it's appropriate though, given the fact that 61 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: the government is set to hand down a budget next month, 62 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: it's the first real look into the finances in eighteen months, 63 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: and you're abolishing this process. 64 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: So, Katie, the budget bill would never have gone through 65 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: this process. It never has in the past. It goes 66 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: through the estimates process and that is still in place. 67 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: So the bill. The budget will be handed down in November. 68 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: The Budget Bill, the Chief Minister will speak to that, 69 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: it will go off to the Estimates Committee for a 70 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: week of hearings and then come back into the Parliament. 71 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: So the leader of the Opposition is showing her and competence. 72 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: She doesn't have the confidence in her team that she 73 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: doesn't understand. 74 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: Ultimately, though, won't this mean that the government can push 75 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: through any legislative changes you like, as we don't have 76 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: two levels of parliament like in other states, I you know, 77 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: things like changes to the pet legislation like we've spoken 78 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: about earlier in the week. 79 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: So Katie, in terms of legislation, it is still unless 80 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: being debated on an urgency introduced in one sitting sits 81 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: for at least thirty sittings days where members can talk 82 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: to their community, talk to stakeholders, then comes back in 83 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: and can still go through a committee stage process within 84 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: the Parliament to be passed. So there is certainly checks 85 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: and balances around legislation. 86 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: So from your perspective, the reason that this is happening 87 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: is because you want to be able to move things 88 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: through more quickly because of COVID. 89 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: We don't want to have bureaucratic barricades in place, Katie. 90 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: Territories just want to to do what is in their 91 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: best interest. There is still the appropriate checks and balances. 92 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: We have an opposition member of eighteenth. I would have 93 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: said that for strong opposition, the leader of the opposition 94 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: certainly casting out over her team's ability, but territorians can 95 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: be reassured that there is processes in place. We tried 96 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: something different for the twenty sixteen parliament in the session 97 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: of Laders Katie. Ninety percent of those bills came back 98 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: and said fine to pass. There is still the processes 99 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: around complex bills where an exposure draft can be provided 100 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: to the community ahead of the bill being introduced. So 101 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: we believe there's the appropriate checks and balances. The leader 102 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: of the opposition is harping on about nothing. 103 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: Well, I guess at the time though that this was introduced, 104 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: it was it was said that it was being introduced 105 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: as scrutiny committees were being introduced to ensure that there 106 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: was transparency and accountability. That transparency and accountability is being 107 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: questioned now given the fact that these changes are being made, 108 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: I guess what really doesn't help the argument of the 109 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: government is the fact that even on the front page 110 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: of the paper today, you know, we see that there's 111 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: been an FOI I put in to take a closer 112 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: look into a report into the cost of renewable energy, 113 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: and you know, out of one hundred and eighteen pages 114 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: of that report, one hundred and sixteen have been redacted, Katie. 115 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: In terms of processes, there's a number of processes that 116 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: allows government to provide information to the public. But at 117 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: times and foliing is a structure around it, this legislation 118 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: around it, and the decision was made. 119 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: Can you see though, how you know to some territories 120 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: listening this morning that it maybe seems as though the 121 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: government has said that they're going to be open and transparent, 122 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: but they're not really doing things that seem like. 123 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: They are, so Katie. The freedom of information decisions are 124 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: made by officers according to that legislation and that act. 125 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: The reasons for the decisions are curly explained by the 126 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 2: relevant officer, and there is avenues for people that apply 127 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: they want a FOIE information, there is a processes through 128 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: the Information Commissioner for them to get further avenues or 129 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: get further explanation if they so wish. 130 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: I mean do you think it's appropriate though, that an 131 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: FOI request into report into renewables has been pretty much 132 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: entirely redacted, So, Katie. 133 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: I don't understand the reasons why the Officer has redacted 134 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: parts of that. Territorians know that renewables mean loyl prices 135 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: and more local jobs and we're certainly focused on that. 136 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: We've got our road Map to Renewables report which sets 137 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: out that pathway. But in terms of transparency as a government, yes, 138 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: we've made a decision for this parliament around the session 139 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 2: Lord is not to have a Scrutiny Committee, but we 140 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: still established a range of reform, including the Independent Commissioner 141 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 2: against Corruption. 142 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: Now, in terms of just to go back to those 143 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: changes that are happening in Parliament when it comes to 144 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: question time, things have changed in that space as well, 145 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: haven't they. 146 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: So, Katie. In terms of question time, when we had 147 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: that unusual situation where we had only a two member 148 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: opposition and we had I think it was seven independents 149 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: at one point last term, we had a situation on 150 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: Wednesday where question time was shared around. As I've said, 151 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: we believe this parliament is more conventional and so question 152 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: time each day we'll have a question from government and 153 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: a question from opposition. And what we saw yesterday was 154 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: that we saw I think it was five questions to 155 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: the government and six questions to the opposition. So certainly 156 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: question time is meant to replicate the parliament. We have 157 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: more than fifty percent of the seats, yet yesterday we 158 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: got less than fifty percent of the questions. But that's 159 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: the process under the Session Lord as for disassembly, so you. 160 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: Feel as though the changes that have been put into 161 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: place are open and transparent. You feel as though the 162 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: government is doing the right thing here. 163 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: Katie also outlined in the sixteenth in sorry, in the 164 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: thirteenth Assembly in twenty sixteen, we had a very unconventional 165 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: makeup of the Northern Churchy Parliament and we put measures 166 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: in place to allow for that. But as we have 167 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: an eighth person opposition, I think the only person that 168 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: needs to explain this is the leader of the opposition. 169 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: And so why she's so against these changes. It really 170 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: shows a lack of confidence in her team. 171 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: Well, I think it also though it wasn't just her, 172 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, obviously Robin Lamley's fuming about it. We had 173 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: Jerry Wood call in yesterday there's plenty of people that 174 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: are raising concerns, so I think you know, it's not 175 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: just sort of the Opposition leader saying that this isn't appropriate. 176 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: It's a number of people's even you've got the Criminal 177 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: Lawyers Association talking to the abc as today saying that 178 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: they didn't think it was a good move. 179 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: Katie. I've explained the facts to listeners this morning in 180 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: terms of we had a different makeup last time. We've 181 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: got a far more conventional parliament this time. There is 182 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: still processes within the parliamentary system protects and balances and 183 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: so people can I think they want us to get 184 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: on with the job of government. They want us to 185 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: be able to pass legislation. So in terms of a bill, 186 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: you could potentially have a bill introduced in November and 187 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: it would sit all the way through until March. When 188 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: we need to be agile and respond to the issues 189 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: that are facing the territories, particularly now, we can't afford 190 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: for those lengthy time delayed, particularly when you look back 191 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: at the bills and the feedback that was provided by 192 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: the scrutiny committees, and with no disrespect to the work 193 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: that was done by those committees in the past, but 194 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: the large majority came back with no recommendations for change. 195 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: And so, as I've outlined, when we do have larger 196 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: pieces of legislation, can bring them in as an exposure 197 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: draft bill. There is nothing stopping a minister from referring 198 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: a bill to the Public Accounts Committee, for example. There's 199 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: nothing stopping the bill from sitting out for one sitting 200 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: if people do need to provide feedback and local members 201 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: want time to be able to go back to their communities. 202 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: So there is checks and balances within the parliamentary process 203 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: around legislation. 204 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: Do you feel as though the Gunner government, the government 205 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: that you are part of at the moment, is as 206 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: open and transparent as it possibly can be. 207 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 2: We certainly, as I said Katie, have put in a 208 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: range of measures, and most notably that Independent Commissioner against Corruption. 209 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: There is checks and balances and there is processes and 210 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: they're balanced. And you know we've been talking about freedom 211 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: of information. There's legislation there, there's offices, there's processes around it. 212 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: So I feel confident that we are doing our job 213 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 2: of governing but also providing opportunities for territory. 214 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: And I mean, but it looks, it does look as though. 215 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: It's a bit of a mockery that FOI situation if 216 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: you've got one hundred and eighteen page report and then 217 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: you've got pretty much the whole lot of it has 218 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: been redacted. 219 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: Katie A provided explanation. We're getting on with the job 220 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: of what we need to do. We've certainly in the 221 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: first sitting days outlined a clear agenda. We've kept territory 222 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: in say through the COVID and now we're focused on 223 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: their job. 224 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: Okay, we are going to have to get ready to 225 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: wrap up. I know you pressed for time and we 226 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: appreciate the fact you've given up your time this morning 227 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: to have a chat with us. So I do want 228 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: to just ask you quickly though we've obviously got those 229 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: expats arriving early tomorrow morning. As I understand it, how 230 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: are things going to what's the process and how's it 231 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: all going to work? 232 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: So, Katie, this is an example of the territory playing 233 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: a leading role during the coronavirus crisis and when Australians 234 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: need a hand, and these are AUSI mums, dads, grandparents. 235 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: There's some tragic stories about people that are caught up 236 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: overseas and we've put our hand up to help. That 237 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: Center for National Resilience that Howard brings will quarantine around 238 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: five hundred perpatriated Australians each fortnight. And it's Katie, really 239 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: important for Territorians to note that we are learning from this. 240 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: We're able to use our knowledge and expertise in that facility, 241 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 2: but tax payers won't be out of pocket. The Commonwealth 242 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: is jumping up and so we're looking forward to welcoming 243 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: these people into our facility which is the highest standard, 244 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: the gold standard for quarantine. 245 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: Tomorrow, Minister. 246 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: Just finally, it's been reported today three thousand extra public servants. 247 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: The Commissioner for Public Employments annual reports been released and 248 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: shows the public service has ballooned by more than three 249 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: thousand in the last two years twenty three thousand, five 250 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety as of June. Why has this happened 251 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: despite their you know, supposed to be a hiring freeze 252 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: and supposed to be you know, measures in place to 253 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: not have this going on. 254 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: So, Katie, I'm not aware of all the specifics at 255 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: that that I can point, for example, to the Department 256 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: of Health. We've made a really strong focus around rather 257 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: than having a transient workforce that is a casualized workforce, 258 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 2: giving people permanency and so switching from a reliable reliability 259 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: of nursing staff from agency nursing staff through to people 260 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: that are permanently department We certainly are conscious of the 261 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 2: budget and implementing a languent recommendations from that report. So 262 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: certainly each individual agency is making sure they do their job. 263 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: But there is situations where agencies will see an increase 264 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: in the ft. But there's good reason to it, all right. 265 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 3: No doubt. 266 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: A topic that we will talk about tomorrow on the week. 267 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: That was Natasha Files, Leader of Government Business and also 268 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: Health Minister. 269 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: Always appreciate your time. 270 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. 271 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: You are listening to mix one oh four point nine's 272 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: three sixty is twenty four minutes after nine o'clock. Quite 273 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: a few of you getting in contact with us this morning. 274 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: There's one message here that just simply sees, Katie, what 275 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: are they trying to hide when it comes to that 276 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: redacted report. 277 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 3: I can only assume. 278 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: Look, we're going to be catching up with Matt Cunningham 279 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: before ten o'clock and finding out a bit more about 280 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: what the situation is there. I've got one here, Hi 281 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: Katie what a joke on Natasha Files, mentioning response times 282 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: I got broken into Tuesday, reported at at seven pm, 283 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: and I'm yet to hear back from the police in 284 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: her own backyard of Nightcliff. Where's the response or transparency? 285 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: So bloody sick of excuses, says that Texter