1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: This is the Happy Families podcast with doctor Justin Coilson, 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: where Luke and Suzie and this is the podcast for 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: the time poor parent who just wants answers. 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: Now, I'm very excited suits for the very first time 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: in our show's history, we're going to get feng shui studies. Studies. 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: This is maybe not BEng shwei, but it is a 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: concept of how we actually physically set up our home. 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: But we're talking about our children's success when it comes 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: to school and learning, and how our furniture choices and 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: the shape of her home could actually have the part 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: to play in. 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: That, Doctor Justin in that. 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: Doctor Justin Coilson from Heavy Families dot com tot. 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 3: Au this is this is an important thing when we 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 3: want our children to do as well as they can 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 3: at school, obviously, how do we set up our home 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: to encourage and foster a good learning environment. 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 4: Well, the first thing that I've got to say is 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 4: I have no idea about interior decorating, choosing paint colors. 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 4: Apparently there is some psychology around color. I don't know 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 4: what it is. I'm not colorblind, my dad is. I'm not. 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 4: I can see colours properly, but that doesn't mean that, 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 4: but in terms of the psychology of helping our children 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: to do well, what we can do to set up 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: our home environment. A really interesting study was published just 26 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: in the last couple of months that has followed some 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 4: kids two two hundred families from low socioeconomic backgrounds across 28 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 4: a ten year period, and what these researchers found was 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 4: pretty interesting. They said, if parents will do three things consistently, 30 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 4: they can predict that those children will do significantly better 31 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 4: at school than if parents don't do those three things. 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to guess, I reckon, I can guess one 33 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: of them. Reading with your children. 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well it's not precise, but it's part of a 36 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 4: bigger thing. And then the first thing was we need 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: to have books at home, books for our children to access. 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 4: We need to be readers ourselves. Leaders are readers, and 39 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 4: kids who do well at school come from homes usually 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: where there's a lot of books. What the research has 41 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 4: found was that from the age of twelve months, parents 42 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: have got picture books, no words, just pictures, and I'd 43 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 4: sit down with their kids and they would read the 44 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: picture books. In other words, rather than worrying about words, 45 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: they just sort of talk about the story. They talk 46 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: about the things that the person was wearing. They'd label 47 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 4: the color of their shirt, or the smile on the dog, 48 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: and the funny way that the birdie was flapping its wings, 49 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: and they would bring the child into this picture book story. 50 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 4: And as the kids got older, more and more books 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 4: needed to appear and the parents would read to them. Now, 52 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: there's a really interesting side note to this from other research. 53 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 4: As parents, most of us love to read to our kids, 54 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: but we often don't do it very well. The best 55 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: thing that we can do, especially for young children we're 56 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: reading to them, is to slow our reading down. We 57 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: read too fast. We sort of lay down on the 58 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 4: carpet next to their bed, or we lay down on 59 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: the bed beside them, and we say, ok, spend time. 60 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: Once upon a time, there was oh, look at that 61 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: the end. Good night. 62 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: It's like when it comes to that time when your exhausted, 63 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: you go, bring us, which books do you want? They 64 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: bring you three books and you go, that's big, that's big. 65 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to go for the smallest one. 66 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 4: My kids will bring me eight or nine books and 67 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: they're like read and they're all the doctors of these books. 68 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: Our family is crazy about doctors and those poems. You 69 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: know how long those books are. We love them, but 70 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: they want to read eight of them at a time, 71 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, we'll pick three, and they're like five. 72 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: We have this little negotiation. Usually they fall asleep in 73 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: about the third one because they take fifteen minutes of each. 74 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: But what the research shows is we should read slowly, 75 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: and we should pause, and we should ask the kids 76 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 4: what you do if that happened to you, or how 77 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 4: would that make you feel? You know, by doing that, 78 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 4: we engage them. We get their brain going, we get 79 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: them being creative, and that's really really important. So books, books, books, books. 80 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: What the research has found was that the more the 81 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: books are part of children's lives from the earliest beginnings, 82 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: the better it is that they'll do at school in 83 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 4: grade five, which is where this study has stopped at 84 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: this point. Any guesses for the second and third Minimal 85 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 4: screen time didn't come into the study at all, but 86 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 4: plenty of research suggests that screen time is a distraction, 87 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: and we helped to We need to help our kids 88 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 4: to minimize that screen time. Second one was educational toys 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 4: and games. Okay, noted didn't say educational apps, because in 90 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 4: the app Store at the moment, I think that there's 91 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 4: a little over ninety thousand educational apps, and what research 92 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 4: would suggest is that less than one percent of them 93 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 4: are actually educational. They're just mind numbing. So these are 94 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 4: these are the kinds of games that encourage children to 95 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 4: be counting or to be reading, or they're open ended 96 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 4: kind of toys and games where they get to explore 97 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 4: and be creative. So you know, things like snakes and ladders. 98 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: That's an educational game for a four year old because 99 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 4: they're learning how to count along the board and roll 100 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 4: of dice and do that. And if you're throwing two dice, wow, 101 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: now we're really getting some serious maths. And so those 102 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 4: kinds of things, whether it's Chinese checkers or drafts or 103 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: chess or you know, I guess I'm saying old school 104 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: sort of educational toys and games. 105 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 5: It's interesting because we've mentioned before about how our six 106 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 5: year old is wonderful of these six timestables that he's 107 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 5: never been taught at school because he loves afl and 108 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 5: so the fun that's involved with doing the simple math 109 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 5: has given him skills that school couldn't possibly get him 110 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 5: to learn so. 111 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: Quickly, perfect example, great example of that. And the third 112 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 4: thing that we need to do to set our children 113 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 4: up to do well actually has less to do with 114 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 4: the way we set up our home and more to 115 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 4: do with our availability. The researchers have found again and 116 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 4: this has been shown so many times now and this 117 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 4: was only looking at but the more emotionally available, the 118 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: more responsive mums are to their children, the better the 119 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: kids do. They feel safe, they feel secure, they're open 120 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 4: to learning, they do better. 121 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 122 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 3: Wow, so good. I was thinking when we were talking 123 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 3: about how to set up your home for children's success, 124 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, put the desk in the corner and 125 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 3: make sure the lighting's good, and make sure they've got 126 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 3: plenty of you know, sharpened pencils. 127 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 4: But you know, Susie, that's important. It's just that it's 128 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: not important in those first five, six, seven, eight years 129 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: of life because the kids aren't doing study at home 130 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 4: at that point. Once they get into high school, yeah, 131 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: you know, we need to be having conversations around screen time, 132 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: access to screens in bedrooms, having appropriate lighting, getting rid 133 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 4: of distractions, keeping things nice and quiet. All of that 134 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 4: comes into it, and there's plenty of research around what 135 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 4: we need to do. But it still seems that the 136 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 4: best predictors are engagement with books, engagement with parents, and 137 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: having that downtime where we get to play and explore 138 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 4: and be creative. Those seem seem to be three of 139 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 4: the critical things to help our kids do well at school. 140 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: So good, beautiful, very simple, very I like it when 141 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: when we hear the expert in the research that says, 142 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: you know what I can do that, I can actually 143 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: apply that and I can make some adjustments. And I 144 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: always told you, sus we had this fight because I 145 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: always wanted our bookshelves with books on it, and you said, 146 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: but you've never read any of them. I go, but 147 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: it's good. It makes me look smart, se justin not 148 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: only doesn't make me look smart, justin saying you need 149 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: to have books in the house. It's good for our 150 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: kids as well. 151 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 4: The kids can look at them, and just as yeah, yeah, 152 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, dad must be so smart look at 153 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: all the books. 154 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: So he hasn't read. 155 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: We underestimate those, most. 156 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: Doctor Justin Gilson from Happy Families dot com dot are you. 157 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 158 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, and there are loads of resources to help 159 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: along with your parenting at the website happy families dot 160 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: com dot au. 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