Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms catch up podcast.
Speaker 2: It is Wednesday. As you know, frooms is favorite day
Speaker 2: of the week.
Speaker 3: It's not it's Thursday.
Speaker 1: Faite, Oh, it's hump day.
Speaker 2: Frooms's favorite saying yes, hump, say humped say forrmy does
Speaker 2: divulge to us that teslas have a fart button? Of
Speaker 2: course we're repulsed, but that's okay. Also, we in great
Speaker 2: news can freeze ourselves defrost in time for twenty one
Speaker 2: forty three. That's some great news. And also the age
Speaker 2: old question that we don't discuss enough. If you're in
Speaker 2: a committed relationship.
Speaker 3: Do you have to post them on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Or any social platform's sorry, sorry, broughten it out.
Speaker 3: This is a day in my life with my boyfriend
Speaker 3: Poo poo pants. Let's go.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Flex and Frooms on Kita.
Speaker 2: Big question of the day and more to come. Should
Speaker 2: we assume that everyone loves us? If we haven't been
Speaker 2: given bad feed back, it's come from a TikTok by Delara.
Speaker 1: Listen to this.
Speaker 4: This is your friendly reminder that unless someone indicates that
Speaker 4: they have a problem with you, you're going to assume
Speaker 4: that there is no problem, because it's not your responsibility
Speaker 4: to guess what someone else's problem is. It's their responsibility
Speaker 4: to communicate that problem to you.
Speaker 3: Well, the anxiety gillies are going to hate this one, you.
Speaker 2: Know what, because this sounds like something I would say.
Speaker 2: This sounds very flex coded. But even I'm like, it's
Speaker 2: not that simple. If I know one thing about people
Speaker 2: is that at our core, we are irrational and often
Speaker 2: act out of alignment with what matches the situation. So like,
Speaker 2: you know, when you really need a company, you push
Speaker 2: people away. When you really want someone to like look
Speaker 2: out for you, you act like you don't need any help.
Speaker 2: It's like all this stuff. It's caterintuitive. I can say,
Speaker 2: for the sake of like your anxiety, it's nice to
Speaker 2: be like, if they haven't told me, then you know,
Speaker 2: let me not worry about tomorrow's problems, like let me
Speaker 2: just wait until I know for a fact. But I
Speaker 2: don't think we control ourselves like that. I also think
Speaker 2: it's a slippery slope to tell people unless it's been
Speaker 2: said explicitly, it's not your problem, because so much is
Speaker 2: implicit and covert and requires you to pick up on
Speaker 2: signals and signs to get it across, and if you're lucky,
Speaker 2: you get an admission of truth. But even like like
Speaker 2: let's say, have a problem for me, and I'm coming
Speaker 2: to you, I'm workshopping, like I don't even know what
Speaker 2: the problem is yet, and so how many times will
Speaker 2: I allow myself to workshop or how many times will
Speaker 2: you make it comfortable enough for me to workshop before
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I don't know. I didn't any of
Speaker 2: that at all. I think I'm a little bit off
Speaker 2: any kind of advice or feedback that gives us the
Speaker 2: impression that we can do stuff on our own constantly,
Speaker 2: or that we're so separated and isolated that we don't
Speaker 2: need to rely on people, or that other people aren't
Speaker 2: our problem, or that if they can't say it, then
Speaker 2: it's on them. Because I definitely felt that way when
Speaker 2: I was twenty, you know, to twenty five. And then
Speaker 2: you're like, wait, that's not true, because I've needed people
Speaker 2: and not asked, or I've needed help and not asked
Speaker 2: and wish someone would have offered or whatever.
Speaker 3: Well I would like, And I tried to cultivate an
Speaker 3: environment where we are one hundred percent across the feelings
Speaker 3: at all times. It can be a bit of a
Speaker 3: mental load if you're not used to it. But all
Speaker 3: of my best friends, if there's even the slightest little
Speaker 3: hint of weirdness, we have a trust system where we
Speaker 3: can happily talk about that without it being too much.
Speaker 3: And if you don't understand that, yeah, then we can't
Speaker 3: be friends like that.
Speaker 1: And it's a tricky one.
Speaker 3: And you also need to pick your battles. Like I
Speaker 3: do have friends, this is it, but they're just not
Speaker 3: my close friends, like my inner inner circle of really
Speaker 3: good friends. Understand that if I'm asking if I'm you're
Speaker 3: mad at me, and you know you're not, I need
Speaker 3: to support right, You're not going to scoff at me.
Speaker 3: You're not going to say I'm being crazy. You're gonna say,
Speaker 3: no way, I love you.
Speaker 1: You're being insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people do that.
Speaker 2: I also feel like, let your people have mood swings
Speaker 2: because there's one thing about me. I'm a moody girl,
Speaker 2: and I also befriend moody girls. And sometimes you just
Speaker 2: can't take it personally. Like let's say I'm having an
Speaker 2: off day and then you assume because I haven't said
Speaker 2: what it's explicitly about let's pretend it's not happening.
Speaker 1: That's not helpful.
Speaker 2: True, I feel like acknowledge, and if the acknowledgment isn't
Speaker 2: taken well, then you know what to do.
Speaker 1: Wrap it up.
Speaker 3: Wrap it up?
Speaker 1: Sis, you go, what's going on for mey? She says, Oh, FLEXI, Oh.
Speaker 5: We get into it.
Speaker 1: You don't even know we get into it.
Speaker 3: We had a listener submission. Somebody sent us a DM
Speaker 3: via the Flex and Frooms Instagram, which, might I add,
Speaker 3: is popping off. Our producer, Mikayla and the various social
Speaker 3: media team that does the Flex and Frooms Instagram have
Speaker 3: been popping their bussy. I recently got access to the login,
Speaker 3: so if you want to send a personal message, please
Speaker 3: send it there. I will be reading it only if
Speaker 3: it's nice and our listener, Georgia, has sent in a
Speaker 3: bit of a thought starter for the girlies, which this
Speaker 3: is my favorite kind of message. She begins, high, pretty
Speaker 3: princesses already t the box, Love the podcast with all
Speaker 3: my heart. Big discussion in the office today, I would
Speaker 3: love to hear your thoughts on would you rather companies
Speaker 3: pay to have the ads installed into your memory or
Speaker 3: prefer to actually have to watch the ads before any
Speaker 3: piece of content YouTube, TV, TikTok et, cetera, assuming that
Speaker 3: if the ads are in your memory, you never actually
Speaker 3: have to endure watching them. Results here were fifty to fifty. Wow,
Speaker 3: this is an incredible question, Georgia. I love it. I
Speaker 3: want to start off by saying, I studied advertising, oh
Speaker 3: at university. Don't out yourself, that is who I am.
Speaker 3: At the time, I didn't realize, like I didn't know
Speaker 3: that you could study advertising. I went to UNI originally
Speaker 3: to do journalism, started doing journalism. First lecture, the lady says,
Speaker 3: if you want to be on TV, this isn't the
Speaker 3: course for you.
Speaker 2: So you left, pack the bags, pack the note before
Speaker 2: the census state, pack the notebooks that I diligently brought
Speaker 2: from office works into my little crumpler backpack.
Speaker 3: So this is not for me, and yeep back to
Speaker 3: Melbourne Central Station to go home to.
Speaker 1: My care out here.
Speaker 3: It's this isn't right.
Speaker 1: Literally, you're like, what do they mean?
Speaker 3: Imagine working so hard and spending so much money on
Speaker 3: a school to only find out that the course that
Speaker 3: you work so dilling to get into.
Speaker 1: It's not even relevant. But look at you. Now.
Speaker 3: Look, I mean, now, when did advertising and I thought
Speaker 3: that advatised. I didn't think that people thought it was
Speaker 3: a bad thing. Like I thought advertising was creative and cool.
Speaker 3: People love ads. Little did I know in some of
Speaker 3: the lectures they'd be like, you know, people say ads
Speaker 3: are bad?
Speaker 1: I was like, what the manipulative god?
Speaker 3: Like this is just fun. We're just like learning to
Speaker 3: draw pictures on Photoshop.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's ads that people don't like? Or
Speaker 2: how almost like disruptive they can be, like it takes
Speaker 2: you out of your favorite moment, it's berating you, one
Speaker 2: after the other after the other after the other.
Speaker 1: I feel like outdoor.
Speaker 2: Advertising isn't as disruptive as like digital advertising.
Speaker 3: Some people hate them. Some people think outdoor advertising I.
Speaker 1: Guess it ruins the landscape.
Speaker 2: And we had all these beautiful trees, and now what
Speaker 2: do we see?
Speaker 1: Show me what we let me say? I think I.
Speaker 2: Would prefer them burned into my brain because there's nothing
Speaker 2: like feeling as though every good idea you have, of
Speaker 2: every inkling came from you and you alone. Like if
Speaker 2: I wake up one day and I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 2: really want to sign up to that cool new gym.
Speaker 2: I would love to feel as though just it's an
Speaker 2: idea that came to came to and I'm just acting
Speaker 2: on my natural impulse. If I go and buy a
Speaker 2: new toilet cleaner, I'd love to feel like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: you're another one amazing, as opposed to being so like
Speaker 2: involved in the process. I think that's what I don't
Speaker 2: love about digital advertising sometimes is that everything has to
Speaker 2: feel like a choice, another choice, another choice, this ad,
Speaker 2: not this ad.
Speaker 1: Skip this ad, watch this ad? Do I like this ad?
Speaker 1: What's this ad for? Does theyone know?
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, Like we don't need it
Speaker 2: to be intentional for the desire to come anyway. I
Speaker 2: think that's my issue with it, you know, like so
Speaker 2: much of what I desire about the life is unintentional,
Speaker 2: program subconscious, and I feel better about that.
Speaker 3: I personally would like to see all the ads. I
Speaker 3: love the creativity of the advertisers. I love seeing how
Speaker 3: much money is bringing as much.
Speaker 1: How do you love the jingles?
Speaker 3: No, I'm telling you jingles like what I wanted to
Speaker 3: be as a child, if not a presenter, was a
Speaker 3: jingle making. I've got them both downpat, So believe in
Speaker 3: your dreams. Study advertising, folks and watch the ad.
Speaker 2: Can the creativity of advertising could be funneled into cinema
Speaker 2: and TV, because my goodness, why are we doing twenty
Speaker 2: six hundred hours of a TV show that is not
Speaker 2: concise and wrapped up? And ad can tell you everything
Speaker 2: you need to know about health insurance in fourteen seconds.
Speaker 3: That's why I need to become have a TV show
Speaker 3: the pipeline. No, but I'm serious.
Speaker 2: Can learn how to be articulate through making TV.
Speaker 3: You're listening to Flex and Rooms on Kaita Mikayla, how
Speaker 3: much loved producer has sent me? Oh she did little heart? Guys,
Speaker 3: when did these little hearts start happening with the fingerpop
Speaker 3: k pop? I know, but I'm just seeing every man
Speaker 3: in the dog do. I absolutely love these little cultured
Speaker 3: It's a new thing to me.
Speaker 1: You too, many We just need to know we get
Speaker 1: from her so.
Speaker 3: Much love with the little love heart hands and she
Speaker 3: sent in this TikTok And it's quite an important question.
Speaker 3: I think most people in the audience need to know
Speaker 3: me And it's a POV type thing, guys, me trying
Speaker 3: to explain to literally every man that it's extremely important
Speaker 3: to post your GF from time to time, whether it
Speaker 3: be on a story or in an IG post, because
Speaker 3: it not only shows her off and makes her feel
Speaker 3: more confident and secure in a relationship, but it also
Speaker 3: is a heartfelt gesture that shows that you're not ashamed
Speaker 3: to be with her. It's just the aspect of showing
Speaker 3: you appreciate her and not hiding her existence that's so crucial.
Speaker 3: Micky as the token relationship girl in the podcast Studio
Speaker 3: me Flix and Michayla.
Speaker 1: Token relationship girl, she is?
Speaker 3: Does your BF post things about you?
Speaker 5: Almost? His whole Instagram is me?
Speaker 3: Stop it?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I could show you. He has a little hat
Speaker 5: that says taken and he wears it everywhere. It's his favorite.
Speaker 3: Please show me it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll show you. I'll show you. Do you know
Speaker 5: what's funny? My ex boyfriend posted nith n.
Speaker 3: Me and how long were you together? In?
Speaker 5: Two years?
Speaker 1: And then at the time, what do you think that was?
Speaker 5: I don't think he wanted to why. I think he
Speaker 5: was ashamed of me. Oh, Mikayla, I do like, I'm
Speaker 5: resolved with it.
Speaker 1: Now you got taken.
Speaker 5: I'm fine with it now. We were doing long distance
Speaker 5: and I think he hated the fact that we were
Speaker 5: doing long distance.
Speaker 3: Was it your choice?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like, could have you been together? Were you inter state?
Speaker 3: What's the vibe?
Speaker 5: He didn't want to leave Melbourne ninety when leave Sydney.
Speaker 1: Oh so look you're in punishment? Yeah? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5: My current boyfriend Justin is his name Justin?
Speaker 2: Yeah, his name's just taking hat.
Speaker 1: Just Yeah.
Speaker 5: He's always wearing his all taken hat. His photos of
Speaker 5: us in taken hats? You please?
Speaker 1: May I Justin? I'm obsessed with love my god.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he post photos me all the time. But do
Speaker 5: I think it's a requirement for him to post photos
Speaker 5: of me? No?
Speaker 1: No, I will.
Speaker 3: Say, I don't want to be that girl because I
Speaker 3: don't post fodders of my boyfriend.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to me through me say it.
Speaker 3: But I think it kind of is a red flag
Speaker 3: if you don't want to post them.
Speaker 5: Oh, one hundred percent red flag.
Speaker 3: Like, unless you're an influencer, money depends on you being
Speaker 3: single and loving it.
Speaker 2: Look, I will say one thing that I am trying
Speaker 2: to learn is to measure someone's behavior relative to who
Speaker 2: they are, not who you are. So for me, when
Speaker 2: I didn't post someone I was dating a lot, I
Speaker 2: know that dating me, i'd feel some kind of way
Speaker 2: because you post everything, the most mundane things.
Speaker 1: Why aren't you posting me?
Speaker 2: In my defense, the internet is crazy and I don't
Speaker 2: think people can truly comprehend having one hundred different people
Speaker 2: message you yourself, and maybe like it's not fair to
Speaker 2: decide for people what they can and can't handle. But
Speaker 2: when I did end up posting him what happened. We're
Speaker 2: gonna beat this out, So I will say it's not
Speaker 2: a requirement. However, I do think that if it's something
Speaker 2: that your partner really wants, make an effort. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a disparity between someone who's like,
Speaker 2: I don't even care. That's why I don't post. It's
Speaker 2: exactly you don't care. This person cares a lot to
Speaker 2: meet them halfway. It's also such a shame that, like,
Speaker 2: relationships as a whole are so complex and we're stuck
Speaker 2: on the minutia, like we haven't even gotten into you know, if.
Speaker 3: We just want to. It's because we can't talk about
Speaker 3: serious things, but we want to talk about relationships.
Speaker 2: No, But don't you think, like for every person who's
Speaker 2: like my partner won't post me I'm like, that's not
Speaker 2: even your biggest problem.
Speaker 5: Yes, there's probably you need gratification for, hence you need
Speaker 5: the photo for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying, Like we're missing all this.
Speaker 2: Not posting the photo. They don't plan things is symptomatic
Speaker 2: of a big issue.
Speaker 1: We don't want to.
Speaker 2: Say it, oopsie, but I think we've got to start
Speaker 2: saying it.
Speaker 1: It's like, didn't for me read the book. He's just
Speaker 1: not that into you. We're we listening.
Speaker 3: I listened to the book for me.
Speaker 2: Listen to the book educated us and when are listening.
Speaker 1: This is a better.
Speaker 2: I have some great news, but what I mentioned that
Speaker 2: we're on track for immortality people were not happy. So
Speaker 2: I don't know how this is going to land. But
Speaker 2: you can freeze yourself now in twenty twenty three in
Speaker 2: New South Wales in hopes of defrosting in a couple
Speaker 2: extra years.
Speaker 1: Be serious, maybe one hundred years later.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the timeline is, so you can hopefully
Speaker 2: live life one hundred years later as the age you
Speaker 2: are when you get frozen.
Speaker 1: How do we feel about it? I want to say
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly positive. But listen to this.
Speaker 6: Fifty people have signed up to be the very first
Speaker 6: Australians hoping to take a trip to the future. A
Speaker 6: facility in a rural New South Wales town is the
Speaker 6: first in the Southern Hemisphere to freeze humans in the
Speaker 6: hope that future technology will bring them back to life.
Speaker 6: It's now in operation seven years after it received council approval.
Speaker 1: Why this doesn't excite you, No.
Speaker 3: Because I don't want to live when my loved ones
Speaker 3: aren't there.
Speaker 2: You will make new loved ones, I promise. See you
Speaker 2: everybody you think you've loved in your lifetime? Have you
Speaker 2: not loved deeper?
Speaker 3: I can't get my mummy.
Speaker 1: Oh, don't do that.
Speaker 3: I'm being serious.
Speaker 1: Don't take a dere I.
Speaker 3: Mean, that's all I think about, is my mama.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like what would oh Shaather?
Speaker 2: It does concern me that the first ever is happening
Speaker 2: in New South Wales tech capital. But what I will
Speaker 2: say is it's nice to know that advancements are being
Speaker 2: made in capacity because why, while we may not want
Speaker 2: to freeze ourself, it's good to know that we're thinking
Speaker 2: creatively and laterally about ways to prolong our lives.
Speaker 1: The good old, eat.
Speaker 2: Well and exercise isn't hitting like it used to. It's
Speaker 2: not working the two fruit five vesis or whatever they're
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 1: It's not working. It's not hitting like it used to.
Speaker 1: We need new solutions.
Speaker 2: But also I think the more we talk about these
Speaker 2: life extending futuristic practices, I feel like we start to
Speaker 2: have a very interesting and necessary conversation about mortality, Like
Speaker 2: what are we doing with life currently? I think when
Speaker 2: we're doing our day to day grind, rise and grind,
Speaker 2: we kind of forget that number one, not to be grim.
Speaker 1: It could end in a second. But even if it doesn't, I.
Speaker 2: Don't really think we're living like the movies say we should.
Speaker 2: It's not Project X, Eat, Prey, Love, Mama, Mia, go
Speaker 2: to Greece.
Speaker 1: Who's your dad? I don't know? And that's what life
Speaker 1: is about.
Speaker 2: And suddenly when you hear that they're doing what is
Speaker 2: it criotherapy?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: When they're doing that in rural New South Wales, you
Speaker 2: start thinking who'd want to do that? Who wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to do that?
Speaker 3: Do you have to die?
Speaker 1: No? Like you you free them, you're hybernating.
Speaker 3: But you're alive when they phreeze you, right, because.
Speaker 1: Maybe like unconscious?
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, yeah, because like, is it when people die
Speaker 3: they're getting frozen.
Speaker 2: No, this is like because you know, like when you
Speaker 2: freeze something like I'm putting the bread in the freezer.
Speaker 2: I'm like prolonging the shelf fliesing their eggs the bread.
Speaker 3: It means that you would have to sacrifice your life
Speaker 3: now because you have to be in full health for
Speaker 3: them to then resurrect.
Speaker 1: But people aren't really living anyway.
Speaker 3: Would you do it, I'm not gonna do it. I'm chilling.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not going to do it, but I'm grateful
Speaker 2: to know that things are being done. I'm personally looking
Speaker 2: for the fountain of youth, to which that's why I
Speaker 2: love vamporism.
Speaker 3: Well, you look about ten years old, so you find.
Speaker 2: Literally if I could get bitten today, you think I'm
Speaker 2: not doing that. I'm getting bitten. I'm taking ten years
Speaker 2: off instantly to go run around in the forest.
Speaker 1: Like you said. Brawler's shoeless. He breathes in.
Speaker 3: And thoughts out, thoughts out.
Speaker 1: I'm sigarettes.
Speaker 3: What I would really love in this world, and I
Speaker 3: wonder if you feel the same. Everybody is to buy
Speaker 3: a Tesla. Say what you will about young Elon Musk.
Speaker 3: He really popped his bussy when he put the Tesla
Speaker 3: on Earth. I love the functions of it. And I
Speaker 3: was once in an uber that was a Tesla and
Speaker 3: it was one of the big four drive ones. Stay there,
Speaker 3: it felt like I was in this spaceship.
Speaker 1: Believe rate acoustics.
Speaker 3: My dad is in there. He was torn of the driver,
Speaker 3: being like, moh, where do you this? To my mate?
Speaker 3: Absolutely loving it, sick, just like browing down all the
Speaker 3: way in this Tesla. My friend has been dating this
Speaker 3: guy right who has a Tesla. Nice, I know, I said,
Speaker 3: go off, queen, does he have any mates? Okay, just joking,
Speaker 3: I said to her when they started dating, I'm like,
Speaker 3: can you tell him about the fart function? So when
Speaker 3: you own a Tesla, it comes with all these mods.
Speaker 3: So this guy, she told me, he's got a mod
Speaker 3: that makes everything Christmas theme. So when you put the
Speaker 3: blinker on, it's like jingle.
Speaker 1: Bell, jingle beard.
Speaker 3: When you too, it's like some Santa related And I said,
Speaker 3: oh my god, have you heard this? Friend of mine
Speaker 3: and I joke a lot about pooh humor. I know
Speaker 3: it's sickening. And I was like, do you know there's
Speaker 3: a fart one and she said, what next time they
Speaker 3: hang out, she's sending me this video of the fart content. Oh,
Speaker 3: I hope it's a video. Maybe it's just a photo. Okay, no,
Speaker 3: she's just it's just a photo of like all of
Speaker 3: the settings and you can pick whatever fart you want
Speaker 3: as the indicator. So this is what Elon Musk has
Speaker 3: written as a different type of farts. Not a fart short, shorts,
Speaker 3: ruper falcon heavy, ludicrous fart, neurostink, boring, fat, verified fart.
Speaker 1: I'm so brandon.
Speaker 3: I thought this is like play a gassy prank on
Speaker 3: anyone in your car from any seat. Oh, this is
Speaker 3: just like I just love Tesla's I just feel like
Speaker 3: it's so distracted.
Speaker 2: The innovations Tesla has doesn't make sense for how little
Speaker 2: time the average person spends in their car.
Speaker 3: I'd be spending all day in my damn test.
Speaker 2: This feels like when your car becomes your second house
Speaker 2: or your first house, then you can like great, like
Speaker 2: I need all these extra mods. But I guess it's like,
Speaker 2: isn't that the way that technology goes? In order for
Speaker 2: any tech to feel like it's got intrinsic value has
Speaker 2: to do more than what it's meant to do if
Speaker 2: your phone could only call you, Like, this thing is useless.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's just too many. Like I don't like having
Speaker 3: all the mod cons. I just want to, I just
Speaker 3: want to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we didn't have the mod cons, you know,
Speaker 2: we'd have healthy social life.
Speaker 3: And we'd be able to concentrate when we're doing a
Speaker 3: radio show.
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