WEBVTT - Stop right now, thank you very much. Talking Boundaries and Self worth.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Laura, I'm Brittany, and we have to make today's

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<v Speaker 1>episode snappy because currently my sister is in labor. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so exciting, okay, and I just want to really

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<v Speaker 1>reiterate our dedication, but specifically Laura's dedication to you guys

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<v Speaker 1>in this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to an early gym class and I get

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<v Speaker 2>a message from Laura being like, oh, my god, my

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<v Speaker 2>sister is in labor, and in my mind, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh cool, we're going to have to put this episode

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<v Speaker 2>on hold for a couple of days. I thought that's

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<v Speaker 2>where she was going with it, because we were recording

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<v Speaker 2>in two hours. So I wrote back on my god, congratulations,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you want to do about the pod? Then

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<v Speaker 2>when you want to reschedule it, she's like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to bring the episode. We always record this.

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<v Speaker 1>On a Monday, and obviously it comes out on a Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's in labor. And what we've had to do

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<v Speaker 1>this time around. So I was at the birth of

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<v Speaker 1>my nephew for the first time that my sister had

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, and this is her second kid, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be there when it's coming out. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be down there at the action end. And you

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<v Speaker 1>can only have one person in the room with you,

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<v Speaker 1>And so at the start she was like, so do.

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<v Speaker 2>I have my husband or do I have Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>But now they've kind of changed things a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>with COVID and you can have your partner, your birthing partner,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can also have a duela.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am pretending that I am a duela. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned because she's in labor right now and you're here.

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<v Speaker 1>No, her waters have broke, but she's not having contractions yet,

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<v Speaker 1>so she's waiting for them to come on, so she

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<v Speaker 1>would have this baby in the next twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 2>They do not slide out. I have a friend who's

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<v Speaker 2>slid right out.

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<v Speaker 1>These people who have babies that slide right out set

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<v Speaker 1>an unrealistic expectation on what birth is.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't call it labor for nothing. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>my expectation. Now I want to slide right out.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think I'm like, not the person that you

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<v Speaker 1>should have as a duela, Like I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 1>her woo girl. Like I'm like, you can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm also all for the drugs. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>duelas are mostly there to try and help you breathe

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<v Speaker 1>a baby out. Whereas the doctor comes in and my

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<v Speaker 1>sister wants to do it natural, she does not want

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<v Speaker 1>to have an epidurol. The doctor will come in and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, so, you know, have you thought about your epidurol?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of like imagine you're at dinner with

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<v Speaker 1>someone and they don't want to have dessert, and the

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<v Speaker 1>waiter comes over, and the waitershit paths where where I'm going?

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<v Speaker 2>Where I'm going with this?

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<v Speaker 1>The waiter comes over and the wai it's like, so

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<v Speaker 1>do you guys want dessert? And one person's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, and the other person's like, let's just look.

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<v Speaker 2>At the menu. That's me.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, do you want to epidural And she's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm like, let's just think about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's just bring the epi durol over. Maybe we can

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<v Speaker 1>share one.

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't I put the middle in a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>and then we'll decide whether we push. My girlfriend showed

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<v Speaker 2>me some photo she had a baby last week and

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<v Speaker 2>she had it at home in her house in a pool,

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<v Speaker 2>and so she has the dueler come as well, because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know what a duela was. Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 2>this was her first baby, yep, at home, no drugs

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<v Speaker 2>in a pool for her first child, that is aggressive.

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<v Speaker 2>And she showed me. I was like, can I see

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<v Speaker 2>because we're very close, like can I see the photos

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff? And she showed me. I couldn't even look.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I work in the theater. The more

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<v Speaker 2>potanm guts and cuts and stuff that I see, the

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<v Speaker 2>more excited I am. Watching the pain on her face

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<v Speaker 2>with his head coming out, and her husband looked like

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<v Speaker 2>he was in more pain than she did. His face

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<v Speaker 2>looked like he was going to be sick. I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't know how you did that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. And because you can't get the drugs

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<v Speaker 2>then even if you change your mind, no, and also

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<v Speaker 2>you can't because you're at your house. But not to

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<v Speaker 2>terrorize anyone who is pregnant or about to go into labor,

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this. So I went to my sister's

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<v Speaker 2>first birth before.

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<v Speaker 1>I was even pregnant with Marley, and it totally changed

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<v Speaker 1>my experience and my expectations around what birth was, if anything,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that most people would assume that they would

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<v Speaker 1>be more frightened after watching birth, but after watching my

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<v Speaker 1>sister give birth to my nephew, it made me less

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<v Speaker 1>frightened about birth. I was like, Oh, that's how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>They kind of come out a bit triangle. That makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>like the head is like a cone. So it really

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of took a lot of the fear out

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<v Speaker 1>of it for me. But anyway, she is in labor

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<v Speaker 1>to get this episode underway.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been a lot happening as well. Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Maths was on last night. Like I said, we're recording

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<v Speaker 1>this Monday, it'll come out tomorrow. That we sat through

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<v Speaker 1>the absolute shit storm, fire of surprises that was Maths.

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<v Speaker 2>What I did. Britain hasn't watched it yet. I've done

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<v Speaker 2>my cats up this morning and Laura and I have

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<v Speaker 2>just been in hysterics. I actually can't believe. How like,

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<v Speaker 2>when you think that that show couldn't possibly get any

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<v Speaker 2>worse or any more toxic or any more lava filled,

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<v Speaker 2>it does. It goes out and it trumps itself every

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<v Speaker 2>single week, and it's actually almost laughable. I look at

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<v Speaker 2>the show now and I'm laughing because I'm like this

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<v Speaker 2>is actually the fact, the fact that we're such sickos

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<v Speaker 2>that want to watch this and encourage these TV shows

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<v Speaker 2>is baffling to me.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lot going on in last night's episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, firstly, the whole Beck trying to cover

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<v Speaker 1>up her affair by saying that she was kissing her brother.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of you, like, you know what, an

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<v Speaker 1>affair is one thing, but an affair with your brother

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<v Speaker 1>is a whole other thing.

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<v Speaker 2>To deal with. I love that she thinks that that

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<v Speaker 2>is the fact that she saying an incestrous affair is

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<v Speaker 2>better excuse than saying I just kissed someone is actually ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Because like the first time, it was so easy to

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<v Speaker 1>miss what was actually being played on the screen, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it was so easy to kind of go like, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I missed it the first time. I was too

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<v Speaker 1>busy looking at the manhole thinking someone was going to

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<v Speaker 1>climb through it, so I kind of miss what was

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<v Speaker 1>happening in the corner of the screen. So maybe she

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<v Speaker 1>missed a bit of it and she was like, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was my brother. But then when you listen back,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, oh, my baby, it just gets weirder and

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<v Speaker 1>weirder quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>To anyone that didn't watch it. Long, long story short,

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<v Speaker 2>Beck had to leave the show really quickly for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks to go and look after a sick dog.

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<v Speaker 2>While she was away, they were supposed to like record

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<v Speaker 2>different things as they go and send it back to

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<v Speaker 2>the producers for when they come back. So she's come

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<v Speaker 2>back after a couple of weeks. She's handed a phone

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<v Speaker 2>into the producers. But in that time that she was home,

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<v Speaker 2>she was recording something. She's obviously forgotten to turn a

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<v Speaker 2>phone off. The phone has fallen onto the ground and

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<v Speaker 2>it's got this awkward angle of it shooting up into

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<v Speaker 2>the ceiling. You can see the ceiling. Then in the

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<v Speaker 2>corner you see her making out with a guy. She

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't even known this has happened. She's then given it

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<v Speaker 2>to the producers unknowingly, and they have put her on

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<v Speaker 2>the spot in front of everyone, calling her out for

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<v Speaker 2>like making out with someone, to which she said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it was my brother. That is the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine being that producer and stumbling across that.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bit of gold, you would be like, fuck, I

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<v Speaker 2>have just made this season. Give me hey rise, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>that they definitely got to pay rise that producer.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it was insane, Like, I mean, that was the

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<v Speaker 1>bombshow that nobody was expecting.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a little part of me and I read

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<v Speaker 1>a few things this morning that we were a bit

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<v Speaker 1>frightening online with people going to town about Beck. This

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<v Speaker 1>always happens when somebody has behaved so badly and there's

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<v Speaker 1>been terrible decision making and people have been hurt on

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<v Speaker 1>reality TV shows, it always ends up kicking off and

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<v Speaker 1>social media, as we know always. But Booker, who is

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<v Speaker 1>on the experiment as well, she has come out in

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<v Speaker 1>defense of Beck today because of the absolute like vitriol

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<v Speaker 1>that she is experiencing. And I guess sometimes as much

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<v Speaker 1>as what it was wildly entertaining entertainment and also something

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<v Speaker 1>that I think finally people had their like, oh I

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<v Speaker 1>knew I didn't. I knew there was something that you

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<v Speaker 1>were hiding. You know that people kind of felt validated

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<v Speaker 1>and their reasons for not liking Beck along throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>series because she has treated Jake pretty poorly. But Booker

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<v Speaker 1>has come out and said, I'm not defending the choices

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<v Speaker 1>that Beck made along the way, but please remember that

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<v Speaker 1>she is a human being, complex, flawed, jaded, and sentient,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the rest of us. Beck has had to

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<v Speaker 1>endure a level of cyberbullying and cruelty from the public

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<v Speaker 1>that I cannot even comprehend. Too many mass participants over

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<v Speaker 1>the years have had to endure the same vile and

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<v Speaker 1>often violent online abuse that I am seeing Beck receive.

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<v Speaker 1>The lasting impact this cruelty can have on them is

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<v Speaker 1>utterly fucked. And I read that today and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes it brings you back down to reality and

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<v Speaker 1>you go, Okay, you know what, Yes, it's a show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes people make bad decisions. Yes what she did was

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly flawed and incredibly selfish, But does the crime fit

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<v Speaker 1>the punishment? You're doing this cheating on such a huge scale.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people just cheating their day to day and a

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<v Speaker 1>few people hate them, and you're not with their brother.

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<v Speaker 1>This is true, But anyway, it's like a good reality

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<v Speaker 1>check that yes, these things have happened, and yes we

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<v Speaker 1>can all have our opinions on it, but is it

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<v Speaker 1>healthy to voice those opinions on social media?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not. I absolutely agree, And it's the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>with all reality TV shows, The Bachelor. We've all been

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<v Speaker 2>through it, married at first sight, I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably way worse. But it's never okay to go on

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<v Speaker 2>someone else's page and bully them, give them death threats,

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<v Speaker 2>send them dms. It is completely unacceptable, even if you

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<v Speaker 2>think that in your heart of hearts, that is a

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<v Speaker 2>human on the other end, even if we don't agree

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<v Speaker 2>with what they've done. And I cannot stress this enough,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tag your friends, laughing at in people's faces, don't

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<v Speaker 2>write nasty things to them. For sure, if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to go and have a debrief with your friend, that's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but it really really does leave a lasting effect. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>having said that, we're not saying that what Beck did

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<v Speaker 2>is okay, and I want to make it clear my

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts and opinions, and that is I'm glad that people

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<v Speaker 2>are out defending Beck as well, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay for a woman to cheat in gas light

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<v Speaker 2>and not a man because she's a woman. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that if we're going to judge someone to one extent,

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<v Speaker 2>that we need to accept that gaslighting is gaslighting. Cheating

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<v Speaker 2>is cheating, whether it comes from a woman or a man,

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<v Speaker 2>and there are obviously circumstances behind that that we have

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<v Speaker 2>to weigh in on, and we do have to know

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<v Speaker 2>and the journey that these guys are going on, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't even imagine the stress. There's a lot that goes

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<v Speaker 2>on behind closed doors that we will never be privy to.

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<v Speaker 2>We just won't know it. Oh yeah, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that sometimes we think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>gas lighting is a strictly male trait, and it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>And this season has shown us that it does not discriminate.

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<v Speaker 2>Put it that way. Wholes and men are our wholes.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're all a pack of our wholes. Seriously though,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do agree, like I think we can be

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<v Speaker 1>held accountable for those actions, but just to being shown

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<v Speaker 1>on TV and the whole of Australia watching is more

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<v Speaker 1>than enough of an accountability. The last thing the book

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<v Speaker 1>goes on to say, which I thought was just a

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<v Speaker 1>really awesome way. I just haven't heard someone put it

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<v Speaker 1>in such perfect wording. I'm going to read this out.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, if you are trying to make a point

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<v Speaker 1>about morality and core values by posting cruel shit, take

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<v Speaker 1>a moment to reflect on where your own morals and

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<v Speaker 1>core values lie. I thought that that was like a

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<v Speaker 1>really perfect way to sum this up. However, yes, Mass

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<v Speaker 1>is dumps to fire. We all enjoy it, but this

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<v Speaker 1>year it's really shown us a lot of toxic behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have had so many conversations off the back

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<v Speaker 1>of Mass because of the conversations that flow from what

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<v Speaker 1>isn't isn't acceptable in a relationship. And actually, today's podcast episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be talking about something which we touch on

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<v Speaker 1>on pretty much all episodes. We talk about boundaries. We

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<v Speaker 1>talk about self worth, we talk about knowing your value

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<v Speaker 1>and standing up for yourself and all this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>who are but we've never actually kind of unpacked what

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<v Speaker 1>does it mean to set boundaries? How does one set boundaries?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's all fine to say it, but if you're

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who struggles setting boundaries in your life, it's like, yes, great,

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<v Speaker 1>you all keep talking about it, but how the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>do you actually do this? And if you're someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>struggling with your self worth, saying, well, in order to

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<v Speaker 1>feel valued, in order to have boundaries, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>work on your self worth. It's kind of redundant as

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<v Speaker 1>well to have the tools, and it's a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a mental checklist that we're gonna do, like a health check.

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<v Speaker 1>Think of it like that, on whether or not you

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<v Speaker 1>have good self worth and whether or not you value

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and what you bring to a relationship, and not

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<v Speaker 1>just your romantic relationships, but your relationships with your friends,

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<v Speaker 1>your relationships at work, how you interact with people, how

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<v Speaker 1>you can set boundaries, and how you can increase your

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<v Speaker 1>self worth. That is what we're talking about today. However,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a few things we want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>First. I'm coming in hot with some goss. Now, Colton Underwood.

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<v Speaker 2>You may or may not know that name. Colton Underwood

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<v Speaker 2>was I actually remember I was obsessed with him. He

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<v Speaker 2>was so hot. He was a US bachelor a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years back. Now, to give you a wrap up

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<v Speaker 2>of who he is, he was on season fourteen of

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<v Speaker 2>The Bachelorette in the US, and that's where we sort

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<v Speaker 2>of first met Colton. He was this rugby player. He

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<v Speaker 2>was a virgin, which is why he sort of stood

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<v Speaker 2>out from everyone else, and he was just so hot.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like this all American guy, because I love

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<v Speaker 2>an all American and very Christian.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were like, this guy's so hot and so virgin, Like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's saving himself a marriage makes sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then he went on to start in Bachelor in Paradise.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw America fell in love with him even more,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean in Australia did too because I loved him.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he went on to be the Bachelor of Season

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three, so he was the be all in indul

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<v Speaker 2>and he ended up falling in love with this girl

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<v Speaker 2>named Cassie Randolph. They had this tumultuous on off relationship

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<v Speaker 2>on The Bachelor, but it was very obvious that he

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<v Speaker 2>was adamant, he was chasing her and he wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be with her. Then they had this beautiful love story

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<v Speaker 2>that only went on for a little while. They broke up,

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<v Speaker 2>and no one really knew why they broke up. It

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<v Speaker 2>all seemed very g rated to the outside world.

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<v Speaker 1>After they broke up, everyone was like, wow, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>really respectful, kind and amicable breakup. So strange that they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't make it work.

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<v Speaker 2>And then a couple of days ago on Good Morning America,

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<v Speaker 2>Colton went on and came out as gay.

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<v Speaker 3>I've ran for myself for a long time. I've hated

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<v Speaker 3>myself for a long time, and I'm gay and I

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<v Speaker 3>came to terms with that earlier this year. Have been

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<v Speaker 3>prices seeing it, and the next step in all of

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<v Speaker 3>this was sort of letting people know i'mlike the happiest

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<v Speaker 3>and healthiest I've ever been in my life, and that

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<v Speaker 3>means the world to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So this has sort of left America stunned. And the

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<v Speaker 2>reason we wanted to talk about this was how long

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<v Speaker 2>has he known this? How long has been battling this?

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone wanted to know if he knew when he went

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<v Speaker 2>on the Bachelorette originally and Bachelor in Paradise and the

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<v Speaker 2>ensuing the Bachelor. Was that fair that he did that

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<v Speaker 2>when he knew? Was he trying to work it out?

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<v Speaker 2>But the interesting thing about this and why we want

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<v Speaker 2>to bring it up is, firstly, America is really really

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<v Speaker 2>on his side and praising him for coming out and

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<v Speaker 2>working out who he is and going through that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think so a we and so everyone should. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really hard to work out your sexuality and who you

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<v Speaker 2>are and what you want. He was obviously battling this

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly with his religious beliefs and coming from a really

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<v Speaker 2>religious family. He did come out and say he did

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<v Speaker 2>not want to be gay, so he thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>fighting that. I read something that he had said which was.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone said to him, why did you go on and

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<v Speaker 2>be the Bachelor if you felt that you could be gay?

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, because I didn't know I was gay

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<v Speaker 2>and I had asked God to direct me. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to be gay. I asked God to

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<v Speaker 2>direct me. Then he was offered the bachelor position. He

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<v Speaker 2>said he honestly thanked God for saying, thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>showing me I'm not gay, and this opportunity is for

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<v Speaker 2>me to meet my female partner. So I can't imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've had friends that have battled this in

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<v Speaker 2>the past, and I can't imagine what it feels like

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<v Speaker 2>to be trying to fight who you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are and then also to try and navigate your sexuality

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<v Speaker 1>in a very public forum. We all know that people

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<v Speaker 1>who come off The Bachelor here have notoriety, but in

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<v Speaker 1>the States it's tenfold, Like the series is humongous over

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<v Speaker 1>there and there's millions of eys and millions of people watching.

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<v Speaker 1>There has been conversation about a Netflix series being made

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<v Speaker 1>around Colton Underwood coming out as gay and his self

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<v Speaker 1>exploration his discovery, like how he navigates this part of

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<v Speaker 1>life and what led him to want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it openly to cover sort of how he's now living authentically.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing though that is been.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit problematic around this, and something that's been

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<v Speaker 1>hugely swept under the carpet is that the breakup between

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie Randolph and Colton was not all peaches and roses

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<v Speaker 1>as what we were led to believe. And there were

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<v Speaker 1>articles that came out and statements that came out at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of last year, which was that Colton had

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<v Speaker 1>actually obsessively harassed, stalked, and put a GPS tracker on

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie Randolph's car. So he had also treated her with

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<v Speaker 1>some very frightening, controlling and obsessive behavior, which is also illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>She took out a restraining order against him, and they

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<v Speaker 1>had settled outside of court on all of this. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this conversation has been swept under the carpet,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is a petition that started because they're wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to boycott the Netflix series because there is a huge

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<v Speaker 1>group of people who don't think that somebody who has

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<v Speaker 1>been guilty of these offenses towards a woman should be

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<v Speaker 1>given a platform, matter even if it meant that he

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<v Speaker 1>then had to find out his sexuality as a byproduct

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<v Speaker 1>of that. But people shouldn't be hurt in the process.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the question here is like, just because

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<v Speaker 1>he was discovering his sexuality doesn't give a right to stalk, harass,

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<v Speaker 1>and treat a woman in that way. We can't just

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<v Speaker 1>sweep the bad things under the carpet because we're like, oh, great,

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<v Speaker 1>you now know who you are as a person.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And it's pretty obvious that everybody under the sun

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<v Speaker 2>in America wants to get their hands on Colton. They

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<v Speaker 2>want to interview him, they want to make their documentaries

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<v Speaker 2>on him, they want him, want their magazines, they want

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<v Speaker 2>them on their shows. It's almost obvious that he has

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<v Speaker 2>said to them, I will come and interview with you

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<v Speaker 2>if these questions are not asked, if it's not discussed

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<v Speaker 2>about the stalking and the harassment, because it's just literally

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<v Speaker 2>like it didn't happen, which is why we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>We are so supportive of him coming out. I absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>love that for him, but I think it's really important

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't sweep it under the rug that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was stalking and harassing someone that had to take

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<v Speaker 2>out an AVO and he has had one statement. So

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<v Speaker 2>he did address the allegations once, but it was in

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<v Speaker 2>an unaired segment of his Good Morning American, but it

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<v Speaker 2>has made its way out into the world, and he says,

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<v Speaker 2>I made mistakes in the end of that relationship, and

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<v Speaker 2>I ruined the good memories we had by my actions

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<v Speaker 2>and what I did to hold on to me being

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<v Speaker 2>straight because I didn't want to look myself in the mirror.

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<v Speaker 2>For that, I'm extremely sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, No, I hate this statement because I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to way. I feel like that is totally downplaying. You

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<v Speaker 1>can say, yeah, look, I hate that I did things

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<v Speaker 1>because I was struggling. No, there's no onus in that

0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.000
<v Speaker 1>statement that says, well, I acknowledged that I stalked, harassed,

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<v Speaker 1>and intimidated a woman and made her feel so frightened

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<v Speaker 1>that she needed to get a restraining order out against

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<v Speaker 1>me because my behavior is completely unacceptable. There's no ownership

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<v Speaker 1>in that statement. And I think that that's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's really infuriated some people around this. And I guess

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<v Speaker 1>with coming out as gay and with him doing very

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<v Speaker 1>publicly on Good Morning America, he has been given the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to rewrite his narrative and people are really celebrating

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<v Speaker 1>him and heroing him for being so brave to do so,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the process we're forgetting that actually we cannot

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<v Speaker 1>just ignore one thing that's happened, and hurting people doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be a byproduct. And you know what, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to hurt people whilst we try and

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<v Speaker 1>figure out who we are and work through our own junk.

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<v Speaker 1>But there has to be some acknowledgment of that hurt

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<v Speaker 1>and there has to be real remorse for it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I just feel like it hasn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>made amense. But there's something lacking in this conversation for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it's all become about how wonderful his

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<v Speaker 1>coming out story is, and there hasn't been enough onus.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, but that coming out story has really

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<v Speaker 1>damaged somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. There's a man called Brett Viagara and he's part

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<v Speaker 2>of the Bachelor Diversity campaign. He had a great comment

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<v Speaker 2>that he put out to the public. It was first,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to see Colton more at peace and happy

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<v Speaker 2>that he can live more as his true, authentic self.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll always be in support of that, but that does

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<v Speaker 2>not excuse the abusive manipulative and literally illegal stalking behavior

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<v Speaker 2>he displayed in his past relationship, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>that is votrue and that is really important. People are

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<v Speaker 2>going to support him, But do we support him to

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<v Speaker 2>the level where we give him a whole nother platform.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying we shouldn't. I'm not saying we should.

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<v Speaker 2>I just find it a really interesting conversation and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>actually looking forward to seeing what happens with that and

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<v Speaker 2>where it goes. Yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the last thing that I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>on this is that I have heard quite and when

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<v Speaker 1>we were doing our research, I did see quite a

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<v Speaker 1>few conversations around this, and there were some conversations going

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth, which was that he absolutely should not

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<v Speaker 1>apologize for the fact that he was figuring out his sexuality.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, there's been some people posting the question,

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<v Speaker 1>should he apologize to the women who he was dating

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<v Speaker 1>on the show? Should he apologize to his ex fiance

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<v Speaker 1>for leading them on? Basically this was the questioning, And No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that anybody should ever have to apologize

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<v Speaker 1>for their sexuality whatsoever. Like we're all entited to live

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<v Speaker 1>our lives authentically and however long it takes us to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out who we are, that's part of our journey. However,

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<v Speaker 1>if we have casualties along the way because we're figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out our junk and we're taking it out on other people,

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<v Speaker 1>other people are not punching bags to help us figure

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<v Speaker 1>out who who we are. And if that does happen,

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<v Speaker 1>which in this case definitely has, then I think that

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<v Speaker 1>people are owed an apology. And I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying this because I'm a martyr by any means,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I have hurt people whilst I have gotten through

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<v Speaker 1>my own personal junk, and I think, in reflection, those

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<v Speaker 1>people deserve apologies.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like, well, whilst you're hurt, you can do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to other people so long as you

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<v Speaker 1>get to a point of self enlightenment. No, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're responsible for the damage that we do to other people.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine having a big fight with.

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<v Speaker 2>Your partner on the street, right and you're swinging your

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<v Speaker 2>arms around and you're having this big argument and then

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<v Speaker 2>you accidentally hit someone and pass it by in the

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<v Speaker 2>head with your hand swinging around manically. You turn around

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<v Speaker 2>and you say sorry, they were a byproduct or you

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<v Speaker 2>figuring your shit out. This is my example. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not apologizing because you meant to go out and

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<v Speaker 2>hurt them, but you're apologizing because, regardless of your intentions,

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<v Speaker 2>they did get hurt in you figuring your shit out.

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<v Speaker 1>So totally and on a greater scale. You know, people

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<v Speaker 1>have childhood trauma, people have ex relationships trauma, not just

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<v Speaker 1>relative to sexuality. But we're all figuring our shit out,

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<v Speaker 1>all of us, and on different levels and scales of

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<v Speaker 1>what is and isn't traumatic. We're all getting over something

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<v Speaker 1>in life or have gotten to a point where we're

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<v Speaker 1>over it. But the thing is is like we still

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<v Speaker 1>have to be responsible for the impact that we have

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<v Speaker 1>on other people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm the first person, one hundred percent to say

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<v Speaker 2>that people make mistakes, people can rewrite their story. People

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<v Speaker 2>can if they own it and get help for whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing, that we don't have to necessarily hold anything

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<v Speaker 2>against those people. What I would like to see one day,

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<v Speaker 2>if this is contradictory to what we've just said, if

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<v Speaker 2>he can come out and say, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 2>was so sorry, I've got help for that, and anything

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<v Speaker 2>else that goes with that, it would be pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>To see a gay bachelor. Totally like to have all

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<v Speaker 2>the men there and whether that's him or that's someone else,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter. But I think that would be especially

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<v Speaker 2>for America where their platform is like millions and millions

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<v Speaker 2>and millions of people, it would be amazing to see

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<v Speaker 2>a gay bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>The issue with a gay bachelor is how logistically would

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<v Speaker 1>it work? Because if you had a whole heap of

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<v Speaker 1>hot guys and a house.

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<v Speaker 2>But that is but that's the problem, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>they've openly said before. They're like, it'll be like no

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<v Speaker 2>one wants is that little just pair off in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>But it'd be fun to watch just on from that.

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<v Speaker 1>In regards to the Netflix series, I think we can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sometimes be very quick to shut something down

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<v Speaker 1>before it's been fully fleshed out or realized. If they

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<v Speaker 1>were to do a Netflix series on Colton's coming out,

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<v Speaker 1>I would hope that that Netflix series encompassed and really

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<v Speaker 1>addressed what happened there.

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<v Speaker 2>I really hope that it isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Just glorifying or showing how empowered it is for him

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<v Speaker 1>that he's acknowledging who he is as a person, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is also really delving into the dark times and

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<v Speaker 1>what that implication and what that caused. And it does

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<v Speaker 1>cover the fact that he's stalked and harassed, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that it covers everything in its completeness and those

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<v Speaker 1>things aren't swept under the carpet because we're so wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to see this empowered coming out story.

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<v Speaker 2>So at Netflix, if you're listening, if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, do all of it, do it properly. Show

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<v Speaker 2>the good and the bad and the pretty ugly, the

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<v Speaker 2>celebration and the whole journey it took to get there,

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<v Speaker 2>Like put it out in the open that he did

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<v Speaker 2>go through this period, but he has gotten help and

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<v Speaker 2>he's come out on the other side a better person.

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<v Speaker 2>Without all the complexities being discussed, it's problematic, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's why people will boycott it. So interesting to.

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<v Speaker 1>See that one Well, I think that is enough from

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<v Speaker 1>us before we get into our favorite part of the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is accidentally unfiltered. Now accidentally unfiltered for anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who is new, is where you guys send in your

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<v Speaker 1>most embarrassing stories and we read them out and we

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<v Speaker 1>all laugh together at you and at your expense, but

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<v Speaker 1>together as a community because we all build each other

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<v Speaker 1>up here at Life I'm Cut.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna start with one of just this little thing

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<v Speaker 2>that happened to me this week. If you're like an

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<v Speaker 2>avid listener of Life I'm Cut, you'll know that this

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<v Speaker 2>happens to me all the time. And you think that

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I would learn from my mistakes, but I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>often tell you guys about my typos that I do

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm sending out emails to clients or business emails

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, because I've got I have two laptops. Quite

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<v Speaker 2>often I'm doing two things at once. I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>thousand things in my brain. I type two quickly and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't go back and read it, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>send it. So you all know that I did the

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<v Speaker 2>email a few weeks ago where I went to say

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<v Speaker 2>hello Sian, and I said hello Asian. Her name is Shan, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>no bit I A.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I who we work with, and her name is

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<v Speaker 1>Shan Yeah, hey Shanna.

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<v Speaker 2>Know you're listening. It's Irish, but I just say it

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<v Speaker 2>in my head. I read it phonetically, s I A N.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I wanted to just pretend that never happened

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<v Speaker 2>and fall into a hole in the ground. But I

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<v Speaker 2>have done it again, but at least this one was

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<v Speaker 2>more on me. So yesterday I was writing an email

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<v Speaker 2>and my fingers must have been moving too quickly. And

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<v Speaker 2>I always sign off as Britt bri double t. I

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<v Speaker 2>never write Brittany because it's just easier to say Britt

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<v Speaker 2>with a kiss. My fingers must have got a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit excited. I went to write Bri, I dold team

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<v Speaker 2>press end and I went br Enter, but as signed

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<v Speaker 2>off as britt tit like it went bri t t

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<v Speaker 2>I t like. I added an extra and it put

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<v Speaker 2>a when almost brick tit. I was like, what, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how I can do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mind regards brit tit, brit tit, have a

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<v Speaker 1>great day with your tits.

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<v Speaker 2>She's gonna think that that's like my nickname. She's the

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<v Speaker 2>next time she gonna write back, she's like, hey, brit

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<v Speaker 2>tit ry brittit. Actually we received.

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<v Speaker 1>Another message just before and I wasn't gonna say this

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<v Speaker 1>as an accidentally unfiltered because it was too brief. So

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>somebody had written in with an accidentally unfiltered story, which

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<v Speaker 1>is actually it's a very dark comedy. It's just bordering

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<v Speaker 1>funny but not funny. At the same time, someone had

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<v Speaker 1>passed away and she had replied to this text message.

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<v Speaker 1>So she'd received a message saying, Hey, I'm just letting

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<v Speaker 1>you know this person has passed away, and she went

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<v Speaker 1>to write back, oh god, and all she wrote back

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<v Speaker 1>was oh good and that's and then left it.

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<v Speaker 2>Far. It's like, it's we're laughing. It's not actually funny,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's the most it is the most unfortunate auto

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<v Speaker 2>correct you could have like that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what another really unfortunate one is? My

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<v Speaker 1>mum used to think that LOL stood for lots of love,

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<v Speaker 1>and she actually wrote loll at the bottom of somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>really rememorative folko that they had posted, being like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a year since blah blah blah passed away, and

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<v Speaker 1>my mum wrote lol.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, why mom, have you sidik? What the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>that makes sense? No, it truly doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, let's get into these accidentally unfiltereds Okay, I'm gonna

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 1>go first, and I have a real goody And it

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>never ever gets old that as soon as these embarrassing

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>things happen to you, guys, you want to send them

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<v Speaker 1>to us like straight away, I live for it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>last night I stayed at my friend's house and she

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<v Speaker 1>lives in an apartment. I was so fucking drunk that

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<v Speaker 1>I slept on her couch absolutely starkers, and at some

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<v Speaker 1>point throughout my sleep I decided I needed to get

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<v Speaker 1>up and go to the toilet. Well, let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>it all went wrong from here, so I must have

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<v Speaker 1>slept walk to what I thought was the bathroom. But

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<v Speaker 1>to my surprise, I walked out her front door into

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<v Speaker 1>the apartment hallway and was suddenly woken up by the

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<v Speaker 1>slam of her front door. I then realized in that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>I had locked myself out of her apartment butt fucking

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<v Speaker 1>naked and was unable to get back in. I knocked,

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<v Speaker 1>and I knocked, and she couldn't hear me. I needed

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the toilet so bad that I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up going into the bin shoot room and popping a squat.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this isn't the rest of the story. Something to

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<v Speaker 2>fall down the tin shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone tried to walk in the door to put their

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<v Speaker 1>rubbish in the bin, and I had to stop them

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<v Speaker 1>from seeing what they were about to see. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to scream no, don't come in. I'm about naked and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm locked out of my apartment. This guy was so

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<v Speaker 1>confused and he walked away. I then moments later see

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<v Speaker 1>a hand come through the door and he has gotten

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<v Speaker 1>his partner to get me a towel to cover up,

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<v Speaker 1>and then ring the intercom to my friend's apartment to

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<v Speaker 1>wake her. She wakes up and herself.

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<v Speaker 2>Comes to the door, but fucking naked. She was just

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<v Speaker 2>I ran into the apartment. I was so embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 1>I went back just then with some spray and wipe

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<v Speaker 1>to clean up my urine out of the bin shoot room.

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<v Speaker 2>And then like four hours later she messages again and

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<v Speaker 2>she goes update. I made contact with the neighbors and

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<v Speaker 2>they thought I was a junkie trying to rob the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, so bad. Last week's episode, we spoke about

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<v Speaker 2>Laura's old dating story where the guy she was seeing

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<v Speaker 2>basically locked himself out naked sleepwalking and ended up in

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<v Speaker 2>an office somewhere. But we asked you guys to send

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<v Speaker 2>us your sleepwalking stories in and I can't believe A

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<v Speaker 2>how many of your sleepwalk and b how many like horrific,

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.439
<v Speaker 2>hilarious things have happened to your sleepwalking, so we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to collate them and put them in another episode.

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<v Speaker 1>This last week, I think we have received some of

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<v Speaker 1>the best accidentally unfiltered stories that we have ever got,

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<v Speaker 1>So we keep teasing a bonus episode. But it is coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Because then every week we're like, we don't have time.

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<v Speaker 2>Just stop over committing. No, it is coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting it here, I'm putting it down. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say in print, what do we say, I'm putting

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<v Speaker 1>it down in the record. So we have to stay

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<v Speaker 1>committed to this. It is coming. All right, it's time

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<v Speaker 1>for your accidently unfiltered.

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<v Speaker 2>You just remember that and when it doesn't come. It

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<v Speaker 2>was Laura and on me. I have one today that's

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<v Speaker 2>concerning for me. I'm reading it out because I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's that funny, but I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>fucked up I'm so fucked up, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a really good intro to our chat today about boundaries.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go. I haven't accidentally unfiltered story from my

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 2>first ever proper boyfriend about thirteen years ago, and it

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 2>still haunts me to this day, not just because of

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 2>what happened, but also because somehow I stayed with him

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>for another year after this event, which also surprises a

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 2>lot of people when I tell them. We're in the

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<v Speaker 2>shower together one morning, just innocently, and I had my

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 2>back to him as I was lathering myself up with

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<v Speaker 2>the SuDS. I turned around and he was facing me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I saw that he had this really weird, concentrated

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 2>look on his face, and then he had one hand

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<v Speaker 2>behind his back. I said, Ah, what have you got there, kiddo.

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<v Speaker 2>He then brought his arm around from behind his back,

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<v Speaker 2>put out his hand, and proudly presented to me a big,

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 2>fuck off massive log of shit. He had a lot

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 2>of shit, Like, can we just think about this for

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<v Speaker 2>a moment? He had legit stood there and pushed one

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<v Speaker 2>out in his hand while standing up in the shower

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 2>with me, like it was no biggie, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>tried to hand it to me like some sort of

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 2>surprise gift. I'm so wrong, so like it's wrong on

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<v Speaker 2>every level. I screamed and ran out of the shower, naked,

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 2>almost sleeping and breaking my neck along the way. I

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<v Speaker 2>ran into the bedroom and closed the door while I

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 2>tried to process what had just happened. I could hear

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 2>him singing and whistling in the shower as he finished,

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 2>like nothing had happened. Once he got out and came

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 2>into the bedroom, all I could say was what did

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 2>you do with it? And he simply replied, Oh, I

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 2>just stepped it down the drain with my big tope.

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<v Speaker 2>I am sorry. This is the most discussing thing I

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<v Speaker 2>have read in a long time. If someone did a

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 2>log of pool in the hand, not even standing up straight,

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 2>he was erepped it. It was vertical and then caught it. Hey,

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 2>what are you eating that your pool is so long

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 2>and hard that you can snap it off? Yeah? Mine,

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 2>don't do that. That's a really good fiber gut right bare.

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 2>And what part of him thought it was okay to

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 2>hand it to her like, you know, member of South Park,

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 2>mister Stinky the poop the Christmas poo. So this is

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>a really prime example for me, and I think I

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 2>think it was mister Hanky. I think so the Christmas

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 2>poo is hanged to Hanky the Christmas poop. Anyway, I

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 2>think he is a better n We don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>unpack this for you guys, but I feel like this

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<v Speaker 2>is a really good segue into boundaries, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>one of my main boundaries. I've got a few, but

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<v Speaker 2>one of mine is don't shoot in the shower in

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<v Speaker 2>your handing handed to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to talk about how boundaries can

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<v Speaker 1>be fluid, but then you can also have firm boundaries.

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 1>And I would say that that's probably a very firm boundary.

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>It's a pick offense that one. I reckon that everybody,

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>not nobody has shatt in the shower with a significant other.

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>But I reckon everybody has shatt in the shower at

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<v Speaker 1>least once in their life, which is how you discover

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't not, Laura, Yes they have.

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Not everyone has. Okay, there is something really wrong with

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>you right now. Not everyone. I have never hand on

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 2>heart scouts, Honor have I shot in the shower. You're

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 2>a better person than me and Brittany. Okay, But I

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 2>was a kid. I was a little kid.

0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I would have been like seven, and I was like,

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I need to do a poo and I vividly remember

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>doing a pool in the shower and then being like,

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>holy shit, doesn't just flush down the drain.

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna stomp that thing down.

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>And I have never done it since I was a kid.

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like all kids figure this out the hard way.

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>That's how you learn.

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I expose yourself to new experiences, Brittany. My mum said,

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<v Speaker 2>you should the toilet, not in the shower, Brittany, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's how I learned.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I would have been about seven, maybe six,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did a pool in the shower and then

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I stumped it down, and I was so scared that

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>my mum would know that I did a pool in

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<v Speaker 1>the shower.

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<v Speaker 2>The only time that I would do a poo in

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 2>the shower is literally if I was on my deathbed

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 2>with gashtro and you know, when you're vomiting and pooing

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, you need to sit in the shower.

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 2>That would be it. I would never be like, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't be bothered to walk the two steps to the toilet,

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 2>so I'll do it here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so I was little and in the house growing up,

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the shower wasn't in the same room as the toilet,

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't two steps, it was the entire length

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<v Speaker 1>of the house. I would have to have gotten off towel, dried,

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<v Speaker 1>gone to the toilet, and then gone back in the shower.

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, let's just see what happens anyway.

0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll put up a pole. Maybe more people have putted.

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 2>If I don't, they're sick.

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>They don't do it like they hand down though, that'll

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>definitely end up in downly mail Laura, shit's in the shower.

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Then I won't say where or how I know. I

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 2>just feel like last week fuckers. Okay, let's get into

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 2>the episode.

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 1>All right, guys. With the recent airing of the absolute

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>toxic dumpster fire that was Maths, and something happened on

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>last night's episode that really solidified why I wanted to

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>do this conversation, why we're making out with the brother

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>was not the ancestuous affair, Why we wanted to talk

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>about setting boundaries, how to do that, and how to

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<v Speaker 1>really increase your self worth. So what happened last night

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>on Maths if you guys didn't see it, Basically, there

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:44.719
<v Speaker 1>has been this ongoing rumor that Bryce has a secret girlfriend.

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Dn't and she wasn't a secret for sure did yes?

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>And lo and behold, Melissa has stood up for him

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>time and time again. She has denied any of the

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 1>red flags that people have been telling her. She has

0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>absolutely refused to believe when the other Testines have said, look,

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>someone from the outside world has contacted me. And on

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>last night's episode, they had video footage of Bryce's friends

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:10.479
<v Speaker 1>after what you would call, I guess their hometown visit,

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 1>discussing the secret girlfriend and confirming that it was true.

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:17.240
<v Speaker 1>And they showed this footage to Melissa, and Melissa still

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 1>sat there, even though she saw it, even though she

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>had the proof that she's always said that she wanted,

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>she still said, I'm not leaving. I love this man,

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to stay. And then Booker said something.

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>And the conversation that followed is the part that really

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 1>struck me as something that I was like, we need

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 1>to talk about this. So Booker said, I have received

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>phone calls from people on the outside world and that

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Bryce has a girlfriend. I have told you Liam has

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>received phone calls from people in the outside world. Liam

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 1>has told you other people in this experiment have heard

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 1>things and been told things, and we have told you.

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:54.879
<v Speaker 2>Are you telling me that moving forward, if we.

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.879
<v Speaker 1>Find out something about what Bryce has done, or how

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 1>you've been treated, or how you've been lied to, that

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to know about it?

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.839
<v Speaker 2>And Melissa said yes, I don't want to know about

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 2>it anymore.

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>In that moment, I just felt so just so sad

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>for her and so sad that you could be at

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:15.280
<v Speaker 1>a point in a relationship where you think, I don't

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 1>care what my partner's done wrong. I don't want you

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 1>to tell me because I'm not going to leave them anyway.

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 1>So what she was saying in that sentence is, it

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter if you tell me that he's cheated on me,

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 1>even if it's true, I'm not going to leave. And

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 1>there does come a point in this conversation where we

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>have to talk about self worth and setting boundaries and

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 1>the fear of someone leaving. You cannot be greater than

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 1>your own self worth. That's what we have to kind

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.320
<v Speaker 1>of have as a benchmark. Like we said the beginning

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>of the episode, this is maths. It's not all real,

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it's edited, a lot of it's inflamed.

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 1>We don't know exactly what happened in their relationship, but

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:53.280
<v Speaker 1>what we saw on TV is a really great basis

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 1>for a conversation around what a boundaries, How do we

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 1>create boundaries for ourself and how do we improve our

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 1>self worth so that we can make sure that we're

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>setting ourselves up for healthy relationships, not just in our

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 1>personal in romantic relationships, but in all the relationships and

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>interactions that we have with people in our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that I have learned from, you know, just

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 2>going through the shit storm of the last ten years,

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 2>is just being alive, just living. One thing I have

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 2>learned from living is where there's smoke this fire. And

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 2>I cannot reiterate that enough. Like that is such a

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 2>great strong saying to me. In this case with Bryce

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 2>and Melissa, it's one thing for her to not accept

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 2>a rumor when one person says it. And I can

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 2>applaud that if someone tells you a rumor, you go

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 2>to your partner and you ask them up front. The

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 2>reason you're with your partner is because you trust them.

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 2>That is why you're with them. He's given her an answer,

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 2>She's believed it, She's moved on. When there is this

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 2>much smoke coming from this many independent fires, you can't

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 2>deny that it hasn't happened. Like his friends have done it.

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 2>People have called other sources that are so concerned for

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 2>her that they're like, you need to go and tell

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 2>your friend that this is true. And like Laura said,

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 2>seeing that she would rather turn a blind eye. What

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>that is doing is very for her, but it's setting

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 2>a precedence in that relationship that that is what is

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 2>acceptable and that is tolerable, and that he can do

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 2>whatever he wants. He can cheat on her, he can

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 2>gaslight her, he can light to her, and that he

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 2>can still have her. Essentially, that is what her behavior

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 2>is telling him, And I would hate to see what's

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 2>going to happen in the future knowing that he knows

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 2>that he can do this on a public level and

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 2>not get called out. So he's one hundred percent gotten

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 2>away with cheating and gas lighting and now he knows

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 2>that it's okay whether he rains it in a little

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:31.399
<v Speaker 2>while because he's on a public platform now and people

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 2>will be watching them like a hawk or not.

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>This is also a very extreme case of not having

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 1>any boundaries at all. Like I think, you know, there's

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>definitely different layers of this. We can have soft boundaries

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 1>with our friends, which might just be you know, you're

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:45.800
<v Speaker 1>encroaching too much of my time and I'm not getting

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 1>enough of my own personal me time. It could be

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>at work where you're being asked to do jobs which

0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 1>are so far outside your skill set. For example, you

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:54.839
<v Speaker 1>might get to work and your boss might be saying,

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 1>pour me a bowl of cereal when you come in, Like, no,

0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to do that.

0:37:58.480 --> 0:37:59.320
<v Speaker 2>But he's an architect.

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's nothing that, there's no skill that that's actually

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:04.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, teaching me. I don't need to pour your sereal,

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>get it yourself. You've sogynistic woo unless it.

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 2>Anyway as a sister, and you happy to do everything

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 2>he says.

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 1>But so this is all about just like, you need

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>to set boundaries early in relationships, not like once you've

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 1>been together for five years or six years. That's not

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>to say that you can't do it later on in

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 1>a relationship, but it's a lot harder. The thing is,

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you need to start setting the boundaries and conditioning people

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>for the way that you want to be treated from

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 1>the very first meeting, because people become accustomed to it,

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and that it's much harder to change someone's behavior than

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>what it is to from the get go a really

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 1>strong boundaries, really strong self worth for them that to

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>flow into a healthy relationship in the future.

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:42.799
<v Speaker 2>What we are taught as well is and what I

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 2>have read is the reason is so hard because there

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.719
<v Speaker 2>are a lot of adults that don't have the right

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 2>boundaries in place. And the reason we're told this is

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:53.919
<v Speaker 2>is because we learn our behavior from when we're young.

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Most young people in their first relationships, they don't know

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 2>about boundaries yet because they're trying to figure their shit out,

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.799
<v Speaker 2>which is so fine, that's how we learn. But one

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 2>thing that the psychologists say we don't learn is from

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 2>this behavior and to where like late twenties and into

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 2>our early thirties. So it's really important that you go

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:11.839
<v Speaker 2>into your new relationship not in the same way you've

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 2>gone into your old relationships, but you need to know

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 2>before you enter a relationship, if possible, what it is

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 2>that's acceptable for you, what it is you want, and

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 2>where you want to go personally and in your relationship.

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Because if you can go into a relationship or your

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 2>new job or a friendship, if you can go into

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 2>any situation confident in yourself and knowing what is and

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 2>is not okay and what is and is not acceptable

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:40.720
<v Speaker 2>in a relationship, you're setting yourself up for a far better, longer,

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 2>and healthier relationship.

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So let's like unpack what is a boundary. I

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>know that we've all heard of this been thrown around before.

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Every single self help group will talk about boundaries. Britain

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 1>and I talk about boundaries all the time. But it's

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>something that's very, like I said, it very easy to

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:57.839
<v Speaker 1>talk about. A lot of people find it very very

0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:00.280
<v Speaker 1>hard to action within their own life. So about boundary

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>is a physical or metaphorical line between ourselves and others.

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Setting a boundary means requiring better treatment by others and

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>not allowing someone else to run over you. A boundary

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>provides a protective parameter around us, allowing us to operate

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>comfortably within it. And depending on your personalities and your

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 1>life experiences, some of us have stronger boundaries and more

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 1>reliant on those boundaries than others. Women are more at

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 1>risk of being very fluid with their boundaries than what

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 1>men are, and there's been a lot of studies that

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>have gone into why we as women often will be

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 1>flexible with our boundaries or will shape our boundaries and

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>change our boundaries depending on what relationship we're in. And

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that is because deep seated there is a conditioned want

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>to please people and there is also a nurturing side

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>of that.

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:45.879
<v Speaker 2>So the more empathetic that.

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>You are, the more nurturing that you are, the less

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>firm boundaries you may have in your life. So it's

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily a quality of weakness having loose boundaries, but

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 1>it is a quality of really wanting to either please

0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 1>other people, wanting other people to like you, or being

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 1>fearful of losing something that you have.

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Personal boundaries and self esteem they do go hand in

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 2>hand and taking responsibility for your own actions not blaming

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 2>other people. These are the two pillars of a really

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 2>really important book called Six Pillars of Self Esteem. So

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 2>this is a really good book that just from what

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 2>we've researched online that if you are looking into self

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 2>esteem or you're looking into boundaries, you can go and

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 2>read that online. But generally speaking, people with high self

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 2>esteem and high self worth, they usually have really good

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 2>strong boundaries because they know where they are, they know

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 2>what they want, and they know how to get there.

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 2>So practicing strong personal boundaries it is one way to

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:41.320
<v Speaker 2>build self esteem. And I think the connection between boundaries

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 2>and self worth is fascinating. So if you know that

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:48.919
<v Speaker 2>you're in a relationship that is not what you want

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 2>and it is not healthy, maybe you need to look

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 2>at why we are going to go through some things.

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 2>But is it because you are afraid that you will

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 2>not meet anyone else? Is it afraid that no one

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:02.799
<v Speaker 2>else will love you if you leave because behavior is unacceptable?

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Is it because you don't feel like you're good enough

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 2>for anyone else? Is it because you don't feel like

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:07.880
<v Speaker 2>you're good enough for the person you're in the relationship with.

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I know, for me, my boundary is now fucking so

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 2>strong that it's like hard for anyone to even get in.

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 2>This is like I put a fence up that I'm like,

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 2>this is how it is, is what I want, this

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 2>is what I'll accept. But it was not always like that.

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 2>It took me, like realistically, probably almost so. I was

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 2>thirty and I dated a lot of people over that

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 2>ten years, guys, But my toxic relationship he I'm not

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:31.719
<v Speaker 2>proud to say it, he walked all over me. I

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 2>let him treat me so poorly, the way he spoke

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.880
<v Speaker 2>to me, the way he acted, the lies, the gas lighting,

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 2>the cheating, the disappointment. I mean, I knew that he

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 2>was monitoring my online activity where I was, and I

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 2>buried it. I let it fly.

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 1>But did it happen slowly or was it something that

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>was there from the very get go, Because I think

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:53.799
<v Speaker 1>that's sometimes these and this is like an extreme case

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>of it, but I think that sometimes your boundaries can

0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 1>slip so slowly that you almost don't recognize that it's happening.

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 2>For me, it was very slow because it started off

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:04.840
<v Speaker 2>fantastic and loving and great. I thought I had the

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 2>boundaries and I was like, this is what I want.

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 2>I wanted this loving partner who wanted to do everything

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 2>for me and wanted to know where I was all

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:13.359
<v Speaker 2>the time. For me, it was very slow, But I'd

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 2>be lying if I said I didn't see a lot

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:16.959
<v Speaker 2>of red flags along the way.

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, one of the things that's really interesting about setting

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.320
<v Speaker 1>boundaries in your relationships is that often there's this fear

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that if you set boundaries, you're going to push people away,

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:26.400
<v Speaker 1>or someone's going to think that you're being mean or

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 1>that you're being too hard, and so we are fearful

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:31.839
<v Speaker 1>of doing that. We're fearful of saying no for fear

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 1>of upsetting someone else. But actually setting boundaries is a

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 1>way of strengthening your relationships because normal healthy relationships, that

0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 1>other person is going to go oh okay, there's a

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:45.279
<v Speaker 1>sense of vulnerability there. And like we always say, this

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 1>power and vulnerability. If you sit down and have a

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 1>really genuine, vulnerable, open conversation with someone around why they

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 1>have crossed your boundaries, why they have hurt you, and

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 1>why you feel.

0:43:57.840 --> 0:43:58.400
<v Speaker 2>The way you do.

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 1>And the thing is is when your boundaries being broken

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 1>or when someone is encroaching on them, you're going to

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 1>feel resentful, You're going to feel angry, You're going to

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 1>feel burnt out. This is the byproduct of not having

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 1>firm boundaries in place. So if you sit down with

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:13.280
<v Speaker 1>someone who cares about you and who you care about

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and say this is how I'm feeling, then that actually

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>creates a deeper bond with that person and a deeper

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 1>level of understanding. If it doesn't, like, if you set

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 1>boundaries and it creates issues in your relationship, then that's

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 1>probably a flag that that relationship isn't healthy anyway, because

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 1>only somebody who is codependent or toxic or wants to

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>control you is going to have issues with you setting boundaries.

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 1>It is a human right to have boundaries. It's a

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:40.840
<v Speaker 1>human right to be able to say no and protect

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 1>your well being and your own mental health. Every single

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.359
<v Speaker 1>person needs to be able to exercise this in order

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:49.399
<v Speaker 1>to be happy and in order to just not give

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 1>so much of themselves and leave nothing left in the

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 1>tank for themselves.

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:56.279
<v Speaker 2>So some examples of what unhealthy boundaries look like, because

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 2>it's very easy for us to sit here and say,

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 2>put your boundary out, don't have an unhealthy boundary, don't

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 2>have an unhealthy relationship. It's like, think about have you

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 2>ever seen two friends and I feel like everyone has this.

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 2>You've got these two friends and when they're together or

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 2>when you're with them, it's fantastic, it's awesome. But then

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 2>these friends will non stop complaining to you about each

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 2>other behind their back. That's unhealthy. That is not a

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 2>normal friendship. It's like Laura and I are hanging out

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 2>all the time, then me going to someone and complaining

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 2>NonStop about her and Laura going complaining non stop about me.

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like, it's not a healthy relationship. If that's the problem,

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:27.920
<v Speaker 2>we should be having open communication with each other.

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's back to what I said as well about

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 1>this idea of resentment. If you are having those relationships

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 1>where like face to face, it's great, but really you

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 1>have this underlying feud happening that you haven't voiced, and like,

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:41.880
<v Speaker 1>we've all done this. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 1>there have been times where it has gone behind my

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 1>back and being like a fuck, I'm really frustrated with Laura,

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 1>but there's a level of resentment there that hasn't been discussed.

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 1>And then a good friendship, you go and you have

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>a conversation and you work out why you're feeling that way,

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and then it resolves it, and then you get back

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:58.799
<v Speaker 1>to a place where you can be really happy and

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 1>your friendship is even deeper and better. And I know, like, oh,

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>we have had so many frustrations with each others, like you,

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 1>like we are we are seriously such close friends. And

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Britt knows me better than anyone, and I know her

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:12.280
<v Speaker 1>better than anyone as well, And like I love our friendship.

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:14.360
<v Speaker 1>This we can have a moment right now, I fucking

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 1>love you, got planned? I love you, and I love

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>our friendship. We have absolutely, over the course of the last

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 1>two years, had moments where we have been so frustrated

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 1>with each other, and it's been difficult to communicate that

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 1>straight away because sometimes it takes a little while to

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 1>understand why you feel frustrated personally. For me, I was

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 1>never frustrated at britt as a person, but I was

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>frustrated by the amount of work that this podcast took

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:40.399
<v Speaker 1>up at one point in time, because I just didn't

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:41.279
<v Speaker 1>have the hours in the day.

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 2>And it made me, really it almost made.

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Me feel anxious all the time because I knew that

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:48.399
<v Speaker 1>I had to edit after we finished recording, and then

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 1>that feeling of like, well, I've got to go home

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:52.360
<v Speaker 1>and do eight more hours on this made me feel

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.239
<v Speaker 1>really resent and that all compounded. And the reason it

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>compounded is because I hadn't sat down with Britain had

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:00.800
<v Speaker 1>an honest conversation around the fact that I was giving

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:03.359
<v Speaker 1>so much of myself above and beyond what I could

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 1>actually sustain and my time, and therefore I was starting

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 1>to feel resentful. I was starting to feel unappreciated. And

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>in that conversation we make changes and everything is frigging

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:16.279
<v Speaker 1>great now, you know. And that's the thing, like in

0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 1>a really great relationship, you can have vulnerable, honest conversations

0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:23.319
<v Speaker 1>about what is upsetting you and then that sets a

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 1>new precedent or a new boundary, and often more so

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:28.840
<v Speaker 1>than not, it can be about time restraints and people

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 1>wanting too much of your time.

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and that's like a crucial thing. Any time that

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:36.319
<v Speaker 2>Laura and I have had a frustration with each other,

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 2>we've always spoken about it. Even if it's not that

0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 2>day or a day later or a week later, we

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:44.000
<v Speaker 2>always come back to each other and we both end

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:45.960
<v Speaker 2>up feeling really bad about it and we're like, I

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 2>didn't know, we didn't know these, and I feel sorry

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:49.560
<v Speaker 2>because we would never want to hurt each other's feelings

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:52.759
<v Speaker 2>in anything. But the thing is with every relationship in

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:56.320
<v Speaker 2>your whole life, your partner, your work, your friends, your family,

0:47:56.880 --> 0:48:00.319
<v Speaker 2>you're different humans that look at things in a different way,

0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 2>that have different opinions, that have different boundaries, that have

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 2>different expectations, and you can't expect anyone else in your

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 2>life to just know what yours are without communicating it.

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:14.439
<v Speaker 2>So like our number one thing is communication. The next

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 2>thing is like an example of maybe you're single and

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 2>your friends in a relationship and they won't go out

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:21.040
<v Speaker 2>partying with you, or they won't meet you for a coffee,

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 2>or they can't do anything because their partner doesn't like

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:24.439
<v Speaker 2>when they go out with them, or their partner doesn't

0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:27.280
<v Speaker 2>like having too much time away. That is an unhealthy

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.279
<v Speaker 2>relationship for you, guys in a friendship because they're just

0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:34.400
<v Speaker 2>completely disregarding you. But it's also an unhealthy relationship that

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 2>they're sitting in as a couple saying that I can't

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 2>do this because my partner doesn't like it. It's not

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:40.439
<v Speaker 2>like they're saying I can't cheat on my partner because

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't like it. It's saying I can't go out

0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:44.360
<v Speaker 2>to dinner like you know. There's a level of control

0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 2>in there, and obviously.

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 1>You can't have sex with my brothersuse my partners. That's

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:49.319
<v Speaker 1>up that sorry bad.

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:51.960
<v Speaker 2>It's definitely something that is and we said at the beginning,

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 2>boundaries are fluid. If that is what works for you

0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:57.720
<v Speaker 2>and you're actually happy with it, then it doesn't really matter.

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:01.240
<v Speaker 2>If you know that you're doing something against your will.

0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:02.799
<v Speaker 2>You know that you're saying I can't go out with

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 2>you because my partner doesn't want me to, even though

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 2>you really, really really want to go out with them,

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 2>then that is a prime example of an unhealthy boundary.

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:11.439
<v Speaker 2>That's something you need to go back to your partner

0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:13.920
<v Speaker 2>and say, this is something that's really important to me.

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:15.399
<v Speaker 2>This is what I want to do, and I can't

0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:17.080
<v Speaker 2>be in a relationship where you don't let me live

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 2>my life.

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:20.319
<v Speaker 1>If you're somebody who really struggles with setting boundaries in

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 1>your relationships, whether it be work or whether it be

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:27.279
<v Speaker 1>your romantic relationships, there are five statements which I want

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:31.839
<v Speaker 1>you to say to yourself, and these are you are worthy,

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:35.279
<v Speaker 1>you are in the mirror, No, it is I have

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 1>a right to say no without feeling guilty. I have

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 1>a right to be treated with respect. I have a

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:43.839
<v Speaker 1>right to make my needs as important as others. I

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 1>have a right to be accepting of my mistakes and

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:48.839
<v Speaker 1>my failures. And I have a right not to meet

0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:53.719
<v Speaker 1>others unreasonable expectations of me. And like Britz said, you

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 1>have to communicate what is an unreasonable expectation. You know,

0:49:57.040 --> 0:50:00.400
<v Speaker 1>you cannot assume that everybody knows exactly what you're thinking

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:02.839
<v Speaker 1>and feeling, and you have to follow your gut. If

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:05.000
<v Speaker 1>your body is telling you that after you have an

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:07.720
<v Speaker 1>interaction with someone, or after someone asks you to do something,

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.680
<v Speaker 1>you say yes, but you feel angry about it, then

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:13.680
<v Speaker 1>that's your body telling you, Hey, a fundamental boundary here

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>is being crossed, and it's up to you to voice

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:18.400
<v Speaker 1>how you feel about that. It's up to you to

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:20.920
<v Speaker 1>start putting parameters in place. And I know that there

0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of self help books out there and

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 1>stuff that say, and we've said it before in this podcast,

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you just have to say no, and no needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be a firm no.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I say yes to everything. That's my thing. I'm

0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 2>totally boundary to that. We're so bad with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But also I think no, we think it's a really

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive word, and sometimes it does come across and sound

0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:42.799
<v Speaker 1>aggressive without giving an explanation behind. And if you're someone

0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:46.480
<v Speaker 1>who really struggles to say no without justifying your reasoning,

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:50.279
<v Speaker 1>maybe do a soft noe instead of just no.

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Work yourself up to it. Maybe it's a sorry I can't.

0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's a.

0:50:57.000 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>No this isn't a priority for me at this point

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:02.120
<v Speaker 1>in time, or no I'm not able to because of this.

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it is okay for you to give some sort

0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:06.640
<v Speaker 1>of justification because going into the heart no is a

0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:09.800
<v Speaker 1>bit overwhelming. And also there's some situations where you can't

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:11.759
<v Speaker 1>just go in for a no, like at work, you

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:14.279
<v Speaker 1>can't just say no. You have to explain why it's

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 1>a no.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to put forward Kates, Laura, we really need

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:20.239
<v Speaker 2>to record the podcast. No, No, it doesn't work, you know.

0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:22.839
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm time poor because my sister's in labor and

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to the hospital.

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>That's setting personal boundaries, you know, that's prioritizing different things

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:30.279
<v Speaker 1>in my life. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and saying

0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 1>yes to everything is what creates this burnout. We talked

0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>about it loads on an episode which was Hustle Culture.

0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 1>But I think that these things really all tie into

0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:40.120
<v Speaker 1>each other. Oh one hundred percent.

0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Look, I actually think I've got a pretty happy medium

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:43.520
<v Speaker 2>with it. I was trying to think of, like, what

0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 2>is my boundary that I need to work on, because

0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:47.280
<v Speaker 2>I do have a lot of really really good, strong

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 2>boundaries in place, But one of them that I am

0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 2>bad at is I will say no to people that

0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:56.080
<v Speaker 2>are not in my close circle. Like if somebody that

0:51:56.120 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 2>i've a friend of a friend has said come to

0:51:57.600 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 2>my party, I'll say no, Like I don't really know,

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:01.359
<v Speaker 2>you don't really have time. I won't say that to them,

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:04.120
<v Speaker 2>but I'm like, hey, I can't if I have probably

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:06.000
<v Speaker 2>like I can count them on two hands. The people

0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:08.719
<v Speaker 2>in my life that I can basically never say no

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:11.200
<v Speaker 2>to Laura could call me at any time of the

0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:13.160
<v Speaker 2>day or night with anything, and I'd be like, she

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:14.319
<v Speaker 2>could call me at one am and be like I

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:16.320
<v Speaker 2>really need a coffee and I'd be like, don't worries,

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:18.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll just go yep, cool, I'll be there in a minute.

0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Like there's people that I would actually never do that

0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:22.480
<v Speaker 2>to you. That's the thing. Don't make it sound like

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 2>I call you one. She doesn't. Could you come up

0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:26.720
<v Speaker 2>here and give me a foot massage? But my point

0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:28.360
<v Speaker 2>is that I don't know if that's a boundary thing

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:30.120
<v Speaker 2>or not. I don't know if that's just because I

0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:31.799
<v Speaker 2>love to love and care for the people that I

0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 2>do have in my circle, so they My point is

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Laura would never ask me to do that, but if

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:37.960
<v Speaker 2>she did, I would do it, That's my point. But

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:40.120
<v Speaker 2>I would be like, sure, I am not doing anything else.

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I will come up. But that's okay, because that's what

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I have said is okay in my life, because I

0:52:45.080 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 2>know in myself I'm happy to I won't resent the person.

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 2>The problem comes when you're saying yes to people and

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 2>doing things for people that you actually don't want to do.

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 2>That's when the resentment comes and that's when the problems come.

0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 2>That's when you need to start with your soft nose.

0:52:57.960 --> 0:52:59.959
<v Speaker 1>And also when we talk about this idea of bound

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and we say that there's like a hard line sand

0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:05.319
<v Speaker 1>and then there's often like a little bit more fluidity

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<v Speaker 1>into it. It also changes in the relationship and also

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:10.560
<v Speaker 1>depends on how long you've been with someone. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt and I have a really healthy relationship where I

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:15.839
<v Speaker 1>think it's really healthy. You know, we fight from time

0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:17.799
<v Speaker 1>to time, like any couple does that, we have our

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:21.520
<v Speaker 1>normal tives. We bicker about normal bickering shit, but overall

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:23.920
<v Speaker 1>our relationship is really great. We love and we trust

0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:25.960
<v Speaker 1>each other, and we have really healthy boundaries, which is

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:28.279
<v Speaker 1>something that I've not had in any past relationship, and

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:31.399
<v Speaker 1>it's something that I'm really like. It makes me really

0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:33.400
<v Speaker 1>feel safe and secure, and I'm really proud of that

0:53:33.440 --> 0:53:36.759
<v Speaker 1>we have this in this relationship. If Matt cheated on me,

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that would one hundred percent be crossing my hard boundary.

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Would I break up with him because of that? No,

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I would work through that. It doesn't mean that the

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:48.120
<v Speaker 1>boundary hasn't been crossed. It doesn't mean that I haven't

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:51.520
<v Speaker 1>been betrayed. But if he showed up to that conversation,

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:55.120
<v Speaker 1>was immensely sorry, was never going to do it again,

0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and we worked through it, worked the drunk as to

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:00.640
<v Speaker 1>why it happened. Then you can over come these It's

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:02.319
<v Speaker 1>not like you have a boundary and as soon as

0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:03.040
<v Speaker 1>someone breaks it.

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:05.239
<v Speaker 2>You're like, fuck you, we are broken up.

0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:07.880
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have to be that, But it is knowing

0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:10.760
<v Speaker 1>that there has to be a consequence when a boundary

0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 1>is broken, right, because if there's no consequence, then what's

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the point in having them.

0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 2>This comes into the next conversation, the next chapter of

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:19.279
<v Speaker 2>this conversation, which is how to set your boundaries. So again,

0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:20.840
<v Speaker 2>like it's easy for us to say have them, but

0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:23.440
<v Speaker 2>how to set them? So the number one thing is

0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:27.759
<v Speaker 2>literally set your boundaries, write down or knowing yourself what

0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:30.399
<v Speaker 2>you will and will not tolerate, what behaviors you will

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 2>accept and you will not accept. And this is your family,

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:35.839
<v Speaker 2>your partner, your friends, the postman, your colleagues, like you

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 2>just have to know. And the second one goes into

0:54:38.120 --> 0:54:40.560
<v Speaker 2>what Laura said, which is, once you know your boundaries,

0:54:40.600 --> 0:54:43.160
<v Speaker 2>you need to decide what the consequences are if someone

0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:46.000
<v Speaker 2>does encroach or break one of these boundaries. And one

0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:48.160
<v Speaker 2>of these rules. So this is going to happen at

0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:50.319
<v Speaker 2>some stage, right, Someone is going to cross the line

0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:53.440
<v Speaker 2>at some stage. If you don't know what your consequence is,

0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:55.600
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be really difficult when you're on the spot,

0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:57.719
<v Speaker 2>and you're probably gonna be biased by that person too,

0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:00.280
<v Speaker 2>especially if it's a partner. You're going to probably probably

0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:02.319
<v Speaker 2>let more slide than you would want to because you

0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:05.160
<v Speaker 2>love them and you have this emotional relationship. So you

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:07.320
<v Speaker 2>need to decide from the get go. Don't get sucked

0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:10.200
<v Speaker 2>in on the spot. Don't tell yourself if he does

0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:12.399
<v Speaker 2>this one more time, I'm leaving. I swear to God

0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:14.399
<v Speaker 2>one more time, only for him to do it again.

0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:16.840
<v Speaker 2>And then you're like, Okay, that's cool, cutie. What do

0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 2>you want for dinner?

0:55:17.640 --> 0:55:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I'll work through it a second time

0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 1>for me, once, for me twice.

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:22.719
<v Speaker 2>It's like Laura, She's like, I would work through it

0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the first time, but you probably know that your boundary

0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:26.200
<v Speaker 2>is if he did that again.

0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, his ass would be on the curve.

0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:31.440
<v Speaker 1>But yeah no, And that's what I mean. You can

0:55:31.520 --> 0:55:33.839
<v Speaker 1>have a behavior or something can be broken once because

0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:36.000
<v Speaker 1>we're human, you know, we all make mistakes. We're all

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna accidentally not the cheating as an accident. You know,

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:40.920
<v Speaker 1>you don't accidentally fall into another human, but you know

0:55:40.920 --> 0:55:41.120
<v Speaker 1>if you.

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Accidentally fall on their dick, Laura didn't mean to. It's

0:55:45.760 --> 0:55:46.719
<v Speaker 2>not that they're accidents.

0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 1>But we all make bad choices at different points in

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:51.359
<v Speaker 1>our life, and we can all put on too much

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:53.640
<v Speaker 1>pressure onto our friends. We can all expect too much

0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:56.560
<v Speaker 1>of other people because we all have the propensity to

0:55:56.600 --> 0:55:59.360
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit selfish at times. But if someone

0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:01.880
<v Speaker 1>is continuous doing it, then you have to figure out

0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:03.719
<v Speaker 1>what your consequences are. And you know that is a

0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:05.759
<v Speaker 1>very clear cut, black and white one. But what if

0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a situation where it's with your friend, for example,

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:11.279
<v Speaker 1>and maybe your friend is just super emotionally draining and

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:14.520
<v Speaker 1>they are constantly coming to you and expecting so much

0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:17.120
<v Speaker 1>of you and your time, and it's a very intense

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:19.839
<v Speaker 1>and all encompassing friendship that you're not getting a lot

0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:22.560
<v Speaker 1>out of anymore, But you feel indebted to say yes

0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to you because you're worried about what impact it would

0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:25.520
<v Speaker 1>have on your friend.

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.040
<v Speaker 2>If it's a long distance relationship, I'm sorry that I've

0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:31.160
<v Speaker 2>been unloaded on you. No this is not you, Ji.

0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 1>If you have a situation with a friend like that,

0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the consequences aren't going to be that you're going to

0:56:35.200 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 1>break up with your friend, but the consequences might be

0:56:37.640 --> 0:56:40.400
<v Speaker 1>that you sit down, you have an open conversation. Honestly,

0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:43.480
<v Speaker 1>conversations are usually the consequence that happens when about it

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:45.760
<v Speaker 1>is being broken. You sit down, you have a conversation,

0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:47.800
<v Speaker 1>and you explain why you're feeling the way you're feeling,

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:50.360
<v Speaker 1>and what you need as a friend in order to

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:52.680
<v Speaker 1>get back to being in a place where you feel comfortable.

0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:55.440
<v Speaker 1>And that could be pushing back, saying no and saying look,

0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:57.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm really sorry, but you're expecting too much

0:56:57.680 --> 0:56:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of me.

0:56:58.280 --> 0:57:00.080
<v Speaker 2>So the next up is just to make sure that

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:02.080
<v Speaker 2>once you set your boundaries, once you know what the

0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:04.360
<v Speaker 2>consequences are, the next thing is to make sure that

0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:07.160
<v Speaker 2>you actually follow through them. Now, even if I'm only

0:57:07.160 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 2>going back to Lauren Matt's example, because it's consistent, it's

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:12.520
<v Speaker 2>just match cheated on her. She's like, cool, I know

0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:14.479
<v Speaker 2>my boundary is that I'll work through that. Matt cheats.

0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:16.520
<v Speaker 2>He on her again. She knows that that was her

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:19.600
<v Speaker 2>hard no boundary, so she needs to follow through that

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:23.200
<v Speaker 2>and leave, so she says it's over. I'm done. Even

0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:24.760
<v Speaker 2>if they then go and work it out at a

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:29.440
<v Speaker 2>later point, he knows that that definitely was the hard no,

0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Like she's I can't walk all over anymore because she

0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I did actually nearly lose her. And I mean, this

0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:35.280
<v Speaker 2>is a bad example, but I'm just trying to say

0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 2>that you one hundred percent need to follow through. You

0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 2>can't put an empty thread out to someone. If you

0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:41.400
<v Speaker 2>do it again, it's done, and then it's not done.

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:43.360
<v Speaker 1>All that does is set a precedent that you can

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:45.400
<v Speaker 1>be walked all over and that you are a doormat.

0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Conversely to that, it is one thing for us to

0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:49.160
<v Speaker 2>say that you do have to have boundaries, but it's

0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:51.640
<v Speaker 2>another thing to say that you still do have to

0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:53.680
<v Speaker 2>be a bit flexible and be able to meet people

0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:55.760
<v Speaker 2>halfway sometimes. And I'm going to give you an example

0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:57.640
<v Speaker 2>of what I mean by this, especially when it's with

0:57:57.720 --> 0:58:01.640
<v Speaker 2>like somebody you love, you might have a boundary, or

0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:05.040
<v Speaker 2>you might say to your partner, I'm very independent. I

0:58:05.080 --> 0:58:08.280
<v Speaker 2>don't need to speak to you every single day. It

0:58:08.320 --> 0:58:10.280
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean I don't love you anymore, but maybe if

0:58:10.320 --> 0:58:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't call you at night, that's okay. It doesn't

0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 2>mean anything. If your partner has been through a really

0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:18.880
<v Speaker 2>traumatic event and they say to you, it's really important

0:58:18.920 --> 0:58:20.800
<v Speaker 2>for me that we check in with each other every night,

0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 2>that's okay to ben that boundary because that's something that

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:25.360
<v Speaker 2>you can meet half way. And why can't you just

0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:27.040
<v Speaker 2>call and check in because you know that it helps

0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 2>your partner. So it's important to be like, if it

0:58:29.600 --> 0:58:31.720
<v Speaker 2>doesn't actually put you out, and you still have to

0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 2>want it, you can't be doing something you don't want.

0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:35.360
<v Speaker 2>If it's not putting you out, to call for five

0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:37.560
<v Speaker 2>minutes and say how are you and check in because

0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:39.439
<v Speaker 2>you know it's going to put your partner at ease,

0:58:39.960 --> 0:58:40.760
<v Speaker 2>then that's okay.

0:58:41.000 --> 0:58:42.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a really funny one, isn't it. Because I think

0:58:42.640 --> 0:58:45.200
<v Speaker 1>one of the like something I struggled with early in

0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:49.560
<v Speaker 1>my relationships was personal space and not personal space for myself,

0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:51.720
<v Speaker 1>but I really struggled with when my partner would want

0:58:51.760 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 1>personal space. I took it as a defense. I took

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:55.880
<v Speaker 1>it that they didn't want to be around me, and.

0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:58.479
<v Speaker 2>Which they didn't. But that's not necessarily bad. That's makes

0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:00.360
<v Speaker 2>some good. But they didn't They want to say one

0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:02.600
<v Speaker 2>of the personal space what personal space is. But it's

0:59:02.640 --> 0:59:04.440
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily negative totally.

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:06.480
<v Speaker 1>But I think it can be offensive and it can

0:59:06.480 --> 0:59:08.720
<v Speaker 1>feel like rejection, but I think it's really.

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<v Speaker 2>Healthy, you know, to have time apart.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess this is something that I navigated in

0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:15.640
<v Speaker 1>a past relationship. But this all came down to personal boundaries.

0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:17.880
<v Speaker 1>One of my exes wanted to have at least one

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<v Speaker 1>night a week where we weren't together, and he made

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<v Speaker 1>a real point of saying this, and I took that

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<v Speaker 1>as a massive rejection. I was like, we usually have

0:59:25.160 --> 0:59:27.560
<v Speaker 1>a night apart anyway, so like, why do you need

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<v Speaker 1>to make a real point of making sure that I

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<v Speaker 1>know that that's something that you need. And so I

0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 1>interpreted it the wrong way. I was also immature. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>own that my reaction to it, my frustration towards him,

0:59:38.720 --> 0:59:41.360
<v Speaker 1>and my own personal hurt towards it, was because one

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I was a bit codependent at that point in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about it loads my own frustrations and pentap anxieties.

0:59:47.280 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I was codependent. I took that as rejection, and I

0:59:50.320 --> 0:59:53.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't understand that he was just exercising an absolute right

0:59:54.040 --> 0:59:55.640
<v Speaker 1>that he has, which is to put in place some

0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:58.280
<v Speaker 1>personal boundaries and say, you know, I need some personal time.

0:59:58.440 --> 0:59:59.800
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like he was saying I need a night

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<v Speaker 1>to mine because I want to go on Tinder and

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<v Speaker 1>hook up with other chicks. He was just like, I

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<v Speaker 1>literally want tonight to myself, to do my washing, to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with my housemates, and to just have a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of me time read a book. But I took

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<v Speaker 1>that poorly, and that wasn't a reflection of him setting boundaries.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a reflection of my inability to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to accept them. So that was my issue.

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<v Speaker 2>There is another quote that I really love to in

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<v Speaker 2>regards to doing things for people that you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to do, and that is that acts of affection and

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<v Speaker 2>interest are only valid if they're performed without expectations. So

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<v Speaker 2>you need to be doing things for people because you

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<v Speaker 2>want to and not because you expect anything else, not

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<v Speaker 2>because you feel like you have to, or you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>it so that they do something back. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that's a really important thing because I used to

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<v Speaker 2>do things in my early relationships purely because I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing back, or I did it because I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted a specific reaction and I had to learn that

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<v Speaker 2>you can't always control people's reactions and what they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to give back. Now, I do things because I want

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<v Speaker 2>to make people happy, not because I want them to

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<v Speaker 2>give me anything back. And I think that that is

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<v Speaker 2>a really, really powerful statement.

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<v Speaker 1>The last thing I want to say on this whole topic,

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<v Speaker 1>and we talked about this a little bit on the

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<v Speaker 1>Anxiety Yet, which is the last episode we did. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>gets easier the more that you exercise it. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're somebody who really struggles with asserting what your boundaries are,

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<v Speaker 1>every single time you flex that muscle just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and then just a little bit more, and every

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<v Speaker 1>time you have those awkward and sometimes confrontational conversations which

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to be confrontational, but they can feel like

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<v Speaker 1>confrontation for someone who really avoids it. Every single time

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<v Speaker 1>you say no, or you put up a boundary or

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<v Speaker 1>you stand up for yourself, which is essentially what having

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<v Speaker 1>a boundary is, you stand up for yourself, you make

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<v Speaker 1>it a little bit easier to do it the next time.

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<v Speaker 1>And you also, by doing that, invest in your own

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<v Speaker 1>self worth, because you're saying by doing that, you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't be treated like this because I'm worthy to

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<v Speaker 1>be treated better than this. So then it's a feed loop.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that person goes, ah, okay, well I'll treat you better.

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<v Speaker 1>So one you're getting more respect from that person, You're

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<v Speaker 1>being treated better by that person, and you feel good

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<v Speaker 1>about yourself because you have stood up for that little

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<v Speaker 1>person inside who deserves to be defended. That is like

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect little round, wholesome what's it called circle of life?

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<v Speaker 1>Of boundaries and self worth?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we've spoken about the connection between self worth and

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<v Speaker 2>setting boundaries and relationships. So we have put a little

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<v Speaker 2>checklist together that have come from some very very intelligent,

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<v Speaker 2>reliable sources, and it's just a checklist to see, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>do you fall into this category A little bit, just

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<v Speaker 2>something for you to really have a little think about yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Difficulties setting and maintaining boundaries due to fear or guilt,

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<v Speaker 2>feeling too apologetic and you're not sure why, excessive neediness

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<v Speaker 2>which I have fallen into before, allowing yourself to be

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<v Speaker 2>put upon or burdened by other people, taking on too

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<v Speaker 2>many responsibilities and feeling resentful about it. We allowing yourself

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<v Speaker 2>to be controlling or be controlled by others. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>really important one the feeling of like you can't stand

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<v Speaker 2>off yourself and you have to do what everyone tolds

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<v Speaker 2>you to do. That's a really important one.

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<v Speaker 1>Another reflection of low self worth, which is one that

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<v Speaker 1>I think is super important, is this idea of being

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<v Speaker 1>orientated around a scarcity or lack in general. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're frightened that you're never going to meet someone, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're focus on a scarcity mindset, then you're more inclined

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<v Speaker 1>to have low self worth because you're like, well, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>put up with this behavior because I'll never find something better.

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<v Speaker 2>Another important one is self sabotage, and I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is a really really big one, staining toxic relationships when

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<v Speaker 2>you know if they are toxic deep down, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and this feeling of emptiness or emotional void and not

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<v Speaker 2>feeling good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you fall into the category of thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you need to do some work on your self

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<v Speaker 1>esteem and on your self worth, I guess the big

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<v Speaker 1>one and the absolute drive home comment from this, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can put this on an Instagram post, you can

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<v Speaker 1>quote it is that your value is not determined by

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<v Speaker 1>what other people think of you, and your self worth

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<v Speaker 1>is not determined by what other people think of you.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to be able.

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<v Speaker 1>To be confident, and it really comes down to self love,

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<v Speaker 1>which sounds a bit woo woo, but it really does.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to be able to love yourself, to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to put yourself first, and to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>protect and respect yourself. That's like the fundamentals to this.

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<v Speaker 2>But how do you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess one of the biggest ways of getting to

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<v Speaker 1>a point where you really fucking love yourself, and not

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<v Speaker 1>in like an Instagram kind of way, but just in

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<v Speaker 1>like real life kind of way is investing in yourself

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<v Speaker 1>doing things like reading a book, working on maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>business idea that you have, doing things that like aren't

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<v Speaker 1>for other people, and at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>the value add that you're going to get back is

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<v Speaker 1>entirely for yourself. None of that is selfish. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>simple thing like going for a run or setting yourself

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<v Speaker 1>a new goal.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, like she Sherry.

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<v Speaker 1>Your sister Britz, said she couldn't run, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>set her goal that she wanted to run a half

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<v Speaker 1>marathonal or whatever it is. But it's like this sense

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<v Speaker 1>of self achievement that comes from setting yourself a goal

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<v Speaker 1>and being able to achieve that. So it's like celebrating

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<v Speaker 1>the small wins for yourself as well, but really trying

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<v Speaker 1>new experiences, pushing yourself outside of your comfort zone and

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<v Speaker 1>doing things solely for yourself is how you invest in

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<v Speaker 1>your self worth totally.

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<v Speaker 2>And another one that's really this seems like a really

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<v Speaker 2>basic and simple one, but it's remembering that no one

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<v Speaker 2>is perfect and everyone makes mistakes. Because a really big

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<v Speaker 2>reason behind you feeling like you're not good enough is

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<v Speaker 2>because you think that everyone else is kicking goals and

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<v Speaker 2>you're not, and that you're the only human in the

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<v Speaker 2>world that can't achieve something or is making a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just really too hard on yourself. So always remember

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<v Speaker 2>any person that you see that you think is kicking goals,

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<v Speaker 2>they have gone through a lot of failures. First. Every

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<v Speaker 2>person that is successful, every person in the world that

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<v Speaker 2>is successful, has failed previously. So don't be so hard

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<v Speaker 2>on yourself. Oh man, I had this the other day

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<v Speaker 2>right put it on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, we had some people coming over to

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<v Speaker 1>do some filming at our house and like Britt will

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<v Speaker 1>attest to this, my house is a freaking bombshell. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it constantly is a fucking mess. I cannot keep it clean.

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<v Speaker 1>We will clean it, It'll be perfect for like five hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and then by the end of the day it's a

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<v Speaker 1>mess again. And I see other people on Instagram and

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<v Speaker 1>I play the comparison game and I see what other

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<v Speaker 1>people's houses look like, and I think I'm so useless,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm embarrassed by our home. And then I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, if I feel like this, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>lots of other people feel like this, and I put

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<v Speaker 1>that on my stories and like the amount of people

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<v Speaker 1>who wrote back to me are the mums who are

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<v Speaker 1>in similar situations with young kids, who are like, girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you, But this was something, and it's so small,

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<v Speaker 1>but it really impacts my feeling of being worthy. Like

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<v Speaker 1>this fact that I can't keep a clean house makes

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<v Speaker 1>me feel really useless and it's something that gets me

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<v Speaker 1>down constantly, and it makes me not want to have

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<v Speaker 1>people over, Like I don't want people to come to

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<v Speaker 1>my house because I'm scared of being judged by them.

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<v Speaker 1>Our producer tried to come over the other day and

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<v Speaker 1>Laura's like, naht my veto, we know you can't come

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<v Speaker 1>to my house. She's like we're not there yet. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not that close to friends. Brick can come over.

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<v Speaker 1>She's sitting in the bedroom right now. That's where we

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<v Speaker 1>are at in our relationship. But it's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get myself worth from cleaning my house. That's not what

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<v Speaker 1>makes me feel good about myself. I have other things

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<v Speaker 1>that really attribute to my self worth and make me

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<v Speaker 1>feel proud of the things that I can do. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think for every single person it's different. Maybe for

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<v Speaker 1>you it is keeping clean house. Maybe that is something

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<v Speaker 1>that really makes you feel like you're kicking some fucking

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<v Speaker 1>goals in your life, and that's great. For me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>spending time with my kids and doing business stuff. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just every single person is different, so you have to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what works for you, But you also have

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out your triggers. What is it that makes

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<v Speaker 1>you feel a bit worthless? What is it that makes

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're not good enough? And then when

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<v Speaker 1>you're experiencing that, acknowledge, Okay, this is something that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have nailed, and maybe the comparison game is making

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<v Speaker 1>me feel bad because other people are good at this,

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<v Speaker 1>but you are not going to be good at everything

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<v Speaker 1>in life. Girlfriend, and it is okay if your house

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<v Speaker 1>is covered in shit, not physical shit, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>very hygienic.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, you know what I mean. But

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<v Speaker 2>just I just want to finish it off by saying

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<v Speaker 2>that probably the most important thing is surrounding yourself with

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<v Speaker 2>good people, being in a good relationship, having good friends

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<v Speaker 2>around you, having good work colleagues around you, and controlling

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<v Speaker 2>what you can change. So, if you know that you're

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<v Speaker 2>keeping people around you that are no good for you,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's your partner. Maybe deep down you know you're

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<v Speaker 2>in this toxic relationship. You can't ever expect a change

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<v Speaker 2>without changing. So the definition of insanity, as we all know,

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<v Speaker 2>is expecting a different outcome but not doing anything different

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<v Speaker 2>along the way. So, if you know there is someone

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<v Speaker 2>in particular, a few people, a group of people, an

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<v Speaker 2>environment that is not good for you, and he's putting

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<v Speaker 2>you down and making you feel shitty, if there is

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<v Speaker 2>an option for you to change that, which I'd be

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<v Speaker 2>very surprised if there's not, then you should look at

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<v Speaker 2>taking that. Okay, guys, you know we never finished an

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<v Speaker 2>episode without our suck and our sweet a highlight, our

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<v Speaker 2>lowlight of the week, and I'm going to kick it off.

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<v Speaker 2>I have two socks this week. That is cheating. They

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<v Speaker 2>happened on the same morning. Yeah, okay, yesterday, two sucks one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a coffee downer. Two sucks you but no, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're dumb sucks, like they're stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, right, it'll be same more. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>same day I woke up in the morning. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>coffee fiend. I love coffee. I've got a little coffee

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<v Speaker 2>machine at home, which I've to be fair, I've probably

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<v Speaker 2>abused it. It broke. I got up one of my

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<v Speaker 2>coffee and it broke, and I was devastated because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not that old. So that was my first suck. It

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<v Speaker 2>probably is under a year. It probably has a warranty,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can't bother to deal with that.

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<v Speaker 1>However, does it come down to the length of time

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<v Speaker 1>or the amount of coffees? Because like, I've had my

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<v Speaker 1>coffee machine for a year and it's been used about

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<v Speaker 1>ten times.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you serious? I find to the cows. Come on now.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like buying coffee. I mean I do that too.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like going to a I like the experience

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<v Speaker 1>of getting a coffee. So I bought a coffee machine

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<v Speaker 1>during COVID, thinking that I would use it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I realized, no, I just like getting coffee from cafe.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I use mine daily anyway. My second sak is,

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<v Speaker 2>if you guys follow me on the gram, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm a bit of whilt. I'm a coffee fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a bit of a plant fiend. Like I love plants.

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<v Speaker 2>I have heaps and plants in my house. And I

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<v Speaker 2>have this beautiful big it was probably too big for

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<v Speaker 2>my apartment, but this beautiful big palm in my lound trip.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a gorgeous plant. What was gorgeous? Oh dear.

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<v Speaker 2>I also have a very very freezing apartment. It's not insulated,

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<v Speaker 2>the windows don't even close properly, and it's so cold.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got a heater. I put the heater on. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't realize the heater was under the farm.

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<v Speaker 2>You know when you're younger and you get those like

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<v Speaker 2>twisty the little chips, and you put them in the

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<v Speaker 2>oven and they shrivel into like a mini packet, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you turn your bird of paradise into a keyp ring. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I did. It like shriveled the whole palm up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hurled in on itself like a little hermit crab,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm devastated because it was I was really expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>but with my pride and joy, it was like the

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<v Speaker 2>best thing I've ever done in my life was keep

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<v Speaker 2>this palm lot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when you know that you're a real adult, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're like pride and enjoy is having plant babies. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>like people walk in and they're like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I love your plants, and it just gives you this

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<v Speaker 1>real sense of like accomplishment. You're like, I know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an adult that has my shit together. Look at my plants.

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<v Speaker 2>I've admitted defeat. I'm old.

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<v Speaker 1>There we well not anymore because you managed to fuck

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<v Speaker 1>this one up. So then that means that you're retaining

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<v Speaker 1>your youth. Only twenty year olds kill their plants, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>what's yours?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? I have one one aage. I'm sticking to the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>So I suck this week is that Marley is still

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<v Speaker 1>not sleeping.

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<v Speaker 2>It's making it's making everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's making everyday jobs very hard, running on like four

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<v Speaker 1>hours sleep, and we have a newborn. I would think

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<v Speaker 1>that the newborn should be responsible for that, But no,

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<v Speaker 1>the toddler doesn't sleep anyway. That's my suck, the lack

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<v Speaker 1>of sleep. I think last night I got up seven

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<v Speaker 1>times in six hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Gross seeing stars. It's so you look good though you

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<v Speaker 2>have kids. Kids are a great idea, like if you

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<v Speaker 2>really want to get to the best contraception for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, No, I think Molly's actually getting her molars, which

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<v Speaker 1>would explain why she's been awake like a million times.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Okay, my.

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<v Speaker 1>Sweet is that my sister is a labor and she

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<v Speaker 1>just messaged me to say that she is getting contractions

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<v Speaker 1>now after her water's broke.

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<v Speaker 2>You better get the hell out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>Today is her due date, so she will be having

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<v Speaker 1>a baby in a few hours, which is great.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna go to them having a baby that is here.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got to get Laura to the hospital so she

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<v Speaker 2>can deliver a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I just want to say thank you to everybody

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<v Speaker 1>who has left a review recently. You guys are amazing

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<v Speaker 1>some of the reviews. I was in tears reading the

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<v Speaker 1>reviews the other day, which sounds I'm hormonal, I'm breast deprivation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot going on, but to know how much

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<v Speaker 1>this podcasts has made an impact in some people's lives

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<v Speaker 1>really means the absolute world to Brittan Night. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as we're here to bring the moles and

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<v Speaker 1>bring the funny stories, we really hope that and we

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate how much you guys appreciate the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>we do a lot of research for these podcast episodes

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we do want to make a difference. So

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<v Speaker 2>when you guys tell us that it does make a

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<v Speaker 2>difference in some way, which we actually got so many

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<v Speaker 2>of you writing after the anxiety episode, which we we

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<v Speaker 2>just loved because that was important to us to do

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<v Speaker 2>that in a really good way, in an effective way

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<v Speaker 1>That was weird that jump onto the Instagram which is

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