Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast.
Speaker 3: All right, Cabby Monday cutie piece. Today we're chatting about
Speaker 3: restaurants to deny saving you food. It's odd. I don't
Speaker 3: want to say it's a trend. We've seen it on
Speaker 3: one account and I'm hoping we won't make it to two.
Speaker 2: Here we go. This is Flex and Frooms on Kaita,
Speaker 2: Miss Frumeni.
Speaker 3: Can you tell me if you've ever ever ever, in
Speaker 3: your whole entire life and in your experience of dining
Speaker 3: out extensively, if you've been too a restaurant that's denied
Speaker 3: you ordering more food, not because the kitchen is closed,
Speaker 3: not because it is too late, not because there's like
Speaker 3: a cap, just like you try to order food and
Speaker 3: they've said no.
Speaker 2: Go home.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to rack my brain for this experience. And truly,
Speaker 3: unless the kitchen is closing or the item isn't in
Speaker 3: season or in stock or a veil, totally understand. But
Speaker 3: apparently there are other examples that fall outside of this range.
Speaker 3: Here's a TikTok from creator Super Daisy Drinks.
Speaker 4: So we went to this like Turkish, Greek restaurant in
Speaker 4: Inverness where we were staying. There's four of us, so
Speaker 4: two of us decide to get like actual mains, and
Speaker 4: then the other two decide that they want to like
Speaker 4: share a mes platter as they're like food, so you know,
Speaker 4: doma spaniccopita, hummus. So the way it comes over, it
Speaker 4: takes our orders and at the end of it, he's
Speaker 4: like that's all right, and we're like, yep, that's all
Speaker 4: we're ordering, and he's like okay, because like that's all right,
Speaker 4: and in our head we're like, yeah, we know, it
Speaker 4: doesn't seem like a lot of food, but like that's
Speaker 4: all we're ordering. Also, this waiter is very clearly the
Speaker 4: owner of the restaurant, like he's dressed differently. He's an
Speaker 4: older gentleman. We're eating our food, we're having a great time.
Speaker 4: And then my two friends who had the mes platter
Speaker 4: are still hungry and they really like the homeless and
Speaker 4: the span of copadas, so they decide that they want
Speaker 4: to order another order of that. So the way it
Speaker 4: comes over and they ask, oh, can we order another
Speaker 4: order of homeless and another order of spanic copita. You would
Speaker 4: have thought that we just asked the owner of this
Speaker 4: restaurant to bend I'm.
Speaker 2: In space for us.
Speaker 4: He's like, impossible, no way, I'm so sorry, I can't
Speaker 4: do it. And then he's like, this is exactly why
Speaker 4: I asked you if this was everything you wanted, And
Speaker 4: he was like, well, that's why I asked at the beginning.
Speaker 4: You have to order everything at once?
Speaker 3: I mean, but why so I checked the comments because
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, am I just like is this a cultural
Speaker 3: thing that I'm unaware of? Because we don't want to
Speaker 3: be culturally incentitive. So that he was in Greece, I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, maybe it's a cultural thing. Went to
Speaker 3: the comments. They were like, oh, so everyone's scared of chefs,
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what country you're from.
Speaker 2: I said, do chefs hold that much the owner?
Speaker 3: The owner is scared of the chef because when you
Speaker 3: think about the logistics, and I'm not sure a lot
Speaker 3: of people think about how their food is actually made
Speaker 3: back the never never. I know there are a lot
Speaker 3: of like chain rasturants in Sydney that do frozen food
Speaker 3: and just reheat it like Rahas in Sydney does that.
Speaker 3: The guy who owns it is always on TikTok, and
Speaker 3: he's like, you know people won't show you this.
Speaker 2: This is the reality.
Speaker 3: You think we can make match pritatoes scratch one serving,
Speaker 3: now it's frozen.
Speaker 2: Thank you for that, Thank you King.
Speaker 3: Realistically, let's say you're gonna order some spotic cappata. You
Speaker 3: can't just order your one serving. He's gonna make some
Speaker 3: more fresh.
Speaker 5: Just likes to roll all of it again because now
Speaker 5: I get what the chef is saying, but also like,
Speaker 5: can you really have a restaurant that isn't tailoring people
Speaker 5: needing to eat more than you anticipated?
Speaker 2: It is your owner's losing.
Speaker 3: Out on on real revenue because he's scared that his
Speaker 3: chef is gonna have the shit. I need to know
Speaker 3: if this has happened in Australia, please, because I think
Speaker 3: the cultural context from here will help us know whether
Speaker 3: this is like deranged or quite normal. I also feel
Speaker 3: as though I had this experience in Ghana quite a
Speaker 3: bit when I took my best friend there, who is Australian.
Speaker 2: We went to a lot of just.
Speaker 3: Restaurants, like to suss it out, and I guess we're
Speaker 3: in a touristy area, so a lot of these restaurants
Speaker 3: were offering like western food, right, so pizza, pasta, chips, whatever.
Speaker 2: Perhaps an egg.
Speaker 3: I'm getting to the Sorry, this is where I'm getting
Speaker 3: your intuition's popping. So basically, we walk into this cafe,
Speaker 3: she's like, here's the menu. What would you guys like,
Speaker 3: We're like, okay, could we please get like a miggle
Speaker 3: rang with egg on top.
Speaker 2: She was like, okay, cool. This chick is like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be back. I'm gonna go buy an egg.
Speaker 3: So she leaves the store, goes to the communitient store
Speaker 3: or the grocery next door to buy a single egg
Speaker 3: to come back and cook it for the migorin because
Speaker 3: they're not gonna keep stock there. That's gonna go to
Speaker 3: waste if no one's gonna eat in the restaurant. But
Speaker 3: the majority of restaurants you'll go to, especially in our
Speaker 3: crow and like that tourism area, the menus are honestly
Speaker 3: just guidelines and suggestions because nine times out of ten
Speaker 3: they won't have anything that's on the menu.
Speaker 2: It'll get to the point where you have to ask
Speaker 2: what do you.
Speaker 3: Have and they'll say, hmmm, well we've got maybe some chicken,
Speaker 3: breast and like we could probably.
Speaker 2: Do Like, that's what you're that's what you're working with.
Speaker 1: It's essentially a seasonal experience.
Speaker 2: It's farm to table, it's farm to table.
Speaker 3: Does your phone battery affect your dd uber ride share price?
Speaker 3: That is the question we're answering today on flex and rooms.
Speaker 3: I want to start by saying this is just speculation.
Speaker 3: It is potentially a rumor. I'm going to put in
Speaker 3: all sorts of allegedly, and I understand what defamation is.
Speaker 3: So people have raised to the Internet to speculate about
Speaker 3: this claim. Many have shared their own personal experiences with it.
Speaker 3: As Thrumy says, it's conjecture. We is a correlation, causation, whatever.
Speaker 3: And the reason why it started is because one person
Speaker 3: took to Twitter with a photo of two phones and said,
Speaker 3: oh my goodness, they're both going to the same place
Speaker 3: at the same time. Why is one so much more
Speaker 3: expensive than the other. Somebody quote tweeted and said, the
Speaker 3: phone on the left has lower battery than the phone
Speaker 3: on the right. Bolt Uber dd other ride share services
Speaker 3: do this, and they raise their prices relative to your
Speaker 3: battery level in brackets. Yes, they can do that, and
Speaker 3: they do now I can be quite naive to what
Speaker 3: corporations will do to make a quick buck. It's quite
Speaker 3: genius if you think about it. In the crisis, search
Speaker 3: it please, because we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Pay it right anyway.
Speaker 3: So then a bunch of different platforms and articles and
Speaker 3: whatever did their own experiments and conclude that it's not
Speaker 3: actually true, and they don't know why that happened in
Speaker 3: that instance, but the rumors started here. We are also
Speaker 3: further in there's no rumor. But Uber did come out
Speaker 3: and say that it doesn't take into consideration the phone's
Speaker 3: battery level to determine or calculate the price of a trip,
Speaker 3: and the dynamic pricing applied to trips booked via Uber
Speaker 3: is determined by the existing demand for rides and the
Speaker 3: supply of drivers who can respond to it. So like
Speaker 3: search pricing is apply demand whatever whatever whatever.
Speaker 2: Now that they know though the people are speculating, it's
Speaker 2: just do it.
Speaker 1: I say, so, this is hundred percent plotile deniability.
Speaker 2: And if you happen to go to court, will defend you.
Speaker 1: Last week I came on air with a simple PSA
Speaker 1: and that was that I'm seeing the term partner be
Speaker 1: thrown about. I refer to this in a romantic capacity.
Speaker 1: So you have a boyfriend, girlfriend, someone with whom you
Speaker 1: are romantically intertwinked into.
Speaker 2: No, you got it, okay?
Speaker 1: And I noticed that when I'm having quite a few
Speaker 1: conversations with my straight brethren, they are referring to their
Speaker 1: boyfriend or girlfriend as partner. And I have then been thinking,
Speaker 1: are they part of the LGBTQI community giving them the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt, of course, And I'm wondering is
Speaker 1: there some cloud associated with that? Perhaps some of us
Speaker 1: have been guilty of arel on the line of will
Speaker 1: they won't they? And really playing into that.
Speaker 2: For the social life.
Speaker 1: Perhaps someone was saying in the comments for social cloud,
Speaker 1: not my words, and we got some really hectic are
Speaker 1: they hectic?
Speaker 2: No, very passioned, very impassioned responses.
Speaker 3: It is fair to say say that, of course, the
Speaker 3: video was a snippet of a longer conversation which we
Speaker 3: did discuss that some people use the term partner because
Speaker 3: I think that boyfriend and girlfriend is perhaps a bit
Speaker 3: juvenile for their demographic and their age.
Speaker 2: Or to be inclusive, or to use more like appropriate language.
Speaker 3: We heard all of that definitely threw that in the
Speaker 3: conversation and decided to discard.
Speaker 2: It in favor of what threw me was saying.
Speaker 1: I hate and unfortunately you asked me to follow up
Speaker 1: is making me start because I am.
Speaker 2: I hate. I hate having to repeat myself. Guys.
Speaker 3: What I will say though, as but an observer for
Speaker 3: that conversation, I was a member of the audience for
Speaker 3: that one I played, and I was happy to be there.
Speaker 3: You can find the video on Frooms's Instagram f R
Speaker 3: Triple Es. And what I will say is that I
Speaker 3: was very surprised by how many straight people were very
Speaker 3: defensive about their use of partner and also the lengths
Speaker 3: people were going to and the paragraphs they were writing
Speaker 3: to try and justify it. We've talked about many a
Speaker 3: serious topic on this show, and I can't imagine a
Speaker 3: more ludicrous, humorous video than the one that we posted,
Speaker 3: and yet people were still so defensive. But I think
Speaker 3: the point stands, which not good or bad behavior, yes,
Speaker 3: but it's good to be aware of what you think
Speaker 3: you're doing when you're making the conscious choice to use
Speaker 3: ambiguous language describes something that as quite clear and like.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I also feel like I have skin in the
Speaker 1: game to say this because I'm definitely I have definitely
Speaker 1: been guilty of the partner troll.
Speaker 2: That's how you know, I see your community.
Speaker 1: I must say I did it when I was younger.
Speaker 1: I've since grown and as I said, always in the
Speaker 1: market for a part Oh.
Speaker 2: Oh there it is, there it is. But as we said,
Speaker 2: will they won't they? Could she be part of the umbrella?
Speaker 3: What I will say as a representative of the audience,
Speaker 3: I do have a feeling that for me will take
Speaker 3: this back in due time. I feel like we should
Speaker 3: give out our king space to express herself. But I
Speaker 3: do you think this is one of those things that
Speaker 3: give it about three to six months and some and
Speaker 3: some time, some time in the battlefield, and she'll come
Speaker 3: to know that partner is the only word that we
Speaker 3: all have.
Speaker 2: Mickey, any thoughts.
Speaker 1: You can call your boyfriend, your significant other, your man toy,
Speaker 1: whatever you want, man toy.
Speaker 2: You know there's no hate, only love me.
Speaker 1: What are you calling.
Speaker 2: Josh, Josh Josh?
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Imagine she says she's bab with names, and I think
Speaker 3: it's a cop out until she does things like this.
Speaker 2: I'm team boyfriend. Yeah, Micky, I'll never call him partner.
Speaker 2: That's because me and Micky are the same time. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Still waiting for the day that I can actually call
Speaker 1: him six so Micky can just take my place and.
Speaker 2: That'll be the last day you come in radio. Froo
Speaker 2: men tho through me boo, mmmy les Mom.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Flex and rooms on cater drumroll police
Speaker 1: Flex climate change. Yeah, it's the time that I came
Speaker 1: back and brought it up to the table.
Speaker 3: Climate change data and spooky and people aren't really talking
Speaker 3: about it as much as they should. Like, it's getting
Speaker 3: worse everyone almost weekly. Yeah, this is what I like.
Speaker 3: And I know you're getting bored of hearing it doomsday clock,
Speaker 3: ice caps melting, but like it's actually it's detrimental.
Speaker 1: So let's have to think about the law of acceleration
Speaker 1: really quickly. Yeah, I think we talked about this last week.
Speaker 1: There is a concept in AI. This will get back
Speaker 1: to the climate crisis, but just to make it to
Speaker 1: be more interesting. In AI, there's a thing called the
Speaker 1: law of acceleration. What that means is we make one
Speaker 1: bar of progress, and then another bar is added, and
Speaker 1: as each bar is added, the bars become bigger and faster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for multiple it doesn't add it compounds.
Speaker 1: Compound interests the whole other topic we should talk about
Speaker 1: as women in stem. So essentially, I'm pretty sure climate
Speaker 1: change is the same thing, like one little effect.
Speaker 3: The canoe tipping theory is a good one for climate change.
Speaker 2: You've heard of that one.
Speaker 1: The same as the trigger in the law of acceleration
Speaker 1: with AI, which is that once it hits the level
Speaker 1: of human intelligence exponentially in a way that we could
Speaker 1: never comprehend. I saw a news article the other day
Speaker 1: that China had recorded a temperature of fifty two point.
Speaker 2: Two, which is insane, never before seen. It's like, it's
Speaker 2: very worrying and cold.
Speaker 1: Breaking, and it got me thinking, like I swear about
Speaker 1: a year ago or maybe.
Speaker 2: Less, all the people in Extension.
Speaker 1: Rebellion, Extinction Rebellion, Thanks Queen were throwing the soup and
Speaker 1: stuff at the paintings, also not damaging the paintings because
Speaker 1: they have a little tiny perspects box against them. Where's
Speaker 1: that energy gone?
Speaker 2: They got arrested. I mean like if I had, if
Speaker 2: I had less lose getting up.
Speaker 3: And happened, I feel like someone I'm in the room
Speaker 3: definitely needs to do something about this. Definitely comes back
Speaker 3: to the fact that, as you said, or as we're
Speaker 3: trying to infert, it can't be one, two, three, ten
Speaker 3: people trying to do change for everyone. It's a considered
Speaker 3: community effort. But I often think that what needs to
Speaker 3: happen is too much for the individual to comprehend. And
Speaker 3: also I think that we do a very good job
Speaker 3: of neutralizing extremes in our society.
Speaker 2: We do what we can.
Speaker 3: To make everything feel normal so we don't feel too uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: So Lockdown was a great example of that. It was
Speaker 3: the most absurd thing when it first got announced, and
Speaker 3: then by week one we're policing each other because we
Speaker 3: want to feel comfortable with our reality. So the sooner
Speaker 3: that we assimilate and the sooner that we just get
Speaker 3: on with it, the better we'll feel, and that's usually
Speaker 3: the priority.
Speaker 1: I also think that, like you say about comfort, we
Speaker 1: don't like thinking about death, and it's nice to just think,
Speaker 1: oh my god, today I'm going to eat Nando's, Like
Speaker 1: that's going to be what I'm thinking about, not the
Speaker 1: fact that like looking at climate change is essentially looking
Speaker 1: at all of our morality, which is that even if
Speaker 1: that does happen, we're not going to die anyway, which
Speaker 1: perhaps is like hopeful. I think the Barbie Movie's got
Speaker 1: to my head. I was driving the other day along
Speaker 1: so Thomas Mitchell Road, if you're familiar, and I was
Speaker 1: at the lights. I was in the right lane looking
Speaker 1: at about seven cars in front of me. I had
Speaker 1: this moment of lucidity where I was like, are the
Speaker 1: people in front of me people or cars? Like? Am
Speaker 1: I seeing these cars as disembodied vehicles or am I
Speaker 1: seeing the people inside? And I thought, you know, I
Speaker 1: have been prone in the past to road rage just
Speaker 1: comes naturally.
Speaker 3: Really, actually, I'm very surprising. I'm always surprised when people
Speaker 3: express anger. I think it's like, so cool, you're in
Speaker 3: touch with your emotions like that. Well, yeah, for a
Speaker 3: long time I was ringing back road. No, it's like
Speaker 3: an inability to emotionally regulate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's probably where it comes out. So I'm
Speaker 1: really trying to work on that. But I realized I
Speaker 1: really don't think of the people that are inside the cars.
Speaker 1: I literally judge you like. I noticed this because I
Speaker 1: saw someone in the car that I drive, and I
Speaker 1: automatically thought there'd be a certain type of person.
Speaker 2: But then I'm like, wait, that's me. Wait so okay.
Speaker 1: So I was like, this is a grandma car, like
Speaker 1: a sporty grandma and I was like, wait, but that's me.
Speaker 2: It was a moment of depersonalization, lucidity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's odd to your point, though, I often think
Speaker 3: about the people in cars, but to avoid interacting with them.
Speaker 3: Like one of my least favorite car feelings is when
Speaker 3: someone's driving right next to me.
Speaker 2: One of us needs to please wear some water.
Speaker 3: When you catch the one looking at you when you're
Speaker 3: behind them and you catch their eye in their mirror
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't if you can actually see me,
Speaker 3: but stop that, or like when you're both out of
Speaker 3: light and then you can tell someone's looking at you
Speaker 3: and my widows are down, the windows are coming up. Please,
Speaker 3: this is a safe space. I'm in my private chamber.
Speaker 3: Why are you trying to interact?
Speaker 2: So yeah, when I was, I definitely caused his attention.
Speaker 1: Oh, windows down, like positioning the angle the angle of
Speaker 1: my tune certain way so as to be the most snatched.
Speaker 2: I got over that I'm not talking to you.
Speaker 3: I'm so grateful that you would share this so candidly
Speaker 3: on National Radio.
Speaker 2: You are a brave woman, and it's thankless you've been
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