WEBVTT - Are Chefs 👩‍🍳 Intimidating? 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:03.440 Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:05.960 This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:11.080 All right, Cabby Monday cutie piece. Today we're chatting about 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:14.160 restaurants to deny saving you food. It's odd. I don't 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:15.520 want to say it's a trend. We've seen it on 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:17.680 one account and I'm hoping we won't make it to two. 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:21.480 Here we go. This is Flex and Frooms on Kaita, 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:22.280 Miss Frumeni. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.079 Can you tell me if you've ever ever ever, in 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:26.360 your whole entire life and in your experience of dining 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.040 out extensively, if you've been too a restaurant that's denied 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.080 you ordering more food, not because the kitchen is closed, 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:37.320 not because it is too late, not because there's like 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.320 a cap, just like you try to order food and 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:41.680 they've said no. 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:44.720 Go home. 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:46.880 No. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.760 I'm trying to rack my brain for this experience. And truly, 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.840 unless the kitchen is closing or the item isn't in 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:57.160 season or in stock or a veil, totally understand. But 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:01.280 apparently there are other examples that fall outside of this range. 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.120 Here's a TikTok from creator Super Daisy Drinks. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.400 So we went to this like Turkish, Greek restaurant in 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.960 Inverness where we were staying. There's four of us, so 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.399 two of us decide to get like actual mains, and 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.399 then the other two decide that they want to like 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.600 share a mes platter as they're like food, so you know, 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:21.160 doma spaniccopita, hummus. So the way it comes over, it 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:22.880 takes our orders and at the end of it, he's 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:26.280 like that's all right, and we're like, yep, that's all 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:30.440 we're ordering, and he's like okay, because like that's all right, 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.200 and in our head we're like, yeah, we know, it 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.000 doesn't seem like a lot of food, but like that's 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.640 all we're ordering. Also, this waiter is very clearly the 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.520 owner of the restaurant, like he's dressed differently. He's an 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.160 older gentleman. We're eating our food, we're having a great time. 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.040 And then my two friends who had the mes platter 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.080 are still hungry and they really like the homeless and 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:48.800 the span of copadas, so they decide that they want 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:50.840 to order another order of that. So the way it 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.120 comes over and they ask, oh, can we order another 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.760 order of homeless and another order of spanic copita. You would 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:58.800 have thought that we just asked the owner of this 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:00.360 restaurant to bend I'm. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:01.000 In space for us. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.280 He's like, impossible, no way, I'm so sorry, I can't 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.720 do it. And then he's like, this is exactly why 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:08.960 I asked you if this was everything you wanted, And 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:10.799 he was like, well, that's why I asked at the beginning. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:12.240 You have to order everything at once? 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:18.720 I mean, but why so I checked the comments because 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.079 I'm thinking, am I just like is this a cultural 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:22.600 thing that I'm unaware of? Because we don't want to 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.640 be culturally incentitive. So that he was in Greece, I 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:26.960 was like, okay, maybe it's a cultural thing. Went to 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.120 the comments. They were like, oh, so everyone's scared of chefs, 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:30.399 doesn't matter what country you're from. 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:34.560 I said, do chefs hold that much the owner? 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.680 The owner is scared of the chef because when you 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:39.280 think about the logistics, and I'm not sure a lot 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.240 of people think about how their food is actually made 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.480 back the never never. I know there are a lot 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.800 of like chain rasturants in Sydney that do frozen food 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.760 and just reheat it like Rahas in Sydney does that. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:51.840 The guy who owns it is always on TikTok, and 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:53.440 he's like, you know people won't show you this. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:54.000 This is the reality. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.320 You think we can make match pritatoes scratch one serving, 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:57.160 now it's frozen. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:58.799 Thank you for that, Thank you King. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:04.240 Realistically, let's say you're gonna order some spotic cappata. You 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.360 can't just order your one serving. He's gonna make some 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:07.519 more fresh. 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:13.799 Just likes to roll all of it again because now 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.520 I get what the chef is saying, but also like, 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.440 can you really have a restaurant that isn't tailoring people 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.280 needing to eat more than you anticipated? 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.000 It is your owner's losing. 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.200 Out on on real revenue because he's scared that his 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.239 chef is gonna have the shit. I need to know 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.880 if this has happened in Australia, please, because I think 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.640 the cultural context from here will help us know whether 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.760 this is like deranged or quite normal. I also feel 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:41.640 as though I had this experience in Ghana quite a 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.000 bit when I took my best friend there, who is Australian. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:46.600 We went to a lot of just. 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.680 Restaurants, like to suss it out, and I guess we're 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.760 in a touristy area, so a lot of these restaurants 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:58.240 were offering like western food, right, so pizza, pasta, chips, whatever. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:03:58.840 Perhaps an egg. 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.200 I'm getting to the Sorry, this is where I'm getting 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.920 your intuition's popping. So basically, we walk into this cafe, 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.080 she's like, here's the menu. What would you guys like, 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.760 We're like, okay, could we please get like a miggle 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.000 rang with egg on top. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.320 She was like, okay, cool. This chick is like, okay, 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:16.880 I'm gonna be back. I'm gonna go buy an egg. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:21.440 So she leaves the store, goes to the communitient store 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.240 or the grocery next door to buy a single egg 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.839 to come back and cook it for the migorin because 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.680 they're not gonna keep stock there. That's gonna go to 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.279 waste if no one's gonna eat in the restaurant. But 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.480 the majority of restaurants you'll go to, especially in our 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:38.040 crow and like that tourism area, the menus are honestly 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.640 just guidelines and suggestions because nine times out of ten 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.880 they won't have anything that's on the menu. 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:45.520 It'll get to the point where you have to ask 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:46.040 what do you. 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:50.120 Have and they'll say, hmmm, well we've got maybe some chicken, 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.479 breast and like we could probably. 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.200 Do Like, that's what you're that's what you're working with. 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.640 It's essentially a seasonal experience. 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:59.799 It's farm to table, it's farm to table. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:09.640 Does your phone battery affect your dd uber ride share price? 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.440 That is the question we're answering today on flex and rooms. 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.720 I want to start by saying this is just speculation. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.359 It is potentially a rumor. I'm going to put in 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.279 all sorts of allegedly, and I understand what defamation is. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.320 So people have raised to the Internet to speculate about 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:29.080 this claim. Many have shared their own personal experiences with it. 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:34.440 As Thrumy says, it's conjecture. We is a correlation, causation, whatever. 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.800 And the reason why it started is because one person 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.880 took to Twitter with a photo of two phones and said, 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:41.960 oh my goodness, they're both going to the same place 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.839 at the same time. Why is one so much more 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.039 expensive than the other. Somebody quote tweeted and said, the 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:50.840 phone on the left has lower battery than the phone 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:54.480 on the right. Bolt Uber dd other ride share services 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.360 do this, and they raise their prices relative to your 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.440 battery level in brackets. Yes, they can do that, and 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.960 they do now I can be quite naive to what 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.600 corporations will do to make a quick buck. It's quite 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.960 genius if you think about it. In the crisis, search 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:10.840 it please, because we're gonna. 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.480 Pay it right anyway. 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.320 So then a bunch of different platforms and articles and 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.120 whatever did their own experiments and conclude that it's not 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.039 actually true, and they don't know why that happened in 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:24.320 that instance, but the rumors started here. We are also 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:28.760 further in there's no rumor. But Uber did come out 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:33.279 and say that it doesn't take into consideration the phone's 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.880 battery level to determine or calculate the price of a trip, 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:39.000 and the dynamic pricing applied to trips booked via Uber 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.200 is determined by the existing demand for rides and the 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.160 supply of drivers who can respond to it. So like 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.680 search pricing is apply demand whatever whatever whatever. 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.960 Now that they know though the people are speculating, it's 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:49.360 just do it. 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:53.880 I say, so, this is hundred percent plotile deniability. 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.240 And if you happen to go to court, will defend you. 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:05.320 Last week I came on air with a simple PSA 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.640 and that was that I'm seeing the term partner be 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:13.480 thrown about. I refer to this in a romantic capacity. 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.680 So you have a boyfriend, girlfriend, someone with whom you 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.360 are romantically intertwinked into. 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:21.640 No, you got it, okay? 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.320 And I noticed that when I'm having quite a few 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:28.880 conversations with my straight brethren, they are referring to their 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:32.760 boyfriend or girlfriend as partner. And I have then been thinking, 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.440 are they part of the LGBTQI community giving them the 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.800 benefit of the doubt, of course, And I'm wondering is 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.080 there some cloud associated with that? Perhaps some of us 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.280 have been guilty of arel on the line of will 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.800 they won't they? And really playing into that. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.040 For the social life. 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.880 Perhaps someone was saying in the comments for social cloud, 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:55.440 not my words, and we got some really hectic are 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:55.960 they hectic? 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.240 No, very passioned, very impassioned responses. 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.200 It is fair to say say that, of course, the 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.480 video was a snippet of a longer conversation which we 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.800 did discuss that some people use the term partner because 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.840 I think that boyfriend and girlfriend is perhaps a bit 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.400 juvenile for their demographic and their age. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:14.960 Or to be inclusive, or to use more like appropriate language. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.640 We heard all of that definitely threw that in the 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.080 conversation and decided to discard. 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.880 It in favor of what threw me was saying. 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.040 I hate and unfortunately you asked me to follow up 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:27.800 is making me start because I am. 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.240 I hate. I hate having to repeat myself. Guys. 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.440 What I will say though, as but an observer for 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.400 that conversation, I was a member of the audience for 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.680 that one I played, and I was happy to be there. 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.439 You can find the video on Frooms's Instagram f R 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:46.720 Triple Es. And what I will say is that I 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:51.880 was very surprised by how many straight people were very 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:55.880 defensive about their use of partner and also the lengths 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.440 people were going to and the paragraphs they were writing 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.760 to try and justify it. We've talked about many a 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.720 serious topic on this show, and I can't imagine a 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:09.840 more ludicrous, humorous video than the one that we posted, 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.800 and yet people were still so defensive. But I think 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.640 the point stands, which not good or bad behavior, yes, 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:18.360 but it's good to be aware of what you think 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.559 you're doing when you're making the conscious choice to use 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:25.920 ambiguous language describes something that as quite clear and like. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:27.800 Honestly, I also feel like I have skin in the 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.560 game to say this because I'm definitely I have definitely 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.319 been guilty of the partner troll. 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.280 That's how you know, I see your community. 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.000 I must say I did it when I was younger. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.920 I've since grown and as I said, always in the 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:40.680 market for a part Oh. 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.720 Oh there it is, there it is. But as we said, 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.200 will they won't they? Could she be part of the umbrella? 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.560 What I will say as a representative of the audience, 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.080 I do have a feeling that for me will take 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.199 this back in due time. I feel like we should 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.840 give out our king space to express herself. But I 0:09:59.880 --> 0:10:01.120 do you think this is one of those things that 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.240 give it about three to six months and some and 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:07.480 some time, some time in the battlefield, and she'll come 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.600 to know that partner is the only word that we 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:10.080 all have. 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:11.680 Mickey, any thoughts. 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:16.560 You can call your boyfriend, your significant other, your man toy, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.000 whatever you want, man toy. 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.280 You know there's no hate, only love me. 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:25.600 What are you calling. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.920 Josh, Josh Josh? 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:28.400 Oh my god. 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:33.240 Imagine she says she's bab with names, and I think 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:34.920 it's a cop out until she does things like this. 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:39.960 I'm team boyfriend. Yeah, Micky, I'll never call him partner. 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.080 That's because me and Micky are the same time. So yeah, 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:42.760 it's crazy. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:44.640 Still waiting for the day that I can actually call 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.319 him six so Micky can just take my place and. 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:54.520 That'll be the last day you come in radio. Froo 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.720 men tho through me boo, mmmy les Mom. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:04.600 You're listening to Flex and rooms on cater drumroll police 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:10.000 Flex climate change. Yeah, it's the time that I came 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:11.840 back and brought it up to the table. 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.760 Climate change data and spooky and people aren't really talking 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:17.400 about it as much as they should. Like, it's getting 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:21.400 worse everyone almost weekly. Yeah, this is what I like. 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:23.760 And I know you're getting bored of hearing it doomsday clock, 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:28.400 ice caps melting, but like it's actually it's detrimental. 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:30.479 So let's have to think about the law of acceleration 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.720 really quickly. Yeah, I think we talked about this last week. 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.760 There is a concept in AI. This will get back 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.199 to the climate crisis, but just to make it to 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.719 be more interesting. In AI, there's a thing called the 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:44.560 law of acceleration. What that means is we make one 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:48.560 bar of progress, and then another bar is added, and 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:53.080 as each bar is added, the bars become bigger and faster. 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:57.920 Yeah, for multiple it doesn't add it compounds. 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.800 Compound interests the whole other topic we should talk about 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.400 as women in stem. So essentially, I'm pretty sure climate 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.600 change is the same thing, like one little effect. 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.839 The canoe tipping theory is a good one for climate change. 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:10.640 You've heard of that one. 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.080 The same as the trigger in the law of acceleration 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.760 with AI, which is that once it hits the level 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.959 of human intelligence exponentially in a way that we could 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.160 never comprehend. I saw a news article the other day 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:25.839 that China had recorded a temperature of fifty two point. 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:29.960 Two, which is insane, never before seen. It's like, it's 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:31.200 very worrying and cold. 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.640 Breaking, and it got me thinking, like I swear about 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.439 a year ago or maybe. 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.920 Less, all the people in Extension. 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:43.600 Rebellion, Extinction Rebellion, Thanks Queen were throwing the soup and 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.320 stuff at the paintings, also not damaging the paintings because 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.959 they have a little tiny perspects box against them. Where's 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:49.680 that energy gone? 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:55.240 They got arrested. I mean like if I had, if 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.280 I had less lose getting up. 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.560 And happened, I feel like someone I'm in the room 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.720 definitely needs to do something about this. Definitely comes back 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.040 to the fact that, as you said, or as we're 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:09.000 trying to infert, it can't be one, two, three, ten 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:14.280 people trying to do change for everyone. It's a considered 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:18.760 community effort. But I often think that what needs to 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:23.760 happen is too much for the individual to comprehend. And 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.240 also I think that we do a very good job 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.439 of neutralizing extremes in our society. 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.560 We do what we can. 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:36.160 To make everything feel normal so we don't feel too uncomfortable. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.840 So Lockdown was a great example of that. It was 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.360 the most absurd thing when it first got announced, and 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.480 then by week one we're policing each other because we 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.240 want to feel comfortable with our reality. So the sooner 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.880 that we assimilate and the sooner that we just get 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.360 on with it, the better we'll feel, and that's usually 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:53.080 the priority. 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:58.240 I also think that, like you say about comfort, we 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:02.120 don't like thinking about death, and it's nice to just think, 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:03.960 oh my god, today I'm going to eat Nando's, Like 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.080 that's going to be what I'm thinking about, not the 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:11.360 fact that like looking at climate change is essentially looking 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:14.240 at all of our morality, which is that even if 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.040 that does happen, we're not going to die anyway, which 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.480 perhaps is like hopeful. I think the Barbie Movie's got 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:24.920 to my head. I was driving the other day along 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:29.960 so Thomas Mitchell Road, if you're familiar, and I was 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.240 at the lights. I was in the right lane looking 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.400 at about seven cars in front of me. I had 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.320 this moment of lucidity where I was like, are the 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.440 people in front of me people or cars? Like? Am 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:44.080 I seeing these cars as disembodied vehicles or am I 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.000 seeing the people inside? And I thought, you know, I 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.720 have been prone in the past to road rage just 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:50.440 comes naturally. 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:56.200 Really, actually, I'm very surprising. I'm always surprised when people 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.120 express anger. I think it's like, so cool, you're in 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.320 touch with your emotions like that. Well, yeah, for a 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.680 long time I was ringing back road. No, it's like 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.600 an inability to emotionally regulate. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.360 Yeah, and that's probably where it comes out. So I'm 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:15.400 really trying to work on that. But I realized I 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.480 really don't think of the people that are inside the cars. 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.400 I literally judge you like. I noticed this because I 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.800 saw someone in the car that I drive, and I 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:25.720 automatically thought there'd be a certain type of person. 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.720 But then I'm like, wait, that's me. Wait so okay. 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.560 So I was like, this is a grandma car, like 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.800 a sporty grandma and I was like, wait, but that's me. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:38.320 It was a moment of depersonalization, lucidity. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.080 Yeah, that's odd to your point, though, I often think 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:45.120 about the people in cars, but to avoid interacting with them. 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.040 Like one of my least favorite car feelings is when 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.000 someone's driving right next to me. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.200 One of us needs to please wear some water. 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.400 When you catch the one looking at you when you're 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.320 behind them and you catch their eye in their mirror 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:00.880 and I'm like, I don't if you can actually see me, 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.720 but stop that, or like when you're both out of 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.240 light and then you can tell someone's looking at you 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.440 and my widows are down, the windows are coming up. Please, 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.880 this is a safe space. I'm in my private chamber. 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:13.400 Why are you trying to interact? 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.520 So yeah, when I was, I definitely caused his attention. 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.400 Oh, windows down, like positioning the angle the angle of 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.880 my tune certain way so as to be the most snatched. 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.480 I got over that I'm not talking to you. 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.400 I'm so grateful that you would share this so candidly 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:30.040 on National Radio. 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:34.560 You are a brave woman, and it's thankless you've been 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.800 listening to The Flex and Froom's daily podcast. 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.680 For more, tune Indicator on DAB or stream it on iHeartRadio.