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Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line is the Opposition leader,

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Speaker 1: Leah Finocchiaro.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Leah, Good morning Katie, and to your listeners. Leah.

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Speaker 1: I have been advised by the Chief Minister's office that

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Speaker 1: they have written a letter to you or to your

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Speaker 1: office saying that they are going to suspend those standing

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Speaker 1: orders on Tuesday. Have you received that letter?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I received a very short letter back from the

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Speaker 2: Chief Minister this morning in response to my letter to her,

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Speaker 2: saying that the Opposition would be bringing this debate on

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Speaker 2: the ten am Tuesday, and that we will also be

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Speaker 2: seeking for that debate to be debated fully with no

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Speaker 2: time constraint. Unfortunately, the letter I received back does not

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Speaker 2: confirm that the debate will go on until everyone has

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Speaker 2: had an opportunity to speak. It just says it will

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Speaker 2: be debated in full, which could just mean the full

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Speaker 2: sixteen minutes under the rules. So we want to go

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Speaker 2: back and seek clarification around that. We believe this debate

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Speaker 2: should be a full, exhaustive debate of every member of

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Speaker 2: Parliament that wants to speak, and so we're still unclear

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Speaker 2: on that detail. But we're very pleased to see that

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Speaker 2: the government have finally been drag kicking and screaming Katie

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Speaker 2: to have this debate at ten am Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know they have. I'm not going to argue

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Speaker 1: with that, but I too am really pleased that this

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Speaker 1: is going to happen. It's the will of the people,

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Speaker 1: it is what people want. Twenty six thousand people have

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Speaker 1: signed that petition. I know that there could be people

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Speaker 1: from interstate that have signed that petition. They could be

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Speaker 1: from overseas some of them for all I know. But

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Speaker 1: I also know that there's a lot of territory instead

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Speaker 1: have signed that petition. So I think that it is

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Speaker 1: incredibly important that that debate does happen. Leah, when are

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Speaker 1: you going to know? Do you think whether it will

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Speaker 1: be able to be debated in full or whether it's

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Speaker 1: going to be the full sixteen minutes?

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Speaker 2: Well, hopefully I can get that clarification today. But clearly

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Speaker 2: pressure is working, and so I encourage you to pile

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Speaker 2: on to your label local member, email them, ring their

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Speaker 2: office and say this has got to be done properly.

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Speaker 2: Don't let them get off the hook. They've been so

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Speaker 2: tricky and sly about this. I mean, poor Samara Lavity

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Speaker 2: has had to just book flights not even knowing when

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Speaker 2: it was going to be. Why is it had to

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Speaker 2: come to this point. So whilst I'm glad they're seeing reason,

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Speaker 2: it's not been without enormous pressure from the community, from Samara,

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Speaker 2: the opposition, the media, and we've still got work to

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Speaker 2: do to ensure that this is bigger than a sixteen

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Speaker 2: minute debate. But at least your listeners now know if

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Speaker 2: you want to tune in, it's live on the Legislative

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Speaker 2: Assembly website. You can watch it or come into Parliament,

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Speaker 2: sit in the galleries and hear what the government is

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Speaker 2: going to say, hear what the opposition and independent members

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Speaker 2: want to say.

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Speaker 1: Now Leah, So that'll be Tuesday morning from ten o'clock

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Speaker 1: and hopefully well here, hopefully you'll hear as to whether

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Speaker 1: it's going to go for longer than sixteen minutes. Please

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Speaker 1: let us know once you do know, and we'll ensure

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Speaker 1: that our listeners are aware. But I do want to

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Speaker 1: ask you announcement this morning of course, that the new

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Speaker 1: Police Commissioner, Michael Murphy, he's not only the Police Commissioner

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Speaker 1: but also the CEO for Fire and Emergency Services. Are

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Speaker 1: you pleased with this announcement?

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Speaker 2: I think it's a really good announcement. Michael has been

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Speaker 2: a long term Territory cop. I think the rank and

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Speaker 2: file are really going to respond to his leadership and

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of healing that needs to be done

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Speaker 2: within the police force. So I congratulate Michael on becoming

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Speaker 2: our new Police Commissioner. He has an enormous job ahead

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Speaker 2: of him, but it's an important role and it requires

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Speaker 2: that strength of leadership that he has and I'm really

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Speaker 2: looking forward to working with him into the future.

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Speaker 1: Now, the other part of this announcement, and we'll probably

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Speaker 1: talk to you further about this next week, but the

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Speaker 1: other part of this announcement is a bit more detail

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Speaker 1: on the review. And we'd obviously spoken to the Minister

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Speaker 1: for Police, Fire an Emergence Services, Kate Warden, earlier this

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Speaker 1: morning and had previously spoken to her about this review,

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Speaker 1: but we do now have some further detail what the

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Speaker 1: review is going to focus on. We also know that

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Speaker 1: the former Northern Territory Police Association president and officer Vince Kelly,

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Speaker 1: is going to lead that review. Is that a good move?

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Speaker 2: Well go, I'm glad that the review is finally being announced.

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Speaker 2: I'm very concerned around transparency in terms of what happens

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Speaker 2: at the end of the review.

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Speaker 1: They've said they're going to make it public.

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Speaker 2: They have confed confirmed that.

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Speaker 1: She confirmed that to me this morning, so I'll take

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Speaker 1: her on her word. She did say on air this

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Speaker 1: morning that yes, it will be made public, so I

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Speaker 1: hope it bloody hope they do.

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Speaker 2: It does and did she say when, Katie Well, in.

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Speaker 1: The press release it says that it is going to

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Speaker 1: that it's going to be complete at the end of

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Speaker 1: March twenty twenty four, so.

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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see when the government actually released

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Speaker 2: it to the public. When government receive it, should release

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Speaker 2: it immediately. This is something we've been in Parliament on

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Speaker 2: seven different occasions, Katie calling for a well overdue review

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Speaker 2: into police resourcing, health and well being morale. Our attrition

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Speaker 2: rate is at levels that are just totally unacceptable and unsustainable.

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Speaker 2: So again a government drag kicking and screaming to something

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Speaker 2: it should have willingly done for the better health of

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Speaker 2: our force and to help with supporting our community to

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Speaker 2: drive down crime. And yet again they've been pushed and

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Speaker 2: pushed and pushed over a number of years to do

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Speaker 2: what the government should just do if they were a

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Speaker 2: good government. But good news is happening. I'm still a

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Speaker 2: little skeptical, but we will see. Time will tell.

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Speaker 1: We most certainly will well. Leah, I appreciate you having

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Speaker 1: a quick chat to us this morning on very short notes.

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Speaker 1: Please let us know when you do get some further

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Speaker 1: detail about the duration of that debate.

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Speaker 2: I will here be the first person I tell Katie

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Speaker 2: and I.

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Speaker 1: Will tell the territory.

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Speaker 2: You tell the world.

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Speaker 1: You need good stuff. Thanks later, I appreciate it. Thank you,