Speaker 1: Hi, guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.
Speaker 1: I'm Laura and I'm Brittany.
Speaker 2: Hi Brittany, how are you? Laura?
Speaker 3: Bloody?
Speaker 2: Great, babe? How are you? I'm great?
Speaker 1: But why didn't you just jump on in and tell
Speaker 1: the guys what we've got coming up today? We have
Speaker 1: a very special episode. And I know I say that
Speaker 1: every week, but this one is extra jazzy. I actually
Speaker 1: love that you say that everywhere extra jazzy. We have
Speaker 1: a guest coming on today. Her name is Karina Irby
Speaker 1: and she is a social media Instagram sensation. She's also
Speaker 1: an incredible boss woman. She started her own company, She's
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, and she is going to be talking us
Speaker 1: through her life and all of the things. She's also
Speaker 1: just a great, bloody person. Isn't she a legend to
Speaker 1: speak to? Yeah, it's an amazing chat. So we do
Speaker 1: have that coming up. But before we get into that,
Speaker 1: what's been happening Laura? What have you done this week?
Speaker 2: I saw some friends. It was really nice.
Speaker 1: Other than me, I believe it or not, Bernie, there
Speaker 1: are other people in my life.
Speaker 2: Not many, but there are.
Speaker 1: I actually don't don't believe that this cloud of isolation
Speaker 1: is lifted. I saw some girlfriends. I went for some
Speaker 1: nice coastal walks with them. We had a barbecue, of course,
Speaker 1: we like had a very small barbecue. Don't worry, guys,
Speaker 1: but within limits, within we stuck to all of the parameters.
Speaker 1: But it just really felt so nice to have this
Speaker 1: feeling of normalcy. And then also it was such a
Speaker 1: beautiful sunny weekend here in Bondai. So yeah, I had
Speaker 1: such a nice weekend.
Speaker 2: I knew well.
Speaker 1: I tried to go out to dinner with some friends
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, we need to
Speaker 1: just get together and do something.
Speaker 2: We tried to go out.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many restaurants we call to
Speaker 1: try and get in, and it's just nuts. I think
Speaker 1: there must just be cues of months for people because
Speaker 1: they're still taking limited seats. It was only ten people,
Speaker 1: so everywhere it's just there's waiting lists.
Speaker 2: We ended up just having a really nice night. We
Speaker 2: stayed in.
Speaker 1: So I haven't felt what you felt yet about being
Speaker 1: back out a normal well.
Speaker 2: I didn't go out anywhere. I just had people around
Speaker 2: my house. It was that's what I did.
Speaker 1: They came to my house, so we did the same thing,
Speaker 1: then okay, okay, But I think like when feeling like
Speaker 1: you're going out and doing stuff when you're a mum
Speaker 1: is just literally having a couple of people over to
Speaker 1: your house and you're like, oh my god, this is wild.
Speaker 2: But do you know what we did.
Speaker 1: We were very different points in our life. We all
Speaker 1: dressed up like we dressed up like we were going
Speaker 1: out because.
Speaker 2: I think we all needed to pick me up.
Speaker 1: You know, when you're slobbing around for months in your
Speaker 1: active web on, you don't brush your hair, you say months,
Speaker 1: that's been the last eleven months of my life.
Speaker 2: It's pretty cute.
Speaker 1: We put on we all like literally we fake ten
Speaker 1: do We put makeup on when my friends came over,
Speaker 1: like looking saucy af knee high boots and we're like.
Speaker 2: Ready to go out.
Speaker 1: And then we just sat in my land room, had
Speaker 1: wines or to take away, had ice cream, and we
Speaker 1: actually had the best no I've had in a long time.
Speaker 2: So there was a lot of effort that went into that.
Speaker 1: You lost me at knee high boots were pants on
Speaker 1: when my friends came around.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 1: Well, guys, before we get into the actual episode, we
Speaker 1: just wanted to touch on a couple of things that
Speaker 1: have been happening, one of them being that we put
Speaker 1: a photo up on our Instagram page of Courtney Kardashian
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that most of you know of or
Speaker 1: have seen that photo. And if you haven't, go have
Speaker 1: a look at Life Uncut podcast. Now, there's this photo
Speaker 1: that Kney Kardashian put up recently and it has been
Speaker 1: extremely digitally altered, so she's photoshopped the photo and it's
Speaker 1: caused a lot of conversation around one Is it okay
Speaker 1: to photoshop too? Can you call someone out for photoshopping?
Speaker 1: And what is okay? I mean, we see everybody in
Speaker 1: the public eye everyone uses photoshop. We almost can't deny that. Now,
Speaker 1: it's so rare to have somebody that doesn't. But the
Speaker 1: Kardashians are very well known for it.
Speaker 2: It's almost strange to watch.
Speaker 1: They'll put a photo out that's photoshopped and people will
Speaker 1: call them on it, and they don't even get embarrassed.
Speaker 1: They're just like laugh at it, and it's like so
Speaker 1: normal to them that they're like, oh, like, I'll just
Speaker 1: delete it and put another on them. I think that
Speaker 1: the Kardashians especially this photo of Courtney. I actually think
Speaker 1: that they put out heavily doctored images, like heavily photoshopped images,
Speaker 1: with the intention of creating conversation. Because look, we have
Speaker 1: a podcast, we're.
Speaker 2: Talking about it right now.
Speaker 1: The image that we're specifically talking about today, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a self looks like a selfie, but Courtney looks
Speaker 1: like a completely different person in it. Her She's obviously
Speaker 1: used face tuned to change the shape of her jaw,
Speaker 1: She's changed the shape of her nose, she's changed the
Speaker 1: shape of her eyes.
Speaker 2: And it's not.
Speaker 1: About whether or not we think that plastic surgery is
Speaker 1: okay or whether we think that phyllis is okay. This
Speaker 1: conversation is specifically about whether or not we think doctoring
Speaker 1: images on social media is okay. And I honestly think
Speaker 1: that they do this with the intention to cause this
Speaker 1: sort of conversation and to create traffic to go to
Speaker 1: their Instagram, for people to look at that photo, and
Speaker 1: it drives their numbers up. It's tactical, it's strategic. We
Speaker 1: have said before absolutely have nothing against injectibles, cosmetic surgery,
Speaker 1: or whatever you want to do. We are actually we're
Speaker 1: here for if it's gonna make you feel and it's
Speaker 1: something you want to change, your body's your body. The
Speaker 1: only thing we want to talk about now is the
Speaker 1: fact that people like this with one hundred two hundred
Speaker 1: million followers, they're so influential to today's youth, and they're
Speaker 1: putting out this idea that every day you wake up
Speaker 1: in the morning, you're cooking breakfast and you're looking immaculate,
Speaker 1: you are looking absolutely perfect. And that's our newer generation
Speaker 1: coming through thinking that they have to maintain these standards.
Speaker 1: And then before we know it, every single Joe Blow
Speaker 1: is photoshopping every single photo on a daily basis.
Speaker 2: It's not even like it used to be.
Speaker 1: Laura with magazines that used to photoshop for editorials that
Speaker 1: we almost let slip because we're like, oh, it's a
Speaker 1: high end editorial. We let them do what they have
Speaker 1: to do. But now it's like Laura and I were
Speaker 1: talking this morning, and Laura's saying, it's every sixteen year
Speaker 1: old that's altering their photos because we think that we
Speaker 1: have to maintain this certain level. And the thing that
Speaker 1: caused so much uproar with this one particular photo, if
Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, go and have a look. I
Speaker 1: actually love Chloe Kardashian. I think she's funny. I think
Speaker 1: she's a boss business lady. But she photoshopped at the
Speaker 1: photo to the point that her necklace half a necklace
Speaker 1: had been like photoshopped out of the picture, that is
Speaker 1: how heavily it had been photoshopped. I just don't think
Speaker 1: it's setting a good example of well, I think just
Speaker 1: what you touched on in regards to how it used
Speaker 1: to be only magazines that would photoshop images, and we
Speaker 1: all recognize and there was big conversations around it ten
Speaker 1: years ago, how damaging it was that magazines would photoshop
Speaker 1: these images of models. Now it's accessible to everyone. Everyone
Speaker 1: can use phase tune, and everyone can make structural changes
Speaker 1: to their face very very easily with a little swipe
Speaker 1: of their finger. And I think what that does is
Speaker 1: it commodifies on people's insecurities. It says, if you don't
Speaker 1: like this thing about yourself that's not perfect in quotation marks,
Speaker 1: then you can change that. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: instead of saying and liberating that everyone is beautiful in
Speaker 1: all of their many diverse differences, it sets this one
Speaker 1: precedent and it's like this is what's normal, this is
Speaker 1: what's beautiful, and you will have to fit this mold.
Speaker 1: And I think that that is what's really damaging. I
Speaker 1: genuinely think people who have a huge social media following,
Speaker 1: people who are in the public eye, people who are
Speaker 1: role models, have a heightened responsibility to be inclusive and
Speaker 1: to set a good example. And you know, I know
Speaker 1: that the Kardashians cop a massive flak, but their brand
Speaker 1: is based on a certain image. That conversation always comes
Speaker 1: back down to photoshopping and filtering and whether or not
Speaker 1: it's acceptable. It's such an interesting conversation that kind of
Speaker 1: leads us into our guests for today. But before we
Speaker 1: introduce Karina, we just want to do a little bit
Speaker 1: of Accidentally Unfiltered because we love it, because it's my
Speaker 1: favorite part of the episode. And also that was really
Speaker 1: heavy and I think we need to like lighten it
Speaker 1: up a bit.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, So what have you got from me today?
Speaker 1: All right, guys, so you know that I Accidentally Unfiltered
Speaker 1: is you write in your most embarrassing stories and we
Speaker 1: read them out for everybody to laugh at you, mainly
Speaker 1: as honestly, we get such good feedback from this section
Speaker 1: of the podcast, like, I love this. This is my
Speaker 1: absolute favorite. So guys, thanks for the lolls.
Speaker 2: What do we say? Loll shoot me in the face.
Speaker 2: I have just rubbed off on you.
Speaker 1: Disgusting. I love that for me, I hate myself. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. So this one came in the other
Speaker 1: week from one of our listeners, and I freaking love this.
Speaker 1: It's like it's wholesome. It's wholesome, but it's great. Actually,
Speaker 1: the wholesome ones are the best ones. I went over
Speaker 1: to this guy's house I had been talking to for
Speaker 1: a while. He lives with his parents, and I went
Speaker 1: over there pretty late, so his parents were in bed
Speaker 1: and I never met or saw them. We stayed downstairs
Speaker 1: on the lounge and we watched a movie. I had
Speaker 1: every intention of going home that night until I.
Speaker 2: Woke up There. We all do.
Speaker 1: Until I woke up at six am with the lights
Speaker 1: streaming through the windows. Yeah, we've all been there. I
Speaker 1: realized I had fallen asleep, and then the guy had
Speaker 1: just left me on the lounge and he'd gone to bed.
Speaker 1: I was stressing big time. What if his parents come
Speaker 1: downstairs and there's just a stranger sleeping on the couch
Speaker 1: She's like, Okay, what if I go upstairs and try
Speaker 1: and find his bedroom.
Speaker 2: No, that's a terrible idea.
Speaker 1: What if I opened the wrong door and it turns
Speaker 1: out to be his parents' room. So I just decided
Speaker 1: I was going to bail as quietly as possible. I
Speaker 1: gather my things, I opened the front door. Then the fucking.
Speaker 2: House alarm starts blaring at six am in the morning.
Speaker 2: I just ran.
Speaker 1: I ran in shock to my car and I could
Speaker 1: see his parents behind me, running down the stairs and
Speaker 1: their pajamas. I got in the car and I gunned
Speaker 1: it down the street, only to realize he lived in
Speaker 1: a culder sack.
Speaker 2: So she had to turn around.
Speaker 1: So I had to do a three point turn and
Speaker 1: then awkwardly drive back past his house, where the alarm
Speaker 1: was still blaring and his parents were out the front
Speaker 1: now screaming at my car.
Speaker 2: They definitely thought I was robbing them. Anyway.
Speaker 1: I ended up dating the guy for a few months,
Speaker 1: so it was pretty awkward. The next time I met
Speaker 1: his parents.
Speaker 2: I have some new questions.
Speaker 1: I pictured the the parents running down the street with
Speaker 1: like baseball bats in there pajama's like, but also, if
Speaker 1: you have someone to your house and you know that
Speaker 1: your house has an alarm.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's something you need to talk about.
Speaker 2: Water set up? What an absolute sit? Yeah? Yeah that was?
Speaker 2: You got done? All right? Have you got me an
Speaker 2: accidently unfiltered?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You want another one? I want another one.
Speaker 1: I actually have a really wholesome one as well. What
Speaker 1: happened to all the sex and the farting and the
Speaker 1: vomiting and the bath tid? I think we had to
Speaker 1: take a break, fellow, Yeah, I think so too. This
Speaker 1: one is so cute because it made me. It took
Speaker 1: me back to my childhood. Okay, stay with me. This morning,
Speaker 1: this literally came in last night. I'm going to tell you, Laura,
Speaker 1: this came in last night at five pm yesterday, and
Speaker 1: it happened yesterday.
Speaker 2: I love that people.
Speaker 1: Have embarrassing shit that happens to them, and straight away
Speaker 1: the first thing they think is, oh, I'm going a
Speaker 1: message that to life on cart They will love this. Okay, ready,
Speaker 1: So this morning I meant to send a photo of
Speaker 1: my worm in medicine to my mum, asking.
Speaker 2: If it's the right brand.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm twenty six and this is my life. What
Speaker 1: a moment in time guys. I sent it to the
Speaker 1: guy I'm seeing by accident. I literally send him a
Speaker 1: picture of my worm and tablets and said, is this
Speaker 1: the right one?
Speaker 2: My cover up? Ha ha ha oh Yearly worm in time?
Speaker 2: Did your parents make you do this too when you
Speaker 2: were little? Oh? Godfraid?
Speaker 1: She said, She's send in a photo. So she's twenty
Speaker 1: six and she's got worms. I have a question anyway, Well,
Speaker 1: how does that happen? Maybe she works in like childcare dat.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but she's sent in the photo I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put. I'm gonna ask you if I can put
Speaker 1: on our story so you.
Speaker 2: Guys can see.
Speaker 1: It's literally the worming tablet that you take. He wrote
Speaker 1: back and said what's it for? And she just left
Speaker 1: it blank.
Speaker 2: I had to say to it, I said, I feel.
Speaker 1: I love that she's like she says to it, she says, oh,
Speaker 1: my parents still make me do this, Yearly like or whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I just tried to like throw it under that, because
Speaker 1: you know how gross that she's twenty six that, yeah,
Speaker 1: my parents still make me worm my butt. I was like,
Speaker 1: are you still seeing him? Because she was supposed to
Speaker 1: be up with him. She's like, well, it only happen
Speaker 1: this morning.
Speaker 2: Give it time. I'm not sure. Accidentally unfiltered. They don't
Speaker 2: need to be grossy. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: they do. I'm ready for some dirty sex ones. Guys,
Speaker 2: come back at me. It's been a while.
Speaker 1: What should we jump on in to our special guest? Yes,
Speaker 1: a time to bring on Carina. Do we have sound effects?
Speaker 2: Babe? When you start doing the editing, we'll bring in
Speaker 2: some sound effects. Okay, okay, Well that's just that.
Speaker 1: Today on the show, we have the absolute powerhouse little
Speaker 1: woman that is Karina Irbie. She is the boss lady
Speaker 1: that owns Mowana Bikini and Bikini Bodyburn. She is the
Speaker 1: woman that is paving the way for a more real, raw,
Speaker 1: unfiltered social media. She's changing the way we look at
Speaker 1: our bodies. And with an Instagram audience of one point
Speaker 1: one million, we think she's just the kind of influence
Speaker 1: we need. Karna, Welcome to life on cuta y.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: How are we Oh, we're so good and it's actually
Speaker 1: such a pleasure to have you on. We have both
Speaker 1: been following your Instagram for so long and when we
Speaker 1: tossing up people who we wanted to have on the show.
Speaker 1: You were very top of the list, so this is
Speaker 1: an absolute tree.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys.
Speaker 1: I would like to say I actually reached out to you,
Speaker 1: and Laura reached out to you, and you didn't get
Speaker 1: back to me, and you got back to Laura.
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to take it personally.
Speaker 3: I know how rudeminded, but like.
Speaker 1: You obviously have your favorite whatever. So I guess we
Speaker 1: just want to say, straight up, how are you and
Speaker 1: how has IO life been for you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fantastic, I'm really really good. ISO has been.
Speaker 3: I mean, yep, crazy time. I haven't really been personally
Speaker 3: affected by it too much. I'm quite a loner, love
Speaker 3: my alone time as it is, so my personal lifestyle
Speaker 3: hasn't really been affected or changed much at all. And
Speaker 3: regarding our work live, that's changed a little bit, but
Speaker 3: mainly for good. We've been so crazy busy at the
Speaker 3: morn HQ. We have had to do a little bit
Speaker 3: of social distancing, which means less dance parties and cuddles,
Speaker 3: but we have had a lot more time online withoutline community,
Speaker 3: and it's actually been really fun getting to know people
Speaker 3: on a more deeper level.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. That's actually so nice to hear a positive
Speaker 2: spin on it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that there's been so much negativity
Speaker 1: around the whole situation. Everyone so quick to talk about
Speaker 1: what anxieties it's driving and like how badly some businesses
Speaker 1: have been affected. But there have also been some businesses
Speaker 1: that it's just it's done wonderful things for. So I'm
Speaker 1: so glad to hear that you are on that side
Speaker 1: of the coin.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, I just think that, you know, you
Speaker 3: do need to try and see the positive in situations,
Speaker 3: and yeah, that's just what I try and do on
Speaker 3: the daily. So I'll keep running with that.
Speaker 1: Well, let's get into let's get into the question. So
Speaker 1: starting at the beginning, you grew up in Port mcquarie.
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about your childhood.
Speaker 3: Yep, grew up in Port McCrary. Actually mainly grew up
Speaker 3: in a small little surfay town called Lake Catai, which
Speaker 3: is about ten minutes out of Port McCrary. Not a
Speaker 3: whole lot goes on there but surf, and that was
Speaker 3: all I really cared about growing up. I was a
Speaker 3: little teenage surfer girl. Yeah. My parents divorced when I
Speaker 3: was about twelve. I grew up with my dad and yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean moved up to the Gold Coast to study
Speaker 3: at university. And I can't say I've ever really looked back.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm grew up in Lighthouse Beach.
Speaker 3: Yeah I know. I do vaguely actually remember seeing you
Speaker 3: around because do you have crazy blue eyes? Right?
Speaker 1: I guess having a moment.
Speaker 3: I feel like I used to see you and I
Speaker 3: used to think, well, look at that girl's dark hair
Speaker 3: and really blue eyes, like she's so pretty.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I mean that's okay, we can finish the
Speaker 2: interview here.
Speaker 1: No, So I have a sister, she's a few younger
Speaker 1: than me, and we went to Tacking Point Primary School
Speaker 1: and you were in the year between both of us.
Speaker 2: So I think it's a crazy world. Just thought i'd
Speaker 2: throw that in there.
Speaker 3: It's a small world, it's crazy. I completely agree with you.
Speaker 1: What we want to know is this upbringing in like
Speaker 1: Catti port mcurey surfing.
Speaker 2: I know exactly what it's like.
Speaker 1: But is that do you think that influenced you to
Speaker 1: start your company Mowana Bikini.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I mean I always had a passion for swimwear,
Speaker 3: being that like surfing was my life, and obviously I
Speaker 3: don't you know, you guys might have heard that I
Speaker 3: was struggling a lot with exma growing up, and I
Speaker 3: did get bullied a lot for that, and you know,
Speaker 3: when I was wanting to go surfing, a lot of
Speaker 3: the time, I did wear a full length wetsuit because
Speaker 3: I was embarrassed and I didn't want people to see
Speaker 3: my legs because I was getting called like all sorts
Speaker 3: of names. You know, people were making out that I
Speaker 3: was contagious and I had a disease and that I
Speaker 3: was you know, scabby legs, and it was really tough,
Speaker 3: like kids and teenagers can be so cruel, and yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that one of the main reasons, well, I
Speaker 3: know one of the main reasons I started more on
Speaker 3: I was because I said to myself when I got
Speaker 3: into my early twenties that I didn't want to be
Speaker 3: that person anymore. And I did want to be a
Speaker 3: breath of fresh air for other girls that would definitely
Speaker 3: be dealing with the same things that I'm dealing with,
Speaker 3: Like I know that I'm not alone in this big
Speaker 3: wide world. And if I just started a swimwear company
Speaker 3: because I want to wear bikinis, like I want to
Speaker 3: want to wear bikinis, And you know, if I start
Speaker 3: a brand and I completely embody what I want to embody,
Speaker 3: maybe other people will appreciate it and follow the journey
Speaker 3: with me, and together we can support each other. And
Speaker 3: that's really how the passion's kicked off.
Speaker 1: Listening to you say that, I'm not even lying, I
Speaker 1: just got goosebumps and I felt so empowered because I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: like you're the person that you're the person that women need.
Speaker 1: You don't realize how much things affect you and how
Speaker 1: much body image and people can be self conscious even
Speaker 1: though they're the most beautiful humans. And I just think
Speaker 1: someone like you that's obviously so inspirational putting out there
Speaker 1: what I guess society.
Speaker 2: Sees as a fault.
Speaker 1: It's not, obviously, but you're very about you know, you
Speaker 1: have x meras of skin condition and I've seeing your
Speaker 1: pictures and you happily show it when it's the absolute worst,
Speaker 1: and I just love that you're showing that you can
Speaker 1: still be beautiful, you can own your body. And hats
Speaker 1: off to you because I'm empowered right now.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I do love to hear that.
Speaker 3: I wish I could have been a bit more like
Speaker 3: this when I was a young teenager, but I got
Speaker 3: there in the end.
Speaker 1: I think it's a true testament as well to the
Speaker 1: fact that Instagram and people who are using social media
Speaker 1: now are craving authenticity and how there's been a shift
Speaker 1: in that. You know, it's no longer about the perfectly
Speaker 1: curated feed or the perfectly beautiful photo. It's about this
Speaker 1: engagement and feeling like you're part of a community. I
Speaker 1: guess what I'm really interested in is it seems to
Speaker 1: be the common thought that someone who has a big
Speaker 1: influence of following and has a huge community can easily
Speaker 1: start a business because you have one point one million followers,
Speaker 1: it seems like it could be so easy for you
Speaker 1: to then start your Moana Bikini. But actually it was
Speaker 1: kind of the flip side of that. You started Moana
Speaker 1: and then that's when the followers came. So talk me
Speaker 1: through that, and talk me through how you were able
Speaker 1: to grow that following and what that journey has been
Speaker 1: like for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so true. I never intended to even be
Speaker 3: a personality on Instagram, Like, I didn't even see that
Speaker 3: as an opportunity. When Instagram came out, I didn't even
Speaker 3: want to be on Instagram. I like put it off
Speaker 3: as so I was like, oh no, I don't want
Speaker 3: to Uh. It was all about Molana. Molana was my life.
Speaker 3: I put that on Facebook. We grew it organically on Facebook.
Speaker 3: Instagram came in and naturally just jumped on that because
Speaker 3: you know, business and getting the word out there. And yeah,
Speaker 3: Molana had I think it was like two hundred K
Speaker 3: at the time, and I actually just reposted a picture
Speaker 3: of myself wearing Molana for no other reason then. I
Speaker 3: just wanted to show off the bikini. And in one
Speaker 3: of the posts I was I did have a bit
Speaker 3: of XMA. I didn't address it or anything like that,
Speaker 3: and followers just started trickling over to my page. And
Speaker 3: I did get a little bit of weird bullying at
Speaker 3: the start, mainly because I didn't address the actual, you know,
Speaker 3: condition that was on my skin. But I also got
Speaker 3: a lot of people that were like, oh, hey, what's
Speaker 3: going on with your skin because you look like me?
Speaker 3: And I think that's just kind of what kicked it off.
Speaker 3: And gradually I got more confident and started to post
Speaker 3: I guess the real version of myself online.
Speaker 1: It's crazy that you just said I put a photof
Speaker 1: of myself and I didn't address the exma. It sucks
Speaker 1: that we're in a world where you have to address
Speaker 1: something like that anyway. It's literally just a photo of you,
Speaker 1: and I think that that's I guess that's what you're
Speaker 1: trying to change, is to normalize it, because that shouldn't
Speaker 1: even be a sentence. Absolutely, we had been groomed to
Speaker 1: see perfection on Instagram. We had been groomed to see
Speaker 1: people face tune and smooth out their skin. So to
Speaker 1: see someone post something and be like, hey, what's going
Speaker 1: on here? There is a level of curiosity. But then
Speaker 1: there is this like alignment instead of going like, oh okay,
Speaker 1: this person is going through the same thing as me,
Speaker 1: and there's there's power in that. There's power in that
Speaker 1: community as well. So, I mean, I think that's a
Speaker 1: testament to why your followers kind of trickled over from
Speaker 1: it being like very product and brand based to being
Speaker 1: your like they're your advocates now they're your community of girls.
Speaker 1: Something I really wanted to ask you about, which is
Speaker 1: about Mawana specifically, when you do your campaigns you have
Speaker 1: these amazing photo shoots where you include women from all
Speaker 1: different walks of life, all different body sizes, and you
Speaker 1: do these call outs I guess on social media where
Speaker 1: you're like, come on, get in a pair of bikinis
Speaker 1: and let's do this. What was it that made you
Speaker 1: want to do that and have that level of inclusivity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my god. So they're caught out Molana Army
Speaker 3: beach metops and they're so much fun. They're just such
Speaker 3: a crazy day. Even just thinking about it, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 3: how do we do this? I always it was no
Speaker 3: question or doubt in my mind that I wanted to
Speaker 3: do that, and not a whole lot of thinking really
Speaker 3: went into it. I was just like, hey, we need
Speaker 3: to get all our customers down here, because how much
Speaker 3: fun would that be? And I feel like that stems
Speaker 3: from why I started Marianna in the first place, which
Speaker 3: was making other people feel good about themselves. So we can,
Speaker 3: you know, do our struggles and learn to grow together.
Speaker 3: And being together in a community is so powerful and fun.
Speaker 3: And like we had girls down there that had actually
Speaker 3: never won a bikini before and they're physically in tears, Like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I can't believe I have a bikini on,
Speaker 3: you know, like I'm thirty four, I've never worn one,
Speaker 3: and there's like three hundred plus women they're like supporting
Speaker 3: her and cheering her on. Like, I just can't believe
Speaker 3: the power in these beach meetups. And once all this
Speaker 3: corona has you know, gone away, we plan on doing
Speaker 3: another one asap, but yeah, maybe you guys could come
Speaker 3: to the next one.
Speaker 2: Absolutely signed me up.
Speaker 1: You know what, even for myself, like after having a baby,
Speaker 1: there was a real period there where my body is
Speaker 1: not the body that it was a year and a
Speaker 1: half ago, and it never will be again.
Speaker 2: I mean it's still insane. No, it's not, it's not
Speaker 2: it's not even the point I am.
Speaker 1: I am still a victim of this comparison culture that
Speaker 1: exists on social media and I and I know better
Speaker 1: so to think that it affects me on some level,
Speaker 1: even though you know, I work in the social media world.
Speaker 1: I know I know exactly what happens. I can only
Speaker 1: assume how hugely it affects other people who maybe don't
Speaker 1: have that same insight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I couldn't agreement.
Speaker 1: I want to, like, we just skipped apart You've created
Speaker 1: this amazing company. How did it come into fruition? How
Speaker 1: did it start? Your challenges? Literally, for the people listening
Speaker 1: that don't know your story, give it to us.
Speaker 3: It's a fun story. You know. Molan has nearly been
Speaker 3: around for a decade now, which is insane to think.
Speaker 3: And as I touched on earlier, Molana didn't start for
Speaker 3: a reason where I wanted to be a business woman
Speaker 3: or I wanted to make money or I wanted to
Speaker 3: grow a company. That was never even didn't even cross
Speaker 3: my brain. All I wanted to do was, you know,
Speaker 3: make myself and other women feel good. So with that
Speaker 3: in mind, I finally just got a little kick that
Speaker 3: I needed. I was working at a local surf shop,
Speaker 3: and as I've mentioned as well, I'm a bit of alone.
Speaker 3: I don't have a whole lot of friends. And the
Speaker 3: people that I was working with at the time, they
Speaker 3: were my family and they were my friends, and I
Speaker 3: really valued the job there and the relationships. And I
Speaker 3: got very unfortunately and randomly let go one day for
Speaker 3: something that was just very untrue and just crazy to
Speaker 3: me to even really think about it. And I was
Speaker 3: just so upset and heartbroken. I just felt cheated on
Speaker 3: and it just made me so mad. And I was like,
Speaker 3: you know what, Like, I've just dedicated X amount of
Speaker 3: years to the company and the friendships there, and I'm mad,
Speaker 3: and you know, I just want to be accepted and
Speaker 3: loved and make other people feel good and you guys
Speaker 3: have justin you've just not made me feel like that.
Speaker 3: So I'm finally going to do what I've always wanted
Speaker 3: to do. And my dad was cheering me on the
Speaker 3: whole time, and he gave me eight hundred dollars and
Speaker 3: he said, Krena, go and start up the stimulator. Go
Speaker 3: and make people feel good. And you know you've talked
Speaker 3: about it for years, Just go and do it. And
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, Dad, I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: and do it. See you later.
Speaker 2: Oh, hang on, can I have eight hundred dollars? First?
Speaker 1: And so what percentage of the company does your dad own?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Oh? I hope he's not listening. He always makes joke.
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, bloody got shares in niche one. I'm like, yes, Dad,
Speaker 3: Well fy, my dad since has been paid back. And
Speaker 3: I also bring him daily treats, so if anything, he
Speaker 3: owes me now.
Speaker 1: But we always talk about this on our podcast. Is
Speaker 1: that from some of the biggest advance city you have
Speaker 1: in life can be an opportunity for growth. And I
Speaker 1: think that that's a testament for what you've done here,
Speaker 1: taking something that could have been like and was probably
Speaker 1: a really really sad time in your life and then
Speaker 1: flipping that narrative and creating something that's so incredible that
Speaker 1: you can now be like scream, guys, look what I've got.
Speaker 3: Absolutely and you know the fun part is, I actually
Speaker 3: went to a cafe many years ago and I was
Speaker 3: sitting there with a friend just ordering a coffee and
Speaker 3: the man who actually fired me came and had to
Speaker 3: wipe my table, like drop.
Speaker 1: And you're like, I'm sorry you missed at paw, it's
Speaker 1: on my butt.
Speaker 3: Wh I felt so uncomfortable, and like I really liked
Speaker 3: this person, and I just felt uncomfortable because I knew
Speaker 3: that he felt uncomfortable. It was just really strange.
Speaker 1: What has been one of your most proud moments with
Speaker 1: Moana where you're like, you know what, I never saw
Speaker 1: us doing this, but this is incredible.
Speaker 3: Definitely our beach meetups, like they're just crazyful. I just
Speaker 3: can't get over it, Like the amount of hugs and
Speaker 3: tears and dance parties and photos and positive energy. It's
Speaker 3: just like, oh, it's just goosebump material for like the
Speaker 3: whole half a day. Like I've never been so heavily
Speaker 3: impacted by an event in my life. And it's just
Speaker 3: so it's just so freaking crazy where it's kind of
Speaker 3: described the emotions that are there on the day and
Speaker 3: the fact that we can even pull it off and
Speaker 3: do it and people want to be a part of
Speaker 3: it just blows my mind.
Speaker 1: So how many people are we talking that turn up
Speaker 1: to these and are they like, are they all locals
Speaker 1: or do people come from all over.
Speaker 3: The last one we had was actually on the Gold Coast.
Speaker 3: Prior to that, we've done them over in Hawaii because
Speaker 3: a lot of our customers are over in the States,
Speaker 3: so we try to meet them halfway. We do plan
Speaker 3: on doing one in the States. We wanted to do
Speaker 3: it this year, but coronavirus hit, so no. But the
Speaker 3: last one we did was just on the Gold Coast.
Speaker 3: We had over three hundred and fifty girls, and we
Speaker 3: had people fly over from interstate, fly from overseas. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we've had a lot of people just come and show
Speaker 3: up to these things and that's it again, Like I'm
Speaker 3: just like, this is so crazy, Like people just want
Speaker 3: to be loved and they want to be a part
Speaker 3: of something, and they want to be accepted. And the
Speaker 3: fact that we can offer this to you know, as
Speaker 3: many people that are willing and able to show up
Speaker 3: is just such an unheard of thing.
Speaker 1: Why do you think you have such a huge community
Speaker 1: that's based in America? Like what was the catalyst there
Speaker 1: to create that community? And why why is the majority
Speaker 1: shared in Australia.
Speaker 3: It just organically happened. The very first sale I ever
Speaker 3: made was over in Florida actually, and Molana has just
Speaker 3: very naturally grown into the States. We never specifically marketed
Speaker 3: to the States. Everything's just been very organic. So I
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, they just obviously love our vibe,
Speaker 3: they love our bright colors, and yeah, I guess just
Speaker 3: word of mouth is so powerful as well.
Speaker 1: So can we talk a little bit about I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people think that maybe starting a business
Speaker 1: is easy. Starting a swim my label is like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: you just go and get something made and off you go.
Speaker 1: But how long was the how long was the process
Speaker 1: of when you started to maybe getting an employee, like
Speaker 1: how long were you putting the hours in yourself? What
Speaker 1: kind of workload was it? Were there really hard moments
Speaker 1: where you were like, oh, I just I can't do this.
Speaker 3: When I look back and think, well, how did I
Speaker 3: get here, it actually blows my mind a little bit
Speaker 3: because I'm like, how did I do that? What the heck?
Speaker 3: I didn't even drink coffee back then, Like, what the hell?
Speaker 2: Creener? Yeah, no, right.
Speaker 3: When I started, that was definitely hard. But it's so
Speaker 3: funny though, And it sounds cliche, but I didn't see
Speaker 3: it as hard because it was such a It was
Speaker 3: so fun. It was like a hobby and it still
Speaker 3: is to this day. But I started while I was
Speaker 3: working a part time job, and because you know, I
Speaker 3: needed money, I had rent to pay. And then gradually
Speaker 3: it's more one I got more successful. I dropped down
Speaker 3: to permanent part time, then I dropped down to casual,
Speaker 3: and then finally, maybe a year and a half later,
Speaker 3: I was confident enough to leave and do more on
Speaker 3: a full time And I was just working out of
Speaker 3: my spare bedroom and I did many, many many late
Speaker 3: nights sitting up till three a m. Watching YouTube tutorials
Speaker 3: on how to make seamless designs, learning a bit more
Speaker 3: about photoshop and illustrator, not even so much about business
Speaker 3: and entrepreneurship, Like none of that crossed my mind. I
Speaker 3: just wanted to produce amazing, unique swimwhere that's kind of
Speaker 3: flatter girls, make them feel special, make them look beautiful,
Speaker 3: and just overall make them feel good. That was honestly
Speaker 3: my only priority. I'm pretty sure I got my first
Speaker 3: staff member maybe like two years into business, and they
Speaker 3: were just a part time helping me out with customer service.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and I think mainly the only struggle that
Speaker 3: I really had was keeping up with the supply and demand.
Speaker 3: I never expected that we would be selling out so quickly,
Speaker 3: like literally in a matter of minutes seconds on some designs,
Speaker 3: which I actually cried a lot, because we had this
Speaker 3: community of girls that was so excited for let's just
Speaker 3: say the Brittany bikini. The Brittany bikini launches and it
Speaker 3: sells out so quickly, and then I'm getting and then
Speaker 3: I'm getting absolutely destroyed online like you haven't made enough,
Speaker 3: how do you, like, how are you going to fix this?
Speaker 3: I've waited weeks for this and I hear them, and
Speaker 3: I understand where they're coming from, but I'm like, you
Speaker 3: don't understand how hard he is, and I would be
Speaker 3: crying and so upset. But I obviously learned how to
Speaker 3: keep up with that a bit more.
Speaker 1: Now, if you're going to give some advice to someone
Speaker 1: who is going to or has been thinking about going
Speaker 1: out and starting their own business, what is like that
Speaker 1: one golden nugget of advice that you're like, here it is, girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, my little golden nugget is to just truly
Speaker 3: be absolutely passionate and in love with your idea and
Speaker 3: your message. Sometime, I've met a lot of people through business,
Speaker 3: and I find that the businesses that are achieving more
Speaker 3: and going further, the businesses where the people genuinely love
Speaker 3: and care about what they're doing. They're not focusing on money,
Speaker 3: they're not focusing on ego or impressing their family and friends.
Speaker 3: They're doing it from their heart and they mean everything
Speaker 3: that they are preaching. And I just think that you
Speaker 3: should always go into business with that kind of mindset,
Speaker 3: and I guess not just do it for financial reasons.
Speaker 1: I think like people underestimate the power of storytelling. And
Speaker 1: the power of community. I don't think that in this
Speaker 1: day and age, like product and good product is enough
Speaker 1: because everyone can make a decent product. It's such an
Speaker 1: accessible thing now. But that storytelling element and that the
Speaker 1: community element that goes with it is what sets business.
Speaker 3: Apart absolutely and at more on a bikini, I say
Speaker 3: to our stuff that customer service is the most important
Speaker 3: part of the job, and it's why our customer service
Speaker 3: girls are trained so in depth on how to talk
Speaker 3: to customers, speak the language. Just at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, make them happy. That's all I really care about.
Speaker 3: I just want them to come first. I want everything
Speaker 3: to be perfect for them, and I just want them
Speaker 3: to feel amazing. And obviously our product speaks for itself,
Speaker 3: but our customer service is really our main focus area.
Speaker 1: Jumping in now to your personal social media girlfriend, you
Speaker 1: are wild and I feel like you share so much.
Speaker 1: You share so much of yourself of like things that
Speaker 1: maybe other people would be self conscious about, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: you talk about cellulite on your social media, you talk
Speaker 1: about XMA, you talk about body confidence. What was it
Speaker 1: that made you make that transition? So I know, if
Speaker 1: you go back real deep into the Instagram archives. Originally
Speaker 1: your photos are really perfect, and you are that sort
Speaker 1: of aspirational, inspirational, perfect Instagram model. And now you're very
Speaker 1: real and you're very authentic and you're very you. What
Speaker 1: made you swat? Where did that come from?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, I guess there's two sides to the story.
Speaker 3: One is how I gained confidence in being my putting
Speaker 3: my personality online, and then the other side is my
Speaker 3: visual appearance appearance online. And my visual appearance came about like, yes,
Speaker 3: I used to edit photos. I used to make sure
Speaker 3: I looked a certain way, and that purely just came
Speaker 3: from being bullied and you know, copying all that horrible
Speaker 3: slack when I was a kid and a teenager, like
Speaker 3: I was petrified of being called the contagious scabby girl.
Speaker 3: You know, it was so scary, and you know, I
Speaker 3: guess I yeah, I was just scared. And then like
Speaker 3: I touched on before, I finally put myself out there
Speaker 3: with an unedited photo. And I did this because I
Speaker 3: was exhausted and sick and tired of it, and I
Speaker 3: just found myself to be being I guess a little
Speaker 3: bit of a hypocrite because my whole life I dreamed
Speaker 3: of having a role model that had XMA and we
Speaker 3: just talk about it and just be that person. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, Karna, you can be that person, like
Speaker 3: you have a platform to do it. And yeah, I
Speaker 3: posted a picture in winter where my ex me was
Speaker 3: quite bad and I was petrified. I posted it and
Speaker 3: I instantly got so much love and attention and people
Speaker 3: were saying, thank god, someone has done this, thank you
Speaker 3: so much. So even though I was scared. But when
Speaker 3: I put myself out there, I in return got you know,
Speaker 3: a really nice I guess like I just good credit
Speaker 3: and it made me feel good and it was making
Speaker 3: other people feel good, and I was like, Okay, well fine,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna keep doing it. Am I embarrassed? Yes?
Speaker 3: Am I self conscious about this? Absolutely? But is it
Speaker 3: making other people feel good? It looks like it is.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna keep running with it. And that's kind
Speaker 3: of how that kept going.
Speaker 1: If you guys don't follow Korena yet, you need to
Speaker 1: go and follow on Instagram.
Speaker 2: She's not hard to find.
Speaker 1: You actually don't give a fuck. I love it so much,
Speaker 1: like I really don't. There is nothing that is off lite.
Speaker 1: There are people that are on Instagram that you know,
Speaker 1: they don't care and they put the real out there.
Speaker 1: But you're like in next level you were like, this
Speaker 1: is unapologetically me and I love that. So if you
Speaker 1: guys don't follow a go and follow her any thing
Speaker 1: you put up now that you're like, oh, like, it
Speaker 1: sort of makes you think is that too much?
Speaker 2: Or oh yeah?
Speaker 1: Or do you ever worry about what you're like? Ah,
Speaker 1: every day, But that's okay. I like to push the envelope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like even like those fighting videos, I mean,
Speaker 3: like to be honest, Like I didn't even want to
Speaker 3: post that. The reason I ended up posting that is
Speaker 3: because it was so funny.
Speaker 1: Also, guys, if you don't know what we're talking about
Speaker 1: right now, this is gonna sound very random. Karina maybe
Speaker 1: two days ago, posted a video on her Instagram account
Speaker 1: where she spread eagle and farted, so like, it's as
Speaker 1: unfiltered as it can possibly get.
Speaker 2: So talk us through this.
Speaker 1: When did you get to the point where you were like,
Speaker 1: do you know what, I don't even care what the
Speaker 1: people have to say.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do v Oh well, that wasn't my first
Speaker 3: fighting video. My first fighting video came many months ago,
Speaker 3: maybe even last year. You see, fighting around my family
Speaker 3: and friends is funny, and it's a joke that it
Speaker 3: just goes around our circle and our family. It's just funny. Like,
Speaker 3: for example, my granddad, he actually calls himself the pop
Speaker 3: off King, and as a kid, he would do one
Speaker 3: fart and break it into like several individual farts and
Speaker 3: then he would say to me, how many was that?
Speaker 3: And I would be like four, and he'd be like
Speaker 3: it was six. So like, I've just grown up with
Speaker 3: farts as a funny joke in my family, and I'm
Speaker 3: pretty good at it, I would like to think.
Speaker 2: So, I mean it's a great skill.
Speaker 1: Lean into what you're good at, Like that's that's my recommendation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you stay in your lane and you do what
Speaker 3: you're good at. Mine is fighting. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: One night, I just I had a funny tummy and
Speaker 3: Ryan was laying on my leg and I just filmed
Speaker 3: it just for you know, shits and giggles, not for
Speaker 3: social media, absolutely not for social media, and the fart
Speaker 3: was just dumb. Big Ryan's reaction was hilarious, and then
Speaker 3: I I shred it to every one of my friends
Speaker 3: and family and everyone thought it was the funniest thing,
Speaker 3: and watching people's reactions, I was like, I'd love to
Speaker 3: put this on social media because it's just funny and
Speaker 3: everybody farts, and if I can just distract people and
Speaker 3: make them laugh about this, then, like, I just feel
Speaker 3: like that would be so great. So one day I
Speaker 3: just posted it and it went It's probably one of
Speaker 3: the most viral things I've done. It Even a couple
Speaker 3: of TV shows have requested my permission to use the
Speaker 3: video in their shows.
Speaker 1: You're like, great on You're like, I have a successful woman.
Speaker 1: I I have a successful bikini company. I got this
Speaker 1: booty like workout company, and you want to put my
Speaker 1: fart on your TV program?
Speaker 2: Fuck go for it.
Speaker 3: To be honest, all I want to do in life
Speaker 3: is make people feel good about themselves, and if that's
Speaker 3: putting myself out, I'm just gonna do it because in
Speaker 3: you know, in reaction to that, I'm helping like god
Speaker 3: knows how many other people. So if I feel uncomfortable
Speaker 3: for ten minutes, then I can handle that.
Speaker 2: I love it so much.
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I had such a good chuckle about it,
Speaker 1: and we were like, how do we bring up the
Speaker 1: fart conversation on the podcast, I was like, put on
Speaker 1: social media, I don't think we have to be subtle.
Speaker 2: Let's just ask. It's a free game.
Speaker 1: Another thing that you've been really open talking about on
Speaker 1: social media is your your transformation in your body and
Speaker 1: your own body confidence. And now this isn't the transformation
Speaker 1: that we normally see on social media where someone loses
Speaker 1: a lot of weight and gets really really tiny. How
Speaker 1: did you go from being that girl who wanted to
Speaker 1: be super thin to now being like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm really comfortable in my size and you're super fit
Speaker 1: and you're curvy. But how did you make that transition
Speaker 1: in what you saw as being your own personal standards
Speaker 1: for beauty?
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean that's such a great question. I don't even know
Speaker 3: what when the time was in my mind where that
Speaker 3: clicked for me or it changed. I do know that
Speaker 3: I just got tired of trying to be somebody that
Speaker 3: maybe the social media community wanted me to be or
Speaker 3: expected me to be to be accepted, I think. And
Speaker 3: then with that being said, I did start getting into
Speaker 3: working out not to be anything or look like anything.
Speaker 3: I just was like, I want to be a fitter.
Speaker 3: My dad had a really unfortunate accident and now he's
Speaker 3: a quadruplegic. Wow, that really showed me a different side
Speaker 3: of life, and it also made me value, you know,
Speaker 3: my life and the ability that I have every day
Speaker 3: that now has been taken away from him in a
Speaker 3: matter of literally three seconds. And I watched it all
Speaker 3: in real time as well. So going through that with
Speaker 3: my dad and being by his hospital bed for months
Speaker 3: and months on end, it's just opened my eyes to
Speaker 3: seeing that, like, like, life is so much more than
Speaker 3: being skinny, or being curvy, or being pretty, or being
Speaker 3: blonde or redhead or you know whatever. It's so much
Speaker 3: more than that. I think that life you're put here
Speaker 3: to have fun with it and accept yourself, make the
Speaker 3: most of your situation, and make other people around you
Speaker 3: feel great. And I think it was it's just that
Speaker 3: moment where I was like, you know what, my dad
Speaker 3: can't walk anymore, and here I am bitching about some exma.
Speaker 3: I want to go and be the best version of myself.
Speaker 3: I want to make my dad proud, and I want
Speaker 3: to make everybody around me proud, and I want to
Speaker 3: make people realize that life is precious, and I want
Speaker 3: them to acknowledge that.
Speaker 1: It's crazy that it takes something like that, isn't it.
Speaker 1: But because I followed you for so long, I see
Speaker 1: the relationship you have with your dad, and I see
Speaker 1: like the wheelchair races that you do along the path,
Speaker 1: like along the beach in the Gold Coast, and it's
Speaker 1: obviously a really beautiful, special thing that you have with
Speaker 1: your dad. So I think that's really heartwarming to a
Speaker 1: lot of people to see. It's also such a testament
Speaker 1: to your personality and to your strength that you have
Speaker 1: such a positive outlook on life, Like you seem to
Speaker 1: take these hurdles and the shit that life's throws at
Speaker 1: you and be using them as an opportunity to even
Speaker 1: make you to make your life even better.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a real testament to who you are as
Speaker 1: a person and why you have created this community and
Speaker 1: why people look up to you because this positivity is infectious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And like there's a lot of times on
Speaker 3: social media where I will get backlash for you know,
Speaker 3: certain things, and I get that everybody is entitled to
Speaker 3: opinions and things like that, and you know, it's when
Speaker 3: I do podcasts like this where I actually do have
Speaker 3: an opportunity to speak about why I am the way
Speaker 3: I am and why I talk the way I talk,
Speaker 3: and you know, why my actions are the way they are.
Speaker 3: And you know, I really appreciate you guys asking me
Speaker 3: questions like this because it does help me, you know,
Speaker 3: share a little bit more depth about my situation. And
Speaker 3: I think that's really special that you guys offer people
Speaker 3: like myself, you know, places to do that. So I think,
Speaker 3: thank you guys.
Speaker 2: Not at all.
Speaker 1: We feel really privileged that you, yeah, that you trust
Speaker 1: us to be able to share that side of your
Speaker 1: story with as well, So thank you. We really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Something that you just touched on, which which is what
Speaker 1: we wanted to get into next. Anyway, is this whole
Speaker 1: idea of online bullying. And you know, we have seen
Speaker 1: that you do get trolls. As much as you have
Speaker 1: this amazing community around you, there are people who get
Speaker 1: onto your social media and some pretty shitty comments in
Speaker 1: the comment section, and how do you deal with that?
Speaker 3: I mean, it really does depend on the topic. If
Speaker 3: it's just like a male saying like, you know, gross
Speaker 3: things about you know, female stuff like I don't care
Speaker 3: twice about that. I'm like, hah, that's funny. I think
Speaker 3: I do find trolling.
Speaker 1: Oh you're silly, man, You're so silly.
Speaker 3: Sit down, sweetie. But you know, I think that if
Speaker 3: I do get trolled in I guess like a more
Speaker 3: political manner. I guess that's hard for me because you know, like,
Speaker 3: like I've just shared with you guys a little bit
Speaker 3: about why I am the way I am, Like, not
Speaker 3: a lot of people do get to see that. So
Speaker 3: if people don't see eye, I don't ee with me,
Speaker 3: or they're not willing to be a little bit more
Speaker 3: open minded on why I've said what I've said, or
Speaker 3: I've reacted how I have reacted, which in my defense,
Speaker 3: is always with a lot of love and respect. I just,
Speaker 3: you know, I just tried not to really think about
Speaker 3: it because sometimes people aren't really willing to you know, listen,
Speaker 3: some people just want to hear what they want to hear,
Speaker 3: and you know, I'm not going to change their mindset,
Speaker 3: and you know, maybe you won't change their mindset. But
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I'm still here and
Speaker 3: I'm an open book, and if anybody wants to come
Speaker 3: and have a lovely conversation with me. I'm still going
Speaker 3: to hear them out one hundred percent. I think it's
Speaker 3: just how they approach.
Speaker 1: It, for sure, And I mean, Laura and I have
Speaker 1: experienced it in compared to you in the tiniest amount, obviously,
Speaker 1: we're both on the Bachelor. With that comes a lot
Speaker 1: of media, and with that comes a lot of people
Speaker 1: that think they know you, and they, I mean, every
Speaker 1: article that ever comes out about us. You try not
Speaker 1: to read the comment the daily male comment section.
Speaker 2: Jesus, it's the cessful of humanity.
Speaker 1: But I think that the real testament here is that
Speaker 1: you're never going to make everybody like you, and you
Speaker 1: shouldn't want to make everybody like you, because then you
Speaker 1: become such a diluted version of yourself. And you know what,
Speaker 1: people are going to love you for your authenticity and
Speaker 1: they're also going to hate you for it. And it's
Speaker 1: okay to sit somewhere in the middle of that. You
Speaker 1: because I've been following you so long and I actually
Speaker 1: read a lot of the comments. You literally can't win.
Speaker 1: This is what I have found. It doesn't it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what you have posted, how happy, positive, how raw
Speaker 1: you've been there's someone or not even someone, it's usually
Speaker 1: like one hundred people that will just jump on your back.
Speaker 1: And I've seen you have conversations like I find it
Speaker 1: amazing how much time you find to dedicate to your audience.
Speaker 1: I've seen you have conversations with people and it just
Speaker 1: goes around in circles. Is there a time where you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I just literally I don't want to
Speaker 1: do this anymore? Or does it ever weigh you down,
Speaker 1: the trolling and the negativity, because you obviously have so
Speaker 1: many people that love and adore you, but we often
Speaker 1: talk about how it only takes one person's negativity you
Speaker 1: latch onto that.
Speaker 2: So does it ever get you down?
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, it definitely gets me down. And just because
Speaker 3: I don't want to make anyone feel bad, because that's
Speaker 3: never my intention. And sometimes with those comments where I
Speaker 3: have spent time to listen, acknowledge and his somebody out,
Speaker 3: when those conversations do go in circles, I do throw
Speaker 3: my hands up and I do get frustrated, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: this person isn't willing to listen, They're not willing to
Speaker 3: just be open minded with where I'm coming from. Even
Speaker 3: though I'm hearing them, they're not really hearing me. Occasionally,
Speaker 3: if it's getting out of hand, I'll send them a
Speaker 3: really nice voice message you know, Hey, you can do
Speaker 3: that on Instagram DMS. Oh well, I think I did
Speaker 3: it to you.
Speaker 1: You did, you splid on into my DMS, not jealous
Speaker 1: whatever I did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do like to hit people up those kinds
Speaker 3: of people in voice memo. I feel like it's a
Speaker 3: nice reminder that, even though we're talking via a phone screen,
Speaker 3: that I'm a human and you can hear the empathy
Speaker 3: in my voice, you can hear my personality in my tone,
Speaker 3: and you can hear that I am a good person
Speaker 3: and I'm listening and I'm acknowledging you sometimes, I guess,
Speaker 3: and you guys probably would have found it as well.
Speaker 3: People will read your captions or your comments, but they'll
Speaker 3: read it with whatever tone they choose to read it with,
Speaker 3: and we don't have any control over that. So I
Speaker 3: think that voice memos, you know, they're really good. And
Speaker 3: nine times out of ten, when I end up having
Speaker 3: a voice memo conversation where we're in a good place
Speaker 3: together by the end of.
Speaker 1: It, my question is like, why do you bother with
Speaker 1: the trolls, Like I think most people's way that they
Speaker 1: approach it is that they just block and delete, but
Speaker 1: you actually take time to engage and write back and
Speaker 1: have conversations with and actually take it upon yourself to
Speaker 1: change their opinion. Like why do you feel compelled to
Speaker 1: do that? Why do you want to do that?
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm so busy. I think that I
Speaker 3: just have a lot of empathy for people as well,
Speaker 3: and I care. I guess I care about what they
Speaker 3: say and I just want them to feel acknowledged. And
Speaker 3: I don't want to always try and change somebody's mind
Speaker 3: because I you know, I don't have time for that,
Speaker 3: and I don't want to change people's minds at all.
Speaker 3: Like imagine if we all felt and thought the same,
Speaker 3: like the world would be a crazy, boring place. But
Speaker 3: I just want people to understand that on social media
Speaker 3: they can be heard and they are heard, and I
Speaker 3: am listening and I'm learning and I'm willing to do that.
Speaker 3: And I just think it comes around as well, like
Speaker 3: I want to be treated how I treat other people,
Speaker 3: and I just believe in that, like you know, you
Speaker 3: treat others how you wish to be treated. And it's
Speaker 3: just something that I do like to apply on my
Speaker 3: social media because you know, there's so many young girls
Speaker 3: watching and I just really do want to be a
Speaker 3: good role model for those people that are, you know,
Speaker 3: sitting back with the popcorn watching everything go down.
Speaker 2: And just in relation to that, what piece of advice
Speaker 2: do you have.
Speaker 1: We do have a young audience, we have, I mean,
Speaker 1: we have a pretty broad audience. But what advice do
Speaker 1: you have to people that are sort of going through
Speaker 1: trolling or bullying, all this imposter type syndrome on social media?
Speaker 1: What advice do you have to them?
Speaker 3: I think the advice that I could give to them
Speaker 3: is to just never take it on board. Keep in
Speaker 3: mind that you know, everywhere in the world, you know,
Speaker 3: everyone's different, Everyone has a different background, and they all
Speaker 3: have different experiences, which is something that everyone having an
Speaker 3: opinion on social media really does need to recognize and acknowledge.
Speaker 3: I mean, here in Australia, we're not exposed to the
Speaker 3: things that you know, the American population are exposed to,
Speaker 3: so there is a huge cultural difference there as well,
Speaker 3: and sometimes I think that people can forget that, and
Speaker 3: you know, just in general, so if you're getting trolld.
Speaker 3: Just remember you don't even know their story. You don't
Speaker 3: know why they're acting out. You don't know why they're
Speaker 3: saying the things they are, and the reason they're probably
Speaker 3: saying those things to you probably has absolutely nothing to
Speaker 3: do with you at all. They've never met you, they've
Speaker 3: never spoken to you. Deep down, you know who you are.
Speaker 3: You know that you're a beautiful boss babe, and just
Speaker 3: really try hard not to take it on board because
Speaker 3: you need to be confident with who you are.
Speaker 1: That leads into a question that I find really interesting.
Speaker 1: What are your opinions on face tune and photoshop on
Speaker 1: social media and people using it and passing themselves off
Speaker 1: as though that's actually what they look like.
Speaker 3: Oh God, it's sonnoying. It actually really makes me sad
Speaker 3: for the reasons that you were just saying about that
Speaker 3: school teacher. There's two sides, and I think that editing
Speaker 3: is yay and nay. I don't believe that you should
Speaker 3: be making yourself look like somebody you're not. I don't
Speaker 3: believe you should be smoothing out your skin to look
Speaker 3: like a doll. And I don't believe that you should
Speaker 3: be reconstructing your body or your face as well. Not
Speaker 3: only is that just awkward because I don't know. I
Speaker 3: don't know about you guys, but I can tell straight
Speaker 3: away as soon as someone I like to say, has
Speaker 3: cooked their photo, Like I can tell, Yeah, I'm just like,
Speaker 3: well that is cooked. Like the whites of your eyes
Speaker 3: are brighter than the moon right now, that's not normal,
Speaker 3: you know, like your eyebrows in your hairline like that.
Speaker 3: Not even botox or whatever procedure would do that. Like,
Speaker 3: I get it. But you know, a lot of those people,
Speaker 3: I think that our editing their pictures so heavily is
Speaker 3: they may not be accepting themselves, and they might be
Speaker 3: a little scared of controversy. And I sympathize with that.
Speaker 3: And I think that if you're in a place where
Speaker 3: you're still learning to accept, you're a bit scared to
Speaker 3: just actually post a role photo of you, because it
Speaker 3: actually is a huge deal, especially now, like bullying is real,
Speaker 3: and if you're not quite out that phase and you
Speaker 3: do just want to face tune a little bit off,
Speaker 3: photoshop a bit of your picture, you know what, That's fine,
Speaker 3: you go for it, just don't make yourself look like
Speaker 3: somebody or not, because how awkward when I see you
Speaker 3: in real life and I don't recognize you.
Speaker 1: I used to have that fear that I wouldn't like
Speaker 1: photoshop and edit my photos to talk photos. But my
Speaker 1: Instagram used to be at this point where I only
Speaker 1: wanted to put these the best angles and the best
Speaker 1: photos with the best lining, and.
Speaker 2: My makeup was great.
Speaker 1: And then I used to think, I've literally put the
Speaker 1: top one percent of who I am. I'm going to
Speaker 1: see someone in the street and like this, like look
Speaker 1: like a hobo, and they're gonna be like, that's Brittany,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. And then I got
Speaker 1: to the point now where I just I just put
Speaker 1: whatever up. I mean, I still put good photos up,
Speaker 1: but I show who I am more. But I used
Speaker 1: to be petrified, especially when I was dating online dating.
Speaker 1: I was like, what if I walk into the restaurant and.
Speaker 2: He doesn't even know who I am?
Speaker 1: But I also think that that shift now even in
Speaker 1: your own social media bred like that is just a
Speaker 1: true testament that the platform of social media is changing,
Speaker 1: and that, like we said earlier, people are crating authenticity,
Speaker 1: people are seeking out authenticity, and because people like you
Speaker 1: Karina are putting their raw version of themselves out on
Speaker 1: social media, other people feel empowered to follow, and that's
Speaker 1: an incredible legacy that you are setting, I think as.
Speaker 3: Well, Like that's why I focus really heavily on stories.
Speaker 3: I love Instagram stories a hundred times more than posting
Speaker 3: a picture. I like my personality more than what I
Speaker 3: look like, and you know, I like to share that
Speaker 3: as well. You know, I just think that I can
Speaker 3: be fine, and I can make people laugh a bit,
Speaker 3: and I put a lot of energy into stories and
Speaker 3: I structure them and I want to edit them fine.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's almost like every day is like
Speaker 3: a little mini YouTube on my story, and I think
Speaker 3: that's really cool because you get to actually see my personality.
Speaker 3: You get to see videos of me so obviously a
Speaker 3: kind of face tune of video. And I just feel
Speaker 3: like when you are on Instagram, you can choose to
Speaker 3: follow people that are showing more of a vulnerable, video
Speaker 3: kind of side of themselves as well. Like it's just
Speaker 3: up to the individual, you know, to filter out who
Speaker 3: they do and don't want to follow and what they
Speaker 3: want to be exposed to.
Speaker 2: Totally, I'm so much more.
Speaker 1: I agree, I'm so much more like, I have a
Speaker 1: lot more personality on my stories, and I'm so much
Speaker 1: more like this is me and bed at night looking gross,
Speaker 1: being a wanker, And I love that more because people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, I didn't I didn't know you actually
Speaker 1: had personality. I'm like, okay, thanks, I got one. But Karna,
Speaker 1: we are a relationships podcast, and you have the cutest
Speaker 1: relationship with Ryan. You're totally smittening in love a couple girls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: instagrams as well, you work together, you tegether all the time,
Speaker 1: you fart on him.
Speaker 2: Love that. How did you? How did you?
Speaker 1: What's your story? How did you meet? Tell me about it?
Speaker 1: Tell me about you?
Speaker 2: Guys him.
Speaker 3: I was probably single for just under twelve months. Wasn't
Speaker 3: interested in getting into a new relationship. I like my
Speaker 3: lone time. Like I said, Tinder was a thing. All
Speaker 3: my friends were like, you should have fun on there.
Speaker 3: It's like a game, it's fun. And I was so
Speaker 3: embarrassed to go on it, so I just didn't just
Speaker 3: watch from a far.
Speaker 4: But one dark and stormy night, I was sitting on
Speaker 4: the cop and I was watching Sex in the City,
Speaker 4: and I had Ntella and tiny Teddies and I was
Speaker 4: feeling all sassy.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, you know, I am.
Speaker 2: Shop me some boyfriend.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, So I downloaded the app in the privacy of
Speaker 3: my home and I started swiping, and I connected with Ryan.
Speaker 3: I don't know how long it was, but it was
Speaker 3: very freaking quickly, Like my whole Tinder experience was only
Speaker 3: Ryan and we matched. We chatted for a bit, and
Speaker 3: then obviously he asked for my number, because you know,
Speaker 3: I'm just like so freaking cool and da, I gave
Speaker 3: him my number, and then you know, later on he
Speaker 3: text me and I just played a prank and I
Speaker 3: was like, sorry, who's this? You know? So we had
Speaker 3: that banter kind of straight away, and we texted each
Speaker 3: other for three weeks, and then finally we went out
Speaker 3: for coffee and we've actually been very inseparable since that
Speaker 3: coffee date.
Speaker 2: That's so cute.
Speaker 1: What a Tinder success story. I know, what's your secret?
Speaker 1: What's your secret? Because I've been you did it on
Speaker 1: your first Tinder guy. I've been on online dating for
Speaker 1: about nine years now. Brittany's actually just worn a whole
Speaker 1: pattern in her phone from where she swipes from left
Speaker 1: to right.
Speaker 2: I've lost some.
Speaker 1: Skin on my on my point of finger. My swiper
Speaker 1: finger rip for Britney's finger. One thing, one thing I
Speaker 1: really want to know about how your dynamic of your
Speaker 1: relationship works is obviously like you guys work together. He
Speaker 1: is a core part of Mowana as well, Like, how
Speaker 1: does that work for you?
Speaker 2: Do you not get sick of it each other? Who's
Speaker 2: the boss? How does it work?
Speaker 3: Definitely don't get sick of each other at all. I
Speaker 3: miss him and he's just like downstairs right now, Love you, honey.
Speaker 3: You guys are disgusting, so gross. I think that you
Speaker 3: know Ryan and I as cliches, it sounds we were
Speaker 3: just like so made for each other. We're completely different people,
Speaker 3: but we have the same values and we just work
Speaker 3: very well together, both in a personal relationship sense and
Speaker 3: a work sense. We both respect each other and we
Speaker 3: both know that we specialize in different fields as well.
Speaker 3: So you know, at Ryan used to be the managing
Speaker 3: editor of Surfing Life magazine. He's really great at marketing,
Speaker 3: he's great at writing, he's really well spoken. You know,
Speaker 3: you've had to deal with him.
Speaker 1: The excellent, excellent customer service skills. He was on that
Speaker 1: email in a hot second.
Speaker 3: I know he was and he's just so great. And
Speaker 3: then when the editorial job was, you know, going down
Speaker 3: because editorial has slowly faded away. Everything's online now, I
Speaker 3: was like, shotgun.
Speaker 1: Maana, slash, marry me and never leave my side again,
Speaker 1: love you bye.
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, and then Ryan, I don't even know if
Speaker 3: we really had a conversation about it, but Ryan just
Speaker 3: really wanted to. He just loves what Maurana does for people,
Speaker 3: and he's all about that. And so now Ryan is
Speaker 3: our customer, he's our operations manager. So Ryan is basically
Speaker 3: keeping the business ticking along, and he does a lot
Speaker 3: behind the scenes that no one even knows about, which
Speaker 3: he's fine with. He's like, you know, just a ghost
Speaker 3: that makes everything look amazing. But at work, like I
Speaker 3: don't know, Like we don't fight, we don't argue. We
Speaker 3: always see ey to eye, and I think it's just
Speaker 3: because we just we respect each other and we're just
Speaker 3: always on the same page no matter what it is.
Speaker 3: We are always just on the same page.
Speaker 1: And also because you're like, well I'm the boss.
Speaker 3: So oh no, no, I'm the boss. I am the boss.
Speaker 3: He can here's my here's my two I see them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, with perfect I love this and do you
Speaker 1: have a bit do you have like one piece of
Speaker 1: relationship advice, like what what would you what would you
Speaker 1: pass down to your children one day.
Speaker 3: I think that relationship shouldn't be hard. And I think
Speaker 3: that although a relationship, although a relationship, you do need
Speaker 3: to work at it every day, but at the at
Speaker 3: the same time, they shouldn't be hard. And I've been
Speaker 3: in past relationships where they have been hard, and they've
Speaker 3: they've been really sad, and they've made me question my
Speaker 3: my true self and what I love about myself and
Speaker 3: want I believe about myself. And then when I met Ryan,
Speaker 3: I've never had to deal with that ever again. And
Speaker 3: it's just maybe noticed that relationships are meant to be fun.
Speaker 3: They're a life experience. There can be your life partner,
Speaker 3: and you know, I just think that you need to
Speaker 3: just look out for those little warning signs and find
Speaker 3: that person that really listens to you and believes in you.
Speaker 2: So ignore the warning signs. Ban And.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you have literally just been singing
Speaker 1: to the choir with that advice. That's like something that
Speaker 1: we try and drive home on this podcast is that
Speaker 1: there's this real sort of I think there's this like glorification,
Speaker 1: almost romanticizing of like difficult relationships because it's like you've
Speaker 1: got to work at it, and I just don't think
Speaker 1: that's the case. I think I've I have also, like you,
Speaker 1: I've had relationships that have been so so hard, they've
Speaker 1: been so turbulent, they've been so up and down, and
Speaker 1: I thought at the time that they would that would
Speaker 1: amount to something that was worthwhile. And now in my relationship,
Speaker 1: it's the It's the fucking easiest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: We're always happy, we're always laughing, And it made me
Speaker 1: realize that this is actually what it's supposed to be like,
Speaker 1: and this is the only way it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: for you to be able to have a really long
Speaker 1: and fulfilling relationship that doesn't have you crying every other
Speaker 1: day or feeling like you're on this emotional rollercoaster.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I couldn't agree more with that.
Speaker 1: So Laura always makes a joke that like, there'll be
Speaker 1: one really nice guy over on my right and there'll
Speaker 1: be fifty red flags in a bundle to my I'll
Speaker 1: run just red flags on the left hand side, and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh shiney.
Speaker 2: I mean, evidently Karta.
Speaker 1: We always wrap up our chats with the an embarrassing story.
Speaker 1: We have a segment called Accidentally Unfiltered, which basically started
Speaker 1: with like a really embarrassing story on my behalf, and
Speaker 1: now we always get people to chime in, So do
Speaker 1: you have for us? Are super embarrassing? I feel like
Speaker 1: already know the answer, an accidentally unfiltered story of your
Speaker 1: very own.
Speaker 3: I do, and I'm sweating just thinking about it. So
Speaker 3: this story I've actually never told the public. Yes, so
Speaker 3: this is you've heard it here first, We've got exclusive
Speaker 3: All right, guys, are you ready ready?
Speaker 2: I'm Sally looks like on the edge of a seat.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, let me paint you a cute little picture.
Speaker 3: Bright and I had only been dating for maybe two
Speaker 3: years or so. It was Mauana Bikini's Christmas party, so
Speaker 3: we all went out to Tepanyaki. I don't drink alcohol,
Speaker 3: didn't drink coffee at the time, but decided to get
Speaker 3: myself an espresso martini. Tasted great. I loved it, but
Speaker 3: it was incredibly strong, and I knew that I was
Speaker 3: and I got Ryan to test and he was like, WHOA,
Speaker 3: that's that's strong, And I was like oh well, yay.
Speaker 3: So anyway, I drunk one one of those drinks and
Speaker 3: you know whatever. But maybe like two or three hours later,
Speaker 3: we had moved on and we were out in public
Speaker 3: at Max Brenner for dessert with you know, all this stuff.
Speaker 3: And I was also with my good friend Michael Huxley
Speaker 3: and all his stuff because we always do a combined
Speaker 3: Christmas party because he has a school of makeup next
Speaker 3: door to us. Anyway, all of a sudden, I started
Speaker 3: to get these excruciating pains, like pains that I've never
Speaker 3: actually felt before. I thought that like I had a
Speaker 3: stomach alcar or. My stomach was flipping, and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god. And I started to get sweaty, and
Speaker 3: I said to Ryan, I need to go home. I
Speaker 3: don't there's something wrong with me. I'm thinking, like I
Speaker 3: need to go to hospital, like there's something wrong with me.
Speaker 3: So we left and we drove home, and this sharp
Speaker 3: pain just kept coming on. So something else had never
Speaker 3: happened before. We had locked ourselves out of my old apartment.
Speaker 2: I can see where this is going.
Speaker 3: I know you can see where it's going, but it
Speaker 3: actually gets so much worse than where you think it's
Speaker 3: gonna go as well, which is great. So I'll just
Speaker 3: cut to the chase a bit. Forty five minutes spent
Speaker 3: trying to get hold of a locksmith. Now by this time,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm about to shit my pants, And
Speaker 3: I said to were in the garage of my apartment
Speaker 3: at Mermaid Beach, where it's like bumper to bumper apartment buildings,
Speaker 3: no privacy, and I've just said trying, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: I need to go toilet. I need to go twilet.
Speaker 3: So I have got out of the car, got out
Speaker 3: of the garage, and I've run into this tiny little
Speaker 3: backyard where there's apartments all around me, and I have
Speaker 3: had to squat in the backyard and I have gone
Speaker 3: to the toilet all over the lawn. And I've got
Speaker 3: to admit it was probably the best feeling of relief
Speaker 3: I've ever felt in my entire existence, being in this
Speaker 3: kind of But it didn't end there. Unfortunately. I tried
Speaker 3: to clean up. I did try to clean up the
Speaker 3: mess by getting a bucket of water and you know,
Speaker 3: rinsing it through the grass. Unfortunately, that just expanded the situation.
Speaker 2: Trina, You're like the poo jogger.
Speaker 3: Oh well, I actually ended up jogging, so I couldn't
Speaker 3: go get in the backyard. And we lived on the beach,
Speaker 3: and Ryan's like, you're gonna have to go down to
Speaker 3: the beach. So here's me at midnight on the phone.
Speaker 3: I called my mom because I don't want to get
Speaker 3: attack down the beach, and I'm running down the beach
Speaker 3: and I'm like, Mom, help me. I'm going to the beach.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put myself and my mom's like Karna. At first,
Speaker 3: she was very grumpy that I woke her up at midnight,
Speaker 3: but by the end of the conversation, when I'm squatting
Speaker 3: in the sand dunes, digging holes trying to like get
Speaker 3: this out of my system, She's hysterical. I had to
Speaker 3: go down to the beach and like rinse. And then
Speaker 3: by the time the locksmith had finally got back to
Speaker 3: the house hours later, I'd let it all out and
Speaker 3: I felt fine. So I publicly pooed myself.
Speaker 2: And then you.
Speaker 1: Were actually not the first person to do that, so
Speaker 1: don't worry so good. I wasn't expecting an embarrassing story
Speaker 1: quite that embarrassing. Did you end up going back to
Speaker 1: the Christmas party?
Speaker 3: No, that had long gone, but obviously everyone knows and
Speaker 3: it's a very fun, funly talked about a situation in
Speaker 3: the office.
Speaker 1: So yes, oh Karina, you are an absolute vision. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for taking time today to talk to us.
Speaker 1: We absolutely love you every second of having this chat,
Speaker 1: but also thank you for just being the incredible role
Speaker 1: model and the empowering woman that you are on social media.
Speaker 1: You have created such an inspiring community and we're so
Speaker 1: grateful that you've taken this time to chat to us today.
Speaker 1: Just before we let you go, lastly, we always end
Speaker 1: our episodes with our suck and our sweet for the week,
Speaker 1: which means that it's like your high light and your
Speaker 1: low light, so you get to kick it off.
Speaker 2: What was your suck for this week?
Speaker 3: I think my suck for this week was it's so
Speaker 3: so cute. I just kind of missed my dad. I
Speaker 3: haven't been able to see you, and I know I
Speaker 3: haven't even called him in two days. I normally call
Speaker 3: my mum and dad every day, so I actually kind
Speaker 3: of missed my dad a little bit, so I'm gonna
Speaker 3: try and call him maybe after this podcast. So that's
Speaker 3: my little suck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what is your sweet? As part of your week.
Speaker 3: Okay, my sweet for the week would probably be our
Speaker 3: recent Molana bikini launch was just really crazy successful and
Speaker 3: the amazing positive feedback we got from our customers was phenomenal.
Speaker 3: And I had customers personally messaging me on Facebook and
Speaker 3: Instagram letting them know that our customer service staff went
Speaker 3: above and beyond to make them happy, and that just
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just told the girls at work
Speaker 3: yesterday how much I really appreciate their time and their effort,
Speaker 3: and I just I feel very honored and lucky to
Speaker 3: have those kind of people around me.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. Karina.
Speaker 1: For everybody who is listening who maybe doesn't follow you
Speaker 1: on social media right now, can you please tell us
Speaker 1: your Instagram handles? Where can they find you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can follow me on at Karina Irbi
Speaker 3: spelled Irby, It's just my name on Instagram and obviously
Speaker 3: Molana is at Molana Underscore Bikini.
Speaker 1: Pritty, give me your second suite. I just didn't know
Speaker 1: what we're going there, Come on, give it to me. Okay,
Speaker 1: So my suck this week, Okay, my suck would have
Speaker 1: to be I had some news found out some news.
Speaker 1: Let Laura know basically, we found out that the America
Speaker 1: is picking up the Bachelor franchise in Australia.
Speaker 2: This is huge.
Speaker 1: They're gonna put on HBO, Like, that's incredible. The only
Speaker 1: season they're not gonna pick up was the one that
Speaker 1: I was monumentally dumped on, which is a Honey Badger,
Speaker 1: and I just thought, cut a girl a break.
Speaker 2: Like I got.
Speaker 1: I got this text message in britt yesterday and she
Speaker 1: was like, fuck you. You win everything. You're even getting
Speaker 1: your show shown in the States, and I get another
Speaker 1: because Laura season, Morris.
Speaker 2: Season, she gets the hot guy. Don't tell a matter
Speaker 2: acord him hot.
Speaker 1: She gets the hot guy so hitting on my fiance,
Speaker 1: she gets the baby. She gets a season on HBO.
Speaker 1: You sliding to a DMS. I get dumps like no
Speaker 1: one else in Bachelor history. No baby, no boyfriend, no
Speaker 1: HBO series. Are we expected to feel sorry for you?
Speaker 1: What are you doing right now? I'm just telling is
Speaker 1: my second look. It's been a hard week for Britney.
Speaker 3: Rock one too.
Speaker 1: What is your sweet? My sweet is probably two things tied.
Speaker 1: Talking to your Kreina, I've actually just had the funnest
Speaker 1: hour and a half. I've loved it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: You're very inspiring. So that's definitely a sweet. My other
Speaker 1: sweet is I lost my dog last week. We had
Speaker 1: to put her down. But I just had this fan,
Speaker 1: like a girl that follows me on Instagram. She just
Speaker 1: she's an amazing artist and out of nowhere, she's like,
Speaker 1: I just drew your dog for you and for your
Speaker 1: dad because I know how much it meant. And I
Speaker 1: sent and she sent it to me. I put on
Speaker 1: my Instagram story. It was incredible. It was so accurate
Speaker 1: of my dog, Lily. Do you know what the smallest Yeah,
Speaker 1: the smallest piece of kindness from someone I don't even know,
Speaker 1: and it made my day and my whole my dad,
Speaker 1: my family. So I just thought, wow, like going out
Speaker 1: of your way to make someone else feel good. It's
Speaker 1: just she doesn't know how much she's changed my my week.
Speaker 1: So that's it.
Speaker 3: That's so beautiful. I love that I know.
Speaker 2: And what about you, el dog? Oh man? Am I
Speaker 2: starting with my suck? You know the rules? You start
Speaker 2: with your suck.
Speaker 1: Look, I've rely been doing this for a year, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm still new to this.
Speaker 2: My suck.
Speaker 1: I've had a really good week, so I don't have
Speaker 1: a suck. So this is gonna sound like the most
Speaker 1: trivial thing that has happened to anyone. I spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time yesterday running around trying to get bits
Speaker 1: and pieces that we didn't have.
Speaker 2: In order to do this zoom meeting. So as much
Speaker 2: as I.
Speaker 1: Fucking love the fact that we've done it and you
Speaker 1: are my highlight, Carena, the running around and like not
Speaker 1: knowing exactly how to do it was like a bit
Speaker 1: of a look, it's some new skill. Let's focus on
Speaker 1: the positives. I now know how to do remote recording,
Speaker 1: so I've learned a new thing. My suite for the week,
Speaker 1: I've really forgotten these things now. I thought I had them.
Speaker 1: At the start of every episode, I'm like, Babes, remember
Speaker 1: your suck, and sweet she's like, yeah, babe, got it,
Speaker 1: and then she forgets it every day. Okay, look, my sweet,
Speaker 1: I am sleep deprived. I have like a baby that
Speaker 1: doesn't sleep very well, so okay, my seat for the
Speaker 1: week is always pretty much revolved around Mally, my sweet.
Speaker 1: For this week, she has been teething and it's been
Speaker 1: a really really stressful time because she's just not sleeping.
Speaker 1: She's pretty irate, but we feel like we're on the
Speaker 1: other side of her first couple of teeth that she's
Speaker 1: pushed out, and she's back to eating, and she's back
Speaker 1: to sleeping better, and she's just a happy baby again,
Speaker 1: which is really I mean, no one cares except for me,
Speaker 1: but it's really important to me.
Speaker 2: I can do no.
Speaker 3: That's great. And you know, as a mummy, it would
Speaker 3: be so hard, and to see your little one crying.
Speaker 2: Always it kills you.
Speaker 1: Just still blows my mind, like how much they take
Speaker 1: over every facet of your life. And I never thought
Speaker 1: that I would be the sort of mum that would
Speaker 1: be like, oh, guys, we're going to talk about my baby.
Speaker 1: He's teething now. But I am exactly that mum and
Speaker 1: I'm so fine with it.
Speaker 2: So whatever.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think it's great.
Speaker 2: Good for you.
Speaker 1: Well, Karana, thanks so much for coming on the show today.
Speaker 1: We've absolutely loved having you. Been a blast, loved every second.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me on the podcast.
Speaker 3: This was really therapeutic, and I got to admit I
Speaker 3: opened up about a few things that I've never even
Speaker 3: publicly acknowledged, and I want to thank you guys for that.
Speaker 3: And I've had a really fun time talking. I actually
Speaker 3: really don't want it to end. You guys have such
Speaker 3: a great energy together. You guys are a blast. And yeah,
Speaker 3: you've got me hooked on life. You're a podcast. I
Speaker 3: love you guys.
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