Speaker 1: The Flex and Rooms Daily Podcast brought.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast, and I'm currently standing up. I'm
Speaker 2: wearing a Cruiser Vodka Cruzer branded tracksuit in a Morone
Speaker 2: colourway free press.
Speaker 3: Always that is raspberry, not Morone.
Speaker 2: It's giving morone.
Speaker 3: What about you, No way, that is raspberry.
Speaker 2: It's giving a dark magenta to me. Yes, that was
Speaker 2: gonna even next. You know, my uniform in school was
Speaker 2: dark magenta. It was the biggest sleigh. We had a
Speaker 2: kilt with little pink hearts all over it.
Speaker 3: That's cute. It was just it was some pickies. Oh
Speaker 3: I will I never. I wasn't very cute though, So
Speaker 3: it's not about that. I was just looking. Even if
Speaker 3: you google the school.
Speaker 2: And we can have a look at it, Okay, we'll
Speaker 2: rank it anyway. Today we're talking about influencers, which is
Speaker 2: very pertinent to this current tracksuit because I am an
Speaker 2: ambassador of vodka Cruser. We're talking about influencers. We're just
Speaker 2: going to get to it and hopefully we can learn.
Speaker 2: I mean you to learn.
Speaker 3: I wish. What I want to start doing is when
Speaker 3: we have conversations about influencers. Where we differ from the
Speaker 3: general podcast space is by giving everyone access to behind
Speaker 3: the scenes. Yes, I don't want to talk about influencers.
Speaker 3: I want to talk about the bits of the job
Speaker 3: that people wouldn't have access to because it's a very
Speaker 3: closed circuit circle.
Speaker 2: We want to talk about being influencers. Yeah, but in
Speaker 2: a way that's not self congratulatory, but also is because
Speaker 2: the ego is enormous. Anyway, enough chet chat, let's go
Speaker 2: chat flex and frooms.
Speaker 3: I experienced unbridled, unparalleled joy a couple of days ago,
Speaker 3: and I was not expecting it, which that's why I
Speaker 3: hit the spot in a brand new way. I got
Speaker 3: told about this initiative by fun Lab. It's called the
Speaker 3: Day of Fun. So basically, fun Lab are the people
Speaker 3: who own like Holy Moly Darts, Lardie Darts and all
Speaker 3: those other venues and on the I think it's September sixth, everything,
Speaker 3: all the activities get reduced to five dollars for some
Speaker 3: kind of fundraiser for youth mental health. So I was,
Speaker 3: I want to try these darts things, because like, playing
Speaker 3: Holy Moly not my thing. I'm I don't have a
Speaker 3: really good hand eye coordination. But I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll go play darts. That'll be fun.
Speaker 2: So we get there.
Speaker 3: First thing, I saw a friend and I was like,
Speaker 3: hold on, I feel like these are the same people
Speaker 3: who are like these places are lame. I pull up
Speaker 3: and you're already here, very odd. So we go and
Speaker 3: they're like, okay, so you can play darts. You can
Speaker 3: set up at like this station. It's fully electronic, which
Speaker 3: is not what I expected. What when I played darts before.
Speaker 3: It's been twice. One has been on a corkboard of
Speaker 3: some sort with like a needle, a flying needle. And
Speaker 3: the second time was definitely at like this cool high
Speaker 3: tech Korean bar where it was like digital everything. This
Speaker 3: was somewhere in the middle. I don't understand how it works,
Speaker 3: but basically I was like a computer screen where you like,
Speaker 3: pick what dark game you want to choose. They've developed
Speaker 3: games that use the function of throwing the dart as
Speaker 3: the mechanic, but different types of games. Here's my thing.
Speaker 3: I haven't played a game in a long time because
Speaker 3: I'm an adult. But not only that, I do PlayStation right,
Speaker 3: and that's a very different type of gaming. It's simulating
Speaker 3: life in some way, Like yes, you don't shoot and
Speaker 3: attack people in life, but you're playing a person and
Speaker 3: you have to go on adventures and it's very draining
Speaker 3: because you have to think. This was just like figure
Speaker 3: out what your skill is. Throw it on the board,
Speaker 3: get a point, move on. And there was something about
Speaker 3: I felt like it was like Caveman enjoyment, where it's
Speaker 3: like I'm not even having to try very hard. I'm
Speaker 3: just throwing something on a board, getting it, enjoying and leaving.
Speaker 3: When I got my first bulls eye, oh, I was shaking.
Speaker 2: Heaven on Earth. Wait a minute, So when you say
Speaker 2: that digital, do you hold something in your hand?
Speaker 3: Okay, so the best this is like a hybrid. So
Speaker 3: when I definitely ruined the magic, I got too close
Speaker 3: to the board just to see how it works. So
Speaker 3: it's a foam board and in the center is a
Speaker 3: real dart board, and projected onto the whole thing is
Speaker 3: the game. So like from far away, it looks like
Speaker 3: it's just an LCD screen led screen, but it's actually
Speaker 3: a dart board. Okay, Anyway, I don't even know how.
Speaker 3: So you are throwing a physical needle, but I don't
Speaker 3: know how the needle in the board what, I don't
Speaker 3: know how it's I don't know. I don't know it's
Speaker 3: a hybrid. It's not fully electronic. It just manages to
Speaker 3: capture your scores electronically.
Speaker 2: So it's not like you're throwing it like you're in
Speaker 2: we sports.
Speaker 3: No no, no, you're throwing a physical dart and it's
Speaker 3: hitting a physical board. I don't know. Anyway, it was
Speaker 3: just so sick, and I was with my best friend selling.
Speaker 3: We were like, why have we done the sinner? I
Speaker 3: was thinking as well, because I really want to host
Speaker 3: dinner parties this year, because I'm like, we need to
Speaker 3: be the girlies need to be social in a way
Speaker 3: that isn't just like oh there's an influencer event, we're
Speaker 3: all invited. Let's all go, like planning time out outside
Speaker 3: of work just to do something entertaining. And I would
Speaker 3: do darts.
Speaker 2: For sure, Let's do it.
Speaker 3: It was like competitive, hot, sexy, and you know how
Speaker 3: like you didn't have to like I want to play pool,
Speaker 3: My hand eye coordination won't let me.
Speaker 2: See it just goes on too long, does it really? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like it's fun if you want to do to flirt
Speaker 2: with someone, you're like, oh we're both yeah, and it
Speaker 2: goes places. I'm telling you what. Lots of solid relationships
Speaker 2: have started around billiard tables.
Speaker 3: Mate, I need to get involved.
Speaker 2: Pool tables really good for chats, but boring. If you
Speaker 2: want a fun time that has no sexual chemistry.
Speaker 3: Okay, and if not, I vote darts. Also, what I
Speaker 3: think would be really enjoyable is physical board games. Let's
Speaker 3: just get back into it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Monopoly is the right thing for us,
Speaker 3: but something with cards boards.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, really quickly. I've got a game called Carbo
Speaker 2: c aabo. Me and my girlfriends play it. We've had
Speaker 2: things in the week planned for the last three weeks.
Speaker 2: Every Thursday night gets to Thursday, we're just having dinner,
Speaker 2: no Carbo. But it's like everybody gets four cards and
Speaker 2: you've got to remember what your cards are, and like
Speaker 2: steal cards off other people.
Speaker 3: It's just see, this is what I'm talking about. This
Speaker 3: is what I want to Yes, you would love this.
Speaker 3: We play dates between our friends, meet up, play a game,
Speaker 3: go home to our window. That's it.
Speaker 2: Go anyway.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that. I really wish I could bottle
Speaker 3: up that feeling of enjoyment because I never I haven't
Speaker 3: felt this in a while. I was smiling. I'm cackling, smiling,
Speaker 3: no Geran public.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms on Kita.
Speaker 3: We have more news about the fate of the world.
Speaker 3: Did you know that single use plastics were banned on
Speaker 3: the first of June twenty twenty two in New South Wales.
Speaker 3: At the time, businesses were not able to give customers
Speaker 3: lightweight plastic bags or to have them in stock.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Now I'm thinking I'm not really out and about shopping
Speaker 3: as much to notice and anywhere that I would be
Speaker 3: shopping IRL is offering, you know, like a recycled plastic bag,
Speaker 3: a little thick one or something. I did notice that
Speaker 3: one of my favorite chicken shops in Sydney they started
Speaker 3: offering these real weighty usable bags and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's the branding exercise. I like, yes, but no it's illegal.
Speaker 2: Okay, two things.
Speaker 3: I'm not done, babe, there's more news. There's more news
Speaker 3: in addition to that, in New South Wales in November,
Speaker 3: single use plastics will be banned. So we've moved from
Speaker 3: lightweight being banned and now single use banned, so much
Speaker 3: so that the finds for an individual using buying single
Speaker 3: use plastic would be eleven k and the findes for
Speaker 3: a company fifty five k. Now, with all these topics,
Speaker 3: people like, well, how they're going to enforce it? How
Speaker 3: they're going to enforce it? Reminds you of COVID when
Speaker 3: businesses couldn't operate. Everyone's like, how are they going to
Speaker 3: enforce it? Not everyone's going to get fined, but just
Speaker 3: hope it's not. You do the right thing, but please,
Speaker 3: as you were.
Speaker 2: So, Woolies and Coals, When you get those plastic bags,
Speaker 2: the twenty cent ones, yeah, are they considered single use? No?
Speaker 3: Because they are made from recycled bags and they have
Speaker 3: this whole system by the way, so when you get
Speaker 3: those recycled thick plastic bags, they're made from previously recycled bags,
Speaker 3: and you can bring the old bags to the stores
Speaker 3: to get them re recycled, and they're made thix. They
Speaker 3: can be reused and reused again.
Speaker 2: Okay woolli's op.
Speaker 3: I don't I think it's coals?
Speaker 2: Actually? Okay, coals op curdistone's side piece getting on that
Speaker 2: Coal's money.
Speaker 3: Whatever it takes, babe. Some of us are serious. Some
Speaker 3: people don't want to work. Not me.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: I was on Reddit the other day. We are big
Speaker 2: Reddit hotties here at the Flex and Froom Show. And
Speaker 2: it came across this best of redditor updates. So it's
Speaker 2: basically it's his thread on Reddit where some of the
Speaker 2: best threads get put into a thread few to reap.
Speaker 3: Which is helpful because there's a lot of fodder on Reddit.
Speaker 3: If I was introducing someone to the platform for the
Speaker 3: first time, I would warn them to say, you kind
Speaker 3: of do have to work to get good posts. Not
Speaker 3: everything on there is worth consuming.
Speaker 2: Not at all, And it's just the ads. Like the
Speaker 2: whole platform is quite ugly. There are a lot of ads,
Speaker 2: but cool, Like I'm getting the knowledge that I want
Speaker 2: from this. I'm never feeling bad about being shit. It's
Speaker 2: very much a community bibe. Anyway, I came across this
Speaker 2: one and I want to do thoughts on it. The
Speaker 2: title is I got a fridge lock box and it's
Speaker 2: destroying my relationship.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 2: Some backgrounds. My boyfriend twenty eight and I twenty five
Speaker 2: have been together for five years and we've lived together
Speaker 2: for three. Our relationship is great, truly. We have a
Speaker 2: joint account we contribute to monthly and handle joint expenses
Speaker 2: such as rent, groceries, etc. Everything is split. My boyfriend
Speaker 2: is six foot three, two hundred lbs pounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like what ninety killers yeah.
Speaker 2: Ninety killers yeah, and works out daily. He eats a
Speaker 2: lot to keep up his coloric intake, which is fine
Speaker 2: except for this one issue. We buy snacks and he
Speaker 2: always eats my healf before I can even get to it.
Speaker 3: Hungry growing boy, normal.
Speaker 2: Friden ingredients he's fine with, but it is quickly accessible
Speaker 2: and I never get any. We argue, He apologizes, rinse,
Speaker 2: and repeat. This is literally the only bad thing he's done. Seriously,
Speaker 2: all other aspects of our relationship are respectful and considerate.
Speaker 2: Snacks away, all bets are off. Wow. Anyways, last week
Speaker 2: I lost it after he finished an expensive cheese we'd
Speaker 2: gotten that I was really looking forward to eating. It
Speaker 2: was gone after an hour. I lost my shit. I
Speaker 2: didn't speak to him all day and ended up ordering
Speaker 2: a fridge lockbox and our next snack run. A couple
Speaker 2: of days later, I divided each snack in half and
Speaker 2: locked mine in a lockbox.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: From his reaction, you think I was murdering. He said,
Speaker 2: it's disrespectful. And controlling and how dare I keep food
Speaker 2: from him? Whoa that I paid for? Four days later,
Speaker 2: I broke and asked him to please talk about it,
Speaker 2: and he just said he's completely appalled by the reaction.
Speaker 2: But I said, I'm not getting rid of the lockbox.
Speaker 2: Who's the wrong?
Speaker 3: This is controversial. I feel like off the dome. This
Speaker 3: is not where I thought it was going to go.
Speaker 3: And his reaction is surprising me because up until the
Speaker 3: snack issues, like you have a perfect relationship, there's nothing wrong. Ever,
Speaker 3: what is the real issue here? I think, Look, you
Speaker 3: gave him a chance to show you that he can
Speaker 3: exercise some restraint when it comes to snacks, and he couldn't.
Speaker 2: I relate to this man. I'm not gonna lie. I
Speaker 2: feel him. Yeah, I mean what he has to do, sorry,
Speaker 2: what she has to do. Something that I did in
Speaker 2: a prior life was collect all your little snacks, get
Speaker 2: a little box, hide the snacks under your bed or
Speaker 2: in my room. I had like a Paul frank backpack.
Speaker 2: I just stash all my little single serve snacks in
Speaker 2: the eggs.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to share the single serve?
Speaker 2: Are we doing? Single serves? A snack based little snacky.
Speaker 2: So I think she's totally to come to that.
Speaker 3: In your own house, you paid your own money, now
Speaker 3: you have to hide food. I think the lock box
Speaker 3: in a fridge is a really beautifully passive aggressive way
Speaker 3: to say, hey, because you can't manage yourself, this is
Speaker 3: what we have to do. You know, it's very childlike
Speaker 3: and jobbless for us to be doing this, and yet
Speaker 3: he we are. I would say, if the lock box
Speaker 3: in the fridge is causing too much tension in a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks, I would definitely say up the snack budget.
Speaker 3: You no get more than you think you need, and
Speaker 3: there's more to go around and then less to lose
Speaker 3: that you just say more because these people work. Because
Speaker 3: you have mentioned that he is six foot three, almost
Speaker 3: one hundred kilos, works out every day, needs a lot
Speaker 3: to sustain him, and you are not that So buying
Speaker 3: snacks and sharing them fifty to fifty doesn't really seem realistic.
Speaker 3: So maybe he needs his own box of snacks and
Speaker 3: you need your own box, and then if you can,
Speaker 3: you can come to your side pick a little extra.
Speaker 3: But going half and half on a six pack of
Speaker 3: musley bars isn't sane.
Speaker 2: What about those lcms, damn, or.
Speaker 3: Start getting family sizes. Get yourself to Costco. Get those
Speaker 3: family sized bulk packs, you know, the forty packs lcms,
Speaker 3: the forty packs of whatever, the big packs of you know,
Speaker 3: snacky chips. Don't go to your local grocery store. You
Speaker 3: don't have the budget for that. Go to bulk buy cool.
Speaker 2: I've never been to a Costco. I've always been.
Speaker 3: Curious about Really, Yeah, we must go. A membership has expired, though,
Speaker 3: so you have to get one.
Speaker 1: You're listening to flex and frooms on cats.
Speaker 2: Don't think it's so funny that the traditional media has
Speaker 2: such an obsession with influencers. Yeah, for some reason, it's
Speaker 2: quite impossible to bridge the gap between talking about influencers
Speaker 2: and the actuality of influencers themselves and what they do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think influencers very rarely control their own narrative.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of like mystical information about like what
Speaker 3: they do and how much do they get paid, what
Speaker 3: it's really like coming from someone who hasn't even stepped
Speaker 3: foot in the shoes of an influencer as well.
Speaker 2: I think it's because traditional media outlets and the people
Speaker 2: that work at traditional media outlets essentially were influencers in
Speaker 2: the olden times, they're choosing what gets published, they're like figures,
Speaker 2: whereas now they're seeing all these other people creating their
Speaker 2: own platforms. And it's difficult to talk about influencers because
Speaker 2: you never know again the like Internet literacy of the
Speaker 2: people that are reading it. So you've got someone who's
Speaker 2: sixty reading about influencers, like with all these preconceived notions.
Speaker 2: That's a total generalization of age. Apologies, but you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But the other thing I find really interesting as
Speaker 3: well is that talking about influencers, public figures, celebrities, whatever,
Speaker 3: there was a point in time where all those people
Speaker 3: were in cahoots with the media, write planting stories, selling information,
Speaker 3: really making sure they were co creating the narrative. And
Speaker 3: it feels like modern day journalists are so almost like
Speaker 3: gate kept from the reality of influencers stuff that they
Speaker 3: have to kind of talk around it or create value
Speaker 3: of their perspective talking about it because they don't have
Speaker 3: access like they used to.
Speaker 2: Curious, I know a few that have good inns. I
Speaker 2: can't remember the guys in the.
Speaker 3: Same way that, like, you know, if I wanted to
Speaker 3: pitch a story about me and my new boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I could easily work with a publication twenty years ago
Speaker 3: and say, hey, like, should do a cover story, should
Speaker 3: we do a little feature, should we do whatever it
Speaker 3: might be, It's not the way it would work with
Speaker 3: the traditional influencer who wants to plug something. You can't
Speaker 3: be like I've got a new apparel line dropping and
Speaker 3: DM your favorite journalist because you probably hate them all
Speaker 3: because they've talked shit about you.
Speaker 2: That's really know you've made it. I came across this
Speaker 2: article in the os which is like an offshoot of
Speaker 2: the Australian newspaper. I've never been in a reader of
Speaker 2: the Australian. Doesn't quite align with me not saying I
Speaker 2: wouldn't in the.
Speaker 3: Future any morning, Harold go on, you through went through?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no deviation. And they wrote this article that
Speaker 2: apparently more than half of gen Z Australians that's fifty
Speaker 2: five percent say they would leave their job to become
Speaker 2: an influencer if they had the chance. And this is
Speaker 2: research to come out of the Behavioral Architects, which was
Speaker 2: commissioned by the os SO. Just to make that clear,
Speaker 2: the ODS have commissioned to study to figure out about influencers.
Speaker 2: So is this study valid? Throwing my hands in the air,
Speaker 2: but they say that. They also said that gen Z
Speaker 2: females fifty six percent in particular would say they would
Speaker 2: ditch their current career for that, as opposed to thirty
Speaker 2: nine percent of millennial women. Overall, men are pulled to
Speaker 2: a career of content creation fifty three percent more than
Speaker 2: women forty four percent. Wow, And I think.
Speaker 3: Isn't that very interesting? Because when people observe the influencer
Speaker 3: content creation landscape, it's overly feminized. Everyone's like, oh, those
Speaker 3: those influencers, jobless people. But look at that more men
Speaker 3: pulled to content creation than women. Can we see how
Speaker 3: many people actually surveyed for this?
Speaker 2: So apparently they interviewed or surveyed two thousand Australians.
Speaker 3: Now we have to be mindful which two thousand did
Speaker 3: you survey? The two thousand living in Sydney's like Sydney City,
Speaker 3: two thousand across the whole of Australia. For context, I'll
Speaker 3: do a smash or pass my Instagram story on Monday,
Speaker 3: get eight thousand people weigh in say it's just being realistic.
Speaker 3: But the stats are stats in either way. Of two
Speaker 3: thousand people, half are saying that they would willingly quit
Speaker 3: their jobs to become an influencer, which I think is
Speaker 3: fascinating considering all the contempt for the industry and people
Speaker 3: who make up the industry as well.
Speaker 2: It's what are your initial thoughts.
Speaker 3: My initial thoughts is that it's really unsurprising. I feel
Speaker 3: as though whether or not you respect what influencers do,
Speaker 3: something about being able to presumably get paid, to be yourself,
Speaker 3: get given free things, take pretty pictures, not really quote
Speaker 3: unquote work for a living. Why would that not be enticing.
Speaker 3: I think it's really hard to see the reality of
Speaker 3: what running an actual influencer business is like, as in,
Speaker 3: this is your business, you'ret an ABN, you're incorporated, or
Speaker 3: you're a company. You pay your bass, you pay your tax,
Speaker 3: you pay that's a little bit different, and nobody's seeing that.
Speaker 3: So it's not it's not not enticing people, But I
Speaker 3: think of what it looks like, it would be better
Speaker 3: than I don't know, working in insert career path here.
Speaker 3: What do you reckon when you're surprised by that?
Speaker 2: Not at all. I think the tide is turning where
Speaker 2: influencer isn't become a dirty word. And now the next generation,
Speaker 2: which is the generation that media sites and stuff, always
Speaker 2: fascinated with media, so that's always fascinated with the next generation,
Speaker 2: and in my opinion, they don't think influences are a
Speaker 2: dirty word. They've grown up with it, and yeah, see
Speaker 2: it as a viable career path because it is.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent is. But I also feel as though,
Speaker 3: not that not that the career path is dead or
Speaker 3: that there's not enough space for everyone, but you know,
Speaker 3: when you have the Kardashians and people of that stature
Speaker 3: talking about how these platforms are even hard for them
Speaker 3: to exist on because they can't monetize it like they
Speaker 3: usually did, or they're posts aren't reaching people in the
Speaker 3: way they usually would. It's becoming a much harder landscape
Speaker 3: to exist on algorithmically, not even just culturally, socially creatively,
Speaker 3: just algorithmically. Too many people get to be publishers totally.
Speaker 2: Covid was the big boom. Yeah, seeing us little creators
Speaker 2: doing something different, I think not cis.
Speaker 3: We will have the jobs now want to come around.
Speaker 3: Also in terms of that though, I think that the
Speaker 3: marketplace is so saturated in a way that isn't to
Speaker 3: the benefit of new people trying to enter. Because it's
Speaker 3: a saturated marketplace, it's very unclear what an influencer actually does.
Speaker 3: It's very unclear how to make consistent money from doing
Speaker 3: the job as well. And also it's very competitive because
Speaker 3: you're not just competing against your peers right of other influencers,
Speaker 3: it's every single person who publishes stuff on the internet totally.
Speaker 2: And it's something that clicks that I've been thinking about
Speaker 2: this a lot lately is in terms of money and
Speaker 2: brands paying you. Often, I'm like, wait, why are people
Speaker 2: doing TVCs, Like you should just be throwing all that
Speaker 2: money behind influencers, because I've seen brands that do it.
Speaker 2: A great example is go to skincare. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if they do traditional advertising. I know I got served
Speaker 2: on the other day, I think on YouTube that was
Speaker 2: like this girl gamer and how she uses Mecca, No
Speaker 2: you're not making sorry, how she uses go to And
Speaker 2: I was like, that's so genius. I see all the
Speaker 2: research in this one ad because I can't relate to gamers,
Speaker 2: but I see what you get here.
Speaker 3: That's what you're doing, and I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: But then I was thinking, of course, still in the
Speaker 2: traditional landscape, the people that are making the decisions. You
Speaker 2: have budgets that go to radio, that go to this,
Speaker 2: to go to that, and often the influencer is the afterthought.
Speaker 2: And whether or not that's for better or for worse,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Another example would be Frank Body created
Speaker 2: a multimillion dollar business to soft coffee scrubs and women
Speaker 2: posting themselves nude in the shower, like we've seen this.
Speaker 2: We've seen this happen for like ten years. It's pretty
Speaker 2: incredible how it's only just now kind of being fully
Speaker 2: understood of how powerful it is.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent I mean. And when I talk about influencers,
Speaker 3: let's just say caveat good influences, whatever that means to you,
Speaker 3: whether it means they're really engaging greater community building, make
Speaker 3: great content that too. We're speaking about not the person
Speaker 3: you're thinking about in your head that you hate.
Speaker 2: Okay, distinction because even I like I have, I have
Speaker 2: so many preconceived ideas about lots of different people, particularly
Speaker 2: people that I'm in the same cohort as, like these
Speaker 2: are my people.
Speaker 3: As you're looking in the mirror pointing at yourself.
Speaker 2: That's disgusting, you know what I mean? And I even
Speaker 2: get that with influences, I'm like, oh, I still in
Speaker 2: the back of my mind have that little grimace, like
Speaker 2: wait a minute, these are our peers, just like me.
Speaker 3: While I think that people are still aspiring to be
Speaker 3: an influencer, I think that not even influencers are aspiring
Speaker 3: to maintain having influence, because you'll come to this, and
Speaker 3: I when I quiz my peers, I recognize everyone comes
Speaker 3: to this point where they say, what kind of money
Speaker 3: is enough to sell my likeness, to sell my face,
Speaker 3: to sell my thoughts, to sell my culture, to my identity.
Speaker 3: And if that's the case, then there's a price that
Speaker 3: can be allocated. Why would that Why would you not
Speaker 3: just sell it for your own benefit, not for some
Speaker 3: random corporation. He's like, we just want a bitter you
Speaker 3: bit of flavor. So I was gonna use your likeness
Speaker 3: to make your own thing exactly a podcast whatever that
Speaker 3: looks like. Is it an only fans? Is it, you know,
Speaker 3: a clothing line? Is it a course? Something that is
Speaker 3: made by you for you to your audience? And that
Speaker 3: is like the circular economy there not letting any other
Speaker 3: brand extract value from you so much so that you
Speaker 3: don't have a quiet time to be creative and figure
Speaker 3: out how to use your own skills for your own benefit.
Speaker 2: But we'll leave it there. Mine is a book exactly
Speaker 2: it's going to be coming out eighteen months. I'm going
Speaker 2: to put a time on it. Havn't started putting it
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 3: Believe in you, flex and.
Speaker 2: The apocalypse is coming. Oh, if you listen to this show,
Speaker 2: you'll agree. I say that in jest because I don't
Speaker 2: believe the apocalypse. Believe it.
Speaker 3: My propaganda's working.
Speaker 2: The thing is like, when I think of the apocalypse,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of that movie where the like massive tsunami
Speaker 2: roages through the city and there's bedlam, and it goes
Speaker 2: on every day too, and then it's over. That's how
Speaker 2: I'm seeing the apocalypse, when in reality, it's creeping up
Speaker 2: all around us. The latest victim of the apocalypse that
Speaker 2: we are currently living in is chicken. Yeah. Apparently I
Speaker 2: was reading in Citny Morning, how Old as I Do.
Speaker 2: Woolies is working to balance prices as consumers start to
Speaker 2: trade down. Apparently people are getting beef over chicken. Ha.
Speaker 3: Well, we did talk last week about the Ingham family.
Speaker 3: I don't know if their actual ingoms involved in the Ingham.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the family very well.
Speaker 3: But they said that last financial year it cost them
Speaker 3: forty six million dollars to feed the chickens, and that
Speaker 3: is far too expensive what it usually costs. Now, what
Speaker 3: is usually cost? I don't know, haven't done their profit
Speaker 3: and lost statement, but they've disclosed that generally they would
Speaker 3: cover the cost or subsidize it. They're not doing that
Speaker 3: this year. It said fend for yourselves.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they clearly obviously they're trying to like
Speaker 2: make the balance sheet look better.
Speaker 3: So everyone's eating beef.
Speaker 2: Apparently everyone is eating beef. I read this article and
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know how I'm going to
Speaker 2: incorporate this on the show. So I asked our producer
Speaker 2: Brook and she said, apparently in the apocalypse, the people
Speaker 2: that are going to come up on top are the
Speaker 2: vegans hundred percent. Explain this, Brook, Well, it's just a
Speaker 2: lot easier to have, like you can forage for like mushrooms,
Speaker 2: you can cook like I guess the veggies in your garden.
Speaker 2: Where are you gonna have to run out and chase
Speaker 2: a cow?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's the lifestyle as well. Like, I think
Speaker 3: what a lot of meat eaters will struggle with in
Speaker 3: the apocalypse is the fact that your lifestyle isn't accommodating
Speaker 3: for the food you want to eat. Like you said,
Speaker 3: meat eaters aren't gonna be chasing cows and chickens to
Speaker 3: eat that meat. They need the grocery stores and the
Speaker 3: abatis to provide, whereas a vegan can actually be self
Speaker 3: sufficient and self sustaining.
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn well, chout out to vegans.
Speaker 3: Shout out to vegans.
Speaker 2: You are steering the ship. Meanwhile, I reckon after this,
Speaker 2: I want to be at Macas for dinner. I'm also
Speaker 2: wearing a Maca's hat no spoon.
Speaker 3: If I become a vegan before you do, how hilarious
Speaker 3: I feel it coming. Like thirty five minutes you've.
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