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Speaker 1: a rash or just can't people listening to them blather

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Speaker 1: on for half an hour. The events of nine to

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Speaker 1: eleven September the eleventh, two thousand and one were easily

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Speaker 1: some of the most visceral that anyone who was living

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Speaker 1: at that time has extraordinary day in all sorts of ways,

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Speaker 1: had far reaching consequences politically, militarily, psychologically. But that was

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Speaker 1: just for the people that watched it. For the people

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Speaker 1: that lived it, I actually have no words for what

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Speaker 1: that could be like. We actually have a guy who does, though.

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Speaker 1: Hans Konnin joins us right now. He's a survivor of

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Speaker 1: what happened on September eleven in New York. We want

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Speaker 1: to go lib right now and show you a picture

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Speaker 1: of the World Trade.

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Speaker 2: Center as of yet unconfirmed that a plane has hit

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Speaker 2: of the World Trade Center. There was a loud sound

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Speaker 2: that remember, oh my god, that looks like a second plane.

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Speaker 3: And I saw the plane have another one.

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Speaker 1: Another plane had hit.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, another plane has just hit another building.

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Speaker 1: Hans, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Gooday, guys and John, and.

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Speaker 4: Tell everyone where exactly were you or what was your

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Speaker 4: experience with what happened in.

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Speaker 2: The Okay, you know the two towers right between them

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Speaker 2: is the World Trade Center number three building, the Marriott Hotel,

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Speaker 2: having breakfast myne own business, listening to a guy stick

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Speaker 2: But we were shunted out of the building. You didn't

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Speaker 3: What's happening?

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Speaker 1: So you're still trying to conceptualize what could have happened, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because the last thing you're thinking is it's going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, that that doesn't happen. That happens in

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Speaker 2: movies and stuff, but not not in my life. My boy,

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Speaker 2: it's what you're doing plane? Yeah, the second one's coming,

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Speaker 2: and it's coming, and it's coming, and it's coming. It's

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Speaker 2: right over your head. It banked. The noise if you've

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Speaker 2: been on an airport, was into an aeroplane takeoff, but it was.

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Speaker 2: It shrieked as it accelerated into the building and just

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Speaker 2: there's pandemonia. Then, because you know, this ain't no accident.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I was going to ask you that hands because

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Speaker 1: He Yeah, it's totally divorced from it. And then when

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Speaker 2: Planes don't planes don't get that lost, Planes don't get

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Speaker 1: The story we're at the second plane has hit, which

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Speaker 2: So I got to get out of here. There could

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Speaker 4: So and Hans, did you did you sort of team

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Speaker 4: And you're just there's not a time.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anybody there on my own, and I've

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Speaker 2: People said what's it like, I said, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The noise is just like shells landing, you know, in

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Speaker 2: that's when something really fantastic happened.

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Speaker 3: What happened, Hans Well, half an hour.

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Speaker 2: Ago, forty minutes ago. You've seen the evil and it's worst.

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Speaker 2: It's been horrible. You've seen death, and then time passes.

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Speaker 3: So you do you still talk to her hands?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we're your email a fair bit, you know,

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Speaker 2: but just been hit by Herrick and Ida. Yeah. Leslie

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Speaker 2: gets a bit unsettled by nine to eleven. Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: she knew people have died and a lot of those

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Speaker 2: firefighters from Stanton Haaven heroes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, heroes, that's.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, Leslie, Leslie and her husband Rod and

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Speaker 2: little but John took me in. You've got to appreciate

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Speaker 2: my wife is watching this on television, guys, you know

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Speaker 2: Suzanne hours she describes as the worst, a couple of

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Speaker 1: Of course, because the mobile phones weren't a thing like

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Speaker 2: Phones who weren't working. It's all busy, it's all busy.

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Speaker 1: So she was at home for three hours by herself

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, the good you know, there's there's there's

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Speaker 2: good comes out of these things. Folk had heard, you

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Speaker 2: sat with Suzanne just to help us stay came and connected.

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Speaker 2: You know, you've got you've gotta have, You've got to

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Speaker 2: be a friend like that. You hear this stuff is happening,

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Speaker 2: Get out of it. You know, it's eleven o'clock at

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Speaker 2: night by now, come on around. They drove fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 3: Wow, it was.

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Speaker 2: That's just good. That's just that's to be a friend.

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Speaker 1: That's what strikes me about your story, Hands is there's

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Speaker 1: so much human hope laced through that story and the

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Speaker 1: humanity of everyone looking after each other, and that city

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Speaker 1: picking itself up afterwards, and even just your wife's friends

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Speaker 1: getting around you. It's it's silver lining to all those tragedies,

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Speaker 1: is just how absolutely how well people can respond when

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Speaker 1: when when faced with adversity together be kind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Nice reminder during a during a pandemic, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: You know, and you know I'm not going to.

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Speaker 4: Compare coronavirus to nine to eleven, but it's a nice

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Speaker 4: reminder to go, hey, be kind to each other. And

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and thank you so much for sharing the story mate.

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Speaker 2: That was that's okay, that's okay. It ends well, you know,

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Speaker 2: it ends well, but for a lot of families it's

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Speaker 2: still cooler. But you know, they just said, rich out

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Speaker 2: be kind. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: What a great reminder that things can be a lot

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Speaker 1: worse than they are. They always can be, So enjoy

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Speaker 1: what you have right now, Hans, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: That was okay.

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Speaker 1: Guys, hear more of the boys on the Full Show podcast.

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