1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: This is gem Nation with Jonesy and land Well. This 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Saturday morning sunrise at Bondai Beach is going to look 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: a little different. Over two thousand people will be stripping 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: off and getting photographed in the name of skin cancer research. 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: The man behind the lens is with us now, a 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: world renowned photographer and contemporary artist, Spencer Tunic. 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: Hello, how are you. 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: We're really well, it's so nice to talk to you. 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: We've been talking about this all morning. One of our producers, Kate, 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: is going to be joining you on Saturday. I was 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: intrigued to hear that no one can just buy the pictures. 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: You have to be in the experience to be able 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 1: to have the photograph. 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: Everyone who participates. It's been my tradition for the organization 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: commissioning me to give them a photograph in exchange for participating, 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: so everyone gets something they can hang in their bathrooms, 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: hopefully not in the main room, of course, we don't 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: want to fand the guests. 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: What kind of stories have people told you over the 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: years about what that experience has meant to them, had 21 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: couples that have made it at these experiences? What have 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: you heard? 23 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: Yes, there are children because of my naked works. You know, 24 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: of course they weren't conceived at my work, but yes, 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: they're like anything that's a group events. There are people 26 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: that are meet but you know, you get to meet 27 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: someone and see what they're like house I first I 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: guess and then decide, you know, if you're going to 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: continue that relationship based on personality. 30 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: How did you get started doing this? 31 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: I when I was in college, I took a photography 32 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: class and I just fell in love with the medium. 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: And before you knew it, I had a girlfriend that 34 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: was willing to pose for me, and I took some 35 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: very nice photographs of her in front of some radiator 36 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: with like coming black and white was like coming through 37 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: the window. And so I'm just lucky to have someone 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: that believed in my work early on, that was comfortable 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: with their body. 40 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: And then did you say, honey, why don't we get 41 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: some more people in on this? Was it like that? 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: Okay? Then I moved to New York and went to 43 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 2: the International Center of Photography and decided that I liked 44 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: artists that work with performance and documented their performances with photography, 45 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: like Ka Lei Shneman and Yayo Kusama, and so I 46 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: sort of really got into their work and decided, well, 47 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: maybe I'll hit the streets of New York and photographed 48 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: people in public spaces. 49 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: Because one of the things we're also talking about today 50 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: is it in our culture we don't see other naked 51 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: bodies unless it's in a sexual or pornographic context. We'd 52 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: be much healthier about our own body image if we 53 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: saw more nude bodies, I think, right. 54 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 2: I always think that it's important to have a presence 55 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: of the body in art as opposed to not so 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: much for pornography. Associating the nude art with putting it 57 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: in that pocket is difficult for artists to really survive, 58 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: especially like on social media platforms like Instagram and which 59 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 2: treat they treat nude art photography as pornography. 60 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 3: They do too. 61 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: How does the day work? All the logistics? Do you 62 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: have a big loudhailer and you go, hey, are you 63 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: third to the left? No, not you, the person behind you? 64 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: How do you wrangle it all? 65 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: Well, the most big difficult place to work is on 66 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: a beach because the surf. You forget that the surf 67 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: is so loud, and so we try to get people 68 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: to follow what people are doing in front of them. 69 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: And because if you can't hear me that that's the 70 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: most important thing to do. So if someone decide to 71 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: near me, decide to lie on their back looking up 72 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: into the the sky with their hands by their side, 73 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: if you see that person doing that, that's what you 74 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: should be doing. 75 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: Right. So they're all getting it right. 76 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: You need a mega fine, don't you. 77 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: It sounds a on a megaphone, but those don't always work, 78 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: you know on the beach with like twenty foot waves. 79 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know you're doing it very early in 80 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: the morning. Is this to stop any you know, unsavory 81 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: types coming down to. 82 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: Have a look? 83 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: Right? It's it's a crowded beach in the afternoon. So 84 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: I like to not have too many distractions, and so 85 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: we try to work as early as possible, even before 86 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: the sun comes up over the horizons. With these new 87 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: digital cameras can capture a lot of light, and so 88 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: we take advantage of that. 89 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: I wonder if there's any people who then go to 90 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: leave and someone's taken their clothes and you have how 91 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: do you get home? 92 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 93 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: Does that work? 94 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Still? 95 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: No one's ever taken anyone's clothes, but one person in 96 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: the media once couldn't find their clothing. 97 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: Oh God, sounds like a man, I've lost my clothes again. 98 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: What a shame? 99 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: Well, Spencer, this is this is great strip off of 100 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 3: skin Cancer with Spencer Tuny. Register at Spencer tune dot com. 101 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: I dare say, a bondo, bitch. You're not going to 102 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: have many people. There's not a lot of there's a 103 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: lot of look at. 104 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: Me people there, so we need we definitely need more 105 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: people signing up. We should for an important cast. 106 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 3: We should get a little squad of our own people 107 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: and maybe get them in little you know, the jonesy 108 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: amount of robes that we have. 109 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: Actually, that's exactly what we should do. We will recruit 110 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: some people for you. Because you have to register, don't. 111 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: You can't just turn up and be in. 112 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: It, right, You should register. It's really quick and you'll 113 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: get an email right back with all the instructions of 114 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: what to bring and what not to bring. And yeah, 115 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: it's really a simple registration and. 116 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 3: Don't forget your camera. 117 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: Don't forget your camera. And body hair is allowed and encouraged. 118 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: Yes, the more the better. 119 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: I'm a great want to be about Spencer Tunic. 120 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Spencer. 121 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: Well, all right, Thank you so much, everyone, thank you