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<v Speaker 1>Hi Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen

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<v Speaker 1>live on the Free iHeart app A good pickup with

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<v Speaker 1>Britt Hockley and Laura burn Bady.

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<v Speaker 2>Your work, our windows done.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my world.

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<v Speaker 2>Reason the dust, only good tabs are all down.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't much, but yet I'm not our big get

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<v Speaker 3>and what I want it don't matter where goes.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the pickup.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, it's the pickup with Britt Harkley and Laura

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<v Speaker 1>Brn Britt, have you noticed how nice it is driving

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<v Speaker 1>to work in the mornings.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no traffic, yes, and no one parking near the school.

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<v Speaker 2>We park up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well we can get all day parking now because

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<v Speaker 1>the school there's no parent traffic. But also for everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're all surviving school holidays. I had this

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<v Speaker 1>realization only this morning, and that is that so growing

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<v Speaker 1>up my mum she's a school teacher, right, and so

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<v Speaker 1>every school holidays we were all just home together, family

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<v Speaker 1>doing stuff. My realization is is that for most kids

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not the case because if you have working parents, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta go to after school care or holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>Care or whatever. And my six year old Marley, she's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cottoned onto it. This morning, she woke up

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<v Speaker 1>and she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, wait a second, it's meant to be school holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't I even get a holiday? Why am I

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<v Speaker 2>going to vacation care? And I realized just how rough

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<v Speaker 2>it is for some kids. You're like, you spoil little

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, how dare you? M's gotta work.

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<v Speaker 5>If my parents both worked, there are four of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Where did you go?

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<v Speaker 3>I think we just got like shipped out. I think

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<v Speaker 3>we had to go to different friends' houses, nana's house. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because we didn't even really have a vacation care like

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<v Speaker 3>we're at in Port Macquarry, and it was more like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think sometimes went to an auntie's house, or we'd

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<v Speaker 3>all go to a friend's house until my older brothers

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<v Speaker 3>were old enough, and then they would stay home and

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<v Speaker 3>look after.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's changed now because kids can go to like a

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<v Speaker 1>school holiday program, a soccer programer whatever. There's like so

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<v Speaker 1>many different activities that did not exist in the eighties

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<v Speaker 1>and the nineties.

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<v Speaker 5>And was like ride your bikeer, but be home by

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<v Speaker 5>so when the sun's setting, buck twice if you need her.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like, we just been for ourselves. I

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<v Speaker 5>know we've been speaking a lot about weddings lately, but

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<v Speaker 5>we are going to continue that now.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Bethany Frankel the Real Housewives of New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yep, I do. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>She's just come out and admitted to making like a

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<v Speaker 3>huge faux pas around one of her friend's weddings, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's got people talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I was today years old when I realized for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time that.

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<v Speaker 2>I wore a wait to my best friend's wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>I never knew that rule.

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<v Speaker 2>So I texted her today. She's on safari in Africa.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I just realized for the first time I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard that I wore a wait to wedding. She goes,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't care what you were wearing. I was just

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<v Speaker 2>happy you were there. I'm so embarrassed. Okay, firstly, she's

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<v Speaker 2>talking like a creep.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, what I'm getting from this is that the wedding

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<v Speaker 1>must have been a long time ago. There's no way

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<v Speaker 1>that she's through life not knowing you can't wear white

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<v Speaker 1>to a wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was when she was twenty five, so it

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<v Speaker 3>was a long time ago. But also at twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>I know that there are all these rules around what

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<v Speaker 3>you can and can't wear to a wedding.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, I don't know if I believe in all of.

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<v Speaker 3>Them, but I feel like the one rule that everyone

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<v Speaker 3>knows is like, you don't wear white to a wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>But the reason she was even thinking about this, it

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<v Speaker 3>was based off the back of the Jeff Bezos's recent wedding.

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<v Speaker 5>You know how everyone in Hollywood just went to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Kylie Jenner apparently was wearing like an icy blue dress.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I didn't realize this, but when you wear icy

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<v Speaker 3>blue sometimes when it's photographed, it looks white. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>a picture here it does look like Kylie Jenner is

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<v Speaker 3>wearing a white dress.

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<v Speaker 5>I do think it's something should do.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine Kylie Jenner coming to your wedding and wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>very distinctly white dress.

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<v Speaker 5>Like she looks so hot too, of all things.

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<v Speaker 1>You could wear, I mean, I think that this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that comes up a lot, Brittany, at your wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>One of our very close friends, Keisha, she wore a

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<v Speaker 1>baby pink dress and it wasn't until when the photos

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<v Speaker 1>were getting taken on the day that she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, the photos make my dress look white

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<v Speaker 1>like she was.

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<v Speaker 2>She looked very white.

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<v Speaker 1>I also went to a friend's wedding where the sister

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<v Speaker 1>in law was wearing a sparkly silver dress which shot

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<v Speaker 1>like a wedding dress. And so when the bride and

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<v Speaker 1>the sister in law were dancing on the dance floor

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<v Speaker 1>and the videos came out, literally every comment in the

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<v Speaker 1>comment section was like, oh my god, that person wore

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<v Speaker 1>a wedding dress.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, now there's all this kickoff about like what not

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<v Speaker 3>to wear to a wedding, and I want to read

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<v Speaker 3>you a few of them.

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<v Speaker 5>Number one, very obvious white or whitish colors.

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<v Speaker 3>Like champagne, very pale, pale blues or pinks, because they

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<v Speaker 3>can shoot white.

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<v Speaker 2>Pastels just to avoid Hey, well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mind a pastel color, but it's not your

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<v Speaker 3>fault if your dress shoots white when it's not. But

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<v Speaker 3>I guess if it's so pale, like you read between

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<v Speaker 3>the lines now, bridal party colors is number two. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think it's a big issue. If someone turns up

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<v Speaker 3>in the same color that's me. Maybe I'm too laid back,

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<v Speaker 3>they say that off you can tell from the color

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<v Speaker 3>scheme of a wedding invitation, but I don't believe in that.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of wedding in whites are online. I did

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<v Speaker 3>not put a wedding like a bridesmaid color on my invitation.

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<v Speaker 1>And for reference, Britt, your bridesmaid color was yellow and

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<v Speaker 1>produce a grace almost came in a butter yellow dress.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah so close. I'm so glad that you told me

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<v Speaker 2>before the wedding that I actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Went to my friend Eleanor's wedding Elena, she was on

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<v Speaker 3>The Bachelor years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what made me do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I had this beautiful green dress on that was very particular.

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<v Speaker 3>I had pleats and it was my sister's bridesmaid's dress,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, oh, I'll wear that again because

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<v Speaker 3>I've never worn it.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it like bright bright green? Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very specific green and I'd only ever worn it once.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a beautiful dress, and I was like, I'll wear that.

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<v Speaker 3>Last minute, I got changed because I thought it was

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<v Speaker 3>a bit cold. Anyway, I turned up and they had

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<v Speaker 3>the identical dress on. I would have been in the

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<v Speaker 3>Bridesmaids show. I've done this though.

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<v Speaker 1>No, look I mean in defensive people who have rocked

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<v Speaker 1>up wearing a bridal party dress. The reason why is

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of brides, especially in Australia, they all

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<v Speaker 1>use the same brand, because there's a couple of specific

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<v Speaker 1>brands that make life the same dresses but in the

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<v Speaker 1>same colors, like Shown a Joy for example. Anyone who's

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<v Speaker 1>ever gotten married knows that bridesmaid dresses Shown a Joy

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<v Speaker 1>got you covered. And I went to a wedding wearing

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<v Speaker 1>Shown a Joy pinky colored dress, and so did the bridesmaids.

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<v Speaker 2>Not my fault, Well the are the ones. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how I feel about this black. Some

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<v Speaker 3>people are saying black sholdey just be a sign of morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I had so many people in a black dress at

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<v Speaker 3>my wedding. I gave my friend a dressed wedd a

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<v Speaker 3>wedding this week there was black. Now this is the

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<v Speaker 3>real kicker, and I feel personally attacked. I recently went

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<v Speaker 3>to a red wedding, like a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and I wore bright red.

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<v Speaker 5>Now I didn't know, but apparently.

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<v Speaker 3>Bright red means you're either trying to upstage the bride

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<v Speaker 3>or that you've slept with the groom. Like that's an

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<v Speaker 3>old wives tale, and I actually feel mortified now because

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<v Speaker 3>it was a European wedding, and I'm like, did I

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<v Speaker 3>make a statement to the entire wedding that I have

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<v Speaker 3>slept with a bride?

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<v Speaker 2>You slept with the bride, I mean the groom?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, to be clear, To be clear, I didn't sleep

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<v Speaker 3>with either of them, Like on the record.

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<v Speaker 2>Do people care this much?

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<v Speaker 5>That the real question I have?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you know that some people have strict dress codes.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that some people are like, don't wear sequence

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<v Speaker 1>and don't wear this, so long as you don't rock

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<v Speaker 1>up to someone's wedding wearing a pair of jeans.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like ninety percent of this is stupid. It is,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if it's your good friend or I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Know what it's not. It's just so dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, I don't remember what people would to my wedding. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>if there's fifty sixty eighty one hundred people at your wedding,

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<v Speaker 3>the last thing that you were thinking about is look

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<v Speaker 3>well for me is looking around at every guest and

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<v Speaker 3>clocking and judging what they're wearing. I almost wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>able to recall what half of you guys, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd have you did have one rule on your wedding

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<v Speaker 1>invite that was no patterns. And I saw an auntie

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<v Speaker 1>or someone rock up in a dark blue and white

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<v Speaker 1>patterned floral shirt and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Was like, oh, that's your eyes. Some people didn't get

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<v Speaker 5>the memo. The AUNTI is din't get the memo. That's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>I let that one slide.

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<v Speaker 2>Grit. I know I've talked about it a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>times on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I probably should keep it to myself because look,

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<v Speaker 1>it's personal, that's slightly embarrassing, but also maybe women should

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is that my pelvic floor has.

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<v Speaker 1>Been shot to well pieces, Yeah, it's been shot to pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>It's left the chat here.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I just if I surprise sneeze or surprise

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<v Speaker 1>laugh or something kids me and I find I have

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<v Speaker 1>a good.

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<v Speaker 2>Gig, or just walk or I try and do a

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<v Speaker 2>box jump.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you, I will wet my pants in

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<v Speaker 1>a spectacular way.

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<v Speaker 5>And is it getting worse throughout the pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, unfortunately, Like as this baby's getting bigger, so also

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<v Speaker 1>is the accidents that I'm having in my pants.

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<v Speaker 2>Laura, did I wish I could? I actually do not

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<v Speaker 2>care at all to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>Like friends stealing thunder at your wedding and stuff. Laura

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<v Speaker 3>stole my thunder in a different way. She like wet

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<v Speaker 3>herself as I was about to walk down the aisle.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know if there's anyone on this

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<v Speaker 1>planet that would refer to that as stealing someone's thunder.

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<v Speaker 1>If anything, I think they'd be deeply mortified.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we had to put the ceremony on pause Becauselaura,

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<v Speaker 3>we had to take room.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, guys, stop the song.

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<v Speaker 5>La was the ceremony.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll be glad to hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, I actually I went to a GP, a

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<v Speaker 1>new DP I've never seen before, because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I should start doing some keegels or something like,

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<v Speaker 1>start doing some sort of exercises so that that's not

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute train wreck. After I give birth to this kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and I went in and it was a new doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if you've ever experienced this yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but usually I find, i'm thirty eight years old, that

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<v Speaker 1>doctors are often older than me, you know, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>used to having like an old man who seems very wise,

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<v Speaker 1>or an old female doctor who seems very wise. If anything,

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<v Speaker 1>they are sometimes a similar age, but usually I would

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<v Speaker 1>say most doctors I've been to see her in their

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<v Speaker 1>forties or fifties.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, this doctor I went in and saw I was

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<v Speaker 1>quite young. I would add a guest say that she

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<v Speaker 1>was a gen z. And I spoke to her about

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<v Speaker 1>my pellet floor, which I'm sure she's never had to

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<v Speaker 1>experience herself, which is absolutely fine.

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<v Speaker 2>She seems very well researched in it.

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<v Speaker 1>But what she did say about my uterus could have

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<v Speaker 1>been taken as an offense.

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<v Speaker 2>But truly it didn't even touch the sides.

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<v Speaker 1>She said to me, as she was trying to describe

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<v Speaker 1>what happens to your uterus when you've had your third

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<v Speaker 1>kid and how like stretched out and floppy and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>it is. She goes, you know what happens when you've

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<v Speaker 1>had more than two kids. Think about your uterus as

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<v Speaker 1>like a tent. It's got no poles, there's nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>hold it up. And that's actually a good analogy.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, unfortunate for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's an unfortunate analogy, but very accurate. I

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<v Speaker 1>sat there looking at her, and I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're actually bang on, But you probably could have.

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<v Speaker 2>Found a nice way of saying that to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, to be fair, I sort of don't mind

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<v Speaker 3>it because I mean, I'm a visual person, so.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because that gives me exactly what I need. But

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<v Speaker 5>it's so funny you say this.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like stuck in a thread on Reddit or

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<v Speaker 3>something the other day that was talking about gen Z

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<v Speaker 3>doctors specifically. The crazy thing is gen Z doctors are

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<v Speaker 3>like twenty eight. So when you said your doctors are

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<v Speaker 3>usually older, that's because we're now older.

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<v Speaker 2>They also, I want.

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<v Speaker 1>This to be very clear, in no disrespect to any

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<v Speaker 1>doctor who's a gen Z like, you've done the hours,

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<v Speaker 1>you've done the study, you're well and truly qualified. You

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<v Speaker 1>just have a different lingo and we're all here for it. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>we do have a grab from something that's going around

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a little listen to this.

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<v Speaker 4>So yesterday I had my first experience with a gen

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<v Speaker 4>Z doctor, and if you have not had one yet,

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<v Speaker 4>brace yourself. We went to urgent care because I've I

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<v Speaker 4>fainted again. But the doctor comes in and she's like, yo, dog,

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<v Speaker 4>you passed out four times in the past forty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 5>You need to go to the emergency room. By ambulance.

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<v Speaker 5>That is verbatim what the doctor said to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh godually, I'm I'm all for this.

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<v Speaker 5>Some of the thread was so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone said, I had a gen Z nurse tell me

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<v Speaker 3>in ICU that, hey, your pancreas has left the chat,

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<v Speaker 3>which basically means that the pancreas is dead. As a

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<v Speaker 3>millennial nurse, getting gen Z residents come through my unit.

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<v Speaker 5>Is always comical. One looked at a brain scan and said, bra,

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<v Speaker 5>that's it, she goes, I knew it was bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure that that's what that woman said about

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<v Speaker 1>my uterus as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I left the building.

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<v Speaker 5>This one.

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<v Speaker 3>I told a gen Z doctor that my knee was locked.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, hmm, I don't know what that's about, but

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<v Speaker 3>it sounds like a red flag.

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<v Speaker 5>That's pretty funny. Wow, I'm all about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, Hey, whatever way you want to communicate, If

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<v Speaker 3>you want to tell me that my organs are dying

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<v Speaker 3>by leaving the chat, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm all for it. It just makes me feel old,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty much it. That's all that I'm taking away

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<v Speaker 1>from this. And you know what, would also indicate that

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that I keep paying my pants and that.

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<v Speaker 5>You forget your husband's birthday, and uh, we can write

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<v Speaker 5>a little list.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that I was particularly bad at when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in the throes of dating. Thank god I am

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<v Speaker 1>now married and had to go on a reality TV

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<v Speaker 1>show to find my husband, But that was the break

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<v Speaker 1>up part. I feel like I hung on to dear

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<v Speaker 1>life to all of my relationships. I've said this before,

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<v Speaker 1>until I drove those things so far into the ground

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<v Speaker 1>that they were dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were so dead. They were lifeless and limp

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<v Speaker 2>and sad.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also like, really struggled with the breaking up

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<v Speaker 1>part of a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't matter if I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was dating someone for two days or two years, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I almost impossible, And I think it's because I'm quite

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<v Speaker 1>conflict avoidant.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think it's easier to be on the receiving

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<v Speaker 3>end of a breakup or the breaker up erer depends

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<v Speaker 3>on how blindsided you are.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's no person that's ever gone through a

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<v Speaker 1>really bad breakup that's going to sit here and say

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<v Speaker 1>getting broken up with is way easier. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>for some people there are personality types that find doing

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<v Speaker 1>the breaking up incredibly Like I say, in a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>for an entire.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, knowing that it was over, but I could not

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<v Speaker 2>bring myself to break up with him.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason I want to talk about this is

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<v Speaker 1>because if you were in the early stages of dating

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<v Speaker 1>and you're finding it particularly hard to do the breaking

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<v Speaker 1>up with someone when someone doesn't seem right, I came

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<v Speaker 1>across an article that has a full proof formula for

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<v Speaker 1>how to break up with them. And as someone who

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<v Speaker 1>did quite a bit of dating but also quite a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of breaking hearts skill, for.

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<v Speaker 3>What you were going to say, there's someone who are

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<v Speaker 3>shopped around, someone has been prolific in the dating sphere

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<v Speaker 3>for yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think you, and in all the conversations

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<v Speaker 1>we've had over the last six years about friendship, you

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<v Speaker 1>have been really good at calling things off when it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't serve you.

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<v Speaker 3>It gets easier tried and tested. It's one of those

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<v Speaker 3>learned traits that you have to spend time doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hear me out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mean to run you through and you can tell

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<v Speaker 1>me what pointer is, dismisses or you know what you

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<v Speaker 1>would do differently. So this is your perfect breakup text.

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<v Speaker 1>Write this down, guys, put this as your bible. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the dating throwsk okay. Firstly, start with a

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<v Speaker 1>hello in their name.

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<v Speaker 2>Know nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi Frank.

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<v Speaker 1>No no nice names like if you've called them babe

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. None, None, that's going babe, you suck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't do that. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Small gratitude like had a really nice night the other night, right,

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<v Speaker 1>something that's like, you know, or thanks for picking that restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Something really simple to the point.

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<v Speaker 1>Next one, get to the point kindly and as honestly

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, which is very simply, something like had a

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<v Speaker 1>really great time. I'm not feeling it with you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that you find what is that you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's got too much. I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 3>I could see you even getting off Lauria are getting

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<v Speaker 3>uncomfortable reading them.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it says end on a positive note, something like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I wish you all the best. I really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed getting to know you, even though you're giving them

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<v Speaker 1>a shit sandwich and telling them that you really didn't

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it that much. And then number five, the friend

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<v Speaker 1>opt in. I think that this one is the important one.

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<v Speaker 1>The friend opt in where you say, but we could

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<v Speaker 1>still be friends. You only say it if you really

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<v Speaker 1>mean it, Like, if you're actually going to pursue a friendship,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can throw that line in.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're sending these breakup texts like after one or

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<v Speaker 3>two dates, don't throw the friend thing in.

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<v Speaker 2>Just cut your losses, really.

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<v Speaker 5>Unless you need a new best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people do collect friends though, some people that go

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<v Speaker 1>on single like you know, one or two dates and

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<v Speaker 1>then they collect a friendship.

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<v Speaker 5>Tally. Yeah, we have a friend that does that. That's

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<v Speaker 5>what we give her a hard dive all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but I want to give you three one liners

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<v Speaker 1>and brit tell me what you think when you're actually

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<v Speaker 1>going into like the breakup part of the text, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not feeling a deeper connection here.

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<v Speaker 2>Blunt to the point.

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<v Speaker 1>Another option, however, I don't see this progressing further between us,

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<v Speaker 1>blunt also to the point.

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<v Speaker 2>Third one.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, I'm just not feeling a romantic connection between us.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you heard of kiss?

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<v Speaker 3>Like the analogies, don't kiss them with kiss? Keep it simple, stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>You can use it in any aspect of life. Keep

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<v Speaker 3>it simple, stupid a compliment. Sandwich, short and sweet. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>Frank had a really nice time at dinner last night.

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<v Speaker 3>It was lovely to meet you. I just don't see

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<v Speaker 3>it going anywhere. Unfortunately, I didn't feel the connection or

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we have what I'm looking for.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope you have a great weekend. See you later.

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<v Speaker 3>No friend, nothing compliment, sandwich, short and sweet, thank them

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<v Speaker 3>for a nice time.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not you, it's me. They're great, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then get the hell out of there. It's okay, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think people get I got way.

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<v Speaker 5>Better at it, like after the decade of doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really hard at the start, but once you realize

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<v Speaker 3>that there are a billion people in the world like

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<v Speaker 3>you going on a date with Frank that you met online,

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<v Speaker 3>the odds are there.

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<v Speaker 5>Is no connection, like your odds is more stacked against you.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not personal. It's like two people didn't quite match.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think we take too much pressure on ourselves

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<v Speaker 3>for like breaking someone's heart.

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<v Speaker 5>He's gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay For me, I was someone who was very guilty

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<v Speaker 1>of doing the ghost not proud of it now, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was a ghoster. I was just if it was

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<v Speaker 1>one or two dates and I wasn't into it, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>just go quiet. I don't think that that's the right

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<v Speaker 1>way of handling it. And now that I'm older, more mature,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I could go back and live my life again,

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<v Speaker 1>I would do it differently. But tell me, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that after one date someone deserves a text message?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>And how many dates do you think you need to

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<v Speaker 1>go on before it's not a text message anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a phone call.

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<v Speaker 5>It can always be a text.

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<v Speaker 2>No, unless you're married.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean if you're exclusive, and it's more than

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<v Speaker 3>like a couple of dates, but a couple of dates

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<v Speaker 3>in it can be a text one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, apparently according to this relationship expert, they said, no

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<v Speaker 1>more than if five dates, if you've been on five dates,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's a phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Call, or you could just ghost.

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<v Speaker 5>No, don't don't take Lawa's advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Alright, guys, Well that is it from us.