Speaker 1: Hello, I'm welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: kay Torba and coming up on today's show, Britney Saunder's
Speaker 1: shocks fans by returning to YouTube, Rachel Dylan's baby news,
Speaker 1: and the self proclaimed tennis Wag's winning fans at the
Speaker 1: Aussie Open. The first anonymous influencer snark Sides are in
Speaker 1: the spotlight again after being called out by two high
Speaker 1: profile influencers. Indy Clinton has hit out at anonymous users,
Speaker 1: telling them to get a hobby, get laid, or go
Speaker 1: find God.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: So what prompted this reaction from Indy Well, all of
Speaker 1: this drama kicked off in popular Facebook group Tea Time.
Speaker 1: So an anonymous user accused an influencer of not being
Speaker 1: sun safe with her kids. She wrote, sun safety, where
Speaker 1: is it? A certain influencer has posted to her instant
Speaker 1: showing her children wearing no hats or appropriate clothing to
Speaker 1: the beach and what makes it worse is the visible
Speaker 1: nappy tanlines on one shop and what seems to be
Speaker 1: a severe burn and red raw pealing marks on another's back.
Speaker 1: At what point do we start holding the more accountable
Speaker 1: for not being better role models and promoting sun safety
Speaker 1: over being tanned. The anonymous user added, admins, pretty please
Speaker 1: do not delete this post and support my theory that
Speaker 1: this certain influencer is untouchable on this page. Now, it
Speaker 1: didn't take long for people to draw the dots and
Speaker 1: realize this post was about Indy Clinton, and while there
Speaker 1: were some that agreed with the original poster, the majority
Speaker 1: thought that it was a bit of a stretch and
Speaker 1: accused the poster of mum shaming Indy. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of people asking this anonymous poster if they were
Speaker 1: a parent and if they're aware of how difficult it
Speaker 1: is to actually keep a hat on a child and
Speaker 1: really defending Indy if anything. In general, people thought it
Speaker 1: was a bit of a stretch, and I think we're
Speaker 1: seeing people piling onto influencers at the moment because Sun's
Speaker 1: safety is really a hot topic no pun intended at
Speaker 1: the moment on social media, because the ABC did a
Speaker 1: really great investigation into what's going on TikTok at the
Speaker 1: moment with the promotion of tan lines. We've seen Sopha
Speaker 1: Doufer dragged into that drama. And while I applaud that
Speaker 1: somen safety is a topic of discussion. This did seem
Speaker 1: like a reach. Yeah, you can tell by the tone
Speaker 1: of this post that this person already has an issue
Speaker 1: with Indy, so they were sort of looking for something
Speaker 1: else to have a go at her about. Now. Indy
Speaker 1: ended up hitting back on her Instagram story, which I
Speaker 1: found really interesting because we interviewed her back in December
Speaker 1: and at the time she was very frustrated that she
Speaker 1: previously had to stay quiet on a lot of controversies
Speaker 1: that had popped up surrounding her, and her management had
Speaker 1: always told her to be quiet, to let the story die.
Speaker 1: But I think her strategy this year is to defend herself,
Speaker 1: particularly when it comes to people spreading vicious rumors about
Speaker 1: her children. Yeah, when we had a chat, she spoke
Speaker 1: about how detrimental TEA time and tatle life are to
Speaker 1: her mental health, and how she has spoken to her
Speaker 1: psychologists about ways to deal with that kind of hate.
Speaker 1: And I'm really glad that Indy has found her voice
Speaker 1: in this instant because there's nothing worse than people making
Speaker 1: up rumors about your children. So she shared a photo
Speaker 1: of Navies back and confirmed that it was just a scratch,
Speaker 1: and she questioned those criticizing her if they'd ever seen
Speaker 1: her children's sunburnt before she continued writing, I'm born and
Speaker 1: raised at the beach. I know how to keep them safe.
Speaker 1: And my favorite part of India's clapback was when she
Speaker 1: told the anonymous poster to get a hobby, get laid,
Speaker 1: or go find God, because you need something better to
Speaker 1: do than making up stories about me and my kids.
Speaker 1: That probably felt really good to say it. She then
Speaker 1: followed up with another Instagram story which said, actually, if
Speaker 1: you're posting anonymously on a forum about absolute rubbish, you'll
Speaker 1: probably most definitely not getting laid. Here's a link to
Speaker 1: a good dido instead. Good Luck. I really liked it
Speaker 1: because Big ed Aka. Her husband Ben also weighed in,
Speaker 1: saying this first.
Speaker 3: On a forum starts ragging my wife and my kids
Speaker 3: about suns. Safety's with it the beach her whole life.
Speaker 3: I've lived in a harsh environment. Out of them, we
Speaker 3: understand some safety. To make an assumption that our kid's
Speaker 3: appealing when one's a scab and one's exmar is just
Speaker 3: next level. The fact that it's done under an anonymous
Speaker 3: account just is coudice really and it makes me really sick.
Speaker 3: To be honest, it's not about our situation, it's just
Speaker 3: it's overall, I think on social media and faceless people
Speaker 3: saying things or having an opinion that they wouldn't have
Speaker 3: in person. That is my main problem. It's just it
Speaker 3: needs to stop. And I think these forums are actually
Speaker 3: kind of encouraging this behavior.
Speaker 1: There's something just so attractive about when someone's husband or
Speaker 1: partner steps in to defend them, and it was really
Speaker 1: interesting to hear his perspective. And sometimes it takes for
Speaker 1: someone who's not heavily invested in that world to step
Speaker 1: back and say, this is fucking ridiculous, what is going on? Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: what stood up for me was the fact that Ben
Speaker 1: got involved showed how just much it had affected Indy
Speaker 1: that he felt like he needed to come online and
Speaker 1: defend his wife, because he for the last couple of
Speaker 1: years has played a real background character. But you can
Speaker 1: see more recently he's becoming a lot more comfortable in
Speaker 1: front of the camera. And again, Indy spoke on our
Speaker 1: podcast about how he's actually been bullied by people at
Speaker 1: his work for being a part of her channel. I
Speaker 1: also think it must be really difficult for people's partners
Speaker 1: to sit back and watch them copper online and feel
Speaker 1: like they can't say anything. It reminded me of a
Speaker 1: conversation that I've had with my husband in regards to
Speaker 1: these gossip forums, because there is an outspoken thread on
Speaker 1: there which we get spoken about quite a lot, and
Speaker 1: it's good to have someone who's removed from the situation
Speaker 1: just saying that these people basically have no lives and
Speaker 1: nothing better to do, and how ridiculous it is. And
Speaker 1: I also think that he brought up a really important point,
Speaker 1: which is around the anonymous nature of a lot of
Speaker 1: these forums and also now Facebook groups. So even in
Speaker 1: our Facebook group, there is a feature where you can
Speaker 1: anonymously create a post, but usually if you respond to it,
Speaker 1: your name is visible. Yeah, so now you can create
Speaker 1: an anonymous alias to comment in there, which I'm wondering
Speaker 1: if we can turn off, because I do feel like
Speaker 1: the ability to anonymously post at all is actually having
Speaker 1: a really detrimental impact on our Facebook community. I don't
Speaker 1: like it, and I really think at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, if you have an opinion to share, you
Speaker 1: should be willing to share your name and face to it. Like,
Speaker 1: obviously we speak about influencer culture, and we're happy to
Speaker 1: put our face and name to the comments that we
Speaker 1: make because we stand by those comments.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, Indy Clinton isn't the only influencer who's opened up
Speaker 1: about the detrimental effect anonymous troll comments have had on
Speaker 1: her This week. So Zoe Haig, who is the sister
Speaker 1: of Molly May, shared a troll comment that she received
Speaker 1: about one of her selfies on a YouTube channel. Let's
Speaker 1: throw to what she said.
Speaker 5: I get comments like this like a fair about and
Speaker 5: they don't normally bother me. Bloody how face pop clup,
Speaker 5: give me a shot influence life is not for you.
Speaker 5: Comments on that never ever, ever, ever bought the mean.
Speaker 5: I don't know why that's interested. I think it's because
Speaker 5: I'm not feeling great and like I feel like I
Speaker 5: don't look my worst. I would never even reply to
Speaker 5: a comment like that, nor leave it, but I just
Speaker 5: said great, thanks for him my day, because I don't
Speaker 5: want people by that to think that you just get
Speaker 5: away from saying stuff.
Speaker 1: It was so hard to watch her cry on YouTube,
Speaker 1: but I'm actually glad that she did share this because
Speaker 1: it really shows the reality of what happens when you
Speaker 1: send one of these ridiculous comments, because I'm sure the
Speaker 1: person just shot the message off not even thinking about it.
Speaker 1: It was probably misplaced aggression. I always think there is
Speaker 1: a place to critique influences behavior, but I have never
Speaker 1: understood why anyone thinks it's their right to comment on
Speaker 1: anyone's appearance. It is utterly disgusting. I just can't even
Speaker 1: comprehend someone sitting there and thinking that's an okay thing
Speaker 1: to do. I mean, it's absolutely disgusting. Who cares what
Speaker 1: she looks like? I mean, she's a beautiful girl anyway,
Speaker 1: So it just shows how ridiculous it all is. Now.
Speaker 1: Zoe went on to share her thoughts about anonymous sites
Speaker 1: like tattle Life, who speak about not only her, but
Speaker 1: her sister on a daily basis. Here's what she said.
Speaker 5: Obviously, I know it is a troll account because I'm
Speaker 5: saying things like influencer life isn't for you, Like you
Speaker 5: don't have to look a certain way to be an influencder.
Speaker 5: Obviously I don't look like a lot of influencers, Like
Speaker 5: I didn't get into this influencing life because I looked
Speaker 5: a certain way. It's not about how you look. Whenever
Speaker 5: I do see comments like that, I would honestly pay
Speaker 5: so much money like all these horrible forms of people
Speaker 5: being horrible about everyone. I would pay so much money,
Speaker 5: like probably every single penny that I own, to see
Speaker 5: you who are to like line them all up against
Speaker 5: each other and be like, Oh, that's the sort of
Speaker 5: person that like comments horble staff or that it's really
Speaker 5: horrible about other people. Because I just can't picture the
Speaker 5: sort of person that is like, yeah, it could be anyone,
Speaker 5: and that she could be someone that you're friends or
Speaker 5: someone that you're passing the street and they're they're like
Speaker 5: making horrible comments online.
Speaker 1: Again, I really think that if you're going to share
Speaker 1: an anonymous comment about someone, particularly when you're picking apart
Speaker 1: their appearance, you might be brave enough to share a
Speaker 1: photo of what you look like and also your name.
Speaker 2: Okay, so hello and welcome to my YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: For those of you who do not know who I am,
Speaker 1: my name is Britney Saunders. After pulling the pin on
Speaker 1: her YouTube career four years ago, Britney Saunders has shoted
Speaker 1: fans by making a dramatic return. The much loved OG
Speaker 1: influencer turned business Mogul has vowed to revamp her channel
Speaker 1: and lifted the lid on why she quit the platform.
Speaker 1: So all feels right in the world now that britt
Speaker 1: is back on YouTube. I was really excited to see
Speaker 1: her make this grand return, and I was really intrigued
Speaker 1: to see at what capacity she would be returning in
Speaker 1: because when she started her channel, she was posting four
Speaker 1: to five times a week, and obviously they were vlog
Speaker 1: style videos. It was all about her life. And I
Speaker 1: instantly noticed when I clicked on her channel that she
Speaker 1: has renamed it. So when she first launched in twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: it was called Britney Lee Saunders. For some reason, back then,
Speaker 1: it was very in vogue to go by your full name,
Speaker 1: including your middle name. I mean, Steph Cleare Smith and
Speaker 1: Olivia Molly Rodgers was still doing it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I suppose it's because their last name is common, so
Speaker 1: maybe someone already had the other handle. I also think
Speaker 1: that creators did it to stand out and to have
Speaker 1: a unique element. Now, as of twenty twenty five, BRIT's
Speaker 1: channel is now known as Britney Saunder's Fate the label,
Speaker 1: so it's very clear to see that her return to
Speaker 1: YouTube is a business decision, and a smart one at that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she has spent ten years cultivating this following, so why
Speaker 1: not tap back into this market, particularly when you own
Speaker 1: your own clothing brand. It just makes sense. There's no
Speaker 1: point in letting a huge platform like this just die
Speaker 1: and lay dormant because it's such a waste. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: BRIT's first video back was entitled Why I Quit and
Speaker 1: Why I Am Back, and at the time of recording,
Speaker 1: it's not sched up fifty four thousand views. To me,
Speaker 1: that sounds quite low considering she has a million subscribers,
Speaker 1: But I'm guessing it's because she hasn't been on the
Speaker 1: platform for four years and the algorithm is really punishing
Speaker 1: her at the moment. Well, it's such a relief that
Speaker 1: she actually hit fifty four thousand views, because she joked
Speaker 1: that if she didn't reach at least ten thousand views,
Speaker 1: she would be retiring straight away. Again. Now, the video
Speaker 1: was filmed in her office and she had her large
Speaker 1: warehouse visible in the background, and this video was a
Speaker 1: very clever mix of a trip down memory lane and
Speaker 1: also an update on what she's been up to. I
Speaker 1: really liked what she did with this video because it
Speaker 1: was really nostalgic. She opened up with vision of her
Speaker 1: first YouTube video from back in twenty eleven, so it
Speaker 1: was an eighteen year old Britt explaining that she loved
Speaker 1: makeup and skincare and thought that she may as well
Speaker 1: give the whole YouTube thing a crack. Brit seemed to
Speaker 1: be very mindful that this might be the first time
Speaker 1: that a lot of her og followers who only followed
Speaker 1: her on YouTube are seeing her again in four years,
Speaker 1: and she said that she always felt like they might
Speaker 1: have been angry at her for leaving, and she also
Speaker 1: knew that some of her most recent fans might have
Speaker 1: been unaware that she was a full blown YouTuber for
Speaker 1: ten years. So she decided to share a montage of
Speaker 1: old videos, and the ones that I were fascinated to
Speaker 1: see were her on brand trips because she's been very
Speaker 1: outspoken in the last year about how her brand fate
Speaker 1: is pushing back offering influencer trips, so they did something
Speaker 1: quite revolutionary and they offered everyday customers a sort of
Speaker 1: influencer inspired trip. So she was really giving back to
Speaker 1: her community, and it's interesting to see some of these
Speaker 1: influencer brand trips that she was treated to back in
Speaker 1: the day. So they ranged from going to Los Angeles
Speaker 1: with Tart Cosmetics to going to the Hayman Islands. And
Speaker 1: in one of the clips from twenty sixteen, Brits showed
Speaker 1: her followers that not only was she gifted an iPad
Speaker 1: on one of these trips, also an Apple Watch and
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, and I suppose still now they were
Speaker 1: the must haves like that would have set the company
Speaker 1: back a lot of money, particularly to give it to
Speaker 1: not only brit but all of the influencers that were
Speaker 1: on the trip, and she was saying that that time
Speaker 1: in her life didn't even feel real. And it was
Speaker 1: actually during one of these influencer trips that she realized
Speaker 1: that she was more intrigued by how the companies were
Speaker 1: working behind the scenes, and she often spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time talking to the team and trying to understand
Speaker 1: how the business worked and also the perspective of why
Speaker 1: they would send influencers on these extravagant trips. Now, this
Speaker 1: of course led her to starting her own clothing company,
Speaker 1: Fate in twenty seventeen, and at the time, britt admitted
Speaker 1: that when she launched the fashion brand, she didn't really
Speaker 1: think much of it, because if you do cast your
Speaker 1: mind back, a lot of influencers were just slapping their
Speaker 1: names on things and doing it as a bit of
Speaker 1: a cash grab.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She said she felt like it just seemed to be
Speaker 1: the obvious step for her as an influencer to start
Speaker 1: a brand, and she said that she had no idea
Speaker 1: how to actually start a business. Yeah. It's funny because
Speaker 1: it seems like for Brit she was the type of
Speaker 1: person that would just follow what the trend was. So
Speaker 1: I remember hearing in an interview that she said she
Speaker 1: didn't even like makeup or wasn't particularly good at it,
Speaker 1: but launched a makeup channel because that's what everyone was
Speaker 1: doing at the time. It is ironic that this brand
Speaker 1: that she didn't think much of ended up growing so
Speaker 1: big and becoming her number one passion and actually led
Speaker 1: to her quitting YouTube. Yeah, I mean, it's happened for
Speaker 1: quite a lot of influencers. I mean the one that
Speaker 1: springs to mind is Shanie Grimmin. She used to be
Speaker 1: massive on YouTube at the same time Brit was, and
Speaker 1: she also has followed in BRIT's footsteps. She launched her
Speaker 1: own swimmer company. She's recently got a warehouse, So it
Speaker 1: is really cool to see these og influencers doing so
Speaker 1: well for themselves, but they always seem to go back
Speaker 1: to YouTube. I'm hoping the same will happen with Shanie Grimm,
Speaker 1: and I know she's TikTok vlogging, but it's just not
Speaker 1: the same as long form content. I think Britt is
Speaker 1: also very mindful that she wants to be seen as
Speaker 1: one of the people. She doesn't want to be seen
Speaker 1: as this influencer who was living this lavish lifestyle, because
Speaker 1: she also pointed out that one of the reasons she
Speaker 1: quit YouTube four years ago is because she felt like
Speaker 1: she was turning into a sellout. She said that she
Speaker 1: was no longer interested in spreaking products and she didn't
Speaker 1: feel like she was being authentic to her self. That
Speaker 1: is really interesting because, as you said earlier, the channel
Speaker 1: has now labeled Britney Saunda's Fate the label, so it
Speaker 1: clearly was a business decision to return to the platform.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to seeing how she actually promotes
Speaker 1: the brand to her followers, because I know she is
Speaker 1: very clever with marketing and she's not going to just
Speaker 1: be like, oh this try and hold no, who's my
Speaker 1: co blah blah blah. She is going to be revolutionary
Speaker 1: with how she does this. Well, she's committed to putting
Speaker 1: out a video a week, and she said that it
Speaker 1: will be behind the scenes of her business, similar to
Speaker 1: what she's sharing on TikTok and YouTube, just a longer
Speaker 1: format where I'm guessing that she'd be putting a lot
Speaker 1: of her personality across and not just be sharing about
Speaker 1: all the highs. I'm sure we'll get a little glimpse
Speaker 1: on the lows. Well, it's super clever. It's literally like
Speaker 1: a TV show of what's going on behind the scenes
Speaker 1: out of business. People are going to get invested, They're
Speaker 1: going to want to support the brand. I think it's
Speaker 1: an incredible idea. There was a really big reaction to
Speaker 1: her returning to YouTube. A lot of her og followers
Speaker 1: were saying that they were so excited and that they've
Speaker 1: missed her, and they called her out on the fact
Speaker 1: that she has privated the majority of her video so
Speaker 1: she had thousands of videos on the back channel, and
Speaker 1: a few of her followers said, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: loved going back and binge watching them. So she's had
Speaker 1: now has the idea that she'd be releasing these new
Speaker 1: videos a week, but she'll also be re releasing an
Speaker 1: old video. And we've seen a lot of YouTube do
Speaker 1: this where they've privated a lot of their videos. And
Speaker 1: I think it comes down not just to her, but
Speaker 1: generally for damage control, because people keep finding stuff that
Speaker 1: was set on the internet ten years ago, taking it
Speaker 1: out of context or not taking it for the time
Speaker 1: that it was set in. Yeah, a lot of things
Speaker 1: haven't aged well over the last decades, so I can
Speaker 1: see why she has done that. It is a smart
Speaker 1: business move or she protected herself. Yeah, and obviously she
Speaker 1: can now cherry pick what videos she wants to put
Speaker 1: out there. She's got enough staff to check over whether
Speaker 1: it's okay to put out. I love that she has
Speaker 1: decided to do her own reruns again, another fabulous idea
Speaker 1: that I think a lot of influencers are going to
Speaker 1: be copying. Yeah. Unfortunately, though, her classic catchphrase peace out
Speaker 1: Doggies will not be making a return, which upset a
Speaker 1: lot of her followers, so in Everno they might put
Speaker 1: the pressure on her. Oh, I think we can probably
Speaker 1: move on from that one. Good of morning, everyone kilsin Evers.
Speaker 1: Finnis influencer Rachel Dylan and Sweat co founder Toby Pierce
Speaker 1: have announced their expecting their first child together.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: For Toby, this is his second child. He already shares
Speaker 1: a five year old daughter with his former fiance and
Speaker 1: business partner Kayla Hassenas this is the third influencer prediction
Speaker 1: that we've got right in the space of three weeks.
Speaker 1: This is a lot of peacocking at the moment. Yes,
Speaker 1: the thing is, I need to go listen back to
Speaker 1: that episode because I'm a little bit nervous that maybe
Speaker 1: we didn't include it in the recording, because I definitely
Speaker 1: had it on my list. I think this was on
Speaker 1: our list, but we didn't want to include it in
Speaker 1: the episode because I think it's a bit inappropriate to
Speaker 1: make guesses about people's like fertility journeys and where they're
Speaker 1: going to get pregnants. So in saying that, I think
Speaker 1: we actually did end up including it. So listen to it. Well,
Speaker 1: it was beautiful news, and the couple broke it by
Speaker 1: sharing an adorable family video with Ana very much front
Speaker 1: and center, which I loved. Their sausage dog Pee even
Speaker 1: made an appearance, So the video showed behind the scenes
Speaker 1: of a pregnancy shoot, and of course, with any influencer
Speaker 1: pregnancy announcement, I think it's mandatory for everyone to wear
Speaker 1: matching out and have vibes of a Levi commercial. It
Speaker 1: was very similar to m davies. Yeah, so Rachel wore
Speaker 1: unbuttoned jeans and a white sports bra, while Toby wore
Speaker 1: a white long sleeve shirt and jeans, and Aarna wore
Speaker 1: a very cute white dress. I don't know how influencers
Speaker 1: managed to get their partners to be involved in these
Speaker 1: elaborate photo shoots, because I found it difficult enough to
Speaker 1: get Reese to just be in a photo. Is it
Speaker 1: the dollar signs? I mean, I actually had to take
Speaker 1: my pregnancy announcement photo again because I somehow talked my
Speaker 1: husband into wearing Christmas pajamas, so Amy well matching ones.
Speaker 1: Amy originally took the photo and when he saw them,
Speaker 1: he's like, oh my god, I'm going to get so
Speaker 1: much stick from my friends from this. Can we please
Speaker 1: take a photo in normal clothes? Maybe you have to
Speaker 1: drop the original photo in like our Facebook community or
Speaker 1: a private post. He was actually very cute. Now in
Speaker 1: this video, Anna is hugging Rachel and Toby. She's also
Speaker 1: seen kissing Rachel's bump and holding up the pregnancy test
Speaker 1: and I got very confused because there was large letters
Speaker 1: across it which said sister. And at first I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, are they using this to announce the gender?
Speaker 1: Are they saying that this is Anna's sister? But I
Speaker 1: think they're just saying that Anna is a sister.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I looked at the comment section and no one
Speaker 1: was leaving pink love heart, so there was no mention
Speaker 1: of a baby girl. So I was like, Okay, it
Speaker 1: must just be because she's going to be a big sister.
Speaker 1: But through me, I did see a lot of references
Speaker 1: to the fact that she's going to be a big sister.
Speaker 1: I actually saw something that doctor Gollie, who's a pediatrician,
Speaker 1: quite a famous pediatrician. We all know doctor God, Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah we do. I think it was actually on Steph
Speaker 1: Clesmith's podcast. She was talking about how doctor Gollie had
Speaker 1: advised her when she was telling Harvey that she was
Speaker 1: having a baby to make it sound really special that
Speaker 1: he's going to be a big brother. Oh, I'm wondering
Speaker 1: if they've had advice there. Well, this baby is due
Speaker 1: in the middle of the year, so the couple captioned
Speaker 1: the post simply coming July. And this news didn't come
Speaker 1: as a complete surprise to Rachel's followers, because last week
Speaker 1: she shared an Instagram story saying I feel so blessed.
Speaker 1: I get so excited to come home. They just returned
Speaker 1: from another trip, and she wrote, back to my routine
Speaker 1: and back to a very exciting work here for twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. I have so much to share with all
Speaker 1: of you now. Due to that last line, a lot
Speaker 1: of Rachel's followers speculated that she was set to make
Speaker 1: a pregnancy announcement. I mean, it's terrible because she did
Speaker 1: get married last year, and I feel like as soon
Speaker 1: as influencers get married, everyone's like, when am I having
Speaker 1: a baby? And then as soon as I have a baby,
Speaker 1: everyone's like, when are they having a second one? I
Speaker 1: hate it. Isn't that just life in gener Yeah? Now,
Speaker 1: this post was of course inundated with congratulations from the
Speaker 1: Blue Tick Brigade. So Rachel's sister, who created a bit
Speaker 1: of a stir when she sang at her wedding, wrote,
Speaker 1: our sweet baby, you were so loved already and your
Speaker 1: Auntie is already so obsessed with you, counting down the
Speaker 1: days until I get to meet you earthside. Apologies in
Speaker 1: advance for the fifty thousand convos you're going to have
Speaker 1: to listen to of your Mum and I while you
Speaker 1: grow in her tummy. Her bridesmaid Isabelle Mathers, who copped
Speaker 1: a lot of flack over what she wore to Rachel's
Speaker 1: rehearsal dinner, wrote words can't explain my excitement. I love
Speaker 1: you both so much. You're going to be the best
Speaker 1: Mum and Grace. Beverly wrote, oh my gosh, congratulations, So
Speaker 1: happy for you both.
Speaker 4: Really non biased opinion. Australian Open is the best time
Speaker 4: in the tennis season and we are backed.
Speaker 1: The Australian Open is currently in full swing in Melbourne
Speaker 1: and although I don't know all of the top seeds
Speaker 1: names like I used to, my appetite for the tournament
Speaker 1: has been renewed by the self proclaimed tennis wags. Now,
Speaker 1: while the term wag used to be considered demeaning, many
Speaker 1: of the wives and girlfriends currently on the tour are
Speaker 1: reclaiming the title and having some fun with it. God,
Speaker 1: how has it been a year since the Australian Open.
Speaker 1: You and I went last year, That does not seem
Speaker 1: a year ago. I'm having fomo because literally every influencer
Speaker 1: and their dogs seems to be there, and I just
Speaker 1: want to be their people watching. Yeah, you keep screenshotting
Speaker 1: different influences at the event and sending the demand being like,
Speaker 1: I want to be there. I know, because I just
Speaker 1: love the tennis. I'm getting all these snapchat memories from
Speaker 1: seven years ago when we went to the Open and
Speaker 1: we were really invested and we were going to all
Speaker 1: of the players practice matches and all of them the
Speaker 1: view of the practice. Yeah, and it was when we
Speaker 1: love Nadol. I'm so sad that he doesn't play anymore.
Speaker 1: But this is why I'm more interested in the Wags now,
Speaker 1: because I don't really know any of the big players,
Speaker 1: and if there was a Queen of the Wags, it
Speaker 1: would definitely beat Morgan Riddle. Yeah. We spoke a bit
Speaker 1: about her last year on the podcast because she made headlines.
Speaker 1: When was it she had to eat veggiemite? Yeah, So
Speaker 1: she dates US tennis player Taylor Fritz, who is incredibly hot,
Speaker 1: like he is probably the pinup I think of the
Speaker 1: tennis world. At the moment. Has he got Andy Roddick
Speaker 1: vibes from back in the day. He does, actually, I
Speaker 1: mean he's brunette, but yeah, he's very good looking. I'd
Speaker 1: recommend checking out his games. But basically, she said that
Speaker 1: if he got into the quarter finals, she would eat
Speaker 1: a jar a veggiemite. And this ended up being really
Speaker 1: funny because she I think she went live on her
Speaker 1: Instagram and she could only manage a spoonful and almost vomited.
Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be pretty hard to eat a whole
Speaker 1: jar of veggiemite. No, And it's pretty crazy because in
Speaker 1: the space of a couple of years, she has been
Speaker 1: dubbed the most famous woman in men's tennis, and she
Speaker 1: has a massive social media following. She's got half a
Speaker 1: million followers on TikTok and they tune in to watch
Speaker 1: all of her tennis outfits and also get a glimpse
Speaker 1: of what it's like to be on the tour. And
Speaker 1: she is always immaculately presented. I can't wait to see
Speaker 1: her outfits this year. She has a stylist who pulls
Speaker 1: together a lot of her looks and she loves to
Speaker 1: dress in theme. It's not Paul Versaci is it because
Speaker 1: I feel like he is the only stylist in Melbourne
Speaker 1: at the moment, So she has a stylist I think
Speaker 1: who travels with her. Oh okay, because side note, has
Speaker 1: anyone noticed that he and Olivia Rodgers appear not to
Speaker 1: be friends anymore. I'm really upset because I actually can't
Speaker 1: see Olivia Rodgers content anymore. And I was a big
Speaker 1: fan of her. She ended up blocking the podcast around
Speaker 1: the time that we were covering the story about her
Speaker 1: ex husband Justin Well, she blocked our personal pages. No,
Speaker 1: I think when you block the podcast, it automatically blocked
Speaker 1: our personal pages. I like to think I think she
Speaker 1: blocked them.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: I was a bit sad about that. But I can't
Speaker 1: see her content anymore. It's so weird when you follow
Speaker 1: someone for years and then suddenly you don't see their
Speaker 1: content and it's like they've fallen off the face of
Speaker 1: So if anything does happen that we need to report on,
Speaker 1: please let us know what. She did have a tennis event.
Speaker 1: But anyway, getting back to Morgan Riddle, I've really enjoyed
Speaker 1: watching her updates as the tennis tournament started to kick
Speaker 1: off because she actually spent Christmas in Australia and she's
Speaker 1: been giving her followers a glimpse of what actually goes
Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. And I always thought that life
Speaker 1: as a tennis wag would be really glamorous, and her
Speaker 1: flogs have confirmed this because she revealed that the Australian
Speaker 1: Open has a gifting suite for players and our partners.
Speaker 4: Most big tournaments have these gifting suites. Kind of makes
Speaker 4: it feel like an influencer trail.
Speaker 1: We're going to do a very.
Speaker 4: Quick cell of the player guests go and barks from Mecca.
Speaker 4: For my Americans, Mecca is like the Australian version of Sephora.
Speaker 4: We've got all sorts of Getty's ask strecham Pooh. This
Speaker 4: is one of my favorite products of all time. If
Speaker 4: you use this on flates, you will not break out.
Speaker 4: They go through like one a month now.
Speaker 1: Among her whole was also a carry on case from July,
Speaker 1: as well as clothing, tennis socks, a ton of expensive
Speaker 1: skin care and makeup products. There was one item that
Speaker 1: stumped her though, and it was a soft toy Echidna.
Speaker 4: I don't know what this says like in real life, spiky,
Speaker 4: but if any Australians want to tell me what that says.
Speaker 1: I literally have no idea. What's the real life spike?
Speaker 1: Is she referring to a porcupine because I feel like
Speaker 1: an echidna is really the American version of a porcupine.
Speaker 1: It is interesting that they didn't pick a koala or
Speaker 1: a kangaroo. Maybe they wanted something that was a bit unique.
Speaker 1: They didn't get as much airtime. And it is clear
Speaker 1: that this has been an educational experience for her because
Speaker 1: she had a lot of Australians shocked that she didn't know,
Speaker 1: hitting her up saying this is an echidna. Well, great
Speaker 1: for her engagement. I wonder if the Australian Open used
Speaker 1: to do this gifting suite before social media. I guess
Speaker 1: they would, but maybe not to the extent that they
Speaker 1: do it now. It's really interesting because as the partner
Speaker 1: of a tennis player, you also get access to all
Speaker 1: of the player cafes and you literally get given free
Speaker 1: food and drink. And Morgan explained that she is a
Speaker 1: huge fan of Australian coffee. She said that American coffee
Speaker 1: tastes like dish water in comparison. She did try Australian
Speaker 1: bacon though, and described it as a very unpleasant experience,
Speaker 1: so it's made me curious. I mean, I am vegetarian.
Speaker 1: I have had bacon before, though, what's the difference. There
Speaker 1: is a difference because when I went to Utah with
Speaker 1: the thirty six's, we stayed at a hotel and because
Speaker 1: it was a work trip, we had to just eat
Speaker 1: at the buffet every day. So unpleasant. And they do
Speaker 1: have a different type of bacon. Oh okay, it's sort
Speaker 1: of can't it kind of looks like fake bacon. It
Speaker 1: looks very processed. Any Americans let us know. I also
Speaker 1: found it quite fascinating because a lot of the tennis players'
Speaker 1: partners are also using the Australian Open as an opportunity
Speaker 1: to hold brand launches. So the girlfriend of an Italian
Speaker 1: tennis player called Mia Savo, she launched her own tennis
Speaker 1: inspired athletic brand. So she isn't from Melbourne, She's obviously
Speaker 1: from Italy and she doesn't have the social media reach
Speaker 1: that Morgan does. She only has five thousand followers. But
Speaker 1: she invited Morgan as well as a couple of the
Speaker 1: other tennis player's girlfriends along to a launch that she
Speaker 1: held at a private tennis club and overlooked a grass
Speaker 1: tennis court. They even served tennis teeny's. It's a tennis
Speaker 1: teeny well, it's basically a martini with light she balls
Speaker 1: that look like tennis balls. So it was very it
Speaker 1: was very cute. I wonder how the tennis players feel though,
Speaker 1: if they're happy to share their spotlight like this, well,
Speaker 1: I think it's only fair that if their partner has
Speaker 1: chosen to travel around with them on the tour, that
Speaker 1: they can also continue to work and influencing. As much
Speaker 1: as people don't like it, it is a genuine job
Speaker 1: and a lot of these women may actually be earning
Speaker 1: more money than their partners playing tennis or similar That's
Speaker 1: the thing. A lot of these tennis players partners are
Speaker 1: in fact influencers. And my TikTok algorithm knows me too
Speaker 1: well because it has also introduced me to Paige Lorenz,
Speaker 1: who is the girlfriend of American tennis player Tommy Paul. Now,
Speaker 1: she shares a lot of similarities with Morgan as not
Speaker 1: only is she stunning, but as I said, she also
Speaker 1: has a huge social media following. So she also has
Speaker 1: half a million followers on TikTok, and she shares a
Speaker 1: lot of life, style and fashion content, and The New
Speaker 1: York Post has dubbed Paige as the female Pete Davidson
Speaker 1: because she has had quite a number of high profile partners.
Speaker 1: So who's she been with? Well, she initially started to
Speaker 1: grow her following online because she started dating an NHL
Speaker 1: hockey player. She then gained even more followers when she
Speaker 1: dated Armie Hammer, and she has also dated country singer
Speaker 1: Morgan Wollen and also TV personality Tyler Cameron. I have
Speaker 1: to say, though, I wouldn't call her Pete Davidson because
Speaker 1: Pete Davison Moore gets this rap of being this ugly
Speaker 1: guy who dates all of these hot actresses. This woman
Speaker 1: is stunning. Yeah, it's not like she's batting above her
Speaker 1: average or anything. Okay, you have to check out this
Speaker 1: video because Paige shared how she prepped for her big
Speaker 1: travel to Australia.
Speaker 2: Boyfriend's playing in the Australian Open and I'm about to
Speaker 2: leave for Australia the.
Speaker 1: Long travel days, so I wanted you a little blog.
Speaker 1: I was super confused by this video because Paige then
Speaker 1: started to prep food for the flight and she called
Speaker 1: it an aeroplane snack. This seems to be an American thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was a full on meal. She did have
Speaker 1: the awareness to point out that it wasn't normal. So
Speaker 1: she made a healthy, homemade pasta salad, and then she
Speaker 1: packed herself a cheese board in a container, and she
Speaker 1: described the whole process as self care. I'm just glad
Speaker 1: to see people Parona in the fact that they eat
Speaker 1: normal things, Like imagine if it was like, I'm cooking
Speaker 1: up this ultra healthy meal.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 1: I love that she had a cheese board. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it looked delicious, But I want to point out
Speaker 1: she wasn't flying cattle class. She was flying first class,
Speaker 1: so she had her own little pod. She had access
Speaker 1: to amazing food, so I was very confused why she
Speaker 1: would pack her own. Maybe it's just because she travels
Speaker 1: so often that she doesn't really like the food. Like personally,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm obviously not traveling first class, but aeroplane
Speaker 1: food always upsets my stomach. I did get upgraded once
Speaker 1: to business class, and the food was so much better.
Speaker 1: I have to say, though, if I packed myself a
Speaker 1: whole cheese board, I think that would upset my stomach. True. Now, unsurprisingly,
Speaker 1: the flight attendants went above and beyond to make her
Speaker 1: feel very comfortable.
Speaker 2: We took off, and then another one of the sweetest
Speaker 2: amount I've ever met in my whole life literally offered
Speaker 2: to make me my bed to sleep. He was so cute,
Speaker 2: and I say, I literally could pray. I wanted to
Speaker 2: give him the world. He literally like tucked me into bed.
Speaker 2: I could sab he was an angel on this earth.
Speaker 1: Did you feel myself being tucked in?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Was this? Yes? Oh god, this was so awkward. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the definition of pretty privilege here. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but those flight attendants aren't just tucking anyone in. This
Speaker 1: was an older man who tucked her in. Oh god. Now,
Speaker 1: if there's anyone else I should be following any more wags,
Speaker 1: please let me know, because I just love being a
Speaker 1: fly on the wall of their life and vicariously living
Speaker 1: my dream of being a tennis wag. Well, you've got
Speaker 1: your phone in your hand at the moment, so I'm
Speaker 1: sure TikTok is listening to every word you're saying and
Speaker 1: it's going to serve it up in your algorithm. Let's
Speaker 1: get into our Friday features. So if I'll kick us off,
Speaker 1: my Friday feature is the return of Love Island UK
Speaker 1: All Stars. So it is now streaming on nine now.
Speaker 1: It started on Wednesday, and I am so excited because
Speaker 1: Eck and Sue is back and it means and that
Speaker 1: means one thing. Dave Day is definitely returning as a bombshell.
Speaker 1: If he comes in as a bombshell, I'm going to
Speaker 1: put it out there. This is going to be the
Speaker 1: best series of Love Island. All of my favorites are back.
Speaker 1: We've got Luca Bish. He is a controversial favorite because
Speaker 1: he got a bit of a bad rap in that series.
Speaker 1: I thought he was hilarious. He was told he was controlling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to see him without Gemma because he really
Speaker 1: locked himself down early with her. I want to see
Speaker 1: him be a bit of a player. Well, he was
Speaker 1: very respectful because it did get brought up on the
Speaker 1: show what would you do if Gemma was brought in?
Speaker 1: And he said he would actually leave because he would
Speaker 1: want her to have a great experience there without him,
Speaker 1: And I think that people wanted to try and get
Speaker 1: the dirt about her, and he was very respectful, didn't
Speaker 1: say anything. People are saying that he seems to have
Speaker 1: a crush on Eck and Suit I haven't watched it
Speaker 1: yet because we are pre recording this on Wednesday before
Speaker 1: the episode has dropped. I've only seen a few little
Speaker 1: features on Instagram, but people are like, oh, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: definitely keen on Eck and Sue, but doesn't want to
Speaker 1: say anything. I'm a little concerned because there have been
Speaker 1: reports in the Sun that Eck and Sue only agreed
Speaker 1: to come back on the proviso that David eight does
Speaker 1: not make a return. I'm hoping that's bullshit and that
Speaker 1: they're trying to just not be ultra obvious because last year,
Speaker 1: when the All Stars series aired for the first time,
Speaker 1: it was quite a surprise to see Love Island bringing
Speaker 1: back people's exes. It felt very much reminiscent of X
Speaker 1: on the Beach. It was a great new element. Though.
Speaker 1: Have you seen they've brought back Casey for a third
Speaker 1: year in a row. He was on I think the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four series. He then returned for the All
Speaker 1: Star series, and he's back again. I'm not interested in
Speaker 1: seeing him. I know you liked him on TikTok. Oh. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's why he's back, because he's super popular on TikTok
Speaker 1: Now that must be why there were some people that
Speaker 1: didn't recognize. Like, again, we are prerecording this, so I
Speaker 1: haven't actually sat down, but I'm like, who is that?
Speaker 1: And who is that? On Instagram? I thought that Curtis
Speaker 1: was Andrew. Oh Andrew, Yes, we Tashed confused because I'm like,
Speaker 1: aren't he and Tash still together? But Curtis. Curtis has
Speaker 1: actually been partnered up with Eck and Sue, So Eck
Speaker 1: and Sue picked him, which really surprised me. I cannot
Speaker 1: see the two of them getting along with at all.
Speaker 1: I can because he and Mara didn't make sense, but
Speaker 1: then they kind of worked. I mean they did, they
Speaker 1: were together off the show for a little while. Maybe
Speaker 1: he wants a very strong woman like Eck and Sue.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't see Ek and Sue sticking with
Speaker 1: the first person that she picked. She's gonna be making
Speaker 1: out with someone on the terrace. God, if only they
Speaker 1: could get Molly May and Tommy Fury on there, Like,
Speaker 1: how much money do you think they'd have to pay
Speaker 1: to get them back? Lass, I don't think there's any
Speaker 1: money in the world. Because Molly May has worked very
Speaker 1: hard to distance herself from I suppose to perceived tackiness
Speaker 1: of the show and be seen as this celebrity in
Speaker 1: her own right. Imagine that if she popped up as
Speaker 1: a bombshell, she won't. There's no way in hell that
Speaker 1: she will. Now, So what's your Friday feature? So I
Speaker 1: want to talk about my recent Christmas present I received,
Speaker 1: and it is a Smeg mixer. So I was shocked
Speaker 1: to receive this because I knew that we were giving
Speaker 1: Amy a Smeg mixer for Christmas, and my husband's family
Speaker 1: were very generous and gifted me one. Luckily, they're different colors,
Speaker 1: so I've got the white, Amy's got the black, You've
Speaker 1: got the peak. Imagine leaving them around each other's houses
Speaker 1: getting confused. I know now I haven't used it yet
Speaker 1: because I feel a lot of pressure because you, Kate,
Speaker 1: are the queen of the kitchen. I growing up very
Speaker 1: much loved cooking, but I was your Sioux chef and
Speaker 1: I want to learn how to make your cinnamon scroll.
Speaker 1: So I've asked for the recipe, but you have told
Speaker 1: me that there's a few tricks with this recipe adding
Speaker 1: extra butter, so I will have to share how I
Speaker 1: go over the weekend. Yeah, so the recipe is from
Speaker 1: Ambitious Kitchen. But I actually tried to make it, I
Speaker 1: think three or four times before actually mastering really so,
Speaker 1: I found that the dough was too dry, so I
Speaker 1: add extra butter. I'm actually very nervous now to hear
Speaker 1: that this has taken you quite a number of attempts,
Speaker 1: because my husband's like, could you please make cinnamon scrolls.
Speaker 1: I love Kate cinnamon scroll doesn't actually like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he likes them. I need to cook them again, I
Speaker 1: hope because the machine is so esthetically pleasing it will
Speaker 1: somehow make my cooking better. I hate to tell you,
Speaker 1: but it won't. Okay, well, at least I don't have
Speaker 1: to get a sore arm from mixing. I think that
Speaker 1: is all we have time for today. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining us for this episode. If you have
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