1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers Now. 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: Some time ago I interviewed the amazing Amanda Keller on 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: the Happy Families Podcast. Well, a lot has happened since 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 2: we first dropped that podcast episode. One thing that hasn't 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: changed is Amanda's continued success on FM radio, where she 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: just last week won the Commercial Radio Australia Award for 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: the Best on Air Team with her co host Brenda 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: Jones on WSFM in Sydney. Amanda is just such a 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: stellar human being, and in light of her winning the 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: award and being extremely grateful and emotional about it, not 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: that it's the first time she's won this award, but 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: there was something different about it this time. In light 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: of that, I wanted to replay her incredible interview with 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: insights that can help every single parent. Amanda, thanks for 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: joining me on the Happy Families Lightning Round. 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: Thrilled to be here. 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: Tell us how many kids you have and how old 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 2: they are, Amanda, I have. 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: Two sons, Liam is twenty one and Jack is nineteen. 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: Now a well publicized story that you had these kids 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: through IVF and it was a very very long process 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,639 Speaker 2: for you. Do you have a favorite child. 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: I don't have a favorite child, and if I did, 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: it probably would wax and weigh and change from day 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: to day. Liam is very much like my husband. He's 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: I think, quite linear, clear thinking, droll and dry in 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: his humor. Jack is probably more like me and up 29 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: and down and hilarious, and so I kind of give 30 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: in to him. Liam is wanting of nothing. Jack is 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: wanting of everything. And I remember growing up and never 32 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: getting what I wanted, so often I'll give in to Jack. 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: I love your insight that he's like you because you're hilarious. 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: I love that you own that. That's great. Who do 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: you love the most? 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 1: I didn't even think I said that. That's terrible. 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: It up, But you have the most your partner, Harley 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: or your kids. 39 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Different kinds of love. Probably if a train was coming 40 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: at us, I'd grab the kids. Don't tell Harley, I 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: love it all right now. 42 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: This is obviously a tougher question because of your fertility journey. 43 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 2: Ideal number of kids though, I think two. 44 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 1: I think three means a bigger car. I think two, 45 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: and you know, harder holidays, all that kind of stuff. 46 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: I think too. 47 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, two is convenient, that's for sure. How do 48 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: you rate yourself as a parent, Amanda, give yourself a 49 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: score out of ten. 50 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: Overall, I'd say I'd be a seven. 51 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: What's something great that your parents did that you've tried 52 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: to continue in your parenting. 53 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: My mother and I used to laugh at it, and 54 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: I used to sort of sneer at it. Mum always 55 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: would say, get your piece of paper in the world's 56 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: your oystered because she missed out on a university education 57 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: and so academic things mattered a lot to her. I 58 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: was pushed to study hard at Carlingford High School, my 59 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: local public high school, and I did study hard. And 60 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: I think I've in a way pushed my children. If 61 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: I had a child that wasn't reading, or a child 62 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: that didn't do their homework, I'd really struggle with that. 63 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: So I think I've taken my mum's love of apostrophes 64 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: and punctuation and love of education and try I think 65 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: subconsciously or maybe consciously instilled that in them. 66 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: Got a fun question for you, Who's the better parent? 67 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: You are? Harley High and I tag team with our parenting. 68 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: I was thinking the other day I was asking him 69 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 1: something about that, I said, do you think I'm too 70 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be doing this or this? I thought, how 71 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: hard it is for single parents who don't have anyone 72 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: to bounce that stuff off. That's really that would be 73 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: very hard because I can't tell whether I'm being too 74 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: hard or too indulgent or whatever it is. I have 75 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: no gauge on that. So he's much more pragmatic than 76 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: I am, and he's much more just getting on with 77 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: it than I am. I'm sort of filibustering at the word, 78 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: around the detail and around the fluffy bits, whereas he's 79 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: pretty straightforward. So between the two of us, Yin and Yang, 80 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: we make a whole parent. 81 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: I love your empathy, and I also love the way 82 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: you completely avoided deciding who was better out of you 83 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: and Harley. Ah ha ha, Okay, what's the hardest thing, 84 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: Amanda Kella about being a parent? 85 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: I found teaching them to drive one of the hardest things. Yes, 86 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: so hard. Yes that was terrible, and Harley didn't want 87 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: to do it, and I didn't want to do it. 88 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: But it's made me a terrible passenger. I used to 89 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: not care about being a passenger, and now I'm even 90 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: in an uber I'm jumpy and I'm looking at where 91 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: the curb is. I found that bit really hard. And 92 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: there's a guy that a whole of my friends were 93 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: using who would help them kids get the hours up 94 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: without you having to do it. I love the idea 95 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: of being in a car with my sons and driving, 96 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: but when they're learning to drive, it's not that it's 97 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't calm. I made them stressed. It was terrible. 98 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: I think I found that one of the hardest bits. 99 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: I'm a parenting expert. I'm not supposed to get mad 100 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: at my kids. I'm supposed to know how to do 101 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: all this sort of stuff. But as I've taught my 102 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: kids to drive, I've found that my capacity to be 103 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: patient and kind when my life is in danger every 104 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: fourteen seconds is almost zero. And I've found things coming 105 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: out of my mouth that I just don't I don't 106 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 2: say these things. I specially don't say these things about 107 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: all to my children, and sure enough I was doing it. 108 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: I love your answer on that question. 109 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: Thank you. I think I called out, oh, you're freaking idiot, 110 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: and my own child. 111 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: It wasn't someone out the window, it was the beginning 112 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: side the car. Amanda now that your kids are of age. 113 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: If you could spend an hour with your children at 114 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 2: any age, what age would you choose? 115 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: And why is it just an hour? Do you know what? 116 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: Yes, but we've had other people who have extended it 117 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: for a week, let's say, a period of time. 118 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: I think only because I'm in the hormonal drop zone 119 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: of my children leaving home. I love. I have mixed 120 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: emotions when I see little toddlers at the beach with 121 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: their parents and the toddler reaches up to hold mum's 122 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: hand and they're running around with their little baby voices 123 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: and they sit on your lap. I miss that. I 124 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: just miss it. I think probably one day of that 125 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: would be great, And then one day maybe at ten 126 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: and eight, where they're funny and it's easy, and you go, oh, 127 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: we're in the drop zone. I think ten and eight 128 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: are the drop zone. That was brilliant but was recently 129 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: went to Hamilton Island for holiday and my brother came 130 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: over and he took my sons for a beer, and 131 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: I thought, how great that they're at an age now 132 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: where they can be seen as adults. That was a 133 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: wonderful thing. And I like us all sitting down around 134 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: a table. Now, I'll do anything. I'll book a holiday 135 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: to get us away where they know no one else 136 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: and the four of us have to sit and have breakfast, 137 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: lunch and dinner together. Is my dream. I'll go to 138 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: Iraq for a holiday if I get to do that. 139 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: So a snippet of them being babies, a snippet of 140 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: those charming, hilarious years eight and ten, and a snippet 141 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: of now, and if that could make up one day, 142 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: that would be my dream. 143 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: Well, it's certainly cheating that I love your answer. What's 144 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: the ultimate joy for you as a parent? 145 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: For many years, I didn't think anyone would call me mum? 146 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: And I still think that, even though they're nineteen and 147 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: twenty one. I still sometimes think. I can hear a 148 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: key in the door, and I play this game with 149 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: myself and I think the person who comes through here 150 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: is my child and I'm still blown away by it. 151 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm still blown away by it. So that's something amazing 152 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: that I'll never get over. 153 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: Well, you got me, you got me weeping? Well done. 154 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: What's that thing that your parents always said that you 155 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: swore you would never say, but it keeps popping out 156 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: of your mouth? 157 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: Oh there's a few of those. You know, it's not 158 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: even a phrase. It's just when I'd go to do 159 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: something and Mom would say, have you thought about this? 160 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: And I'd say, no, I don't want to do that, 161 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: or you know, even if it's something as simple as 162 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: take a card again, No, God, you might be a 163 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: bit cold. No, I'm not going to do that. You're 164 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: sure you won't be cold. And I hated it when 165 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: Mum did it. I do it all the time, and 166 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: even now when I speak to them if there's something 167 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: about applying for a course or something, the form they 168 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: have to fill out at the end of every conversation, 169 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: I almost have to stitch my mouth closed. So I 170 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: don't nag them because I hated it happening to me, 171 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: and I try so hard not to be that person, 172 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: but I can't help myself. 173 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: What's the boys favorite thing to do with you? 174 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: I do, obviously say favorite thing, but we're at our best. 175 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: I think when we're all sitting around a table having 176 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: a meal, and it's best if it's in a restaurant 177 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: so no one can leave and no one can be 178 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: on their phones or do any of that. Where captive. 179 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: If we had to go into witness protection or something. 180 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: I'd be quite happy locked in. So that's my favorite 181 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: thing to do with them. Theirs to do with me 182 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: is maybe when we're sitting around watching football match on 183 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: the telly something like that, or we're watching them play football. 184 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: That's where we're at our best. 185 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: I think my mum's vision of heaven is all six 186 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: of her kids sitting around the dining table sharing a meal, 187 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: just like you described. 188 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: I often I'm away. I'm going to cry again. I've 189 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: got a couple of friends who've had some cancer battles 190 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: and they had to do a vision board. And a 191 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: friend her children, they were same age as mine. They 192 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: are probably only five and six at the time. Her 193 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: vision board was watching her boys play rugby. And she's 194 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: fine now. But every match I'd stand next to her 195 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: watching the game, and I think, no one here knows 196 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: what this means to any We all have our own 197 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: story of what we think as we're watching that game, 198 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: and what means to us and those you know sitting 199 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: around the table watching them play football. The detail of 200 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: life is small. The big dreams aren't big, they're small. 201 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: The carrots we need to dangle for ourselves are small. 202 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: And that's where the richness of life is it's in 203 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: the detail. It's you know, that's the stuff. 204 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: And that three questions and then this lightning round wraps 205 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: up number one. What are you most looking forward to 206 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: as a parent? 207 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: The words that want to come out, that will come 208 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: out are you know, healthy, smart, empathetic. But I just 209 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: want that door to open and these fabulous sons walk in. 210 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: That's all I want is these fabulous boys that I'm 211 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: proud of, who love me and I love them, and 212 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: that's that's all I require of them. 213 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: I love talking to you. 214 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: I love talking to you. Made me cry a lot today, 215 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: justin it's not fair. 216 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: If you could go back to you as a young mum. Well, 217 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: I know you've said you weren't such a young mom 218 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 2: because the IVF thing took so long, but. 219 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty eight years old. 220 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: You were still an inexperienced mum. If you could go 221 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 2: back to you being so inexperienced and having one of 222 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: those tough moments, what advice now would you give yourself 223 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: and hope that you would listen to. 224 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: Don't be scared. You're not going to break them. Sure 225 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: they may fall down the stairs on your watch, but 226 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: you're not going to break them and it's going to 227 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: be okay. You can't stuff this up. You're not going 228 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: to stuff this up. Don't fear It'll all work out okay, 229 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: because I think that's what I felt, that how responsible 230 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: I was to not stuff them up. But we're all 231 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: going to stuff them up in some way, and that's 232 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: the joy of life. That's why as we're talking, you know, 233 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: you talk about this with your friends, your family, how 234 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: crazy families are. How can you not have that in 235 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: your own family? 236 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: Amanda final question, what's been your biggest win as a mum? 237 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to answer that. I think 238 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: my biggest when there was an article recently the Women's 239 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: Weekly where both my sons gave quotes. Because you don't 240 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: know how they perceive you, and I know that I'm 241 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: loved and I know that they love their family, but 242 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: they both said such lovely things that when you see 243 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: it written down, you think, oh, I have done a 244 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: good job. Who knew that that would have to come 245 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: from the Women's Weekly. Sometimes you need to see it 246 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: in a different context and seeing the written words they'd 247 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: taken the time to answer for a journalist and to 248 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: say those lovely things. It just absolutely meant the world 249 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: to me. 250 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: This has been such a beautiful lightning round. Amanda, Thank 251 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: you for making our day loved. 252 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: Thank you. 253 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 2: That was Amanda Keller, one of Australia's best known female 254 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: radio TV presenters and just a fabulous, wonderful lightning round. 255 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: The Happy Families podcast is produced by Justin Ruland for 256 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: Bridge Media. Craig Bruce is our executive producer. More about 257 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: making your family happier, please visits at happy families dot 258 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: com dot au 259 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: MHM