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Speaker 1: And Amanda gam Nation. Well, hello, how nice to talk

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Speaker 1: to you, and this movie is any crew is an

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Speaker 1: amazing thing, and your first directorial debut. I remember reading

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Speaker 1: an interview with David Lean, who directed Lawrence of Arabia,

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Speaker 1: and he said, on the first day he turned up,

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Speaker 1: there's thousands of extras looking at him and he thought,

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Speaker 1: oh God, what do I do now? Did you have

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Speaker 1: a moment like that on your first day?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Not my first days. I make sure my first day

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Speaker 3: was exactly what I needed to be, but there was.

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Speaker 3: It was definitely a moment I guess when you have

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Speaker 3: your your cast and your crew and you know, and

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Speaker 3: everybody's looking at you like, all right, what are we

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Speaker 3: doing next? Even in moments of like you know when

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Speaker 3: you have to pivot and you have to adapt to

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Speaker 3: the situation. Okay, cool, this person didn't show up on time,

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Speaker 3: or that thing that you need is not there for

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Speaker 3: the shot. Okay, so where do we do? We got

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Speaker 3: to shoot something. I think in those moments is like

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Speaker 3: where you really feel the most alive and problem solving

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Speaker 3: and figuring out whatever you got to do to get

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Speaker 3: get the job done. But as a whole you know,

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Speaker 3: I think just you know, showing up the set every

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Speaker 3: day was was a dream man, It was.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: How did you feel as an actor stepping into the

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Speaker 1: role again for the third time. Did your body go,

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Speaker 1: oh God, here we go again, or does your body

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Speaker 1: like getting revved up to play this role.

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Speaker 3: I think it's both. I think as I get older,

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Speaker 3: this is not the same. You know, I think I'm

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Speaker 3: not twenty five years old anymore, you know, So it's

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Speaker 3: like like that, it's a difference thirty thirty six and

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Speaker 3: twenty five. There is a difference when it comes to

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Speaker 3: get ship. So you know, I think, you know, for me,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm used to it. So, I mean, I

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Speaker 3: know the you know, the formula, you know, I know

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Speaker 3: the diet, I know you know, you know, you know,

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Speaker 3: the sleep they're working out and the water. I get

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Speaker 3: what it takes to change your body. But this time,

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Speaker 3: with the amount of time that I had to actually

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Speaker 3: do that compared to the other movies, was cutting half

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Speaker 3: was cutting you know in the third actually, so so

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Speaker 3: it was it was tough this time around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We asked Jonathan just before we expec to you about

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Speaker 4: what happened to Truckie in this one, because there's been

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Speaker 4: a conjecture about where he goes. He guys to Canada

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Speaker 4: to look for his son or he's this indication that

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Speaker 4: he might have passed away, and he ducked and weaved

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Speaker 4: the question. He said, oh, no, well you should ask

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Speaker 4: Michael that when he comes on. That's what he said.

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Speaker 3: He told that, I told him. I'm told I told

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Speaker 3: him to ask you. He said, no, I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's be you know, listen, this is this

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Speaker 3: is a this is a is a Cree franchise, right,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's you know, you know, very much so.

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Speaker 3: The first two films was a Donna's figuring out his

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Speaker 3: own last name of what he wanted to accept, and

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Speaker 3: very much so about Rocky and Apollo. You know, same

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Speaker 3: thing in the second film. You know, it's really about

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Speaker 3: him coming out of Apollo's you know, shadow and becoming

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Speaker 3: his own. In this movie, it's you know, at some

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Speaker 3: point you have to tell the story of Creed, you know,

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Speaker 3: and you have to continue that, you know, moving toward

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Speaker 3: that experience and that in that black experience. You know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, The experience of you know, what a

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Speaker 3: Donna's Creed might be going through at that time, and

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Speaker 3: that that childhood trauma you know, what happened in this past.

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Speaker 3: So this is kind of like a origin story of sorts,

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Speaker 3: you know, for Donna's Creed and Dammi and Anderson. So

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Speaker 3: we had to go back to those childhood traumas, those uh,

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Speaker 3: those you know, those transformative years that that we that

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Speaker 3: we all have as children, that we carry with us.

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Speaker 3: Some we want to forget, some are really too painful,

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Speaker 3: some we don't want to address, and we kind of

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Speaker 3: move on. But at some point you got to talk

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Speaker 3: about those feelings getting in the you know, toxic maxillinity

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Speaker 3: and and the frameworks of our story. That's and that's

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Speaker 3: what we felt like was needed for this franchise to

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Speaker 3: move forward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a very very modern taught lesson of what

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Speaker 1: it is to be a man to start to think

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Speaker 1: about those things exactly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, tell them and you're not stuck at in the

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Speaker 4: desert yelling at people through a bullhorn, which is pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: can I just do this one little bit so we

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Speaker 4: can wrap it upside of that ruin for the right

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Speaker 4: yet and you don't have to he keep talking having

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Speaker 4: me you know that in the desert with a bullhorn, yelling.

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Speaker 2: At sixteen thousand you keep doing it. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: wrap this up. I'm trying to wrap it up and

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Speaker 2: you're wrapping me up. Stop and that's when you say yes,

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Speaker 2: and we can hop it up and we can leave.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Good job mate, Thank you