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Speaker 1: Jes and Amanda jam Nyson down.

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Speaker 2: To the jonesy De matter of arms to the pub test.

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Speaker 2: In the Sydney Morning Herald the other day there was

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Speaker 2: an opinion piece by Shane Wright titled hate all the

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Speaker 2: monster utes on our streets? Your tax dollars help pay

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Speaker 2: for them. I think you might remember this story. During

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Speaker 2: the pandemic, the Morrison government increased the maximum ride off

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Speaker 2: to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for tradees, utes

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Speaker 2: and stuff. Do you remember that?

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Speaker 3: Sales of them obviously through the roof.

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Speaker 2: That's why. And if you've noticed lately there's a million

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Speaker 2: of those Dodge Rams. You've got the Raptors, the Rangers,

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Speaker 2: the Highluxes, there's so many. If it's one of our

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Speaker 2: biggest selling vehicles now.

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Speaker 3: And many of them are being used as family transporters.

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you if you've got that giant tax ride

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Speaker 3: off when you bought one. But having said that, they

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Speaker 3: take up a lot of space on our roads. They

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Speaker 3: take up a lot of space when they're parking. It's

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Speaker 3: hard to see around them in the traffic. Our streets

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Speaker 3: of Chocolate block with them.

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Speaker 2: And for disclosure, I've got to add a land Cruise,

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Speaker 2: which I laugh. I've had it for a thousand years,

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Speaker 2: but nineteen ninety four model eighty series land Cras and

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Speaker 2: I drive it probably once a month when I'm moving

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Speaker 2: staff or towing stuff. But I wouldn't drive it every day.

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Speaker 3: The streets near where I live, it's so hard to

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Speaker 3: get around because people are parking these big cars driving

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Speaker 3: up tiny streets. It's really really hard. So how do

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Speaker 3: you feel large four wheel drives so they pass the

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Speaker 3: pub test?

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Speaker 1: Yes, they do, especially for me as I tail horses

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Speaker 1: and those.

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Speaker 4: Type of things, and I need all the space for

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Speaker 4: all the all the gear.

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Speaker 1: Sos are very important for me to have a football drive.

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Speaker 5: They certainly do. I have a Toyota Prado, which is

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Speaker 5: like a smaller version of Jones's land Cruiser. Great the

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Speaker 5: kids when they were in their car seats, because you

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Speaker 5: didn't have to bend down to put them in. I

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Speaker 5: think they're great for families.

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Speaker 1: Oh look that they are a good thing. And nine

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Speaker 1: times eight times out of ten you're getting used for

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Speaker 1: the wrong purpose. What they should do is turn.

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Speaker 5: Around and go.

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Speaker 1: You know, if the only be out at ten, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot more room or black put somewhere yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have one. But if yeah, there are five, doc

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Speaker 1: they should start target.

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Speaker 4: I think if you're a trading and you knowed they

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Speaker 4: passed the pub test, but I think they're a bit

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Speaker 4: over the top. They take up the road and yeah, look,

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Speaker 4: most people aren't using them as trade vehicles. They're using

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Speaker 4: them for family getaways, which is fine too, but you

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Speaker 4: know if the government given tax breaks for them, and

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's rare, so no, they don't pass

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Speaker 4: the pub test.

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Speaker 1: To me, Dad drives the Fall Drive just to get

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Speaker 1: the idea of how big it is. You can could

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Speaker 1: have a double queen beat in the back and he

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Speaker 1: really loves driving it, and why shouldn't he be.

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Speaker 5: Able to drive it. My nineteen year old son has

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Speaker 5: a trade and he has one. He's actually raised it,

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Speaker 5: which is more annoying. And I just they're just horrible

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Speaker 5: on the road. There's so many of them, and they

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Speaker 5: don't pass the pub test at all.

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Speaker 2: Not the first time a mum has it like their

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Speaker 2: son's car.

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Speaker 3: No, but also all those tax incentives that went that way,

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Speaker 3: not towards electric cars, and no one who is so

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Speaker 3: far behind the keep it in church. This is our

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Speaker 3: church Brendan