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Speaker 2: I've been thinking about the water just sitting then I'm like,
Speaker 2: do you think I can still drink it?
Speaker 1: It's been a week hate water in a vessel on
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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it's safe. I have definitely dabbled
Speaker 2: in drinking water that's been sitting in my car for
Speaker 2: too long, you know, like the heat with the plastics.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't do that. But I also shouldn't drink coc cola.
Speaker 1: And here I am also eating a credit card worth
Speaker 1: of plastic every day or something.
Speaker 3: Literally, I'm not scared coming through this.
Speaker 1: I've been through that right now.
Speaker 3: Anyway, let's get on with the show.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Flex and Rooms on kata.
Speaker 2: A new concept just dropped in workplace bludging. It's called
Speaker 2: bare minimum Mondays, and it's a direct response to getting
Speaker 2: the Sunday scaries.
Speaker 3: Now I get the feeling.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people, myself included, will just
Speaker 2: start working on Sunday to get prepared for Monday. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous behavior, it's heinous, it's embarrassing, and it has
Speaker 2: to stop because it's directly contradictory with all this. I'm
Speaker 2: going to work life balancing. Work starts on Monday. What
Speaker 2: are you doing in the emails on Sunday? I will
Speaker 2: give myself a pass. When you own your own business,
Speaker 2: the work doesn't stop. Caneto Who are?
Speaker 3: Who are? Alas?
Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about the concept of quiet quitting,
Speaker 2: and I would say currently in the social zeitgeist, a
Speaker 2: lot is changing around career. Someone said, we've gone We're
Speaker 2: in post career at the moment where there aren't defined
Speaker 2: careers and people just people just work. You know, we
Speaker 2: talk a lot about professionalism, work life balance, working from
Speaker 2: home versus the office, career progression. All of these conversations
Speaker 2: are happening and they're changing quite rapidly, and nobody knows
Speaker 2: what their place is. One thing I will say is
Speaker 2: and one thing I'm happy to see is individuals the
Speaker 2: worker developing the agency enough to realize that you can
Speaker 2: change your environment, like you can move to a new workplace,
Speaker 2: and you also can redefine the way you work. A
Speaker 2: lot of us fall into the trap of wanting to
Speaker 2: be overachievers or wanting to prove that we're worthy of
Speaker 2: the hire, and so we create these habits that come
Speaker 2: back to bite us in the bump. We come early,
Speaker 2: we stay late, we have no boundaries, we don't express
Speaker 2: what we need, we don't ask for support, and then
Speaker 2: we feel overwhelmed and then are forced to do things
Speaker 2: like bare minimum Mondays. So the idea is that you
Speaker 2: don't do any work on Sunday standard, but when you
Speaker 2: come into work on Monday, you don't pressure yourself to
Speaker 2: get much your to do list done. You use your
Speaker 2: Monday as an opportunity to ease back into the work week.
Speaker 2: Maybe do some of those menial tasks or the ones
Speaker 2: that you know will just get you in the right
Speaker 2: head space. Maybe start with some emails, and then by
Speaker 2: Tuesday you're kind of primed into working and then you
Speaker 2: can like get your head in the game. Do I
Speaker 2: have thoughts about this. Yeah, is it gonna work for everyone?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Will most of you get fired? Probably, let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's go boys. You know what kind of like what
Speaker 1: you say about realizing you have the agency to leave,
Speaker 1: It's like the other day I realized I just had
Speaker 1: the agency agency to just eat McDonald's in bed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: It's like you have these random lucid moments of being like, oh, wait,
Speaker 1: I'm an adult and your little child mind goes whoa yeah,
Speaker 1: or like you're driving and you're like, whoa, this is
Speaker 1: my dream when I was fired, literally driving a car.
Speaker 1: Let's bring back those movements.
Speaker 2: But one day I have the sustinct thought of being like,
Speaker 2: I don't know eight and being like and having like
Speaker 2: little boobs when I was like, one day, my boobs
Speaker 2: are going to poke out farther than my stomach and
Speaker 2: that's when I'll be a woman. Can you imagine what
Speaker 2: kind of thoughts did you were you having? Cis you
Speaker 2: had little boobs in your eight Yeah? Cute chubby girl?
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, what doubt?
Speaker 1: What else did I want? When I was young? Blonde hair?
Speaker 1: Can you did that? I did that? I will say
Speaker 1: I do like this concept However, the I think people
Speaker 1: do their emails on the Sunday so that they can
Speaker 1: have a relaxed Monday, because honestly, there is nothing worse
Speaker 1: than coming in and thinking, fuck, I'm gonna sift through
Speaker 1: all this.
Speaker 3: Shit meetings, meetings, emails, emails, talk.
Speaker 1: I've seen some people's calendars, friends of mine. It's all meetings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when do you expect my bitch to be doing the
Speaker 1: actual fucking work.
Speaker 3: I'm always having that conversation.
Speaker 2: I recently put on an out of office, a permanent
Speaker 2: one on my emails because I was like, you, but
Speaker 2: just don't need me as bad as you think you do.
Speaker 1: See this permanent.
Speaker 2: I'm looking two days a week max, not even the
Speaker 2: full day, a couple hours. Here are the people you
Speaker 2: can talk to for specific things. Without it's about Cater,
Speaker 2: go to Brookie. You don't need to talk to me
Speaker 2: about that. I don't need to respond about that. If
Speaker 2: it's a general inquiry, go to the general inquiries. Everyone's
Speaker 2: going straight to Sauce. I just had an experience now
Speaker 2: in real time in Cater. Somebody sent me an email
Speaker 2: about a potential job. Right They want to set up
Speaker 2: a phone call, want to pitch an.
Speaker 1: Idea to me?
Speaker 2: Why have they emailed me, DMed me, linked in, me,
Speaker 2: emailed my assistant, emailed my COO, and then gone and
Speaker 2: emailed the head of production at Catera, not email, texted
Speaker 2: to say, if you're in and she's in, do you
Speaker 2: mind grabbing her her and let's have it?
Speaker 3: What is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: Is it that deep?
Speaker 2: I'm at work, babe. It hasn't even this came this morning.
Speaker 2: We haven't even got to the end of the day yet.
Speaker 1: Relax. This is it a good job? I haven't even
Speaker 1: seen it, mate. This could be your big break.
Speaker 2: I've had plenty of big breaks, and I don't want
Speaker 2: to work with someone who has no concept of boundaries.
Speaker 2: That shit is insane, Like there is. There's a gateway
Speaker 2: for a reason. We have emails as the main primary
Speaker 2: source of work communication for a reason. You need to
Speaker 2: start flexing your personal contacts to bypass. Makes me look
Speaker 2: at you funny.
Speaker 3: I don't like that.
Speaker 2: But what I will say is that I do think
Speaker 2: this like heightened uh, like this, like heightened response, like this,
Speaker 2: like quiet, quitting Sunday scaries, burnout Mondays, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: It's like.
Speaker 2: I will say, It's like we've definitely blurred the lines
Speaker 2: with work from home, right. I love work from home,
Speaker 2: done it since what for a decade Now I.
Speaker 1: Think it's sick.
Speaker 2: I also really appreciate the office because there is something
Speaker 2: about just sitting next to the person you work with,
Speaker 2: being like, hey, I've got a question, sort of hey
Speaker 2: can you do get jump off the zooms of an
Speaker 2: email and whatever. But we went into it with not
Speaker 2: a lot of guidelines, and now we're looking at the
Speaker 2: consequence of that. The contact of burnout doesn't go because
Speaker 2: you bludged on a Monday. Now you've got four days
Speaker 2: to figure out what you need to do. What you
Speaker 2: really need is resources and assistant and support and help,
Speaker 2: not ways to compromise your career and your job as
Speaker 2: like a rebellious response to the fact that you don't
Speaker 2: have any support and a lista. I feel like, what's
Speaker 2: that phrase? There's nobody bigger than the business. I've seen
Speaker 2: really amazing people be made redundant. I've seen, really for me,
Speaker 2: I've seen really amazing people be cast aside.
Speaker 1: I've seen really.
Speaker 2: Amazing people give give give more hours than required, their
Speaker 2: personal networks, their health, their time, their energy, their money,
Speaker 2: to cultivating a good career and have been fired and
Speaker 2: let go. So your solution to you burn out and
Speaker 2: like Bareman and Mondays and whatever, is to really have
Speaker 2: some good thoughts about like how much you really are
Speaker 2: giving because you pulling back to do your actual job
Speaker 2: is like a risk you can take, but it's also
Speaker 2: a decision you made in the beginning.
Speaker 3: Take some accountability. Let's switch up some things.
Speaker 1: And it's okay as you get older to careless.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or care more about yourself flex and rooms on kata.
Speaker 1: My name is Lucinda Froome's price government name. Your name
Speaker 1: is Lilian Rose and Hanken.
Speaker 3: Where's Rose coming from?
Speaker 1: Just giving a rose fin?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take it. Do you have a midle name,
Speaker 3: not like a government one?
Speaker 1: Nice? I found this TikTok about what our last names mean.
Speaker 1: Play it DJ, I.
Speaker 5: Bet you have people in your phone with names such
Speaker 5: as John Landlord or Hannah it t What I think
Speaker 5: is cool about this is we've kind of come full
Speaker 5: circle as to how surnames were formed hundreds of years ago.
Speaker 5: If Hannah had been a baker back in the day,
Speaker 5: she would have been Hannah Baker or Carpenter or Fisher,
Speaker 5: and these are examples of what we call occupational surnames.
Speaker 5: Maybe some people are in your phone based on where
Speaker 5: they're from or where you met them, such as Sarah Inferno's.
Speaker 5: These are called toponymic surnames, and they can often be
Speaker 5: based on specific places. Jack London's ancestors will have come
Speaker 5: from London. Well, they can be based on geographical features.
Speaker 5: Might look like Brad Pitt's family will have come from
Speaker 5: will have lived near a Pitts, while Wayne Bridge's family
Speaker 5: will have lived near a Bridge and hopefully far away
Speaker 5: from the Terryes. Maybe you have some people with names
Speaker 5: such as Charles Andrew's brother, but these family and relationships
Speaker 5: are pretty common, although usually from father to son, so
Speaker 5: Stevenson will be son of Stephen, while MacDonald comes from
Speaker 5: son of Donald. Lastly, we have nicknames. Maybe some people
Speaker 5: in your phone are listed as things like Michael the
Speaker 5: Racist or Lourie Legend, and that's another source of surnames
Speaker 5: from hundreds of years ago. If your surname is short,
Speaker 5: then your ancestor was probably being mocked by his village mates.
Speaker 5: Like likewise peacock. It was a name that was often
Speaker 5: given to people who were seen as vain or arrogant.
Speaker 2: Wow, this is more Caucasian core. I'm like going through
Speaker 2: my friends, I'm like, okay, that doesn't really work.
Speaker 3: What does Lee mean?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: What is maliono? Okay, that doesn't like that's.
Speaker 2: So Lucinda Frum's price, Yes, banker tax people hated tax price.
Speaker 1: I will say Frooms comes from a word called from
Speaker 1: which is like river nice. So we come from a
Speaker 1: river folk. Yes, and you are a prices true true.
Speaker 1: I thought that was really cool.
Speaker 3: So Brooke Taylor producer, Brooke Taylor.
Speaker 1: Taylor Stressers. I did see a comment that said, where
Speaker 1: did Dickinson come from? Son of Richard?
Speaker 3: Okay, have a thing be for real mature.
Speaker 1: We also have a special guest in the studio, Claire.
Speaker 3: Do you want to be docked?
Speaker 1: Last name Harrison? Where's that from? Claire? The son of Harry,
Speaker 1: son of Harry? And you know that for a fact? Yep, gumption, gumption.
Speaker 5: I like that.
Speaker 1: It's cool.
Speaker 2: Oh I wish people took names more seriously. Gosh, it
Speaker 2: really does paint such a beautiful picture of who you
Speaker 2: are or who you're going to be. I come from matriarchy.
Speaker 2: Did I know that when I name myself, flex Mammy, No,
Speaker 2: I did not.
Speaker 1: It's because you have DNA and learned experience genetics. That's it, Kat,
Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 3: You're listening to flex and Frooms.
Speaker 1: What the frick FLEXI. We have another listener submission. Her
Speaker 1: name is Catherine, not to be confused with Karen, though
Speaker 1: same with a k. She's sending this voice message about aliens.
Speaker 1: It's one of your community flex player.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Hi, Flexen Trooms. Hope you're doing well. I
Speaker 4: just have an alien question. I'd love you too, guys
Speaker 4: to debate. Okay, here it is what cycle called tactics?
Speaker 4: Would aliens use on us? And if so, do you
Speaker 4: think they're already being used on us? Would love to
Speaker 4: hear what do you guys think.
Speaker 1: Any tactic that an alien users is not psychological? They've
Speaker 1: got one finger and you got one corn hole, and
Speaker 1: that's all say.
Speaker 3: Not you being ablest?
Speaker 1: Who who came up with the with the idea that
Speaker 1: aliens probe you op your ass? One of your community,
Speaker 1: for sure, I'm serious.
Speaker 2: One comedian who loved poor human too much and he
Speaker 2: was documented, the only one who was documented, and so
Speaker 2: we just went with it. I would say if aliens
Speaker 2: came down now and we were exposed to them visually,
Speaker 2: like we're like, okay, they'll they've all clocked it. I
Speaker 2: think what they would do is like the Stanford prison experiments.
Speaker 2: They would divide us, right, and they'd be like, okay,
Speaker 2: we're picking path population. You guys are who we've identified
Speaker 2: as superior and premium, the other half are not. We're
Speaker 2: going to come back and check on you and give
Speaker 2: you tasks and things to accomplish. But in the meantime,
Speaker 2: just continue as you were and we'll be back. And
Speaker 2: I think people would slowly start to almost settle into
Speaker 2: that role of being like, well, they said, I'm superior,
Speaker 2: and then they'd be like global warfare, the supremes and
Speaker 2: the regular people freaking out, no longer able to coexist
Speaker 2: because the aliens gave them a title, and those who
Speaker 2: were given the superior title are obviously going to a
Speaker 2: rise to that occasion. This supreme being has also recognized
Speaker 2: that in me, I'm not one, are you? And then,
Speaker 2: as you say, the common folk are going to feel
Speaker 2: really demotivated and demoralized that these people who don't even
Speaker 2: go here have just landed and can already clock that
Speaker 2: I'm inferior. Well, I must be, and then they're going
Speaker 2: to start like civil warfare or something.
Speaker 1: Did aliens create capitalism? Nah? No, that seems like an
Speaker 1: alien thing to do. If we're here to segregate. I
Speaker 1: just think like it's taken. Maybe it was like small scale.
Speaker 1: They're just seeing like how it was going to fit. Perhaps, Yeah,
Speaker 1: someone built the pyramids. This is flex and Froomeskita.
Speaker 2: Am I the asshole for letting my roommate go hungry
Speaker 2: because I can't figure out how food works? That is
Speaker 2: the question we're answering today on flex and rooms. Comprehension
Speaker 2: hats they're on, baby, they're on my roommate. Tammy and
Speaker 2: I are both on fairly limited budgets. I get a
Speaker 2: little help for my parents. There we go, there we go,
Speaker 2: say the chest, So I have a little bit of
Speaker 2: buffer in my income. Gosh, little little little little. I
Speaker 2: tend to make meals for myself where I'll have leftover,
Speaker 2: so I can skip making myself a lunch or a
Speaker 2: dinner later on in the week. Tammy, on the other hand,
Speaker 2: makes each meal as precisely as she cans, so she
Speaker 2: doesn't waste her money. She says, just two ways of
Speaker 2: cooking meals. I guess just after Christmas last year, Tammy
Speaker 2: was very low on money and asked if she could
Speaker 2: please have some of my leftovers.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: Instead of serving herself a small portion to see if
Speaker 2: she would like my food, she just took a full portion.
Speaker 2: She ate about a quarter of what she took and
Speaker 2: threw the rest in the trash. I didn't say anything.
Speaker 2: Almost the same exact thing happened two weeks ago. This
Speaker 2: time I asked her to try and be a little
Speaker 2: bit more mindful before she took a full portion. She
Speaker 2: said she was really hungry. Again, almost an entire meal
Speaker 2: in the trash two nights ago, asked for my spaghetti.
Speaker 2: I said no, it isn't really gonna affect me for
Speaker 2: her to throw away a meal, but it means she's
Speaker 2: wasting not just my money, but my time that I
Speaker 2: spent getting the ingredients, preparing the food.
Speaker 1: All that stuff.
Speaker 3: Now she isn't talking to me, but she's complaining.
Speaker 2: To other people about me being cheap and letting her staff.
Speaker 2: But I'm not actually go her a box of generic
Speaker 2: mac and cheese for how to eat. I'm just not
Speaker 2: gonna watch my hard work literally go into the garbage.
Speaker 2: She thinks I'm being an asshole because I won't share
Speaker 2: my food, but I would share it if she wasn't
Speaker 2: wasting it.
Speaker 3: So am I the asshole?
Speaker 1: Just on principle? Give it up them. Don't tell me
Speaker 1: you're getting hungry when I've gone on, I'm already getting
Speaker 1: mac and Chase.
Speaker 3: From the packet from the box.
Speaker 1: I just don't vibe like if I'm going to share
Speaker 1: my leftovers with you, I need to account for that
Speaker 1: when I'm buying food, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Particularly when it's past her because pasta is better on
Speaker 1: the reheat. I gotta say this is pretty cut and dry.
Speaker 1: It some one FLEXI the asshole is the woman who's
Speaker 1: going hungry. Order uber eats, no sponsor content.
Speaker 5: Order uber eats.
Speaker 1: There's nothing worsancing food going to the bin.
Speaker 2: I will say, I'm very generous friends, I'm a generous girl.
Speaker 2: They offer to cook for me a lot. I often
Speaker 2: don't accept, because if you're going to accept someone's home
Speaker 2: cooked food, you have to finish it. There's no if
Speaker 2: butts or whatever, and you can't get a small, stingy portion.
Speaker 2: It looks bad, it's disrespectful. So it's a TUFA. If
Speaker 2: you can't commit to accepting the food and finishing it,
Speaker 2: then leave it. Also, I understand why Tamy doesn't want
Speaker 2: to cook more than she can eat, but why scoop
Speaker 2: more than you can eat and then throw it out?
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you just put that away if you're not
Speaker 2: gonna be hungry later on?
Speaker 1: Pal move and then now to.
Speaker 2: Go call you stingy after you've been so generous. Tammy
Speaker 2: wants to fight, and I say, let's do it. Fight
Speaker 2: fun as you take literally.
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