WEBVTT - Todd on the pod: Murphy spins back into Test contention

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<v Speaker 1>Australia's cricketers as they take on the world. Hello everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to The Unplayable Podcast. It's the final Test of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ashes. Someone, We've made it to Sydney and now

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<v Speaker 1>we're sitting in the trip Land box ahead of the

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<v Speaker 1>final Test. Louis, it's a big episode coming up. Was

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<v Speaker 1>mcquijor has retired? Todd Murphy's on the show curator chat

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<v Speaker 1>all the fun stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So where do we begin?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of build up to a dead rubber

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<v Speaker 3>Test match. Yes, there are World Test Championship points on

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<v Speaker 3>the line, but the Ashes have have well and truly

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<v Speaker 3>been one. But yeah, there's a there's a big going

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<v Speaker 3>on leading to this one. It was McGuire's press conference

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<v Speaker 3>this morning, I mean nearly an hour long. He fired

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<v Speaker 3>a few shots, he made you know, it was heartfelt,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of it wasn't it, And made some beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>points around you know how he suffered racism as as

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<v Speaker 3>a young kid and how that has kind of shaped

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<v Speaker 3>his career and still does and still does. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's going to be the one that creates

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of headlines over not just today but kind

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<v Speaker 3>of going forward. But yeah, we're farewell in one of

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<v Speaker 3>the great beautiful symmetry that he noticed. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 3>must be spending a bit of time in statsgu I

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<v Speaker 3>reckon because eighty eight tests he will end up playing

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<v Speaker 3>at the SCG. It was forty four before he when

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<v Speaker 3>he got dropped during twenty nineteen ashes, he had about

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen months to twenty four months out of the team

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<v Speaker 3>and since his recall at this ground, the SEG during

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty one twenty two ashes, he will have played

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<v Speaker 3>forty four tests. So as really nice symmetry for all

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<v Speaker 3>the cricket stats nerds, and there's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Few a few, there's some great coverage across all of

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<v Speaker 1>cricket dot com, dot Au and the SA Live app

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<v Speaker 1>of course, honoring Kawaja dropped seven times in eight years

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<v Speaker 1>before he got that run. After those twin times as

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<v Speaker 1>you spoke about, and yeah, very long preference. You can

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<v Speaker 1>watch it all as well on our channels loo for

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<v Speaker 1>those who don't have fifty minutes to spare.

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<v Speaker 2>What sort of were the main talking points out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, he kind of started off by saying, so

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<v Speaker 3>his family initially lived, he said, a stone throw away

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<v Speaker 3>from the SCG in a really small two bedroom flat

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<v Speaker 3>when they moved from from Pakistan when he was a

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<v Speaker 3>young little tucker and he saw Michael Slater roll up

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<v Speaker 3>to the s CG in a red Ferrari and that

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<v Speaker 3>was one of his enduring memories. And you know, he

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<v Speaker 3>subsequently moved to the family moved to Western Sydney, and

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<v Speaker 3>he called them hard streets and you know, experienced, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of a lot of things, heard a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of things he said he couldn't repeat in the press conference.

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<v Speaker 3>This is all stuff he's spoken about a lot before.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it was it was nice and it

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<v Speaker 3>was important that he repeated it because I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he made the point and I think we would all

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<v Speaker 3>agree Cricket's got a long way to go to to

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<v Speaker 3>atone for some of the issues that he's that he's

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<v Speaker 3>encountered in which a lot of people still do encounter.

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<v Speaker 3>And then yeah, just I mean, what you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>gap that is gonna it's gonna be left by him

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<v Speaker 3>when he when he calls time. It's a funny one,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't it, Because we've talked a lot about the opening

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<v Speaker 3>hole that he filled, and David Warren had all these

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<v Speaker 3>partners and finally he got one in Usmond Kwaja, who

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<v Speaker 3>was a reliable, steady presence. Yes, we know Kuaja's results

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<v Speaker 3>of the last eighteen months just about have diminished in

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<v Speaker 3>that time, and they've kind of neatly found a decent

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<v Speaker 3>kind of replacement in Travis ed and Jake Weatherley.

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<v Speaker 4>So it kind of feels out of all times.

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<v Speaker 3>He could about out, well, he's actually bowing out with

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<v Speaker 3>you know, having given away to his replacements. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he spoke a little bit about that, and yeah, just

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<v Speaker 3>the ups and downs of a turbulent career. It's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of hard to have to summarize in less than fifty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I found interesting how he said that he had considered,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have retired at any point in the last

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<v Speaker 1>two years, but then had sort of found this point

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<v Speaker 1>of the cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose to call it.

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<v Speaker 1>Given that the next big series India and England until

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty seven, and there are some less scrutinized series

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<v Speaker 1>for Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming out term that he used.

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<v Speaker 1>This Bangladesh, South Africa and the New Zealand and the

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<v Speaker 1>next ones is going to be hard to replace because openers,

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<v Speaker 1>as he also mentioned, they have lower averages the middle

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<v Speaker 1>order batters. Even though he played his whole first half

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<v Speaker 1>of his careers the number three specialist, number three really

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<v Speaker 1>came in and did an amazing job as opener. And

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<v Speaker 1>now with Warner and him gone in the space of

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, Yeah, it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>very new looking side.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, your point about the timing is a good one,

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<v Speaker 3>because he mentioned how he had a conversation with Andrew

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<v Speaker 3>McDonald during or around the last year's Boxing Day Test

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<v Speaker 3>against India where he eventually offered to retire, as he

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<v Speaker 3>kind of recalled it, and McDonald was really stronger wanting

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<v Speaker 3>him for that sriugh Anchor series. And what a master

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<v Speaker 3>stroke that was because we got to witness one of

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<v Speaker 3>his best test innings, the two hundred and thirty two

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<v Speaker 3>he made in Gaul right up there with well maybe

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<v Speaker 3>just a notch below say edge percent twenty three and

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<v Speaker 3>Dubai twenty eighteen. I think I'd have edge percent twenty

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<v Speaker 3>three is his absolute top performance in a Test match.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's one hundred and forty and sixty five.

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<v Speaker 3>But he batted for more than thirteen hours in that

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<v Speaker 3>game in yeah, sorry, he batted for more than thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>hours in twenty twenty three the innings in Dubai. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the second innings was more than eight hours. We

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<v Speaker 3>need to double check the stats. So that was the

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<v Speaker 3>one he played for the draw. The one in Edgerson

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<v Speaker 3>was for a win, so I'd probably have that a

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<v Speaker 3>bit higher. But yeah, that were the ones was he

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<v Speaker 3>kind of spoke about. I'm interested you wrote. You wrote

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<v Speaker 3>a nice piece, Joshure summing up the amount of times

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<v Speaker 3>and he's been dropped, and you put the number at seven.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if that in Sorry, I don't wonder, but

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<v Speaker 3>and that doesn't include this is just a summarize what

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<v Speaker 3>a crazy up and down career he had and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>mistreated along the way in some respects. But the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen trip to India, the homework Gate series where he

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<v Speaker 3>was one of the four players who were a naughty

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<v Speaker 3>boy and wasn't allowed to play in the Mahali Test,

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<v Speaker 3>he would have played in that game, I think, So

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<v Speaker 3>that's virtually a dropping and then he was virtually dropped

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<v Speaker 3>during this series, right when Steve Smith at the last

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<v Speaker 3>minute had to pull out with vertigo symptoms. So just

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<v Speaker 3>so many what ifs along the way. I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like that to panned out that the.

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<v Speaker 4>Way it has.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well we had these number of droppings at seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I was hoping I could get up to nine for

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a nine lives a cat analogy, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>a cool cat. But I did quite managed to get

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<v Speaker 1>him to that cat status.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if we talked about it, I mean, if it

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<v Speaker 3>added those two in, it could have been nine.

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<v Speaker 2>We could have got to know, we could have got

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<v Speaker 2>to known.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it was the fact that he was left

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<v Speaker 1>out of that Adelaide test before Steve Smith obviously had

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<v Speaker 1>to pull out. That sort of all so gave him

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<v Speaker 1>the nudge to say, well, maybe it is my time

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<v Speaker 1>to call it.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Was in QUADJA one final walkdown or maybe two final

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<v Speaker 1>walks down those famous stairs from the members Paillion here

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<v Speaker 1>and what an amazing record. He's got three centuries against

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<v Speaker 1>England at this ground, including one back in twenty seventeen eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>So who's to say you can't do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the way he was able to conquer some

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<v Speaker 3>spin issues in the subcontinent. You know, he's very such

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<v Speaker 3>a contrarian and he's so confidence is what makes him

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<v Speaker 3>such a good player. But he's so confident in his

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<v Speaker 3>own ability. The way he speaks about it is if

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<v Speaker 3>you know, everyone was riding me off against spin, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know there was a legitimate issues there, Like he

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<v Speaker 3>went to sril Anka in twenty eleven, first first st

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<v Speaker 3>up and you know, you know it was early in

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<v Speaker 3>his career. Probably struggled there understandably, But I think it

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<v Speaker 3>really came to the four in twenty sixteen when that

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<v Speaker 3>Rang and a Harath series and he got everyone else everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he made even I think even Steve Smith

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<v Speaker 3>struggled in that series or didn't quite have the same

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<v Speaker 3>output as what he'd normally have. And that's when you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of sa already got dropped again in Bangladesh in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seventeen, And yeah, I think there were issues against spin.

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<v Speaker 3>But to his credit and to Justin Langer's credit, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was one of the people he kind of

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<v Speaker 3>thanked for kind of giving him the belief that he

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<v Speaker 3>could succeed like he developed the reverse suite. He just

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<v Speaker 3>become a much better He played a lot more off

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<v Speaker 3>the back foot. That was really noticeable when he went

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<v Speaker 3>to Pakistan in twenty twenty two and just had had

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<v Speaker 3>a game that succeeded.

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<v Speaker 4>So a guy who had failed several.

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<v Speaker 3>Times then was given the opportunity and succeeded in the

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<v Speaker 3>toughest conditions, probably in Test cricket. So that's a great

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<v Speaker 3>lesson for any Test bat.

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<v Speaker 1>Up definitely finishes with sixteen Test centuries, maybe more if

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<v Speaker 1>he gets another one in his final including overseas in

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<v Speaker 1>England and in India and in Pakistan and in Sri

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<v Speaker 1>Lanka and in the UAA and in New Zealand. So

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much all conditions around the world is conquered.

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<v Speaker 3>So what are we missing? Bangladesh, Zimbabwe? He only played

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<v Speaker 3>one Test in Bangladesh. I know that from having a

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<v Speaker 3>last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the West Indies he didn't quite get there, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were pretty tough.

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<v Speaker 4>I think if anyone managed to.

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<v Speaker 3>If anyone opening the batting, and that's huge, cumulatively made

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred runs over at sixty innings, that was a

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<v Speaker 3>win that should be counted a Test century. Given some

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<v Speaker 3>of the wickets I were playing on.

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<v Speaker 1>He opened today's press conference with a bit of a speech.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just play that now in case you missed it earlier.

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<v Speaker 5>Just bear with me. I've just ridden something. Funnily enough,

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<v Speaker 5>I did. I lived just up the road from the

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<v Speaker 5>SCG on Cook Road, to be exact, and I'll never forget.

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<v Speaker 5>When I was younger, I saw Michael Slader drive and

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<v Speaker 5>his red Ferrari. I couldn't believe in my luck. I

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<v Speaker 5>just saw a Test cricketer, and as a boy whose

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<v Speaker 5>parents were barely scraping through and trying to provide for

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<v Speaker 5>their kids in a little two bedroom apartment, I thought,

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<v Speaker 5>one day I'm going to be a Test cricketer. One

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<v Speaker 5>day I can drive whatever I want. Never do I

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<v Speaker 5>think that God would grant me such a wish. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>here now today that I'll retiring from all international cricket

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<v Speaker 5>after the seg Test match. God do, Cricket has given

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<v Speaker 5>me far more than I ever imagined.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, this this whatever's writing, this is really frustrating.

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<v Speaker 5>He's given me memories I'll carry forever, friendships that go

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<v Speaker 5>well beyond the game, and lessons that shape me who

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<v Speaker 5>I am off the field. But no career belongs to

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<v Speaker 5>one person. Obviously had a lot of help. To my

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<v Speaker 5>parents who are over there, thank you for your sacrifices

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<v Speaker 5>that never made the highlight drill. That's you, Mum and Dad,

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<v Speaker 5>Tarik and Fuzzier. The early mornings, the long drives, the

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<v Speaker 5>beliefs and when the results weren't there. Mom, you knew

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<v Speaker 5>plenty of those, and I used to come disappointed sad.

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<v Speaker 5>You always consulted me, and I'll never forget that. Dad,

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<v Speaker 5>you all said that I would play for Australia one day,

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<v Speaker 5>even though sometimes I didn't believe in myself. You taught

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<v Speaker 5>me values before ambition. You taught me to be humble,

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<v Speaker 5>always respectful, and treat everyone as equals no matter what,

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<v Speaker 5>and that grounded me through everything that followed. I hope

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<v Speaker 5>I repaid your sacrifice and leaving everything behind in Pakistan

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<v Speaker 5>to come to Australia to give us kids a better life.

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<v Speaker 5>Eighty eight test matches, Dad, that isn't that enough? Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>To my brothers Aslan and Norman, I want to thank

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<v Speaker 5>you for the countless hours you spend, the nets at backyards,

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<v Speaker 5>everything you did, even down the road here in Centennial

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<v Speaker 5>Park where you give me that token five minutes bat

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<v Speaker 5>at the end of the day. Without your time and effort,

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't be here, nor would I have my pulll shot,

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<v Speaker 5>because all you did was bump me. But you always

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<v Speaker 5>instilled in me that my journey would be tougher than

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<v Speaker 5>the other kids, and if I wanted to make it

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<v Speaker 5>that I had to work harder than everyone else, score

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<v Speaker 5>more runs than the rest, and make sure that I

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<v Speaker 5>don't give them any not to pick me. I'll never

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<v Speaker 5>forget those words, and you were one hundred percent right. Rachie,

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<v Speaker 5>my beloved wife. This journey has asked more of you

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<v Speaker 5>than has ever asked of me, particularly since you read

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<v Speaker 5>everything that goes on in the press, the miss moments,

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<v Speaker 5>the long stretches apart the pressures that come with this

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<v Speaker 5>life and taking care of the kids on your own.

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<v Speaker 5>You carried our family so I could chase my dream,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'll always be grateful for that. And don't worry,

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<v Speaker 5>I know how you always remind me that all my

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<v Speaker 5>international centuries came after I met you. You truly are

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<v Speaker 5>one of my greatest blessings in life. You change the

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<v Speaker 5>path of my life, and you definitely change the path

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<v Speaker 5>of my career, and I think I every day that

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<v Speaker 5>I got to share this journey with you. I love

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<v Speaker 5>you so much. To my kids, Aisha and Eiler, you

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<v Speaker 5>gave me perspective and remind me of what really matters,

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<v Speaker 5>win or lose everything I did out there. I hope

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<v Speaker 5>one day that you'd be powered of what I achieved,

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<v Speaker 5>but also what I was like as a human. I'll

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<v Speaker 5>continue to buy you chippies and give you lots of

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<v Speaker 5>lollies when Mum isn't looking. Don't worry, because you know

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a sucker for hugs and kisses. To Rachel's family,

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<v Speaker 5>including John and Michelle, Rachel's parents, thank you for all

0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.920
<v Speaker 5>your support and time spent over the last ten years.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm truly blessed out such a great extended family. The

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<v Speaker 5>fact that Rachel's brother and dad both love playing golf

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<v Speaker 5>is just a bonus and probably half the reason why

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<v Speaker 5>I married you, Rachie. But I tell you what, next

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<v Speaker 5>year is going to be a bad year to be

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<v Speaker 5>a prideless privy one because I'm want to be playing

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<v Speaker 5>lots of golf and there's nothing you guys can say

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<v Speaker 5>about it. To Bill Anderson, my friend and mentor, thank

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<v Speaker 5>you for being Thank you for believing in me before

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<v Speaker 5>the numbers did, for your honesty, for your patience and

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<v Speaker 5>your guidance, and your path when things weren't clear. You

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<v Speaker 5>help shape my career but also my character. To my teammates, coaches,

0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:00.000
<v Speaker 5>support staff, has been a privilege.

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<v Speaker 4>Sharing reressing room with you.

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<v Speaker 5>You make the hard days manageable and the good days unforgettable.

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<v Speaker 5>Cricket is a team game, but more than that, it's

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<v Speaker 5>a people game, and I've been incredibly lucky with the

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<v Speaker 5>people I've gotten to be around along the way. I've

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<v Speaker 5>learned that not everything in life is in our control.

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<v Speaker 5>I train my best, but then it's all up to

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<v Speaker 5>Allah and all as the best of planners. If he wasn't,

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't be here right now. This game humbles you.

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<v Speaker 5>It tests your patience, your resilience, and your character, and

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<v Speaker 5>if you're lucky, it teaches you gratitude even on days

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<v Speaker 5>that doesn't go your way. A'l humbrella always. I hope

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<v Speaker 5>I've inspired many children along the way, particularly those who

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<v Speaker 5>feel that they are different, those who feel that they

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<v Speaker 5>don't belong, or those others tell that they will never

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<v Speaker 5>make it. I felt all these things growing up and

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<v Speaker 5>trying to be an Australian cricketer. But seeing is believing

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm here to tell you that you can do

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<v Speaker 5>whatever you want. You've just got to keep trying. Never

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<v Speaker 5>let anyone convince you that you can't, because if they

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<v Speaker 5>do convince you, then you never will. I'm a proud

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<v Speaker 5>Muslim colored board for Pakistan who was told that he

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<v Speaker 5>would never play for the Australian cricket team. Look at

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<v Speaker 5>me now and you can do the same. As I

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<v Speaker 5>walk off for the last time, I do so with

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<v Speaker 5>gratitude and peace. Where as we say it's Salaam, grateful

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<v Speaker 5>for the journey, the people, the lessons. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 5>letting me live my dream and for sharing it with me.

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<v Speaker 3>And so those words from Uzi Quadra. You can watch

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<v Speaker 3>the full press conference on on cricket dot com dot

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<v Speaker 3>if you're so inclined, because it is a really engaging

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<v Speaker 3>It was an engaging fifty to fifty minutes or so.

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<v Speaker 3>But before he kind of made that speech, his family

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<v Speaker 3>or you know, we're all kind of waiting for him

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<v Speaker 3>to come in and I think not everyone one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>percent sure if he was going to retire or not,

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<v Speaker 3>or if he's going to declare that he's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think when we saw mum dad, he's two orders,

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<v Speaker 3>his pregnant wife, his brother. I think there was a

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<v Speaker 3>close friend in there as well. When they all came

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<v Speaker 3>in with it, he's probably not going to play on

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just invited them for the ride. But that

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<v Speaker 3>was really sweet. And then those two girls, they must

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<v Speaker 3>be three or four and maybe five and six. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to say they were the most well behaved young children.

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<v Speaker 3>They sat there the whole fifty minutes without making a peep.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, you know, absolute for a grade behavior from

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<v Speaker 3>two youngsters. And then we got to see them kind

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<v Speaker 3>of all embrace after it, and the two little girls

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<v Speaker 3>got to sit up on the stage with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he in.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a really nice moment to kind of see that.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>And then afterwards the whole family went out onto the

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<v Speaker 1>surface here of their CG. Got some nice photos in

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<v Speaker 1>front of those famous stands sitting down on turf, and

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<v Speaker 1>it had Adam Lewis, the curator looking over. He was

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<v Speaker 1>busy at work in the middle of the SCG and

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<v Speaker 1>he also can get off my lawn and he was

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<v Speaker 1>also asked some questions today, Lou. Obviously there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of interest in what's going to happen out in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a look today at the surface. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>very green, but of course we are two days out.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, he said six mills is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the ideal amount that he's going to leave on. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be influenced by the results around the country.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been the plan for a couple of months,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's going to stick to it. And yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>we're all waiting with baited breath if that's the right move.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and as you'll hear from Todd Murphy, I think

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<v Speaker 3>we all kind of want him to, you know, can

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<v Speaker 3>we get that six down to five or four, or

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<v Speaker 3>you know, can we can we give it a completely

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<v Speaker 3>new nut shade. But no, it's and it's admirable that

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<v Speaker 3>he's taking that approach, like he you know, what happened

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<v Speaker 3>in Melbourne, you know, shouldn't really have a bearing on

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<v Speaker 3>what happens here. And yeah, it's a really tough one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a tough one to kind of follow up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>they've had challenges a little bit here, like it hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't say it's been a great Test week. At

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<v Speaker 3>the last couple of years. It was the lowest rated

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<v Speaker 3>of the pictures for of the five for last year's

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<v Speaker 3>brought to Gavasco it got a satisfactory rating. All the

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<v Speaker 3>other ones got very good. It was a three day

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<v Speaker 3>test here. You'll remember that was the one where Steve Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we all thought he was gonna get to

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<v Speaker 3>ten thousand runs. He was only about nine away. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think Rashi Kristen had got him out for in

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<v Speaker 3>the nervous nine and ninety nineties the right amount of there. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it has been seen friendly here and yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>ideally everyone you know, cricket Australia would like it to

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<v Speaker 3>go the journey. But yeah, there's not much that Lewis

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<v Speaker 3>can kind of do at short notice, so you can't

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<v Speaker 3>just all of a sudden prepare a new wicket. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want it to be a reaction. I think,

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<v Speaker 3>like I kind of think, tell me if you agree

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<v Speaker 3>with this, Josh, but I reckon, like, you know, Curros

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<v Speaker 3>might already be doing this. But I feel like the

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<v Speaker 3>magic number is like can you get it to fourth,

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<v Speaker 3>like late to day four, like if that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>what you aim for, and then you're building in some

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<v Speaker 3>some leeway the way like if it's a really if

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<v Speaker 3>it ends up being more seen friendly and the teams

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<v Speaker 3>play more aggressively, maybe it only goes three days. If

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<v Speaker 3>you get some rain or whatever, you push it maybe

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<v Speaker 3>into a too a fifth day. I think that's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of the magic number.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you're right, because if you're aiming always

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<v Speaker 1>and of course everyone wants it to end in the

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<v Speaker 1>final session of day five. But if you're aiming for

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<v Speaker 1>that and you get it slightly wrong and it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a drawer and then if there's rain again,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, probably best to pull it back a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course I've got no idea what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to roll the wicket, let alone

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<v Speaker 1>prepare or whole block of pitches. So yeah, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing work.

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<v Speaker 2>What they really do they do?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's I think a lot of the English

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<v Speaker 3>journos come over here and they think it's very funny

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<v Speaker 3>that we speak to the curators before every test and

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<v Speaker 3>ask them how many meals of grass? And I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's a respect for the profession that you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>we value so highly what they're able to do, and

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<v Speaker 3>we value Test cricket so highly, and it's it's such

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<v Speaker 3>a big deal for each of these venues, each of

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<v Speaker 3>the each of the grounds to kind of have a

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<v Speaker 3>Test match and they want to be you know, put

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<v Speaker 3>the put them cells on show. So yeah, fingers cross

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<v Speaker 3>Adam Lewis can do that this week.

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<v Speaker 1>With everything else going on this week, Louis feels like

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't given any thoughts to the selection of both sides,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've had a good look at training over the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of days. The entire asy side was out

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<v Speaker 1>there today going through their paces. All the quicks had

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<v Speaker 1>a bowl, all the batters for in the nets. Where

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<v Speaker 1>are we thinking they might go with selection for the

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<v Speaker 1>final Test.

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<v Speaker 4>Always an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 3>We're keeping a bit of an eye on Kevin Green

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<v Speaker 3>earlier on he has been hasn't had a great series

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<v Speaker 3>by any measure with the bat you know, would would

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<v Speaker 3>you know? And McDonald Andrew McDonald in the aftermath of

0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:38.720
<v Speaker 3>the Melbourne Test suggests that maybe that he didn't suggest,

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<v Speaker 3>but he didn't absolutely guarantee spot. They weren't the words

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<v Speaker 3>of someone who's nailed nailed in I would have thought

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<v Speaker 3>his position would have been discussed, especially when you got

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<v Speaker 3>a guy like bow Webs who's been riding the drinks

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<v Speaker 3>all summer, sorry, riding the bench all summer and taking

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<v Speaker 3>out the drinks that maybe you look at him for

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<v Speaker 3>the SCG Test. He did hit the winning runs at

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<v Speaker 3>this ground last year, and a fresh bowler in the

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<v Speaker 3>I know we haven't had heaps and heaps of cricket.

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<v Speaker 3>We've had two two day tests, and you know the

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<v Speaker 3>bowlers are all kind of tracking well from what we

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<v Speaker 3>hear is. But you know, maybe just having a fresh

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<v Speaker 3>bowler and a fresh player down the order could help.

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<v Speaker 3>You Know, it's a funny one, like is a bow

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<v Speaker 3>websterit at seven actually more suited to seven than Cameron Green?

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<v Speaker 3>And is Cameron Green's actual long term spot? Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 3>that number five spot that that we know Quadras has

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<v Speaker 3>got at the moment and has only got for one

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<v Speaker 3>more tests. So maybe you could frame a twim in

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<v Speaker 3>that that way. I hope Todd Murphy gets a run,

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<v Speaker 3>Like if they and it will be pitched dependent, right,

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<v Speaker 3>like if they play four quick, it's like all right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, strap your seat belts in, We're going for

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<v Speaker 3>three days maximum, and then it's it's probably a Nissa

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<v Speaker 3>verse Jy Richardson consideration for that third quick spot. Anything

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<v Speaker 3>on the Aussie side, I haven't mentioned there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was a little concern maybe about how

0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:05.919
<v Speaker 1>Richardson would pull up, but he only bold nine overs

0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:09.680
<v Speaker 1>in the Melmon Test, which is hard to believe. But yeah,

0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:13.480
<v Speaker 1>he bowled off his full round today, sent down a

0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.600
<v Speaker 1>few off spinners. Yes, I saw that. Yeah, so that

0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:17.720
<v Speaker 1>was a bit different. But he looks good to go,

0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure he can back up after a two

0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:24.040
<v Speaker 1>day test. Brendan Doggat Again, he's around the group, so

0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:27.119
<v Speaker 1>he'll be there and thereabouts. But yeah, I wonder if

0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:29.800
<v Speaker 1>there's also the opportunity for let's say it is it

0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:33.280
<v Speaker 1>looking like a Sam friendly pitch. Could they play Webster

0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:35.639
<v Speaker 1>as the fourth quick and about him an eight or

0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:36.480
<v Speaker 1>something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and these are all the things they'll be talking about,

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:41.359
<v Speaker 3>because I think if it is a Webster at seven

0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:45.120
<v Speaker 3>over green, then you know, you look at Michael NIE's spot.

0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:47.960
<v Speaker 3>It would feel harsh on him, but maybe you can go, well,

0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Webster can kind of give us seventy percent of what

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 3>Nissa does with the ball, he's obviously the better batter,

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.119
<v Speaker 3>and then you go, well we can get a quicker

0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 3>bowler in there. Maybe that opens the door for dogg

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 3>it because I think, you know, McDonald said after that

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:06.239
<v Speaker 3>Melbourne Test that Richardson he was really picked because it

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 3>was a four man paid attack like in the three

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 3>men attack with his his injury issues with his inability

0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:15.560
<v Speaker 3>to throw as well over a longer Test match, could

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:18.360
<v Speaker 3>you know it could kind of be exploited a bit

0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:21.639
<v Speaker 3>by England. Yeah, that's a that's a different conversation. So

0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 3>dog it's a hybrid of the two where he's yeah,

0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:26.960
<v Speaker 3>he's got that pitched up, can swing it kind of

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:30.240
<v Speaker 3>option and then but then can also bowl, you know,

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:33.479
<v Speaker 3>one forty clicks and bowl the bumper stuff. So the

0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:35.440
<v Speaker 3>more I'm talking about it, the more it makes sense

0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:40.000
<v Speaker 3>that it's what dogged in for Venissa Murphy and for Richardson,

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:43.639
<v Speaker 3>Webster in for Green. I don't know that kind of

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 3>all has a nice ring to it. It seems weird that

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 3>they would I mean, they did lose this last Test,

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:51.720
<v Speaker 3>but it seemed weird that they make three changes to

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 3>numbers between number seven and eleven and none to the

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 3>top six right, because you know if you yeah, they

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 3>got bowled out twice under two hundred, that's probably where

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:05.240
<v Speaker 3>the problems lie in that particular test. But it'd be

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.199
<v Speaker 3>hard to come down too hard given it's been a

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 3>pretty successful series, albeit with some batting limitations.

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we know that they've made lots of changes between

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:15.679
<v Speaker 1>every Test match this series, which has been a bit

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 1>unusual considering they've been winning. And George Bailey is a

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 1>big fan of this show, so he will take your advice.

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure England have lost another fast ball, of course,

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Gus Adkinson. He's out of the series. Archer so's Mark

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Wood probably opens the door for Matthew Potts and that

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>might be the only change for England. Jacob Bethel what

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:38.239
<v Speaker 1>a revelation at number three. Maybe they'll be wishing they

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>picked him in a little bit earlier in place of Olipope.

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 1>But otherwise they don't have a lot of other options

0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:45.360
<v Speaker 1>as we've touched on to go to so it might

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:47.120
<v Speaker 1>be pretty stable side for the tourists.

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:48.120
<v Speaker 4>Was that another choice?

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean Olipope is the backup batter now, so

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 3>can't really make any changes there. Matthew Fisher is the

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:58.119
<v Speaker 3>only other one not in the original squad, but he

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 3>was brought in after I.

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:01.120
<v Speaker 2>Think after the word.

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's interesting that that three fast bowlers have gone down.

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Three they're they're probably they're three leading bowlers coming into

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 3>the series. You'd argue Josh tungu Wan leap frog all

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.719
<v Speaker 3>of them subsequently. But yeah, the three guys that they

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 3>were probably highest on, you know, Cast might have been

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:20.919
<v Speaker 3>that fourth, that fourth kind of guy. He's ended up

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 3>as their most certainly their leading We could take a yes,

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 3>questions about his economy and everything, but he was brilliant

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 3>and that second innings in Melbourne, and if you kind

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 3>of look at all I think, if you look at

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 3>all the numbers with Cass except for the runs conceded

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 3>and the runs per over column, he's had an excellent

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 3>series as far as visiting quicks goes. So yeah, so

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.400
<v Speaker 3>he's done pretty well. But yeah, the three others gone down,

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:48.160
<v Speaker 3>but they've only replaced Yeah, only brought in one quick

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:51.160
<v Speaker 3>to replace three injured fast bowlers. So you know, it's

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 3>got to be Cast again. It's got to be Tongue

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 3>who had an next Player of the match in Melbourne,

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 3>And then it's got to be one of Potts and

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 3>Fihote and Pots Yeah, like I'll be interested to see

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 3>how he goes out here. Rob Key, their director of cricket,

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.880
<v Speaker 3>has been on the record about not wanting to pick

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of dibbley doubler bowlers who succeed in county cricket.

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 3>There's lots you know who average in the low twenties

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.120
<v Speaker 3>high teens in county cricket every year that they could

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 3>pick and you know, no a good first class bowlers

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 3>and they haven't for the purposely going we need one

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:27.439
<v Speaker 3>hundred and forty kilometer an hour guys, and pots is

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, Pots I think is more in the Nie

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 3>of Bowland kind of speed range, and I think that's

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 3>where it's important to have this distinction around the conversations

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 3>and kind of point out and maybe a floor in

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:42.199
<v Speaker 3>England thinking like the conversation isn't one forty k or nothing, like,

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 3>you can still do a lot of damage in the

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 3>high one twenties, early one thirties, you just have to

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 3>be really accurate. And Australia have you know two of

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.880
<v Speaker 3>their most success Yes, Stark is Starks a freak show,

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 3>so like you're just not going to find out exactly

0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 3>so England can't find they don't have a Stark. They

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 3>haven't had left arm fast bowler in years, let alone

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.400
<v Speaker 3>one who is as durable and as quick as as

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Mitchell Stark. So so you take him out and then

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 3>the other successful bowlers have been your nieces and your bowlers.

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 3>Matthew Potts seems like their best equivalent to those guys.

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, a bit of a mystery potentially by not

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 3>playing him if they think he's their best that style

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:27.439
<v Speaker 3>of bowler long way round of saying, look, I think

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 3>Matthew pots will probably play in Sydney.

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>We know England have got their style and they've been

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 1>keen to stick to it, so that's maybe why we

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen any deviation from that as.

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 2>The series has evolved.

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>But on just on the Brighton Cars stuff, across the

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>whole series, the strike rate is at an all time

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>low for an Ashes. Wicket's been taking every forty balls

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>for the series, lou and the series with the next

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>best in terms of bowlers is forty seven back in

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:58.439
<v Speaker 1>nineteen oh two. So this is mixed bess Ashes series

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>and experts Ashes series. So this is an unprecedented series

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>for the bowlers. Let's see if they can continue things

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>here at the SAG. Day three will be of course

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>the Pink Test Day or the Jane McGrady. You can

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 1>buy your virtual seats at pinktest dot com. You definitely

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:17.920
<v Speaker 1>recommend you get on there and support a great cause.

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>No longer just putting breast cancer nurses either, all cancer

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>now so covering that off for getting to rural and

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>remote areas another great cause.

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 2>And this is the eighteenth year. Can you believe that?

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Eighteen years it's been running now and it's getting stronger

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:31.640
<v Speaker 1>every year.

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 3>And you know, I can only repeat the words from

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 3>the highest office in this country. Anthony Albanezi begged the

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 3>two teams at Kurribilly House to get this get this

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 3>game into day.

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<v Speaker 4>Three, so brilliant.

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 3>Cause love seeing this place lit up in pink on

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 3>day three. So yep, we're getting there. Josh, have you

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 3>got your pink shirt ready?

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Not yet, but I've got something in the works hopefully,

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, okay, what do.

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 3>You mean in the works showing it?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, no, nothing pink yet, but hopefully we get

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to day three and we get to both wear something pink.

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:08.239
<v Speaker 4>Look forward to it.

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Mine will be getting onned maybe pretest.

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:11.479
<v Speaker 2>I like it.

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 4>I like it.

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Another man who will be hoping this test goes into

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>day three and beyond is Todd Murphy. We caught up

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>with him a little earlier today and this is our

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>chat with the Victorian spinner. All right, we are sitting

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>in the members pavilion at the SCG, two days out

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>from the fifth and final Ashes test of the summer,

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>joined by Todd Murphy. Happy New Year mate, What did

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you do for New Year's Eve?

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 7>Thank you, happen to you to you guys. Well, we

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 7>travel up from Melbourne News Eve and then they put

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 7>on a nice little function up on the rooftop of

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 7>the Intercontinental where we're staying. Made it to the nine

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 7>o'clock fireworks, didn't quite get through to midnight, but that

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 7>was a nice view across the harbor and lots of

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 7>kids running around and how all the family are there.

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 6>That was a nice night.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we get to this special arena, the SCG.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you played a lot here?

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<v Speaker 1>What are your memories of this place and what do

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>you think about when you think about Ashes cricket here

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>at the SCG.

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've played a few shoel games here, not heaps.

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 7>I think I played two or three and then obviously

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 7>been a part of the Sydney Sixers for the last

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 7>four or five years, so he played a lot of

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 7>TEA twenty cricket out here. It's always been yeah, great

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 7>fun and because theres always a nice atmosphere around the

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 7>around the ground. Yeah, ashes cricket at the SCG. It's

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 7>a good question. What do I think of there when the.

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 6>Old boys all retired here?

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, there was a couple of them in the one

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 7>game one there that was good memories. And then yeah

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 7>there's been I suppose some yeah, some big scores made here,

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 7>not ashes cricket, but pups three hundred.

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, some good memories there.

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 1>And then another retirement as well this week. We've just

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>heard this morning usmun Kuai is going to call it

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>quits after this Test match. What's he been like as

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a teammate to play with.

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, he's obviously been a phenomenal career. He's sort of

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 7>been in another side for the first part of his

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 7>career and then come back in and had a great

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 7>finish to his career. So yeah, since I've come in,

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 7>he's been great. It's obviously a really calming influence and

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 7>happy to yeah, give some feedback, but in a really

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 7>constructive way. So yeah, he's been really good to bowl

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 7>to learn off. And yeah, it's nicest to be around

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 7>a guy who's quite calm and doesn't let the occasion

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 7>get to him. So yeah, it been a great career

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 7>and obviously an awesome way for him to go out

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 7>of here.

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 3>We know you grew up on the New Chaffals Victorian

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 3>border and I'm going to ask you in a second

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 3>whether you know whether you're a Victorian or in New

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 3>South Welsh And I noticed you got asked that yesterday

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 3>in the press conference, but can you before that, could

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 3>you just kind of tell us about test cricket memories

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 3>growing up, Like we you we go to the s

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 3>CG for games.

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 4>Did you go to the MCG? What was or did

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 4>you just watch it on TV?

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 7>A lot more on TV, but if we ever went

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 7>down the MCG, obviously a lot closer. It was only

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.719
<v Speaker 7>about three hours to Melbourne and about eight hours to Sydney,

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 7>so I never come to a creer game at the

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 7>SCG as a kid. But yeah, memories of cricket growing

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 7>up back home was just summer of cricket, Like grew

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 7>up in a house full of cricket. Dad was heavily

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 7>involved in the local career club. Have an older brother

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 7>who I sort of just followed his footsteps the whole

0:31:57.680 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 7>way and was everywhere he was around cricket during the

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, mad cricket house and always loved it.

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, New South Wales or Victoria, what's the push and

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Paul being like over the journey.

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 7>No, I'm definitely a Victorian, but yeah, I do have

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 7>a little tied to New South Wales and my family

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 7>is still all back there now.

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, definitely a Victorian right And.

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 3>For the like the pathway stuff when you're out in

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 3>the bush, I've always been interested, like would you be

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 3>able to go to you know, if you missed out

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 3>on the Vicks because you go to the border and.

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 7>Try it with the blue Yeah. I did all the

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 7>way up until under fifteens. I did the New South

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 7>Wales and Victorian Pathway. So played Riverina for the News

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 7>of Whales stuff and we'd come to Newcastle for the

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 7>Bradman Cup and all that sort of stuff. So played

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 7>I reckon three of them and then played all my

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 7>junior rep stuff for Northern Rivers and same thing it

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 7>sort of got to the point where it was just

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 7>it's going to be too hard from school level to

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 7>try and get down to Sydney for state trials.

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 6>So it was always a lot easier.

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 7>To get to Melbourne and was a part of the

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 7>the Victorian country under under seventeens under nineteen.

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, from I think.

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.480
<v Speaker 7>Fifteen, sort of Parke New So Wales be school is

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 7>gonna be too hard and yeah, went down the Victorian

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 7>path and.

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 3>Surely the fact year old man played for St Kilda

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 3>like that was you know, you couldn't go anywhere else.

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 6>Right, and that was yeah.

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 7>Like I think growing up I sort of always had

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 7>aspirations of well, that's what I want to do is

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 7>go place in Kilden. I thought that was sort of yeah,

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 7>that was going to be the best thing I could

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 7>possibly do. So I was, yeah, chips in on trying

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 7>to get down to Melbourne. And yet you mentioned Dad

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 7>was there, so it was nice sort of following his

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 7>footsteps and go down there and yeah, try and play

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 7>some first leven cricket and then push on from there.

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>In terms of straddling that side of the Victoria New

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>South Wales board, I know Aubreyl Dongo has a bit

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>of a rivalry.

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 4>Is there the same thing as Chuko Miami heavy rivalry?

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 6>There?

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 7>Definitely the forty teams don't play against the other, but

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 7>the cricket definitely do. When Yeah, that's always the highlight

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 7>of the year you can beat a Chuka. So yeah,

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 7>always good memories there.

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Let's fast forward to this series Todd, where I mean

0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 3>you spoke about in twenty twenty three, you're part of

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 3>the Ashes squad and you saw Nathan Lyon go down

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 3>at Lords and you knew that you were probably the

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 3>man in right, How did it transpire this time when

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:09.399
<v Speaker 3>nath went down?

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I suppose sort of the same thing, like when

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 7>he goes down here, you obviously gutted for him, but

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 7>then your head goes to, well, what can that potentially

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 7>look like for me? And yeah, I didn't really know

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 7>exactly where I sat in terms of the pecking order

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 7>for spin bowling and.

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.240
<v Speaker 6>What they were thinking for the last couple of games.

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I.

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 7>Suppose you're aware of I played the last Aussie A game,

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 7>so I thought i'd be around the mark And yeah,

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 7>it's nice when you get a call and I sort

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 7>of say we want you to come and come down

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 7>to Melbourne and be a part of the group again

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 7>and get back around it.

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, pleasing you were straight back into that squad

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 1>for the Boxing Day Test, which, as a Victorian and representative,

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.280
<v Speaker 1>is your home test match. Was that a bit gutting

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>to miss out on selection there?

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 7>I think when you got when I got the call

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:54.879
<v Speaker 7>and my head sort of went to MCG Boxing Day Test,

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 7>like how amazing that would be. But I think when

0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 7>I got to the MCG, walked out and had a look,

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 7>I was pretty quick to realize that maybe not. So

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 7>it wasn't like it come as a slap in the

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 7>face or anything. When Dodd has told me that I

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:07.879
<v Speaker 7>wasn't playing, I was sort of yeah, I was able

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 7>to read the room a little bit and yeah, awhere

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 7>if what was going on out in the middle and

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 7>what it might have looked like. So I would have

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 7>obviously been an amazing game to be a part of.

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.240
<v Speaker 7>Growing up A Boxing Day Tests, I think the pinnacle

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 7>for all Australian cricketers and especially being an ASHES, so

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:23.839
<v Speaker 7>that would have been incredible to be a part of.

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:26.919
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, no qualms and then what's your gut feel

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 2>ahead of this one.

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:30.399
<v Speaker 1>We're two days out here, there's already a very much

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 1>a grand tinge to it.

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's a good question.

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 7>I actually like sitting here now, I don't really know,

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:39.280
<v Speaker 7>to be honest, the conversations have been sort of around

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 7>that and they're not really exactly sure what we're going

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 7>to get and how it's going to play. But yeah,

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 7>my job is just prepare to play and make sure

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 7>I give myself the best chance if I do get selected,

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 7>to go out there and do well. So yeah, my

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 7>head's in that frame at the moment, and then wait

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 7>to see what decision they come to and yeah, if not,

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 7>then support the boys the best I can. And if

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 7>I do, then yeah, awesome.

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:00.320
<v Speaker 3>Can you talk to us a little bit about the

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.240
<v Speaker 3>journey from twenty twenty three where you know you've played

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 3>in the series against India, had done really well, got

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 3>vir out out a bunch of times, and then really

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 3>held your own in that Ashes series too, the journey

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 3>with your.

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:12.879
<v Speaker 4>Bowling from then to now.

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think I was I said it, Yes, I

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 7>think I was aware that obviously had those opportunities and

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 7>understand the fact that like back in these conditions and

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:24.399
<v Speaker 7>a lot of places around the world that you're only

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 7>going to need one spinner to be a part of it,

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 7>and Nith obviously wasn't going anywhere and all that, so

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 7>I understood that I was back to Shieldgriget and I

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 7>had to try and work away, which was I think

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 7>the best thing for me as well, to go back

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 7>and sort of be able to work away in the

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 7>background a little.

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 6>Bit, and yeah, try and keep evolving.

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 7>I was only twenty three the last Ashes series, so

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 7>I felt like I still had a lot to learn

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 7>and develop. And yes, it's been a couple of years

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:51.760
<v Speaker 7>of just trying to learn my craft and help contribute

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 7>to Victoria and try and win games for them as well.

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, it's sort of been just along that journey,

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 7>and then there's been some nice opportunities along the way

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.399
<v Speaker 7>with some Ousia akrig It a little bit accounting cricket

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 7>as well, Just to try and get experiences in different

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 7>conditions and try and just keep evolving my game in

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:08.320
<v Speaker 7>different parts of the world.

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:11.320
<v Speaker 3>And kind of going, yeah, thinking of those different conditions.

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:15.479
<v Speaker 3>I heard you played in that or you speaking about

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 3>that Ace series in India at the start of this

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 3>summer talking about your sweating so much you couldn't grab

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 3>the ball.

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 7>Can you talk to us about that. I'd never experienced

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 7>that before at all, but obviously that's the time of

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 7>the year. It was in India, super humid, and even

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 7>the Indian boys were struggling, so I knew it wasn't

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 7>just me. But yeah, just with the amount of sweat

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 7>that was coming off you, you couldn't get your hands dry out,

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.439
<v Speaker 7>your pants or wet. Your shirt was wet. The towel

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 7>you have on was wet within a couple of minutes

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 7>as well. So yeah, it was a learning experience, a

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 7>challenge to try and find ways to keep your hands

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 7>as dry as you're good. So yeah, gave yourself the

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 7>best chance of got a good grip on the ball.

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 7>But yeah, it wasn't easy. It's definitely the first time

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 7>I've encountered that. And yeah, just trying to find subtle

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 7>different ways to hold the seam, and yeah, still be

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:00.359
<v Speaker 7>able to try and put as much for it as

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 7>you can on not without that feeling of you've got

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 7>a great control over it.

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 1>How is it bowling with Corey rocket Charlie in those matches,

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>because you know, you sort of both know that you've

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a dress rehearsal, wasn't it for the next to

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Nathan Lyons? So how do you go about maintaining your

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 1>composure and that relationship with your teammates spin bowler.

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 6>I think a cricket's been super for that.

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 7>Like it's sort of you go away with different guys

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 7>and you can bounce things off each other, and I

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 7>think when you look at it, like you separate that

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 7>sort of stuff and you sort of try and work

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 7>together and hope that one day you're back in India

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 7>playing test with it together and try and build that

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 7>relationship early and throw different.

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 6>Ideas at each other.

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 7>We've obviously got different strengths and different weaknesses, so just

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.360
<v Speaker 7>try and bounce that off each other, and yeah, have

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 7>open conversations around what he's trying to do, what I'm

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 7>trying to do, what we see the.

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 6>Batter is trying to do.

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 7>And yeah, I think we compliment other quite well in

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 7>a different sense as well, so you can pose different

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.839
<v Speaker 7>challenges to batter. So yeah, it's definitely like in those

0:38:57.840 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 7>A series you're not over there and worry about the

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 7>doing well and all that sort of stuff. You're trying

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 7>to work together and Yeah, work out what's best works

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 7>for you and how you can help each other.

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 1>And I suppose we spoke about yesterday your flexibility and

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 1>how you want to get more versatile in different conditions

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 1>to somebody who hasn't seen you play a lot, and

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 1>it will be if you do play your first Test

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:18.280
<v Speaker 1>in Australia. What would you say are your strongest attributes

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:18.840
<v Speaker 1>has spinner?

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'd like to think I've got a good game

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 7>sence and understand sort of the tempos of the game.

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 7>And I think that's quite important as a spin bowler,

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 7>trying to read sort of the situation of the game

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 7>and what a batter is trying to do. And yeah,

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:35.720
<v Speaker 7>I think I've just got enough subtle variations there without

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.280
<v Speaker 7>changing too much that I can sort of pose different

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 7>questions to batters. And yeah, it won't always look the

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 7>same as what I suppose Nathan is with just his

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.320
<v Speaker 7>best ball the whole time. I might be slightly different

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 7>and try a few different things, and yeah, just try

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:51.359
<v Speaker 7>and get a read on the game and try and yeah,

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 7>just throw different things at the better.

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Can you tell us about the shoulder problems you've had

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 3>told and what Yeah, when did they kind of first

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 3>come up, How did they affect your bowling and how

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:02.879
<v Speaker 3>have you kind of been able to overcome them if

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 3>you have.

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:04.839
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was sort of just at the back end

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 7>of that Ashes series when I had a massive, sort

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 7>of twelve months, and I think going into that Indian series,

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 7>I've only played four or five first class games, so

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 7>I sort of I probably wasn't physically ready to have

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 7>a big amount of Test cricket. Obviously it was awesome

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 7>to get the opportunity, but it just, yeah, it's sort

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 7>of come to the point where it was just workload

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 7>and I just bowled a lot across that twelve months and.

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 6>It sort of just caught up with me a little bit.

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:32.240
<v Speaker 7>And yeah, I had some tendon damage and some instability

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 7>in my shoulder which was just sort of affecting the

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 7>power I could get out of it. And obviously being

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 7>a spinner, you've relied pretty heavily on your shoulder. So yeah,

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 7>it was a challenge, and especially like twenty two twenty three,

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:46.919
<v Speaker 7>I probably had never been through anything like that before,

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 7>and you want it just to be a quick fix,

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 7>and you want to feel good again, and you don't

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 7>understand why it's happening, and why it feels like that. So, yeah,

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 7>it's just about I suppose, yeah, letting it take its toll,

0:40:57.280 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 7>and I understand it might take a little bit of time,

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 7>but invest now and hopefully I can put it behind

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 7>me moving forward and be able to cope with the

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 7>difficulties of playing a lot of four day cricket in

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 7>five day creat because that's what I've always wanted to do.

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, put in some really good strength work and

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 7>a lot of different rehab stuff to try and get

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 7>it to the position where it can cope with long

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 7>format cricket. And it's still Yeah. Now I'm still working

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 7>through it. Still do a lot of rehab for it

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 7>and get a lot of treatment through it, just to

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 7>try and give it.

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 6>The best chance of getting through games.

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 3>Is it the biggest challenge you've had, Todd, Because we

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 3>looked at it. You mentioned you made your Test dabu

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 3>off not a whole lot of first class cricket and

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 3>have gone from strength to strength otherwise. Yeah, how has

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 3>it been your biggest challenge?

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 7>I think so, And I think it's just when you've

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 7>had a taste of playing Test Creek, you desperately just

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 7>want to get back there as well. And then back

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.800
<v Speaker 7>through shield cricket, trying to navigate through a little shoulder

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 7>issue and wondering why it wasn't feeling good, why the

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 7>ball didn't feel like it was coming out of my

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.319
<v Speaker 7>hand how I wanted to, and probably getting a little

0:41:57.320 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 7>bit frustrated with myself in that sense. So it was, Yeah,

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 7>it was difficult, but I think a really important learning

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 7>as well. And I was lucky that Victorious spored me

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 7>really well. Bucky Rogers, Dave Passi were awesome through that

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 7>period and just said we want to give you a

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:11.920
<v Speaker 7>chance to step away and get it right. Don't try

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 7>and chase through the pain, and go and get it right.

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 7>And we know we can get you back and try

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 7>and get your back bowling the best you can again.

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 7>And it feels like over the last sort of twelve

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 7>months it's been that way.

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.839
<v Speaker 1>So you played six Tests in twenty twenty three. One

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 1>of mine during memories of that actual series was you

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.759
<v Speaker 1>with the bat hitting Mark Wood for a couple or

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 1>three sixers maybe at Leeds. Can you talk us through

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:36.240
<v Speaker 1>that particular moment of play because he was bowling gas

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>in that match.

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:38.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that was the last Test at the Oval.

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 7>Ye I don't think I would have employment Leeds that

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:46.319
<v Speaker 7>was absolutely rapid, but I always enjoy batting, so yeah,

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 7>I think we're a little bit behind the game there

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:49.279
<v Speaker 7>as well. So it was nice to put on a

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.360
<v Speaker 7>good partnership with Paddy. I think it gave us a

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 7>little bit of a first things lead as well. So

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 7>I think it's Yeah, as a bowler, I know how

0:42:56.600 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 7>frustrating is when tail enders can make runs always trying Yeah,

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 7>put price in my wicket and yeah, try and contribute

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:04.239
<v Speaker 7>as much as I can.

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Calling yourself a tailor and there are you.

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 7>Oh definitely, Yeah, no doubt about that. Come foot number

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 7>ten or eleven. So no, that's my role.

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 1>And is it true you were a medium pacer yourself

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 1>before you started a bowling spin.

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well back to that last question, like I was

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 7>sort of a medium pacer that always thought I'd be

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 7>a left handed batter for autralia've ever played, Yeah, never

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 7>thought I'd be playing as a bowler. So it's funny

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 7>how things do evolve. But I think like a lot

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 7>of kids just sort of you grew up you want

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 7>to be a fast bowler, and then you work out

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 7>at a certain point that maybe that's not your best

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 7>best go, So yeah, I reckon that was sort of

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 7>fifteen or fifteen sixteen sort of, yeah, put that to

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:40.200
<v Speaker 7>the side, and he was never going to take me anywhere.

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.840
<v Speaker 3>I've heard Craig out you spin mental tell this story

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 3>that he was watching you bowl at a at a

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Pathway trial. He was there with his son Bendigo, and

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 3>saw your mucking around bowling offspin and goes, there's your

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 3>best off spin to the coach.

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 4>Do you kind of recall that that.

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 6>Happening, Yeah, briefly, I do.

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 7>I remember that that session, and I sort of always

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 7>tinker with bold spin and the nets sort of from

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 7>fourteen I reckon where I was like, I couldn't be

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 7>bothered bolo medium pace all the time on those hot

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 7>summer nights, So yeah, always tinker with it. And then

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 7>I do remember that that was sort of yeah, first

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 7>sort of brief introduction actually working away a little bit

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 7>at it, and I didn't really know who how he

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 7>was at that stage, but yeah, got the feedback that, yeah,

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 7>Craig thought there was something there, and I was like, oh,

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 7>that's quite interesting. Sort of went away and kept tinking

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:29.319
<v Speaker 7>with it a little bit, but still kept bowl medium pace.

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 7>Sort of in games and that sort of stuff, and

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 7>then I reckon It was the next year after that

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.799
<v Speaker 7>that I moved down to Bendigo to play cricket where

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 7>Craig was captain the Sands Criet club and got a

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 7>full year with him before I went down to Saint Kilda,

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 7>just being able to Yeah, I was only training down

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 7>in Bendigo sort of once a week, maybe twice a

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:49.400
<v Speaker 7>week every now and then with school and all that,

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 7>but just getting that constant I suppose work with him

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 7>and just sort of yeah, learning off him and what

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 7>he was seeing and thinking, and yeah, that's sort of

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:01.280
<v Speaker 7>where my I've spin sort of started.

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, can you count your lucky stars a bit?

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Going, Like, you grow up in a reasonably remote part

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.840
<v Speaker 3>of the world, not just Australia, and you know in

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 3>your backyard is this world class spin coach.

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:16.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it is pretty cool and I guess that's yeah,

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 7>one of the beauties of the country is like Craig

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 7>saw someone there that I thought was worth working with,

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.719
<v Speaker 7>and yeah, he was so giving with his time as

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 7>well at that stage and just had a real passion

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.919
<v Speaker 7>for spin bowling and wanted to see everyone that could

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 7>do it. Give it a good crack. So yeah, one

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 7>hundred percent like to have someone like that only an

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 7>hour away from me was super lucky. And then it

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:40.959
<v Speaker 7>sort of was funny how it worked, like ever since

0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:44.400
<v Speaker 7>I started working with Craig then he was sort of

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:46.760
<v Speaker 7>the spin consultant for the pathway stuff for Cricket Australia,

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 7>so throughout those national carnivals was still going to chat

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 7>to him, and then under nine M World Cup he

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 7>was around. We had a lot of little different trips

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 7>to the MRF camp in India where he was there

0:45:57.520 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 7>as well as a spin consultant. So yeah, it was

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 7>sort of just one of those ones that seemed to

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.880
<v Speaker 7>just align really well and build a really good relationship

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 7>over the last ten or so years to Yeah, we

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 7>was help so much.

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:11.719
<v Speaker 3>Can I specifically about this year that the work he

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 3>did with him in August? Can you talk us through

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:16.359
<v Speaker 3>what was going wrong and what you did to fix it.

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:18.759
<v Speaker 7>There was probably just a couple of things that was

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 7>creeping in when I was over in County Cricket wasn't

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 7>loving how I was bowling, and it just sort of

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 7>felt that I lacked a little bit of energy on

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:27.240
<v Speaker 7>the ball and I didn't know why, because I felt

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:30.719
<v Speaker 7>like my energy within myself was really good, and it

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 7>just felt like sort of the end product wasn't exactly

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 7>where I wanted it, and sort of was chatting to

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 7>Craig the whole time I was over there, and he

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:38.839
<v Speaker 7>was just throwing a couple of things at me, and

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 7>I was looking through it, and it's a.

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 6>Bit different over there. I didn't have access to.

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.319
<v Speaker 7>Review my footage, so I was sort of trying to

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 7>go back and watch YouTube live streams and that, but

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 7>it was quite hard to sort of get the right

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:52.840
<v Speaker 7>angles of what we're trying to work through and understand that.

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, when I got home, it sort of just

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 7>worked out that he'd finished up with Sri Lanka as well,

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 7>so he was back in Bendigo, and yeah, we just

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 7>chatted and worked out Sunday that was going to work,

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:06.239
<v Speaker 7>and I just got got in the car and drove

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 7>to Bendigo, which was only two hours from home, so

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 7>that wasn't too bad. Went down the Sunday morning and

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 7>it was literally only an hour an hour and a

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 7>half of work that we just tinker with a few

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:19.359
<v Speaker 7>different things, some alignment stuff and just trying to get

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 7>all my energy directed the right way and just get

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.360
<v Speaker 7>my arm path coming back through where we wanted it to.

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:26.920
<v Speaker 7>And yeah, it was sort of an hour of hour

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:29.400
<v Speaker 7>and a half of work and just some vision stuff

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 7>and then it was sort of back onto me to

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:34.839
<v Speaker 7>go back to Melbourne, back to big training and sort

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 7>of be able to drill the stuff that we worked

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 7>on there. And yeah, it felt like from that point onwards,

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 7>I sort of was back to what I was doing.

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 7>I felt like I was in good positions again, and

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 7>I felt like I had the energy back on the

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 7>ball that I sort of was looking for over the

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 7>last sort of yeah, year and year and a bit.

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:52.760
<v Speaker 7>So I think back to what you said before around

0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 7>my shoulder, It felt like I was maybe just over

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 7>compensating for the lack of power at a time where

0:47:57.680 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 7>I was trying to create it in different ways, but

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 7>that got me into bad position. So now that I

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 7>trust that, I've done a lot of the work to

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:06.320
<v Speaker 7>get myself back to a position where I feel like

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:08.239
<v Speaker 7>I'm physically strong and can do all the stuff with

0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 7>my shoulders. Okay, what have you sort of gone away

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 7>from here and how can you just get back into

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 7>better positions and trust that, Yeah, you're sort of you're

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 7>going to have the power in the right spots.

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 3>That's really brilliant. And what was all this done? Like

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 3>in a synthoet?

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, just at Santas Creer Club back where where we

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:29.800
<v Speaker 7>both played. And yes, one syntho net with a Craigate

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 7>his iPad out and a bag of balls and just

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 7>yea bawl into an empty net and yeah, just sort

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:39.040
<v Speaker 7>of back to real basics, but sort of just rediscovering, yeah,

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 7>what it was. And that's probably the biggest thing that

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.719
<v Speaker 7>I sort of get from Craig is he's sort of

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:45.920
<v Speaker 7>known me from when I started to where I am now,

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:48.880
<v Speaker 7>so he can see those small little things that have

0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 7>changed that maybe I don't even feel, so yeah, that's

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 7>been the best part of it.

0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 1>Who else, Obviously Craig has been a massive influence on

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 1>your career. Are there other spin bowlers who or particular

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:00.839
<v Speaker 1>coaches who have had a big flint on youll career?

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:02.960
<v Speaker 7>I've been really lucky sort of everywhere I've went, I

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.799
<v Speaker 7>felt like I've been around a really good spin bowl

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:07.719
<v Speaker 7>in the senior spin bowler as well. So when I

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 7>first stepped into the Victorian set up, had Johnny Holln

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:13.840
<v Speaker 7>there to work with, who obviously played a bit of

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:15.200
<v Speaker 7>test create but a hell of a lot of first

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:17.839
<v Speaker 7>guys forgetten. He was really good for me as well,

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 7>and probably more learned off him the tactical side of

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:23.879
<v Speaker 7>the game and how that looks and what he'd sort

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:27.879
<v Speaker 7>of do approaching games and approaching different batters. So yeah,

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 7>it was really lucky to work with him. And then

0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 7>the last couple of years he's been doing some coaching

0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:34.839
<v Speaker 7>at Victoria as well, so I've been able to keep

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.719
<v Speaker 7>that relationship which has been awesome. Yeah, my first taste

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 7>the Sixers, I had Steve O'Keefe here as well, so

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:42.960
<v Speaker 7>from white ball point of view, was awesome to be

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:46.919
<v Speaker 7>around him and learn off him. And then ever since

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 7>I've been around the Australian set up, I've had Dan

0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:51.720
<v Speaker 7>v Toori there as well, who's one of the best

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:54.920
<v Speaker 7>spin bowls to play, so and obviously Nathan Lyon. So

0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:57.439
<v Speaker 7>been super lucky in the environments that I've been into

0:49:57.560 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 7>that I've had those sort of guys around, So yeah,

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:02.839
<v Speaker 7>it's always great to bounce ideas off those guys who

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:05.120
<v Speaker 7>have had the experiences and seen a lot around the world.

0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:06.600
<v Speaker 6>And yeah, just learned off them.

0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 1>And I can't say I've ever seen Craig bowl in

0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 1>his days for Victoria, but according to his online profile

0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 1>he's a leg spinner. Did he ever try and convince

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:15.920
<v Speaker 1>you to bow leg spin in your early day? Now?

0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:17.840
<v Speaker 7>So when I was playing with Craig, he was an

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 7>ospiner right at the end of his career. So he

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 7>started as a young leggie and from all reports, a

0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 7>beautiful leg break, and then I think he had similar

0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:28.480
<v Speaker 7>sort of he had really bad shoulder of stuff where

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:31.279
<v Speaker 7>he went through some surgeries and now I don't think

0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 7>he ever rediscovered his best with legspin, so then he

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:36.160
<v Speaker 7>reverted to ospin. I think he was quite close of

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 7>playing for Victoria as well as an ospiner. So yeah,

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:40.879
<v Speaker 7>he's obviously I think that's what makes me a really

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:43.840
<v Speaker 7>good coach as well. He's got sort of both aspects

0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:46.719
<v Speaker 7>covered really well, and yeah, can sort of. Yeah, he's

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:49.400
<v Speaker 7>really really coachbought to different guys, So yeah, he was

0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:50.840
<v Speaker 7>a really nice off here when I was playing with

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:52.800
<v Speaker 7>him as well. He made some country career that to

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 7>looked quite silly.

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Apparently the emergence of a young leg spinner named Shane

0:50:56.600 --> 0:50:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Warren didn't help his So yeah.

0:50:59.200 --> 0:50:59.919
<v Speaker 6>To take a back seat.

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:03.160
<v Speaker 3>What about off spinners around the world Todd like, who

0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 3>do you or who have you looked at in the past,

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.359
<v Speaker 3>and who do you kind of other bits of their

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<v Speaker 3>game that that you try and take.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's you don't have to look too much

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<v Speaker 7>further than Eith And I think sort of the thing

0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 7>that you look at him and what makes him so

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:22.000
<v Speaker 7>good is just his adaptability around the world and it's

0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 7>not changing much. It's sort of he's just found a

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.400
<v Speaker 7>recipe that works for him and he can go to

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:28.719
<v Speaker 7>any conditions. It can be day one on a green

0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 7>wicket or day five on a spinning wicket in the

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:35.400
<v Speaker 7>subcontinent and he'll be ultracompetitive. So you don't have to

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 7>look much further than him, But yeah, you're always looking

0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 7>at a different spinners, like love to watch an Ashman

0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:43.680
<v Speaker 7>bowl and all his sort of saddle variations, and then

0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:45.759
<v Speaker 7>even as close back as Simon Harmer in the last

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:47.399
<v Speaker 7>Test series over in India, Like just watching a guy

0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:49.520
<v Speaker 7>like that who's he sort of hasn't played a hell

0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:52.240
<v Speaker 7>of all international cricket but been dominating first class cricket

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:53.759
<v Speaker 7>for a long time, and to watch him go over

0:51:53.800 --> 0:51:54.520
<v Speaker 7>there and do.

0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:55.160
<v Speaker 6>That sort of stuff.

0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:57.960
<v Speaker 7>It's it's always great to watch and just try and

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:01.280
<v Speaker 7>I suppose understand different trends of the and what Ospin's

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 7>trying to do at different different stages in different parts

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:05.120
<v Speaker 7>of the world's really important as well in my learning.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it.

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Felt like we went through like a thing with off spin,

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:12.000
<v Speaker 3>like maybe ten years ago, like everyone wanted to buy

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:14.320
<v Speaker 3>like ademail, right, and you had to get that flex

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 3>in your elbow and push the push the limits, and

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:19.080
<v Speaker 3>you need to learn how to bubble boozer. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're almost saying that lines Naith is just kind of

0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:25.000
<v Speaker 3>simplified things for emerging offices.

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<v Speaker 6>I think so.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think you look at a lot of the

0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 7>best bowls in the world, like even the quicks that

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 7>we've got now, like Paddy and Half and that, like

0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:33.759
<v Speaker 7>they don't change overly a lot, and they're just so

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 7>good at repeating the same thing and just asking the

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:40.359
<v Speaker 7>batters to make decisions off their best ball. So that's

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:43.880
<v Speaker 7>sort of been I think the biggest strength has just

0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:47.280
<v Speaker 7>been he's always challenging the batsman's defense and it's always

0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 7>in the game. And when you're doing that over a

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:50.600
<v Speaker 7>long period of time, You're always going to get your rewards.

0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 1>If we just bake up again to the start of

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:54.799
<v Speaker 1>the year the Sri Lanka two. Are you headed over there?

0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:57.640
<v Speaker 1>But then you finish the tool with only one test?

0:52:57.960 --> 0:52:59.560
<v Speaker 1>How did you sort of how do you sort of

0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:01.879
<v Speaker 1>reflect on that, knowing that you would have been hoping

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:02.839
<v Speaker 1>to obviously play both.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, for sure, you're going over there and you want

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:05.560
<v Speaker 6>to be able to play a role.

0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it was no different to anything I've sort

0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:12.360
<v Speaker 7>of said before, Like it was obviously awesome to play

0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 7>the first Test and be back in the group again

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 7>after a sort of a year and a half out,

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 7>so it was great back around it. And then yeah,

0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 7>you get left out in the second Test, but that's

0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:22.000
<v Speaker 7>part of it, and I don't think my mindset sort

0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 7>of shifted from that at all. It was just, yeah,

0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:27.799
<v Speaker 7>I still want to keep developing my game, and I

0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:29.640
<v Speaker 7>know I'm nowhere near sort of the finished bowl that

0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:31.719
<v Speaker 7>I can get to, So it was just, yeah, I

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:34.160
<v Speaker 7>suppose once year get left out of sight, it's like, Okay,

0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 7>I've got still plenty of stuff to work on. So

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:38.440
<v Speaker 7>back to Shield cricket, back to finish in that season,

0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 7>in Shield cricket, and then off season you keep working

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:42.839
<v Speaker 7>away and you're trying, yeah, give yourself the best chance

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:45.080
<v Speaker 7>of the next opportunity you get. Hopefully you're in a

0:53:45.120 --> 0:53:47.359
<v Speaker 7>better place of with your bowling than where you were

0:53:47.360 --> 0:53:48.880
<v Speaker 7>when you played your last game. So that's sort of

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:51.960
<v Speaker 7>how I approached it. And yeah, there was no issues

0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 7>there at all. It was, Yeah, another good opportunity to

0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:56.920
<v Speaker 7>go to a different country and learn and yeah go

0:53:56.960 --> 0:53:57.319
<v Speaker 7>from there.

0:53:57.360 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 1>And when you head over there to beat India or Schlanko,

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:02.799
<v Speaker 1>maybe a grand in Australia that spins a lot. Do

0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:04.880
<v Speaker 1>you get excited by that opportunity or is there that

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:07.960
<v Speaker 1>extra expectation that people think, oh, well the spin is

0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:09.840
<v Speaker 1>going to dominate here. How do you sort of balance

0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 1>that expectation.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's a good question. I think that's definitely a

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 7>challenge at different times. But yeah, obviously you're super excited.

0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 7>It's always nice when you see the ball spin and

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:24.120
<v Speaker 7>you know you're in the game. But then there's, yeah,

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 7>there is that added responsibility where it's like, okay, all

0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:28.800
<v Speaker 7>these are your conditions. Now it's your chance to go

0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:31.840
<v Speaker 7>and win the game. And you don't get that overly

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:34.040
<v Speaker 7>A lot in Australia. So it's when you do get

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 7>those opportunities around the world, you want to make the

0:54:36.680 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 7>most of it because you know that the next one

0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:42.040
<v Speaker 7>might not be too soon. So yeah, there's that added

0:54:42.120 --> 0:54:44.719
<v Speaker 7>responsibility and pressure. But I think the excitement overweghs that

0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:46.440
<v Speaker 7>and you go, oh this is awesome. I want to

0:54:46.440 --> 0:54:47.840
<v Speaker 7>get in the contest and try and see what I

0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:48.120
<v Speaker 7>can do.

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<v Speaker 4>Todd.

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<v Speaker 3>We're hoping Adam Lewis gets on his lawn mower over the.

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:53.759
<v Speaker 4>Next day or two. I don't know a word to him.

0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you not get on the mower yourself, and yeah,

0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 3>shave a bit of grass on it so we can.

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<v Speaker 4>So you play this week of the s A J

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<v Speaker 4>talk all the best if.

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<v Speaker 6>You, Thank you boys. Cheers m

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<v Speaker 1>H.