WEBVTT - LAZY SUSAN - RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE - STAN AUSTRALIA

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast last week.

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<v Speaker 2>They're right.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for clicking and downloading. On today's episode with

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<v Speaker 3>the winner of RuPaul's Drag Race down Under Season four,

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<v Speaker 3>I have a absolutely delightful chat with Lazy Susan ready

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<v Speaker 3>for you guys today. This run of the Australian version

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<v Speaker 3>has been a real joy to watch and the last

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<v Speaker 3>four contestants were the strongest top four that we have

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<v Speaker 3>seen in our country and I'm pleased that Lazy has

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<v Speaker 3>won as I have absolutely rooted for hers right from

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<v Speaker 3>the start of this competition. Lazy will talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>viewing party and what went down on the night the

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<v Speaker 3>queen's found out who won. We will unpack all the

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<v Speaker 3>queens in the finale and what order Lazy thought the

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<v Speaker 3>queens would be eliminated. I will find out if Rupe

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<v Speaker 3>Paul himself has been in contact and what Michelle Visage

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<v Speaker 3>did to acknowledge the finale. You will get everything from

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<v Speaker 3>the way in which Lazy honored her mother and the finale,

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<v Speaker 3>how the queens united with family and friends at that finale,

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<v Speaker 3>and what Lazy has planned to do with her crown

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<v Speaker 3>now that she is the winner of a Ruphols Drag

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<v Speaker 3>Race season There's actually so much to talk about, with

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<v Speaker 3>so many inside revelations. So guys sit back and relax

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<v Speaker 3>as we unpack the wonderful world of rup Phuls Drag

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<v Speaker 3>Race down Under season four. How are you Lazy?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you good? I'm very good. But I just won

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<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand dollars on television.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good thing. It's a good feeling. I can

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<v Speaker 3>tell you. I've had a cash injection from a similar experience,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like it's it's like when you win money,

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<v Speaker 3>like gambling. In some way, it doesn't feel like the

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<v Speaker 3>money that you would get of You couldn't agree more.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's work, you know, you know, toiling your

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<v Speaker 4>entire life, you know, behind a desk, and then there's

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<v Speaker 4>getting dressed up like a lazy Susan and spinning jeweled

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<v Speaker 4>desserts around your body for the entertainment of cross stresses

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<v Speaker 4>and former Go Group stars.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is my work, and it's so so happy

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<v Speaker 2>that I just got a random sum of money to

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about you, but for me, I felt

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<v Speaker 3>like you were going to win this from episode one.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>I truly like it was this insane experience of being like,

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<v Speaker 4>there is there is an absolute case to be made

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<v Speaker 4>for like so many people in this competition to be

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<v Speaker 4>the winner of this whole thing, because there are just

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<v Speaker 4>I mean there's just talent on talent on talent on

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<v Speaker 4>talent in this cast, and I feel absolutely shocked that

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<v Speaker 4>I got to be the one that gets the money.

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<v Speaker 4>And now that I do, I feel this like intense

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<v Speaker 4>responsibility to be like, Okay, I'm going to do the

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<v Speaker 4>most I can with it to try and make it

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm worthy of this honor.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you could possibly be the most humble winner

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<v Speaker 3>of this entire franchise in every country around the world.

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<v Speaker 3>I've watched them all. I've watched them all, my friend,

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<v Speaker 3>I just think there's something so I don't think if

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<v Speaker 3>anyone seen anyone so talented but yet be so humble

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, going for the Mother Teresa Award over here.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I will put cigarettes out on service workers

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<v Speaker 4>later tonight, so don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still a monster. I just unfortunately have like.

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<v Speaker 4>Eyes and the ability to recognize, like Vibe and Mandy

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<v Speaker 4>and fucking Freyer and all of these bitches, how fucking

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<v Speaker 4>talented they are, and how annoying that was, because I

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<v Speaker 4>really would love to just sit here and be like,

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<v Speaker 4>obviously I'm the best, But no, there's when you're in

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<v Speaker 4>that company, you lose that privilege.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I know that you guys got together to have

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of a viewing party for the finale last Friday,

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<v Speaker 3>All I want to know is I want to know

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<v Speaker 3>the goss from behind the scenes of that event. What

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<v Speaker 3>went down? What do we need to know? Is there

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<v Speaker 3>any scandal? But we have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Unpack nothing but scandal?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, My favorite highlights of the evening My wig, This

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<v Speaker 4>wig that I was wearing for the finale mysteriously went

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<v Speaker 4>missing in the dressing room. Here's me trying to start

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<v Speaker 4>my drama, but no, my wig went missing. And I

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<v Speaker 4>was at the venue and we're about to open the

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<v Speaker 4>doors to let people in to watch the final episode,

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<v Speaker 4>and I didn't have a wig to wear. And so

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<v Speaker 4>the incredible staff at the Universal like went and tore

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<v Speaker 4>through building and found my wig. And they came back

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<v Speaker 4>and they were like, they thought it was trash. They

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<v Speaker 4>put it in the garbage. I almost didn't have a

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<v Speaker 4>wig for the finale, so that was very chic and

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<v Speaker 4>very like last minute chaos, and I mean, really sorry

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<v Speaker 4>to be this girl, but like it was just like

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of us meeting all the loved ones of

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<v Speaker 4>the other contestants, which was fabulous. But the highlight of

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<v Speaker 4>that was that they had their friends and loved ones

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<v Speaker 4>line up, and then you had my dad in his

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<v Speaker 4>best little suit, and my sister and her Sunday Bess

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<v Speaker 4>and my boyfriend's sitting there, and then you had Mandy's

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<v Speaker 4>gorgeous husband, and then you had Mandy's two pigs there

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<v Speaker 4>who were in their like pop masks, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>like this kind of heartwarming queer rendition of like a

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<v Speaker 4>pageant moment where you just like kind explain this picture

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<v Speaker 4>to a straight person of what we're doing here when

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<v Speaker 4>everyone's crying.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just so incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>I cried the whole way through the season finale, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's because I relate to the reality when

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<v Speaker 3>something's real, and I'm think your declaration towards your mom

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<v Speaker 3>was very emotional as a viewer to watch, but it

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<v Speaker 3>also was sort of this full circle moment to sort

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<v Speaker 3>of understand your heart and where you get this big

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<v Speaker 3>heart from. And I felt an overwhelming sense of emotion

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<v Speaker 3>hearing you talk about your mom. Yeah, I felt.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think the part thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think part of the reason that I feel

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<v Speaker 4>so open about that experience of my mum is that

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<v Speaker 4>despite the fact that it is a profound loss in

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<v Speaker 4>my life, it is also like it's not one that's

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<v Speaker 4>tainted by a negative emotion. I'm so proud of the

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<v Speaker 4>person that my mother was, and I'm so excited to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about her and to kind of keep her alive

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<v Speaker 4>in that way of just you know, discussing the person

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<v Speaker 4>that she allowed me to be. And yeah, like I

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<v Speaker 4>think that sometimes in the show, people are forced to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about things that are incredibly vulnerable, that are not

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<v Speaker 4>resolved or are not don't have like a warm emotion

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<v Speaker 4>behind them. And I think that I had a very

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<v Speaker 4>different experience because I was able to talk about something

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<v Speaker 4>that's incredibly close to me and yes, incredibly vulnerable, but

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<v Speaker 4>something that brings me a lot of joy to think

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<v Speaker 4>about and to talk about because I really love my

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<v Speaker 4>mom and she's freaking cool, and I'm glad that I

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<v Speaker 4>got to like give her like her props for putting

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<v Speaker 4>up with having such a faggy sun order is I.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel like I'm going to cry all over again. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like because it was available to you and that's

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<v Speaker 3>how it came across you delivered that was that it

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<v Speaker 3>actually helped a lot of people with grief. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was reading some of those comments online last night, and

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<v Speaker 3>you quite often see people talk about reality TV where

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<v Speaker 3>that on reality TV where they say, oh, lost my

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<v Speaker 3>parents and it's a bit of this sort of sad story,

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<v Speaker 3>and they sometimes it feels like that's sad stories being

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<v Speaker 3>used in a way to get them further along, where

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<v Speaker 3>for you, there was something very authentic about it. It

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<v Speaker 3>was something very It could tell that you had processed

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<v Speaker 3>it and you were ready to share that. And I

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<v Speaker 3>thought that was very powerful, very powerful television.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that that whole episode of just seeing like,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was absolutely losing my mind.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm seeing like when Vibe and May was speaking specifically

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<v Speaker 4>about their experiences and I'd not seen the kind of

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<v Speaker 4>other side where they're talking to Michelle and when they

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<v Speaker 4>were talking their confessionals, and it was seeing them be

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<v Speaker 4>so vulnerable when I'd known them as these kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like diva monsters. And I was right there with you

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<v Speaker 4>as an audience member, kind of seeing that for the

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<v Speaker 4>first time and just being like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>And so like we're all sobbing. It was just ridiculous

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<v Speaker 2>at the finale.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that it was a really good final episode,

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<v Speaker 4>because sometimes those final episodes can be a bit of

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<v Speaker 4>a drag, but I think it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Crag in the best way possible. Yeah, yes, I loved it,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know that's it's really nice to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>that moment, but it also would be remissive me not

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<v Speaker 3>to ask you for some you know, some shady responses

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<v Speaker 3>from you as well. Do we know who?

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<v Speaker 2>Who?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you think going into that finale was second, third,

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<v Speaker 3>and fourth? That's what I don't know, is that true

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<v Speaker 3>to one path? But that's I thought about it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I get this chance to meet lazy

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<v Speaker 3>Susan today, and that's what I want to know.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, you want me to throw them all under the bus,

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<v Speaker 4>You know what is really like? It is like if

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<v Speaker 4>you were just going by that challenge, I think Freya

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<v Speaker 4>might have just won everything. Like her finale gown was

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely spectacular, and then her verse like was like pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much drag excellence in the sense of like that is

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<v Speaker 4>like the drag Race verse, and she did a full

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<v Speaker 4>on walkover and just like ate it up, like and

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<v Speaker 4>there was a shot where me and Vibe and Mandy

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<v Speaker 4>are standing there looking at her grumpy while she's just

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<v Speaker 4>tearing up the stage and finally getting her dance challenge,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, I said it to her like

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<v Speaker 4>as we were doing the press, I'm like, how's the

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<v Speaker 4>world going to feel when they see how much you

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<v Speaker 4>actually just won that final challenge? So I would say

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<v Speaker 4>prayer first, and then I think, like, you can't go

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<v Speaker 4>past mother pig with her nips out, like just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>three sets of nipples on a main stage of Drag

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<v Speaker 4>Race is just chef's kiss with a pork sausage boa

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<v Speaker 4>truly iconic.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I will.

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<v Speaker 4>Be entirely self deprecating and put Vibe next because of

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<v Speaker 4>her fucking fan work and her ability to move her

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<v Speaker 4>mouth and body at the same time, which is spectacular,

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<v Speaker 4>And then I will be once again just a humble,

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<v Speaker 4>raining girl as long as they don't have to give

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<v Speaker 4>up a single cent of my money.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you get an email from rup Paul because he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't there for the series, he had any from rupe Phaul,

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<v Speaker 3>like does he send you a text? Or does he

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<v Speaker 3>slide into your Instagram? What's happened?

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<v Speaker 4>He called me after the Crown was on in the

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<v Speaker 4>dressing room and he said, Lazy, I know I'm not there,

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<v Speaker 4>but I just wish I could hug you and say

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so proud of your work. I went back and

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<v Speaker 4>watched all your YouTube videos and I just think you're

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<v Speaker 4>so talented and I would like to qudually invite you

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<v Speaker 4>to be part of All Winners, which we're shooting next

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<v Speaker 4>year in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like it was an incredible moment. I just

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, that's absolutely I know, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>RuPaul doesn't talk to us at all. No, RuPaul lives

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<v Speaker 2>in a mansion in LA.

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<v Speaker 4>She's got better thing things to do than to call

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<v Speaker 4>a cross dresser in fucking Universal in Sydney and say

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<v Speaker 4>thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>But Michelle would have said something, because I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>spoke to Michelle just before she was going to do

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<v Speaker 3>Big Brother in the UK. This is I would say

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<v Speaker 3>it almost ten years ago now and I remember thinking

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<v Speaker 3>she was so accessible for someone who is so famous,

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<v Speaker 3>that she is just very a very real person while

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<v Speaker 3>still being extraordinarily large on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, well that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean she is a genuine like she's a Jersey

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<v Speaker 4>girl like through and through, like there's no bullshit. She

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<v Speaker 4>genuinely means what she says and does what she means

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever the fuck you say.

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<v Speaker 2>But she sent us.

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<v Speaker 4>All as a video message before we were about to

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<v Speaker 4>go to the crowning and was just like, hey, girls,

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<v Speaker 4>I just want you to know I love you so.

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<v Speaker 2>Much, blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>And so yeah, she's it's been just incredible every step

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<v Speaker 4>of the way and truly, like what you see is

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<v Speaker 4>what you get with Michelle Visage.

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<v Speaker 2>She is an absolute mane, like a real queen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember Re saying that to me one day. He

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I was like, what's it like working with

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<v Speaker 3>Michelle Visage? And he was like, just very real person,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, and that's so rare in television to

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<v Speaker 3>be like that. Now, I want to quickly ask, because

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to go because you've got to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>everyone in Australia today, But what do you want to

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<v Speaker 3>do with this experience. Is this getting on stage and

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<v Speaker 3>touring Australia, Is it taking a global like do you

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<v Speaker 3>have plans about what you want to do with this crown?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, like I have had that money spent for

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<v Speaker 4>about six months now. In my head, I really want

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<v Speaker 4>to combine my love of filmmaking with Drag. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>the next project I want to work on, kind of

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<v Speaker 4>in a longer term sense is try and get a

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<v Speaker 4>film made.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have some more.

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<v Speaker 4>Drag projects at my sleeve that are specifically to do

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<v Speaker 4>with Melbourne Drag that I guess There'll be more information

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<v Speaker 4>coming on that soon, but rest assured there's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be a lot of silly bits coming and I think

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<v Speaker 4>the focus of the ring will be about putting drag

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<v Speaker 4>on screen.

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<v Speaker 3>What's in your DNA, you know, it's in your Making content,

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<v Speaker 3>Making television and entertaining people is a part of who

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<v Speaker 3>you are.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my dream.

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<v Speaker 4>And also the great thing about TV and video content

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<v Speaker 4>is you can edit it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, that's a good point. Did anyone of the other

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<v Speaker 3>previous winners over the other seasons, have they all contacted

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<v Speaker 3>you to say congratulations or any of them not?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, they have all reached out, which has been lovely,

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<v Speaker 4>Like just this good is so real, It's like very kind,

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<v Speaker 4>very kind ladies.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you give me it behind the scenes secret? Every

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<v Speaker 3>episode of my podcast I have to end with something

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<v Speaker 3>behind the scenes and we'll ask if we're allowed to

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<v Speaker 3>run it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've got a secret.

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<v Speaker 3>From behind the scenes of filming the series that you

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<v Speaker 3>can share.

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<v Speaker 2>Good secret. Oh my god, I wish I had one

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<v Speaker 2>to hand. What's so like? What's something I haven't said anywhere?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean nothing, I would ever say a secret.

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<v Speaker 3>I wants something exclusive.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. Okay, it's a good one.

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<v Speaker 4>A fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>What is a really good cigret? Actually?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what might be good? Can you once

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<v Speaker 3>you've been asked to do the show, do you then

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<v Speaker 3>try and work out who else is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>in this series? Or is it in your contract that

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<v Speaker 3>you're not allowed to try and do that kind of reconnaissance?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh honey.

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<v Speaker 4>The Melbourne drag scene and the drag scene in general

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<v Speaker 4>is so like, like, you know, if they like, we

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<v Speaker 4>would have found that missing flight, you know, Malaysia Air

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<v Speaker 4>one five sixs or whatever in like three seconds. If

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<v Speaker 4>they've been a drag queen going on drag race on

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<v Speaker 4>that flight, because yeah, we knew within I think six days,

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<v Speaker 4>every single calast member. Okay, yeah, you can't not know

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<v Speaker 4>because all the costumers speak. So every costumer that's getting

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<v Speaker 4>contacted for suddenly a giant gig for a girl that's

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<v Speaker 4>suddenly got infinite money to spend. Yeah, who's like yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>So that's it, I think as well. The big secret

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<v Speaker 4>for me was that I was such a messy drag

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<v Speaker 4>queen because I'm a very messy person that they had

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<v Speaker 4>to consistently shoot around the pile of crap that was

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<v Speaker 4>my corner of the room.

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<v Speaker 1>So they ended up having to take all of my

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<v Speaker 1>crap and put it through the pit crew door. And

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<v Speaker 1>so sometimes you'll see me walk through the pit crew

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<v Speaker 1>door to go and get some one of my costumes

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<v Speaker 1>because they've had to hide it all because I'm a messy.

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<v Speaker 3>Slob because it's a mess of crap behind it. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>but can I just say I am in your audience.

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<v Speaker 3>I think as I have been for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to see what you do with all

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<v Speaker 3>of this. I think it's going to be very exciting

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<v Speaker 3>and just enjoy and un revel in the next few

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<v Speaker 3>weeks were coming off the back of a win like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Ben, I'm so excited.