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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to
Speaker 3: thank you for clicking and downloading. On today's episode with
Speaker 3: the winner of RuPaul's Drag Race down Under Season four,
Speaker 3: I have a absolutely delightful chat with Lazy Susan ready
Speaker 3: for you guys today. This run of the Australian version
Speaker 3: has been a real joy to watch and the last
Speaker 3: four contestants were the strongest top four that we have
Speaker 3: seen in our country and I'm pleased that Lazy has
Speaker 3: won as I have absolutely rooted for hers right from
Speaker 3: the start of this competition. Lazy will talk about the
Speaker 3: viewing party and what went down on the night the
Speaker 3: queen's found out who won. We will unpack all the
Speaker 3: queens in the finale and what order Lazy thought the
Speaker 3: queens would be eliminated. I will find out if Rupe
Speaker 3: Paul himself has been in contact and what Michelle Visage
Speaker 3: did to acknowledge the finale. You will get everything from
Speaker 3: the way in which Lazy honored her mother and the finale,
Speaker 3: how the queens united with family and friends at that finale,
Speaker 3: and what Lazy has planned to do with her crown
Speaker 3: now that she is the winner of a Ruphols Drag
Speaker 3: Race season There's actually so much to talk about, with
Speaker 3: so many inside revelations. So guys sit back and relax
Speaker 3: as we unpack the wonderful world of rup Phuls Drag
Speaker 3: Race down Under season four. How are you Lazy?
Speaker 2: Are you good? I'm very good. But I just won
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars on television.
Speaker 3: It's a good thing. It's a good feeling. I can
Speaker 3: tell you. I've had a cash injection from a similar experience,
Speaker 3: and it's like it's it's like when you win money,
Speaker 3: like gambling. In some way, it doesn't feel like the
Speaker 3: money that you would get of You couldn't agree more.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's work, you know, you know, toiling your
Speaker 4: entire life, you know, behind a desk, and then there's
Speaker 4: getting dressed up like a lazy Susan and spinning jeweled
Speaker 4: desserts around your body for the entertainment of cross stresses
Speaker 4: and former Go Group stars.
Speaker 2: And that is my work, and it's so so happy
Speaker 2: that I just got a random sum of money to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but for me, I felt
Speaker 3: like you were going to win this from episode one.
Speaker 2: I had no idea.
Speaker 4: I truly like it was this insane experience of being like,
Speaker 4: there is there is an absolute case to be made
Speaker 4: for like so many people in this competition to be
Speaker 4: the winner of this whole thing, because there are just
Speaker 4: I mean there's just talent on talent on talent on
Speaker 4: talent in this cast, and I feel absolutely shocked that
Speaker 4: I got to be the one that gets the money.
Speaker 4: And now that I do, I feel this like intense
Speaker 4: responsibility to be like, Okay, I'm going to do the
Speaker 4: most I can with it to try and make it
Speaker 4: that I'm worthy of this honor.
Speaker 3: I think you could possibly be the most humble winner
Speaker 3: of this entire franchise in every country around the world.
Speaker 3: I've watched them all. I've watched them all, my friend,
Speaker 3: I just think there's something so I don't think if
Speaker 3: anyone seen anyone so talented but yet be so humble
Speaker 3: at the same time.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, going for the Mother Teresa Award over here.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: I mean, I will put cigarettes out on service workers
Speaker 4: later tonight, so don't worry.
Speaker 2: I'm still a monster. I just unfortunately have like.
Speaker 4: Eyes and the ability to recognize, like Vibe and Mandy
Speaker 4: and fucking Freyer and all of these bitches, how fucking
Speaker 4: talented they are, and how annoying that was, because I
Speaker 4: really would love to just sit here and be like,
Speaker 4: obviously I'm the best, But no, there's when you're in
Speaker 4: that company, you lose that privilege.
Speaker 3: Now I know that you guys got together to have
Speaker 3: a bit of a viewing party for the finale last Friday,
Speaker 3: All I want to know is I want to know
Speaker 3: the goss from behind the scenes of that event. What
Speaker 3: went down? What do we need to know? Is there
Speaker 3: any scandal? But we have to.
Speaker 2: Unpack nothing but scandal?
Speaker 4: Okay, My favorite highlights of the evening My wig, This
Speaker 4: wig that I was wearing for the finale mysteriously went
Speaker 4: missing in the dressing room. Here's me trying to start
Speaker 4: my drama, but no, my wig went missing. And I
Speaker 4: was at the venue and we're about to open the
Speaker 4: doors to let people in to watch the final episode,
Speaker 4: and I didn't have a wig to wear. And so
Speaker 4: the incredible staff at the Universal like went and tore
Speaker 4: through building and found my wig. And they came back
Speaker 4: and they were like, they thought it was trash. They
Speaker 4: put it in the garbage. I almost didn't have a
Speaker 4: wig for the finale, so that was very chic and
Speaker 4: very like last minute chaos, and I mean, really sorry
Speaker 4: to be this girl, but like it was just like
Speaker 4: a lot of us meeting all the loved ones of
Speaker 4: the other contestants, which was fabulous. But the highlight of
Speaker 4: that was that they had their friends and loved ones
Speaker 4: line up, and then you had my dad in his
Speaker 4: best little suit, and my sister and her Sunday Bess
Speaker 4: and my boyfriend's sitting there, and then you had Mandy's
Speaker 4: gorgeous husband, and then you had Mandy's two pigs there
Speaker 4: who were in their like pop masks, and it was
Speaker 4: like this kind of heartwarming queer rendition of like a
Speaker 4: pageant moment where you just like kind explain this picture
Speaker 4: to a straight person of what we're doing here when
Speaker 4: everyone's crying.
Speaker 2: It was just so incredible.
Speaker 3: I cried the whole way through the season finale, and
Speaker 3: I think it's because I relate to the reality when
Speaker 3: something's real, and I'm think your declaration towards your mom
Speaker 3: was very emotional as a viewer to watch, but it
Speaker 3: also was sort of this full circle moment to sort
Speaker 3: of understand your heart and where you get this big
Speaker 3: heart from. And I felt an overwhelming sense of emotion
Speaker 3: hearing you talk about your mom. Yeah, I felt.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the part thank you.
Speaker 4: And I think part of the reason that I feel
Speaker 4: so open about that experience of my mum is that
Speaker 4: despite the fact that it is a profound loss in
Speaker 4: my life, it is also like it's not one that's
Speaker 4: tainted by a negative emotion. I'm so proud of the
Speaker 4: person that my mother was, and I'm so excited to
Speaker 4: talk about her and to kind of keep her alive
Speaker 4: in that way of just you know, discussing the person
Speaker 4: that she allowed me to be. And yeah, like I
Speaker 4: think that sometimes in the show, people are forced to
Speaker 4: talk about things that are incredibly vulnerable, that are not
Speaker 4: resolved or are not don't have like a warm emotion
Speaker 4: behind them. And I think that I had a very
Speaker 4: different experience because I was able to talk about something
Speaker 4: that's incredibly close to me and yes, incredibly vulnerable, but
Speaker 4: something that brings me a lot of joy to think
Speaker 4: about and to talk about because I really love my
Speaker 4: mom and she's freaking cool, and I'm glad that I
Speaker 4: got to like give her like her props for putting
Speaker 4: up with having such a faggy sun order is I.
Speaker 3: Feel like I'm going to cry all over again. I
Speaker 3: feel like because it was available to you and that's
Speaker 3: how it came across you delivered that was that it
Speaker 3: actually helped a lot of people with grief. And I
Speaker 3: was reading some of those comments online last night, and
Speaker 3: you quite often see people talk about reality TV where
Speaker 3: that on reality TV where they say, oh, lost my
Speaker 3: parents and it's a bit of this sort of sad story,
Speaker 3: and they sometimes it feels like that's sad stories being
Speaker 3: used in a way to get them further along, where
Speaker 3: for you, there was something very authentic about it. It
Speaker 3: was something very It could tell that you had processed
Speaker 3: it and you were ready to share that. And I
Speaker 3: thought that was very powerful, very powerful television.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: And I think that that whole episode of just seeing like,
Speaker 4: I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Was absolutely losing my mind.
Speaker 4: I'm seeing like when Vibe and May was speaking specifically
Speaker 4: about their experiences and I'd not seen the kind of
Speaker 4: other side where they're talking to Michelle and when they
Speaker 4: were talking their confessionals, and it was seeing them be
Speaker 4: so vulnerable when I'd known them as these kind of
Speaker 4: like diva monsters. And I was right there with you
Speaker 4: as an audience member, kind of seeing that for the
Speaker 4: first time and just being like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: And so like we're all sobbing. It was just ridiculous
Speaker 2: at the finale.
Speaker 4: But I think that it was a really good final episode,
Speaker 4: because sometimes those final episodes can be a bit of
Speaker 4: a drag, but I think it was.
Speaker 3: Crag in the best way possible. Yeah, yes, I loved it,
Speaker 3: and you know that's it's really nice to talk about
Speaker 3: that moment, but it also would be remissive me not
Speaker 3: to ask you for some you know, some shady responses
Speaker 3: from you as well. Do we know who?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 3: Did you think going into that finale was second, third,
Speaker 3: and fourth? That's what I don't know, is that true
Speaker 3: to one path? But that's I thought about it, and
Speaker 3: I was like, I get this chance to meet lazy
Speaker 3: Susan today, and that's what I want to know.
Speaker 4: Now, you want me to throw them all under the bus,
Speaker 4: You know what is really like? It is like if
Speaker 4: you were just going by that challenge, I think Freya
Speaker 4: might have just won everything. Like her finale gown was
Speaker 4: absolutely spectacular, and then her verse like was like pretty
Speaker 4: much drag excellence in the sense of like that is
Speaker 4: like the drag Race verse, and she did a full
Speaker 4: on walkover and just like ate it up, like and
Speaker 4: there was a shot where me and Vibe and Mandy
Speaker 4: are standing there looking at her grumpy while she's just
Speaker 4: tearing up the stage and finally getting her dance challenge,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I said it to her like
Speaker 4: as we were doing the press, I'm like, how's the
Speaker 4: world going to feel when they see how much you
Speaker 4: actually just won that final challenge? So I would say
Speaker 4: prayer first, and then I think, like, you can't go
Speaker 4: past mother pig with her nips out, like just you know,
Speaker 4: three sets of nipples on a main stage of Drag
Speaker 4: Race is just chef's kiss with a pork sausage boa
Speaker 4: truly iconic.
Speaker 2: And then I will.
Speaker 4: Be entirely self deprecating and put Vibe next because of
Speaker 4: her fucking fan work and her ability to move her
Speaker 4: mouth and body at the same time, which is spectacular,
Speaker 4: And then I will be once again just a humble,
Speaker 4: raining girl as long as they don't have to give
Speaker 4: up a single cent of my money.
Speaker 3: Do you get an email from rup Paul because he
Speaker 3: wasn't there for the series, he had any from rupe Phaul,
Speaker 3: like does he send you a text? Or does he
Speaker 3: slide into your Instagram? What's happened?
Speaker 4: He called me after the Crown was on in the
Speaker 4: dressing room and he said, Lazy, I know I'm not there,
Speaker 4: but I just wish I could hug you and say
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of your work. I went back and
Speaker 4: watched all your YouTube videos and I just think you're
Speaker 4: so talented and I would like to qudually invite you
Speaker 4: to be part of All Winners, which we're shooting next
Speaker 4: year in Sydney.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like it was an incredible moment. I just
Speaker 2: couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's absolutely I know, not at all.
Speaker 2: RuPaul doesn't talk to us at all. No, RuPaul lives
Speaker 2: in a mansion in LA.
Speaker 4: She's got better thing things to do than to call
Speaker 4: a cross dresser in fucking Universal in Sydney and say
Speaker 4: thank you.
Speaker 3: But Michelle would have said something, because I mean I
Speaker 3: spoke to Michelle just before she was going to do
Speaker 3: Big Brother in the UK. This is I would say
Speaker 3: it almost ten years ago now and I remember thinking
Speaker 3: she was so accessible for someone who is so famous,
Speaker 3: that she is just very a very real person while
Speaker 3: still being extraordinarily large on TV.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, well that's it.
Speaker 4: I mean she is a genuine like she's a Jersey
Speaker 4: girl like through and through, like there's no bullshit. She
Speaker 4: genuinely means what she says and does what she means
Speaker 4: or whatever the fuck you say.
Speaker 2: But she sent us.
Speaker 4: All as a video message before we were about to
Speaker 4: go to the crowning and was just like, hey, girls,
Speaker 4: I just want you to know I love you so.
Speaker 2: Much, blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: And so yeah, she's it's been just incredible every step
Speaker 4: of the way and truly, like what you see is
Speaker 4: what you get with Michelle Visage.
Speaker 2: She is an absolute mane, like a real queen.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I remember Re saying that to me one day. He
Speaker 3: was like, I was like, what's it like working with
Speaker 3: Michelle Visage? And he was like, just very real person,
Speaker 3: like you know, and that's so rare in television to
Speaker 3: be like that. Now, I want to quickly ask, because
Speaker 3: you've got to go because you've got to talk to
Speaker 3: everyone in Australia today, But what do you want to
Speaker 3: do with this experience. Is this getting on stage and
Speaker 3: touring Australia, Is it taking a global like do you
Speaker 3: have plans about what you want to do with this crown?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 4: I mean, like I have had that money spent for
Speaker 4: about six months now. In my head, I really want
Speaker 4: to combine my love of filmmaking with Drag. So that's
Speaker 4: the next project I want to work on, kind of
Speaker 4: in a longer term sense is try and get a
Speaker 4: film made.
Speaker 2: And I have some more.
Speaker 4: Drag projects at my sleeve that are specifically to do
Speaker 4: with Melbourne Drag that I guess There'll be more information
Speaker 4: coming on that soon, but rest assured there's going to
Speaker 4: be a lot of silly bits coming and I think
Speaker 4: the focus of the ring will be about putting drag
Speaker 4: on screen.
Speaker 3: What's in your DNA, you know, it's in your Making content,
Speaker 3: Making television and entertaining people is a part of who
Speaker 3: you are.
Speaker 2: That's my dream.
Speaker 4: And also the great thing about TV and video content
Speaker 4: is you can edit it.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's a good point. Did anyone of the other
Speaker 3: previous winners over the other seasons, have they all contacted
Speaker 3: you to say congratulations or any of them not?
Speaker 4: Yes, they have all reached out, which has been lovely,
Speaker 4: Like just this good is so real, It's like very kind,
Speaker 4: very kind ladies.
Speaker 3: Can you give me it behind the scenes secret? Every
Speaker 3: episode of my podcast I have to end with something
Speaker 3: behind the scenes and we'll ask if we're allowed to
Speaker 3: run it.
Speaker 1: But I've got a secret.
Speaker 3: From behind the scenes of filming the series that you
Speaker 3: can share.
Speaker 2: Good secret. Oh my god, I wish I had one
Speaker 2: to hand. What's so like? What's something I haven't said anywhere?
Speaker 2: I mean nothing, I would ever say a secret.
Speaker 3: I wants something exclusive.
Speaker 2: I know. Okay, it's a good one.
Speaker 4: A fuck?
Speaker 2: What is a really good cigret? Actually?
Speaker 3: Do you know what might be good? Can you once
Speaker 3: you've been asked to do the show, do you then
Speaker 3: try and work out who else is going to be
Speaker 3: in this series? Or is it in your contract that
Speaker 3: you're not allowed to try and do that kind of reconnaissance?
Speaker 2: Oh honey.
Speaker 4: The Melbourne drag scene and the drag scene in general
Speaker 4: is so like, like, you know, if they like, we
Speaker 4: would have found that missing flight, you know, Malaysia Air
Speaker 4: one five sixs or whatever in like three seconds. If
Speaker 4: they've been a drag queen going on drag race on
Speaker 4: that flight, because yeah, we knew within I think six days,
Speaker 4: every single calast member. Okay, yeah, you can't not know
Speaker 4: because all the costumers speak. So every costumer that's getting
Speaker 4: contacted for suddenly a giant gig for a girl that's
Speaker 4: suddenly got infinite money to spend. Yeah, who's like yeah,
Speaker 4: So that's it, I think as well. The big secret
Speaker 4: for me was that I was such a messy drag
Speaker 4: queen because I'm a very messy person that they had
Speaker 4: to consistently shoot around the pile of crap that was
Speaker 4: my corner of the room.
Speaker 1: So they ended up having to take all of my
Speaker 1: crap and put it through the pit crew door. And
Speaker 1: so sometimes you'll see me walk through the pit crew
Speaker 1: door to go and get some one of my costumes
Speaker 1: because they've had to hide it all because I'm a messy.
Speaker 3: Slob because it's a mess of crap behind it. Well,
Speaker 3: but can I just say I am in your audience.
Speaker 3: I think as I have been for a very long time.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what you do with all
Speaker 3: of this. I think it's going to be very exciting
Speaker 3: and just enjoy and un revel in the next few
Speaker 3: weeks were coming off the back of a win like this.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Ben, I'm so excited.