1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to a Very Outspoken Christmas. It's that time of 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: year to crank Mariah Carey in the car and begin 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: your Christmas shopping. Our names are Amy Kate and Sophie Torber. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: We're identical triplets and during the festive season, we have 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: an identical opinion. Christmas is the most wonderful time of 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: the year. In this special series, we're discussing all things 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: Christmas for you, Glen Colclow, you Gokland Cocoa, And when 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Santa squeezes fat white ass down that Jimney Day, He's 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: gonna find the jolliest bunch of assholes this side of 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: the nuthouse. Hello and welcome to our first episode of 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: our second series of a Very Outspoken Christmas. We are 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: so excited to kick off our Christmas series. We did 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: have Taylor Swift's Christmas Tree Farm song blaring before. I 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: think the vibes are high. Everyone's really very Christmas Eve. 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm just loving that it's socially acceptable to even play 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: this song at the moment. It is my favorite song. 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: It feels like it's one of those songs that's been 18 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 1: around since childhood. But it's bizarre it's only been out 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: for a few years, and I think that is testament 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: to Taylor Swift. I feel like some of our listeners 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: were very upset that we didn't actually mention Taylor's re 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: release of Red on Monday's episode, and that is because 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: we pre recorded the episode before the album had dropped. 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: And my god, I have just been listening to it NonStop. 25 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: I'm absolutely in love with all too Well again. That 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: ten minute version is an absolute banger. I thought I 27 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: would feel a bit funny about new verses being added, 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: but they are so good. I've also been living for 29 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: all of the memes about Jake Jillenhall. At the moment, 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: I do feel a little bit so for him, but 31 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: they're just hilarious. Taylor's with fans of inundated his comments 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: section all doing little emojis of red scarves or was 33 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: anyone else surprised that they only dated for three months? 34 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: That really shocked me. Yeah, but when you're twenty one, 35 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: that probably feels like a really long relationship, particularly if 36 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: it's someone in the public eye. Have you guys seen 37 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: all this stuff about Jake Jillenhall's sister. How apparently she's 38 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: now being asked multiple times to return Taylor's with scarff 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: and if she still has it, there's this whole hoopler 40 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: about who actually has that scarf. Well, he was pictured 41 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: in Pam Barazzi photos with the scarf on which blew 42 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: my mind. I never knew those photos existed. Yeah, but 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people think that the scarf is a 44 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: euphemism for her virginity, which kind of makes sense. I 45 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: feel it's kind of a bit gross to talk about 46 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: because she hasn't really confirmed or denied whether it is 47 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: a euphemism or not. I didn't think it is, but 48 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: I just thought that was really interesting and there's a 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: lot of emphasis on the word innocence in that song. 50 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: That was my. 51 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: Breakup song, and very embarrassingly, I do recall the day 52 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: after being broken up with, I shared a rather embarrassing 53 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: quote from that song, which the crumpled up piece of babe. Yeah, 54 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: did you actually put that on? 55 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: On Instagram? 56 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: I subsequently removed it a couple of days later, but 57 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: I kept saying these memes about all those tiktoks, and 58 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: people were saying that they almost wanted to be heartbroken 59 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: at that time to enjoy the ten minute version of 60 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: the song. I do feel like that album really does 61 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: take you back to that time and you can still 62 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: enjoy it whilst not being heartbroken. I mean, I'm glad 63 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: that I'm not heartbroken listening to it. We've decided to 64 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: introduce a new Christmas segment this year, which is your 65 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: Christmas Dilemmas. Now, Christmas maybe the best time of the year, however, 66 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: it does have its own special dilemmas that pop up. 67 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: So we thought we were trying and help out and 68 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: answer some of our listener's dilemmas. Now, one that has 69 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: been sent in is should you buy someone that you're 70 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: dating a Christmas present? Now? I have been in this 71 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: situation before, and it's fucking awkward. And we're talking about 72 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: early dating, right, We're not talking about you you're dating 73 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: that for two years. We're saying you've just freshly started dating. Yeah, 74 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: there's no titles. You've sort of only seen each other, 75 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: I say, for a couple of weeks leading into Christmas, 76 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: or even a couple of months. 77 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: I feel like it's a bit unknown. 78 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what do you guys think the goal is? Well, 79 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: I feel like you should only give a gift if 80 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: you are officially an item. I feel like if you've 81 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: had that chat that you're exclusively seeing one another, then 82 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: that's when you can buy a gift. Yeah, because it's 83 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: not like you're actually seeing the person on Christmas Day. 84 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: If you were to catch up with the person, I 85 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: think it would be okay to bring a bottle of 86 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: wine or a box of chocolates. That shows that you care, 87 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: but it's not too over the top. Whereas if you've 88 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: picked out some expensive gift and they give you nothing, 89 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: that would be so awkward. I think it's a bit 90 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: of a power play as well to be the one 91 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: that doesn't give the person a gift, Like if you're 92 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: early on in this relationship, if you're not girlfriend and boyfriend, 93 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: do not get them a gift. Wait, if they get 94 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: you a gift and you feel really bad, you should say, 95 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, I actually left your gift at home. 96 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: I'll have to organize another time to give it to you. No, 97 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: do you know what you do? You have a backup 98 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: gift ready that's returnable and it's not something that's over 99 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: the top. It's not personal. As I said, yes, I 100 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: have done that. Flace got it moved. I actually got 101 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: more money back for the gift, which was great. 102 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: This was quite a personal gift. Actually, it wasn't very 103 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: into it. 104 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: Let's not judge me, all right, It's just we're learning 105 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: from my mistakes, you know. It was really cute. I 106 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: started dating Dale around Christmas time and we didn't give 107 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: gifts because I think we only started dating like maybe 108 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: the tenth of December. But after Christmas he gave me 109 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: this little penguin because I love penguins, and he said, oh, 110 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: I just I just saw it and I just thought 111 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: you'd like it. But actually he'd purposely gone out to 112 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: get it, so was it a Christmas present? It was 113 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: kind of like, oh I was thinking of you over 114 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: Christmas kind of thing. I'm a brand and I had 115 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: started chatting around the Christmas period and he's like, oh, yeah, 116 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: expect one of those little blue Tiffany's boxes under the 117 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: tree next year. 118 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I've never received one. 119 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: No, to be fair, he bought you like an eight 120 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: hundred dollars diamond necklace like Sammy Robins. If that was 121 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: better than If we're talking about dilemmas with gifts, what 122 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: do you do if one partner wants to spend more? 123 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: Like do you do? You have to pull them in 124 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: line and say, look, I don't have the money to 125 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: spend that. 126 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: I feel like there should be some sort of a discussion. 127 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 2: When you are, you know, you are more. 128 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: Settled in your relationship, just set the expectatorations because you 129 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: do feel like a real asshole if your present doesn't 130 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: match up. Do you know what could be a nice 131 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: idea if you've only just freshly started dating, you've made 132 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: it official, maybe to get them a gift of something 133 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: that you can do together, like an activity that could 134 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: be something nice. Yeah, because then you can pass it 135 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: off if you don't receive a similar thing of value as, oh, 136 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: this is just a fun thing to do together rather 137 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: than a serious gift. 138 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: I'm not sure about the whole card thing. Really, why 139 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: not sending out a holiday card together? I just don't 140 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: know for really quite there yet? 141 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 2: So can I ask you a question? 142 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 143 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: Where are we? 144 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: Huh? 145 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: Where is this relationship going? 146 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: Let's do the card. 147 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift is so synonymous with Christmas that she has 148 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: her own festive spin off holiday called Swiftness. The Super 149 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: Talented eleven time Grammy Award winner has Christmas in her blood. 150 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: Growing up on a Christmas tree farm, Taylor opened up 151 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: about that experience on her first original Christmas song called 152 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: Christmas Tree Farm. Kate, can you tell us more about 153 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: the song? Well, Taylor wrote the song on the first 154 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: of December twenty nineteen, after being inspired by a Christmas vacation, 155 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: and she ended up releasing the song five days later, 156 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: which took everyone by surprise because they didn't even know 157 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: that this had been in the works. And she explained 158 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: that she didn't actually want to wait until next Christmas 159 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: to release it because it was so far away, so 160 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: she wanted to surprise everyone and I'm so glad she 161 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: did because the song is just the best now. After 162 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: the song was released, Taylor made a tweet where she 163 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: joked about the origins of the song, and she wrote, 164 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: I actually did grow up on a Christmas tree farm, 165 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: in a gingerbread house, deep within the yummy gummy gum 166 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: drop forest, where funnily enough, this song is their national panthem. 167 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: So obviously, while the bit about the gum drop forest 168 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: was a joke, she wasn't kidding about actually growing up 169 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: on a Christmas tree farm though. So before moving to 170 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: Nashville at fourteen to pursue her music career, Taylor actually 171 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: grew up in Pennsylvania and this is where the Christmas 172 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: tree farm was so fun enough, her dad, Scott bought 173 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: it as a bit of a hobby. So he was 174 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: a stockbroker, but in his spare time he maintained the farm. 175 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: So the Christmas tree farm was pretty massive. It spread 176 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: across eleven acres and according to Taylor, every family member 177 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: had a job. So Taylor said her dad would get 178 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: up really early to work on the farm before he 179 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: would go into his job. And apparently Taylor's job was 180 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: picking the praying mantis pods off the tree so they 181 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't hatch inside people's houses. Now, that seems like a 182 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: very important job, because there's nothing worse than having a 183 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: tree filled with bugs when you bring a home. I 184 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: would have thought her job would be grading the Christmas trees, 185 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: you know how we've had that joke about what the 186 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: gold standard trees? What the silver standard? I feel like 187 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: Taylor would be good at that, putting the price tag 188 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: on the trees. Yeah. Well, it's really interesting because in 189 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: her film clip you do get a glimpse of what 190 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: life was like living on a Christmas tree farm. We 191 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: didn't see them grading the trees However, the music video 192 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: did feature a lot of home videos, so, y, can 193 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: you tell us more about this? Well, they really reminded 194 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: me of our own home videos because we were also 195 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: born in nineteen eighty nine, and they've got that kind 196 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: of fuzzy, grainy video footage that all the YouTubers are 197 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: trying to capture at the moment. So the vision shows 198 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: inside taylor Swiss family home, and of course they had 199 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: a real Christmas tree, and it really reminded me of 200 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: our family tree because it had all of the old 201 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: school decorations on it, you know, the crappy homemade stuff, 202 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: the school decorations you bring home. And I totally think 203 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: we'd be best friends because she also had one of 204 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: those very nineties red Christmas stockings that I feel like 205 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: every child grew up with and we still have ours 206 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: now that we use every Christmas Eve. So we'd be 207 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: best friends because we all had crappy homemade Christmas decorations. 208 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. There's also a lot of vision 209 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: of Taylor playing in the snow and sledding, and it 210 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: just looks so magical. It makes me very jealous that 211 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: we don't have a winter Christmas here. I really did 212 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: enjoy also the appearance that FC or father Christmas made 213 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: at her family home. I'm assuming it's her dad, and 214 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: Taylor's sitting on his knee telling him what she once 215 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: for Christmas. There was also a really sweet moment where 216 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: she opens up a Christmas present which ends up being 217 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: a guitar, and I feel like it's one of those 218 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: like iconic moments where you're like, oh, this is how 219 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: she became who she was. I also want to know 220 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: because growing up, I thought that everyone's parent filmed the 221 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: Christmas present opening, and obviously Taylor's family did that, but 222 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: I want to know in our Facebook community, did your 223 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: parents or do your parents film your opening Christmas presents? 224 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: Because it was almost the most annoying thing, like you'd 225 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: waited all night to go downstairs to open your present, 226 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: and then dad would have to set up the video 227 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: camera and it seemed to take forever. 228 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what he was doing. 229 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: I feel like we should watch some of those back 230 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: in the lead up to Christmas, because there's nothing better 231 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: than reliving your family Christmases. However, I do remember a 232 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: while ago watching one when we were about seven years old, 233 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: and we kept saying wacky do everything? Did anyone else 234 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: used to say that? I feel like Taylor Swift would 235 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: have been saying that in front of her Christmas tree. Well, 236 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: I really feel like Taylor's love for Christmas comes through 237 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: in this Yar music video, and she herself said that 238 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: this love of Christmas does come from growing up on 239 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: the Christmas tree farm, and she said, I really love Christmas. 240 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: I wish it was all year round, just for the 241 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: feeling that everybody has. Everybody's buying gifts for each other, 242 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: and there's a sort of feeling about it. But I 243 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: think that the fact that I love it so much 244 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: is probably because they grew up in a Christmas tree farm. 245 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: I wonder if there's anyone out there that has a 246 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: Christmas tree farm that in fact hates Christmas, because I 247 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: always thought it would be a stressful time for them. 248 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: They'd be working a lot. But I suppose this was 249 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: a bit of a hobby farm. I definitely think it 250 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: could go either way, that you either really love Christmas 251 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: or you really hate it. And maybe because it was 252 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: just a hobby, as you said, there was that love 253 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: for Christmas. Yeah. Well, Taylor did say that her friends 254 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: are so sick of her talking about Autumn coming and 255 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: they think that maybe she's an elf because she gets 256 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: so excited about Christmas. Now, I love the fact that 257 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: some sleuths have gone as far to try and find 258 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: the Christmas Tree Farm that Taylor grew up in. Yeah, 259 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: so the Swifties kicked into full force investigation mode after 260 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: the artwork for the Christmas Tree Farm was really so 261 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: for those who haven't seen it, it's a very cute 262 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: picture of Taylor and in the background of the photo 263 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: there's a wooden gate that says pine Ridge Farm. So 264 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: all the Swifties have gone and googled pine Ridge Farm 265 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: and discovered that there are actually quite a few of 266 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: them in Pennsylvania with that name. So there's a wedding 267 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: venue called pine Ridge Farm, which is not the Swift's 268 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: old property, And there's also a home that has been 269 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: owned by the Fowler family for at least three generations, 270 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: so that one is crossed off the list. But funnily enough, 271 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: Taylor did actually visit the Christmas Tree Farm that she 272 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: grew up on in twenty sixteen and surprised the new 273 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: owners of the farm. Can you imagine what that would 274 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: have been like? I think they're even aware that you 275 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: know that she owned it. 276 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,239 Speaker 2: Well, apparently they only found out once. 277 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: They'd bought the place, because the pizza delivery guy was like, oh, yeah, 278 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift us to live it by the Oh my god. 279 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: Can you imagine you'd probably think it was bullshit. So 280 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: what happened was Taylor was doing an interview with Vogue, 281 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 1: and she was back in her hometown because she was 282 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: a maid of honor in her childhood friend Britney's wedding, 283 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: and so they decided to just drop past the farm. 284 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: They hadn't told anyone in advance, and she pulled up 285 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: to the house, literally wound down the window to the 286 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: guy that had just stepped out of the house and 287 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: was like, hey, I used to live here, and he 288 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: looked at her like, oh my god, and was like yeah, 289 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: I know. The worst thing is that these this couple 290 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: were grandparents and their daughter actually owns the house and 291 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: they live in it, and the daughter, of course ran over. 292 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: I suppose she pretended that she was organically there, but 293 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: I'm assuming she got the call and like just sprinted 294 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: to the property. But her two young daughters were away 295 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: on a ski trip at the time, so they missed out. 296 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: So Taylor did a full tour of their house, and 297 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: she went into her old bedroom and recorded a video saying, Oh, 298 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: hi girls, I'm here. I wish you guys were here, 299 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: this is my old room. I would just have been 300 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: absolutely spewing. I don't think you could have any bigger 301 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: regret than going on this ski trip that gave me 302 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: such anxiety. They're thinking of Taylor Swift rocking up to 303 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: my house, and they wanted to go into every single room, 304 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: Like can you imagine if you just had your dirty 305 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: clothes just thrown out, especially a voger there as well, 306 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: There'd be a bit of shame going on. Do you 307 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: think it would be like, say I found out that 308 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift owned the house that I now live in. 309 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: Maybe I'd just constantly be on high alert keeping it clean, 310 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: just in case one time she did drop over. I'm 311 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: disappointed in the real estate agents as if you didn't 312 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: is if they didn't use it as a selling point, 313 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: because if I knew Taylor Swift lived in a house, 314 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I'd be paying more for that house. You 315 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: can have tours for people, I mean, clearly people are 316 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: interested in coming around looking at it. It kind of 317 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: imagine in the Kardashians when they always visit their old houses, 318 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: but they do it in such a condescending way. Oh, 319 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,359 Speaker 1: I can I believe we lived in such a small house, 320 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: like run down old flats and the kids can't believe 321 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: that it was like one room. No. But it's worse 322 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: though when it was Courtney and Scott, because their house 323 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: was actually amazing and their kids were acting like it 324 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: was some dive. Yeah, it's like, where's the movie theater. 325 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: I do love the fact that the pine trees that 326 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: Taylor and her family planted when they were living there 327 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: and now these massive trees, and they've still got other 328 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: little touches. So there's a split rail fence that Taylor's 329 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: parents built still standing there. It's really cute because Taylor's dad, Scott, 330 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: actually bought and lived on the property before he met 331 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: Taylor's mum Andrea, and for their first date, she came 332 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: to a party that he hosted at the farmhouse, so 333 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: it does seem like a really sentimental place for the 334 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: whole family. I'm gonna throw it out there. I wonder 335 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: if Taylor was driving by to try and buy back 336 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: the Christmas Tree farm, because if you had that much money, 337 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't you think I want my old house. I want 338 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: this Christmas tree farm. We always talk about the fact 339 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: that we would buy our grandma and Grandpa's old place 340 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: if we were somehow to win the lottery or something, 341 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: and we'd restore it to exactly as it was. It 342 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: really seems like Taylor loves surprising people at Christmas, because 343 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: not only has she surprised the people that own her 344 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: Christmas tree farm, but she loves surprising her fans so 345 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: much so that the word swiftness has become a thing. Amy, 346 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: can you please exp playing to those who have never 347 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: heard of swiftness what it is? Well, as the name suggests, 348 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: Swiftness is a mashup of swift and Christmas. And it 349 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: was actually Taylor's fans that came up with the holiday 350 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: name in twenty fourteen, and it was when Taylor began 351 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: sending her biggest Tumbler fans early Christmas presents. So it 352 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: all started when fans noticed an anonymous poster leaving a 353 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: single Santa emoji on their posts. So this anonymous poster 354 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: was none other than Taylor herself, and suddenly large packages 355 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: started showing up on these lucky fans doorsteps. Sorry to 356 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: buy in here, Amy, but it just cracks me up 357 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: that she leaves these Santa emojis on people's posts. 358 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: Do you reckon? 359 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: She started the whole red scarf thing on Jake Jillen. 360 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: She just has these fake names and starts, well, everyone 361 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: was leaving the snake emoji on hers. I think this 362 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: is a thing that people do. So just back to Swiftness. Understandably, 363 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: when these Christmas gifts started rocking up on the Swifties doorsteps, 364 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: they started filming their reactions to the gifts, and after 365 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: the videos were created, Swiftness went viral. These videos are 366 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: hilarious because there's so much screaming and crying involved, and 367 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: to be fair, I would be reacting in the exact 368 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: same way. So one girl shared her reaction video to 369 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: Instagram with this incredible caption. She wrote, screaming, crying, perfect storm. 370 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: This was my face when Taylor Swift gave me these 371 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: incredible things. What a caption, Absolutely Bay, it was amazing. 372 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: I love that I did. Also like that Taylor got 373 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: in on the fund, so she released her own YouTube 374 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: video on her channel for Swiftness, which now has over 375 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: nineteen million views. So in the video, Taylor shows herself 376 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: personally gift wrapping all the presents, and god, she does 377 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: a good job. They're very nicely wrapped. And I love 378 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: the addition of Meredith and Olivia her cats because they're 379 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: just sitting on the wrapping paper like any other normal cat. 380 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: The probably cat for over the people's gifts, which I'm 381 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: sure would excite them even more she did. I remember 382 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: she said in one of her videos, like, Oh, I'm 383 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: so sorry, there's probably fur in this. Does anybody else 384 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: get emotional when they watch those videos, because Sophie said that, 385 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of funny that they love and 386 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: they cry and everything, But I actually get super emotional 387 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: watching some of those videos because it's just so cute Taylor. Yeah, 388 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: like her sitting there wrapping it, and you just know 389 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: how much it would mean to those people to receive 390 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: the gift, But you also feel like it means a 391 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: lot to Taylor because you feel as though Taylor genuinely 392 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: cares for her fans. Well. She refers to all of 393 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: them by name in the videos, and she definitely seems 394 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: to know a lot about them. And this is where 395 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: the term taylurking came up. Because it's quite clear that 396 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: she's an avid viewer of some of these fans Tumbler 397 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: accounts because when she sends the gifts over, each present 398 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: in the box has a note attached to it that's 399 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: handwritten and kind of points out different things that she's 400 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: noticed about this person. So, for example, one of the 401 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: videos I watched, this girl was Jewish, so Taylor sent 402 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: her a happy Hunnaker card, which she just started crying about. 403 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: Her parents were so impressed that Taylor had picked that up. 404 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: And this girl was also going on a trip after Christmas, 405 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: so Taylor had hand picked all these gifts for the trips. 406 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: So she's like, I think you'd look amazing in these, 407 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: and gave her like ray band sunglasses, and then there 408 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: was a toiletry bag and a slip to wear over 409 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: her bathers, and just such thoughtful things that I could 410 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: imagine you would just savor everything forever. It was funny 411 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: because the girl's dad was in like he was sort 412 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: of off camera, but she kept passing him bits of 413 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: like ribbon, like oh keep this and oh my god, 414 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: keep trapping paper. Can you imagine our daddy like not 415 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: even realize the gravity of it as well, as the present. 416 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 1: She also wrote personalized cards, so one of Taylor's fans 417 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: called Hailey, shared a photo of her Christmas card from Taylor, 418 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: which read, Hailey, o Hey, so here's an important thing 419 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: I've learnt recently. The more you laugh, the happier you are, 420 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: even in the midst of pressure and stress and jet 421 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: lag and chaos. If I can laugh, I know it's 422 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: going to be okay. Want to know something, You can 423 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: always make me laugh. Thank you for that, for your 424 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 1: sassy posts and off the wall videos, and for not 425 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: taking me or yourself too seriously. I got you some 426 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: presents that reminded me of you while globe trotting because 427 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: every day I'm hustling and bought you early Christmas gifts. Evidently, 428 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: hopefully I'll see you soon, but I'll see you a 429 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: tumblet like tonight, Love Taylor. All I could think of 430 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: when reading this letter was just what a thoughtful girlfriend 431 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: she must be. I don't know if I'm really emotional 432 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: or something, but I felt like crying reading that because 433 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: it was handwritten. Her handwriting is just so Taylor, like 434 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: you can tell she's written all of it and just 435 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: to kind of make someone feel so special. To point 436 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: out specific things that they've done or said. You would 437 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: feel so seen from that car. Yeah, I must say 438 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: I fe'thing hormonal because even hearing about it, I feel like, oh, 439 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: that's so sweet. Gosh. Well, the thing is, it's not 440 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: only the letters that were really personalized. The gifts, as 441 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: I mentioned before, were totally personalized, and they were also 442 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: from places all over the world. So there was things 443 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: like there was a gift from Japan. So this Hayley 444 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: girl ended up getting a tea set from Japan, and 445 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: Taylor of course accompanied it with a handwritten note that said, 446 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: from Tokyo with love, I thought of you when I 447 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: saw this in Japan, because you can drink tea using 448 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: this or whatever else you feel like drinking lol. Hashtag 449 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: never forget. So there's another personal joke that I'm not 450 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: sure what it's about, but something obviously from Tumblr. Can 451 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: you imagine getting this like thinking, oh my god, when 452 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift was in Japan, she actually thought of me 453 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: and got this gift. It blows my mind that she 454 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: actually goes and looks at fans Instagram accounts or like 455 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: fan accounts that they make up for it. It makes 456 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: me think maybe I've got to join Tumblr and create 457 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: a Taylor Swift fan account. I'm sure she's not on 458 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: Tumblr anymore. 459 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just do it on Instagram. 460 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: I think you're a little bit late to the Tumblr party. 461 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: I thought Tumblr was canceled in twenty fourteen, but apparently 462 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: it was still a thing. Man. Let's be honest, A 463 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: lot of people are probably thinking this listening, like, how much, say, 464 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: does Taylor Swift having this or does she hire people 465 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: to go and look on Tumblr and find her biggest fans? 466 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: Or is this all just a popist I know it's 467 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: not because I'm as Swifty, but people would be thinking 468 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: that cynical people. Well, it is obviously an incredible way 469 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: to connect with your fans and show what a nice 470 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: person you are. But after watching so many of these 471 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: Swift miss videos, it's pretty clear to me that these 472 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: are genuinely good deeds that Taylor Swift is performing, and 473 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: it's clear that she wanted to give back to the 474 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: people that really support her the most, because she does 475 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: pick out her biggest fans, and this isn't the first 476 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: nice thing she's done for her fans. She's always including 477 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: her fans. So when she released nineteen eighty nine, she 478 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: invited eighty nine of her biggest fans to an album 479 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: listening party and the fans got treated to homemade cookies 480 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: and brownies from Taylor Swift. There was another time where 481 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: she paid off a fans student loan, so she gave 482 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: the fan oney nine hundred and eighty nine dollars so 483 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: in homage to nineteen eighty nine, and she accompanied the 484 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: check with a personalized watercolor painting that she did herself 485 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: and a. 486 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 2: Handwritten note, I wonder if the painting was any good? 487 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: If it was a bit all I was thinking. I 488 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: wanted to imagine if her brownie didn't taste that good, 489 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: like if you're at the light broke care Well. There's 490 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: also another touching thing that Taylor did back in twenty 491 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: and thirteen. So there was a high school student called 492 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: Kevin who had lakemia, and he invited Taylor to his 493 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: prom and she actually couldn't make it, but instead she 494 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: took him as her date to the twenty thirteen AMA Awards. 495 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: Could she get any nicer? Like? Seriously? I was actually 496 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: listening to an entrepreneurial podcast by Gary Vannerchuks known as 497 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: Gary Vee, and he was talking about the Taylor Swift 498 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: effect and her publicity campaigns, and he was basically saying, 499 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: what Taylor Swift does with swiftness and these other good 500 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: deeds she's done is the best type of pr you 501 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: can do. Because she doesn't go out and tell different 502 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: media companies about what she's done. These people are so 503 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: in awe of her that they're going to film it 504 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: and put it out themselves and create good publicity. It's 505 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: like when she rocked up at a fan's wedding and 506 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: was their wedding singer. She didn't film any of it. 507 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: Everybody just put it out. 508 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: And it comes across as so much more genuine. 509 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: Look, I just want to put it out there. If 510 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: Taylor is taylur king that, you know recent Eylan looking 511 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: for a wedding singer, if she'd like to do a 512 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: good deep Yeah, she might be ad to seeing you 513 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: belong with me, even though it is a pretty unconventional 514 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: wedding song that you want to walk down to Taylor, 515 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: it's twenty first of January twenty twenty three, you know, 516 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: it's more than a year away. Market and Helen, that 517 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: is a lot of the stuff I went shopping and 518 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: got yesterday for presents, and that's Meredith, You're sitting on 519 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: them and lighting the wrapping paper. 520 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: Has really sped up. 521 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: The process and I'm sure that Michelle will really appreciate 522 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: having Hauls. 523 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: In our presence. 524 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: Now, in the lead up to Christmas, we thought what 525 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: better way to help you get in the Christmas spirit 526 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: than share some of our Christmas recommendations, Sophie, can. 527 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: You kick us off? 528 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: Well, my recommendation is new Christmas movie Love Hard, and 529 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: it is currently trending on Netflix at the moment. I 530 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: can definitely see why. So Brandon recommended that we turn 531 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: it on, which was quite surprising, and I was a 532 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: little bit skeptical because in recent years, I feel like 533 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: there's been some really average new Christmas movies out, so 534 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: I usually like to stick to the old faithfuls like 535 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: Lampoon's Christmas Vacation or Christmas with the Cranks. But this 536 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: movie really exceeded my expectations. So it's basically about an 537 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: LA columnist called Natalie who meets someone online and chats 538 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: him for a couple of weeks and decides that she's 539 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: going to fly over to surprise him for Christmas. Now, 540 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: evidently this guy is catfishing her. She rocks up and 541 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: it's this guy living at home with his parents. 542 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: He lives in his basement. 543 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: They paint him as a bit of a loser, and 544 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: it turns out that the hot guy that he's pretending 545 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: to be actually lives in the town. Now, please don't 546 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: say anyone so because I felt you gonna ruin it. 547 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: Ruin it, but basically you've already ruined it for me. 548 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: But basically this movie has been quite controversial because some 549 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: people say that it glamorizes catfishing. I'm so who is 550 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: saying that it was actually pedestrian? 551 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 2: Very negative? 552 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: It is a Christmas movie. Take it for what it is. 553 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: I actually found it so cute, like you know when 554 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: your heart kind of like breaks at certain points and 555 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: it's just then it's so wholesome and lovely. 556 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: It was everything was after in a Christmas movie. 557 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: The thing is, with the whole glamorization of catfish, You've 558 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: got the TV show Catfish to show you the real, 559 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: dark and murky, shitty side of it. So I feel 560 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,239 Speaker 1: like it evens itself about there. And I think what 561 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: it mostly showed was not to be so fickle when 562 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: you are on these apps so amy. What about you? 563 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: What's your Christmas recommendation? My Christmas recommendation is a food. 564 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: It's a Christmas biscuit and it's really hard to pronounce. 565 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: I believe it's fur finanza. It's a German biscuit. It's 566 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: a gingerbread biscuit. And apparently the name means pepper nut. 567 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: What the hell is a pepper nut? Well, it means 568 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: like nuts and a bit of so the recipe has 569 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: a pinch of pepper in it, so that's where the 570 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: pepper comes from. However, the biscuits don't actually have any 571 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: nuts in them, so they're safe for Freese cave if 572 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: you want to have for that. It doesn't sound that 573 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: appetizing a pepper it's literally those gingerbread things and it's 574 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: got like a white icing around it. They are absolutely 575 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: amazing if that is the taste of Christmas for me. 576 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: So they sell them at Coals and Woolworths. Go and 577 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: get them. They taste so delicious. I'm not usually a 578 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: huge fan of gingerbread, but they have this sort of 579 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: like icing sugar around They're amazing. Well, my Christmas recommendation 580 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: is a little bit of a plug. I suppose for 581 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: a Christmas playlist I made up last year for our listeners, 582 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: so it's called a Very Outspoken Christmas. I have put 583 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: together what I think of the best Christmas songs. It's 584 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: a big list of them. I did get some good 585 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: feedback about the song, so if anyone wants to listen 586 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: to it get into the Christmas spirit, maybe put your 587 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: Christmas tree up to it. We will link the Spotify 588 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: playlist in our show notes. Also, if people want to 589 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: add some suggestions, maybe we can start a thread in 590 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: the group and people can put in some songs that 591 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: they'd like added. Yeah, there's some that I'm going to 592 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: delete as well, because I find when you listen to 593 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: a playlist a bit, you see which ones you end 594 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: up skipping, So there might be a few changes from 595 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: last year. Well, I think that was all we've got 596 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: time for for this Very Outspoken Christmas Episode number one. 597 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. I hope it's 598 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: helped you get into the Christmas spirit a little bit. 599 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: And if you have enjoyed the episode, could you please 600 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe on Apple Podcasts and also Spotify 601 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: And leave us arraging and review