WEBVTT - 🙋🏻‍♀️Your IVF and Pregnancy Questions Answered 

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. Join me as we explore parenthood, business, manifestation,

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready? Hello, my loves, and welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Rising Honker Potty. Today we are doing a pregnancy

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<v Speaker 1>Q and A. So I can't believe I haven't done

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<v Speaker 1>like a proper pregnancy episode and I'm like over halfway truly.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone says this, but your second pregnancy is just so

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<v Speaker 1>different to your first, and it just goes so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Like obviously having a toddler and working full time helps

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<v Speaker 1>with that, but I feel like most moms feel that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I did just record the intro for my Trying to

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<v Speaker 1>Conceive Journey episode, So we have kind of like two

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<v Speaker 1>episodes going out. The first one is all about trying

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<v Speaker 1>to conceive and like infertility and some like live audios

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<v Speaker 1>of the whole twelve months of going through infertility. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to open up about that because I

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<v Speaker 1>said this in the episode, but I just don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's spoken about it enough and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people struggle with it and it's very isolating,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I wanted to do a whole episode on that.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're currently in a trying to conceive journey

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<v Speaker 1>or you have friends or family going through it, I

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<v Speaker 1>would suggest listening to that first. It's going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you like a lot more contexts and maybe just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of help you feel a bit more seen and validated

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<v Speaker 1>with how you're feeling. So that episode is there, and

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<v Speaker 1>then this episode is literally a Q and A episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I put a call out on my stories. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>had so many questions, so let's get into it. The

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<v Speaker 1>first question, the biggest thing that you and Tim change

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<v Speaker 1>that you think contributed to falling pregnant, Well, we had

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<v Speaker 1>to go through IVF so our journey is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different. We didn't fall naturally. We also didn't fall

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<v Speaker 1>naturally with IV our first baby. We actually did IUY,

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<v Speaker 1>which WHI is basically a procedure kind of think like

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<v Speaker 1>before IVF. If there's like unexplained in fertility, they will

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<v Speaker 1>recommend you do IUI, which think of like a Turkey

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<v Speaker 1>based star like. Basically, they time your ovulation and your

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<v Speaker 1>period for the exact days, so you do blood tests.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you're taking hormones, sometimes you're not. I did take

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<v Speaker 1>hormones with IV. You know, your partner does a sample

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<v Speaker 1>which is like his sperm and at like the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>time of ovulation. Basically the doctor inseminates you, so think

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<v Speaker 1>like long Turkey based a thing going inside you and

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<v Speaker 1>puts the sperm at the highest point, so it's giving

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<v Speaker 1>you like the greatest chances. So we did IUI and

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<v Speaker 1>got pregnant the very first time. So basically they'll encourage

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<v Speaker 1>you to do IUI four times and then if that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work, you'll go on to IVF. This time, though,

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<v Speaker 1>we couldn't do IUI because we just had issues with

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<v Speaker 1>me having pcos and not ovulating on time, and then

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<v Speaker 1>tim sperm mobility wasn't great, and so we couldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>do IUI. We had to go straight to IVF. And

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<v Speaker 1>so your doctor will like tell you about all that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I highly recommend to see a fertility specialist if

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<v Speaker 1>it has been more than six months, because for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe you're fine, but your partner sperm isn't like

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<v Speaker 1>great quality, and so there's like supplements he can take,

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<v Speaker 1>there's things you can do before going through something like

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<v Speaker 1>IUI or IVF, but it just like really helps to

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<v Speaker 1>know about it. So like nothing changed for us. We

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<v Speaker 1>just did IVF and it worked the first time. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I'll get into that in a second. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So someone said, I'm starting IVS soon. What are some

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<v Speaker 1>tips and how was the experience? Guys? IVF was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fucked. Ah, And I don't mean to scare you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna be very honest. Firstly, like the IVF

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<v Speaker 1>drugs to stimulate you. So basically how IVF works, or

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<v Speaker 1>my understanding of it, is you take hormone drugs to

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<v Speaker 1>stimulate you because you usually produce like one egg, but

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<v Speaker 1>with an IVF cycle, they want you to produce more

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<v Speaker 1>than that, so you take these drugs that will make

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<v Speaker 1>you produce more eggs. So basically think like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the hormones when you get your period and you ovulate,

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<v Speaker 1>and how you feel that on steroids because you're producing,

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<v Speaker 1>like I produce like twenty four eggs, which is wild.

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<v Speaker 1>That's actually not good. The hormones are really crazy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>fine when you're on them. I just had severe side

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<v Speaker 1>effects with bloating and like, yeah, just like didn't feel great.

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<v Speaker 1>But also if you get baby at the end of it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's obviously so worth it. So the yeah, the drugs

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<v Speaker 1>are really harsh. And then our experience was honestly a

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<v Speaker 1>bit fed because so you do an egg retrieval, you

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<v Speaker 1>get so many eggs and you either do like a

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<v Speaker 1>fresh cycle or a frozen cycle. So the fresh cycle

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<v Speaker 1>means straight after them getting the eggs out, they can

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<v Speaker 1>put one back in in the same twenty eight you

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<v Speaker 1>know day cycle. But if you're overstimulated or your hormone

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<v Speaker 1>levels are like too hay wire, they freeze the eggs

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<v Speaker 1>and you do it like the next month if your

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<v Speaker 1>hormones like you So, I got over stimulated with my medication,

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<v Speaker 1>which means like I was so bloated so sick, like

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<v Speaker 1>felt horrible, and then they were like, your hormones are

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<v Speaker 1>too haywire. And I got overstimulated because like my body

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<v Speaker 1>just reacted really well to the ovulation drugs. So our eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>we had eight eggs in the first round and they

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<v Speaker 1>got frozen. So then when I went the next month

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<v Speaker 1>to k get one of the frozen eggs put in,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like tracking all good, and basically like they

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<v Speaker 1>thaw out one of the eggs and then that's what

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<v Speaker 1>gets inseminated. And there is like a percentage where you

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<v Speaker 1>can thaw out an egg and it's not viable, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they will just like thaw out another one. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was on the way to my doctors the IVF clinic, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>and my doctor was like, hey, don't go to the

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<v Speaker 1>IVF clinic, come straight to my office, and I I

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<v Speaker 1>knew something. I just knew something was wrong when he

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<v Speaker 1>said that, and I went to his office and he

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<v Speaker 1>explained to me that basically, the like the IVF clinic

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<v Speaker 1>had stuffed up and they had put the wrong solution

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<v Speaker 1>in our a eggs, and it was the solution that

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<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to put when they're thawing it out and

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<v Speaker 1>they put that solution on when they were freezing them

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<v Speaker 1>and basically killed all eight eggs or eight fertilized embryos,

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<v Speaker 1>which is wild because how we found out was like,

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<v Speaker 1>they took one egg out, they thought it it wasn't viable.

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<v Speaker 1>They did a second, it wasn't viable. They did a third,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't viable. And then they were like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>something's not right here, because that like never happens, And

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<v Speaker 1>they looked into it further and basically confirmed that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a human error. And one of the scientists fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm laughing about it because otherwise I will cry.

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<v Speaker 1>It was obviously devastating because it was so harsh on

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<v Speaker 1>my body and it's just so tough mentally, and then

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<v Speaker 1>to find out that that whole cycle everything was wasted

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<v Speaker 1>because human error was you know, was something so important

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<v Speaker 1>And like I just thought, imagine if I was a

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<v Speaker 1>cancer patient and those were like my last eight eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>or if like you know, Tim had died and those

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<v Speaker 1>were my last eight fertilized eggs of his babies, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to have another one of his babies. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I just could not believe it happened. And obviously we

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<v Speaker 1>would devastated. They did obviously compensate us with like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>refunding us, you know, from our IVF. So technically we

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<v Speaker 1>got our IVF for free and doing the next cycle

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<v Speaker 1>for free, but like surely that's the bare minimum they

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<v Speaker 1>can do. So then we had to do a whole

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<v Speaker 1>other egg retrieval back to back. So, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>these drugs are so harsh on your body, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not usual to do them back to back. So I

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<v Speaker 1>really like hormonally got pretty like stuffed up by it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why, if you guys have been following along

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<v Speaker 1>my journey, I was showing so early, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>literally just because of the IVF and how big my

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<v Speaker 1>ovaries were because they were like overstimulated. But then we

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<v Speaker 1>had our we had a fresh transfer, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting because I posted on social media about the

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<v Speaker 1>trying to conceive journey. I had the second egg retrieval

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<v Speaker 1>and that week my hormone levels were quite heightened and

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<v Speaker 1>I had seventeen eggs taken out and to get a

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<v Speaker 1>fresh transfer, the CUSP is like anything over fifteen to

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen eggs, you have to do a frozen frozen transfer

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<v Speaker 1>and Also, my doctor was retiring the next week, and

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<v Speaker 1>so basically, if he didn't do a fresh transfer, I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to get passed on to another doctor. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, this is like mid December, so it

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<v Speaker 1>would have landed near Christmas time, which they're closed, so

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<v Speaker 1>we would have had to wait like January. I basically,

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<v Speaker 1>so I got out of surgery for my second egg retrieval,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and my doctor was like, oh, look, your

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<v Speaker 1>levels are pretty high. We do get a lot of eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's going to be a fresh transfer,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll call you next week with how many eggs

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<v Speaker 1>you get. That was like a couple of days later,

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<v Speaker 1>I posted our infertility journey on Instagram because that was

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<v Speaker 1>like my like done moment, being like are you fucking kidding?

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<v Speaker 1>Like back to back egg retrievals now having to wait

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<v Speaker 1>till the next year, and I was just exhausted and devastated.

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<v Speaker 1>And it for me, who I share my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>I share my whole life on Instagram and on the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and you know, on YouTube, and I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you're going through something mentally and physically and

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<v Speaker 1>you're having to show up like everything's fine, it just

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<v Speaker 1>was exhausting and I was overdoing it, and so that's

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<v Speaker 1>when I posted about our trying to conceive no joke.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I posted it on like a Friday or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and then no joke. The doctor called on Monday and

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<v Speaker 1>was like, look, your hormones are elevated, like you are

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<v Speaker 1>right on the cast. But if you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>the fresh transfer, we can. I just would not recommend

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<v Speaker 1>it because chances are things won't work and we end

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<v Speaker 1>up getting i'm pretty sure the same amount of eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>like eight eggs, and I was like, we're doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just put one in, like I've got eight, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we did a fresh transfer and it took, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's current baby and my stomach. So it's wild because

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<v Speaker 1>like even even think about that from like a manifesting

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<v Speaker 1>like energy perspective of me, like finally sharing what I

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<v Speaker 1>was going through, just being like, oh, surrendering, like fuck this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm over carrying this, like throwing in the towel vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>And then to find out the next week you can

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<v Speaker 1>do the transfer and then get pregnant, Like I was

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<v Speaker 1>like shocked. Me and Tim were shocked, like because I

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<v Speaker 1>think we just had at that point were like so

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<v Speaker 1>exhausted and so like, this isn't going to happen for us.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was wild. And then the cherry on top

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<v Speaker 1>is when we did the pregnancy test. You guys will

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<v Speaker 1>would have maybe seen this on Instagram. We got a

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<v Speaker 1>dud pregnancy test. So the first pregnancy test I took

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<v Speaker 1>came negative and you should see me in Tim's faces

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<v Speaker 1>and he literally goes I'm like, oh, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>saddest video ever. And then I realized that it was

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<v Speaker 1>dud because like there's this second line that should be

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<v Speaker 1>filled and it wasn't. And the instructions were like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't see this line, test again because it's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>And basically I tested again and Tim wouldn't even be

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<v Speaker 1>in the video with me because he was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not testing it again because he was just like

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<v Speaker 1>so devastated and sad. And then we tested again and

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<v Speaker 1>I videoed it and I was like it was a positive,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he like jumped in the frame that it

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<v Speaker 1>was very, very exciting, but in a nutshell, that's how

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<v Speaker 1>IVF dirty. And I'm not meaning to scare anyone, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was wild. Okay, this is a good question, couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>you touch on newborn essentials. So newborn essentials honestly for

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<v Speaker 1>us because Ivy was like a colliquy baby and she

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<v Speaker 1>vomited all the time, so like like rags, like vomit rags,

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<v Speaker 1>and a sleep suit. Like if you think about how

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<v Speaker 1>cramped the baby is in your stomach and how you're

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<v Speaker 1>moving around all the time, and then you give birth

0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and this baby's like expected to like sleep in its crib,

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<v Speaker 1>not moving all like with so much space. It doesn't

0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:54.000
<v Speaker 1>like it, And so like wrap your baby, wrap them

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<v Speaker 1>so tight or use a sleepsuit, make them so warm,

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<v Speaker 1>and think about like if it is upset. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to hold Ivy on my chest so she could hear

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<v Speaker 1>my heartbeat and just walk around the house, and I

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<v Speaker 1>swear that worked every time. But like just understand they're

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<v Speaker 1>obviously like transitioning from being like warm and snug in

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<v Speaker 1>this beautiful little environment where they're all like tight to

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<v Speaker 1>having their legs and arms everywhere and being go uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>So that, honestly newborn essentials was a sleep suit, wraps

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<v Speaker 1>and bib not bibs, yeah, actually bibs, and like vomit towels,

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<v Speaker 1>because that was my newborn experience honestly, the other stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a nice to have, like obviously you need

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<v Speaker 1>to cut a prem all those sorts of things. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to say when people, especially this is

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<v Speaker 1>a message for first time mums is I know because

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<v Speaker 1>I was the exact same with Ivy's pregnancy. But you

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the prem you focus on the nursery, you

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<v Speaker 1>focus on like the cute little clothes, and look, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it, I've been there. And also a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people focus heavily on the birth. I did hypno birthing,

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<v Speaker 1>which I highly recommend, but honestly, I spent so much

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<v Speaker 1>time focusing on like the things the baby had and

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<v Speaker 1>the birth, and then I had Ivy and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like the biggest shock And what I wish I had

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<v Speaker 1>focused on was not newborn essentials. It was postpartum. So

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<v Speaker 1>when I say postpartum, I'm talking about like food prepping,

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<v Speaker 1>like literally, you guys, if you're a first time mum,

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<v Speaker 1>food prep, lactation snacks for yourself, food prep some like

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<v Speaker 1>slow cookers, some really beautiful nourishing food because like you're honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like so wid when you have a newborn, you

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<v Speaker 1>just can't do anything because they feed and then they

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<v Speaker 1>sleep for thirty minutes, but like you've got to like

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<v Speaker 1>burp them, You've got to like change their nappy, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I swear after you've done the little things, they're

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<v Speaker 1>ready to feed again. It's like wild. So you like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how people like, oh, I didn't even have

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<v Speaker 1>time to shower. I completely get that, Like that can

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<v Speaker 1>be a total reality. So being conscious like and also postpartum,

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<v Speaker 1>like stock up on like comfy outfits, have TV shows, ready,

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<v Speaker 1>have a lactation consultant, ready, read books about postpartum in

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<v Speaker 1>regards to if your baby does have colic, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what sort of problems can come up and how you

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<v Speaker 1>can fix them. Because we were so unprepared for the

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<v Speaker 1>postpartum period and it really took me by surprise and

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<v Speaker 1>it really rocked me. I personally didn't experience postpartum depression,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can totally understand why women would because it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a shock to your system and it's so different,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like no one prepares you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like no one prepares for postpartum. No one even

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<v Speaker 1>talks about it. We're all talking about like what pram

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<v Speaker 1>which by birthing, and it's like birthing is like twelve

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours, twenty seven hours if you're unlucky like me,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have this like six month period that

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<v Speaker 1>is wild. Like even we had a sleep and feed

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<v Speaker 1>routine with Ivy and that was really helpful. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>researching if they're not latching and lactation, et cetera. Do

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<v Speaker 1>that research. Don't just be like, oh, what one sees

0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.840
<v Speaker 1>shy buy, what pramshy buy. Obviously we need to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what I would say two first time moms.

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<v Speaker 1>Next question, any tips on a successful transfer. I honestly

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do any of like the old wives tell of,

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<v Speaker 1>like the chips. Actually I think I did Pineapple. I

0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.320
<v Speaker 1>know it's like you get macas chips or something. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm really big on my trying to conceive

0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:56.280
<v Speaker 1>meditations and pregnancy meditations, and we actually have them in

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<v Speaker 1>the Rise app the exact ones that I was doing

0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.800
<v Speaker 1>our whole journey and still the pregnancy one I do now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just was really locking into the energy of

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<v Speaker 1>like you attract what you are, So it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>was embodying being safe to myself. I was embodying feeling love,

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<v Speaker 1>like anything that I thought the baby would want to feel.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was embodying with our transfer, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing meditations to help me tap into that, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was like, you know, I'm safe with myself.

0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I love myself. My body is a home, my body

0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:40.560
<v Speaker 1>is a sanctuary. Like really embodying those feelings because I

0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.840
<v Speaker 1>truly believe like energy's energy, the baby's going to feel it.

0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:48.560
<v Speaker 1>So I just really wanted them to feel safe and

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, obviously try not to stress, clear your calendar,

0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.160
<v Speaker 1>just feel good in yourself. Like that's what I would recommend.

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<v Speaker 1>What oil are you using on your bump? In an

0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:03.119
<v Speaker 1>ig reel this week you probably would have seen. So

0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:08.360
<v Speaker 1>there's two oils. I'm using. Summer Skin Rejuvenation Oil has

0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.760
<v Speaker 1>been ten out of ten. I do have a code

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:12.560
<v Speaker 1>for that, which I'll put in the discount. And then

0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:16.400
<v Speaker 1>also Pure Mama, which was gifted to me, and that

0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.879
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, it smells so amazing and it feels

0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:25.280
<v Speaker 1>so amazing and it's like actual bump oil. Incredible. Those

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<v Speaker 1>two would be my recommendations. Would you guys go for

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<v Speaker 1>a third down the track, I'm pregnant with the number

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<v Speaker 1>two and it's on my mind. I have always envisioned

0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:44.359
<v Speaker 1>myself with three children. Tim on the other hand, said

0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:47.360
<v Speaker 1>he just wants to He comes from a family of

0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.199
<v Speaker 1>just him and his brother, whereas I come from a

0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:54.640
<v Speaker 1>family of four, and I just loved having so many siblings,

0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:58.479
<v Speaker 1>and I just always wanted a sister. And so if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys don't know, the gender is a baby girl.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just so excited for me and Ivy. Yeah,

0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the girls. And Ivy literally said the whole pregnancy, it's

0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:13.040
<v Speaker 1>a baby sister. I want a baby sister, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I should have believed her. I actually did think for

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<v Speaker 1>the whole pregnancy it was a girl. Before the pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was doing like my meditations to the rise app,

0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I did see a boy. Like I fully I thought

0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:28.040
<v Speaker 1>it was a boy. And then as soon as I

0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:32.160
<v Speaker 1>got pregnant, I literally I like thought to myself, oh

0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:34.160
<v Speaker 1>my god, it's a girl. I know it's a girl.

0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I know like Tim would love a baby boy. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we were kind of talking about like boys and girls,

0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:41.439
<v Speaker 1>and I was thinking the whole time, I'm like, I

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:45.439
<v Speaker 1>think it's a girl, which I also would love a

0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:48.960
<v Speaker 1>baby boy. But I think having Ivy and like having

0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:53.040
<v Speaker 1>a mini you that it's so special, and I'm such

0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.160
<v Speaker 1>a girly girl, like look at me, well you can't

0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 1>see me, but I'm like wearing pink, my head's all curled,

0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and Ivy such a girly girl. I just I love

0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.199
<v Speaker 1>our dynamic. I love I love it so much. Like

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.679
<v Speaker 1>I said, I didn't get a sister, so I'm so

0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:10.439
<v Speaker 1>excited to have a sister for Ivy and to have

0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 1>another girl because they're just, I don't know, they're just

0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.200
<v Speaker 1>the best. But also I would love to have a boy,

0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:19.240
<v Speaker 1>so I would love to have a third child. Tim,

0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, guys, we'll see if we can get

0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:24.399
<v Speaker 1>him across the line. I honestly think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be up to what this baby is like because Ivy

0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:33.560
<v Speaker 1>was a difficult move born, Like obviously love her so much,

0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:38.240
<v Speaker 1>but oh my god, she was so difficult. And obviously

0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Tim is a stay at home dad too, so he

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 1>takes on so much more responsibility. So maybe it's like

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:46.439
<v Speaker 1>with the third child, we have to kind of like

0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:49.040
<v Speaker 1>switch rolls a bit, which I'm totally up for. But

0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:53.440
<v Speaker 1>we will see. But yeah, I could totally go three.

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:56.480
<v Speaker 1>But also let's just let's see how two goes, because

0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like, you never know, I might have

0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:01.040
<v Speaker 1>two and be like I feel completely, I feel good,

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:03.960
<v Speaker 1>or I might be like, oh, I really want a third,

0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 1>but dear me is like, Babe, I don't know if

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I could do three because imagine if we have another

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:15.280
<v Speaker 1>girl and I'm so outnumbered. But also he's like the

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:19.360
<v Speaker 1>best girl dad. So we'll we'll see, we'll see. I'm

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:31.920
<v Speaker 1>just I'm so excited. Okay, So next question, any health issues. Literally,

0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:35.439
<v Speaker 1>as I'm recording this episode, I have just been to

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 1>my doctor and we had our halfway scan and bub

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 1>looks amazing. She's very healthy. But unfortunately, my placenta is

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 1>sitting right on my cervix. So I've never really heard

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 1>of this condition. But basically it's not good because you

0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:01.239
<v Speaker 1>can't like birth the baby because like the placenter's there,

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>if that makes sense. So hopefully as my tummy grows

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and the baby grows, the placenta just like shoots up.

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:13.439
<v Speaker 1>But my placenta has been there the whole time, and

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 1>my doctor was hoping it had moved by the halfway

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 1>point and it hadn't, so we kind of had this

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 1>sit down discussion. I've got to wait until thirty two weeks,

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 1>and at thirty two weeks will know if it's moved

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 1>or not, and if it hasn't moved, it is classed

0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:36.639
<v Speaker 1>a high risk pregnancy, and he recommends that you go

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:39.680
<v Speaker 1>on bed rest. Like he's like, you'll literally get admitted

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:43.919
<v Speaker 1>into the hospital at thirty two weeks and stay there

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:48.199
<v Speaker 1>for four weeks on bed rest because it's such a

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:51.879
<v Speaker 1>high risk of the placenta rupturing because it's right on

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the cervix, and if the cervix dilates or moves or

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>you go into spontaneous labor, there's such a high risk

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 1>you bleeding out and baby bleeding out, and it's not good.

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:12.199
<v Speaker 1>It's really not good. So I'm like, ah, amazing. Yeah,

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 1>so literally I found out that today was recording, so

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 1>obviously I've got to do my research. I'm going to

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 1>look more into it. I'm going to chat to my doctor.

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Fingers crossed. We get the scan at thirty two weeks

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's fine, but otherwise it's like bed rest, c

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>section sort of vibe, which if that's what it has

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:33.199
<v Speaker 1>to be, like, that's what it has to be. The

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 1>goal is always healthy baby, healthy mum, So you do

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.400
<v Speaker 1>whatever you have to do. It's just not a deal.

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I really, you know, I had a natural birth with Ivy.

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>It was a long berth, it was a natural birth,

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:48.159
<v Speaker 1>and I really kind of pitched myself doing another natural birth.

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think I just need to process it

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>and take it in. But that's currently what's happened. I

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know if anyone has gone through this condition and

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>has like a successful story, maybe DM me. I would

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>love that. If you don't, maybe don't, DM. I'm just

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.439
<v Speaker 1>trying to stay positive, you know, I'll be locking in

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 1>my meditations and stuff. But yeah, not what we foresaw,

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:16.439
<v Speaker 1>but also got to do what you gotta do. And

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably just gonna chill out a bit more from

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:23.120
<v Speaker 1>now on, which it's fine, it's you know, it's perfect.

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.399
<v Speaker 1>But I think the part that stresses me out is

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:28.359
<v Speaker 1>he's like at thirty two weeks if it's not good,

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 1>like you'll have to get admitted to the hospital, and

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:34.160
<v Speaker 1>that's like ten weeks away, and it's like we haven't

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 1>done the nursery. I haven't even really wrapped up or

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>like thought about maternity leave. Like there's so many things

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.439
<v Speaker 1>that we haven't done, even in the house and stuff

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:47.359
<v Speaker 1>and that stresses me out, the almost planning aspect of

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>like ten weeks left, where it's like in reality it

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>should be eighteen weeks left. If that makes sense. So

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a curple. It's fine, we can do it. Can

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>you get both while you're pregnant? Absolutely not. Botox is

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:08.360
<v Speaker 1>a toxin. I would not be getting botox when you're pregnant.

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.120
<v Speaker 1>It's just like you don't drink alcohol when you're pregnant.

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:14.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm really big on those sorts of things.

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>But obviously, guys, you can google this. I'm sure what

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>was your cause for infertility currently in the same boat?

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, if you haven't listened to the Trying

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to Conceive Slash infertility episode, we will link it in

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.479
<v Speaker 1>the show notes. Go listen to that because I really

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:37.400
<v Speaker 1>go deeper on it. Basically, we had with IVY it

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 1>was unexplained infertility, Like we got all the test done.

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.959
<v Speaker 1>Tim's sperm was great, I was great. I had a

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>thyroid issue, but like I had that under control. This

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 1>time I got diagnosed with p SOS, which just makes

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>it like a bit harder because of ovulation, and Tim

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 1>had issues with his sperm with mobility, which can happen,

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 1>especially just as men get older, and definitely we had

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>a bit more issues. That's why we went straight to IVF.

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:07.439
<v Speaker 1>Not IUI with this one. But I just I would encourage, like,

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>if you're going through it, like to see a doctor,

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.399
<v Speaker 1>because it just it helps to know because if it

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 1>is unexplained infertility, it's like okay, good to know you

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 1>can move forward. Or if you can help it, you do,

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever you need to do. How did acupuncture help? So?

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Acupuncture basically uses meridian points to reset the body and

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:32.639
<v Speaker 1>work with the body on a different let's say, like

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 1>a different level. Like it's not conscious, it's almost like

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>subconscious level using your meridian points. It is like an

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>ancient Chinese medicine tradition. And I just love acupuncture. I

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>got acupuncua with IVS, you know, pregnancy and infertility journey

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>with this one and this pregnancy, I also find like

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>if I am like having a shit week, if I'm disheveled,

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>if I feel like crap, I'll literally go to acupuncture

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and I always feel good the next day. Like you

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>can just you can feel it in your body. The

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>thing is, you've got to find a good one because yeah,

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I've just I've heard some interesting stories. So my acupunctreist,

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>she's like this older lady, she's like very traditional, So

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I would really go off recommendations, and you're probably looking

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 1>for someone who's like older, who's like, you know, more traditional. Yeah,

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 1>that's what I would say. But I love acupuncture. I

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>very much do swear by it. Favorite maternity clothing honestly,

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I'd invest in maternity sport tights I got mine from

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 1>LSKD and maternity jeans I got mine from Soon Maternity,

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and then honestly just get stretchy clothes like I love.

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Especially it's a bit warmer now, but like knit dresses,

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm still getting size like medium, and the bump just

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>stretches and fits and I know I can wear it after,

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>so I'm not spending like all this money on maternity clothes.

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, I don't think you have to

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>have maternity clothes. Also, like I'm wearing my maternity jeans

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and I just wear whatever, like T shirt and like

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>my little bump sticking out. But I just I kind

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>of just don't care. It's kind of the vibe. So yeah,

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>that's my that's my vibe on maternity. Any different pregnancy

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>symptoms this time around. Yes, Honestly, this pregnancy has felt

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 1>completely different to Ivy's pregnancy, which is why when I

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>had that intuitive vibe off it's a girl, I was like,

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>but logically that doesn't make sense because I was still

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>craving a syeballs with Ivy. But then otherwise this pregnancy

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>like very carby, sour, chilly, like really different to Ivy's pregnancy.

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I've had so much more energy this pregnancy. I wasn't

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>sick as much, so many things. I was like, oh,

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>it is giving boy pregnancy, but then it's a girl,

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I don't know different. Do you have baby names?

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely already had a girl and boy baby name, so

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>we know what she's called already. Someone asks how did

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Tim cope through the IVF journey. I think men process

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>things differently, and they just they're a lot more logical

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and we're a lot more emotional. And I think because

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, they are the male, they think they kind

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>of have to carry themselves a different way. So Tim

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>was just really good, like he was really positive, like,

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, when we found out that we can do aUI,

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>we had to go straight to IVF he's like, it

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>is what it is, let's just do it, like it's

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>all good. And then you know the same thing with

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>like the failed egg retrieval and like all those sorts

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>of things. Like he definitely sat in the feelings and

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>it was like this is what and like let me

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>cry and let me be sad. But you know he's

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>very different, like he's not emotionless, but he's just like

0:31:56.240 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>very supportive, very like the masculine in it. So yeah,

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>he was amazing through it all. Did you change your

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>diet through IVF. No, I am eating more of a

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>PCs A diet which is highly protein and fats orientated,

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 1>trying to get at least thirty grands of protein in

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>each meal. And then I've always eaten like whole foods,

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>very healthy, So no, not really. What were the symptoms

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>in your early state of pregnancy. I was just really

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>sick in the first trimester. I just felt nauseous, hungover.

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I had to eat all the time, like little meals

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>all the time because I just felt so sick, and

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>you just feel so tired and so drained. Well that's

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>how I felt. But then literally as soon as I

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>turned to eleven weeks, I was feeling good and literally

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 1>felt like a new person, like energy wise, So, yeah,

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>what are you loving most about being pregnant this time round?

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I love being pregnant, Like currently she's kicking, and I like,

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I just love the feeling. It's just so weird. It

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>feels like this little fish inside my stomach. I love

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>my body when I'm pregnant. I never feel so confident.

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I love my stomach getting bigger. I love looking at

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>myself pregnant, like I just I love every aspect obviously

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>when you're sick, not so much first trimester rough, but

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>like the anticipation, the excitement, like you're literally growing life,

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Like how cool is that? Like us as females wild,

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Like from scratch, I'm creating a human, Like what are

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you doing today? Tim, I'm just you know, growing an

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>ear or a liver, you know, Like that is wild.

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>And then like I don't know, pregnancy so beautiful. And

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 1>then like you first hold your baby and you're like

0:33:56.720 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I made this. I do? Who know? I love being pregnant.

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm like, oh, I could so go a

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>third because like I just love being pregnant. I just

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I really enjoy it. I'm one of those.

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's weird or not, but I'm

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 1>one of those people who loves it. Yes, did you

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:20.359
<v Speaker 1>have postnatal depression with Ivy? Like I said previously, I

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>did not, but I definitely struggled bonding with Ivy at

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the start. And I think it's because in reflection, I

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>can kind of see how and I truly believe you

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>take on your energy of the baby. So with Ivy's pregnancy,

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like a machine. I was so creative. I

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 1>did like a pedal and pop collab. I did all

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.359
<v Speaker 1>these things, and I had so much energy, and I

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 1>just was so out there. I was so independent. I

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 1>was so just like which is so funny. It's literally

0:34:55.840 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 1>Ivy's personality. And then I berthed Ivy and struggled in

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.280
<v Speaker 1>the newborn stage. She had colic. It was really hard,

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 1>she didn't sleep. I just felt so out of touch.

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>And I think someone who's like my personality is like

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>type A, a bit of a high achiever. And so

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>when you're going through something where you just feel like

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you're so out of depths where you feel like you're

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 1>not doing well, you can really struggle mentally. And I

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:23.320
<v Speaker 1>feel like I maybe disassociated a bit because I was

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>struggling so much and I didn't really realize how much

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I was struggling, and so I disassociated bit, and I like,

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I went back to work after eight weeks, and I

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:35.240
<v Speaker 1>do regret it because it was kind of a crutch.

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 1>It was me not knowing how to cope as a

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>new mum and not really seeking help and just being like, well,

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I need to go back to work, like I need

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.280
<v Speaker 1>a part of my old identity, and I was really

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 1>chasing that. But then it suffered because I definitely went

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>back to work too early. My milk supply suffered, I

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>had stop breastfeeding, like kind of a chain of events.

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.479
<v Speaker 1>And look, I definitely it is what it is, and

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I have such a beautiful relationship with Ivy now, but

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 1>it really felt interesting at the start, like I struggled

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>with bonding, you know, Like I've seeing other people on

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Instagram about the newborn stage and I honestly just didn't

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:20.240
<v Speaker 1>feel it. I really struggled. But I can see now

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>probably you know why I did. And I obviously am

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>putting things in place, so it's different, like I said,

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 1>really focusing on that postpartum. So yeah, I do hope

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 1>it's different, but also it's gonna be what it's gonna be,

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? Like, if you do

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>go through postnatal depression, if it doesn't look like what

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>other people are doing social media or like the perfect

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>newborn bubble, I think the worst thing you can do

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 1>is shame yourself and guilt yourself. It's great to have

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 1>hindsight and it's great to have reflection, but also like,

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it's your journey and how it looks is perfect for

0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you and your bubb and you can't change that. So

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 1>rather than like regretting it or wanting to change it,

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 1>or like feeling like crap or feeling shame or guilt,

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 1>accept it and being like, you know, what can I

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 1>learn from this? How can I move forward? I think

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the best thing. What would your advice

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>be to someone who's currently experiencing a miscarriage? Oh, when

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Tim and I had our miscarriage, it was literally it's

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>so devastating, especially I'm sure, like you know, for a

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>long time you want what you want to do is

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>be pregnant, have this baby, and then you finally get

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the positive tests and it's so exciting, and then you know,

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>you find out the devastating news, whether it's like through

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:46.319
<v Speaker 1>the doctor, ours was through the doctor of my levels decreasing,

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>or you know, you bleed. It's heartbreaking, it's devastating, or

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 1>you know you go to skin and you don't find

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the heartbeat. I don't know. Nothing can like prepare you

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>for that feeling, like I'm feeling it now. You can

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>even feel like so like so much sadness. So yeah,

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 1>it's so sad, it's so devastating. The only thing you

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 1>can do is like feel into it, like really feel

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>how fucking much this sucks, feel how sad it is

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>and being that and process it because you don't you

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want to try and bypass it. You don't want

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>to try and like get over it because it is.

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a shitty situation. Obviously, it was like so helpful

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:28.439
<v Speaker 1>to have Tim being like so supportive during that time.

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>It was also really helpful for me to like tell

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>people like I told my parents, I told my friends

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>so they could comfort and support me, and like, I

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 1>know you don't want to hear this right now, but

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like take a miscarriage as you can get pregnant,

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 1>like it can happen. It's just it's not. It's not

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 1>if it's just not a right now and it's it's devastating.

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 1>But also what has helped me is I truly do

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:59.799
<v Speaker 1>believe our baby picks when they're coming in and how

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:03.360
<v Speaker 1>they coming in and all the things, and so you know,

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:07.280
<v Speaker 1>even like I feel like this, you know, our first

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 1>egg retrieval that you know, the eggs got killed and whatnot,

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.799
<v Speaker 1>something that helped me process It was like maybe it's

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 1>because we were going to do a fresh transfer and

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I'd get pregnant straight away, and like the baby wouldn't

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>have its birthday. It's star signed like when it was

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>meant to enter this world, and so I don't know.

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 1>It's again, I believe in the universe. I believe in

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:36.479
<v Speaker 1>like life happens for me and surrender and not that

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>life was fucking happening for me when I had a miscarriage.

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 1>But I had to believe in something greater and something

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 1>higher and like, for example, if I didn't experience the

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 1>miscarriage before Ivy, I wouldn't have Ivy, and like I

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't imagine not having her as my daughter. So

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 1>really trusting that it's like there's a bigger plan working

0:39:56.440 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>here surrendering. Yeah, I think that can be very very helpful.

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Are you sleeping well, apps are fucking not lutely No,

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm only just experiencing insomnia, which is so annoying. So

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, dude, it's so early. I'm only halfway through.

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I definitely got insomnia with Ivy's pregnancy later on, but

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.919
<v Speaker 1>what For example, last night, Ivy came into our bed

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>because she's in her big girl bed and she came

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>into our bed at two am, you know, cried, came

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 1>into our bed and I was just wide awake, like

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I got woken up and I was wide awake, and

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 1>then you know, my alarm went off and I was like,

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I don't think i've really you know,

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>when you like kind of think you sleep but you're

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>not sure. Yes, so not sleeping great, but also great

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>advice I got in Ivy's pregnancy was like, if you

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>don't sleep, don't get too worried about it, Like, don't

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 1>get worked up about it, like just try and like

0:40:55.440 --> 0:41:00.359
<v Speaker 1>read or like do some meditations or breathing. Again, it's

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 1>just your body doing its thing and you kind of

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 1>just got to accept it obviously, like try and do

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>what you can like really focus on that night time routine,

0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 1>take your moon milk, all those sorts of things. But yeah,

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>it suck. It's just like a normal thing. Though. Are

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 1>there any supplements you swear by? So I am taking

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>a prenatal supplement, I'm taking a liver supplement. I take

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Creating every single day. Guys. Creating is the most researched supplement,

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's actually so amazing for pregnant women and like

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the pre menopausal. I don't know if I'm saying that right,

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure you know what I mean. Basically like

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>older women when you're not getting a period anymore. It's

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>so good for women and we don't produce as much

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>as males, and so if you supplement with about five

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>grams a day, it's so good for brain health, for

0:41:56.800 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 1>like heart health, gut health, everything. It's not just like

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>a workout supplement that you take to like get strong.

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 1>It can help with muscle building, which is why you

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>know it's more in the fitness industry. But creatine is

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, do your research. Obviously mine has been

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 1>approved by my doctor, and it's just it's I take

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 1>it every single day. I swear by it. Obviously we

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:23.439
<v Speaker 1>have our nd hage creatine, which is pure cretine. I'll

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 1>take greens if I'm kind of just like not getting

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>my veggies in. I still have protein powders every now

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and again. And collagen, Oh my god, collagen. So in

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Ivy's pregnancy, my doctor actually encouraged me to take collagen

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.719
<v Speaker 1>because the baby takes your collagen and when you turn

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty five, you kind of stop producing as much collagen.

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 1>So I was on that shit. And I swear, if

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you guys look at Ivy's hair, she has such luscious

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:55.400
<v Speaker 1>long hair, and obviously, like you know genes, she gets

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>it from me. I have luscious long hair, but I

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 1>swear it's because I smack collagen with her pregnancy, and

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I still to this day smash collagen. And I just

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>think it's like one hundred percent. Like if you're buying

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:11.880
<v Speaker 1>any supplements from NH like collagen and creatine, of course

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 1>use my discount Georgie if you I think it's like

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty percent off. And then a prenatal a liver supplement,

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's it. I'm trying to think if there's anything else,

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and like I'll take a moonmilk too, obviously just for

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 1>magnesium to sleep better too. That's about it. How do

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 1>you deal with seeing everyone fall pregnant? I struggle so

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 1>bad since I'm not feeling pregnant. I love this question again.

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>When you feel jealous or you're feeling emvy, it's a

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 1>great sign. It just means you want that thing. And

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>instead of making that a bad thing, be like acknowledge

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>that other people are getting pregnant, and instead of being like,

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, they're getting pregnant and I'm not. You

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:56.319
<v Speaker 1>don't want to focus on scarcity. You don't want to

0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>focus on lack. You want to focus on, oh my god,

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>people are getting pregnant. That means I can get pregnant,

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? Like really focusing on like, well,

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>if they can do it, I can do it too,

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:10.799
<v Speaker 1>and it's not if it's when, and really changing your

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:13.279
<v Speaker 1>mindset about that, because I do truly believe what you

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 1>focus on expands. So if you're always focusing on why

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you're not getting pregnant, other people are getting pregnant, it's

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 1>so hard. I'm infertile. That's what it's going to expand

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what's going to continue. So you really want to

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>be doing those mindset shifts. What I was feeling into

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, I am so creative. I have birthed businesses,

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I have birthed these creative projects into this world. Like

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I am a female. That is literally what I'm on

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:44.400
<v Speaker 1>this planet to do. So of course I can create

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 1>and birth a baby, like That's what my body is

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 1>meant to do. And again I can't control the timing,

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>but I know I'm a creator when I see other

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 1>people getting pregnant, like amazing, I can get pregnant too.

0:44:56.560 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Like really instilling this beautiful mindset where you're feeling your feelings,

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 1>of course, but you're not getting stuck in the what

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:08.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to focus on. How are you preparing

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Ivy to avoid attachment wounding? Oh, honestly, haven't thought about this.

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be very honest. It's very different with

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Ivy because I went back to work very early, and I,

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:27.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the family, Tim's to stay at home

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 1>dad and I go to work every day. So she

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:32.839
<v Speaker 1>knows I go to work every day, and she has

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.720
<v Speaker 1>an attachment to me, you know, obviously when I'm home,

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:39.239
<v Speaker 1>we you know, attached to the hip. But she's very

0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 1>good with I you know, I get on her eye

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:44.360
<v Speaker 1>level and I look at her and I say, Ivy, baby,

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Bummy's got to go to work. And you know, she's

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:49.360
<v Speaker 1>asked why a couple of times, and I'm like, you know,

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 1>that's why we get to live in this house. Mommy

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:53.440
<v Speaker 1>has to go to work and I earn money and

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 1>then I, you know, pay for things, and it's just

0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>what I have to do. And you know, daddy's at

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>home with you, and you know, just literally explaining to her,

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 1>not like an adult would, but just why. And I

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 1>know it's like not you know, she'll kind of find

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:11.240
<v Speaker 1>out it's not actually normal, but for her it feels normal.

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 1>So it's actually very normal for her to be not

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.720
<v Speaker 1>attached to me. And also I go away from work.

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, she's a very independent baby, so I

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:26.359
<v Speaker 1>honestly don't think will struggle with this. If anything, she's

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>probably got more attachment to Tim. But also Tim because

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:35.040
<v Speaker 1>he's a male, not that he's he's very soft, but

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, he kind of like doesn't have a buyer

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 1>of it, Like he's like, Civy, do you know what

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean? So I don't know, it's very different with

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 1>our family because the dynamics are so different. And also

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 1>when I have the newborn and I'm breastfeeding, like Tim

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:50.840
<v Speaker 1>will still be there the whole time, So I honestly

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 1>think she's going to be fine. Of course, there's going

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to be that transition. She does hate when me and

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:59.319
<v Speaker 1>Tim like kiss and cuddle and like you know, are

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 1>an affect without her, she gets like really upset. So

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I can imagine things are going to come up with

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:08.719
<v Speaker 1>a baby, but we will navigate that when they come up,

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and I will do some more research on that. That's

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>such a great thing that I honestly didn't even think about,

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 1>So thank you so much. Last question, how did you

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 1>stay positive during the IVF cycle? We've just found out

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:25.880
<v Speaker 1>it's our only option. Okay, So how I kind of

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 1>looked at this is in life Again, this is like

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 1>very esoteric going into like my values and my beliefs.

0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 1>But in life, I just don't believe you're meant to

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:42.640
<v Speaker 1>like be born and get everything given to you and

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:46.360
<v Speaker 1>everything be one hundred percent and everything be like rainbows

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and sun shines and then you die like that. It

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense. I believe in like reincarnation. I believe

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you know your soul comes here, and it's for a journey,

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 1>it's for lessons, it's for a learning, it's for a becoming.

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 1>And so when obstacles and challenges come up, like infertility,

0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.880
<v Speaker 1>like having to go through IVF, like having a miscarriage,

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I very much like to see it as this bigger

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:22.880
<v Speaker 1>let's like zoom out and think, Okay, how am I

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.439
<v Speaker 1>going to grow from this? How am I going to learn?

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:28.759
<v Speaker 1>How am I going to show up during this time?

0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Because honestly, the person who I am today, who I'm

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 1>so proud of, she was built. I wasn't like this

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>when I was thirteen or twenty or even twenty five.

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Who you see now? How I show up and how

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I be and what I believe, it's because I have

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:50.880
<v Speaker 1>gone through challenges. It's because I have had obstacles, and

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I have had these you know, negative or not so

0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:58.319
<v Speaker 1>great things come into my life and I navigate with

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:01.560
<v Speaker 1>them and I work through them. So again, anything that

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 1>comes up that is anything like this a challenge, I

0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 1>just think of like, okay, this is something with dealt

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:11.279
<v Speaker 1>and how am I going to show up? How am

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I going to shop for myself? How am I going

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:16.279
<v Speaker 1>to shop for others? How am I going to be supported,

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 1>How am I going to ask for help? How am

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I going to move through this? And never being a victim,

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.879
<v Speaker 1>because as soon as you're in a victim mindset, you're

0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>in a scarcity mindset, and it's just nothing good can

0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:31.400
<v Speaker 1>come from that. Feel the feelings, process the feelings, and

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:33.759
<v Speaker 1>then be like, who do I get to be in

0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 1>this moment? Because that's what you're going to remember. That's

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:40.120
<v Speaker 1>what's really really important. A lot of these challenges are

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:42.920
<v Speaker 1>make or break, like make or break your relationship, make

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:45.799
<v Speaker 1>or break who you are. So instead of being like,

0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 1>oh no, I can't believe this is happening, I'm like,

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 1>all right, this is happening. I'm gonna shop. And that's

0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:54.960
<v Speaker 1>why in my last podcast, I documented my trying to

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 1>conceive journey because I was really I felt like in

0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:01.080
<v Speaker 1>a first trying to conceive journey, I didn't show up

0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the best. Obviously I had to go through it, and

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:06.279
<v Speaker 1>so I really wanted to document the new one, and

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I really am so proud of how I showed up

0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and who I was and doing my meditations and practicing

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:16.279
<v Speaker 1>what I preach. So again that is what helps me

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 1>with IVF. And it's like it's something we had to

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 1>go through. It's something we had to do, and I

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 1>was so adamant that we were getting a baby on

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the other side, so I was like, cool, of course

0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll go through this, like I'll do anything for this baby.

0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:31.120
<v Speaker 1>And that's just how I looked at it, and that's yeah,

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:34.359
<v Speaker 1>that's what helped me. All right, my loves, this has

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 1>gone so long. I am going to love and leave you.

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:40.560
<v Speaker 1>If you have a pregnant friend, are trying to conceive,

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 1>a friends, or just someone you want to share this with,

0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 1>we would appreciate so much. We're an independent body. And also,

0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 1>if you do want to access the pregnancy and the

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to conceive meditations that I've been talking about in

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 1>this episode, I'll put a link in the show notes

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:58.200
<v Speaker 1>you can join rise. We do have a free month

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and they're all in there, literally a motherhood tap and

0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 1>there's also some like great pep talks and meditations around

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:08.280
<v Speaker 1>like if your toddler's having a tantrum, et cetera. Because

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:11.560
<v Speaker 1>it's all about regulating yourself and changing your mindset in

0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the moment. I just I truly believe that. Thank you

0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>so much for listening. I really appreciate it, and I

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:22.799
<v Speaker 1>will chat to you in our next poty Bye.