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Speaker 1: Are you ready? Hello, my loves, and welcome back to
Speaker 1: the Rising Honker Potty. Today we are doing a pregnancy
Speaker 1: Q and A. So I can't believe I haven't done
Speaker 1: like a proper pregnancy episode and I'm like over halfway truly.
Speaker 1: Everyone says this, but your second pregnancy is just so
Speaker 1: different to your first, and it just goes so fast.
Speaker 1: Like obviously having a toddler and working full time helps
Speaker 1: with that, but I feel like most moms feel that way.
Speaker 1: I did just record the intro for my Trying to
Speaker 1: Conceive Journey episode, So we have kind of like two
Speaker 1: episodes going out. The first one is all about trying
Speaker 1: to conceive and like infertility and some like live audios
Speaker 1: of the whole twelve months of going through infertility. And
Speaker 1: I just wanted to open up about that because I
Speaker 1: said this in the episode, but I just don't feel
Speaker 1: like it's spoken about it enough and I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of people struggle with it and it's very isolating,
Speaker 1: and so I wanted to do a whole episode on that.
Speaker 1: So if you're currently in a trying to conceive journey
Speaker 1: or you have friends or family going through it, I
Speaker 1: would suggest listening to that first. It's going to give
Speaker 1: you like a lot more contexts and maybe just kind
Speaker 1: of help you feel a bit more seen and validated
Speaker 1: with how you're feeling. So that episode is there, and
Speaker 1: then this episode is literally a Q and A episode.
Speaker 1: I put a call out on my stories. You guys
Speaker 1: had so many questions, so let's get into it. The
Speaker 1: first question, the biggest thing that you and Tim change
Speaker 1: that you think contributed to falling pregnant, Well, we had
Speaker 1: to go through IVF so our journey is a little
Speaker 1: bit different. We didn't fall naturally. We also didn't fall
Speaker 1: naturally with IV our first baby. We actually did IUY,
Speaker 1: which WHI is basically a procedure kind of think like
Speaker 1: before IVF. If there's like unexplained in fertility, they will
Speaker 1: recommend you do IUI, which think of like a Turkey
Speaker 1: based star like. Basically, they time your ovulation and your
Speaker 1: period for the exact days, so you do blood tests.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're taking hormones, sometimes you're not. I did take
Speaker 1: hormones with IV. You know, your partner does a sample
Speaker 1: which is like his sperm and at like the perfect
Speaker 1: time of ovulation. Basically the doctor inseminates you, so think
Speaker 1: like long Turkey based a thing going inside you and
Speaker 1: puts the sperm at the highest point, so it's giving
Speaker 1: you like the greatest chances. So we did IUI and
Speaker 1: got pregnant the very first time. So basically they'll encourage
Speaker 1: you to do IUI four times and then if that
Speaker 1: doesn't work, you'll go on to IVF. This time, though,
Speaker 1: we couldn't do IUI because we just had issues with
Speaker 1: me having pcos and not ovulating on time, and then
Speaker 1: tim sperm mobility wasn't great, and so we couldn't even
Speaker 1: do IUI. We had to go straight to IVF. And
Speaker 1: so your doctor will like tell you about all that.
Speaker 1: So I highly recommend to see a fertility specialist if
Speaker 1: it has been more than six months, because for instance,
Speaker 1: like maybe you're fine, but your partner sperm isn't like
Speaker 1: great quality, and so there's like supplements he can take,
Speaker 1: there's things you can do before going through something like
Speaker 1: IUI or IVF, but it just like really helps to
Speaker 1: know about it. So like nothing changed for us. We
Speaker 1: just did IVF and it worked the first time. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll get into that in a second. Okay,
Speaker 1: So someone said, I'm starting IVS soon. What are some
Speaker 1: tips and how was the experience? Guys? IVF was kind
Speaker 1: of fucked. Ah, And I don't mean to scare you.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be very honest. Firstly, like the IVF
Speaker 1: drugs to stimulate you. So basically how IVF works, or
Speaker 1: my understanding of it, is you take hormone drugs to
Speaker 1: stimulate you because you usually produce like one egg, but
Speaker 1: with an IVF cycle, they want you to produce more
Speaker 1: than that, so you take these drugs that will make
Speaker 1: you produce more eggs. So basically think like, you know,
Speaker 1: all the hormones when you get your period and you ovulate,
Speaker 1: and how you feel that on steroids because you're producing,
Speaker 1: like I produce like twenty four eggs, which is wild.
Speaker 1: That's actually not good. The hormones are really crazy. It's
Speaker 1: fine when you're on them. I just had severe side
Speaker 1: effects with bloating and like, yeah, just like didn't feel great.
Speaker 1: But also if you get baby at the end of it,
Speaker 1: it's obviously so worth it. So the yeah, the drugs
Speaker 1: are really harsh. And then our experience was honestly a
Speaker 1: bit fed because so you do an egg retrieval, you
Speaker 1: get so many eggs and you either do like a
Speaker 1: fresh cycle or a frozen cycle. So the fresh cycle
Speaker 1: means straight after them getting the eggs out, they can
Speaker 1: put one back in in the same twenty eight you
Speaker 1: know day cycle. But if you're overstimulated or your hormone
Speaker 1: levels are like too hay wire, they freeze the eggs
Speaker 1: and you do it like the next month if your
Speaker 1: hormones like you So, I got over stimulated with my medication,
Speaker 1: which means like I was so bloated so sick, like
Speaker 1: felt horrible, and then they were like, your hormones are
Speaker 1: too haywire. And I got overstimulated because like my body
Speaker 1: just reacted really well to the ovulation drugs. So our eggs,
Speaker 1: we had eight eggs in the first round and they
Speaker 1: got frozen. So then when I went the next month
Speaker 1: to k get one of the frozen eggs put in,
Speaker 1: I was like tracking all good, and basically like they
Speaker 1: thaw out one of the eggs and then that's what
Speaker 1: gets inseminated. And there is like a percentage where you
Speaker 1: can thaw out an egg and it's not viable, and
Speaker 1: so they will just like thaw out another one. And
Speaker 1: I was on the way to my doctors the IVF clinic, sorry,
Speaker 1: and my doctor was like, hey, don't go to the
Speaker 1: IVF clinic, come straight to my office, and I I
Speaker 1: knew something. I just knew something was wrong when he
Speaker 1: said that, and I went to his office and he
Speaker 1: explained to me that basically, the like the IVF clinic
Speaker 1: had stuffed up and they had put the wrong solution
Speaker 1: in our a eggs, and it was the solution that
Speaker 1: they're supposed to put when they're thawing it out and
Speaker 1: they put that solution on when they were freezing them
Speaker 1: and basically killed all eight eggs or eight fertilized embryos,
Speaker 1: which is wild because how we found out was like,
Speaker 1: they took one egg out, they thought it it wasn't viable.
Speaker 1: They did a second, it wasn't viable. They did a third,
Speaker 1: it wasn't viable. And then they were like, I think
Speaker 1: something's not right here, because that like never happens, And
Speaker 1: they looked into it further and basically confirmed that it
Speaker 1: was a human error. And one of the scientists fucked up.
Speaker 1: And I'm laughing about it because otherwise I will cry.
Speaker 1: It was obviously devastating because it was so harsh on
Speaker 1: my body and it's just so tough mentally, and then
Speaker 1: to find out that that whole cycle everything was wasted
Speaker 1: because human error was you know, was something so important
Speaker 1: And like I just thought, imagine if I was a
Speaker 1: cancer patient and those were like my last eight eggs,
Speaker 1: or if like you know, Tim had died and those
Speaker 1: were my last eight fertilized eggs of his babies, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to have another one of his babies. Like
Speaker 1: I just could not believe it happened. And obviously we
Speaker 1: would devastated. They did obviously compensate us with like you know,
Speaker 1: refunding us, you know, from our IVF. So technically we
Speaker 1: got our IVF for free and doing the next cycle
Speaker 1: for free, but like surely that's the bare minimum they
Speaker 1: can do. So then we had to do a whole
Speaker 1: other egg retrieval back to back. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: these drugs are so harsh on your body, and it's
Speaker 1: not usual to do them back to back. So I
Speaker 1: really like hormonally got pretty like stuffed up by it.
Speaker 1: And that's why, if you guys have been following along
Speaker 1: my journey, I was showing so early, but it was
Speaker 1: literally just because of the IVF and how big my
Speaker 1: ovaries were because they were like overstimulated. But then we
Speaker 1: had our we had a fresh transfer, and it was
Speaker 1: really interesting because I posted on social media about the
Speaker 1: trying to conceive journey. I had the second egg retrieval
Speaker 1: and that week my hormone levels were quite heightened and
Speaker 1: I had seventeen eggs taken out and to get a
Speaker 1: fresh transfer, the CUSP is like anything over fifteen to
Speaker 1: seventeen eggs, you have to do a frozen frozen transfer
Speaker 1: and Also, my doctor was retiring the next week, and
Speaker 1: so basically, if he didn't do a fresh transfer, I
Speaker 1: was going to get passed on to another doctor. And
Speaker 1: it was like, this is like mid December, so it
Speaker 1: would have landed near Christmas time, which they're closed, so
Speaker 1: we would have had to wait like January. I basically,
Speaker 1: so I got out of surgery for my second egg retrieval,
Speaker 1: you know, and my doctor was like, oh, look, your
Speaker 1: levels are pretty high. We do get a lot of eggs.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be a fresh transfer,
Speaker 1: but we'll call you next week with how many eggs
Speaker 1: you get. That was like a couple of days later,
Speaker 1: I posted our infertility journey on Instagram because that was
Speaker 1: like my like done moment, being like are you fucking kidding?
Speaker 1: Like back to back egg retrievals now having to wait
Speaker 1: till the next year, and I was just exhausted and devastated.
Speaker 1: And it for me, who I share my whole life.
Speaker 1: I share my whole life on Instagram and on the
Speaker 1: podcast and you know, on YouTube, and I love that.
Speaker 1: But when you're going through something mentally and physically and
Speaker 1: you're having to show up like everything's fine, it just
Speaker 1: was exhausting and I was overdoing it, and so that's
Speaker 1: when I posted about our trying to conceive no joke.
Speaker 1: I think I posted it on like a Friday or something,
Speaker 1: and then no joke. The doctor called on Monday and
Speaker 1: was like, look, your hormones are elevated, like you are
Speaker 1: right on the cast. But if you want to do
Speaker 1: the fresh transfer, we can. I just would not recommend
Speaker 1: it because chances are things won't work and we end
Speaker 1: up getting i'm pretty sure the same amount of eggs,
Speaker 1: like eight eggs, and I was like, we're doing it,
Speaker 1: let's just put one in, like I've got eight, and
Speaker 1: so we did a fresh transfer and it took, and
Speaker 1: that's current baby and my stomach. So it's wild because
Speaker 1: like even even think about that from like a manifesting
Speaker 1: like energy perspective of me, like finally sharing what I
Speaker 1: was going through, just being like, oh, surrendering, like fuck this,
Speaker 1: I'm over carrying this, like throwing in the towel vibes.
Speaker 1: And then to find out the next week you can
Speaker 1: do the transfer and then get pregnant, Like I was
Speaker 1: like shocked. Me and Tim were shocked, like because I
Speaker 1: think we just had at that point were like so
Speaker 1: exhausted and so like, this isn't going to happen for us.
Speaker 1: So it was wild. And then the cherry on top
Speaker 1: is when we did the pregnancy test. You guys will
Speaker 1: would have maybe seen this on Instagram. We got a
Speaker 1: dud pregnancy test. So the first pregnancy test I took
Speaker 1: came negative and you should see me in Tim's faces
Speaker 1: and he literally goes I'm like, oh, this is the
Speaker 1: saddest video ever. And then I realized that it was
Speaker 1: dud because like there's this second line that should be
Speaker 1: filled and it wasn't. And the instructions were like, if
Speaker 1: you don't see this line, test again because it's not true.
Speaker 1: And basically I tested again and Tim wouldn't even be
Speaker 1: in the video with me because he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not testing it again because he was just like
Speaker 1: so devastated and sad. And then we tested again and
Speaker 1: I videoed it and I was like it was a positive,
Speaker 1: and then he like jumped in the frame that it
Speaker 1: was very, very exciting, but in a nutshell, that's how
Speaker 1: IVF dirty. And I'm not meaning to scare anyone, but
Speaker 1: it was wild. Okay, this is a good question, couldn't
Speaker 1: you touch on newborn essentials. So newborn essentials honestly for
Speaker 1: us because Ivy was like a colliquy baby and she
Speaker 1: vomited all the time, so like like rags, like vomit rags,
Speaker 1: and a sleep suit. Like if you think about how
Speaker 1: cramped the baby is in your stomach and how you're
Speaker 1: moving around all the time, and then you give birth
Speaker 1: and this baby's like expected to like sleep in its crib,
Speaker 1: not moving all like with so much space. It doesn't
Speaker 1: like it, And so like wrap your baby, wrap them
Speaker 1: so tight or use a sleepsuit, make them so warm,
Speaker 1: and think about like if it is upset. I used
Speaker 1: to hold Ivy on my chest so she could hear
Speaker 1: my heartbeat and just walk around the house, and I
Speaker 1: swear that worked every time. But like just understand they're
Speaker 1: obviously like transitioning from being like warm and snug in
Speaker 1: this beautiful little environment where they're all like tight to
Speaker 1: having their legs and arms everywhere and being go uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: So that, honestly newborn essentials was a sleep suit, wraps
Speaker 1: and bib not bibs, yeah, actually bibs, and like vomit towels,
Speaker 1: because that was my newborn experience honestly, the other stuff,
Speaker 1: it's like a nice to have, like obviously you need
Speaker 1: to cut a prem all those sorts of things. But
Speaker 1: what I want to say when people, especially this is
Speaker 1: a message for first time mums is I know because
Speaker 1: I was the exact same with Ivy's pregnancy. But you
Speaker 1: focus on the prem you focus on the nursery, you
Speaker 1: focus on like the cute little clothes, and look, I
Speaker 1: get it, I've been there. And also a lot of
Speaker 1: people focus heavily on the birth. I did hypno birthing,
Speaker 1: which I highly recommend, but honestly, I spent so much
Speaker 1: time focusing on like the things the baby had and
Speaker 1: the birth, and then I had Ivy and it was
Speaker 1: like the biggest shock And what I wish I had
Speaker 1: focused on was not newborn essentials. It was postpartum. So
Speaker 1: when I say postpartum, I'm talking about like food prepping,
Speaker 1: like literally, you guys, if you're a first time mum,
Speaker 1: food prep, lactation snacks for yourself, food prep some like
Speaker 1: slow cookers, some really beautiful nourishing food because like you're honestly,
Speaker 1: it's like so wid when you have a newborn, you
Speaker 1: just can't do anything because they feed and then they
Speaker 1: sleep for thirty minutes, but like you've got to like
Speaker 1: burp them, You've got to like change their nappy, and
Speaker 1: then I swear after you've done the little things, they're
Speaker 1: ready to feed again. It's like wild. So you like,
Speaker 1: you know how people like, oh, I didn't even have
Speaker 1: time to shower. I completely get that, Like that can
Speaker 1: be a total reality. So being conscious like and also postpartum,
Speaker 1: like stock up on like comfy outfits, have TV shows, ready,
Speaker 1: have a lactation consultant, ready, read books about postpartum in
Speaker 1: regards to if your baby does have colic, you know
Speaker 1: what sort of problems can come up and how you
Speaker 1: can fix them. Because we were so unprepared for the
Speaker 1: postpartum period and it really took me by surprise and
Speaker 1: it really rocked me. I personally didn't experience postpartum depression,
Speaker 1: but I can totally understand why women would because it's
Speaker 1: such a shock to your system and it's so different,
Speaker 1: and I feel like no one prepares you, and I
Speaker 1: feel like no one prepares for postpartum. No one even
Speaker 1: talks about it. We're all talking about like what pram
Speaker 1: which by birthing, and it's like birthing is like twelve
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, twenty seven hours if you're unlucky like me,
Speaker 1: and then you have this like six month period that
Speaker 1: is wild. Like even we had a sleep and feed
Speaker 1: routine with Ivy and that was really helpful. You know,
Speaker 1: researching if they're not latching and lactation, et cetera. Do
Speaker 1: that research. Don't just be like, oh, what one sees
Speaker 1: shy buy, what pramshy buy. Obviously we need to do that,
Speaker 1: But that's what I would say two first time moms.
Speaker 1: Next question, any tips on a successful transfer. I honestly
Speaker 1: didn't do any of like the old wives tell of,
Speaker 1: like the chips. Actually I think I did Pineapple. I
Speaker 1: know it's like you get macas chips or something. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I just I'm really big on my trying to conceive
Speaker 1: meditations and pregnancy meditations, and we actually have them in
Speaker 1: the Rise app the exact ones that I was doing
Speaker 1: our whole journey and still the pregnancy one I do now.
Speaker 1: And I just was really locking into the energy of
Speaker 1: like you attract what you are, So it's like I
Speaker 1: was embodying being safe to myself. I was embodying feeling love,
Speaker 1: like anything that I thought the baby would want to feel.
Speaker 1: That's what I was embodying with our transfer, and I
Speaker 1: was doing meditations to help me tap into that, and
Speaker 1: it was it was like, you know, I'm safe with myself.
Speaker 1: I love myself. My body is a home, my body
Speaker 1: is a sanctuary. Like really embodying those feelings because I
Speaker 1: truly believe like energy's energy, the baby's going to feel it.
Speaker 1: So I just really wanted them to feel safe and
Speaker 1: like you know, obviously try not to stress, clear your calendar,
Speaker 1: just feel good in yourself. Like that's what I would recommend.
Speaker 1: What oil are you using on your bump? In an
Speaker 1: ig reel this week you probably would have seen. So
Speaker 1: there's two oils. I'm using. Summer Skin Rejuvenation Oil has
Speaker 1: been ten out of ten. I do have a code
Speaker 1: for that, which I'll put in the discount. And then
Speaker 1: also Pure Mama, which was gifted to me, and that
Speaker 1: oh my god, it smells so amazing and it feels
Speaker 1: so amazing and it's like actual bump oil. Incredible. Those
Speaker 1: two would be my recommendations. Would you guys go for
Speaker 1: a third down the track, I'm pregnant with the number
Speaker 1: two and it's on my mind. I have always envisioned
Speaker 1: myself with three children. Tim on the other hand, said
Speaker 1: he just wants to He comes from a family of
Speaker 1: just him and his brother, whereas I come from a
Speaker 1: family of four, and I just loved having so many siblings,
Speaker 1: and I just always wanted a sister. And so if
Speaker 1: you guys don't know, the gender is a baby girl.
Speaker 1: And I'm just so excited for me and Ivy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the girls. And Ivy literally said the whole pregnancy, it's
Speaker 1: a baby sister. I want a baby sister, and so
Speaker 1: I should have believed her. I actually did think for
Speaker 1: the whole pregnancy it was a girl. Before the pregnancy,
Speaker 1: when I was doing like my meditations to the rise app,
Speaker 1: I did see a boy. Like I fully I thought
Speaker 1: it was a boy. And then as soon as I
Speaker 1: got pregnant, I literally I like thought to myself, oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's a girl. I know it's a girl.
Speaker 1: I know like Tim would love a baby boy. And
Speaker 1: so we were kind of talking about like boys and girls,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking the whole time, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: think it's a girl, which I also would love a
Speaker 1: baby boy. But I think having Ivy and like having
Speaker 1: a mini you that it's so special, and I'm such
Speaker 1: a girly girl, like look at me, well you can't
Speaker 1: see me, but I'm like wearing pink, my head's all curled,
Speaker 1: and Ivy such a girly girl. I just I love
Speaker 1: our dynamic. I love I love it so much. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I didn't get a sister, so I'm so
Speaker 1: excited to have a sister for Ivy and to have
Speaker 1: another girl because they're just, I don't know, they're just
Speaker 1: the best. But also I would love to have a boy,
Speaker 1: so I would love to have a third child. Tim,
Speaker 1: I don't know, guys, we'll see if we can get
Speaker 1: him across the line. I honestly think it's going to
Speaker 1: be up to what this baby is like because Ivy
Speaker 1: was a difficult move born, Like obviously love her so much,
Speaker 1: but oh my god, she was so difficult. And obviously
Speaker 1: Tim is a stay at home dad too, so he
Speaker 1: takes on so much more responsibility. So maybe it's like
Speaker 1: with the third child, we have to kind of like
Speaker 1: switch rolls a bit, which I'm totally up for. But
Speaker 1: we will see. But yeah, I could totally go three.
Speaker 1: But also let's just let's see how two goes, because
Speaker 1: I just feel like, you never know, I might have
Speaker 1: two and be like I feel completely, I feel good,
Speaker 1: or I might be like, oh, I really want a third,
Speaker 1: but dear me is like, Babe, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I could do three because imagine if we have another
Speaker 1: girl and I'm so outnumbered. But also he's like the
Speaker 1: best girl dad. So we'll we'll see, we'll see. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm so excited. Okay, So next question, any health issues. Literally,
Speaker 1: as I'm recording this episode, I have just been to
Speaker 1: my doctor and we had our halfway scan and bub
Speaker 1: looks amazing. She's very healthy. But unfortunately, my placenta is
Speaker 1: sitting right on my cervix. So I've never really heard
Speaker 1: of this condition. But basically it's not good because you
Speaker 1: can't like birth the baby because like the placenter's there,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. So hopefully as my tummy grows
Speaker 1: and the baby grows, the placenta just like shoots up.
Speaker 1: But my placenta has been there the whole time, and
Speaker 1: my doctor was hoping it had moved by the halfway
Speaker 1: point and it hadn't, so we kind of had this
Speaker 1: sit down discussion. I've got to wait until thirty two weeks,
Speaker 1: and at thirty two weeks will know if it's moved
Speaker 1: or not, and if it hasn't moved, it is classed
Speaker 1: a high risk pregnancy, and he recommends that you go
Speaker 1: on bed rest. Like he's like, you'll literally get admitted
Speaker 1: into the hospital at thirty two weeks and stay there
Speaker 1: for four weeks on bed rest because it's such a
Speaker 1: high risk of the placenta rupturing because it's right on
Speaker 1: the cervix, and if the cervix dilates or moves or
Speaker 1: you go into spontaneous labor, there's such a high risk
Speaker 1: you bleeding out and baby bleeding out, and it's not good.
Speaker 1: It's really not good. So I'm like, ah, amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so literally I found out that today was recording, so
Speaker 1: obviously I've got to do my research. I'm going to
Speaker 1: look more into it. I'm going to chat to my doctor.
Speaker 1: Fingers crossed. We get the scan at thirty two weeks
Speaker 1: and it's fine, but otherwise it's like bed rest, c
Speaker 1: section sort of vibe, which if that's what it has
Speaker 1: to be, like, that's what it has to be. The
Speaker 1: goal is always healthy baby, healthy mum, So you do
Speaker 1: whatever you have to do. It's just not a deal.
Speaker 1: I really, you know, I had a natural birth with Ivy.
Speaker 1: It was a long berth, it was a natural birth,
Speaker 1: and I really kind of pitched myself doing another natural birth.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I just need to process it
Speaker 1: and take it in. But that's currently what's happened. I
Speaker 1: don't know if anyone has gone through this condition and
Speaker 1: has like a successful story, maybe DM me. I would
Speaker 1: love that. If you don't, maybe don't, DM. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to stay positive, you know, I'll be locking in
Speaker 1: my meditations and stuff. But yeah, not what we foresaw,
Speaker 1: but also got to do what you gotta do. And
Speaker 1: I'm probably just gonna chill out a bit more from
Speaker 1: now on, which it's fine, it's you know, it's perfect.
Speaker 1: But I think the part that stresses me out is
Speaker 1: he's like at thirty two weeks if it's not good,
Speaker 1: like you'll have to get admitted to the hospital, and
Speaker 1: that's like ten weeks away, and it's like we haven't
Speaker 1: done the nursery. I haven't even really wrapped up or
Speaker 1: like thought about maternity leave. Like there's so many things
Speaker 1: that we haven't done, even in the house and stuff
Speaker 1: and that stresses me out, the almost planning aspect of
Speaker 1: like ten weeks left, where it's like in reality it
Speaker 1: should be eighteen weeks left. If that makes sense. So
Speaker 1: it's a curple. It's fine, we can do it. Can
Speaker 1: you get both while you're pregnant? Absolutely not. Botox is
Speaker 1: a toxin. I would not be getting botox when you're pregnant.
Speaker 1: It's just like you don't drink alcohol when you're pregnant.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm really big on those sorts of things.
Speaker 1: But obviously, guys, you can google this. I'm sure what
Speaker 1: was your cause for infertility currently in the same boat?
Speaker 1: Like I said, if you haven't listened to the Trying
Speaker 1: to Conceive Slash infertility episode, we will link it in
Speaker 1: the show notes. Go listen to that because I really
Speaker 1: go deeper on it. Basically, we had with IVY it
Speaker 1: was unexplained infertility, Like we got all the test done.
Speaker 1: Tim's sperm was great, I was great. I had a
Speaker 1: thyroid issue, but like I had that under control. This
Speaker 1: time I got diagnosed with p SOS, which just makes
Speaker 1: it like a bit harder because of ovulation, and Tim
Speaker 1: had issues with his sperm with mobility, which can happen,
Speaker 1: especially just as men get older, and definitely we had
Speaker 1: a bit more issues. That's why we went straight to IVF.
Speaker 1: Not IUI with this one. But I just I would encourage, like,
Speaker 1: if you're going through it, like to see a doctor,
Speaker 1: because it just it helps to know because if it
Speaker 1: is unexplained infertility, it's like okay, good to know you
Speaker 1: can move forward. Or if you can help it, you do,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever you need to do. How did acupuncture help? So?
Speaker 1: Acupuncture basically uses meridian points to reset the body and
Speaker 1: work with the body on a different let's say, like
Speaker 1: a different level. Like it's not conscious, it's almost like
Speaker 1: subconscious level using your meridian points. It is like an
Speaker 1: ancient Chinese medicine tradition. And I just love acupuncture. I
Speaker 1: got acupuncua with IVS, you know, pregnancy and infertility journey
Speaker 1: with this one and this pregnancy, I also find like
Speaker 1: if I am like having a shit week, if I'm disheveled,
Speaker 1: if I feel like crap, I'll literally go to acupuncture
Speaker 1: and I always feel good the next day. Like you
Speaker 1: can just you can feel it in your body. The
Speaker 1: thing is, you've got to find a good one because yeah,
Speaker 1: I've just I've heard some interesting stories. So my acupunctreist,
Speaker 1: she's like this older lady, she's like very traditional, So
Speaker 1: I would really go off recommendations, and you're probably looking
Speaker 1: for someone who's like older, who's like, you know, more traditional. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I would say. But I love acupuncture. I
Speaker 1: very much do swear by it. Favorite maternity clothing honestly,
Speaker 1: I'd invest in maternity sport tights I got mine from
Speaker 1: LSKD and maternity jeans I got mine from Soon Maternity,
Speaker 1: and then honestly just get stretchy clothes like I love.
Speaker 1: Especially it's a bit warmer now, but like knit dresses,
Speaker 1: I'm still getting size like medium, and the bump just
Speaker 1: stretches and fits and I know I can wear it after,
Speaker 1: so I'm not spending like all this money on maternity clothes.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I don't think you have to
Speaker 1: have maternity clothes. Also, like I'm wearing my maternity jeans
Speaker 1: and I just wear whatever, like T shirt and like
Speaker 1: my little bump sticking out. But I just I kind
Speaker 1: of just don't care. It's kind of the vibe. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my that's my vibe on maternity. Any different pregnancy
Speaker 1: symptoms this time around. Yes, Honestly, this pregnancy has felt
Speaker 1: completely different to Ivy's pregnancy, which is why when I
Speaker 1: had that intuitive vibe off it's a girl, I was like,
Speaker 1: but logically that doesn't make sense because I was still
Speaker 1: craving a syeballs with Ivy. But then otherwise this pregnancy
Speaker 1: like very carby, sour, chilly, like really different to Ivy's pregnancy.
Speaker 1: I've had so much more energy this pregnancy. I wasn't
Speaker 1: sick as much, so many things. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it is giving boy pregnancy, but then it's a girl,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I don't know different. Do you have baby names?
Speaker 1: Absolutely already had a girl and boy baby name, so
Speaker 1: we know what she's called already. Someone asks how did
Speaker 1: Tim cope through the IVF journey. I think men process
Speaker 1: things differently, and they just they're a lot more logical
Speaker 1: and we're a lot more emotional. And I think because
Speaker 1: you know, they are the male, they think they kind
Speaker 1: of have to carry themselves a different way. So Tim
Speaker 1: was just really good, like he was really positive, like,
Speaker 1: you know, when we found out that we can do aUI,
Speaker 1: we had to go straight to IVF he's like, it
Speaker 1: is what it is, let's just do it, like it's
Speaker 1: all good. And then you know the same thing with
Speaker 1: like the failed egg retrieval and like all those sorts
Speaker 1: of things. Like he definitely sat in the feelings and
Speaker 1: it was like this is what and like let me
Speaker 1: cry and let me be sad. But you know he's
Speaker 1: very different, like he's not emotionless, but he's just like
Speaker 1: very supportive, very like the masculine in it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he was amazing through it all. Did you change your
Speaker 1: diet through IVF. No, I am eating more of a
Speaker 1: PCs A diet which is highly protein and fats orientated,
Speaker 1: trying to get at least thirty grands of protein in
Speaker 1: each meal. And then I've always eaten like whole foods,
Speaker 1: very healthy, So no, not really. What were the symptoms
Speaker 1: in your early state of pregnancy. I was just really
Speaker 1: sick in the first trimester. I just felt nauseous, hungover.
Speaker 1: I had to eat all the time, like little meals
Speaker 1: all the time because I just felt so sick, and
Speaker 1: you just feel so tired and so drained. Well that's
Speaker 1: how I felt. But then literally as soon as I
Speaker 1: turned to eleven weeks, I was feeling good and literally
Speaker 1: felt like a new person, like energy wise, So, yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you loving most about being pregnant this time round?
Speaker 1: I love being pregnant, Like currently she's kicking, and I like,
Speaker 1: I just love the feeling. It's just so weird. It
Speaker 1: feels like this little fish inside my stomach. I love
Speaker 1: my body when I'm pregnant. I never feel so confident.
Speaker 1: I love my stomach getting bigger. I love looking at
Speaker 1: myself pregnant, like I just I love every aspect obviously
Speaker 1: when you're sick, not so much first trimester rough, but
Speaker 1: like the anticipation, the excitement, like you're literally growing life,
Speaker 1: Like how cool is that? Like us as females wild,
Speaker 1: Like from scratch, I'm creating a human, Like what are
Speaker 1: you doing today? Tim, I'm just you know, growing an
Speaker 1: ear or a liver, you know, Like that is wild.
Speaker 1: And then like I don't know, pregnancy so beautiful. And
Speaker 1: then like you first hold your baby and you're like
Speaker 1: I made this. I do? Who know? I love being pregnant.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, oh, I could so go a
Speaker 1: third because like I just love being pregnant. I just
Speaker 1: I yeah, I really enjoy it. I'm one of those.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's weird or not, but I'm
Speaker 1: one of those people who loves it. Yes, did you
Speaker 1: have postnatal depression with Ivy? Like I said previously, I
Speaker 1: did not, but I definitely struggled bonding with Ivy at
Speaker 1: the start. And I think it's because in reflection, I
Speaker 1: can kind of see how and I truly believe you
Speaker 1: take on your energy of the baby. So with Ivy's pregnancy,
Speaker 1: I was like a machine. I was so creative. I
Speaker 1: did like a pedal and pop collab. I did all
Speaker 1: these things, and I had so much energy, and I
Speaker 1: just was so out there. I was so independent. I
Speaker 1: was so just like which is so funny. It's literally
Speaker 1: Ivy's personality. And then I berthed Ivy and struggled in
Speaker 1: the newborn stage. She had colic. It was really hard,
Speaker 1: she didn't sleep. I just felt so out of touch.
Speaker 1: And I think someone who's like my personality is like
Speaker 1: type A, a bit of a high achiever. And so
Speaker 1: when you're going through something where you just feel like
Speaker 1: you're so out of depths where you feel like you're
Speaker 1: not doing well, you can really struggle mentally. And I
Speaker 1: feel like I maybe disassociated a bit because I was
Speaker 1: struggling so much and I didn't really realize how much
Speaker 1: I was struggling, and so I disassociated bit, and I like,
Speaker 1: I went back to work after eight weeks, and I
Speaker 1: do regret it because it was kind of a crutch.
Speaker 1: It was me not knowing how to cope as a
Speaker 1: new mum and not really seeking help and just being like, well,
Speaker 1: I need to go back to work, like I need
Speaker 1: a part of my old identity, and I was really
Speaker 1: chasing that. But then it suffered because I definitely went
Speaker 1: back to work too early. My milk supply suffered, I
Speaker 1: had stop breastfeeding, like kind of a chain of events.
Speaker 1: And look, I definitely it is what it is, and
Speaker 1: I have such a beautiful relationship with Ivy now, but
Speaker 1: it really felt interesting at the start, like I struggled
Speaker 1: with bonding, you know, Like I've seeing other people on
Speaker 1: Instagram about the newborn stage and I honestly just didn't
Speaker 1: feel it. I really struggled. But I can see now
Speaker 1: probably you know why I did. And I obviously am
Speaker 1: putting things in place, so it's different, like I said,
Speaker 1: really focusing on that postpartum. So yeah, I do hope
Speaker 1: it's different, but also it's gonna be what it's gonna be,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, if you do
Speaker 1: go through postnatal depression, if it doesn't look like what
Speaker 1: other people are doing social media or like the perfect
Speaker 1: newborn bubble, I think the worst thing you can do
Speaker 1: is shame yourself and guilt yourself. It's great to have
Speaker 1: hindsight and it's great to have reflection, but also like,
Speaker 1: it's your journey and how it looks is perfect for
Speaker 1: you and your bubb and you can't change that. So
Speaker 1: rather than like regretting it or wanting to change it,
Speaker 1: or like feeling like crap or feeling shame or guilt,
Speaker 1: accept it and being like, you know, what can I
Speaker 1: learn from this? How can I move forward? I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of the best thing. What would your advice
Speaker 1: be to someone who's currently experiencing a miscarriage? Oh, when
Speaker 1: Tim and I had our miscarriage, it was literally it's
Speaker 1: so devastating, especially I'm sure, like you know, for a
Speaker 1: long time you want what you want to do is
Speaker 1: be pregnant, have this baby, and then you finally get
Speaker 1: the positive tests and it's so exciting, and then you know,
Speaker 1: you find out the devastating news, whether it's like through
Speaker 1: the doctor, ours was through the doctor of my levels decreasing,
Speaker 1: or you know, you bleed. It's heartbreaking, it's devastating, or
Speaker 1: you know you go to skin and you don't find
Speaker 1: the heartbeat. I don't know. Nothing can like prepare you
Speaker 1: for that feeling, like I'm feeling it now. You can
Speaker 1: even feel like so like so much sadness. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so sad, it's so devastating. The only thing you
Speaker 1: can do is like feel into it, like really feel
Speaker 1: how fucking much this sucks, feel how sad it is
Speaker 1: and being that and process it because you don't you
Speaker 1: don't want to try and bypass it. You don't want
Speaker 1: to try and like get over it because it is.
Speaker 1: It's a shitty situation. Obviously, it was like so helpful
Speaker 1: to have Tim being like so supportive during that time.
Speaker 1: It was also really helpful for me to like tell
Speaker 1: people like I told my parents, I told my friends
Speaker 1: so they could comfort and support me, and like, I
Speaker 1: know you don't want to hear this right now, but
Speaker 1: it's like take a miscarriage as you can get pregnant,
Speaker 1: like it can happen. It's just it's not. It's not
Speaker 1: if it's just not a right now and it's it's devastating.
Speaker 1: But also what has helped me is I truly do
Speaker 1: believe our baby picks when they're coming in and how
Speaker 1: they coming in and all the things, and so you know,
Speaker 1: even like I feel like this, you know, our first
Speaker 1: egg retrieval that you know, the eggs got killed and whatnot,
Speaker 1: something that helped me process It was like maybe it's
Speaker 1: because we were going to do a fresh transfer and
Speaker 1: I'd get pregnant straight away, and like the baby wouldn't
Speaker 1: have its birthday. It's star signed like when it was
Speaker 1: meant to enter this world, and so I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's again, I believe in the universe. I believe in
Speaker 1: like life happens for me and surrender and not that
Speaker 1: life was fucking happening for me when I had a miscarriage.
Speaker 1: But I had to believe in something greater and something
Speaker 1: higher and like, for example, if I didn't experience the
Speaker 1: miscarriage before Ivy, I wouldn't have Ivy, and like I
Speaker 1: just couldn't imagine not having her as my daughter. So
Speaker 1: really trusting that it's like there's a bigger plan working
Speaker 1: here surrendering. Yeah, I think that can be very very helpful.
Speaker 1: Are you sleeping well, apps are fucking not lutely No,
Speaker 1: I'm only just experiencing insomnia, which is so annoying. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, it's so early. I'm only halfway through.
Speaker 1: I definitely got insomnia with Ivy's pregnancy later on, but
Speaker 1: what For example, last night, Ivy came into our bed
Speaker 1: because she's in her big girl bed and she came
Speaker 1: into our bed at two am, you know, cried, came
Speaker 1: into our bed and I was just wide awake, like
Speaker 1: I got woken up and I was wide awake, and
Speaker 1: then you know, my alarm went off and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't think i've really you know,
Speaker 1: when you like kind of think you sleep but you're
Speaker 1: not sure. Yes, so not sleeping great, but also great
Speaker 1: advice I got in Ivy's pregnancy was like, if you
Speaker 1: don't sleep, don't get too worried about it, Like, don't
Speaker 1: get worked up about it, like just try and like
Speaker 1: read or like do some meditations or breathing. Again, it's
Speaker 1: just your body doing its thing and you kind of
Speaker 1: just got to accept it obviously, like try and do
Speaker 1: what you can like really focus on that night time routine,
Speaker 1: take your moon milk, all those sorts of things. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it suck. It's just like a normal thing. Though. Are
Speaker 1: there any supplements you swear by? So I am taking
Speaker 1: a prenatal supplement, I'm taking a liver supplement. I take
Speaker 1: Creating every single day. Guys. Creating is the most researched supplement,
Speaker 1: and it's actually so amazing for pregnant women and like
Speaker 1: the pre menopausal. I don't know if I'm saying that right,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure you know what I mean. Basically like
Speaker 1: older women when you're not getting a period anymore. It's
Speaker 1: so good for women and we don't produce as much
Speaker 1: as males, and so if you supplement with about five
Speaker 1: grams a day, it's so good for brain health, for
Speaker 1: like heart health, gut health, everything. It's not just like
Speaker 1: a workout supplement that you take to like get strong.
Speaker 1: It can help with muscle building, which is why you
Speaker 1: know it's more in the fitness industry. But creatine is
Speaker 1: I don't know, do your research. Obviously mine has been
Speaker 1: approved by my doctor, and it's just it's I take
Speaker 1: it every single day. I swear by it. Obviously we
Speaker 1: have our nd hage creatine, which is pure cretine. I'll
Speaker 1: take greens if I'm kind of just like not getting
Speaker 1: my veggies in. I still have protein powders every now
Speaker 1: and again. And collagen, Oh my god, collagen. So in
Speaker 1: Ivy's pregnancy, my doctor actually encouraged me to take collagen
Speaker 1: because the baby takes your collagen and when you turn
Speaker 1: twenty five, you kind of stop producing as much collagen.
Speaker 1: So I was on that shit. And I swear, if
Speaker 1: you guys look at Ivy's hair, she has such luscious
Speaker 1: long hair, and obviously, like you know genes, she gets
Speaker 1: it from me. I have luscious long hair, but I
Speaker 1: swear it's because I smack collagen with her pregnancy, and
Speaker 1: I still to this day smash collagen. And I just
Speaker 1: think it's like one hundred percent. Like if you're buying
Speaker 1: any supplements from NH like collagen and creatine, of course
Speaker 1: use my discount Georgie if you I think it's like
Speaker 1: twenty percent off. And then a prenatal a liver supplement,
Speaker 1: and that's it. I'm trying to think if there's anything else,
Speaker 1: and like I'll take a moonmilk too, obviously just for
Speaker 1: magnesium to sleep better too. That's about it. How do
Speaker 1: you deal with seeing everyone fall pregnant? I struggle so
Speaker 1: bad since I'm not feeling pregnant. I love this question again.
Speaker 1: When you feel jealous or you're feeling emvy, it's a
Speaker 1: great sign. It just means you want that thing. And
Speaker 1: instead of making that a bad thing, be like acknowledge
Speaker 1: that other people are getting pregnant, and instead of being like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're getting pregnant and I'm not. You
Speaker 1: don't want to focus on scarcity. You don't want to
Speaker 1: focus on lack. You want to focus on, oh my god,
Speaker 1: people are getting pregnant. That means I can get pregnant,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like really focusing on like, well,
Speaker 1: if they can do it, I can do it too,
Speaker 1: and it's not if it's when, and really changing your
Speaker 1: mindset about that, because I do truly believe what you
Speaker 1: focus on expands. So if you're always focusing on why
Speaker 1: you're not getting pregnant, other people are getting pregnant, it's
Speaker 1: so hard. I'm infertile. That's what it's going to expand
Speaker 1: that's what's going to continue. So you really want to
Speaker 1: be doing those mindset shifts. What I was feeling into
Speaker 1: was like, I am so creative. I have birthed businesses,
Speaker 1: I have birthed these creative projects into this world. Like
Speaker 1: I am a female. That is literally what I'm on
Speaker 1: this planet to do. So of course I can create
Speaker 1: and birth a baby, like That's what my body is
Speaker 1: meant to do. And again I can't control the timing,
Speaker 1: but I know I'm a creator when I see other
Speaker 1: people getting pregnant, like amazing, I can get pregnant too.
Speaker 1: Like really instilling this beautiful mindset where you're feeling your feelings,
Speaker 1: of course, but you're not getting stuck in the what
Speaker 1: you don't want to focus on. How are you preparing
Speaker 1: Ivy to avoid attachment wounding? Oh, honestly, haven't thought about this.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be very honest. It's very different with
Speaker 1: Ivy because I went back to work very early, and I,
Speaker 1: you know, in the family, Tim's to stay at home
Speaker 1: dad and I go to work every day. So she
Speaker 1: knows I go to work every day, and she has
Speaker 1: an attachment to me, you know, obviously when I'm home,
Speaker 1: we you know, attached to the hip. But she's very
Speaker 1: good with I you know, I get on her eye
Speaker 1: level and I look at her and I say, Ivy, baby,
Speaker 1: Bummy's got to go to work. And you know, she's
Speaker 1: asked why a couple of times, and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's why we get to live in this house. Mommy
Speaker 1: has to go to work and I earn money and
Speaker 1: then I, you know, pay for things, and it's just
Speaker 1: what I have to do. And you know, daddy's at
Speaker 1: home with you, and you know, just literally explaining to her,
Speaker 1: not like an adult would, but just why. And I
Speaker 1: know it's like not you know, she'll kind of find
Speaker 1: out it's not actually normal, but for her it feels normal.
Speaker 1: So it's actually very normal for her to be not
Speaker 1: attached to me. And also I go away from work.
Speaker 1: I don't know, she's a very independent baby, so I
Speaker 1: honestly don't think will struggle with this. If anything, she's
Speaker 1: probably got more attachment to Tim. But also Tim because
Speaker 1: he's a male, not that he's he's very soft, but
Speaker 1: you know, he kind of like doesn't have a buyer
Speaker 1: of it, Like he's like, Civy, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? So I don't know, it's very different with
Speaker 1: our family because the dynamics are so different. And also
Speaker 1: when I have the newborn and I'm breastfeeding, like Tim
Speaker 1: will still be there the whole time, So I honestly
Speaker 1: think she's going to be fine. Of course, there's going
Speaker 1: to be that transition. She does hate when me and
Speaker 1: Tim like kiss and cuddle and like you know, are
Speaker 1: an affect without her, she gets like really upset. So
Speaker 1: I can imagine things are going to come up with
Speaker 1: a baby, but we will navigate that when they come up,
Speaker 1: and I will do some more research on that. That's
Speaker 1: such a great thing that I honestly didn't even think about,
Speaker 1: So thank you so much. Last question, how did you
Speaker 1: stay positive during the IVF cycle? We've just found out
Speaker 1: it's our only option. Okay, So how I kind of
Speaker 1: looked at this is in life Again, this is like
Speaker 1: very esoteric going into like my values and my beliefs.
Speaker 1: But in life, I just don't believe you're meant to
Speaker 1: like be born and get everything given to you and
Speaker 1: everything be one hundred percent and everything be like rainbows
Speaker 1: and sun shines and then you die like that. It
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. I believe in like reincarnation. I believe
Speaker 1: you know your soul comes here, and it's for a journey,
Speaker 1: it's for lessons, it's for a learning, it's for a becoming.
Speaker 1: And so when obstacles and challenges come up, like infertility,
Speaker 1: like having to go through IVF, like having a miscarriage,
Speaker 1: I very much like to see it as this bigger
Speaker 1: let's like zoom out and think, Okay, how am I
Speaker 1: going to grow from this? How am I going to learn?
Speaker 1: How am I going to show up during this time?
Speaker 1: Because honestly, the person who I am today, who I'm
Speaker 1: so proud of, she was built. I wasn't like this
Speaker 1: when I was thirteen or twenty or even twenty five.
Speaker 1: Who you see now? How I show up and how
Speaker 1: I be and what I believe, it's because I have
Speaker 1: gone through challenges. It's because I have had obstacles, and
Speaker 1: I have had these you know, negative or not so
Speaker 1: great things come into my life and I navigate with
Speaker 1: them and I work through them. So again, anything that
Speaker 1: comes up that is anything like this a challenge, I
Speaker 1: just think of like, okay, this is something with dealt
Speaker 1: and how am I going to show up? How am
Speaker 1: I going to shop for myself? How am I going
Speaker 1: to shop for others? How am I going to be supported,
Speaker 1: How am I going to ask for help? How am
Speaker 1: I going to move through this? And never being a victim,
Speaker 1: because as soon as you're in a victim mindset, you're
Speaker 1: in a scarcity mindset, and it's just nothing good can
Speaker 1: come from that. Feel the feelings, process the feelings, and
Speaker 1: then be like, who do I get to be in
Speaker 1: this moment? Because that's what you're going to remember. That's
Speaker 1: what's really really important. A lot of these challenges are
Speaker 1: make or break, like make or break your relationship, make
Speaker 1: or break who you are. So instead of being like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I can't believe this is happening, I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, this is happening. I'm gonna shop. And that's
Speaker 1: why in my last podcast, I documented my trying to
Speaker 1: conceive journey because I was really I felt like in
Speaker 1: a first trying to conceive journey, I didn't show up
Speaker 1: the best. Obviously I had to go through it, and
Speaker 1: so I really wanted to document the new one, and
Speaker 1: I really am so proud of how I showed up
Speaker 1: and who I was and doing my meditations and practicing
Speaker 1: what I preach. So again that is what helps me
Speaker 1: with IVF. And it's like it's something we had to
Speaker 1: go through. It's something we had to do, and I
Speaker 1: was so adamant that we were getting a baby on
Speaker 1: the other side, so I was like, cool, of course
Speaker 1: I'll go through this, like I'll do anything for this baby.
Speaker 1: And that's just how I looked at it, and that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what helped me. All right, my loves, this has
Speaker 1: gone so long. I am going to love and leave you.
Speaker 1: If you have a pregnant friend, are trying to conceive,
Speaker 1: a friends, or just someone you want to share this with,
Speaker 1: we would appreciate so much. We're an independent body. And also,
Speaker 1: if you do want to access the pregnancy and the
Speaker 1: trying to conceive meditations that I've been talking about in
Speaker 1: this episode, I'll put a link in the show notes
Speaker 1: you can join rise. We do have a free month
Speaker 1: and they're all in there, literally a motherhood tap and
Speaker 1: there's also some like great pep talks and meditations around
Speaker 1: like if your toddler's having a tantrum, et cetera. Because
Speaker 1: it's all about regulating yourself and changing your mindset in
Speaker 1: the moment. I just I truly believe that. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for listening. I really appreciate it, and I
Speaker 1: will chat to you in our next poty Bye.