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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. Join me as we explore parenthood, business, manifestation,

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Speaker 1: and so much more. It's positive, it's practical, and it's

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Speaker 1: Are you ready? Hello, my loves, and welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Rising Honker Potty. Today we are doing a pregnancy

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Speaker 1: Q and A. So I can't believe I haven't done

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Speaker 1: Everyone says this, but your second pregnancy is just so

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Speaker 1: I did just record the intro for my Trying to

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Speaker 1: Conceive Journey episode, So we have kind of like two

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Speaker 1: of the whole twelve months of going through infertility. And

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to open up about that because I

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Speaker 1: and that stresses me out, the almost planning aspect of

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00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: like ten weeks left, where it's like in reality it

428
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: should be eighteen weeks left. If that makes sense. So

429
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: it's a curple. It's fine, we can do it. Can

430
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: you get both while you're pregnant? Absolutely not. Botox is

431
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: a toxin. I would not be getting botox when you're pregnant.

432
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: It's just like you don't drink alcohol when you're pregnant.

433
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm really big on those sorts of things.

434
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: But obviously, guys, you can google this. I'm sure what

435
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: was your cause for infertility currently in the same boat?

436
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: Like I said, if you haven't listened to the Trying

437
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: to Conceive Slash infertility episode, we will link it in

438
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 1: the show notes. Go listen to that because I really

439
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: go deeper on it. Basically, we had with IVY it

440
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: was unexplained infertility, Like we got all the test done.

441
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 1: Tim's sperm was great, I was great. I had a

442
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: thyroid issue, but like I had that under control. This

443
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: time I got diagnosed with p SOS, which just makes

444
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: it like a bit harder because of ovulation, and Tim

445
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: had issues with his sperm with mobility, which can happen,

446
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: especially just as men get older, and definitely we had

447
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: a bit more issues. That's why we went straight to IVF.

448
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: Not IUI with this one. But I just I would encourage, like,

449
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: if you're going through it, like to see a doctor,

450
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: because it just it helps to know because if it

451
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: is unexplained infertility, it's like okay, good to know you

452
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: can move forward. Or if you can help it, you do,

453
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: you know, whatever you need to do. How did acupuncture help? So?

454
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: Acupuncture basically uses meridian points to reset the body and

455
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: work with the body on a different let's say, like

456
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: a different level. Like it's not conscious, it's almost like

457
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: subconscious level using your meridian points. It is like an

458
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: ancient Chinese medicine tradition. And I just love acupuncture. I

459
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: got acupuncua with IVS, you know, pregnancy and infertility journey

460
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: with this one and this pregnancy, I also find like

461
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: if I am like having a shit week, if I'm disheveled,

462
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: if I feel like crap, I'll literally go to acupuncture

463
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: and I always feel good the next day. Like you

464
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: can just you can feel it in your body. The

465
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: thing is, you've got to find a good one because yeah,

466
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: I've just I've heard some interesting stories. So my acupunctreist,

467
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: she's like this older lady, she's like very traditional, So

468
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: I would really go off recommendations, and you're probably looking

469
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: for someone who's like older, who's like, you know, more traditional. Yeah,

470
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: that's what I would say. But I love acupuncture. I

471
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: very much do swear by it. Favorite maternity clothing honestly,

472
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: I'd invest in maternity sport tights I got mine from

473
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: LSKD and maternity jeans I got mine from Soon Maternity,

474
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: and then honestly just get stretchy clothes like I love.

475
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: Especially it's a bit warmer now, but like knit dresses,

476
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm still getting size like medium, and the bump just

477
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: stretches and fits and I know I can wear it after,

478
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: so I'm not spending like all this money on maternity clothes.

479
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I don't think you have to

480
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: have maternity clothes. Also, like I'm wearing my maternity jeans

481
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: and I just wear whatever, like T shirt and like

482
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: my little bump sticking out. But I just I kind

483
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: of just don't care. It's kind of the vibe. So yeah,

484
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: that's my that's my vibe on maternity. Any different pregnancy

485
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: symptoms this time around. Yes, Honestly, this pregnancy has felt

486
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: completely different to Ivy's pregnancy, which is why when I

487
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: had that intuitive vibe off it's a girl, I was like,

488
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: but logically that doesn't make sense because I was still

489
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: craving a syeballs with Ivy. But then otherwise this pregnancy

490
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: like very carby, sour, chilly, like really different to Ivy's pregnancy.

491
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: I've had so much more energy this pregnancy. I wasn't

492
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: sick as much, so many things. I was like, oh,

493
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: it is giving boy pregnancy, but then it's a girl,

494
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: so yeah, I don't know different. Do you have baby names?

495
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely already had a girl and boy baby name, so

496
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: we know what she's called already. Someone asks how did

497
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: Tim cope through the IVF journey. I think men process

498
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: things differently, and they just they're a lot more logical

499
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: and we're a lot more emotional. And I think because

500
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: you know, they are the male, they think they kind

501
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: of have to carry themselves a different way. So Tim

502
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: was just really good, like he was really positive, like,

503
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, when we found out that we can do aUI,

504
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: we had to go straight to IVF he's like, it

505
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: is what it is, let's just do it, like it's

506
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: all good. And then you know the same thing with

507
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: like the failed egg retrieval and like all those sorts

508
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: of things. Like he definitely sat in the feelings and

509
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: it was like this is what and like let me

510
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: cry and let me be sad. But you know he's

511
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: very different, like he's not emotionless, but he's just like

512
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: very supportive, very like the masculine in it. So yeah,

513
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: he was amazing through it all. Did you change your

514
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: diet through IVF. No, I am eating more of a

515
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: PCs A diet which is highly protein and fats orientated,

516
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: trying to get at least thirty grands of protein in

517
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: each meal. And then I've always eaten like whole foods,

518
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: very healthy, So no, not really. What were the symptoms

519
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: in your early state of pregnancy. I was just really

520
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: sick in the first trimester. I just felt nauseous, hungover.

521
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: I had to eat all the time, like little meals

522
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: all the time because I just felt so sick, and

523
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: you just feel so tired and so drained. Well that's

524
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: how I felt. But then literally as soon as I

525
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: turned to eleven weeks, I was feeling good and literally

526
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: felt like a new person, like energy wise, So, yeah,

527
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: what are you loving most about being pregnant this time round?

528
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:09,239
Speaker 1: I love being pregnant, Like currently she's kicking, and I like,

529
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: I just love the feeling. It's just so weird. It

530
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: feels like this little fish inside my stomach. I love

531
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: my body when I'm pregnant. I never feel so confident.

532
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: I love my stomach getting bigger. I love looking at

533
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: myself pregnant, like I just I love every aspect obviously

534
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: when you're sick, not so much first trimester rough, but

535
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: like the anticipation, the excitement, like you're literally growing life,

536
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: Like how cool is that? Like us as females wild,

537
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: Like from scratch, I'm creating a human, Like what are

538
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: you doing today? Tim, I'm just you know, growing an

539
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: ear or a liver, you know, Like that is wild.

540
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: And then like I don't know, pregnancy so beautiful. And

541
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: then like you first hold your baby and you're like

542
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: I made this. I do? Who know? I love being pregnant.

543
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, oh, I could so go a

544
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: third because like I just love being pregnant. I just

545
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: I yeah, I really enjoy it. I'm one of those.

546
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's weird or not, but I'm

547
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: one of those people who loves it. Yes, did you

548
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: have postnatal depression with Ivy? Like I said previously, I

549
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: did not, but I definitely struggled bonding with Ivy at

550
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: the start. And I think it's because in reflection, I

551
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: can kind of see how and I truly believe you

552
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: take on your energy of the baby. So with Ivy's pregnancy,

553
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: I was like a machine. I was so creative. I

554
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: did like a pedal and pop collab. I did all

555
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: these things, and I had so much energy, and I

556
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: just was so out there. I was so independent. I

557
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: was so just like which is so funny. It's literally

558
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: Ivy's personality. And then I berthed Ivy and struggled in

559
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: the newborn stage. She had colic. It was really hard,

560
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: she didn't sleep. I just felt so out of touch.

561
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: And I think someone who's like my personality is like

562
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: type A, a bit of a high achiever. And so

563
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: when you're going through something where you just feel like

564
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: you're so out of depths where you feel like you're

565
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: not doing well, you can really struggle mentally. And I

566
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: feel like I maybe disassociated a bit because I was

567
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: struggling so much and I didn't really realize how much

568
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: I was struggling, and so I disassociated bit, and I like,

569
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: I went back to work after eight weeks, and I

570
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: do regret it because it was kind of a crutch.

571
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: It was me not knowing how to cope as a

572
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: new mum and not really seeking help and just being like, well,

573
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: I need to go back to work, like I need

574
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: a part of my old identity, and I was really

575
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: chasing that. But then it suffered because I definitely went

576
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: back to work too early. My milk supply suffered, I

577
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: had stop breastfeeding, like kind of a chain of events.

578
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,479
Speaker 1: And look, I definitely it is what it is, and

579
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: I have such a beautiful relationship with Ivy now, but

580
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: it really felt interesting at the start, like I struggled

581
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: with bonding, you know, Like I've seeing other people on

582
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: Instagram about the newborn stage and I honestly just didn't

583
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: feel it. I really struggled. But I can see now

584
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: probably you know why I did. And I obviously am

585
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: putting things in place, so it's different, like I said,

586
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: really focusing on that postpartum. So yeah, I do hope

587
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: it's different, but also it's gonna be what it's gonna be,

588
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, if you do

589
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: go through postnatal depression, if it doesn't look like what

590
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: other people are doing social media or like the perfect

591
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: newborn bubble, I think the worst thing you can do

592
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: is shame yourself and guilt yourself. It's great to have

593
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: hindsight and it's great to have reflection, but also like,

594
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: it's your journey and how it looks is perfect for

595
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: you and your bubb and you can't change that. So

596
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: rather than like regretting it or wanting to change it,

597
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: or like feeling like crap or feeling shame or guilt,

598
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: accept it and being like, you know, what can I

599
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: learn from this? How can I move forward? I think

600
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: that's kind of the best thing. What would your advice

601
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: be to someone who's currently experiencing a miscarriage? Oh, when

602
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 1: Tim and I had our miscarriage, it was literally it's

603
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: so devastating, especially I'm sure, like you know, for a

604
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: long time you want what you want to do is

605
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: be pregnant, have this baby, and then you finally get

606
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: the positive tests and it's so exciting, and then you know,

607
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: you find out the devastating news, whether it's like through

608
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: the doctor, ours was through the doctor of my levels decreasing,

609
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: or you know, you bleed. It's heartbreaking, it's devastating, or

610
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: you know you go to skin and you don't find

611
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: the heartbeat. I don't know. Nothing can like prepare you

612
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: for that feeling, like I'm feeling it now. You can

613
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: even feel like so like so much sadness. So yeah,

614
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: it's so sad, it's so devastating. The only thing you

615
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: can do is like feel into it, like really feel

616
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: how fucking much this sucks, feel how sad it is

617
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: and being that and process it because you don't you

618
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: don't want to try and bypass it. You don't want

619
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: to try and like get over it because it is.

620
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: It's a shitty situation. Obviously, it was like so helpful

621
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 1: to have Tim being like so supportive during that time.

622
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: It was also really helpful for me to like tell

623
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: people like I told my parents, I told my friends

624
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: so they could comfort and support me, and like, I

625
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: know you don't want to hear this right now, but

626
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: it's like take a miscarriage as you can get pregnant,

627
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: like it can happen. It's just it's not. It's not

628
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: if it's just not a right now and it's it's devastating.

629
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: But also what has helped me is I truly do

630
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: believe our baby picks when they're coming in and how

631
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: they coming in and all the things, and so you know,

632
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: even like I feel like this, you know, our first

633
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: egg retrieval that you know, the eggs got killed and whatnot,

634
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: something that helped me process It was like maybe it's

635
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: because we were going to do a fresh transfer and

636
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: I'd get pregnant straight away, and like the baby wouldn't

637
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: have its birthday. It's star signed like when it was

638
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: meant to enter this world, and so I don't know.

639
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: It's again, I believe in the universe. I believe in

640
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 1: like life happens for me and surrender and not that

641
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: life was fucking happening for me when I had a miscarriage.

642
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: But I had to believe in something greater and something

643
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: higher and like, for example, if I didn't experience the

644
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: miscarriage before Ivy, I wouldn't have Ivy, and like I

645
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: just couldn't imagine not having her as my daughter. So

646
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: really trusting that it's like there's a bigger plan working

647
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: here surrendering. Yeah, I think that can be very very helpful.

648
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Speaker 1: Are you sleeping well, apps are fucking not lutely No,

649
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: I'm only just experiencing insomnia, which is so annoying. So

650
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, it's so early. I'm only halfway through.

651
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: I definitely got insomnia with Ivy's pregnancy later on, but

652
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 1: what For example, last night, Ivy came into our bed

653
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: because she's in her big girl bed and she came

654
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: into our bed at two am, you know, cried, came

655
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: into our bed and I was just wide awake, like

656
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: I got woken up and I was wide awake, and

657
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: then you know, my alarm went off and I was like,

658
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't think i've really you know,

659
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: when you like kind of think you sleep but you're

660
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: not sure. Yes, so not sleeping great, but also great

661
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: advice I got in Ivy's pregnancy was like, if you

662
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: don't sleep, don't get too worried about it, Like, don't

663
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: get worked up about it, like just try and like

664
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: read or like do some meditations or breathing. Again, it's

665
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: just your body doing its thing and you kind of

666
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: just got to accept it obviously, like try and do

667
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: what you can like really focus on that night time routine,

668
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: take your moon milk, all those sorts of things. But yeah,

669
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: it suck. It's just like a normal thing. Though. Are

670
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: there any supplements you swear by? So I am taking

671
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: a prenatal supplement, I'm taking a liver supplement. I take

672
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: Creating every single day. Guys. Creating is the most researched supplement,

673
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: and it's actually so amazing for pregnant women and like

674
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: the pre menopausal. I don't know if I'm saying that right,

675
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: but I'm sure you know what I mean. Basically like

676
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: older women when you're not getting a period anymore. It's

677
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: so good for women and we don't produce as much

678
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: as males, and so if you supplement with about five

679
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: grams a day, it's so good for brain health, for

680
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: like heart health, gut health, everything. It's not just like

681
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: a workout supplement that you take to like get strong.

682
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: It can help with muscle building, which is why you

683
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: know it's more in the fitness industry. But creatine is

684
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, do your research. Obviously mine has been

685
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: approved by my doctor, and it's just it's I take

686
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: it every single day. I swear by it. Obviously we

687
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: have our nd hage creatine, which is pure cretine. I'll

688
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: take greens if I'm kind of just like not getting

689
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: my veggies in. I still have protein powders every now

690
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: and again. And collagen, Oh my god, collagen. So in

691
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: Ivy's pregnancy, my doctor actually encouraged me to take collagen

692
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: because the baby takes your collagen and when you turn

693
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: twenty five, you kind of stop producing as much collagen.

694
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: So I was on that shit. And I swear, if

695
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: you guys look at Ivy's hair, she has such luscious

696
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: long hair, and obviously, like you know genes, she gets

697
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: it from me. I have luscious long hair, but I

698
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: swear it's because I smack collagen with her pregnancy, and

699
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: I still to this day smash collagen. And I just

700
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: think it's like one hundred percent. Like if you're buying

701
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: any supplements from NH like collagen and creatine, of course

702
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: use my discount Georgie if you I think it's like

703
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: twenty percent off. And then a prenatal a liver supplement,

704
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: and that's it. I'm trying to think if there's anything else,

705
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: and like I'll take a moonmilk too, obviously just for

706
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: magnesium to sleep better too. That's about it. How do

707
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: you deal with seeing everyone fall pregnant? I struggle so

708
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: bad since I'm not feeling pregnant. I love this question again.

709
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: When you feel jealous or you're feeling emvy, it's a

710
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: great sign. It just means you want that thing. And

711
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: instead of making that a bad thing, be like acknowledge

712
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: that other people are getting pregnant, and instead of being like,

713
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're getting pregnant and I'm not. You

714
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: don't want to focus on scarcity. You don't want to

715
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: focus on lack. You want to focus on, oh my god,

716
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: people are getting pregnant. That means I can get pregnant,

717
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like really focusing on like, well,

718
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: if they can do it, I can do it too,

719
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: and it's not if it's when, and really changing your

720
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: mindset about that, because I do truly believe what you

721
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: focus on expands. So if you're always focusing on why

722
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: you're not getting pregnant, other people are getting pregnant, it's

723
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: so hard. I'm infertile. That's what it's going to expand

724
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: that's what's going to continue. So you really want to

725
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: be doing those mindset shifts. What I was feeling into

726
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: was like, I am so creative. I have birthed businesses,

727
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: I have birthed these creative projects into this world. Like

728
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: I am a female. That is literally what I'm on

729
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: this planet to do. So of course I can create

730
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: and birth a baby, like That's what my body is

731
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: meant to do. And again I can't control the timing,

732
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: but I know I'm a creator when I see other

733
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: people getting pregnant, like amazing, I can get pregnant too.

734
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: Like really instilling this beautiful mindset where you're feeling your feelings,

735
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: of course, but you're not getting stuck in the what

736
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: you don't want to focus on. How are you preparing

737
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: Ivy to avoid attachment wounding? Oh, honestly, haven't thought about this.

738
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to be very honest. It's very different with

739
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: Ivy because I went back to work very early, and I,

740
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: you know, in the family, Tim's to stay at home

741
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: dad and I go to work every day. So she

742
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: knows I go to work every day, and she has

743
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: an attachment to me, you know, obviously when I'm home,

744
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: we you know, attached to the hip. But she's very

745
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: good with I you know, I get on her eye

746
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: level and I look at her and I say, Ivy, baby,

747
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: Bummy's got to go to work. And you know, she's

748
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: asked why a couple of times, and I'm like, you know,

749
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: that's why we get to live in this house. Mommy

750
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: has to go to work and I earn money and

751
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: then I, you know, pay for things, and it's just

752
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: what I have to do. And you know, daddy's at

753
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: home with you, and you know, just literally explaining to her,

754
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: not like an adult would, but just why. And I

755
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: know it's like not you know, she'll kind of find

756
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: out it's not actually normal, but for her it feels normal.

757
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: So it's actually very normal for her to be not

758
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 1: attached to me. And also I go away from work.

759
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, she's a very independent baby, so I

760
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: honestly don't think will struggle with this. If anything, she's

761
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: probably got more attachment to Tim. But also Tim because

762
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: he's a male, not that he's he's very soft, but

763
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, he kind of like doesn't have a buyer

764
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: of it, Like he's like, Civy, do you know what

765
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean? So I don't know, it's very different with

766
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: our family because the dynamics are so different. And also

767
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: when I have the newborn and I'm breastfeeding, like Tim

768
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: will still be there the whole time, So I honestly

769
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: think she's going to be fine. Of course, there's going

770
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: to be that transition. She does hate when me and

771
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: Tim like kiss and cuddle and like you know, are

772
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: an affect without her, she gets like really upset. So

773
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: I can imagine things are going to come up with

774
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: a baby, but we will navigate that when they come up,

775
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: and I will do some more research on that. That's

776
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: such a great thing that I honestly didn't even think about,

777
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: So thank you so much. Last question, how did you

778
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: stay positive during the IVF cycle? We've just found out

779
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: it's our only option. Okay, So how I kind of

780
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: looked at this is in life Again, this is like

781
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: very esoteric going into like my values and my beliefs.

782
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: But in life, I just don't believe you're meant to

783
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: like be born and get everything given to you and

784
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: everything be one hundred percent and everything be like rainbows

785
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: and sun shines and then you die like that. It

786
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. I believe in like reincarnation. I believe

787
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: you know your soul comes here, and it's for a journey,

788
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: it's for lessons, it's for a learning, it's for a becoming.

789
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: And so when obstacles and challenges come up, like infertility,

790
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: like having to go through IVF, like having a miscarriage,

791
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: I very much like to see it as this bigger

792
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: let's like zoom out and think, Okay, how am I

793
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: going to grow from this? How am I going to learn?

794
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: How am I going to show up during this time?

795
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: Because honestly, the person who I am today, who I'm

796
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: so proud of, she was built. I wasn't like this

797
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: when I was thirteen or twenty or even twenty five.

798
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: Who you see now? How I show up and how

799
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: I be and what I believe, it's because I have

800
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: gone through challenges. It's because I have had obstacles, and

801
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: I have had these you know, negative or not so

802
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: great things come into my life and I navigate with

803
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: them and I work through them. So again, anything that

804
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: comes up that is anything like this a challenge, I

805
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: just think of like, okay, this is something with dealt

806
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: and how am I going to show up? How am

807
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: I going to shop for myself? How am I going

808
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: to shop for others? How am I going to be supported,

809
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: How am I going to ask for help? How am

810
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: I going to move through this? And never being a victim,

811
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: because as soon as you're in a victim mindset, you're

812
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: in a scarcity mindset, and it's just nothing good can

813
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: come from that. Feel the feelings, process the feelings, and

814
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: then be like, who do I get to be in

815
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: this moment? Because that's what you're going to remember. That's

816
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: what's really really important. A lot of these challenges are

817
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: make or break, like make or break your relationship, make

818
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: or break who you are. So instead of being like,

819
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: oh no, I can't believe this is happening, I'm like,

820
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: all right, this is happening. I'm gonna shop. And that's

821
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: why in my last podcast, I documented my trying to

822
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: conceive journey because I was really I felt like in

823
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: a first trying to conceive journey, I didn't show up

824
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: the best. Obviously I had to go through it, and

825
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: so I really wanted to document the new one, and

826
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: I really am so proud of how I showed up

827
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: and who I was and doing my meditations and practicing

828
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: what I preach. So again that is what helps me

829
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: with IVF. And it's like it's something we had to

830
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: go through. It's something we had to do, and I

831
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: was so adamant that we were getting a baby on

832
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: the other side, so I was like, cool, of course

833
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: I'll go through this, like I'll do anything for this baby.

834
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: And that's just how I looked at it, and that's yeah,

835
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: that's what helped me. All right, my loves, this has

836
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: gone so long. I am going to love and leave you.

837
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: If you have a pregnant friend, are trying to conceive,

838
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: a friends, or just someone you want to share this with,

839
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: we would appreciate so much. We're an independent body. And also,

840
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: if you do want to access the pregnancy and the

841
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: trying to conceive meditations that I've been talking about in

842
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: this episode, I'll put a link in the show notes

843
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: you can join rise. We do have a free month

844
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: and they're all in there, literally a motherhood tap and

845
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: there's also some like great pep talks and meditations around

846
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 1: like if your toddler's having a tantrum, et cetera. Because

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Speaker 1: it's all about regulating yourself and changing your mindset in

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Speaker 1: the moment. I just I truly believe that. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for listening. I really appreciate it, and I

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Speaker 1: will chat to you in our next poty Bye.