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Speaker 1: You're listening to Mix one oh four point nine now.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday we learned of two new local cases of COVID

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Speaker 1: nineteen in the Northern Territory, taking the total number in

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Speaker 1: the Catherine Robinson River cluster to fifty eight. One of

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Speaker 1: the cases was found in the Binjari community, while the

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Speaker 1: other was isolating in the Center for National Resilience after

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Speaker 1: being identified as a household contact. Joining me on the

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Speaker 1: line is the Health Minister, Attasha Files. Good morning to

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Speaker 1: your minister.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners.

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Speaker 1: Minister. You were expecting wastewater test results back late yesterday

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Speaker 1: for Catherine and La Jamanu. Any idea at this point

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Speaker 1: how those results are looking and how this cluster is looking.

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Speaker 2: So on Saturday evening we received advice that Lajamanu had

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Speaker 2: positive wastewater and we sent our teams straight in there.

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Speaker 2: I have had some early information this morning, Katie, and

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Speaker 2: I'm about to head into Empty to have everything verified

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Speaker 2: that it has become a presumptative positive. So a low

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Speaker 2: reading in Lajamanu, but I'll get the full understanding health

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Speaker 2: from Health Sorry what that means when we meet this morning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that could spell good news. For La Jamano, Katie,

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Speaker 2: To get that advice from our health officials around what

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Speaker 2: that means. What they're thinking is yesterday we had the

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Speaker 2: two cases connected with Binjari and both of those were

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Speaker 2: very low risk to the territory community as they've been

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Speaker 2: certainly will update your listeners, who I know will be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and any idea how things are looking for

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Speaker 1: Catherine at this point was still too early to tell.

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Speaker 2: So Catherine, the information we had yesterday was that we

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Speaker 2: had no cases in Catherine. We've still seen people reaching

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Speaker 2: low detections in the wastewater in Chambers Crescent and by

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Speaker 2: We know we've had COVID in the community. We're still

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Speaker 2: getting those detections, whether it's someone shedding the virus that

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Speaker 1: Now we know the Northern Territory has also recorded its

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Speaker 1: first case of the OMRA con strain at Howard Springs.

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Speaker 1: The case is a repatriated Australian man, as I understand,

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Speaker 1: aged Dennez thirties, who flew directly into Darwin from Johannesburg

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Speaker 2: Public, No, Katie, As you just said, he flew on

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Speaker 2: a repatriation flight from Johannesburg to Darwin and he went

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Speaker 2: also the international repatriations are in a separate zone away

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Speaker 2: So obviously one of the first cases in Australia. I

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Speaker 1: Do we have any idea at this point if the

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Speaker 2: So, Katie, that is a question that our health officials

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Speaker 2: But we do know that a level of vaccination protects

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Speaker 1: Now we know that the cases of this new variant

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Speaker 2: So I think it's too early to say that, Katie.

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Speaker 2: So we certainly don't propose any changes yet to what

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Speaker 1: So at this point in time, no changes to our

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Speaker 2: Correct Fully vaccinated people getting regular tests for risk can

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Speaker 1: When will we be allowed to have international arrivals again

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Speaker 2: That's a really important question, Katie. So the repatriation program

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Speaker 1: So that's for the international arrivals as well, correct, Katie.

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Speaker 2: International commercial flights and so someone could fly from example,

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Speaker 2: or they could be on that direct London to Darwin's flights.

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Speaker 2: There arepatriations flight through a different program, and we'll still

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Speaker 2: So speaking into the Acting Chief Health Officer yesterday. Of

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Speaker 1: All right, minister, I want to take you to a

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Speaker 1: So we wasted forty five minutes in Adelaide getting tested,

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Speaker 2: So the Choe direction and I'm sorry that the listener

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Speaker 2: We know that there's been COVID cases in South Australia,

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Speaker 1: And also though, if people are going to the trouble

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Speaker 2: So, Katie, that Chow directions of the test seventy two

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Speaker 2: I just need to clarify that. But I again apologized

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Speaker 1: Are things going to be streamlined though at the airport?

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Speaker 1: I mean from what that Listeners said, it's a much

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Speaker 2: Well, I have had feedback over the many months of

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Speaker 2: there is always room for us to streamline that process.

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Speaker 2: But people in preparation for Christmas and January school holiday travel.

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Speaker 1: All right, minister, Let's move along because we know that

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Speaker 1: Parliament resumes in the Northern Territory today, the last parliamentary

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Speaker 1: sittings in the NT for this year. The final sittings

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Speaker 1: obviously are going to include a rare conscience vote on

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Speaker 2: So katy four years ago we changed the legislative work

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Speaker 2: our healthcare providers and women's advocacy groups have asked for.

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Speaker 2: It's been through a process of development through government. But

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Speaker 2: it is a conscious vote in the Parliament, so members

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Speaker 2: are able to represent the view that they feel best

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Speaker 2: represent their electorate. So very conscious that it is a

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Speaker 2: difficult debate for some people, but I can't overemphasize importance

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Speaker 2: of this for territory women.

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Speaker 1: I know that the former Independent Jerry Wood has issued

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Speaker 1: a statement last week saying that the bill does not

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Speaker 1: recognize that an unborn child is as a complete individual

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Speaker 1: human life formed by a relationship between a man and

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Speaker 1: a woman and reflected in the new genetic makeup of

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Speaker 1: that life, and it should be protected and cared for

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Speaker 1: inside the mother for the nine months as well as

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Speaker 1: protected by the law. He has said in that statement

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Speaker 1: that unfortunately this is clearly not recognized by the Minister

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Speaker 1: for Health as seen by your abortion on demand bill,

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Speaker 1: where abortions under the proposal could occur up to the

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Speaker 1: day before birth. He says, clearly this bill should not

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Speaker 1: be supported. Minister. What is your response to that, Jerry

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Speaker 1: Wood is.

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Speaker 2: Entitled to We have very different views on this. I

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Speaker 2: believe that this law, it's been demonstrated, it's required to

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Speaker 2: make small improvements so that we can remain contemporary and

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Speaker 2: in the more than territories contact we can support women

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Speaker 2: kb these such tragic circumstances. It is not someone getting

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Speaker 2: to thirty two weeks and going do you know what,

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Speaker 2: actually didn't mean to get pregnant. This is for women

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Speaker 2: that go through the most tragic circumstances of finding out

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Speaker 2: later in their pregnancy that their baby is not developing

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Speaker 2: their fetal abnormality. And so this allows our highly qualified

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Speaker 2: medical practitioners to work with that woman and her family

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Speaker 2: to deliver her potentially life saving care. So it will

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Speaker 2: be debated in the Northern Territory Parliament. I expect a

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Speaker 2: respectful debate. There has been a lot of information provided

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Speaker 2: to members briefings, there has been doctors speaking to members

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Speaker 2: of Parliament and everyone is entitled to their view. My view,

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Speaker 2: this is important legislation for women accessing healthcare in the Territory.

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Speaker 1: Minister for Health, Natasha Files, we are going to have

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Speaker 1: to leave it there. Thank you very much for your

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Speaker 1: time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thank you you're

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Speaker 1: Listening to Mix one O four point nine three sixty