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Speaker 1: Jum mission with Jones and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: To know Our next guest is to love her. She's

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Speaker 2: been Australian comedy royalty for almost twenty years. She has

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Speaker 2: a new memoir out where she lifts a lid on

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Speaker 2: turning life's tragedies into comedy goal. She's always been very

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Speaker 2: honest about her life, so you can imagine what's in

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Speaker 2: this book. FI owner O Lachlan, Hello, she is. Hey guys,

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Speaker 2: so nice to talk to you. How did you find

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Since jo I don't think, No, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: When we were congratulating you on winning the r King

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Speaker 2: and the Queen, but it.

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Speaker 1: Was your special way you congratulated me. You are so sweet.

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Speaker 2: Ah well, actually, well let's talk about the jungle because

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Speaker 2: you've been so seeringly honest in this book. You spoke

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Speaker 2: about how you thought people were laughing at you rather

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Speaker 2: than with you. You didn't have any gauge on how

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Speaker 2: loved you were and to cope with some of that

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Speaker 2: insecurity you you kind of had a bit of a

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Speaker 2: relapse in an unusual way.

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Speaker 1: Way. Yeah, hand sanitizer.

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Speaker 4: But I thought that was a tangle. But I thought

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Speaker 4: that was an urban myth.

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Speaker 5: I heard that and I said, no, no, surely not

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Speaker 5: that there.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank god I put it in there

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Speaker 1: because I'm such an idiot, probably lots of about it.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was the only one I knew.

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Speaker 2: So what why?

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Speaker 4: What led you to that was?

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Speaker 2: Is it just now this is such a beast that's

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Speaker 2: hard to get on top of. Or is it that

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Speaker 2: there were you you felt so insecure you needed to.

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Speaker 1: I think whatever I was thinking, it's it's more to

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Speaker 1: do with my own addiction, if that makes sense. It's

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Speaker 1: like you're.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts will if you think it's the addiction as

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Speaker 3: a personality, it's like, come on, we can get it,

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Speaker 3: we can get her here. But you manufacture these thoughts yourself,

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Speaker 3: and when you're an addict, I'm not sure that the

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Speaker 3: thoughts aren't manufactured to get you what you want your.

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Speaker 2: Self, sabotage yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I believed I was that nervous for all

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Speaker 1: those years, but now I can go and say I'm

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Speaker 1: not that nervous now. I'm thinking, was that all that

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Speaker 1: nervous business part of the alcoholism too? Like? Did I

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Speaker 1: have to I don't know. It's very hard to describe,

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Speaker 1: but it was a relapse in my mind, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have known about hand sanitized except I've been.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: But I heard about it. I knew.

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Speaker 5: I think the thing as well, fan with alcoholism is

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Speaker 5: that there's no set case of alcoholism. There's functioning alcoholics,

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Speaker 5: then there's leaving Las Vegas type alcoholics exactly, and you've got.

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Speaker 4: To work out where you fit in to that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I think I've seen it come

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Speaker 1: in there, but it's like, how can I explain it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we all make our own I wasn't an alcoholic that could.

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Speaker 1: I think if I hadn't been like who I am

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Speaker 1: and just have stayed in Alice Springs, I would have

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Speaker 1: slowly progressed. I would have The progression would have been slower,

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Speaker 1: for sure, but it wouldn't have changed the fact that

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Speaker 1: I am an alcoholic. And I think without having to

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Speaker 1: deal with it, maybe I just would have ended up

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Speaker 1: one of those. You know, it might have been ten

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Speaker 1: years later, but I'd still be at the back of

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Speaker 1: my backyard, a very very sick woman. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: a disease and we are very unwell people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: The book also is hilarious because you're hilarious. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, you've got five kids, you grew up in

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Speaker 2: a big family, A thousand funny stories as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you I kind of a lot. I

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Speaker 1: kind of became the life of the party and then

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Speaker 1: be keeping that up, not just on stage in my

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Speaker 1: own life. That was another role I'd given myself. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know who to be anymore. So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I will struggled terribly to not let anyone down.

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Speaker 5: And you're on yourself as well everybody. Well, I think

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Speaker 5: you're being a bit hard on yourself when you look

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Speaker 5: at it. When you finish the Jungle, there's a part

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Speaker 5: that you were talking about how you thought the phone

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Speaker 5: would ring off the hook, the office would be coming in,

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Speaker 5: talk shows, all this sort of stuff, and then that

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Speaker 5: didn't happen for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I was really I was nervous about

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Speaker 1: writing about that, right, well, your big silk, But then

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Speaker 1: and I thought, that's worth mentioning. What is this? You know,

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Speaker 1: what is the big fear? I mean, I've been in

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Speaker 1: remission since December seventeenths twenty nineteen, but in the last

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Speaker 1: it's been a very long time since I've ever turned

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Speaker 1: up piss to anything like except for maybe a gig

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Speaker 1: mid miss because I was relapsing three to four times

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Speaker 1: of the year for about seven it's last ing I'd

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Speaker 1: always end up in hospital. So yeah, there's about I

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Speaker 1: don't know ten ten days a year that have been

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Speaker 1: very tricky for me. But that's a disease that I manage,

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Speaker 1: you know. I don't know why that seems too. It's

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Speaker 1: the shame and the stigma that really needs to be

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Speaker 1: torn down because it's it's so counterproductive and I've seen

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Speaker 4: But you're great. You are, that's the thing. You are

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Speaker 4: so great.

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Speaker 2: Have you Have you been looking at those you said

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Speaker 2: in your life you don't have to please everybody. Are

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Speaker 2: you finding in a calm now?

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's unbelievable. It's like night and day. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: even having written the book is like night and day

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Speaker 1: for me. I just feel completely free.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm afraid she's free, I can imagine.

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Speaker 4: And you're needed it up on the telly that's sign.

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Speaker 1: And we kept having to talk about how nervous we are,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like nervous, I couldn't be less lovous.

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Speaker 4: And you're sober when you did that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. I turned the corner Shortly after that I

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Speaker 1: did relapse at the end of that and that was

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Speaker 1: my last relapse. And they didn't know, nobody knew. But

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Speaker 1: but there was two women in the Countess Lounge. You

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Speaker 1: knew because that was towards the end of my the

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Speaker 1: last three laps I had. I became an alphole in

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Speaker 1: the Quantus Club. I remember, all right, oh god, I've

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Speaker 1: never been that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but do you know where in that Corners Club?

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Speaker 5: There's plenty in there, so you would have been in

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Speaker 5: good company.

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Speaker 2: That's why every that's why you're so loved. You have

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Speaker 2: an art and you just tell it like it is,

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Speaker 2: and you've done so many people of service by being

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Speaker 2: so open.

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Speaker 4: And this is a day by day proposition. Alcoholism is

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Speaker 4: not something that you get over.

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Speaker 1: You're an Oh God, bless you, thank you, Jonesy. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and it is that that relapsing, which is it's actually

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Speaker 1: a symptom of the disease, but it is the most

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Speaker 1: soul destroying And I bloody hope I'm out of it

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Speaker 1: because it was too long. It went fifteen years, you know,

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Speaker 1: all up?

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Speaker 4: Will you call us whenever you need this?

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Speaker 3: Fiana, Oh God, I love you too, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, congratulations on this book. I love how you've

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Speaker 2: put this, Fiona O. Lachland, Truth from an unreliable witness,

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Speaker 2: finding laughter in the darkest of places. All power to

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Speaker 2: your Fiona.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, really great.

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Speaker 4: All right you take care O talk soon.

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Speaker 1: Ye bye, with Jones and Amanda