1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Here at Two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land on which we record 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: this podcast. There were injurie people, This land was never seated, 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: always was always will be. Hello and welcome to two 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Good Sports Spots. Dear is told differently as always Georgie. 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: Duney, I mean, I love that information every week. I 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: love knowing who you are. I'm Abby Delmy and George. 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: I am so excited it's a good one about our 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: topic this week because it is genuinely for me. A 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: Remember where you were when, yes, you found out that 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: Simon Biles had pulled out of the Tokyo Games and 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: the shock that radiated. Granted I was doing the coverage, 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: so the radiation was probably a bit more hectic. And 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: we're like, but we've done all these promos. She's the 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: greatest of all time. She might win five goals. 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 1: We've got so many packages put to lovely music, We've 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: got a roll of sometime. 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: Where are we going to show all the things. Who's 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: going to care about gymnastics now? But she is The 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: word goat is thrown around a lot in sport, but 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: she is undisputedly the greatest that we've ever seen in gymnastics, 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: and what happened in Tokyo shook the world. Anyway, good sports, 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: bad sports hit me. 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: Okay, I've actually got a couple. I'm gonna start. No, no, 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm breaking rules on it, but I'm gonna be quick. 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be quick. I premise from us. I'm going 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: to start with my bad sport of the week, which 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: is me because was there a State of Origin game recently? 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: And Queensland did not do very well? Was I at 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: the game in attendance? And do I not get to 31 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: see very much rugby league because I live in Melbourne 32 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: these days? All of those things correct? Did I behave well? 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: When you know New South Wales could only score tries 34 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: and Queensland were just like you're looking for the tryline? 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: Oh babe, is here? 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: Get it? 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: Here go here's the tryline. So queens was smashed by 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: New South walest I didn't handle it that well. So 39 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm the bad sports terms that I don't really like winning, 40 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't like lucy. 41 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: Just the word pets wouldn't come to much. 42 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah anyway, So that's you know, I'm wrapping myself on 43 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: the wrist there. So that was me and my reaction 44 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: to that. But we always love a decider, so that's great. 45 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: The thing in the commentary, because I must admit I 46 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: turned on and I was like, oh, welfared, check on. 47 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: George sent me that dog with on fire in the 48 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: house saying this is fine, because I was like, I 49 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 2: honestly wanted to know who was with you and to 50 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: find out what tier of the MCG you're on and 51 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: to make sure they were going to check your own. 52 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: And in commentary they were like, it's the greatest first 53 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 2: half we've ever seen in origin. I'm like, the greatest 54 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: margin because it's not the greatest contest. What is this? 55 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: It was terrible? 56 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: Was terrible. 57 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: Also bad sport to the ground announcer who kept being 58 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: like Queensland, your team needs you Queensland, and then like 59 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: two seconds later would go New South Wales, your team 60 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: needs you New South Wales, and I was like, you 61 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: are the same person. You can't have the same person 62 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: going for both teams anyway, No good, We'll just pretend 63 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: it didn't exist. Excited for the decider. My good sport 64 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: of the week is I want to highlight an pleet 65 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: called Alex Bolt. Have you heard this story? No, so 66 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: Alex Bowl. If anyone's seen Challenges, it's essentially that plotline, 67 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: except without a three seven, without Zendaya. It's a little 68 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: bit of a deviation. But Alex Bolt is a thirty 69 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: one year old Australian tennis player. He's ranked number two 70 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty four in the world. 71 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: I did hear about this was he was going to 72 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: get a feed. 73 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: He was over at Wimbledon. He had a wild card 74 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: entry kind of thing to even get into the qualification 75 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: round to make it into the main draw of Wimbledon, 76 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: and he was like, Ah, it's not looking likely. I 77 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to go. I'm going to go 78 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: get some food. His name was announced on the loud 79 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: speaker that actually someone had pulled out and so he 80 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: needed to get ready in ten minutes. He wasn't true 81 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: to find his wife's four Wimbledon for the qualifiers, he 82 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: had to win a couple of games. He did that 83 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: after not thinking he was even going to play, and 84 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: now he's made it to the first round of Wimbledon. 85 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: I just love that he was like, I was on 86 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: my way to get some food and heard my name 87 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: and was like, am I being punked? Like this is 88 00:03:59,360 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: this me? 89 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was just like, oh god, wolf, another great 90 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: day on the training court. 91 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: But again like replenish, I'm going to keep with this 92 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: yes tennis theme in my good Sport of the week again, 93 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: shock horror. I don't know how we still get to 94 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: keep talking about him, but I am anyway federer. Have 95 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: you watched the doc? 96 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: I haven't watched the doctor. Oh my god, it's just 97 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: a curt I don't know if I'm ready. 98 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: It's the last twelve days or whatever it is of 99 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: his journeys. He's about to announce his retirement, and the 100 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: scenes of he and Rafael Nadal embracing each other and 101 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: wailing is just I just baled. I sat there in 102 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: a sports just went, oh my god. And it's just 103 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: the most beautiful thing. 104 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: We talk about rivalries and sport. The Fidal rivalry I 105 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: think is one of the best and most favorite of 106 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: mine that will go down my lifetime. I mean, I'm 107 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: only in my early thirties, but I just think nothing 108 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: is going to top. 109 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: But also just the way that they talked about how 110 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: they've shaped this camaraderie in tennis and saying we had 111 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: this great rivalry. But I think the youngsters coming through 112 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: youngsters being no. Djokovic could see the way that we 113 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: related with each other and we're like, oh, okay, we 114 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: can be friends in the locker room, but then we 115 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: can be fierce rivals out there. And it was all 116 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: centered around the labor cup, oh yes, which was all 117 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: Roger's idea, but there was. And the way he speaks 118 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: about his family and how old his twins two sets 119 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: of twins are now makes me feel like I should 120 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: be in the grave because the girls looks like they'd 121 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 2: be told than me. And I'm like, I remember when 122 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: you went to Grand Slams and were reading books. 123 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: Mean, that's right. They look like the von Trapps. 124 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: In the. 125 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: Babe your Father's playing. 126 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 2: If you haven't seen it, you must, and that iconic 127 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 2: selfie that they taught it the four the Murray, Djokovic, 128 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: Nadal and Federer where they're all suited up. You see 129 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: them taking that shot and everything else. But I also 130 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: have another good sport. 131 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: Oh we're both. 132 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: This is not a visual medium, so I'm going to 133 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: have to rustle it. You know, I'm a paper gal. 134 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: I'm a newspaper girl. I love is hard puppy and 135 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: ah Georgie Tonney, the TV presenter, broadcaster and sports journal 136 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: on a list encounters obviously me and avoiding career burnout 137 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: obviously not obviously failed that one. Anyway, Our girl is 138 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: in the paper talking all things, other things that she 139 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 2: does in her life, but two good sports. Get to 140 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: mention you look sensational. She needs to be in one 141 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: of my good sports. There you go, she's blushing. She's blushing. 142 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: Let's get into a deep dive because I'm pumped. 143 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: Jeremy, if it feels like the name Simone Biles has 144 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: sort of been omnipresent for our entire lives, it pretty 145 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: much has, because she has been on the world stage 146 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: and pretty much owning the world stage for a very 147 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: very long time. And when you consider that she's owned 148 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, what she has achieved is mind blowing. 149 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: So I think that it is pertinent for us to 150 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: begin with a somewhat of an origin story. We're gonna 151 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: truncate this because honestly, if we sat here and just 152 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: listed all of her achievements, I think it would take 153 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: us twenty four hours. 154 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: I was about to say, strap yourself in this. We cannot, 155 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: we cannot go through her achievements, her World championships and 156 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: everything else. But we can tell you that she is 157 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: a prodigy defined. And something that we found out about 158 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: her doing the research that I didn't know was that 159 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: she was adopted, yes, and that her mum apparently abused 160 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: alcohol and she and her sister and brother were put 161 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: into foster care. And she was later adopted at three 162 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: years old by her grandparents. So she calls her mum 163 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: and dad. But I love this the serendipity of the world. 164 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: As part of her you know, kinder primary school at 165 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: six years old, they were meant to go on a 166 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: tour of a train yard. It was raining that day, 167 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: and so they're like, oh, we can't take kids out 168 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: in the rain. Where will we go. Oh there's a 169 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: gym with a gymnastics class, Let's go there. No way, 170 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: So she wasn't even meant to do a tour of gymnastics. 171 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: And little Simone Biles, who in her own terms, was 172 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: ripped at six years old because she said, I was tiny, 173 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: but I was always muscular and I never did anything 174 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: to deserve it. I was just built this way. 175 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: We talk about you know, there are sometimes you can 176 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: train for however long you want you can spend, however 177 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: long in the gym thinking about strategy all of this. 178 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: Simone Biles was put on this planet to be a gymnast. 179 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: Phelps was put on the planet to be a swimmer. 180 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: Bolt was meant to be the fastest man in the world. 181 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: If you line them up, there's a slight height difference. 182 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: But she was built so much so that she said 183 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: she went in there and saw these girls tumbling and 184 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: was like, that looks fun, but I can do that. 185 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: She's like I was six, and I was like, I 186 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: can do And all of a sudden, the coaches are like, 187 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: she she can do that. Have you, young girl, have 188 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 2: you had any experience, madam? Because if you could come 189 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: under our wing, that would be great. 190 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: Tell that's the own prodigy. From a young age. She 191 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: showed talent where I didn't. 192 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: And she joined that club and remained part of the 193 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: club for eleven years. And her winning streak started basically 194 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: from the age of six. So from the beginning, she 195 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: was just this talent where she was born to do it, 196 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: so much so that it became apparent that normal schooling, 197 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 2: particularly during high school, wasn't going to be something that 198 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: she could do. She was all in all in and 199 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: also there were laws I think in the South but 200 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: not the North of America, where you had to have 201 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: contact hours of a certain amount of times. She was like, 202 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: even if I did all my school work, because I 203 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: couldn't be there because I was already traveling for camps. 204 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: I was so good, I had to make all of 205 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: these training camps. I mean that you think about the 206 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: commitment and the discipline that exists in all sports. Yes, yes, 207 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: I know, I know gymnastics is a whole. 208 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: Other level, and how young they can be stars in 209 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: that she was too young for London, but she really 210 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: should have been there. 211 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, because she was that good. She was that good 212 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: but couldn't actually didn't qualify because of her age. But 213 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: just think about in terms of train like it's thirty 214 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: hours a week that they're doing at that age, preteens. 215 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: It just means that your life is devoid of any 216 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: normal childhood things. And the thing that probably best highlighted 217 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: this for me was I was listening to an interview 218 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 2: with her. She was like, yeah, because the first time, 219 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: you know, I never went to prom. I never had 220 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: any school dancers, So the first time I danced with 221 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: a boy was on dancing with the stars, and I 222 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 2: just wonder if anyone else can. 223 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: Say that, does that kind of extrame. 224 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: Like I was nineteen and I just and she was like, 225 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: you know, I got embraced by this man. I thought, Oh, 226 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: what's happening here? Yeah, like as in this it all 227 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 2: feels really foreign to me. So while we've watched her 228 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: grow up, she grew up in gymnastics with this immense 229 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: amount of pressure and something that perhaps we don't understand 230 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: in Australia because gymnastics gymnastics is there swimming, yes, yes, 231 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: and that the expectation is gold or you've really. 232 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: Failed, yes yes. And also I mean you think about 233 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: Simone's background and I think it is a very common 234 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 1: story within the gymnastics world. You have some working class 235 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: kids that are now dedicating their life and this is 236 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: their way out right, this is their way. 237 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: Or the sacrifices by all family members, siblings that don't 238 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: get to have a normal life. 239 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And they see gymnastics as that they take 240 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: it so so very seriously because it is put upon 241 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: a pedestal over. 242 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: There, and the pedestal was atopped by Simone Biles because 243 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: when she went to Rio, she did something that athletes 244 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: never done before. Four gold medals. 245 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: Yes, and the chat around Simone Biles really did. I 246 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: remember around you know, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, she was 247 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: the name on everyone's lips. She had started winning a 248 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: world championships and doing incredible things and being so good 249 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: that commentators were struggling to find superlatives for her. 250 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: They had American but not around the world. We hadn't 251 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: heard about her, but America loved her so much. So 252 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: you said she was on the Ellen Show. 253 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I remember. Yes, My introduction to Simone 254 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: Biles was, yes, her gymnastics first, but she would go 255 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: on the Ellen Show. She was there and the lead 256 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: up to Rio, and I remember like she was just 257 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: such a mild mannered, gorgeous little thing with this huge 258 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: smile and just you know. 259 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: She's so charismatic. 260 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, insane amounts of talent. I mean now, knowing what 261 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: we do about the show, A lot of the questioning, 262 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: both pre and post the Olympics are centered around her 263 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: love for Zach Jeffron. I remember though, when she was 264 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: on Ellen, it was like this big moment of oh 265 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: my gosh, an athlete who's a superstar, like because only famous, 266 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: like the most famous people went on Ellen. Yes, and 267 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: so you're like, oh my god, who is this? 268 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: Who is this? 269 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: She must be someone that everyone needs to care about 270 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: and she is to be fair, what a boss? 271 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: And they did. So she just surpasses any achievement of 272 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: any American gymnasts, but any gymnast in the world. The 273 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: World championships that fell on our feet. I mean, she's 274 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: the first gymnast to win six world all round titles 275 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen to fifteen, twenty eighteen to nineteen, and 276 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. Incredible, and he is starting to have 277 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: moves named after her because she's the only one to 278 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 2: ever achieve them. But in Rio was where the world changed. 279 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: She said, I opened my phone, and something that I 280 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: learned about Simone through listening to interviews is she was 281 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: very sensitive to social feedback, which she would be. And 282 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: she said, every time I opened and refreshed my phone, 283 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 2: there was ten thousand more people that were following me, 284 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: and soon millions, And I just thought, you weren't here 285 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: for the journey. Why does it matter to you that 286 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: I'm a good gymnast if you don't care about gymnastics. 287 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, I have this audience, I 288 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: have this profile, but I've achieved what I wanted out 289 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: of my entire life at nineteen. This has been my 290 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 2: world from six. I'm nineteen. I just won the Olympics. 291 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: Because I love Americans, that's how they talk. She was like, 292 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: I won the Olympics. I was only nineteen. I'm considered 293 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: a veteran. I know that. Some gymnasts like that's it, 294 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: Like at nineteen, you're on the shelf. 295 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's the thing. It is a young person's sport. 296 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: It always had been. And to be honest, like Simone Biles, 297 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: we talk about her being made for gymnastics. Her body 298 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: is made for gymnastics, but also it is a body 299 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: that we weren't used to see and competing Yeah at 300 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: the top level. I mean you're talking about an African 301 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: American woman who would not have had people that look 302 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: like her in this book totally go and celebrated and celebrated. Yes, 303 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: that's the key, and now she is that for so 304 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: many other people. 305 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: And so she took a hiatus because she's reached this 306 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: enormous peak and just said I felt the pressure to 307 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: be strong. Everyone had always described me as this strong personality, 308 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: strong character. She's still very close with her sister and 309 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: she's like, my sister was probably the one person that 310 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: I could talk to about the fact that I was 311 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: having these anxieties and this feeling about performance. 312 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: Because it really is the Olympics, I think. I mean, 313 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: we love them here, but it really does demonstrate how 314 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, general public and sports fans in general, and 315 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: we love them, we are a part of them, but 316 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: they do tend to lean towards everything being an overnight success. Yes, 317 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: So like for them, they'd never heard of Simon Barles 318 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: one day. The next day, she was the biggest thing 319 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: on earth. But as you said, it's taken her entire 320 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: life to get there. But we're like, but where's she 321 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: come from? 322 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: My God? And Twitter also a lot bigger in the States. 323 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: Yes, at that time. 324 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: What at that time, Joe Public just had a Twitter 325 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: and would tell you what they thought of someone. So 326 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: she's getting all of this love at a time where 327 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: you're growing up. You're trying to get an idea of 328 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: who you are as a person. Everyone's telling you amazing, 329 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: everyone's telling you're amazing. You're on dancing with a style 330 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: and you can't do anything wrong. You are basically America's 331 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: Golden girl. But you're wondering if I can't replicate this, 332 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: like what's next? Who am I? And then bubbling under 333 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: all of this we now know was a very public court. 334 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: Case, Oh, the Larry Nasa scandal. I think that this 335 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: is one of the greatest failures, embarrassments, abuses in sports history, 336 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: and it just goes to show I think that American 337 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: gymnastics is still recovering. I think it's something that they 338 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: will have to reckon with totally forever now. It is 339 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: one of the darkest days I think in American sport 340 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: when all of this came out, and that was that 341 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: their sports doctor, so the American Gymnastics teams doctor, Larry Nassa. 342 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: It came out that he had been abusing all of 343 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: the athletes under his care. 344 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: So approximately ninety claimants, including Biles and other athletes, file 345 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: claims with the FBI seeking more than a billion dollars 346 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: for failing to prevent NASA's alleged sexual assaults. And she's 347 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: since spoken about it and said we would talk about 348 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: it as a group. And this was a trusted figure 349 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: that we were told had our career in his hands, 350 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: and when you knew what was happening to you was 351 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: happening to everyone, you were like, oh, well, maybe maybe. 352 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: This is just this is what you need to succeed. 353 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you'd think about those training camps. There's an 354 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: incredible documentary on Netflix called athlete a andcarage everyone to 355 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: watch it, which goes into detail about just how on 356 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: earth this happened, because you're like, how how could this 357 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: have been and young people for so long? And that's 358 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: the key. They're young, so they are needing to put 359 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: their trust into people to take care of them because 360 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: they are children when they go into these training camps. 361 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: And that was just completely taken advantage of. 362 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 2: And while there may well have been ninety claiments, the 363 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: face of them all was Simone. 364 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: I remember when these claims started. You started to hear 365 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: whispers about this, and we were probably just started working 366 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: in sports media at the time, and so you were 367 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: hearing whispers and reports and you're like, what is going 368 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: on over there? But there was always in the lead 369 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: up being like, I wonder if Simone Biles, yes has 370 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: been part of this. I wonder if Simone Biles's affected. 371 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder I wonder, and then when she 372 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: put her name to it and said I am one 373 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: of the victims, it then became even bigger, an even 374 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: bigger story. 375 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: And she said that's why she did it, because she 376 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: was so aware of her profile and the power that 377 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: her name would bring to it that as much as 378 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 2: it would be, something that was really heavy for her 379 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: and still is. She says she still speaks to a therapist. 380 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: And again, how healthy that she speaks publicly about still 381 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 2: seeking therapy about something that happened to her when she little, 382 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: because we know that it's not like a physical injury. 383 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: There's no timeline on this. It's something that you carry 384 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: with you. But also her success meant the success of 385 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 2: US Gymnastics, which then reflected at the time, well on 386 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: these people that had abused her and so many others. Yes, 387 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 2: so you can only imagine the conflict that was going 388 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: on internally as well. 389 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, it was just it must have been such 390 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: an horrific time. And then to continue loving the sport, 391 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, like this is all that you've known and 392 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: it's hurts so much, and then still wanting to do 393 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: it though because you love it, Like it's such a 394 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: confusing time and after Rio, I know that that was 395 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: when Simone took her first break. Then she's dealing with 396 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: all of this. She returns for World Championships. 397 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, where she became the first female gymnast in nearly 398 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 2: twenty five years to win all five events, including a 399 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: record setting fifth all round title. 400 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: This is what I mean. 401 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: And so again she's just like trauma, Get on my back. 402 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to go vault now. 403 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah she can. I think, I mean, she should 404 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: be studied with how she's able to compartmentalize all of this. 405 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 1: But that's such an athlete thing, right. They're so intense 406 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: for a reason. The reason that they are good is 407 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: that they can drown out all of the white and 408 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: make everything white noise when they need it to be. 409 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: We have the shopping list of her achievements in front 410 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: of us and I'm trying to figureut which ones to 411 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 2: read it. And it's really I mean, producer James has 412 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 2: done a wonderful job. Because there are trees that have 413 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: been sacrificed. We will recycle well because what she has 414 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: achieved in that time was just predicularly in twenty nineteen, 415 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: she became the first gymnast in more than six decades 416 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: to win five gold medals at the World champ So 417 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: that's after doing that in twenty eighteen. She backs it 418 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: up in twenty nineteen, Georgie, what happens forget sport? What 419 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 2: happens in twenty twenty. 420 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 1: Oh, there was a little flu going around the world. 421 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 2: As we knew, it shut down, absolutely shut down. So 422 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: you're preparing for an Olympics, and she says, I've never 423 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: been more prepared for anything in my life. But also 424 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: in this time, while winning six, five gold medals World 425 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: Championships all the day, Simone Biles is diagnosed with depression 426 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: and anxiety privately, and she said I was able to 427 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: hide it so well because you do all these incredible 428 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: training hours, and what do I do when I'm not training. 429 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 2: I'm in bed recovering on my own. So all the 430 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: signs of people being like, oh, you know, you've become 431 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: a bit of a recluse, well, yeah, that's what I 432 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: need to do to perform at an elite level. But 433 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: she said, even in the lead up to the Games, 434 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 2: I had this gut feeling that something out of my 435 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: control was going to go wrong, and I'd never been 436 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 2: better prepared for a meet. But I just had this 437 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: feeling that something was going to happen. 438 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: And when you have great success, you also have a 439 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: great microscope upon you. Like heading into those Tokyo Games 440 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: which were delayed because of COVID, and it was twenty 441 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: twenty one, all of the talk and the lead up is, 442 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, an excitement being I can't wait to see 443 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: some mobiles and see what she's able. 444 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: I had a love heart around the day she was 445 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: competing in my calendar, Like we got to meetings and 446 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 2: I was like, I want to do the gymnastic. I 447 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 2: don't even understand it, but I just want to watch 448 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: because you watch her flip and it's mesmerizing. 449 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: Because also you're watching something that's never been done before. 450 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: She keeps doing the hardest of the hardest of the 451 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: hardest things. 452 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: Well, she brought in the simone too, which was a 453 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 2: double vault trip back that no one had ever done before, 454 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: and she'd achieved this up to the game, So all 455 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: of the chat was was she going to pull that 456 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: out in one of her routines. So it wasn't how's 457 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: she going to go? It was like, is she going 458 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: to pull out that move that's changed gymnastics. 459 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: That no one else can do. 460 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: But meanwhile, in Simone's mind, it's the first meet in 461 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: her life where her parents haven't been there. 462 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course, because no crowds could be You 463 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: didn't see that, Yeah. 464 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, you support network's not there. 465 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: Things are getting very loud. We're introducing the term now 466 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: called the twisties, the twisties, which it is also snack, 467 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: but something that I think was not part of general 468 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: sporting vernacular before. It totally wasn't. 469 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: I think the closest terminology that I had heard before, 470 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: which is kind of akin to the twisties, is the yips. 471 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: Yes, you get the yips. 472 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: You hear athletes talk about that one day, you know, 473 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: they've dedicated their whole life to a sport, and then 474 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: one day they go on to the court and they're like, 475 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: I'm never going to play this ever again, and they 476 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: walk off and they don't return, or. 477 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: I just don't understand how I used to do this 478 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: so casually and now it feels challenging. But with gymnastics, 479 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: when that happens, when you're mid third rotation in the 480 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 2: air and you lose all orientation of where you are 481 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: and what you're meant to be doing. I cannot imagine 482 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 2: the fear and. 483 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: How to terrify. Imagine being on that beam when you 484 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: already count that tiny little piece of wood and you're 485 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: doing those front flips, backflips. Everything already no look, and 486 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: you're trying to land on a three centimeter he said. 487 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: Like what Simone describes it? She said, Imagine driving on 488 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: a highway at one hundred kilometers and then you forget 489 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: how to drive the car. Oh, and you're there going 490 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 2: I know I've done this a million times, but which 491 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: of these pedals do I need to push? What happens? 492 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: And the panic that just radiates for your body and 493 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: you've driven a million times, but all of a sudden, 494 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: everything around you becomes foreign and you are in grave danger. 495 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again on the world's biggest stage. You're going 496 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: through this. 497 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: So she's having little feelings of this leading up to Tokyo, 498 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: but isn't telling anyone yes, because in her word, she's 499 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: a veteran Lola lol twenty four. I'm a veteran. I'm 500 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: seeing you. They look up to me and again I 501 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 2: love Americans. She's like, I'm our star player. I'm our 502 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: star player in the team event where we're expected to 503 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: win gold. I can't be showing any issues or any doubt. 504 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 2: This is when it all unraveled. But the day before, 505 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: when they were preparing for the finals, Simone posted to 506 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 2: Instagram and this is something that then became under a 507 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: massive spotlight when she pulled out, because we were like, 508 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: is this mental? Is this physical? She didn't seem to 509 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 2: hurt herself. What is happening? But she posted to her 510 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: personal account saying it wasn't an easy day or my best, 511 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: but I got through it. I truly do believe that 512 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: I had the weight of the world on my shoulders. 513 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: At times. I know I brush it off and make 514 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: it seem like the pressure doesn't affect me, but damn 515 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 2: sometimes it's hard. Ha ha ha ha. The Olympics is 516 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 2: no joke. But I'm happy my family was able to 517 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: be with me virtually. They mean the world to me. 518 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 2: And so in the team events. On the vault, which 519 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: again I was about to say, is a pet event, 520 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: everything is her pettitvent thing is she landed a score 521 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 2: of thirteen point seventy sixty six, so that put her 522 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: in last place. 523 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: It was her lowest score in her Olympics career. 524 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 2: We now know that she was lining up for that 525 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: vault and said, I ran at the vault not knowing 526 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: what I was going to do. She fumbles uncharacteristically, which 527 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 2: again a fumble for her. The world goes. 528 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: And she among them and it's me. 529 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: She does say, like, you know, I almost broke my 530 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: leg as in the way that she lands was so awkward, 531 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: but she does manage to stabilize herself. But she said 532 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: in that moment, her so internal monologue was America hates me. 533 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: I can't go home, and I can't imagine what Twitter 534 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: is saying about me right now. 535 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: Wow. 536 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: So instead of landing and going, thank God, I'm alive, 537 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: did anyone say, like I am, Actually she's gone. America 538 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: hates me. 539 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: She did make the difficult call after that that she 540 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: was not going to compete in the rest of the 541 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: team's event. She took herself out at a time when 542 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: they could still get another team member in. It was 543 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: early enough that they could replace her in that team. 544 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 2: I think Jordan was the athlete's name, and they subbed 545 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: her in. But essentially yes, so if she had have 546 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: waited any longer or tried to push it any longer, 547 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: it would have really reprimanded Team USA. But Team USA 548 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: are like, wait, what what? What? 549 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: What's happening? 550 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: Are you sure what? And we can tape you up? 551 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: What do you need? 552 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: And that was the thing, because this obviously sends everyone spirally, 553 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: and Team USA put out a statement saying Simone Biles 554 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: has withdrawn from the Team Final competition due to a 555 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: medical issue. She'll be assessed daily to determine medical clearance 556 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: for future competitions. And this is when everyone was going, Wow, 557 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: maybe she did hurt her leg. 558 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: So she withdrew. But what she did that I think 559 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: we haven't seen to this magnitude was to just stand 560 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: up and own that it was her mental health. But 561 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: she basically just goes on to say, my mental is 562 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: not there and I need to focus on myself well. 563 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: And she talks about the variables, and I think the 564 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: biggest variable and she has talked about it since we're 565 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: going to hear from her in a second, but she 566 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: talks about one of those variables being the trauma and 567 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: still trying to deal with that and everything that had 568 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: happened with Larry Nassa and coming to terms with who 569 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: she is but what that means for her in terms 570 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: of her physical performance. 571 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: Now, it wasn't just a mental injury that happened called 572 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 3: the twisters. It's like compressing all of this shit for 573 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 3: so many years, it just unfold deed, like you can't. 574 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: You can't compress trauma that much longer. At that point, 575 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 3: after I came out about it, they're like, she. 576 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 2: Doesn't want to lose. 577 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: And I was like, first of all, I almost broke 578 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: my leg, but it's thankfully I didn't break my leg. 579 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 3: And I called my agent and I was like, this 580 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 3: is a mental injury that they can't see. Do they 581 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 3: want me to wear a helmet? I'm like, because they 582 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: couldn't see it, so they couldn't relate to it. They 583 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 3: couldn't grasp it. It's not something that I could tell 584 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 3: them so that they could feel, Like if I broke 585 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 3: my ankle, they'd be like, should I broke my ankle before? 586 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: Too? Like I know how it feels. 587 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: Of course she can't vault, but for a mental injury, 588 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: nobody could understand it. So there were so many narratives 589 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: thrown around, and I knew something was gonna go wrong. 590 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 3: I couldn't pinpoint what it was or when it was 591 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 3: gonna happen. But I just had this feeling deep down, 592 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 3: this is not gonna go the way I wanted to. 593 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: And I don't know why, but I have this deep, 594 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 3: deep feeling like something's gonna happen. 595 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: So that was Simone Biles talking to Alex Cooper and 596 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: call her daddy. And the thing is though, So she 597 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: was struggling with all of that, she still goes out 598 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: to compete. So she's pulled out of the team event 599 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: at the Olympics, she still competes in an individual event 600 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: in the beam she won bronze. She still is despite 601 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: all of the criticism, all of the pressure, everything, a 602 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: performer is a performer, yep, and she is one of 603 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: America's favorite children. Right twenty twenty two, she's awarded the 604 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: prestigious Presidential Medal of. 605 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: Freedom, the most American thing I've ever heard. 606 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, she returned after a two year 607 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: break and just her set. In just her second competition back, 608 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: she became. Of course she did. She did the most 609 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: of the My Boss thing ever and became the first 610 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: gymnast in US history to win eight all round titles 611 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: like She's won an unprecedented thirty world championship medals. Among them, 612 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 1: twenty three are gold, so she's still achieving despite all 613 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: of this happening in the background. She's heading into this 614 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: Games again as the poster child of the sport. 615 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: Team USA posted a photo of her in that floor 616 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 2: routine and all that said was we see that smile, Simone. Yeah, 617 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: And I just think that her legacy and what she 618 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: wants her legacy to be, is that she's been an 619 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: advocate for all these things that she's spoken out about, 620 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 2: and she's like, whether that's ADHD, whether that's foster care, 621 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: whether that's mental health. I just hope that people think 622 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: that I'm someone that's done that well, but also that 623 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: did it with a smile on her face. Yes, And 624 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: we deeply believe that the smile on her face now 625 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 2: is genuine because of how authentic that she's been and 626 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: that she would only return to gymnastics if it was 627 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: something that she needed. That's the thing. 628 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: It's so like, this headline of this article says, all 629 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: smiles for Biles, and it just is so heartbreaking to 630 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: think about, over the course of her journey, how many 631 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: of those smiles haven't been real. Because she deserves to 632 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: be the happiest person ever. 633 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: Everyone does, especially those that have gone through trauma. And 634 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 2: my god, are the highlighters out for the days that 635 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: she's going to be competing? Ready? I am ready? And 636 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: I think the lesson from this is that what she 637 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: would have believed for a lo time was her weakness 638 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: has ended up being her greatest strength and she is strong. Georgie, 639 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: it's fun factor. 640 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm excited. 641 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: As you well know, my life has changed dramatically in 642 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: the last couple of years, so much so that I 643 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: rarely miss the four pm chase. Oh hang on that. 644 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: I read the four pm news that I rarely miss 645 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: the five pm Chase, not to be confused with the 646 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: three pm chase. You can leave that editing there, James. 647 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: I'll just own it. That's how well my brain's going 648 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: at the moment. And there was a question on there 649 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: that was sport related, and I've actually been on the 650 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: Chase before you have. I remember when you were on, 651 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: and I was absolutely packing it that there would be 652 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: a sports question that I should know that I wouldn't get. 653 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: It's always a risk, it's always a risk. 654 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: No, I'm playing along at home, probably microwaving some food 655 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: for Louis at this point, and there was a Wimbledon 656 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: question and I thought, oh, born for this and it 657 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: was even multiple choice, so really it was a lob up. 658 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna ask me the question, and you've 659 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: got to what's my buzzer? 660 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll say, Georgie, you'd hope. 661 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: My name is my buzzer. 662 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: I haven't written the question, but I can paraphrase. Essentially, 663 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: atop the Men's Wimbledon trophy, one of the most prized 664 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: piece of silverware in world sport sits what a a crown, 665 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: B A pineapple, C A tennis ball? 666 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: Georgie, Yeah, I would assume it's the crown because it's 667 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: like a royal for there's always the royal boxes, right. 668 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: I think tennis balls too easy. But now, because why 669 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: would it be a pineapple? Because they eat strawberries and creams, 670 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: so it should be a strawberry. Anyway, my answer is a. 671 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: Something that I just I was so sure that you 672 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: were know this. It's a pineapple. Why there's a pineapple 673 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: atop the men's Wimbledon trophy and I know that we 674 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 2: are starting Wimbledon this week. You had an amazing good sport. 675 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: Google it and there's Federer holding a lofty trophy with 676 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: a pineapple on top, and I just thought, how no 677 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: one can explain it? 678 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: Why no one can't eat pineapples? 679 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 2: So there's been a handful of iterations of the trophy, 680 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 2: they've just never changed it. And they think it's because 681 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: in the latter half of the nineteenth century pineapples are 682 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: very rare in Europe because they were hard to grow 683 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: so therefore expensive. So just atop the Wimbledon trophy, who 684 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: is a random return? 685 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: I mean it looks like a sickly pineapple, doesn't it that? 686 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: How has no one is an upside down? 687 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: It's never occurred to me, But that's a pineapple. 688 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean it looks like an avocado. 689 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: To be fair to you. 690 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: It also looks like it could be a champagne bottle. 691 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: Well, they've probably had to adapt it. What but you 692 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: could have knocked me over with failing me. 693 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: Hang on, I'm trying to think back to all the 694 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: times that we have seen like Federer, Djokovic les be 695 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: honest with this trophy, just kissing the trophy and they're 696 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: a tropical fruit on top. Because I think England and 697 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: I think, oh, better tropical fruit. 698 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: But while I was stunned and glad I didn't have 699 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: to answer that question on national television, I thought, my god, 700 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: is that a fun factor research done? I am glad 701 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: that you didn't know it, because I thought of all 702 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 2: people in my life that would go, oh, yeah, it's 703 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: a pineaff. 704 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: Obviously it's a pineapple. 705 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 2: You would be it. 706 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: No, it should be a strawberry. I think we should. 707 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: We should create a p petition, a petition to put 708 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: a strawberry atop the Wimbledon trophy. 709 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: Well, the best thing is is that you go on 710 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: the Wimbledon website and there's a thing being like the 711 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: pineapple why and it literally says, we don't know it 712 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: could have been that it was rare. You just go okay. 713 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: And we've not looked into it further. Well, that's just it. 714 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: That's just the way that has been. But similar to 715 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: why athletes wear whites that. 716 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 2: Anyway, they pineapple. But thanks for listening to do good 717 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 2: sports and iHeart production. Follow us on Instagram at two 718 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 2: Good Sports podcast. If you're watching a game show and 719 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 2: you see a fun fact, send it through. They can 720 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: hit you at anytimes, but we'll catch you next week. 721 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 2: As you can tell, we are getting very very pumped 722 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: of the games, but until then be a good sport.