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Speaker 2: This is Clezy and Lisa's podcast tell Me Up.

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Speaker 3: On the podcast, we took your calls on what you

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Speaker 3: paid for and forgot to pick up.

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Speaker 4: The man who wrote it and also started it. He

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Speaker 4: did everything. Brendan Kale talks about plumb more.

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Speaker 3: Sexual assault charges for Sean Diddy. Coombs.

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Speaker 4: Author Chris Hammer sweet Man talked about the valley and.

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Speaker 3: The end of the line for a Christmas tradition in Woodvale.

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Speaker 3: The rams bottoms and the neighbors are going Heredez sleep mask,

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Speaker 3: I'll produce a Greg told us the story yesterday that

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure I've still got my head around it.

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Speaker 5: Gregod morning, great studio. All right, take us through you.

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Speaker 5: You're outing at the markets.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Sunday morning, went to the Melville Market's like a

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Speaker 6: swap meete sort of markets. We're walking around, we come

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Speaker 6: across it looks like a log a log a log

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Speaker 6: likeg get a piece of wood and we're like, this

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Speaker 6: is great. We can put some pop plants on that

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Speaker 6: fanic on the verandah. Okay, as we get closer to it,

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Speaker 6: we realized it's a ceramic log.

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Speaker 4: It's very heavy.

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Speaker 6: So we're like, okay, this is fine. How much is it?

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Speaker 6: Ten bucks? Paved the man with the ten dollars? Can

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Speaker 6: we just leave this here? We're going to go for

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Speaker 6: a walk around. We'll pick it up on the way out.

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Speaker 6: Was like, yep, no worries put under his desk on.

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Speaker 5: It's like a log by, like a labor lay by,

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Speaker 5: log by log by.

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Speaker 6: So then we walk around the markets and then we

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Speaker 6: leave the markets, jump in the car, go to apple

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Speaker 6: Cross and have a coffee. Then we have a walk

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Speaker 6: around Applecross, and then we drove home and I'm saying

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Speaker 6: to mow the lawn, and then my partner comes out

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Speaker 6: screaming the log. We've got the log, Oh God's sake.

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Speaker 6: So then we've jumped in the canoe. The market's close

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Speaker 6: at ten.

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Speaker 4: Thirty in Melville where our perth.

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Speaker 5: Lord, you've done a lot earlier in the morning before.

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Speaker 4: You got distracted by walking around Applecross, So we do I.

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Speaker 6: Digress Marcus closed at ten thirty.

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Speaker 5: By this stage's quarter to ten.

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Speaker 6: I thought it was like five of the other and

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Speaker 6: I'm like, right, let's get back to the market.

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Speaker 5: So we get to the Markets. Get down there.

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Speaker 6: The guy's gone. Log man's gone dogs, he's gone for

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Speaker 6: the day, So we haven't.

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Speaker 5: Got our log.

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Speaker 4: You can oh no, no, And it was a really

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Speaker 4: nice log.

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Speaker 5: We really wanted it.

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Speaker 3: So two things, what did you pay for and forget

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Speaker 3: to pick up? And more importantly, I want to know

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Speaker 3: it's the log guy if anyone knows the Melville Markets

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Speaker 3: log guy. If we can please return this log?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: Owners, it's now legal owners right.

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Speaker 6: It is probably on solid when we did can come

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Speaker 6: back and told somebody else twenty.

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Speaker 3: Bucks do that, so there'll be some Logictis.

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Speaker 4: You spent all night running that? Did you ride a

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Speaker 4: captain's log?

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Speaker 5: Please?

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Speaker 1: Got anymore?

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Speaker 4: Come on now, give me a minute, squeezy.

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Speaker 5: Hang on, I'm sorry. It's the log guy on the phone. No,

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Speaker 5: get out? Is he kidding me?

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Speaker 4: He's not Linel the log guy?

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Speaker 5: Is it Lionel?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Lionel, get out of here.

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Speaker 5: You're the log you know, my.

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Speaker 4: Guy from Melbourne Markets?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I am O.

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Speaker 6: My Godel, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 5: We forgot to come and get it.

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Speaker 1: I know, and I stopped someone else. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was them and they said no, I didn't buy it.

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Speaker 4: I said, do you still have the log? I didn't

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Speaker 4: tell it to someone else.

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Speaker 6: I'm getting detail around.

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Speaker 4: Have you spent your ten bucks? Seven? Said? The boys

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Speaker 4: pay for the log with the ten dollars. You haven't

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Speaker 4: spent it, have you already?

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Speaker 5: Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: No yet, that's irrelevant Lionel to come and have a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you get a log and sort things out, but

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Speaker 3: mean yes, give us a call or text to zero

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Speaker 3: or seven sixty six ninety six ninety six?

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Speaker 5: What did you pay for and forget to pick up?

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Speaker 6: So long?

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Speaker 3: What did you pay for and forget to pick up?

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Speaker 3: Have you paid for anything and forgotten to pick it up?

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Speaker 4: No, you wouldn't, No, no, yeah, but I do know

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Speaker 4: people who've gotten laybys and forgotten ore there. Oh really

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Speaker 4: that could be a problem if you make little payments

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I've never laid by anything and forgotten.

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Speaker 5: I have it now, I don't want it three.

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Speaker 4: Years later the thing is completely out of date and

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Speaker 4: useless to them.

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Speaker 5: What did you pay for and then forgot to pick up?

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Speaker 2: Morning?

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Speaker 4: Guys?

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Speaker 5: Are you going moning?

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Speaker 4: Mate? What did you buy and paid for and didn't

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Speaker 4: pick it up? Or you forgot mate?

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Speaker 2: I was sitting there doom. Scrolling on the old phone

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Speaker 2: a little while back and saw an advertisement for Tim

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Speaker 2: Minchin's show talking about his new book and it's bike

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Speaker 2: the Little Memory, and I, very shamefaced, had to go

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Speaker 2: back and find it. Pickets that I bought for Tim

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Speaker 2: Mention show in March, and decided to surprise my war

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Speaker 2: with the tickets. So of course I didn't put them

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Speaker 2: on the calendar like we normally do in his house.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, we didn't go and see him mins.

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Speaker 5: That was a surprise.

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Speaker 4: Just disappointing.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that is disappointing because I heard it was amazing, brilliant.

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Speaker 4: Sorry Ben salt wounds, thanks man.

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Speaker 3: Something like that idea if they're not on the fridge,

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Speaker 3: did they even happen out of sight?

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Speaker 5: Johnny Como, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 7: Hey, he's going to sport.

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Speaker 5: John pick up?

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Speaker 7: What I forgot, sorry I forgot to pick up was

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Speaker 7: actually my children.

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Speaker 8: My ex and I went out for a meal one night,

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Speaker 8: got some of the babysit the kids to them around

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Speaker 8: the place, went home to the then went home after

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Speaker 7: Kid of bed and there's no one here. Hello, oh

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Speaker 7: car friends picked.

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Speaker 1: The kids up?

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Speaker 4: Were they still friends?

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Speaker 9: After that, John extended, stay, Oh easy, mistake, John, Yeah right,

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Speaker 9: beat yourself.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's there's worse for you on that one.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about when you paid for something and forgot

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Speaker 3: to pick it up. This morning, Melissa in Secret Harbor.

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Speaker 10: Hello, Hello, I forgot to pick up my wedding dress

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Speaker 10: and I forgot my final fitting. And my mom and

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Speaker 10: dad had paid for my wedding dress. This was twenty

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Speaker 10: five years ago. And then I remember on the day

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Speaker 10: that of the wedding. You know, we picked it up

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Speaker 10: a few days before, but it was the fact that

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Speaker 10: I'd forgotten to go and have my final fitting to

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Speaker 10: make sure it all fitted. My beautiful bride lady to

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Speaker 10: design my dress. She rocked up at the Old Swan

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Speaker 10: Brewery where we had photos with her needle and thread

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Speaker 10: to do the final adjustment. Yeah, wedding dress, yees because

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Speaker 10: it was slightly too big. That was brides By Design

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Speaker 10: in southberb She was fantastic, But you forgot to pick

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Speaker 10: up my wedding dress. I was just so overwhelmed.

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Speaker 5: You were thanks.

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Speaker 7: The main thing, that's all right, thank you.

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Speaker 4: That's old school and grade service, isn't it. Roll up

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Speaker 4: with a needle and thread just in case ready for pickies.

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Speaker 3: Rachel says, I forgot to collect my car when the

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Speaker 3: dealer let me.

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Speaker 5: Know the service was done.

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Speaker 3: Oh, realized at six when I went to leave work

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Speaker 3: cardinal keys to my house else to let me in.

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Speaker 5: Not a good thing to forget.

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Speaker 4: No, not ideal, But we did get the strengthen in life,

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Speaker 4: an't we? What did you pay for and then forget

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Speaker 4: to pick it up? Devin Dune Craig morning.

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Speaker 11: Hi here are you going good?

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Speaker 5: What did you pay for? And forget to pick up

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Speaker 5: our concert tickets?

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Speaker 11: Just like the mentioned guy, really were read hot summer

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Speaker 11: and I was back in March, and I didn't actually

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Speaker 11: realize until I was sitting at home that evening going

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Speaker 11: through Facebook seeing all there, and I thought, oh, I

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Speaker 11: think I had tickets to that.

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Speaker 1: Three hundred dollars tickets you meet drinking wine.

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Speaker 11: So yeah, I've readjusted the way I do my tickets, singing.

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Speaker 4: Out shut down Facebook after you realized?

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Speaker 1: Did see I had all.

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Speaker 11: This pomo for the rest of the night.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, thanks dav.

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Speaker 4: More Clesing more Lisa More podcast soon.

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Speaker 3: Chris Hammer is joining us now. Chris, good morning, Welcome.

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Speaker 12: Chris, good morning, lovely to be here.

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Speaker 3: Is the author of books like Scrublands and Silver and

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Speaker 3: the Till, and your new book is The Valley, which

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Speaker 3: is the fourth book in and if you know, you

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Speaker 3: know the Ivan Lukitchen and Nel Buchanan series. I would

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Speaker 3: say this series is like particularly dark, would you?

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Speaker 12: Oh, there's always occasionally goes to dark places. Usually the

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Speaker 12: it's crime fiction, so.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 12: Apart from that.

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Speaker 5: What's your background, Chris, you were a journalist, weren't you

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Speaker 5: before you or when you're also writing books?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I was a journal for like thirty years. I

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Speaker 12: like you split pretty much between covering federal politics in

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Speaker 12: Canberra in the press gallery. Yeah, and I had two

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Speaker 12: long stints as a kind of roving foreign correspondent for SBS,

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Speaker 12: so I went to some really amazing places and sort

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Speaker 12: of amazing things. Absolutely loved being a journal I loved

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Speaker 12: that career.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But I love this more. Yeah. I bet this's a

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Speaker 4: bit more fun than Budget Day, wouldn't I locked away

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Speaker 4: book and.

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Speaker 12: You can who knew it was so liberating just to

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Speaker 12: make stuff up exactly.

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Speaker 3: I would have thought you would have said a crime

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Speaker 3: reporter rather than but I mean politics very similar. I

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Speaker 3: guess where do you get the inspiration for the plots

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Speaker 3: in your stories?

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 12: Sometimes young people ask me and I think back and

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Speaker 12: I can unpack it. So for example, in Scrublands, my

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Speaker 12: first book, the protagonist is a journal that box and

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Speaker 12: he goes to this really remote town to do a

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Speaker 12: so called anniversary story a year after a terrible event.

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Speaker 12: I realized afterwards, after I've written a book, I had

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Speaker 12: actually done a story like that in a little town

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Speaker 12: in East Texas called Jasper, where some white extremists had

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Speaker 12: killed an African American man and I'd gone there to

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Speaker 3: Plum starts eight thirty this Sunday on the ABC. Brendan

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Speaker 5: Good morning Brandon, Good morning everybody.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: Tell us about Plum. It's based on your novel of

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Speaker 3: It's a real demp Swaterman moment.

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Speaker 1: It's somewhere between nepotism knows no bounds and multi skilling.

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Speaker 1: wife is still very much in his in his world

449
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: and everything's kind of He has beers with the boys

450
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: after training and kicks the ball with his son, but

451
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 1: he worked at the airport and then he has an

452
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: accident at the airport. He has an epileptic fit, finds

453
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: out that he's got a brain injury as the result

454
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: of the thousand concussions he took on the field, and

455
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: that if he doesn't do something about it, you know,

456
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: he could face die consequences. And so that's the thing

457
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 1: I was most interested in, really is about a man

458
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: trying to communicate, you know, as a dramatist. That's why

459
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: I kind of lay my scene. How does he tell

460
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: his son and his girlfriend. How does he share the

461
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: fact that he's now scared of something.

462
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I found it's multi land too, especially for the

463
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 4: sports people who've you know, you talk about their brain injuries.

464
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 4: You talk about one day they're making six hundred grand

465
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 4: and they're making bugger all and they've also been in

466
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 4: a footy squad looked after by a football club for

467
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 4: a long long time, and they're in the real world.

468
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 4: So there are lots of elements there for you to tackle,

469
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Speaker 4: so to speak.

470
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really good point, and it is true.

471
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 1: It's almost like you leave school and you go into

472
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Speaker 1: another institution where they feed you and they clothe you,

473
00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: and you have people looking after you, and you're also lauded.

474
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: You know, you're told you're the king and you're the greatest.

475
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, if you're not one

476
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: of the lucky ones that walk straight up to the

477
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 1: commentary box in a blazer, you can be less gone ship.

478
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: And also, your body has just been going so hard

479
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: for a couple of decades. What does your body do?

480
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: And it's all about identity, you know, what is your

481
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: identity now? And and you know, add a little bit

482
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Speaker 1: of a possible illness coming for you. It's a scary time.

483
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Speaker 3: I'm really glad actually that you're putting this in the spotlight.

484
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 5: This CCE, isn't it? I can't say.

485
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: Thetu it because it's not much is known about it.

486
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 5: Isn't don't they say? You don't even You can't.

487
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Speaker 3: Be sure if you actually were suffering from it until

488
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Speaker 3: after you've died.

489
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, it's hard to kind of get into the

490
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Speaker 1: brain while while walking around. But there's a thing called TEES,

491
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: which is traumatic encephalopothy syndrome. So you know, it's pretty

492
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: obvious at some blow. Especially Peter the plum Lam in

493
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: my story. You know, he's he's ticking ninety seven percent

494
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: in the quick So do you have it?

495
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 12: You know what I mean?

496
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: So if you're showing all those symptoms and you played

497
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Speaker 1: a collision sport and you played it hard as possible

498
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: and you probably drank as hard off the field and

499
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: got in a few pub fights and bumped ahead in

500
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: Thailand or whatever, then I'd say it's coming for you.

501
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 5: And you never said out loud of suffering or struggling.

502
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you just push it down with the beers.

503
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: And also because Peter the plumb Lum, his dad's you know,

504
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: his dad's mancha was never take a backward step, and

505
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: that's how he became a champion. Never take a backward step.

506
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: And he learns that if you want to grow in

507
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: life and you want to change, you've got to take

508
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: a backward step. You know, you've got to stop turn

509
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: around what's going on? And Peter the Plumlum ends up

510
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: working in security at a bar and there's a poetry

511
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: night and he starts getting horn by these dead poets

512
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: visiting him, and he starts like this girl who's bound

513
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: to a wheelchair. She gives him a book and says,

514
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: right a poem. You're creative. He goes, I'm not creat

515
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm on footy players. She goes, Creativity is a state

516
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: of mind. You know, you are creative on the field.

517
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: You can be creative with your kids, you can be

518
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: creative exactly. Creativity is just how you approach things. And

519
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: he starts writing out his feelings and writing them down,

520
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: and the world starts to make a lot of sense

521
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: to him, and it starts to heal his brain. So

522
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: it's kind of about creativity and men finding a way

523
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: not to talk to each other, to talk to himself

524
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: and to find out how you feel.

525
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Speaker 3: It is tough because they're kind of It's a classic

526
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 3: case of a man straddling two worlds too, because it's

527
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: hard to break that habit of what your dad said

528
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 3: when you're plum and then you know, moving into a

529
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: new space. How is reuniting with Ashaketti? Of course I

530
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 3: loved Love my Way and you guys on that, so

531
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 3: this has got to be good.

532
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. I think it's pretty much. Twenty years later,

533
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: Asha and I were wandering around the set going we

534
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: still got it, and we still got it. We still

535
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: got it.

536
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 4: I still got it.

537
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: Now we've been looking for something for a long time

538
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: to do together. We kind of admire each other from

539
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: Afar with filmmates, and we nearly, you know, a few

540
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: nearly came up. And then when she read the book

541
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: and loved it and gave me a quote for the

542
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: book that we kind of started talking and it was

543
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: just amazing. It was just like this is this feels right.

544
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: And when Ash comes onto your show, you know you've

545
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: got a big adult TV show.

546
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 4: On your hands, you know what I mean, take it up.

547
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 5: Not yeah, people say the same thing.

548
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, she's she's just such a such a

549
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: team player. You know, she came on and she's a

550
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: show runner. She's made a few shows herself, so she

551
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: just came in and really helped me. You know, let's go,

552
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: let's do this, and she's, yeah, she's amazing for me. Yeah,

553
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: I was so grateful.

554
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 4: Brandon, at the risk of handy a bit sick of

555
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 4: had congratulations on what you did in the twelve series

556
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 4: one mate, I mean speaking about folks struggling, I mean,

557
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 4: you just know there's someone's perfection, that one that was unreal.

558
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 4: He must have enjoyed that experience. He was a struggler,

559
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 4: wasn't he?

560
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: Well, yeah he was Gary. Yeah, I mean, gambling addiction

561
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: is real and compulsive, and he's just show it was

562
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: a really what I really wanted to show is that

563
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys who do bad things aren't

564
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: bad people, you know what I mean. And Gary's got

565
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: this big heart and he really wanted to help Brooks

566
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: Satchell's character, but he just you know, he's incorrigible. And

567
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: you know, I seem to get a lot of those

568
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: kind of smoke garries under bridges and stuff like that.

569
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: That seems to be my realm. But yeah, he was

570
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: a gift. And I'm hoping if I ever get called

571
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: for jury duty, I could say, mate, I've done it.

572
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I done it.

573
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: Check it out. It's binge, I done it.

574
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 4: Coming in.

575
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 5: You mentioned nepotism. Your mom's got a roll.

576
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah she she she kind of Hollywood strong armed

577
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: away in the calf and she just she just told

578
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: me she was in it. And yes, no, she She's

579
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: been any kind of everything I've done, and she's my

580
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: I guess, my number one supporter. Like I just finished

581
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: her third novel. She read it in two days and

582
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: called me and gave me some notes, you know. And

583
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: she's a retired nurse but very eccentric woman, and so

584
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: I thought her, Am I going to have him? I

585
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: need an old woman.

586
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 5: In the club.

587
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: And I thought, yeah, was she just we just had

588
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: Edie's eightieth, you know, she qualifies, but I thought, we're

589
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: giving her. We gave her a pink mohawk, yes, to

590
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: make her a punk, and she really rocked it, you know,

591
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: it was great. Yeah, so this could be it for

592
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: this could be you know, this could really trampoline mam.

593
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 9: We'll work for Jackie Weaver, you know, like exactly as

594
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 9: long as.

595
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 4: The mohawk look didn't look like a budget look like

596
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: a punk, that's what you want. Yeah, you'd be the judgment. Yeah, yeah,

597
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 4: but I just want to know. I just came back

598
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: to the talking about former sports stars, especially footballers in

599
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: whatever code with the brain injury thing. Did you see

600
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 4: Angus Brayshaw, former Melbourne player, at the Brownlow Medal and

601
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 4: the way he spoke with such honesty, there was no

602
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 4: gloss over what he's gone through. It worth a lot.

603
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: No, I did not, but I might look at this.

604
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm probably to a fault. I don't acknowledge AFL enough,

605
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: but I am going to Melbourne today, so yeah, probably time.

606
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've seen that AFL for a long time.

607
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: Didn't really want to acknowledge CTA. Then now they're really

608
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: I reckon. You can see in the way the tackles

609
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: are so surprising that that's definitely, you know, possible in

610
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: that sport. So I'll have a look.

611
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 4: Thanks for the reminder, it's worth a look at the speech.

612
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have they really have held off. I remember

613
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: watching an interview with Greg Williams. You know they'll player

614
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: ages ago and now they're finally talking about.

615
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 5: It more well.

616
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: Plump starts eight thirty this Sunday on the ABC and

617
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Speaker 3: of course ABC I view.

618
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Speaker 5: Brendan cow lovely to chat to you this morning.

619
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Speaker 1: Thanks man, thanks to your honesty, No, thanks for having

620
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: me on and yeah a thirty Sunday check it out.

621
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Speaker 4: Thank you all the best. The Sure Report on ninety

622
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Speaker 4: six am.

623
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Speaker 3: More sexual assault lawsuits filed today against Sewan did He Koombs.

624
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: Did He has been named in six more separate lawsuits

625
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: filed by Tony Busby. The Texas attorney says he's representing

626
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: up to one hundred and twenty alleged victims. The most

627
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: recent ones are mostly male accusers. Meantime, Carneo West is

628
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: being sued for sexual assault by a former personal assistant,

629
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: and she's alleging the assault took place at a recording

630
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: studio session co hosted by Sean Diddy. Coombs, Hugh Jackman,

631
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: and Kate Hudson are going to play a married couple

632
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: who form a Neil Diamond tribute band in an upcoming

633
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: musical called Song Sung Blue.

634
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 5: It's a True Story.

635
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: The film is based on the two thousand and eight

636
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: documentary of the same name.

637
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 5: It follows the story of.

638
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: Milwaukee couple Mike and Claire Sardina, down on their luck

639
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: musicians who become local icons by performing as Lightning and Thunder.

640
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: Jim Belushi and Michael Imperioli are also in the cast.

641
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: I'm Intrigued, Good Lord, a new Beatles documentary produced by

642
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: Martin Scorsese.

643
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 5: He's got to get Him, He's got to have his

644
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 5: finger in the.

645
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: Pie, capturing the band's nineteen sixty four introduction to the US,

646
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: is going to be released on Disney Plus on November

647
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: twenty nine, Called Beatles sixty four. It follows the Beatles

648
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: first visit to America. An official description for the film

649
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 3: teasers never before seen footage.

650
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 5: Or doesn't it always?

651
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 4: Have we seen it?

652
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: Then you've got nothing really on the four and their fans.

653
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: Before playing to seventy three million viewers on The Ed

654
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: Sullivan Show TV viewers, they didn't fit that many people

655
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: in the studio.

656
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: Not quite.

657
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 3: And the Joker sequel is breaking box office records for

658
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: all the wrong reasons.

659
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 5: It's not doing well.

660
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: It took just one hundred and twenty one million dollars

661
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: globally in its first week. This past week, Candid added

662
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: just another twenty two million. It needs at least four

663
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million just to break even. Not looking

664
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Speaker 3: good on that front.

665
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying good reviews.

666
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Speaker 5: Ow folly end doll.

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Speaker 4: Last time was so damned good.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was wow.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's me whiteing for it to come on the.

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Speaker 4: Telly and have your opinion.

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Speaker 5: Then crazy A Liisa ninety six