WEBVTT - When the goal posts keep moving - Uncut with Tony Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and I'll welcome back to another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut. I'm Brittany and I'm here today with a

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<v Speaker 1>super famous Dancing with the Stars contestant, Laura Bird.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi everybody, Hi, I am a dancer.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's what I do. I dance and night's all

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<v Speaker 1>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I dance from the minute I wake up in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>I danced until the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 1>I dance around the office. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>making time. Thank you to coming to the podcast today.

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<v Speaker 1>You are so look.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I did have to stop my very busy

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<v Speaker 2>dancing schedule to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the announcement's out, so this is obviously a Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>This is dropping. But last Thursday it came to light

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<v Speaker 1>that you have not been doing Ninja Warrior, but you

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<v Speaker 1>having fact been training very hard for Dancing with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 2>To be fair, there was a part of me that

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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit like, oh, Ninja Warrior would be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah, you wouldn't last a day. No, I wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>last the first hurdle.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't even make it over the first jump over

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<v Speaker 2>the phone pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen that videos of like seven, three or

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<v Speaker 1>four or five year old kids that are running and

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<v Speaker 1>doing hurdles, and the video is like, watch this seven

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<v Speaker 1>times and look at a different kid every time. And

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<v Speaker 1>have you seen it? They start running in they're all

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<v Speaker 1>tripping over. That's you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you would be like. No, but now we

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<v Speaker 2>need to find that and put it ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll find it. Everyone's gonna be like what I will find.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so funny, and I promise you will watch

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<v Speaker 1>this video and repeat a hundred times. Well that's just me.

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<v Speaker 2>But at dancing that was my saying. Oh, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>we thought we were saying it Ninja Warrior. No, if

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<v Speaker 2>you did Ninja Warrior.

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<v Speaker 1>That would have been you. But I think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be really good at dancing with the stuff. No you

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<v Speaker 1>die Sean and video snips. You are sexy, little premanded.

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<v Speaker 1>I have gotten pretty fit. That's the one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>So we I don't even know what to start so

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<v Speaker 2>much dance from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>How could I even put into words what I've been doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone you all know that I've been bred crumbing, that

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<v Speaker 2>I've been training for something like the last five weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of signed up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was five, Yeah, It must have been

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<v Speaker 2>five weeks ago, just before we went away to rock Hampton.

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<v Speaker 2>I was dancing in the garage in rock Hampton because

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<v Speaker 2>I just learnt the first few steps of the jive.

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<v Speaker 2>So doing like an absolute dog's breakfast of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, at least you've got Matt at home to train with,

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<v Speaker 1>because if people might not remember them two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>three years ago, Matt did Dancing with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, no, no, he's not training with me unfortunately. No,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like the dancing widow. Now he's got the kids

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four to seven. So you know, when Matt did

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<v Speaker 2>it two years ago and Lola was a newborn, if

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<v Speaker 2>I was home with the kids and he was leaving

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<v Speaker 2>for like eight hour training days. This is payback because

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<v Speaker 2>he at the moment has been having to do the

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<v Speaker 2>lion's share of the parenting whilst I'm off being twinkletoes.

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<v Speaker 1>Whilst you're off getting down and jiggy with it. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, that's wrong, You're not getting down getting jiggy.

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<v Speaker 2>And also like we have to be so careful because

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's gonna be like, oh, what's happening with Laura's dance partner,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on there?

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<v Speaker 1>It is always a bit of a vibe, not with you,

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<v Speaker 1>but a vibe and a theme with Dancing the Stars,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. I think it's more in the American series,

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<v Speaker 1>But there's always like this contraver of an affair, or

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<v Speaker 1>someone hooks up with someone, or there's so much chemistry

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<v Speaker 1>on stage it has to be real.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to have it on the record that

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<v Speaker 2>my dance partner pot.

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<v Speaker 1>Contradance my da dance Neil My. Your dance partner's name

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<v Speaker 1>is Danil.

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<v Speaker 2>My dance partner, Danil is almost two decades younger than me.

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<v Speaker 2>So apart from the fast food is here, he's six.

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<v Speaker 3>Sixteen. You can't do that moves at sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>He's twenty one. He's twenty one, so hit sixteen years

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<v Speaker 1>younger than me.

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<v Speaker 2>So I could have literally given birthday hand. Not that

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<v Speaker 2>there would ever even if it was Jason Momoa, like,

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<v Speaker 2>there would never be a thing like I I adore my.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Matt too much. It's not that just doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>even enter my psyche, but the fact that he's so young.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt was like, thank God, you're partner with him. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even have to worry about your rubbing your body

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<v Speaker 2>up and down him all day, so you have to

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<v Speaker 2>pick him up from school on the training I picked

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<v Speaker 2>him up from tafe and then I take him to

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<v Speaker 2>training because he can't drive yet.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he's gonna listen to this and be like, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know. We're so lovely, You're great. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>taking the piss he's I've met him. He's lovely. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a lovely dance partner.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is his first season doing Dancing with the Stars,

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<v Speaker 2>but the dancing verg Yeah, he's a dancing version. He's

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<v Speaker 2>never ever danced before. No, He's like he's like Australian champion.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like some crazy award winning multi Accolade dance person.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got the fire in his belly, doesn't he Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so much confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you said to him, how do you think

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna go, He's like, oh yeah, We're gonna win

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<v Speaker 2>a mirror Ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, you haven in mid dance yet he has. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a snippet, a tiny little snippet, because I

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<v Speaker 1>peeked in on one of your sessions.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was because I text you SA same

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<v Speaker 2>same same.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys actually look really good. Well, We're going produce

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<v Speaker 1>a Keisha and I are going some of the radio

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<v Speaker 1>crew are going, we're gonna go to your first night

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<v Speaker 1>to cheer you on. And I'm gonna take my own

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<v Speaker 1>scorecard and like just write a tin on it.

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<v Speaker 2>And if Todd mckennie gives me like a four, just

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<v Speaker 2>hold the ten over the top of it, be like.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck your DoD. I'll be that person, you know how.

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<v Speaker 1>I when you're at the football and someone runs on

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<v Speaker 1>streaking and like everyone runs around trying to catch them,

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<v Speaker 1>that's me. I'll be running around with the scorecard and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's like, get her off with your face melting off.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping my face isn't melting off by that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, as you guys know, BRIT's been doing the

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<v Speaker 2>skin cancer treatment. But she arrived today and she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think my eyelashes have been seated off.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I could laugh harder.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true they have. They're gone, mainly the bottom ones.

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<v Speaker 1>But a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Your face looks so ball at the moment, very crusty,

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<v Speaker 2>very bald, do you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>No, But well, I'm just thinking a way to say

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<v Speaker 1>it because I am very, very proud to be posting

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<v Speaker 1>on like my face bit and what's happening. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not worried about my looks in the sense of what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening at the moment, because I know it's for a

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<v Speaker 1>good cause. But this morning I did look in the

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<v Speaker 1>mirror and I was like, wow, I just hate myself

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<v Speaker 1>right now because my eyelashes and my face is so

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<v Speaker 1>swollen and you look at stopping this is what we're

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<v Speaker 1>working with today. Okay, yeah, it's really cracked and scabby

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<v Speaker 1>and it's painful. And once I've realized that some of

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<v Speaker 1>the lashes are gone, it was a real life point

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I actually just I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still rocking. I'm still living my life like normals, still

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<v Speaker 1>coming to work, and I don't care enough to like

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<v Speaker 1>hide away like a witch. But this morning I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>looked at myself and I was like, Okay, it's three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks deep and I don't want to look at myself

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<v Speaker 1>in a mirror at the moment, but I know we're

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<v Speaker 1>in a week or two it'll be better. But I

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<v Speaker 1>I hate myself right now. We laugh about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you look beautiful. Stop it. We can laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we will be peop laughing, are gone at you,

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<v Speaker 2>but like you look beautiful, and also you should be

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<v Speaker 2>so proud of because I think a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, especially when it's your face, like it's so

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<v Speaker 2>easy to be embarrassed and then to be like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to share this, but I'm so proud of

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<v Speaker 2>you for sharing it and for putting all the photos

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<v Speaker 2>up there, like you know, the good, the bad, and

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<v Speaker 2>that not as beautiful as what you know normally you

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<v Speaker 2>would look like, but I'm so glad that you're sharing

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<v Speaker 2>all parts of it because the visibility is so important,

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<v Speaker 2>and we all know that the conversations around skin cancer

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<v Speaker 2>is so important. So as much as we take the

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<v Speaker 2>piss out of you now, i'm very very proud if he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of myself, but it's yeah, the truth is, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to ak myself right now. But on

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<v Speaker 1>a more serious note, if anyone actually has recommendations for

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<v Speaker 1>a LASH serum that works, like none of it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's so much stuff that doesn't work, but like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got no extensions, I have pointy little finger. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>burnt off by this chemo cream because I think I

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<v Speaker 1>want a bit hectic under the eyes. I need a

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<v Speaker 1>good lash serum. I need these to grow.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you actually think that stuff works, the chemo or the.

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<v Speaker 1>Lash the lash serum apparently, yeah, you don't know. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a question.

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<v Speaker 2>If it works so well, then why can't ball people

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<v Speaker 2>just shove it all over their head and grow hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Keisha's she's literally in the background, like in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like me, I mean, oh, that's grim.

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<v Speaker 2>Keisha just said that there's studies that have come out

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<v Speaker 2>to say that lash serum has made some people go blind.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're not promoting it. What you're saying is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna have lashes again. No, their crawback soon, babe.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Cycle? Yeah yeah yeah, Nick Cycle a period.

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<v Speaker 2>Doy Okay, look back to Dancing with the Stars for

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<v Speaker 2>two seconds and then we can move on to other

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<v Speaker 2>more important things.

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<v Speaker 1>Stand to the Star.

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<v Speaker 2>We are pre recording this episode, like the intro of

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<v Speaker 2>this episode, so this is we're doing this on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Normally we keep our interests fresh, we do it on

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<v Speaker 2>the Monday morning. It comes out on the Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>But Laura's are really high and superstar now, so we

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<v Speaker 1>have to try and fit into her sketch.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm a dancer, no god if you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>she's a glitterable I am after the mirror ball. My

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<v Speaker 2>very first colm is Tuesday night, So if you're listening

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<v Speaker 2>to this on the day that this drops, I will

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<v Speaker 2>be somewhere dancing the drive at in Homebush. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's being filmed. Do you feel petrified? Okay, great, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was I was gonna say nervous, but Petrifried's a great term.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think I've ever been so scared in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And what about are you scared about not doing the dance? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're scared about being voted out first, you're scared about

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<v Speaker 1>doing it in front of people.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Like, what's the I really don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be voted out first because that's just embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 3>At least second can run the batch.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I went on The Bachelor, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as I'm not the first, if I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>the second.

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<v Speaker 2>Night, somewhere in the middle, so I can hide amongst it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm okay with being average. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be really really bad, So first would probably be

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<v Speaker 2>a bit disappointing, but you know what, if it ends

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<v Speaker 2>up being first.

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<v Speaker 1>We can all laugh about it in a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks time. There's no way you're first. I've seen your moves. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I could be.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm up against like Paulini and Bloody Pa. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>remember what was that movie that were you all Alabrand

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<v Speaker 2>looking for Ala Brandy. I saw her the other day

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<v Speaker 2>and then I got like you know when you see

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<v Speaker 2>a celebrity in real life and you get a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of like starstruck.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, it's peare I watched

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<v Speaker 1>your movie in school. I watched it when I was

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<v Speaker 1>like sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>She also looks exactly the same, like she hasn't aged

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really weird. I thought that when I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the cast photos, like only fifty, how do you look

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<v Speaker 1>like you're still twenty five? Is she now? No idea?

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<v Speaker 1>She's probably gonna listen to this and like, I'm thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>She was quite young when she filmed that. Well she

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be at school. Yeah, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>s you can be thirty film school. Okay, after this

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<v Speaker 1>face peel, I reckon, I can play like a ten

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<v Speaker 1>year old any cartin agents out there, I have just

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<v Speaker 1>extended my age range.

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<v Speaker 2>So Tuesday night we've got the competition. That'll be my

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<v Speaker 2>first one, and I'm dancing the jive.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's the super fun really fast.

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<v Speaker 2>So the reason why I'm nervous is not because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not so much nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>That I'm gonna get out first.

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<v Speaker 2>If it happens, it happens, there's not much I can

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<v Speaker 2>do about it except dance better.

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<v Speaker 1>But no blame an injury if you're out first. Say

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<v Speaker 1>I have rolled my ankle always, Yeah, it's not you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not the ability, it's something there was something

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<v Speaker 2>sort of hurdle I had to overcome. No, the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why I'm nervous is because I have to think so

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<v Speaker 2>much about the steps because the steps are so fast,

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas if I make a mistake in the jive, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no time to make get up. Yeah, So it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the mistakes are so obvious, whereas if you make a

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<v Speaker 2>mistake in a slower dance, you can just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like do something with your arm, make it look like

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. So if I had a waltz or

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<v Speaker 2>something first, I think I would be better off. And

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<v Speaker 2>everyone keep saying like, oh God, it must be so

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<v Speaker 2>good to learn a new skill, and I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, it is, but I'll probably never use the jive again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say it's not really a transferable skill. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're out at a nightclub high kicks. Sorry, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>out at a nightclub maybe last time you went to

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<v Speaker 1>a nightclub, I reckon one day, I've got nightclubbing in

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<v Speaker 1>me again. You know what you do. And I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to say this probably not necessary for the pod. But

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<v Speaker 1>Ben is coming in three weeks and he's made a request.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to go to a nightclub.

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<v Speaker 1>He's requested that all of our group of friends go

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<v Speaker 1>out for drinks. And then he's like, maybe we could

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<v Speaker 1>go to a club. And I didn't have the heart

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<v Speaker 1>to tell him that we're all eighty year old. Inside,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, sure, babes, I'll get the group.

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<v Speaker 3>Together for the club. In my head, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>did you even know where the club is anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do people go?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you realize at that point in time that you

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<v Speaker 2>were dating a twenty year old?

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<v Speaker 1>You were like, oh my god, that's right. My boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty No, he's thirty one, but he just I

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<v Speaker 1>guess he's probably normal. We are just not We're like

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<v Speaker 1>old salt. We're all old solt.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think we're normal. I just have two kids

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<v Speaker 2>and I just drink rose at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Produce a Kisha might I was trying to do the math,

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<v Speaker 1>ask her where to go? Well, yeah, produce the cause

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<v Speaker 1>you might know. But what I was going to say

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<v Speaker 1>is I was doing the math. I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll book us all a restaurant, and I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>the math of who could come, and I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>the partners. And then I was like, looks like Kesha

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<v Speaker 1>might have a partner now, so I added a plus

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<v Speaker 1>one in for the new potential. We're not sure yet

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<v Speaker 1>because we have knowd the conversation. I'm sorry, are we

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this on the podcast? Well, obviously Laura hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>listened to Thursday's episode that I didn't listen. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>so busy, dare thing. I didn't even listen to my

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<v Speaker 1>own pocket. Oh my god, no racial announcements all around.

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<v Speaker 1>We sort of announced it, but we didn't. The conversation

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<v Speaker 1>is Laura, you could actually chime in on this. Laura

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<v Speaker 1>is not biased because she doesn't know the conversation. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have? I really should listen to my own podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have to have the conversation. When you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship and you're dating Dereck, you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation that you're exclusive or not or is it

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<v Speaker 1>implied slash.

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<v Speaker 2>I've learned from experience it is never fucking implied. It

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<v Speaker 2>is never implied. If you think it's implied at someone

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<v Speaker 2>out of the two.

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<v Speaker 1>Of them still and I've left that the hard way.

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<v Speaker 1>Mena dam never implied. That was exactly what my commas

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<v Speaker 1>never but he She's like, I think it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it is what it is, And I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. No communication is key.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's not go with snoke signals when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>fidelity and monogamy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just ask the question.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know why people don't want to ask the

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<v Speaker 2>question because they're scared of the answer. That's why people

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<v Speaker 2>don't like to say are we exclusive? For fear of

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that you're not exclusive and the answer being no.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think some people have a fear of maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're more on board than the other person is. So

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes people are like, I don't want to do it first.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say, hey, do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go steady? If they're like, I'm still rock on the boat,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or my analogies are on file, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Rocking the boat just mean like you're getting in trouble,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're making.

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<v Speaker 1>Pressure to do an opposite of steady, and it was rocking.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where my brain went. So basically, what I meant

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<v Speaker 1>is like one person might be more ready than the other,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that sometimes that's why people get scared

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<v Speaker 1>of having the convoy. But Keisha's got a hand up

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<v Speaker 1>in the corner. You don't have to put your hand up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because Keish doesn't have a microphone at the moment.

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<v Speaker 5>Come on it, okay, pollar opposite foot and I've got

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of messages about this after episode went live

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<v Speaker 5>on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad that someone listened to it.

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<v Speaker 4>That was.

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<v Speaker 5>When you said, like you have to have the conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>That's because you dated trash people.

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<v Speaker 1>I've also dated trash people where I've felt the need

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<v Speaker 1>to have the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I didn't realize that they were trash until until

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<v Speaker 2>a year later when I thought we were exclusive and

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<v Speaker 2>we weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>She assumed exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>And in the past I've been exactly the same where

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<v Speaker 5>I've been like, no, I have to have the conversation

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<v Speaker 5>because otherwise you might be fucking someone else. And I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know about it this time. I don't have any

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<v Speaker 5>anxiety about it, Like I just it is what it is,

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<v Speaker 5>and like I don't have any insecurities about where I stand,

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<v Speaker 5>Like I'm calling him, I'm calling him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask.

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<v Speaker 2>Him if he's your boyfriend. Must be nice, Must be nice. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what they say, assume is it? Assume makes

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<v Speaker 2>an ass of you and me? Something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's today's social video.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you and Matt have to have the conversation after

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<v Speaker 3>the batch?

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<v Speaker 2>We literally had the conversation on TV, on National TV,

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<v Speaker 2>in front of everyone. It was the most solidifying moment

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<v Speaker 2>of my life because I was like, you can't back

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<v Speaker 2>out of this one, motherfucker. Can I tell you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't say you didn't know that we have in

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<v Speaker 2>a monogamous relationship after this one, like all the exes did.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you? Yeah? I mean it also can just be cute.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just literally be like, okay, mother friend, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so don't do that. I think so funny what I

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<v Speaker 1>did one time, You're gonna die. You were going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Rap dad levitating up to the sky. This is in

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. As I'm saying, this is a part of me.

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<v Speaker 1>That is my internal monologue is like, stop at Brittany,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not going to tell you anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Please please, I will tell you to stop like a eyebrows,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean eyelashes all the back.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait all I can think. I literally looked in the

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<v Speaker 1>mirror this morning. I was like, thank god I locked

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<v Speaker 1>Ben down when I did like a giant thumb. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>just like your trashy ex boyfriends. What I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say is I was dating this guy a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and I quite liked him, and we had

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<v Speaker 1>had a history, like we'd known each other for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, but don't ever known each other as friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to think I'm pretty like cute in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of like I'm a romantic and I like to do

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<v Speaker 1>cute things. So we were sort of seeing each other

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<v Speaker 1>and Keisha, this is a really good for you to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to. We've been seeing each other to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where I was and we talked all the time on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. He was a decent guy. He wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>shit guy at all. He was really nice. He's still

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<v Speaker 1>to this day is. But I was like, oh, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>this is where this is going, like, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote him a I wrote him one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things pack a day. Really sick for a week. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I've been really sick for weeks, and I'm because

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot I did this. I wrote him like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I got this piece of paper and I wrote at

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<v Speaker 1>the top and you know those like where you ask

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<v Speaker 1>a question and then it splits it's yes no, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you do a line and it splits, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you ask another question is yes no, and it goes yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a trick. It's a question tree that goes

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<v Speaker 1>down the page. I did this whole amazing tree and

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<v Speaker 1>it was so in depth and it was so cute,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the bottom it was to get to like

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<v Speaker 1>will you be my boyfriend? Kind of thing, like do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go steady? And I just thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be an obvious yes, and I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was a cute way to do it. Anyway, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a no. I'm still the day feel so awward thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it. The good part was he didn't he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do the tree circle, no one send it back to me.

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<v Speaker 1>He just called me it's like we need to have

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation and bless and I was like, oh, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I really misread the room. He's like, but that was

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<v Speaker 1>really a cute thing, and I appreciate he was so great.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like it was really sweet, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>totally fine, I do that to everyone. You're like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>pretend it never happened. But he was like, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>not ready for a relationship. But like standard sydneyman, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, but you're ready to continue to keep sleeping with

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<v Speaker 2>me and treat me like I'm your girlfriend. That would

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<v Speaker 2>be great. Let's do that the next year until you

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<v Speaker 2>find someone better.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we did it like one more time and

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<v Speaker 1>then we both were like cool.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is when it is about you tell me

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<v Speaker 2>that you're not ready for a relationship until you start

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<v Speaker 2>dating someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>In a month, you got married and had a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>He got married, not a kid.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh live on air right now, Keisha's current boyfriend that

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<v Speaker 6>we don't know just message her and said are we

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<v Speaker 6>having the conversation, which means he listened to Thursday's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, can you respond right now and say

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<v Speaker 1>do we need to? No, say do we need to

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<v Speaker 1>or is it assumed? Can you please? This is live content.

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<v Speaker 1>Keisha's getting a boyfriend live on air? Do it for

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<v Speaker 1>the team? Keisha?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, by it?

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<v Speaker 1>No, that was too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty anyway, let's mine your life. Let's mine your life

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<v Speaker 2>for as much content as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Geisha, you bulled in. You don't get paid enough. He

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<v Speaker 1>should send him a photo of what's happening right now

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<v Speaker 1>and say we're talking about right now, record.

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<v Speaker 2>Us and we'll ask him for you just video and

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<v Speaker 2>you can send in the video.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Hello, hello, potential boyfriend. Hi, his name's Toddler and

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Toddler. Rumor has it you must have heard the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation that Keisha and I had Onday's episode of Life Uncut,

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<v Speaker 1>because you did just message Keisha and ask if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys need to have the conversation. And the question is

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<v Speaker 1>do you think you need to have the conversation or

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it is assumed? And if it's assumed,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we assuming? Yeah? Yeah, can't wait for the answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Ha or he Welcome to the Life on Cut family.

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<v Speaker 2>Men must be so scared to enter this little world

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<v Speaker 2>of ours because like they know, all men know, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm lucky because Matt's locked in he already. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he shares enough of our bloody sex life on his

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<v Speaker 2>podcast now too. It's double whammy. But he's got four

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<v Speaker 2>years to make up for it and get back at me.

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<v Speaker 2>But like for you guys over the years, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>bring a man into the chaos that is us sharing

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<v Speaker 2>our life as podcast content, truly would be petrifying for

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<v Speaker 2>some man.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, You're lucky that Matt's quite well, he

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<v Speaker 1>is not quite. He's very open and he's very in

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<v Speaker 1>the media, and he loves that kind of a life.

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<v Speaker 1>But like the people I've dated or all very opposite,

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<v Speaker 1>they're very shy and they're very quiet. This is like,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine if you were a shy, quiet person coming into

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of a life.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally, it makes it very challenging to date. And I

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<v Speaker 2>know that because I know you've spoken about it loads before,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that for a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 2>we've interviewed who live public lives.

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<v Speaker 1>I know when I say public lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, we don't share everything about our lives on

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast, but we share things that might make other

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<v Speaker 2>people feel uncomfortable or awkward. You know, we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>sex and then some people would think, oh God, I

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<v Speaker 2>could never talk about that in an open setting.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we also felt like that once time I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk and then the dial it just shifts over time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then here we are and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>daily mails writing articles that the headline is Laura's big

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<v Speaker 1>fat Harry.

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<v Speaker 2>Vagina, and I'm fine with it anyway. We'll come back

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<v Speaker 2>to Keisha and whether she has a boyfriend or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of sharing too much and Matt getting me back

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<v Speaker 2>over the years for everything that I have been sharing

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<v Speaker 2>on this podcast. Molly May is like almost four. She

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<v Speaker 2>turns four in a couple of weeks time. And in

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<v Speaker 2>the four years of her life, she has never walked

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<v Speaker 2>in on us getting down and diberty.

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<v Speaker 1>Although three times she hasn't walked in.

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<v Speaker 2>I know she hasn't caught us in the act yet,

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<v Speaker 2>and it could be because it's quite infrequent.

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<v Speaker 1>But she also sleeps in no bed.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, Molly gets up every single night at around

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<v Speaker 2>eleven o'clock and she goes from her bed and comes

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<v Speaker 2>and gets into our bed, and then we spend the

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<v Speaker 2>entire night with her kicking me in the tit for

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of it. So like it is surprising that

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<v Speaker 2>up until this point, and I know we joke all

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<v Speaker 2>the time that I don't have sex, but I do. Guys,

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<v Speaker 2>it happens. So up until this point in time, she's

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<v Speaker 2>never ever walked in on us. But Matt shared the

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<v Speaker 2>story on his podcast, so I feel like I need

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<v Speaker 2>to share my version of it. We were doing the

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<v Speaker 2>horizontal dance of love the other night, yeah, but us

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<v Speaker 2>naked in missionary position, which would mean Matt was on top,

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<v Speaker 2>no blanket, no nothing. I feel like I was being

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<v Speaker 2>semi vocal, but like not that vocal that it would

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<v Speaker 2>have woken her up, but vocal enough that she would

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<v Speaker 2>have been like, what are they?

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<v Speaker 1>What game are they playing? Some husky breathing anyway, Yeah, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>big more than that. Oh, I was scary. It was scary.

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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty much you all.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're in the middle of it, this you know,

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<v Speaker 2>passionate love making session and all here is this and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like a cartoon. I heard the pita powder

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<v Speaker 2>and then as soon as I look to the right,

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<v Speaker 2>she just arrived like a tombstone, standing next to the bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Like how did you get that? So you was so

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<v Speaker 1>close to our faces.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is gonna be traumatic for you

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<v Speaker 2>and cost you a lot in therapy when you're older. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>she was literally right next to my face and we

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't had time to do anything. We were just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of frozen in position.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you know what, that's probably the best position

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<v Speaker 1>to be when you're sprung, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you just look like you're laying down in bed.

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<v Speaker 2>We like you're close and cuddly. Yeah, just having a

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<v Speaker 2>naked close cuddle. Yeah, or she would have been out

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<v Speaker 2>of sea with her dad's butt. Really and like the

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<v Speaker 2>side of my leg, it's not like.

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<v Speaker 1>A sixty nine or how do you explain that? You

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<v Speaker 1>don't You really don't. I don't know what you do

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<v Speaker 1>for that. No, as we all know, I've seen it

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<v Speaker 1>before of my mom. Oh yeah, Laura did catch her mum,

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<v Speaker 1>that was true. Let's not visit revisit that anyway. So

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<v Speaker 1>it turned to it.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like there right at my face, and like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>she gets into her bed every night. There's nothing that

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<v Speaker 2>you can do to deter her from getting into bed, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just her. She as soon as she gets to

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<v Speaker 2>the bed, she climbs on in. And I turned to

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<v Speaker 2>her and she looked at us and she was a

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<v Speaker 2>bit like the fuck is going on here? And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, sweet here, maybe you should go back

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<v Speaker 2>to your own bed tonight. And she just looks us

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<v Speaker 2>as both and she goes, okay, Mummy, turns around and

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<v Speaker 2>walks straight out and.

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<v Speaker 1>Puts herself back to bed. And the fact that she

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<v Speaker 1>did that means she clocked something was different, because she

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<v Speaker 1>would always get in a bed kind of sense.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, I don't know what this is, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to know, and then she didn't mention anything.

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<v Speaker 2>She kind of did. She said, you told me to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to my bed last night, and I was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Mommy and Daddy were wrestling, having a wrestle. We were

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<v Speaker 2>having we were having a special adult tickle.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd have told her you were like practicing the dance

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<v Speaker 1>or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't want her to get that impression. Then

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<v Speaker 2>imagine how much that's gonna affect her when she's older.

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<v Speaker 2>And she thinks that's what I was doing with my

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<v Speaker 2>dance teacher. But you think anyway, Daily Mail, stay the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck away from that headline.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck me. Oh okay, guys, we've just gotten a live

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<v Speaker 1>update from Keisha's This is the most amazing content life

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<v Speaker 1>on Cut has ever had. Keisha's sent what we just

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<v Speaker 1>did before to Toddler own bless your soul. You've taken

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<v Speaker 1>one for the team, Keisha, and he's just responded with

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<v Speaker 1>please read out loud. This poor guy does not know

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<v Speaker 1>what he's in for. I think he does.

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<v Speaker 2>He wrote, if I have a whole pass, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>exercising it, so you're not making a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>To clarify Kysh's got that is basically you're basically engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's saying he's not.

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<v Speaker 2>That's nothing going on with anyone else. He's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>cure he's exclusive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's trying to say that you guys are locked down.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, she's so embarrassed. I'm that's so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't known Keisha to have a boyfriend traumatized.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I also just put it out there we are

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<v Speaker 2>now hiring for somebody who is single, because we need

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<v Speaker 2>somebody single in our company at all times.

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<v Speaker 1>At least, you know, Laura and I are on par

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<v Speaker 1>with our opinions. Yeah, yeah, and also the content that

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<v Speaker 1>we want. And he seems really nice. Yeah, Hi, Hi Tabloom, Welcome, Welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>to the family. All right, let's leave it because she's

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>died of embarrassment. Speaking of embarrassment, I've got a great

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<v Speaker 1>little accidentally unfiltered here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's been a while since we've done an accidently

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:14.360
<v Speaker 2>unfiltered I love this in a while, but this one

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<v Speaker 2>came into email.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, they're really in traditional format. Yeah, highlight uncut team.

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<v Speaker 1>I was out for drinks with my friend's night and

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<v Speaker 1>we all decided to do accidentally unfiltered and tell our

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<v Speaker 1>most embarrassing moments. And I begged me to riding with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I love that you guys have done this. So

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<v Speaker 1>a few years ago, I was living in my parents'

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<v Speaker 1>garage that we had turned into a bedroom. The sliding

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<v Speaker 1>door to the room had a doggy door, and my

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<v Speaker 1>clothes were kept in baskets along the bottom shelf. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a very lovely pink silicone vibrator, but it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't look like a dick. It was just like a

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<v Speaker 1>pink sort of stick like shape like a dick, like

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<v Speaker 1>a pink dick, but just like I guess, not real shape,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the pretty one.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a pink stick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the pretty dildos. One afternoon I arrived home from

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<v Speaker 1>work to see my dad sitting in the backyard playing

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<v Speaker 1>fetch with my dog, throwing around my pink dial do.

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<v Speaker 1>My dog had obviously found it in a basket through

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<v Speaker 1>the doggy door. I was so mortified, but I had

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>to play it cool, so I decided to play with

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<v Speaker 1>both of them. Played throw the dog toy with Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>but then I had to yeat it over the fence

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, oops, lost the dog's toy. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the most embarrassing thing ever. And thank god my dad

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<v Speaker 1>never cluede onto it.

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<v Speaker 3>She played fetch with her dad and then dog with

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<v Speaker 3>Big Dilda.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine being the neighbor and finding a fucking dialdo in

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<v Speaker 2>your backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>Just do in the garden and you get you eat

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<v Speaker 1>it in the head with a dildo. It is so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the idea that you sat around with your

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriends and shared your acciently and filtered stories.

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<v Speaker 1>What are good if?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're going out for dinner with your friends,

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<v Speaker 2>this is such a good little thing for you to

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<v Speaker 2>do this weekend or next weekend. Sit down and ask like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is your most embarrassing story? It'll give you the

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<v Speaker 2>best laugh and then write them in, and then make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you write them in because you know, we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>been doing many accidently unfilters this year, and I feel

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 2>like it's time to bring it back.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby or she also said, please keep me anonymous. Love

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. Just so you know, everyone is anonymous. Everyone

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 1>never we don't even look at your profile. Sometimes we

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>just sometimes because sometimes we do. Oh you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when it's really funny, we have a look, but only

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>because we're like, I want to put a face to

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>queen the name of that person, but I want to

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 1>put a face in the name of this queen. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but we promise you will always be anonymous. But please

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>keep those coming in because I live for them.

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<v Speaker 2>You can slide into the dams at Life on Cut podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Well Tony Armstrong wears a lot of cats.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a TV presenter, he's an XAFL player, he's an

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<v Speaker 1>assy heart throb. He's a podcast or with a new podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>The Pool Room, and if you'll listen to Australian media,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the next Bachelor. Tony, Welcome to Life on Cut.

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<v Speaker 4>It's such a thrill to be here. Love the laundry.

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<v Speaker 4>List of things that I am particularly the one that

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<v Speaker 4>we all knows the most true, which is the bachelor.

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<v Speaker 4>One very happy with that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we either prove it or defunk it?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know we've spoken about it before the

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<v Speaker 2>pick up, but just for everybody out there who's curious

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<v Speaker 2>or who's dying to know, will you ever be the

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<v Speaker 2>Bachelor or has it ever been on the table?

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<v Speaker 4>No? Despite the weird nature of the job that I

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<v Speaker 4>guess we all do, I don't like people knowing weird

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<v Speaker 4>shit about me, and I can imagine that, like if

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<v Speaker 4>I was doing a dating show on TV, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like that'd be too invasive for me. So no full

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<v Speaker 4>respect to people who do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not insulted. I was going to say, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I know we were both on the batch. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I reckon he probably knows. I don't think he does.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I do, But I guess the thing is like

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<v Speaker 4>for me, I couldn't like, Yeah, I mean, I'm awkward

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<v Speaker 4>enough as is, so I would find trying to be

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<v Speaker 4>vulnerable like that, properly vulnerable like that would be tough.

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<v Speaker 4>I would imagine, what was it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you say that you were awkward? I actually just

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 2>think that you're smarter. Than us, because you've been in

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<v Speaker 2>the media ring. I think like when we signed up

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<v Speaker 2>and did it, we had no idea of what to

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<v Speaker 2>expect because we were so fresh and so green. Now

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<v Speaker 2>looking back, if I knew what I knew and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think I'd get a husband out of it, I

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<v Speaker 2>certainly wouldn't be doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I think there's a lot of women out there

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be disappointed to hear that those rumors are fault

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<v Speaker 1>because I think there is. I know there is a

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<v Speaker 1>long line up for you, Tony, So how do you

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<v Speaker 1>know I was one of them at one Stay okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just to.

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<v Speaker 2>Make you really awkward while we start this, but to

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 2>make you even more awkward, we start every single chat

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:23.959
<v Speaker 2>the same way with our guests, and that is an

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<v Speaker 2>accidentally unfiltered story, basically the most embarrassing thing that's ever

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<v Speaker 2>happened to you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very humanizing and we want you to bear your soul.

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<v Speaker 4>So I've got a couple. I've got a laundry list,

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<v Speaker 4>but the first one that comes to mind right now.

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 4>I was lucky enough to be one of the hosts

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<v Speaker 4>of ABC's ninety f Birthday and like we did like

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 4>extravaganza type night up in Sydney and we were catching

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<v Speaker 4>up on zoom to like talk through how the night

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<v Speaker 4>would go and how the scripts was, and you know,

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 4>doing line reads and all that kind of stuff. And

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<v Speaker 4>I do wrecky TV for people who don't know, and like,

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<v Speaker 4>I am just so tired all the time. I know

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<v Speaker 4>that's a boring thing to say, but I'm so tired

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<v Speaker 4>all the time. Anyway, I was on this zoom right

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<v Speaker 4>with all the big wigs, and I've done this more

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<v Speaker 4>than once, but on this occasion, we were reading through

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<v Speaker 4>all of the script and I was here at home

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<v Speaker 4>on my couch like listening, and then I just fully,

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<v Speaker 4>fully fell asleep in the middle of this zoom and like,

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<v Speaker 4>my bosses and my boss's bosses are all in there,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, normally if you fell asleep, there's someone

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 4>there who can Just so my phone is not I

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 4>don't know my phones on do not disturb. The only

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 4>way they can get to me is through the zoom.

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm asleep. I can't hear the fucking zoom. I come

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<v Speaker 4>back and the script writers are in there, and then

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 4>at the end they go, oh, so what's the script like?

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, well, I fucking fell asleep to find

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 4>it was very And I've done it in interviews before

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<v Speaker 4>as well, where I've like, I take, say, I do

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<v Speaker 4>like a run of interviews for a show or something

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 4>like that. I used to have a noise canceling headphones

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 4>and I would just lie on my bed with my

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<v Speaker 4>phone here and just do the interviews like lying down.

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 4>And the amount of times I've fallen asleep in interviews

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<v Speaker 4>and then had to like be like, oh, sorry, you

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 4>broke up. What was that, like, you know, waking up

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<v Speaker 4>some Tony Tony? Are you there?

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<v Speaker 1>I really hope that we made through the whole episode

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>with you staying away. That would be your.

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<v Speaker 4>Dream, Like, oh my god. The other one, when I

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<v Speaker 4>was like sixteen, I was playing for my combined school

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 4>footy team, so like the kind of rep team, and

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 4>the coach of the side was a fellow called Ken Fletcher,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was a bomber's legend and I was so

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<v Speaker 4>nervous to meet him. We're in like a line, the

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<v Speaker 4>same way that you do when you're like cheap in

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<v Speaker 4>like an exam or something, and you know how sometimes

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 4>you'd write their name because you're copying the person I

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 4>introduced myself as the person in front of me, because

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 4>I was so nervous to meet this guy. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>remember his I can't remember the guy in front of

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<v Speaker 4>his name. He's like, I know your name's Tony. We

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 4>picked you, we know who you. I was like, Ken,

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 4>I've had a meltdown, sorry, mate, and I walked off. Also,

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be rude to Louis Plumbing, but

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 4>she's like a tennis commentator that we get on and

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<v Speaker 4>I think for ages she thought my name was Nick,

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<v Speaker 4>so at the end of our crosses she'd be like,

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<v Speaker 4>thanks Nick, and I'd just be like, because.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to tell them. I hate that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't want to be rude as well, like

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 4>on TV and like correct someone right. Michael Roland would

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<v Speaker 4>love it. Every time he'd be like, and I'd just

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<v Speaker 4>be like. And then eventually I think someone told her,

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<v Speaker 4>because there was one day where she was like over

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<v Speaker 4>the top, he's thanks Tony, Yeah, great question.

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<v Speaker 2>You like, you're never going to be able to hide

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 2>the fact that you've been calling me Nick for six

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<v Speaker 2>months because no one knows my name.

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<v Speaker 1>It does get to a point where you can't say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember my old job. Someone called me Bridget and

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:14.479
<v Speaker 1>I was new, so I didn't want to correct them,

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'll just go with Bridget. I

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<v Speaker 1>was Bridget for three years.

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<v Speaker 2>I just was like, well, you never ever corrected them,

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 2>and nobody ever realized that was wrong.

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>No, we got too deep. That's I'm like, I feel

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>like you know that your conflict.

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Avoid it when you get to that point in your

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>career and people are still calling you by the wrong name.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, like, I will happily eat the thing that I

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 4>lose to avoid throwing someone. You know, I'll like, well,

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, if it matters to you, let's do that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's me. I'm scared of conflict.

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<v Speaker 2>Tony, tell us a little bit about what your childhood

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<v Speaker 2>was like. You grew up with your mum and she

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<v Speaker 2>was a single mom at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did you grow up all over?

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<v Speaker 6>So?

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<v Speaker 4>I was born at the old Royal Women's in Paddington,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure if it's still there. Then grew up

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<v Speaker 4>sort of out West Sydney, so like Cabra matter Fairfield

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<v Speaker 4>if you know it, like past Paramatta spent some time

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<v Speaker 4>on the south coast of New South Wales and then

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<v Speaker 4>mum wanted do they call it a tree change? Is

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<v Speaker 4>it a tree change? If you move to the country,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a sea change.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the inland version.

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I think a tree change is when you, yeah, when

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 2>you're heading in for a bit more nature, let's go

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 2>with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, So mum, being a teacher, she asked for a

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<v Speaker 4>teaching transfer to within a half hour driving radius of

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<v Speaker 4>Aubery and we ended up in a little town called

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<v Speaker 4>Brocklesby that had literally like one hundred people living there,

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:36.319
<v Speaker 4>which was wild. It was like a farming town, and

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:39.439
<v Speaker 4>then went to boarding school at Assumption College. But yeah,

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.280
<v Speaker 4>growing up it was particularly when we're in the country,

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<v Speaker 4>like after school, it would just be me. So I

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 4>got quite imaginative and just used to fuck around heaps

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 4>so much.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say, just you che did you have no

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 1>friends because there weren't many people around, or did you

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 1>live so far away from everyone else in this tiny

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>town that no one could get to you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? No, no, no, no, That's kind of what it was like.

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 4>So all the kids were on the farms around the town,

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 4>and then all my friends from school were in Aubrey.

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 4>So like after school I didn't really hang out with

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.399
<v Speaker 4>other kids. It would be just mum and I and yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>like I had at the mint time. I used to

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 4>muck around heaps. I'd make bike jumps, I play the drums,

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 4>I'd watch Telly whatever. Yeah, I had a really good time.

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 2>How old were you when your dad was out of

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<v Speaker 2>the picture and it was just you.

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:31.879
<v Speaker 1>And your mum?

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<v Speaker 4>So I never met my dad until like two years ago.

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Wow, and how old are you?

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I am thirty three years old and.

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:45.479
<v Speaker 2>Feeling you are a young little spring chicken.

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>That's where you are.

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 4>Thank you? Are we recording? Can we are?

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 1>We can say that that can be the.

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 4>So, yeah, it was just mum and I. But it

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 4>wasn't necessarily I guess something where obviously like I yearned

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 4>for a dad because you see it, but I also

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 4>never had it, so it wasn't like I lost something.

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Also, I guess in your case, in terms of like identity,

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 2>understanding where you come from, having that sense of belonging

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>or familiarity, was there, I mean, not necessarily a longing

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 2>for your dad or for a father figure, because I

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 2>do think that, I mean for me, I would write

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 2>with a single mum as well, And I think that

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 2>your mom can really feel that cut for you. But

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 2>was there a sense of kind of wanting to know

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:25.840
<v Speaker 2>a bit of where you came from and that was

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:27.759
<v Speaker 2>like the driving force to meet your dad so many

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 2>years down the track, or was there another reason as

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 2>to why two years ago you decided to meet him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. No, that's a really good question. I just felt

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 4>like the time was right. I'd never really actively wanted to.

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:41.760
<v Speaker 4>And then I don't know what it was that changed

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 4>in me, probably getting a bit long in the twos

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 4>and thinking about things like deeper things, I suppose, and

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 4>then I was like, oh, yeah, I mean it'd be cool,

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Probably because I was thinking, you know, like if I

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 4>have kids, I want them to know you know what

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean?

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Did you have access to your father whenever you wanted,

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>like you always knew to find him if he wanted,

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:03.399
<v Speaker 1>or did that only come later?

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 4>Nah? So, like I didn't pursue it because you know,

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:11.760
<v Speaker 4>I felt really loyal to Mum and I didn't want

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 4>to put her out despite the fact that she would

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 4>always be like if you ever want to know, out

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:19.879
<v Speaker 4>of a sense of loyalty that even though that's not

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:23.879
<v Speaker 4>being disloyed in yet, just like being young and not

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 4>really knowing how to navigate some of those tricky things

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 4>that life throws up.

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 1>What was it like when you finally met Do you

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 1>end up having a relationship with him? And I guess

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious for this because my mom didn't have a dad.

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>My mom's dad left very very which I think she

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:38.799
<v Speaker 1>was two or three. She didn't remember him, and when

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>she was in her forties, she got curious and she

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:43.400
<v Speaker 1>decided to meet him because she imagined it would be

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.760
<v Speaker 1>this beautiful reunion and this is why he wasn't around.

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>And she just said it was just shit. She's like,

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I wish I never met him. I wish I didn't

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 1>get that curiosity and just continue to live my life.

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 1>He didn't live up to what she had imagined. So

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>what was it like for you?

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.839
<v Speaker 4>I went into it kind of not expecting anything. We've

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 4>got a relationship, but yeah, like it was just fucking

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 4>weird to be honest, Like you're kind of like, you know,

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 4>you're looking at half of yourself. There's all like the

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:12.800
<v Speaker 4>woe is Me feelings that go through, but like everyone's

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.799
<v Speaker 4>got their shit. He had his shit. I think we're

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 4>getting there. I don't know where it'll get to I

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:21.919
<v Speaker 4>like him, I'm fond of him, but I'm also I've

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:22.839
<v Speaker 4>been burnt by him.

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:26.759
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, absolutely from I mean, not so much about

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 2>your relationship with your dad by any means, but your

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 2>relationship I guess with yourself as well. Your dad is Indigenous,

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.359
<v Speaker 2>and I guess growing up in a household and also

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 2>in a community where you visibly present as Indigenous but

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 2>maybe don't have a good link to your history, to

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 2>your culture.

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 1>What was that like for you?

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 4>I got so fucking good at spinning yarns, I bet

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 4>because you know, like kids are just so you just

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 4>don't ask. Yeah, yeah, that was just and I just

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 4>make shit up. So obviously that's like complex, right. As

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 4>I've gotten older, got more perspective on what it is,

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 4>and I guess that was part of the reason why

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.879
<v Speaker 4>I did want to reach out. Well, I actually didn't

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 4>reach out, but like that was why I kind of

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 4>like opened myself up to wanting to connect. Was because

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 4>I had like imposter syndrome. But then it's like, well,

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.879
<v Speaker 4>like this is also a black experience, right, Like it's

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 4>just my one versus someone who's grown up with knowledge,

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 4>with culture, with family, with community. Mine's just a different

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 4>version of that, Like, I'm not Robinson Cruzo, like with

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 4>colonization and displacement, all the fucking shit that's happened. My

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 4>story is one that is so common. So yeah, like

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 4>used to have imposter syndrome. Now I'm like comfortable with

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:46.919
<v Speaker 4>who I am. I'm trying to be comfortable with who

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 4>I am and curious.

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I suppose you're wildly successful. Now do you still feel

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>like you suffer from that? When you get a new gig,

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>or you're on a new TV show, or people are

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 1>putting pressure on you to speak about your upbringing and

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.799
<v Speaker 1>your community, do you feel like that's still you're not

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the person to be doing that, even though we all know,

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:04.919
<v Speaker 1>of course you are.

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's interesting. It's like I've got this platform, which

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm so grateful for, so I kind of feel like

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 4>it's incumbent on me to be strong. But then I'm

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 4>also like, fuck, i am a bozo.

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>But I love it. Do you think that?

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 4>No? But I'm like, there are so many people who

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 4>are so much smarter, so much more research, so much

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 4>more adequate to talk on things. However, for one reason

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 4>or another, they don't get given the microphone. So I

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 4>like try to align myself with really good thinkers and

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 4>thinkers that I really respect and I know community respects,

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:46.359
<v Speaker 4>and then I just try to echo what they say.

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 2>We had a really great conversation with Taylor Gray when

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 2>it was Australia Day, and I loved speaking to her

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 2>because one of the things that she said was that

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 2>she feels as though there is so much responsibility on

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:00.839
<v Speaker 2>her to represent an entire group of people. And then

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 2>she was like, but no white person walks into a

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 2>room and goes, I'm representing everyone. She's like, you get

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:07.439
<v Speaker 2>to show up and just represent yourself, represent the fact

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 2>that you do a podcast, or you make jewelry or

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. She was like, but when you are

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:13.480
<v Speaker 2>an Indigenous person, you walk into a room and people

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 2>expect you to speak for everyone. And she's like, and

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 2>it's such a wild expectation that everybody has, yeah, and responsibility,

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.920
<v Speaker 2>but also one that's just so completely unfair. And I

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 2>think as well for you, because you are this very

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.320
<v Speaker 2>respected voice in the media, but there are very few

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 2>extremely successful media personalities throo are also Indigenous that expectation

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:35.239
<v Speaker 2>falls even harder on you.

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, for sure, I'm really good mates with Brooke Boning

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 4>a bit. She and I talk about it to each other,

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 4>basically like moaning to each other. But it's really funny

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 4>you say that, because I was lucky enough to be

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 4>the first Indigenous person to commentate AFL on commercial radio.

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 4>And I remember in The Leader they made a big

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 4>thing about it. I did it for Triple, and they

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 4>made this huge thing about it because you know, it

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:01.439
<v Speaker 4>was awesome for Triple to be like the ones who

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 4>did it. We were making history. And I just remember

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 4>the lead up being like, I can't fuck this up

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 4>because if I dopect. If I do, I'll put blackfellows back.

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 4>And this is with no disrespect to white commentators, but

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:20.279
<v Speaker 4>they're not thinking exactly to your point. They're not thinking, well,

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 4>like I stuff this up, I'm going to fuck this

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 4>up for it. You know, it's not going to affect

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 4>the perception of a people. Whereas sometimes I worry that

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:34.239
<v Speaker 4>worries a bit strong. But sometimes I think that I

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 4>can directly affect perception of Indigenous people just because of

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:42.359
<v Speaker 4>the platform I've been given, Like I can literally make

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:45.280
<v Speaker 4>people think and obviously the way the brain works worse,

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 4>Like I can make people think worse of Indigenous people

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 4>through my actions, which is a really cooked way to think, right,

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 4>Like you should just be worried about being a good person.

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the pressure of the responsibility. I've never quite

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>thought of it like that, that you've thought, I can't

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>be the one to fuck it up into people's perspective

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 1>for the worst. And something you just mentioned which just

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 1>struck me a little bit, as you said, like there

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 1>are people more intelligent than me that should be, you know,

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 1>having these conversations when the first thing I thought of

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 1>is I never would have thought that. I never would

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:15.320
<v Speaker 1>have thought someone's not intelligent enough to have the conversation,

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:17.879
<v Speaker 1>because at the end of the day, it's your lived

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 1>experience and it's your story to share. And apart from that,

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you're incredibly talented at everything that you do, and that

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with you've been indigenous.

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 4>Let's cut that up too.

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've got some of my light reels here. I

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:31.280
<v Speaker 1>understand why it's frightening.

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, also going back, we're obviously going to

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 2>get into talking about footy very shortly.

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.360
<v Speaker 1>But you know, you come from a very different background.

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 2>It's not like you came from a journalistic background and

0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden you're working in media and

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 2>being called up to do a whole bunch of different things,

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 2>and being asked to do breakfast media. It's like the

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 2>trajectory seemed to happen so quickly, and I'm sure it

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 2>wasn't an overnight thing for you. But I guess before

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 2>we get into how you made that transition between football

0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 2>to media personality, i'd love to know a little bit

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 2>about your childhood football dreams, how you kind of navigated

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:02.840
<v Speaker 2>that period of your life, and then what it was

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:04.880
<v Speaker 2>like to transition into professional football.

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh well, I used to sleep with a footy. I

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 4>was like that obsessed, right, Having no friends around after

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 4>school and stuff meant that I would just take the

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 4>footy and I'll just kick it at trees, kick it

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 4>at targets, you know, the ten thousand hours thing, like

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 4>I would have clocked fifty sixty thou Like, it was

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 4>wild and I loved it. And it's quite funny. I've

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:29.799
<v Speaker 4>spoken about this before, but it's so true when you're

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 4>growing up. I think this has happened to all of us.

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 4>It's like try hard, work hard, and you'll get what

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 4>you want, you know, Like that's like the dream, right,

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 4>It's like you work hard at whatever it is, and

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 4>success will come your way. And what I found out

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 4>through footy was that that actually isn't always the case.

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, you can bust a gut, you can scrap,

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 4>you can you know, move all over the country, you

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 4>can bust your ass, and it still might not be

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 4>good enough. But then the best thing that came out

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 4>of like all of that, out of footy not making

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 4>it not being good enough was I learned that it

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:05.840
<v Speaker 4>will be okay, Like all of this could go away

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 4>tomorrow and I'd be fine. I mean, I'll probably have

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:11.319
<v Speaker 4>to sell the house, I.

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Have to make some adjustments to the spending.

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I'd be fine. And so like that fear

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.359
<v Speaker 4>of failure that can constrict people. You know, we all

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 4>know people who you see like you're like, come on, man,

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:25.879
<v Speaker 4>like just do it, You're brilliant, just do the thing,

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 4>and they get in their own way. Like I'm lucky

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:33.879
<v Speaker 4>that football gave me that fearlessness, but it was also hard.

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, how do you cope with that when you

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 2>have all these dreams and aspirations, when you're literally sleeping

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 2>with a football as a child, and then you make it.

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:45.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're good but then maybe just not quite

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:50.239
<v Speaker 2>good enough, all right, Laura, What I mean is is

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 2>that there is an expectation that you need to be

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:55.840
<v Speaker 2>even better. How do you deal and overcome that sense

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:56.360
<v Speaker 2>of failure?

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:59.719
<v Speaker 4>So I got like really sad because football you get

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 4>so much feedback, both directly and indirectly, and when you're

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:07.320
<v Speaker 4>not in like the senior side, you're getting indirect feedback

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:10.959
<v Speaker 4>each week through non selection that you're literally not good enough.

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 4>Like we're all trying to play in the seniors, right,

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 4>and if you're not getting selected, what are they saying

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 4>you're not good enough? But then all week you're busting

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 4>your ass, busting your ass trying to play in the

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 4>senior team. And so I think over sort of eight

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 4>years of on a weekly basis being told you're not

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:31.759
<v Speaker 4>good enough, but then your identity being so wrapped up

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 4>in what you do as well, it just took a

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 4>while for me to like realize that like sort of

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 4>what I do is not who I am. Necessarily, Still

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:43.840
<v Speaker 4>work on that all the time, Still work on like

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:48.360
<v Speaker 4>learning to like like myself, because I got like a

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 4>deep sort of kind of self loathing through the feedback

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.399
<v Speaker 4>and footy and all that kind of shit, but yeah,

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm getting that. It's good. It's hard.

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you got drafted to the Adelaide Crows in

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 1>I think tow thousand and seven. Then twenty twelve you

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>debut for the Sydney Swans and like, that's a team

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you grew up supporting, which is pretty amazing. Surely that

0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 1>is a bit of a confidence boost for you. What

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:10.919
<v Speaker 1>was that time?

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 4>Like, it was weird, it was like awesome, Like fuck,

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 4>running around kicking a footy, lift and weights, getting massages,

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:23.600
<v Speaker 4>going for coffees, playing FIFA. It's fucking sick. I was

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 4>looking that good back then. I was fucking ripped six pack.

0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 4>It's not great now, but back then, pooh. Anyway, it

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 4>was sick to work on something so hard and like

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 4>hone a craft, focus on getting really good at something

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 4>hyper specific. I found that really cool. But then there

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:46.360
<v Speaker 4>was the other side of the coin, which was what

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:49.359
<v Speaker 4>I just talked about with like the non selection. I've

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 4>used this analogy before, it I reckon it's a good one.

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 4>It was like I was having a shower with a

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 4>raincoat on, Like I was like doing it, but I

0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 4>wasn't playing every week. I wasn't one of the main,

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:01.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, like I was there, but it just wasn't

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 4>and like it happened so fast as well, Like I

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:06.800
<v Speaker 4>finished boarding school on the Friday, got drafted on the Saturday,

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.480
<v Speaker 4>moved to Adelaide on the Sunday, started on the Monday.

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 4>This might be hard for you to imagine, but I

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 4>was a pretty immature aheard, and they expected me to

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 4>be this hyper professional and I just I was just

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:22.880
<v Speaker 4>growing up. Basically, I probably early days had a perception

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:24.680
<v Speaker 4>of being a bit of a fucking idiot, which is

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:25.280
<v Speaker 4>fair enough.

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:28.239
<v Speaker 2>You played alongside Adam Goods, and for everybody who knows

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:30.440
<v Speaker 2>AFL you would know who Goods he is. But for

0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:34.799
<v Speaker 2>anybody who isn't aware, Goodsy is basically an AFL god.

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:38.480
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, he was racially villified, and

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 2>he ended up later on rejecting a place in the

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame because of the racial abuse he experienced

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 2>on field.

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 1>What was that like for you?

0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:49.560
<v Speaker 2>One playing alongside him, but also at a time where

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 2>there was so much conversation around race, I got to.

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:55.160
<v Speaker 4>Play with him. I was at the game when the

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 4>shit happened, and it was so fucked because you're, like,

0:48:57.719 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 4>we've spoken about race a little bit. But it's like,

0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 4>this is fucking black Superman, right, and he's been racially

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:08.840
<v Speaker 4>vilified in his workplace. Right, He's gone to work copped

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:11.719
<v Speaker 4>racial abuse, he said something about it, and then we

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 4>decide that he's the bad guy.

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was gaslit. He was told well, no,

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you're not.

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 4>By a country. It was really hard to watch. I'm

0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 4>lucky enough to have a relationship with Goodsy. Actually i'll

0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:30.120
<v Speaker 4>show you something. So that's me as a kid with

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:33.440
<v Speaker 4>Goodsy signing something for him. Yeah, and then getting to

0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:36.160
<v Speaker 4>play with him. My favorite memory ever was we were

0:49:36.200 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 4>playing Friday night footy against the Hawks. I did something sick.

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 4>I like got the ball half back, dodged someone hit

0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 4>this like fifty meter bullet pass to Goodsy on the lead,

0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 4>and I just remember it was like the only moment

0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 4>when I was playing for him that I really like

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 4>soaked up. Because it was a Grand Final rematch, so

0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:55.800
<v Speaker 4>there's like eighty thousand people at the g couldn't hear shit,

0:49:55.880 --> 0:49:57.759
<v Speaker 4>and I just looked around. I was like a twelve

0:49:57.840 --> 0:50:01.280
<v Speaker 4>year old me kind of knew that this was going

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:03.640
<v Speaker 4>to happen. At some point I would have lost my shit,

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 4>you know. So yeah, you're fucking cool getting to play

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 4>a goodsie. He's alleged even better person than he was

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.280
<v Speaker 4>a footballer when he was an amazing football.

0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:14.839
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting that you say that your twelve year old self,

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:16.759
<v Speaker 2>if they could see what you achieved at that time,

0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 2>that he would have lost his absolute mind, because I

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.760
<v Speaker 2>think sometimes when we get to that point where we've

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:24.840
<v Speaker 2>always dreamt of, the goalposts moved, and I hate I

0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:26.400
<v Speaker 2>mean not to use that as pun, but what I

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:28.880
<v Speaker 2>mean is is that you can get to the place

0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 2>that you've always dreamt of, and then your ambitions have

0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:33.920
<v Speaker 2>already moved forward, so you're not able to celebrate when

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:36.799
<v Speaker 2>you get there. But I guess also for footballers, and

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 2>it's something that we hear from time to time, is

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 2>that when you come to almost the end of your career,

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:44.480
<v Speaker 2>or in your case, maybe your career was shorter than

0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:46.719
<v Speaker 2>what you had expected it to be, that there's this

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.840
<v Speaker 2>real identity shift, like who am I if I'm not

0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:55.319
<v Speaker 2>the best footballer, if I'm not still a professional athlete.

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:57.960
<v Speaker 4>And I like, it's so regimented as well, so you're

0:50:58.000 --> 0:51:00.920
<v Speaker 4>actually like living not a real life, not that what

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm doing now is reel. It's fucking weird too. But

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 4>you're like told what to eat, you're prescribed your training,

0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 4>you're told where to be, you're given a diary that's

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:15.839
<v Speaker 4>filled for you. You almost like don't have autonomy, and

0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 4>that obviously regiments you. Is that the right word that

0:51:19.160 --> 0:51:22.839
<v Speaker 4>programs you? And then you're told every decision you make

0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:25.520
<v Speaker 4>needs to be about being the best footballer you can be,

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:28.319
<v Speaker 4>So do I eat that? Do I stay up and

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 4>watch that movie? Do I do this to? Every decision

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:35.320
<v Speaker 4>you make should revolve around being the best sports person

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:38.399
<v Speaker 4>you can be. And then when you come out of it,

0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:41.680
<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of people haven't tipped into the

0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:45.680
<v Speaker 4>other parts of their life because you're so inherently competitive

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 4>as well. You look around at all of your friends

0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:51.960
<v Speaker 4>and you've gone from like being so elite and so

0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:55.640
<v Speaker 4>pointy and at something, and then you come out with

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:58.800
<v Speaker 4>like heaps of soft skills, but quite often no degree,

0:51:59.320 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 4>no tray, no work experience because you've been so focused

0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:04.640
<v Speaker 4>on football. And then you look at your friends and

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:06.839
<v Speaker 4>if you're thirty odd, you know some of them are

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:10.040
<v Speaker 4>like I don't know, junior partners or they've started their

0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:13.399
<v Speaker 4>own business, and you inherently are competitive, so you look

0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:18.279
<v Speaker 4>around and you go, oh fuck, I'm like eighteen, I'm

0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:21.480
<v Speaker 4>back at the State. So I think it hits a

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:23.719
<v Speaker 4>lot of people really hard, and they go from being

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:27.560
<v Speaker 4>the top dog, you know, So Ego takes a bruise,

0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:29.839
<v Speaker 4>a big one. I think I was in a way

0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:33.040
<v Speaker 4>lucky that I wasn't amazing, because I think I would

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:34.839
<v Speaker 4>have struggled with the transition even more.

0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously you played professionally, but in your time,

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:40.759
<v Speaker 1>did you experience anything like Adam Goods did?

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:44.439
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I mean, fuck, it's so cooked to say,

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:47.000
<v Speaker 4>but I just like you see what happens like as

0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:50.880
<v Speaker 4>soon as someone calls it out. And as I've gotten older,

0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 4>speaking like I'm seventy, as I'm mature, and particularly now

0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:58.880
<v Speaker 4>I realize that I've got this platform when it happens

0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:01.440
<v Speaker 4>to me, I call it not all the time, but

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:05.080
<v Speaker 4>sometimes because I'm like, this is a great opportunity to

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:09.120
<v Speaker 4>highlight that kind of no matter your perceived station in

0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:11.799
<v Speaker 4>the world, whatever the world might be, racist, stunkive a.

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Fuck, you call it out in terms of your media career,

0:53:15.080 --> 0:53:18.280
<v Speaker 2>and so the and I've heard you speak about this before,

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:22.759
<v Speaker 2>the backlash and the outrage and the racism is still there?

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:25.600
<v Speaker 1>How do you deal with that in your own personal life?

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 4>What I do so like I don't have my social

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 4>media apps on my phone. I log in via web

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:35.880
<v Speaker 4>browser to then post something and then I'll leave them behind.

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 4>What I do when I go on to social media,

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 4>for instance, it's kind of like, you know, you put

0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:42.719
<v Speaker 4>the hard hat on, You've got the high vias, You're like,

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:46.480
<v Speaker 4>fuck all right, anything anything could pop up online or

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:49.839
<v Speaker 4>I don't look because I get smacked if I do,

0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:53.000
<v Speaker 4>and that's not worth it. And then the second thing

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 4>I think is like, well, why would you give air

0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:59.400
<v Speaker 4>or gas to like voices that you wouldn't go and

0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:01.239
<v Speaker 4>have a meal with, you know, Like I've got a

0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:04.239
<v Speaker 4>relationship with some of these people who want to have

0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:06.359
<v Speaker 4>a go at ya for whatever it is, So then

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:09.200
<v Speaker 4>why would I let their opinion affect me? Like if

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:12.080
<v Speaker 4>it's my best friend and my best friend goes mate, like,

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:16.400
<v Speaker 4>then I'll listen. But then it's just some racist bigot.

0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:18.640
<v Speaker 4>They're a jerk, and that's on them.

0:54:19.160 --> 0:54:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I think you can get caught up in being

0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:23.360
<v Speaker 2>trolled online. And what I mean by that is I

0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:26.880
<v Speaker 2>mean we've both experienced it for very, very very different reasons.

0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:29.920
<v Speaker 2>But I remember speaking to Tim Wall from Channel ten

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Publicity and he kind of gave me the best advice.

0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:35.439
<v Speaker 2>He sort of said that if you were in real

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:38.280
<v Speaker 2>life and somebody called something out at you from across

0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:40.680
<v Speaker 2>the street and called you horrible names, you'd cross the

0:54:40.719 --> 0:54:42.520
<v Speaker 2>street and you look at that person and think that

0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:45.239
<v Speaker 2>they were fucking crazy. But if someone does it in

0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:48.719
<v Speaker 2>your DMS, if someone slides into your messages on social media,

0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:51.319
<v Speaker 2>it hits so differently and we hold on to that

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 2>in such a way that we wouldn't if someone did

0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:54.560
<v Speaker 2>it in real life.

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:55.880
<v Speaker 4>Why do you think that is?

0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:57.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I.

0:54:57.440 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Know that for me, it's what I've experienced that when

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:02.680
<v Speaker 2>somebody has said something hurtful on social media, it has

0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:05.120
<v Speaker 2>hit me and hurt me so much more. It just

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:06.959
<v Speaker 2>has a very different way to it.

0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:11.120
<v Speaker 4>Do you guys find that it's like really weird the

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 4>ones that get you? You like why that one? Like?

0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:18.239
<v Speaker 4>Why is that one got me feeling like shit?

0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I think it's because for me, it hits me in

0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:23.759
<v Speaker 2>a vulnerability that I hate that that person has perceived

0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:26.840
<v Speaker 2>me to be somebody who I'm not, or that I

0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:29.400
<v Speaker 2>don't think I am and I think that they've misunderstood me.

0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:31.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh for sure, it's not the place to go for nuance.

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:33.400
<v Speaker 1>It's not.

0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:36.319
<v Speaker 4>It's not. And like, I think the other thing I

0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:38.799
<v Speaker 4>try to think about as well is like, whenever I'm

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:41.520
<v Speaker 4>feeling like everyone hates me, I then remind myself that

0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:44.840
<v Speaker 4>people aren't thinking about us, like and then I like

0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:46.720
<v Speaker 4>get into myself. I'm like, how big is your fucking

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:47.600
<v Speaker 4>ego to think.

0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Like anyone cares about you?

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:52.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? They like the three steps for me, get out

0:55:52.400 --> 0:55:53.280
<v Speaker 4>of yourself, dickhead.

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:57.239
<v Speaker 1>You made a transition from being a professional athlete to

0:55:57.719 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a professional media personality. What was that transition like and

0:56:01.480 --> 0:56:03.120
<v Speaker 1>how did the opportunity even come up?

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:08.640
<v Speaker 4>Honestly? Serendipity fucking walk down the street. So I was

0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:15.360
<v Speaker 4>doing some work for a mentoring Condigenous mentoring organization, and

0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:17.760
<v Speaker 4>I walked in. I was like looking up some kids

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:20.799
<v Speaker 4>and there was Chris Johnson, a former AFOL player won

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:24.520
<v Speaker 4>three premierships at the Brisbane Lines when they were unbelievable.

0:56:24.719 --> 0:56:27.680
<v Speaker 4>Blackfellow as well. So I had a relationship with him.

0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:30.520
<v Speaker 4>We knew who each other were. He was doing commentary

0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:35.880
<v Speaker 4>for Indigenous Radio NRS, the AFL Indigenous broadcast which is

0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:39.680
<v Speaker 4>like community radio, right, And he just on a whim goes, oh,

0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:41.759
<v Speaker 4>would you like to maybe do some special comments? And

0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 4>I was like, why not? And he had that weekend,

0:56:44.600 --> 0:56:46.920
<v Speaker 4>I walked into the box with a couple of fellows

0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:49.560
<v Speaker 4>did some special comments. I was, oh, don't mind that.

0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:53.480
<v Speaker 4>So I was getting paid like next to nothing to

0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 4>do this, and for about a year and a half,

0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:59.239
<v Speaker 4>I'd do three games a week and practicing my broadcasting

0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 4>broadcast to a lot of people. But it wasn't Broadway.

0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:05.000
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't even sort of one street back from Broadway.

0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:07.640
<v Speaker 4>It was probably a bit further than that. And then yeah,

0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:10.719
<v Speaker 4>Triple M got wind of it through Brian Taylor, so

0:57:10.880 --> 0:57:14.560
<v Speaker 4>I'll forever be grateful to him. I walked into a

0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 4>meeting that I didn't realize was a job interview with

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.920
<v Speaker 4>a fellow called Lee Simon who started commentary or football

0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:24.280
<v Speaker 4>broadcasting on FM radio. So he like, you know, jazzed

0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 4>it up, made it entertainment rather than the old ABC stuff.

0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:30.720
<v Speaker 4>I didn't realize that I was getting interviewed by him,

0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:34.360
<v Speaker 4>and then I walked out, and basically two weekends later,

0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:36.720
<v Speaker 4>I was doing special comments on Triple M. And then

0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:39.000
<v Speaker 4>he goes, Tony, you didn't have the on field career

0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 4>to be special comments. You need to learn how to call,

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:43.880
<v Speaker 4>so do play by play stuff. So I taught myself

0:57:43.880 --> 0:57:45.600
<v Speaker 4>how to do that through the help of other people,

0:57:45.800 --> 0:57:47.880
<v Speaker 4>over and over and over again. I'd like to sit

0:57:47.960 --> 0:57:51.640
<v Speaker 4>on the couch, turn the volume down and commentate to TV.

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 4>They got good at it, good enough that Triple M

0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:57.280
<v Speaker 4>would give me a crack, and then Yokye Footy came along.

0:57:57.320 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 4>I had a chance to host that, and then ABC

0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:01.680
<v Speaker 4>like slid into my DMS.

0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:02.920
<v Speaker 1>So you got that, Tony.

0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:07.080
<v Speaker 4>That was when I used Facebook three years ago maybe,

0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:10.040
<v Speaker 4>and they said, hey, ba bah, I don't know if

0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:12.920
<v Speaker 4>you've seen, but there's a job going at ABC. You

0:58:13.000 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 4>think you'd be greatful it. I was like, because I

0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:16.600
<v Speaker 4>don't have like LinkedIn, I don't know how to I

0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:18.480
<v Speaker 4>don't know how to do all that shit. And then

0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:21.200
<v Speaker 4>basically from there everything's kind of snowball. But yeah, it

0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:24.200
<v Speaker 4>took like it was fairbit a grift has got into it.

0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what are you up to now, Tony? Because

0:58:26.040 --> 0:58:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I heard a whisper that you might be off to

0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:30.840
<v Speaker 1>of all places, can't film festival.

0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:33.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm nipping off to Europe for a month, so

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:35.760
<v Speaker 4>that'll be nice. Yeah, I'm just going along to I

0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 4>watch a film. I'm like nervous. I get nervous, like

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:41.520
<v Speaker 4>in a room of people, so I can't imagine what

0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:44.040
<v Speaker 4>it's going to be like. Like, I can't tell you

0:58:44.600 --> 0:58:48.560
<v Speaker 4>how scared I was, and this is not comparing one

0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:51.360
<v Speaker 4>to the other, but like walking the carpet at the Logis,

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:56.560
<v Speaker 4>I was shit scared of everything and everyone. I can't

0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 4>even imagine what this is going to be, like, I've

0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:00.320
<v Speaker 4>got anxiety already.

0:59:00.520 --> 0:59:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you think people realize when they're interviewing you that

0:59:03.000 --> 0:59:04.680
<v Speaker 2>you get nervous or do you think that it just

0:59:04.720 --> 0:59:08.400
<v Speaker 2>comes across as like being reserved and almost cool, calm

0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:09.040
<v Speaker 2>and collected.

0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:10.360
<v Speaker 4>Well, what's your perception.

0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I would never have thought of you as being nervous,

0:59:13.400 --> 0:59:15.480
<v Speaker 2>so that, to me, I mean, is surprising.

0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I think you really actually exude like a calm, shy confidence,

0:59:20.960 --> 0:59:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and I think that that's probably what's really endearing about you.

0:59:23.480 --> 0:59:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why people love you, because whilst you're

0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:30.919
<v Speaker 1>ridiculously popular and desired in the media, you don't really

0:59:30.920 --> 0:59:32.640
<v Speaker 1>give a fuck and you don't really want to talk

0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:35.600
<v Speaker 1>about yourself. And I think that really is why so

0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:36.880
<v Speaker 1>many people are drawn to you.

0:59:37.360 --> 0:59:40.200
<v Speaker 4>Ah, well, that's a massive compliment. I think I've gotten

0:59:40.240 --> 0:59:43.920
<v Speaker 4>better at being able to do the interview shit and

0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 4>give of myself in an interview, but still like protect me,

0:59:49.440 --> 0:59:52.040
<v Speaker 4>if that makes sense. I think when I'm with my friends,

0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:56.240
<v Speaker 4>basically what everyone sees is me. I just try to

0:59:56.320 --> 0:59:59.400
<v Speaker 4>value my privacy as much as I can. Here I

0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:01.080
<v Speaker 4>am doing a w com interview. But you know what

1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:03.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, It's like because I want to be genuine, right,

1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:06.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be a charlatan or some fake

1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:09.200
<v Speaker 4>version of myself. However, I want to protect my core.

1:00:09.560 --> 1:00:13.320
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of funny not comparing myself to like nineties

1:00:13.480 --> 1:00:16.800
<v Speaker 4>film stars or anything like that. But remember like back then,

1:00:16.920 --> 1:00:19.120
<v Speaker 4>no one had access to these people.

1:00:19.320 --> 1:00:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I was literally about to say, you're actually like Australia's

1:00:23.000 --> 1:00:28.240
<v Speaker 1>version of Keanu Reeves. Take that really like popular great

1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:31.040
<v Speaker 1>at what he does, but no one really knows anything

1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:33.080
<v Speaker 1>about him. He just keeps to himself and his I

1:00:33.120 --> 1:00:34.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I guess he's a bit of an enigma

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<v Speaker 1>that fucks off.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably watching Kirby Your Enthusiasm, that'd be a good guess.

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<v Speaker 4>And so like I think there's something really interesting in

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<v Speaker 4>like scarcity. It's also not a strategy either. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>I would feel quite uncomfortable if everyone knew fucking everything

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<v Speaker 4>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You are speaking to the wrong people.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, but no like and everyone's different with that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean speaking about your privacy and look, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to drill into your private life too much, but.

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<v Speaker 1>When was the last time you had sex?

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<v Speaker 4>A couple of red hot questions right there?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Know what I want to know is is what

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<v Speaker 2>is it like when you are a media personality where

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to navigate dating and you're somebody who really

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<v Speaker 2>likes to keep your life private, but people obviously have

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<v Speaker 2>a public perception of who you are and you're one

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<v Speaker 2>of Australia's most desirable men.

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<v Speaker 4>It's tricky, of course, and it kind of has only

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<v Speaker 4>gotten trickier. It's so funny. It's like I just I

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<v Speaker 4>just don't get it either, Like why people are kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like wanno like hang out or like hit me

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<v Speaker 4>up and all that kind of stuff. Like it's always

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<v Speaker 4>amusing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you don't get why people would see you

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<v Speaker 2>on TV and think I would like to date that guy.

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<v Speaker 7>It's always I love that I'm a fucking idiot, Like,

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<v Speaker 7>got to be careful, got to be mindful that everyone's

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<v Speaker 7>in it for the right reason, which.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like is definitely something you'd have to think

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<v Speaker 1>about because I feel like you just literally took over

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<v Speaker 1>our screens all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, do you know what I think? Just to

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<v Speaker 4>sidebar quickly. I think it's because I started on News

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<v Speaker 4>Breakfast in the middle of the pandemic, so people watched

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<v Speaker 4>ABC News Breakfast in particular way more than they would

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<v Speaker 4>have normally, and everyone was at home, so they got

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<v Speaker 4>like seven years worth of normal watching in.

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<v Speaker 1>Like ten months.

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<v Speaker 4>So true, I'm just sorry I'm here again. Fucking here's

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<v Speaker 4>some sport, not COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you just take it on a new venture. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got a new podcast called The Pool Room. Tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about that, Like I feel like, what aren't you taking

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<v Speaker 1>over right now? Tinder?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you just wait, you just wait. So The Poor

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<v Speaker 4>Room's basically kind of like ten minute stories told by me,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're kind of esoteric sporting tales that you probably

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<v Speaker 4>haven't heard, but they're amazing. Like I was loving doing

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<v Speaker 4>it because I was learning so much Like the first

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<v Speaker 4>one's about a Japanese marathon runner that went missing in

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<v Speaker 4>the Olympic Games in the marathon, like I was only

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<v Speaker 4>found years later.

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<v Speaker 1>Slow was he running to get lost in a marathon?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think you've got lost?

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<v Speaker 4>Glacier Glacier, Or like Voodoo and the Soccer Rouse and

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<v Speaker 4>how there was a curse over the soccer Rous done

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<v Speaker 4>by like a shaman and they didn't qualify for the

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<v Speaker 4>World Cup for like thirty three years, Like weird shit.

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<v Speaker 4>That is great for Like, if you're in the uber

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<v Speaker 4>on the way to the pub, and you want to

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<v Speaker 4>rip a yarn to everyone, slap that podcast in, listen

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<v Speaker 4>to it for ten minutes on your journey, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you'll be holding court in not time.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens though, when the podcast gets so popular that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's listening to it and someone turns up and he's

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<v Speaker 1>like tries to drop a knowledge bomb, and everyone's like, mate,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you just listen to that all the way in.

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<v Speaker 4>That's kind of nirvana. I think, yeah, it's a fucking yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I know. You make up a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>tall tale, bit of a furfy and then someone who

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't know that it's come from you tells it back

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<v Speaker 4>to you. Yeah, boy, Like yeah, everyone loves that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of shit because it's like, yeah, short sport, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>human story is told through the prism.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also sport that like someone like me who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>froth sport would also be interested in listening to because

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like they're coming to these mysteries of how

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<v Speaker 1>who done it? Kind of a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Tony, thank you so much for coming and for doing

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<v Speaker 2>the pod. You have been on our hit list for

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<v Speaker 2>a very very long time.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry that it took me so long to come

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<v Speaker 4>and have a yarn, but that was really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, guys, it is time for our suck and

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<v Speaker 2>our sweet, our highlight and our low light of each

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<v Speaker 2>and every week.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go first. I'm sure you've thought about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Lasia eyebrows. I'm an eyelash. Yeah, Mysuki said, I'm hate myself.

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<v Speaker 1>My suck is my suck for probably in all lot

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<v Speaker 1>of sty this week, last week, this week, next week

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<v Speaker 1>is probably gonna be my face because it is burning off.

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<v Speaker 1>It is very painful and it's all I can think

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<v Speaker 1>about all day because it's so it just hurts. But

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<v Speaker 1>also I don't want to scare anyone off from doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not debilitating, it doesn't hurt enough that you can't

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<v Speaker 1>get on with your day. It's just that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>constant bit of a throb. So I don't want anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, I'm never doing that treatment. It is

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<v Speaker 1>very manageable.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, let's be real, it is so one fine in

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<v Speaker 2>comparison to the alternate, which is having skin cancer. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I would choose this rudely for a good three week

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<v Speaker 2>period over the other the alternate option.

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<v Speaker 1>My suite is I have booked some tickets up north

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of weeks with my boyfriend. Band is coming.

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<v Speaker 1>As you guys know, I'm very excited because he hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been here like I always go to him, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>only been to Australia once when I met him, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was on a football tour thing, so they were

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<v Speaker 1>very strict with all they could do.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that Ben saw at that time was

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<v Speaker 2>the inside of brids bedroom, so like you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't really seen Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Inside of Britain no, So I'm really excited to show

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<v Speaker 1>him Australia. And it's funny. I woke up this morning

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<v Speaker 1>and it's so funny because he's Swiss. I forget that

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<v Speaker 1>foreigners think this. But he sent me a video this

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<v Speaker 1>morning of some people playing football and kangaroos like playing

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<v Speaker 1>football and bouncing around on like obviously an anomaly, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>like a very rare occurrence for the kangaroos to be

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<v Speaker 1>playing on the pitch. And I forget that foreigners think

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff's normal. They think that you go walk down

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<v Speaker 1>the street in Sydney and there are kangaroos hopping around.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think people actually think people walked down

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<v Speaker 2>to Sydney Street and that there's a bloody koala on

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<v Speaker 2>the Center Point tower.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think they do because all that stuff goes viral,

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<v Speaker 1>like one video goes viral, and they think it's normal.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had to say to him, look like they're

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<v Speaker 1>not everywhere, like we will see them, because I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to take him to my hometown of Port mcquarie, and

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<v Speaker 1>they are everywhere there, like across from my house on

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<v Speaker 1>the golf courses. Kangaroos are everywhere in put go down

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<v Speaker 1>to Green Point, done stuff and they're literally everywhere. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm super ex that's my sweet and so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>super excited. I'm literally counting down the days. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can't wait to actually meet him properly because

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<v Speaker 2>I've only met Ben Club only in passing at BRIT's

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<v Speaker 2>house when he was coming over for a booty call on.

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<v Speaker 1>The first yeah, the first second booty call. We are, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I met him on a booty call.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I can meet him as your booty boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can go to the club and and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be so experienced I'm going to burn a

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<v Speaker 2>hole in that dance flo Anyway, Okay, my sunk for

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<v Speaker 2>the week is that I am absolutely fucking wrecked. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know that that is not very exciting to listen to.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I tell you that the training schedule at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment for dancing is like twenty five to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eight hours a week, that's just on top of my

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<v Speaker 2>normal work.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've still been doing radio full time job like that,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty hours a week is a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been mental so that I've still been doing radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still doing podcasting. I haven't been into the Tony

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<v Speaker 2>May offices as much, but my sister is being doing

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute rockstar stellar job of like compensating for that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of work. But it's been a huge undertaking to

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<v Speaker 2>do this show. And I don't want to say that

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<v Speaker 2>that's the suck because it sounds like I'm not enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm absolutely fucking loving it. I'm loving getting back into exercise,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm loving dancing. But I am truly exhausted. I have

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<v Speaker 2>found muscles in my body that I in my thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seven years of life never even knew it existed. But

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<v Speaker 2>I am looking forward to having abs in my forehead

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<v Speaker 2>by the time this intuition.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think you'll stay on the fitness train after this?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you feel like you've gone to a point where

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<v Speaker 1>now yeah, because it's such hard work to start, so

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<v Speaker 1>now you started.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know we joke about it, but I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I never really got back into fitness after having kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I would do like little random bursts of it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I never got back into any sort of consistent fitness.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so nice to be exercising again and feeling like

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<v Speaker 2>how invigorated you feel from that, and like how it feels. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So even though I'm exhausted, on the flip side of

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<v Speaker 2>that is like I feel really.

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<v Speaker 1>Good I don't know, it's a weird oxymoron. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>My sweet for the week, though, is that it's all happening.

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<v Speaker 2>My sweet for the week is that we've had costume rehearsals,

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<v Speaker 2>that the show's been announced, that I can talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it finally, and I don't know how to be like, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got this really exciting announcement.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's day two two.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an influencer and I'm announcing something really soon.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just excited that I can talk about it

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<v Speaker 2>because this has been this huge part of my life

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<v Speaker 2>that I've been doing for the past four weeks or

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<v Speaker 2>five weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you better win because I put bets on sports

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<v Speaker 1>bet have you? Yeah? I dropped teap someone. How much

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<v Speaker 1>do I win?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How much would you win? If I win? We're not

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<v Speaker 1>paid much. I'm joking that I don't haven't even seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would put bets on you.

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<v Speaker 2>I would think that if there is a sports bet running,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be considerable for me to win because it's

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<v Speaker 2>quite an unlikely occurrence.

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<v Speaker 1>There would one hundred sports but the sports bet on

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<v Speaker 1>can you bet on yourself? Yeah? Queen? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>On that note, Hey guys, I hope that you loved

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<v Speaker 2>the episode. You can join in the discussion at Life

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<v Speaker 2>on Cut discussion group. You can also join us on

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok you know Instagram, all all the stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking some more dances of your dancers and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Life on Cut podcasts, We're going to be doing

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok dancers because we're dancers.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm not, but I will shake my booty behind

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<v Speaker 1>you doing the drive. You'll be my backup dance.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is it from us.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the drill. Tell your mama, tell you down

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<v Speaker 1>around your dog. And I can't say it if I

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<v Speaker 1>don't say it, do you mom? Tell your dad? Tell

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<v Speaker 1>you mamma, tell your dad to tell my friends, tell

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<v Speaker 1>your dog and share the love to your mom, to

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<v Speaker 1>your dad, to you? What is it to your mom?

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<v Speaker 4>Tell your.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks? Case you, I've only said it five hundred times.

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<v Speaker 1>To you, mum, te your dad, tell you dog, tell

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<v Speaker 1>your friends and share a love because we love.

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<v Speaker 2>Even that sounded weird to me. I was like, are

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<v Speaker 2>you sure that's it? Don't you tell your dad, tell

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<v Speaker 2>your dog, tell your friends? Why would you tell your

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<v Speaker 2>dog before you tell your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to get the downloads from them? Are

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<v Speaker 1>we Delilah listeners? Have you seen that picture of the

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<v Speaker 1>headphones she protects me about. Tell your friends to fall

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<v Speaker 1>work anyway, We're gonna go h