1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda gam Nation. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: Well she's the name on everyone's lips this morning. A 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: shocking commitment ceremony last night saw Josh be let go 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: from the experiment, with his wife Melissa still wanting to stay. 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: What went on? It seemed quite extraordinary. Joining us in 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: the studio right now to update us on where all 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 2: of this leaves her is Melissa, Hello, Melissa, good morning, 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 2: Good morning. How we'll start with this. How have you 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: felt watching this so called experiment play out on television? 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 2: To live it and film it is one thing to 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 2: watch it go to air? How has it been? 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 3: You know? To watch it back last night is heart 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: wrenching because I can see how people can you know, 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: see how upset Josh was. It was even upsetting for 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: me to watch because I have to say I was 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: completely blindsided. When people say how did she not know? 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: Or how did she not know how he was feeling? 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: I'm serious. I did not know what we do These 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: things called boxes, so like he would break down in 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: these boxes, And I said it to my girlfriends. I 21 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: felt like I was sleeping with like a secret assassin 22 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 3: because he would break down in these boxes and then 23 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: come back to me as if nothing happened. 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so well that's what he said when you were 25 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 4: intimate with him on your wedding night, he said that 26 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 4: he didn't do anything. 27 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: And you said, how bad was that? 28 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 4: Just so, but also I kind of got where he 29 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 4: was coming from, because he's not a guy that goes 30 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 4: on TV and then says I just had sex with the. 31 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: One hundred percent one. Thing's first, we're in reality TV. 32 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: Parts of your relationship is intimacy, you know, Like, so 33 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: it's not all about your relationship. But of course reality 34 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: TV are gonna ask you, has he not watched the 35 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: show before? Have you been intimate with your wife? You 36 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: could have just said yes and move forward. I feel 37 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: like my character in the show was already planned out early. 38 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: I feel like that they knew that I was comfortable 39 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: to talk about sex, that I was open, and maybe 40 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: I was too open and too vulnerable and I just 41 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: shared too much yep. And then they had paired me 42 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: with Josh that didn't want to talk about it, like 43 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: I didn't even know his religious back, Like if he 44 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: was that religious or that uncomfortable, why did he never 45 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: mention on our wedding night that he wanted to not 46 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: talk about it? So it was on day five on 47 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: our honeymoon that he was like, oh my god, you 48 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: know all she wants to do is have sex or 49 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 3: talk about That's not the case. It was just like 50 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: I was open to talk about it. And then he 51 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: was trying to say that because he's religious, that he's 52 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: a perfect gentleman. Well, that was all news to me. 53 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: So do you think it's a couple of things there. 54 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: You say that you think that they had decided you 55 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: were going to be the one that was open to 56 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: talk about sex. You were going to be the freaking 57 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: the sheets girl. Yes, and that they deliberately pared you 58 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: with someone who you would have conflict about that. 59 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I think it was just designed to just explode 60 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 3: and however long that we were going to last in 61 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: the experiment, it was a matter of time. So there 62 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: was lots of times in the experiment that I was 63 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 3: compassionate and I was crying and caring. But you don't 64 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 3: see those sides. It was purely focused around sex and 65 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: when we were having sex, and when we weren't having sex, 66 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 3: they weren't asking it. Had we been to lunch, what'd 67 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: be spoken about. They don't want to air any of that. 68 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: It was just purely about us having always confrontations. 69 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 4: Right, and that thing where you said freaking the sheets, 70 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 4: which are we've dined out? 71 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: All? Well, I look like the girl next door, but 72 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: I like to see myself actually as a little freaking 73 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: the sheets. 74 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: Was that you that came up with that or did 75 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: someone feed that to you? 76 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: No? Yeah, so I was asked a question. We did 77 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: a two hour interview at my house. It was amazing 78 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: about life and love and why I'm on the experiment 79 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 3: for and then at the very end it was like, so, 80 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: how do you see yourself? Are you vanilla or a 81 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: freaking the sheets? So instantly I was like, I'm a 82 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 3: freaking the sheet. 83 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: You's got to save Nill. 84 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: Wow. 85 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: Well yeah, but then they did set me up with 86 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: someone very opposite, so we were just a time bomb 87 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: that was waiting to go off. 88 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: Wow. 89 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: At the end of every season there are people like 90 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: you who say I wasn't happy with the way I 91 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: was depicted and this experiment wasn't sincere, and yet people 92 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: still want to go on the show. 93 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: Wow. 94 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: What I would say to any future contestants seeing it 95 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: in the truth, just be what you're going to do 96 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: is just be authentically you because you can't lie. The 97 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: truth does eventually come out. And you know, obviously I 98 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: do like to have sex with my husband. But where 99 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: these little rabbit hole's gone on, you know that I 100 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: want to have sex with multiple men and that I'm 101 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 3: up for anything is very very fast stretched. 102 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: And how does that manifest for you now when you're 103 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: out in the streets. 104 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: It's disgusting, It's really bad. So this is the thing 105 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: where it can be very damaging because I would hate 106 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 3: for all men in the world to think that I'm 107 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 3: up for anything at any time, because that's not what 108 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 3: I was about. 109 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: You widows coming up and say, hey, there's a Melissa, 110 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: she's up for it. 111 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: Well, this is it I do. And I have had 112 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: people that have come to my business. It's really actually 113 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: quite awkward. Thank God, I'm not wasn't there because I'm 114 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: actually not in the salon anymore. So anyone that wants 115 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: to come to the head dressing sound, I'm not there, 116 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: so they'll never find me there. But obviously going forward, 117 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 3: it opens a real can of worms for you know, 118 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: security and you know questioning. Yeah, sure, I want to 119 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: have sex with my husband two to three times a week. 120 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: My husband not multiple men or not an invite for 121 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: everyone to have a free for all, and it's. 122 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: Really scary fye for all. 123 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, lucky you're a strong person because this could break people. 124 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: Agree. I really believe my resilience to this is phenomenal 125 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: and this is why I want to be I will 126 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 3: go forward with this. You won't see me backing away 127 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: from it. Hopefully something amazing comes out and people come 128 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: towards me and say, hey, she's very clear, she's very honest. 129 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: You know, she's very sex empowering for men and for women, 130 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: you know, like, it's not I don't feel at any 131 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: time on the experiment that Josh was ever haggled to 132 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: have sex with me. He you know, the handful of 133 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: times that we did, it was completely like yes, absolutely, 134 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 3: there was no awkwardness about that. And that's what's really 135 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: hurtful that they're painting all the public is all these 136 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: trolls are painting me in this monster. 137 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: Also when you watch the show, I feel for him 138 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: as well, because he's coming across as a bit of 139 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 4: a dart and it's probably not and that's a bit unfair. 140 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but Josh and interviews. I tried to go back 141 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: to think you know, why did they match us? And 142 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 3: they were saying that because I'm, you know, so extrovert 143 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: or I'm so confident, and then Josh is not that 144 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: that could I can see how that can be a 145 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: good match, but when you don't know what the other 146 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 3: one's saying behind the other one's back, and then and 147 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 3: then you just watch it like I'm sure that they 148 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: saw this fuel going two different ways early on the piece, 149 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: but they just it just kept rolling. 150 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: I find watching it, you're more prepared for this show 151 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: than he. 152 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I don't know, maybe this is what Josh 153 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: has to come. I've been out of my marriage for 154 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: ten years. Josh is just separated with his wife, and 155 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: I don't think he's even legally divorced. I don't feel 156 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: this is just my opinion, but who am I, you know, 157 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: I don't feel like maybe he was ready to come 158 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: on such a huge experiment, and I just think it 159 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 3: broke him very very quickly. And I just feel like 160 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 3: if I had the opportunity to be with someone more 161 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 3: like myself or someone that was really ready, because come on, 162 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: we're in the media and the social life, like you're 163 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: going to get even if you're the good guy or 164 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: the bad guy. You're going to get a lot of heat. 165 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: It's got to be robust. 166 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 3: You've got to be ready, and I just feel like 167 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 3: he wasn't ready and now it looks like that at 168 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: my expense. 169 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: And do you feel Melissa, if there was a button 170 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: in front of you that says yes or no, would 171 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: you have chosen to go on this show? What button 172 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: would you press? 173 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: No? No? Why say no? I was saying like, yes, 174 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: the button yes? Okay, Actually, Amanda, that's a good question. 175 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: Sometimes I say yes, but then sometimes what I've seen 176 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: last night, now I say no. Because they edit or 177 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: they edited, they only show parts of what they want 178 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: the public to see. So now that you're portrayed as 179 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: like a sex pest or like you just have to 180 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: be look anyone going anyone going on reality TV, you 181 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: just have to be sure and comfortable in yourself and 182 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: really strong because however they're going to make it seem 183 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: or only what they're going to show is what you're 184 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: portrayed to be. You know, a lot of people have 185 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: a lot of time now to mend the dammy, which 186 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: thank god, I'm strong enough that I feel like I 187 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: will come back from this and that the public and 188 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: the world will see an amazing human that I am, 189 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: and kind and compassionate. It might take some time, but 190 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: they're going to see a very different version of me 191 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: in real life compared to what they've seen. 192 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: On So what happens with you? Now? Where do you go? Now? 193 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: Well, this is it publicity? 194 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: Well not only fans. You can't know. 195 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: I have to let all the fans know out there, 196 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: not that I'm against only fans at all, but you 197 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: will not see me on those platforms. That is a yet, 198 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 3: you will not see me on any of those platforms 199 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: at all. 200 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 4: I just found it extraordinary last year Olivia, that girl 201 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 4: that was on there, she was a teacher, student, teacher 202 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 4: or something, and then all of a sudden she's on 203 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: only fans. 204 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: And I thought, if you said to. 205 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: That girl when she was doing a university or whatever 206 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 4: to be a teacher, Hey, Lvy, here's what's going to 207 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 4: happen to you. In five years, You're going to be 208 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 4: doing acts on only. You're going to be important to 209 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 4: the same thing. 210 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: And Melissa's just said is you can't control the narrative. 211 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: So you come out of this experiment, you think these 212 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: are the bits I can control so I can see 213 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: why people would go this bit. I can ow and 214 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: you're going to paint me is that I'll own. I 215 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: can own my own narrative here. So Melissa, I just 216 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: wish you well in resetting who you are, and I'm 217 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: glad you're a robust person because it's not for the fainthearted, 218 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: is I agree? 219 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: And there will be more to see of me, So 220 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: I will not be going away anytime soon. 221 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: Well, great, well, Melissa, thank you for coming here. 222 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 3: Thank you. 223 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 4: Look after Mary First Start is back again on the 224 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: Channel night tonight.