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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: A propos of Tina Turner. What did you think of

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Speaker 2: the Tina Turner tribute at the NRL Grand Final?

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Speaker 1: I thought it was great.

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Speaker 2: Ruba Nuwenya, who we've interviewed and is fantastic, she's Tina

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Speaker 2: in the Tina Turner musical moment.

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Speaker 1: I thought it made perfect sense to have that as

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Speaker 1: the pre show entertainment. I thought it was great and

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Speaker 1: just in terms of so she was a pre show

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Speaker 1: entertainment for the NRL. The AFL had kiss. I saw

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Speaker 1: that Foxtell has a thing. How did you rate the

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Speaker 1: Grand Final and then Fox League? How did you rate

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Speaker 1: the NRL pregame show. All that does is encourages people

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Speaker 1: to be negative, and then those tweets from missus Bumnuts

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Speaker 1: get put into mainstream media and it makes it look

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Speaker 1: like a whole lot of people weren't happy. I think

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Speaker 1: that's the wrong spirit for all of this. I thought

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Speaker 1: they were just great.

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Speaker 2: Well, this was Ruba.

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Speaker 1: And the crowd did see if.

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Speaker 2: I was worried about with her with that wig near the.

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Speaker 1: Pyrotechnics, look never upseteen.

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Speaker 2: I did feel for Mark Gable though at halftime they

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Speaker 2: got Mark Gable from the choir boys to do a

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Speaker 2: run to Paradise, and they cut him off half weight

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Speaker 2: and went to some sort of ad.

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Speaker 1: Would run to the ads.

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Speaker 2: Make Gable, that's his big opportunity right there. And he's

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Speaker 2: had a really good Kiss killed.

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Speaker 1: So good sir. I'm going to see them on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I'm so looking forward to that show.

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Speaker 2: I had this flashback watching Kiss playing at the Grand

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Speaker 2: Final in Melbourne there. I remember nineteen seventy nine thereabouts.

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Speaker 2: My cousin lived in Melbourne and we're off to see

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Speaker 2: a Collingwood and Carlton game at the MCG and we're

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Speaker 2: just walking along and Kiss was so huge and he

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Speaker 2: was a bit older than me, so he was righting

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Speaker 2: the kiss and I was because he was riding in

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Speaker 2: the kiss. I was riding the Kiss and we're just

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Speaker 2: going on to it him. When Kiss coming to a straight,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be the biggest thing in the world.

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Speaker 2: And I was just watching guy just said this, it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know those memories in Amber. I thought, who would

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Speaker 2: have thought in twenty twenty three, Kiss will be playing

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Speaker 2: at this very stadium that we're walking into.

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Speaker 1: Amazing?

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Speaker 2: Who would who would have thunker?

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Speaker 1: I thought they were great with all little kids running around.

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Speaker 1: I did see that they interviewed Gene Simmons before the

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Speaker 1: game and he did this usual thing of saying, we

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Speaker 1: love coming to Australia. Who probably got a couple of

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Speaker 1: kids here. And you think they first toured in nineteen eighty,

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Speaker 1: those children would be forty four. The yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 1: So let that trope go, Gene, you're making yourself sound

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Speaker 1: like an idiot. I think they were brilliant. They were fantastic,

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Speaker 1: these little kids.

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Speaker 2: The only thing those little kids.

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Speaker 1: Being so safe for those zinc on their faces.

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Speaker 2: Were the professional dancing kids, the kids that have gone

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Speaker 2: to all the dance academies.

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Speaker 1: They were right into it.

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Speaker 2: And then there were some filling kids who would have

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Speaker 2: been kids like me. They would have said a little

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Speaker 2: bit of caller who wants to put makeup on their

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Speaker 2: face and run around like a nut the CG.

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Speaker 1: Brendan, you're fifty five.

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Speaker 2: Stop. That would have been the greatest thing in the world.

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Speaker 2: They missed out on all Stanley smashing up his guitar.

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Speaker 1: He gave them plenty of notice. He was kind of

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Speaker 1: whinding his arm round. Here it comes here, it comes

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Speaker 1: straight to the ads.

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Speaker 2: The AFL Grand Final. That was great, heartbreaking if you're

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Speaker 2: a Queenslander.

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Speaker 1: And then that game it looked like let's talk about

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Speaker 1: the NRL Grand Final. It looked like it was all over.

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Speaker 1: And then what a miraculous thing. I've been reading about

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Speaker 1: Nathan Cleary and they're saying it wasn't a miracle. It's

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Speaker 1: his hard work. They said, he's like a blacksmith. He

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Speaker 1: puts it together and then hones it and practices it. It's

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Speaker 1: such a skill set.

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Speaker 2: And when you talk about football brain, he certainly has

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Speaker 2: a football yeah. Because a lot of times I'm watching

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Speaker 2: a league game and I go, why is that.

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Speaker 1: They're seeing a different matrix in their heads? They'm seeing

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Speaker 1: the field in a different way.

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Speaker 2: My mate email goes, well, clearly he's the windows off

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Speaker 2: the side of you know, and you get what. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: I don't understand the rules. Nathan Cleary understands the rules

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Speaker 2: and he's got that football brain. And then when I

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Speaker 2: watched the replay of the game again yesterday on Fox to.

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Speaker 1: See if the Sharks might win.

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Speaker 2: If they win, I thought, oh, yeah, I get it

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Speaker 2: that bit where you know, when I was cleaning the

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Speaker 2: barbecue when it looked like it was all over for Penrith.

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Speaker 2: That was the bit where Nathan Cleary stealed himself. He did,

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Speaker 2: but that forty twenty kick that he did and he

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Speaker 2: caught Reese walshoff guard. There was a part there where

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Speaker 2: the Broncos players you could see them thinking, oh, we

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Speaker 2: got this in the bag, and Ree Walsh was started

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Speaker 2: to look up into the crowd and he was doing

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Speaker 2: a little bit of show baiting and that's where Nathan

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Speaker 2: Cleary just came in and stealed himself. And that's where

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Speaker 2: the I guess his experience in the Grand Final really

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Speaker 2: came to the fore.

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Speaker 1: I was discussing this is my children over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Would you rather lose as a player, lose by two

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Speaker 1: points or by thirty? And they both said thirty, which

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Speaker 1: I thought was interesting. As a viewer, you wanted to

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Speaker 1: be a tight game and exciting, but as a player,

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Speaker 1: when you're only losing by a few points, every breath

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Speaker 1: that you took would be analyzed and you'd be so

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Speaker 1: hard on yourself.

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Speaker 2: If you lose by.

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Speaker 1: Thirty, you think well, what could we have done? But

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Speaker 1: still I would rather lose by two to think that

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Speaker 1: we came so close that we gave it our best.

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Speaker 2: No, No, you'd rather lose by heaps, that's what they said. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather be working out my mad Monday at halftime.

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Speaker 1: Travel agents watch watching a new body get out of

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Speaker 1: there for halftime.

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Speaker 2: What's your country's stance on Noodi runs and shoeies?

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Speaker 1: Would you be okay with that?

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Speaker 2: But really that was just great football entertainment. I like

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Speaker 2: the stance, and he's come out and supported the Yes camp.

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Speaker 1: That's very powerful.

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Speaker 2: Everyone knows where we are on this and I don't

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Speaker 2: want to be one of those people that bangs on

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Speaker 2: about it, but well I do. I want to bang

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Speaker 2: on about it, but I don't want it to become

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Speaker 2: it's become so obtuse. It's become so obfiscated by the media.

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Speaker 2: The media has cocked this up so much.

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Speaker 1: So let's hope that clear lesson clear saying let's say and.

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Speaker 2: What he said it just it just makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Well Well done everyone involved