WEBVTT - Britt's Big Move & McLaren Man Can We Have $50k? 

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was recorded on cameragle Land.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi guys, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another episode of lifeOne Pad. I'm Brittany and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Laura, and I don't often do this, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>coming straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot out of the gate, heavy sweating, huge, humid, huge news, pulsating.

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<v Speaker 2>I am pulsating. I was pulsating. Nothing got me hotter

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<v Speaker 2>than what I'm about to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Covered in pisada, rolling around in some garlic. No garlic

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<v Speaker 1>gives me a yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I would never do that, Darlick blokes me. It makes

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<v Speaker 2>me fat.

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<v Speaker 1>Parmesan cheese. This is not farting news.

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<v Speaker 2>Officially, we don't live in Romania anymore. I'm sorry, Dracula.

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<v Speaker 1>You were great while it lasted. I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>ever really liked it that much.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you were trying to feign excitement, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when you know you don't like something but you're just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to keep positive.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't my top destination.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't dislike it, but it was never somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, fuck, yes, like I get to go

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<v Speaker 2>in Romania for a couple of weeks. But I made

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<v Speaker 2>the most of it, for sure, and like I did

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<v Speaker 2>what I could do there and I tried to be

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<v Speaker 2>a tourist and.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was it was just whatever. But we no

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<v Speaker 1>longer live in Romania.

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<v Speaker 2>As of yesterday, we officially live in Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the choga la pasta.

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<v Speaker 3>For someone who talks about how you used to live

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<v Speaker 3>in Italy for an entire year. Your Italian isn't great,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can work on it, and I think one

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<v Speaker 3>day you're going to be fate.

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<v Speaker 2>Order. I just ordered ice creams and a bottle of

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<v Speaker 2>wine with one glass.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what she needed to learn Italian. I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 1>you got the important things down pat though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I learned when I got there. How

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<v Speaker 2>to ask for the toilet the time, that's the time,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the time please? And then how to order wine.

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<v Speaker 2>So in serious news, yeah, Ben just yesterday moved to is.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I'm so proud of him. It is the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>best move of his career. It's one of the top

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<v Speaker 2>five leagues in the world. Like, this is the most

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<v Speaker 2>amazing move for him. So he lives in Genoi. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how you pronounce it. But if you don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>well it actually is, Genoa's you know, like Genoa.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pronounced genoa with a deeper voice gemois genoi.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot. Oh, there's hot, it's hot genoi. So it's really exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>So he signed there, it was just announced.

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<v Speaker 1>He signed that yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>He had like twenty four hours notice to move, and

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<v Speaker 2>he literally called me and he's like, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think about Italy?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, my panties are off? Lanies are off?

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<v Speaker 1>Signed me up, signed that toddline right there. I will

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<v Speaker 1>do it if I have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, so I came over to BRIT's house yesterday and

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<v Speaker 3>this is when you told me the news as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And it does feel like it all happened very very quickly,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's because it did. Are we allowed to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the speed of which Ben left his house, didn't

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<v Speaker 3>pack anything, left a completely full apartment in Romania, and

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<v Speaker 3>flew to Italy and now lives in Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a wild thing to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Your head around that that is how someone could be transferred.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually crazy, and that's not just him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's normal.

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<v Speaker 2>That's standard, like football transfers. When something comes through and

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<v Speaker 2>a team says that they want you, it's usually negotiated

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<v Speaker 2>in like twenty four hours and then they want you

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<v Speaker 2>the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. So he still has a whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Apartment in Romania with all his stuff. He literally packed

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<v Speaker 2>one bag and one carry on of his life and

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<v Speaker 2>flew the next morning. But I was like, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter how quick it is, we'll sort out your apartment

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<v Speaker 2>in Romania.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, I don't care as long as I now

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<v Speaker 3>live in Italy, so long as my next holiday is

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<v Speaker 3>not Romania and it's next to Positano.

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<v Speaker 1>I googled it. First thing I go with Genera.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, would you like to go to on

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<v Speaker 2>a day trip to Positano?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yes, I will.

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<v Speaker 3>This is also the reason why so when Britain Ben

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<v Speaker 3>first started dating and then we like flirted with the

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<v Speaker 3>idea of you doing records from overseas. We got all

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<v Speaker 3>the equipment for Life on Cup for you to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to record overseas. And this is the reason why

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<v Speaker 3>it's still in Scotland because I don't know where it

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<v Speaker 3>is now. Like Ben had to move so quickly to

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<v Speaker 3>Romania and you got to Romania, You're like, where's my stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, oh, it's in Scotland. And now he's

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<v Speaker 1>in Italy.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's just leaving off trail of stuff all over

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<v Speaker 3>the world no matter where he goes, he actually is.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I go to visit him and it's in

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<v Speaker 2>record time, I will take stuff now because I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a caught in Romania, and I've got a microphone in Scotland,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've got who knows where anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Is, which just means you're prepared no matter where you

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<v Speaker 3>end up, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>But that means we can all go and do.

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<v Speaker 2>A trip in Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I am so keen. Do we have any listeners

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<v Speaker 1>in Italy the DM so then we can tax it

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<v Speaker 1>after a Yeah, we just need one person's proof.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if we got over there, we pick up

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<v Speaker 3>a business card. I think that that's enough, right, Maybe not?

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<v Speaker 3>Since I've now talked about it on the.

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<v Speaker 4>Podybeah, I've just opened up the back end of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Last month, one hundred and seventy listens came from Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>That counts one hundred and seventy people. That's old. Sorry, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>ye're true.

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<v Speaker 3>That could be one person listening to one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>seventy episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>So we need baby that one Italian listener.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got one it's probably an Australian just traveling through

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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not even there now.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we are very happy for Ben, and in particular,

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<v Speaker 3>we are very very excited for our tax deduction work

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<v Speaker 3>trip that we are absolutely having in Positano as a mandatory. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, lots of things have been happening in my household.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually that's a lie. Nothing's been really happening in my household.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I just feel like I'm living vicariously through my

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<v Speaker 3>husband because I have been put in charge of managing

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<v Speaker 3>his socials and making sure that people vote for him

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm a celebrity. To get me out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt's now been gone for two weeks, and tonight, because

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<v Speaker 3>we're recording this on Tuesday, he is doing one of

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<v Speaker 3>those fucked up eating challenges.

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<v Speaker 2>Praying for him. It's the worst thing I've ever done

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<v Speaker 2>in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why I think it's a bit rigged, because

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<v Speaker 3>that was the one thing that he said he did

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<v Speaker 3>not want to do, like that he would absolutely die

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<v Speaker 3>if he had to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I said the same thing, though I don't think it's rigged.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just there's just there's so many of them and

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<v Speaker 2>there's not that many people in the jungle. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>the way the cookie or the nipper crumbles.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just how the anus falls apart, just how they

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<v Speaker 1>cooked in your mouth. That's in your mouth. But yeah, look,

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to sneak it in there and say go

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<v Speaker 1>vote for him. We'll put it in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be shocked if he doesn't vomit. It is.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot explain how rank I was beside myself upset

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<v Speaker 2>at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was upset.

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<v Speaker 2>I was genuinely upset that I had even before I

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<v Speaker 2>went there, like the anticipation, because you know it's made

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<v Speaker 2>to be so you vomit. I was really beside myself

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<v Speaker 2>and the stink bugs. Well, then they cut out my

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<v Speaker 2>projectile vomiting. It was too much for TV. They didn't

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<v Speaker 2>air half of it because I was like, I coughed.

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<v Speaker 2>At one point I went I gagged.

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<v Speaker 1>I went like this, look like.

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<v Speaker 2>That, and a bit flung out and hit Roberts Shoe

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<v Speaker 2>and they couldn't air it. They couldn't air it hit

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<v Speaker 2>robert Shoe and I was like, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel sick even thinking about it, and the thought

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<v Speaker 3>that I have to watch that tonight at the same

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<v Speaker 3>time as eating dinner, because.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, that's a choice.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to eat your dinner at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>What's like seven o'clock, it's like dinner time, Tucker, Tuesday's

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<v Speaker 3>dinner time.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait half an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Laws, you don't have to be getting into your ravioli

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<v Speaker 2>while he's eaten his nipples.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, I'm a celebrity is taking over my household, and

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<v Speaker 3>I have been watching it very religiously. However, there is

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<v Speaker 3>another show which has just taken over everybody else's lives.

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<v Speaker 3>And normally I am the one on this podcast who

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<v Speaker 3>is an absolute devout watcher and consumer of Married at

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<v Speaker 3>First Sight, But this year the tables have been old,

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<v Speaker 3>turned around and switch a rude.

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<v Speaker 2>The turn has tabled, and now I watched Maths. I

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<v Speaker 2>never thought I would say that did you hate it?

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<v Speaker 1>Or did you love it? I think both simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 2>Both can be true. I couldn't stop watching it like

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<v Speaker 2>a train wreck. But nothing has made me so enraged

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<v Speaker 2>like I was so angry. And that's why I remember

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<v Speaker 2>that I didn't like to watch in the past because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need the anger in my life. There's one

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<v Speaker 2>person in the show that I have not disliked so

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<v Speaker 2>fast in my life. And it was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>bride's sisters. So one of the brides, Lauren, were introduced

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<v Speaker 2>to her. She seems lovely at the start. I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>say at the start, but I don't align with what

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<v Speaker 2>she aligns with. She really wants to be like nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>twenties bride. She wants to be at home and cook

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<v Speaker 2>and clean and he goes to work, and she wants

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<v Speaker 2>very stereotypical old school gender roles. Couldn't care less if

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you want, Like, if that's what you want

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<v Speaker 2>and you find a partner that that's what you want,

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<v Speaker 2>that's amazing. But that's not what I aligned with obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was her sister.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's Lauren's sister, Tamara, who was I guess, almost

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<v Speaker 2>the star of the first episode in a way. She

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<v Speaker 2>really stole the show, and she was just the most

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<v Speaker 2>horrible person that I thought, this can't be real, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>surely you can't be like that on national television at

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<v Speaker 2>your sister's wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>I did flick over.

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<v Speaker 3>So as soon as Celebrity had finished, I flicked over

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<v Speaker 3>to maths and I caught the end tail of this,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't believe for one second that that wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>heavily produced. Like I don't actually think that there is

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<v Speaker 3>anyone in this world who has that little self awareness

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<v Speaker 3>that would behave the way that she behaved at the wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw that there was like drama around her getting

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<v Speaker 3>the wrong meal and the way she spoke to the

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<v Speaker 3>weight stuff, and then like she was heckling her own

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<v Speaker 3>sister in the first dance. This is my only grite

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<v Speaker 3>with Maths because I love Maths. I think it is

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<v Speaker 3>too overproduced now because I think they know that they

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<v Speaker 3>need these really extreme characters for people to have the

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<v Speaker 3>outrage that you've obviously felt, brit But I think if

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<v Speaker 3>you've watched enough seasons of it, you start to see

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<v Speaker 3>the patterns and you start to see that actually those

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<v Speaker 3>people are playing a specific character, and I think she's

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely been egged up to be that person.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way that if their relationship, the sister's relationship

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<v Speaker 2>was really like that and she really was that horrible

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four seven, There's no way you sho'd be at

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<v Speaker 2>the wedding. There is zero way you would have you

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<v Speaker 2>would ever speak to her again, and you do see

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<v Speaker 2>at the end tomorrow the sister walks out. She's had

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<v Speaker 2>enough because she didn't get her prescatarian meal, she said,

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<v Speaker 2>and she said, I'm the bride's sister. You were not

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<v Speaker 2>treating me like I'm important enough kind of thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>at the end she goes, I'm not giving you any more.

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<v Speaker 2>And you hear her say that as she walks off,

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like that is a nod to the

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<v Speaker 2>production aspect where they're like, just give us something else,

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<v Speaker 2>give us something else. But something I did want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that happened on There was a new couple,

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<v Speaker 2>Carina and Paul. Now this apparently has never happened in

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<v Speaker 2>Math's history. But they get to the wedding. They are

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the aisle. They're like frothying each

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<v Speaker 2>other to the audience. They're like, you're very handsome, you're

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<v Speaker 2>very beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks amazing and you're like, wow, these people look

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<v Speaker 2>really suited to each other. And he's really like she is.

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<v Speaker 1>Standing, Oh my god, I'm stoked.

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<v Speaker 2>Like then she walks off camera and she says to

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<v Speaker 2>a producer basically, find me someone else, get me a

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<v Speaker 2>new husband. I know him, and the producer looks really shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, what you know him?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh my god, I'm like, as if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that from a production aspect. But apparently, long story short,

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<v Speaker 2>they had dated before. Briefly, they'd matched online, They're dated

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<v Speaker 2>in Perth. They'd gone on a hike, had a really

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<v Speaker 2>amazing date. They kept texting each other, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>ghosted her. So he just literally never messaged her again.

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<v Speaker 2>The first contact that they have had from that original

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<v Speaker 2>date was on national television getting married.

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<v Speaker 3>So stupid, but also like they have to both be

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<v Speaker 3>in on it for them to have known that they've

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<v Speaker 3>been ghosted, do you know? I mean, like, how do

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<v Speaker 3>they Otherwise this is like the most serendipitous, incredible production

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<v Speaker 3>that's ever existed, or it's very very manufactured, and they've

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<v Speaker 3>found two people who have been on a date and

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<v Speaker 3>then ghosted each other. The thing is, though, is that

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<v Speaker 3>that would be a particularly hard thing to find because

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<v Speaker 3>how would you know unless someone's spoken publicly about going

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<v Speaker 3>on a date with this person and being ghosted, how

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<v Speaker 3>would you know that those two people have ever been

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<v Speaker 3>together previously. So I just think that this has to

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<v Speaker 3>be orchestrated as well for it to have actually been

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<v Speaker 3>in a discovery.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know because one thing that I did notice

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<v Speaker 4>about this season, and I don't know if it's just

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<v Speaker 4>the first ones that have gotten married, is that they

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<v Speaker 4>seem to be matching them more with location, which I

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<v Speaker 4>think is a really wise thing, because if you get

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<v Speaker 4>someone who's from Perth and someone who's from Sydney, one person,

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<v Speaker 4>if it works out, is going to have to move

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<v Speaker 4>to the other side of the country. Like Perth is

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<v Speaker 4>not that big of a city. I've got a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of friends from there, and I think that the dating

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<v Speaker 4>pool from what I've heard, it's pretty like you've kind

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<v Speaker 4>of been through everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you think it was totally serendipitous that they have

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<v Speaker 3>been matched together.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it could have been, but I was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of picturing what I would do in that situation if

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<v Speaker 4>I was walking down the island. This whole production had

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<v Speaker 4>happened because I was on Maths and I recognized him, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's surprising to me how long it took for them.

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<v Speaker 1>To be like, guys, what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 4>Like to the producers, I'm surprised they didn't say anything

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<v Speaker 4>in the actual ceremony.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if the ghosting was a bonus. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is what I think has happened, because I, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Laura and I have obviously done a lot of reality

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<v Speaker 2>TV and we've done a dating reality TV show. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the due diligence that they do on each person. What

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<v Speaker 2>I think has probably happened is they've found the contestants

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<v Speaker 2>that they think could be an option, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>go through their social medias. I just wonder if maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they were following each other on social media and the

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<v Speaker 2>production team of at least seeing that there's some form

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<v Speaker 2>of connection without knowing what, and then maybe when the

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<v Speaker 2>ghosting came out, they've been like bingo, Like we couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have asked for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because remember last year, wasn't there a couple that

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<v Speaker 4>they were like intruders or something like that, and they

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<v Speaker 4>went to the same gym or they knew each other's name.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember they one of them got down the aisle and

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<v Speaker 4>he was like, oh, hey, I can't remember whose name

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<v Speaker 4>it was. But they had that moment where they realized

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<v Speaker 4>that they actually knew each other from They hadn't dated though,

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<v Speaker 4>they just knew each other. I think it was through

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<v Speaker 4>like a gym connection or something. But the funniest thing

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<v Speaker 4>about that situation with Paul and with Carina is that

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<v Speaker 4>up until the point where she was like I know

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<v Speaker 4>this guy and we've been dating before, I realized that

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<v Speaker 4>I still have so much work to do. I think

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<v Speaker 4>I've learnt so much from like producing this podcast and

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<v Speaker 4>hearing so many of the experts talk about dating and relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>But up until that point, I was like, he's the catch.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the one where they've just got this amazing guy

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<v Speaker 4>to like have on the whole season that everyone falls

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<v Speaker 4>in love with. He's the guy, you know. He's talking

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<v Speaker 4>French to her. He's handsome, he's tall, he's like hard working,

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<v Speaker 4>like he's got all of it right.

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<v Speaker 3>She was like, he's absolutely my kind of guy. This

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<v Speaker 3>is in the car this morning, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, oh uh. I was like, oh, so he

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<v Speaker 1>must be a fuck boy there.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, funnily enough, yeah, it turns out he's actually been

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<v Speaker 4>on that show, The Love Boat.

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<v Speaker 1>He seems like the guy who just tells you exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to hear.

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<v Speaker 4>And I laughed to myself because I was like, I

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<v Speaker 4>still to this day would have full looked at that

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<v Speaker 4>like she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I am not as progressive as as I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the question, what do you reckon you would do?

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<v Speaker 1>Or have you ever gone back?

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<v Speaker 2>Because like someone you've been dating completely like fucking cut

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<v Speaker 2>you off, like hardcore ghosting. Then they've come back, so

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<v Speaker 2>they've zombie you, and then you're like, yeah, cool, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tap that again.

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<v Speaker 3>To be honest, I can't like nothing comes to mind

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<v Speaker 3>as like an immediate example.

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<v Speaker 1>However, I just know that yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely would have, like I think about like you

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<v Speaker 3>guys know, there's no secrets here. My dating in my

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<v Speaker 3>twenties was an absolute fucking shit show. The amount of

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<v Speaker 3>things that I tolerated or was just like yeah, second

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<v Speaker 3>time hurt me again, that sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>People can change. Yeah, people can change. He'll change for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the exception, Like I would have done that easily.

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<v Speaker 3>I also was. I was also the ghost who resurrected

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<v Speaker 3>myself many times because I was And now I think

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<v Speaker 3>about it, and I'm like, I only did that because

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<v Speaker 3>I was bored and lazy and not lazy, sorry, bored

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<v Speaker 3>and lonely. I was lonely and I wanted company, and

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<v Speaker 3>I went through my phone. I was like, fuck, guess,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess we got to go back to that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you guys remember I think I told you on

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast. But I had been on this dating app

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd matched with this guy and we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>and then I ghosted him. He kept wanting to meet

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<v Speaker 2>up and I was just like, fucking I could not

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<v Speaker 2>interested call me bonded, ghosted him.

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<v Speaker 1>Three years later. People changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Three years, I went on the app and the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>was still there and I was like, got nothing else

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<v Speaker 2>gone on? I was like, ready for that drink? He

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<v Speaker 2>was like yeah, okay, that was it three years. I

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<v Speaker 2>ghosted him for three years and he said yes without

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<v Speaker 2>skipping a beat. We went to the date and it

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<v Speaker 2>was the most boring night in my life. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, that's why I.

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<v Speaker 5>Go to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you fucking still absolutely? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. We didn't even kiss.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like within ten minutes, I was like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is why you go with your guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you like I can't wait to ghost you again?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like I got to go in three I

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<v Speaker 2>got to go to the toilet and.

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<v Speaker 1>Never came back.

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<v Speaker 3>I think though your message ready for that drink? Well played,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think most people would have been how have

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<v Speaker 3>you been, and it's like, there's too much that's happened

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<v Speaker 3>in three years, I can't catch you up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure what I wrote to him was the

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<v Speaker 2>answer to what he asked me three years ago. I

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<v Speaker 2>just continue, Yeah, it was a continued conversation three years later.

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<v Speaker 2>I just pretended that three years didn't go far. I

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<v Speaker 2>literally just was like house seven pm.

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<v Speaker 3>To be fair, though, good on him for not being

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<v Speaker 3>angry because the amount of people and maybe I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if this is still a case on Tinder and

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<v Speaker 3>online dating, but you'll be talking for a little while

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<v Speaker 3>and you'll go cold because you're just kind of not

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<v Speaker 3>into the chat, and like if you're not committed to

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<v Speaker 3>the person, you've not been on a date or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's okay to go cold on someone when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to chatting to them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just kind of part and pass of online dating.

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<v Speaker 3>Of men who take it as a personal insult and

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<v Speaker 3>then get angry at you because you haven't replied to

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<v Speaker 3>their messages. To me, I think that that is like

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<v Speaker 3>such a determining factor of someone's red flags, right, Like

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<v Speaker 3>if their response to you not replying is I thought

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<v Speaker 3>you were looking for someone, but clearly you don't have time.

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<v Speaker 3>No am I the only one who received those type

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<v Speaker 3>of messages.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm so desperate.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on the receiving end, Like there are seven

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<v Speaker 2>I'm outside in the bushes, come out.

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<v Speaker 3>Kisha never never didn't reply.

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<v Speaker 4>Kisha triple texted for these couple though they'd actually been

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<v Speaker 4>on a date. Also, I don't know if they'd hooked up.

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<v Speaker 4>It kind of gave a little bit of a I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, there's a bit more to this. I feel

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<v Speaker 4>as though you guys hooked up and then he ghosted you,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's why you're a bit like No, like I

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<v Speaker 4>was a bit shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, Yeah, I mean if you've been ghosted in the

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<v Speaker 3>past by someone, and I mean like true ghosting, like

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<v Speaker 3>really poor form. Three years, you've slept with a guy

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<v Speaker 3>and then they've just absolutely fucking blocked you.

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<v Speaker 1>What would that feel like? I have no idea, but I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think in this by the way that was suck as

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<v Speaker 4>it might absolutely know what that feels.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It calls into question the kind of ethics around the show,

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<v Speaker 3>which it does every year, but it's like, sometimes there

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<v Speaker 3>are people who are undeserving of another chance or undeserving

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<v Speaker 3>of you trying to work out whether or not you

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<v Speaker 3>would be a good match. And it's like, I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of feel sorry that this woman is now in a

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<v Speaker 3>position where, in order to be in the experiment, she

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<v Speaker 3>has to give a guy who's already treated her really badly,

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<v Speaker 3>already compromised her boundaries, a chance at being and showing

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<v Speaker 3>himself to be a good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a shit situation for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I did find this the next part that

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<v Speaker 2>happened or that evening, I found it really interesting. So

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<v Speaker 2>they were at the wedding ceremony and he said to her,

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<v Speaker 2>are you happy if I go and speak to your

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<v Speaker 2>family and tell them about what happened and our history

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, And she was like yeah, great.

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<v Speaker 2>And then so he goes up to her parents and says,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to be really honest and forward. And

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<v Speaker 2>he explained it, and he basically said, like, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>treat her right, I go to whatever, I didn't message her,

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<v Speaker 2>but then put it down to like I wasn't in

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<v Speaker 2>the right headspace.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but wait it worked. Then they do an.

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<v Speaker 2>Interview with the parents that are like the dad said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just so admirable. I think he's really admirable that

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<v Speaker 2>he told the truth, and he's obviously very respectable. And

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<v Speaker 2>then she was like, not many people would be able

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<v Speaker 2>to go and speak to my parents like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wow, he just must have manipulated the

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<v Speaker 2>entire situation.

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<v Speaker 3>He's also just someone who's absolutely very good at and

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<v Speaker 3>is literate in TV, like reality TV literate, so he

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<v Speaker 3>knows that this is a situation he can't get out of.

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<v Speaker 3>He knows he's going to be painted badly for being

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<v Speaker 3>the Ghoster, and the only way to repaint that picture

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<v Speaker 3>and to be seen as someone who is actually a

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<v Speaker 3>stand up guy is to face it that way, which

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<v Speaker 3>just means that he has either like a understanding of

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<v Speaker 3>reality TV or he has enough self awareness of how

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<v Speaker 3>he comes across, probably from lessons he's learned from his

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<v Speaker 3>last experience of reality TV as to how he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to navigate this, or he.

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<v Speaker 1>Might have changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. I also know I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>judge the too quick, because at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>day I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't watched it, and I am at the.

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<v Speaker 2>End of the day, there is something that's like cool.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have a choice but to own the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad you did own it. I just think

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<v Speaker 2>it's fascinating to watch, like from a fly on the wall,

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<v Speaker 2>that you can use that honesty as like a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a manipulation technique, and whether that wasn't intentional or not,

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<v Speaker 2>it very much worked. Like we just said, we've all

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<v Speaker 2>ghosted people. Everyone does it if you go on one

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<v Speaker 2>date or whatever and you're not interested. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to hold that against him, but I just feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>like what Keisha said, I think there was more there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was probably was a bit more of

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<v Speaker 2>a turd burger than he's letting on. So maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>did hook up or there was more of a connection

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<v Speaker 2>and then he just completely blanked us.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to give him the benefit of the doubt

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<v Speaker 2>for now, because it's very early days.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't need to it's maths sound exactly like I

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<v Speaker 3>did when I was a dated.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give them the benefit of the doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they've changed, maybe they've evolved.

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<v Speaker 4>The guys who were manipulators, though they have evolved guys.

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<v Speaker 4>We've spoken about this with some guys who use therapy

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<v Speaker 4>talk as a weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep your wits about you, keep your eyes open.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I'll watch it anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>It's see I feel jipped because, like I really want

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<v Speaker 3>to be watching it, and now I kind of feel

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<v Speaker 3>as though I have to support my husband.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a real damn shame. Oh what are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to do?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Support my husband? I think I have to.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the highlight.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone vote ten times, Matty Jay. Something that the three

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<v Speaker 3>of us have been talking about for the last couple

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<v Speaker 3>of weeks and it has been in the media again

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<v Speaker 3>this week. So we were going to talk about on

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<v Speaker 3>last week's podcasts, but unfortunately BRIT's infestation of Huntsman's brain

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<v Speaker 3>Supreme shock. However, there's been updates and we thought if

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<v Speaker 3>we're still talking about it two weeks later, it might

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<v Speaker 3>be something that you guys are interested in as well.

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<v Speaker 3>You may know the Today's show host. His name is

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<v Speaker 3>Alex Cullen. He was recently stood down from the show

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<v Speaker 3>for breaching the laws around cash for comment. However, him

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<v Speaker 3>being suspended from his job and taken off the show

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<v Speaker 3>has been quite controversial. You might be familiar with the

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<v Speaker 3>billionaire his name's Adrian Portelli. He's the billionaire block guy

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<v Speaker 3>who rocks up at all the block auctions and buys

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<v Speaker 3>much all the houses. Well, they call him Lambo Guy

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<v Speaker 3>because from like the first season he rocked up in

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<v Speaker 3>his like Fluoro bright Lamborghini, and that's been his nickname since.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's decided he doesn't like that nickname anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so he wants to rename himself basically, and the

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<v Speaker 3>Lambeau guy kind of monica that's followed him around.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's worse things you could be called, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But McLaren Man's not that much better.

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<v Speaker 1>What is a McLaren isn't a type of car?

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<v Speaker 2>Luxury car's a bit like.

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<v Speaker 4>Lambo's are hot and sporty. McLaren's are like the same

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<v Speaker 4>but kind of considered.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit more classy. This whole thing is so stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically, Lambou Guy no longer wanted to be called

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<v Speaker 3>Lambeau Guy. So Adrian Pottelli got onto his social media

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<v Speaker 3>and he said, I will give fifty thousand dollars to

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<v Speaker 3>any journalist or presenter who talks about me and uses

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<v Speaker 3>a different name first. And that different name that he

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to go by was McLaren man. Now, this was

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<v Speaker 3>all done as a bit of jest. However, the reason

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<v Speaker 3>why this has become so controversial because Alex Cullen was

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<v Speaker 3>the reporter who took him up on the bed. There

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<v Speaker 3>was a cross during the Australian Open that involves Sarah

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<v Speaker 3>Abdo and Carl Stefanovick have listened to this a little.

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<v Speaker 5>Bit of celebrity spotting today. Don't believe Vanessa's been here.

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<v Speaker 5>Danny Minogue as well. Adrian Portelli aka the McLaren guy,

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<v Speaker 5>likely to make an appearance here today as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But look for different luxury car.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, yeah, pretty sure it's McLaren.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, it's definitely McLaren That's why we can split

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<v Speaker 2>the fifty grand.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason this is escalated to the point that it

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<v Speaker 2>has is because Adrian Ptelly McLaren man, Jack and you'll

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<v Speaker 2>give it to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, lambo guy, McLaren Man, McLaren man, whatever you want,

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<v Speaker 3>we could split that actually.

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<v Speaker 2>So the reason yeah, it escalated is because I'm desperate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Adrian paid up.

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<v Speaker 2>Adrian was like, this was not a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you fifty k. Well done.

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<v Speaker 2>Transferred in fifty K took screenshot of it, posted it,

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<v Speaker 2>Alex shared it. It was all a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>pr funny jest. There was nothing that was secret about it.

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<v Speaker 2>No one was trying to hide it like they really

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<v Speaker 2>lent in. I saw it happening and thought funny. So

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<v Speaker 2>colloquially in our industry it's called cash for comment. You're

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<v Speaker 2>basically not allowed to be paid for any brand or

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<v Speaker 2>personal advertising without making it very clear that it is

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<v Speaker 2>a sponsored advertised post. That is what is in all media.

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<v Speaker 2>But it looks different in different capacities for TV or

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<v Speaker 2>for radio or for podcasting.

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<v Speaker 1>Like everyone has their set of rules. Yes, McClaren man,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks different for podcasting.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to be clear, McLaren man. Yeah, the rules do

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<v Speaker 2>not stand to you for.

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<v Speaker 3>These standards are also set by AKMA, which is the

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<v Speaker 3>governing body who puts rules and regulations in place to

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<v Speaker 3>ensure that you know, free to air TV and radio

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<v Speaker 3>and everybody else are abiding by an ethical code of

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<v Speaker 3>standards and not misleading the public to buy into products

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<v Speaker 3>or to buy into businesses that they otherwise wouldn't because

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<v Speaker 3>of refer from a friend type situations.

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<v Speaker 2>And you do actually see it a lot. Now, I

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 2>don't think maybe the everyday consumer would see it, but

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<v Speaker 2>when you're in media, I think you've got an eye

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<v Speaker 2>for it, and sometimes I think you see things that

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 2>are questionable lord that you would wonder, but they just

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 2>slip under the radar. This couldn't slip under the radar

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<v Speaker 2>because they lent him to make it a joke and

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<v Speaker 2>a pr stunt. Nine reprimanded Alex and stood him down.

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<v Speaker 2>Initially it was temporarily, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I even thought that was like, oh, that was a

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<v Speaker 1>big call.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that you need to punish him in some capacity,

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<v Speaker 2>and he made to look like you were doing something,

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<v Speaker 2>but I at the start was like, come on, guys,

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 2>it was very obviously a joke. Alex made a statement

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<v Speaker 2>saying I was always going to give it to charity.

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<v Speaker 2>Channel nine made Alex give the money back to Adrian Pottelly,

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<v Speaker 2>and Adrian Pottelly then split the money and donated it

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<v Speaker 2>to two of Alex's chosen charity. So to be clear, now,

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<v Speaker 2>Alex did not take a dollar and said he was

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<v Speaker 2>always going to donate it to charity, which a big

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<v Speaker 2>part of me believes because he's in media, he's been

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<v Speaker 2>there with the network for five years.

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<v Speaker 1>You do know the law.

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<v Speaker 2>He was so open and public about it. It's hard

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<v Speaker 2>for me to believe that he would have been that silly.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the intention was always to gain some form

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<v Speaker 2>of publicity for the show, for himself for the segment.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why Karl Stefanovic doubled down and also made his

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<v Speaker 2>jovial comments as well. Now he's been completely let go

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<v Speaker 2>from the network. He will not work there again because

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<v Speaker 2>of this cross and I personally feel like that has

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<v Speaker 2>gone far too far.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an interesting one because I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people feel as though there needs to be some sort

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<v Speaker 3>of he needs to be reprimanded in some way, because

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's tricky when you start to bend the

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<v Speaker 3>rules and say, well, this type of kash for comment

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<v Speaker 3>situations okay, but then this type of kash for comment

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<v Speaker 3>is in the gray. The issue is is that it's

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<v Speaker 3>something that does happen pretty often across media, and obviously

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<v Speaker 3>there are watchdogs and people are called out for it

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<v Speaker 3>all the time. But it seems like this is the

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<v Speaker 3>most severe reprimanding that we've seen, especially since he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>keep the fifty thousand dollars, didn't profit from this in

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<v Speaker 3>any way, and now he's lost his job. Alex came

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<v Speaker 3>out and said that this has been a very difficult

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<v Speaker 3>time and I just want to say thank you to

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 3>all the wonderful people who reached out. It means the

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 3>world to me and to my young family. I missed

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 3>my colleagues at the Today Show and wish them the best.

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Thank you again, and I look forward to whatever comes.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is a presenter who's worked in that role

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<v Speaker 3>for the last five years and worked alongside his co hosts.

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<v Speaker 3>I can only imagine that this has been a massive

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<v Speaker 3>blow to the show and to the teams in general.

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<v Speaker 3>But I guess I sit on two camps because on

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<v Speaker 3>one side, I think maybe the repercussions for this were

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<v Speaker 3>too severe and don't seem to be in line with

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 3>how Channel nine has handled cash for comment situations in

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<v Speaker 3>the past, which we'll get into in a moment. But

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<v Speaker 3>also on the flip side of that, I'm like, it

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 3>was so brazenly obvious that this went against the code

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 3>of conduct, and people as in the public, some people

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 3>did have such an adverse reaction to it that I

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 3>think that Channel nine's hands were sort of tied and

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 3>they had to take action, but maybe it was too severe.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no one that would have been upset by

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that a billionaire gave a charity fifty thousand

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 2>dollars if that was the.

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Way it was going to go.

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 2>And all we have is Alex's statement of saying, of course,

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 2>that's what I was going to do. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>why I find it hard to not believe him, because

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 2>it was so obviously a joke and a stunt. He

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<v Speaker 2>knows the rules, he shared the screenshots. There's no way

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 2>he would have thought he was allowed to keep that.

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 2>No one in media would have thought that that was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I have a question for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think we feel differently about it when it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of pose as an on air gag and one

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 3>person seems to be benefiting from that on air gag,

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 3>or is it more of an issue when it's a

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<v Speaker 3>business that's profiting and it's done in a more sinister

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<v Speaker 3>or manipulative way where someone's getting money back from a

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 3>business in order to speak about them positively.

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<v Speaker 2>My problem is when people are really subtly trying to

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<v Speaker 2>promote a business and then take the money. But for

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 2>this no one was genuinely being promoted a list of

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 2>people's names. No one would have bad an Nyilid, no

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>one would have thought twice about it. The money would

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>have ended up going to charity. Which is why I

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 2>have an issue with the fact that he's been stood down,

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 2>because we know that there have been people that have

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>done far worse and taken money and benefit profited from

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 2>supporting businesses on the sly that haven't had the same repercussions.

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 2>So I think for me, that's where my issue comes from.

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 3>I think it's important to establish why these laws were

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 3>brought in the first place, because they are rules that

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 3>have been put in place to protect the public. So

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 3>back in nineteen ninety nine, this was also the heyday

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 3>of radio where talkback radio had such a stranglehold across Australia.

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 3>There was an inquiry that was done from Alan Jones

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 3>and also John Laws who were receiving cash from businesses

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 3>and some of these businesses were quantas optors, Foxtel banking associations,

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 3>rams home loans. There were so many businesses that were

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 3>paying them in order for them to not speak negatively

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 3>about their company on air, and this might not seem

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 3>as significant now because I don't think talkback radio has

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 3>the same hold on Australian public as it did then.

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 3>But at the time these people were so incredibly influential

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 3>that they had the power to really sway people's opinions

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 3>around brands and around companies.

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, it was almost looked at as hush money as

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 2>opposed to cash for comment, because it was like, we're

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 2>going to pay you to not slag us and not

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 2>sling mud at us. But they were found to have

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 2>committed ninety breaches of industry codes of conduct, were estimated

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 2>about eighteen million dollars, Like this was a huge amount

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 2>of money.

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 4>I think the interesting thing about it as well, and

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 4>obviously we have a bit of more insight into the

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 4>radio world, but at the time those two men were

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 4>seen as such like brute forces in broadcasting. Really people

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:46.479
<v Speaker 4>trusted them. People had this like deep connection to the

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 4>fact that they were the holders of information and the

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 4>way that they got that information about what was going

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 4>on around them was from these two men in radio.

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 4>So there was also kind of this like betrayal aspect

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 4>to it, where they found out the public found out

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 4>you have been profiting off of deliberately misleading me.

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's why the Kasher comment rules came in.

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 4>And for anyone who hasn't worked in media before, we

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:11.719
<v Speaker 4>have to do codes of conduct. When you work at

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 4>a radio station, you have to do them every single year.

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 4>You have to do compliance training, and I think it's

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 4>the same for TV. From what I've heard from friends,

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 4>like it's a really big deal.

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>They want to make sure.

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 4>That you're not doing things that are misleading to the

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 4>public and you're financially benefiting from them because it reflects

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 4>that trust, you know, it reflects the fact that the

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 4>public can't trust what you're saying anymore.

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 3>The only thing is, though, that I think is questionable,

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 3>is that that to me, that is such an obvious

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 3>example of Kasha comment. When you're receiving cash from a

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 3>business to then promote that business in a positive light,

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 3>very very clear cut. I don't think anyone would argue

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 3>that that's misleading. We had those laws in place for influencers.

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Influencers can't work with brands without disclosing that they are

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 3>getting paid by the brand to speak positively. In this

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 3>instance of Alex Cullen talking about Lambeou Guy and calling

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 3>him McLaren man, I just don't see who benefits from this.

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't see.

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 3>I actually think it's such a great area because yes

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 3>he received cash, and yes it was a comment, but

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 3>that comment wasn't about a business. It doesn't sway public's perception.

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 3>It really was this like very jovial pr able, almost

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.959
<v Speaker 3>like silliness to it. I get that a journalist shouldn't

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 3>necessarily be paid fifty thousand dollars to say someone's name,

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 3>but it doesn't have the same ramifications or impact on

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 3>anybody as what these sort of examples do. And another

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 3>example which I think is really important, and the reason

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 3>why I want to bring this up is because it's comparative.

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 3>So this happened under Channel nine. Last year there was

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 3>an inquiry on Ben Fordham, who works on twogb which

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 3>is part of Channel nine. For anyone who doesn't know

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 3>how that structured, the inquiry found that he had broken

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 3>the laws around cash for comment and that he had

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 3>spoken about Uber, of which he is an affiliate for.

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 3>So what happened on the show was that Ben Fordham,

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 3>who has paid an incredible sum for his radio show.

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 3>It's estimated that he's paid around one point five million

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 3>a year, he was speaking about Uber saying that he

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 3>has a secondary job. He'd taken his very first Uber passenger,

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 3>and he spoke about how convenient Uber is and what

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 3>a great secondary employment it is and the flexibility of it.

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Why was he on a secondary employment on one point five?

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's that's exactly the question that was raised, right,

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 3>And the question is maybe he never was doing Uber

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 3>as a secondary job, not because he needed to by

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 3>any means, but actually because he was being paid to

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 3>speak positively about the company. But none of this was disclosed.

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 3>So the reason why I think we wanted to unpack

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:37.239
<v Speaker 3>this and kind of be like, well, why is this

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 3>not apples for apples is that the reprimanding for that

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 3>situation of Ben Fordham was simply that he was expected

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 3>to do more training and the team around him, the

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 3>production team, had to do more compliance training. So they

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 3>would have had like a half day of compliance training.

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 3>And it never really made media. It never really became

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 3>a big song and dance. But in this instance with

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Alex Cullen, it has becomes such a huge thing, and

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:03.719
<v Speaker 3>I think it's to do with the media spotlight that

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 3>was put on it. This couldn't just be swept under

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 3>the carpet because of the publicity that it gained. And

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 3>I think it's kind of unfair when you have two

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 3>different media personalities who have done similar things. One arguably

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 3>is far worse and he has received absolutely no punishment

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 3>for it, and the other person has lost his job.

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's fair at all, and I try

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 2>to put myself in that position when I'm talking about

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 2>these subjects, So I think it's important to be like,

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 2>what would I actually have done.

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like I would have gone for the fifty thousand

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:34.839
<v Speaker 1>dollar cash. I would have I name this episode McLaren man.

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.479
<v Speaker 3>We will this episode is called McLaren man and owned

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:40.479
<v Speaker 3>to McLaren man.

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I do wonder if it's a bit of a bendy

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 2>area that Alex would have said, do you know what,

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 2>I think I'll be fine, Like, surely there will be

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.320
<v Speaker 2>no repercussions of this. If we can get fifty thousand

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 2>dollars from a billionaire that doesn't need it and give

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 2>it to a charity that needs it.

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Tell me a.

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Person that wouldn't say yes, it was so open and obvious.

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that he would have thought that this

0:34:58.640 --> 0:34:59.280
<v Speaker 2>would have happened.

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think only the thing that has been raised though,

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 3>is that maybe the charity aspect came as a response

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 3>to the punishment. So I mean, for anyone who's not

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 3>familiar with the timeline, Alex himself hadn't come out prior

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 3>to the investigation is saying that it publicly that it

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 3>was going to go to charity. So people are kind

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 3>of calling a little bit bullshit and being like, Oh,

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 3>you're only saying that now because you're in trouble for it.

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 4>I also don't know how he would have got the

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.800
<v Speaker 4>bank transfer to begin with without giving his bank details

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 4>to exact clarencemen, so you know what I mean, Like,

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 4>you can't just transfer fifty thousand dollars.

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you can pay ID that.

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 3>And I think that that's the issue, is like, if

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 3>you did have every intention to give it to a charity,

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 3>why wouldn't you have just said, Hey, I don't need

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:41.759
<v Speaker 3>that fifty thousand dollars. Can you donate it to this

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 3>charity and send me the transfer so that I can

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 3>see that you've transferred it to a charity. Why does

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 3>it need to go into your bank account to then

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 3>go into a charity bank account? So yeah, I understand

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 3>that it probably raised some alarm bells for a few people,

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 3>and I don't want to necessarily like question his intent

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 3>with it, because there could be a very good chance

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 3>that he did in tend to donate it to a charity.

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 3>But at the end of the day, he doesn't have

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.360
<v Speaker 3>the money, and there's been twenty five thousand dollars donated

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:09.280
<v Speaker 3>to Salvation Army, and there's been twenty five thousand dollars

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 3>donated to RSPCA. My big thing from this is that

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 3>I think it is disappointing that a journalist has completely

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 3>lost his job when other people have received a slap

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 3>on the wrist for it. And I think that that

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 3>is kind of the part where where I go, these

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 3>rules need to be in place, but it's how we

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 3>enforce them, and shouldn't there be a standardized way that

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 3>we approach these situations.

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 2>The only other thing that makes sense to me is

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 2>that when he's sat down to do the training online,

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:35.439
<v Speaker 2>you know when you just click done, but you don't

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 2>read it. He just didn't read the codes OFCONDA like

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're like, y, I've done it. I've done

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 2>it fast forward. Because no one else would make such

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 2>a blatantly obvious decision if you had read the rules.

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 4>He would have had to have been aware of them

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:48.919
<v Speaker 4>because he's been a journalist for so long. The thing

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.280
<v Speaker 4>that I find really interesting is that I think regardless

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 4>of whether he would have donated it to charity to

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 4>begin with or not, I think the same rules still apply.

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:59.280
<v Speaker 4>And I very much I can't believe I'm actually completely

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 4>defending Channel Mine here. I really do think it is

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 4>important that these rules are in place and are enforced.

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.320
<v Speaker 1>And even though this situation seems as though.

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 4>It's very victimless, I think that if you, like you

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 4>said before, Laura, if you start to bend the rules

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 4>for certain situations, well then you've got to bend them

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 4>for all of them. And the reason that I think

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 4>they had to crack down on this was because it was.

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 2>So obvious they bent them for everyone else.

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and that's my issue, I understand, and I absolutely

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 3>agree with you. I do think that those rules need

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 3>to be in place, and I think, if anything, they

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 3>need to be enforced in a way that's far more consistent.

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 3>And I just don't think that it's fair when Akma says, okay, well,

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 3>on one side, we're going to do an inquiry, and

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.879
<v Speaker 3>on the other side, someone's going to lose their job,

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:42.959
<v Speaker 3>and the determining factor for that.

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Is purely publicity.

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 3>Public scrutiny shouldn't be the determining factor as to how

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.839
<v Speaker 3>bad someone's punishment is, because if that was the case,

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 3>it's like, well, on one hand, ben Fordham just got

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 3>away with it because no one really cared about the

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 3>whole uber situation. Yeah, that's kind of why I sit

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 3>in the in the gray with this one. I don't

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 3>think the Channel nine are the perpetrator in this situation.

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:04.880
<v Speaker 3>I know that they had to do something, but I

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 3>don't think that you can have a varied response in

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 3>these situations.

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:10.879
<v Speaker 4>Do you think the other networks do you think all

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 4>of the radio presenters, do you think all of the

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 4>radio networks are going to be more transparent or do

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 4>you think they're going to be more careful about making

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 4>it more subtle so that people don't pick up on

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:21.240
<v Speaker 4>the fact that this is happening.

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 3>I think Look, I mean, we've come a long way

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 3>in terms of people having decent media literacy and being

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 3>able to sniff at ads as opposed to say, like

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 3>ten years ago. I think the general public didn't have

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:35.839
<v Speaker 3>a good grasp, say ten years ago, especially, and I'm

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 3>talking about in general, talk about social media as well,

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 3>when someone was being paid to influence a product or

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 3>to influence a business. But I would say that this happens,

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 3>and I know you mentioned earlier, it happens so frequently,

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 3>especially on like morning shows, on some radio shows, where

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 3>people will subtly talk about a product or subtly talk

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 3>about a business that they love, but also they are

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 3>in some ways getting a kickback from them, whether obvious

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 3>or not. And I just think that maybe partly, yes,

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 3>I do think that networks will be a little bit

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 3>more subtle about it for a period, But I also

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 3>think these things are flash in the pants. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that as soon as the media cycle of this has

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<v Speaker 3>died down, they will go back to doing the same things.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just think that they've made a scapegoat out

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<v Speaker 3>of Alex Cullen.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Adrian Potelli did come out and say, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if Alex Losees's job, I'll hire him. I'll give you

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<v Speaker 2>a job. I've got jobs going anyway. The jobs came out,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like videographer jobs, it's like social media, like recording jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what do I think that's Alex cullins

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<v Speaker 2>Ally you.

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<v Speaker 1>Never know a hypod up scale.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, it is time for accidentally unfiltered it your

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<v Speaker 3>most embarrassing stories and if you had them on for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Please send it on through.

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<v Speaker 3>Two years ago, I went on a Kentiki trip to

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<v Speaker 3>the UK solo and I had the time of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Queen.

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<v Speaker 3>Since I was traveling solo, I had organized with my

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 3>travel agent that I wanted transfers from my hotel to

0:39:57.000 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 3>the airport. Anyway, I had a male friend from Kantiki

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 3>who I teed up to have a shower at his

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 3>hotel before my international flight. That evening, we went to

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 3>dinner and I had the best Rahman of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>This information is not imperative to the story, but you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Though we love a rama, it adds color.

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<v Speaker 3>I went back to his house with him, had a shower,

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<v Speaker 3>and shoved all my dirty clothes from the day of

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<v Speaker 3>sight seeing into my backpack. Anyways, I then ran back

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 3>to my hotel that I checked out of and hopped

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<v Speaker 3>into my private transfer to get to the airport. I

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<v Speaker 3>decided to rearrange my backpack whilst I was in the

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 3>car and pulled out all my dirty clothes and refolded

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 3>them and put them into the bag. The driver offered

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 3>to turn the light on for me, as it was

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.720
<v Speaker 3>completely dark, but I was like, no, no, no, it's okay. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>we arrived, I got my luggage, my backpack, and I

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<v Speaker 3>headed into the airport and as soon as I'd walked

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<v Speaker 3>through the security, I got a WhatsApp message from my driver.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just a picture of my worn g string

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<v Speaker 3>from the day, dirty side up, sitting in the backseat

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:57.399
<v Speaker 3>of his car. It gets worse. He called and then

0:40:57.440 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 3>said that he was out the front and when I

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<v Speaker 3>went back out he had it hanging from his finger

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<v Speaker 3>out the window.

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<v Speaker 1>Mortified. If you don't laugh, your cry, why why is

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<v Speaker 1>he touching it? Just throw it in the bin? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>hang on.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a similar story last year when I was

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<v Speaker 2>in the Maldives on holiday with Ben. We were on

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<v Speaker 2>a little island because everything in the Maldives isn't an island,

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 2>and it was time to go. So to leave the hotel,

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<v Speaker 2>you pack up and you get a speedboat or some

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of a boat back to the main island. To

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 2>fly out, and so we got on the boat did

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 2>the trip, and it wasn't a speedy boat. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a mediocre medium speedboat.

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<v Speaker 1>Just Ben and I.

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<v Speaker 2>We medium sped back from our island to the mainland.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I got off the boat, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>member of the hotel staff waiting for us to greet us,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, how did you get here? And

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<v Speaker 2>in his hand he had a gift bag and in

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.319
<v Speaker 2>the gift like the gift bag was beautiful blue, had

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 2>the hotel's name on it, and I said, oh my god, Ben,

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 2>they've brought us a gift to say like thanks for

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 2>coming and staying at the resort, and so it gives

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 2>for the gift and I was like, thank you so much. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I was so excited and I opened the bag and

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:07.280
<v Speaker 2>there is nothing in the bag except a dirty, old

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:11.399
<v Speaker 2>rank g string. So I had obviously left one pair

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 2>of undies.

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<v Speaker 1>They've seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as we've checked out, they have packaged my

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 2>dirty undies up speed boted it to the island to

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 2>get there before me and handed me back my dirty undies.

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<v Speaker 1>I was mortified. That is amazing service. That's impeccable service.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of dirty undies.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember when I went to the beach and

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.759
<v Speaker 3>I picked up underwear that I thought was mine that

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 3>I dropped and I got home only to find that

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 3>I'd picked up someone else's dirty undies from the beach

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 3>and brought them home.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we also right? I don't know. We've got

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 1>some issues. Anyway, let's do suck and sweet. My suck

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<v Speaker 1>for the week, I'm gonna keep it snappy.

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<v Speaker 3>My suck for the week is that this last couple

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:50.720
<v Speaker 3>of days, the three days, I think, is the first

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 3>three days that I've really felt the pinch of parenting solo,

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 3>and also not just parenting solo, but like not having

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 3>someone to share the weekend with it makes everything a

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 3>little bit harder.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel that, yes, yeah, I don't share any

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:05.839
<v Speaker 2>of my life with anyone I.

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Know, but doing it like with kids in tow, Yeah,

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 3>it just kind of felt a bit relentless. And there

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 3>were quite a few battles this weekend, yeah, which I

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 3>don't normally have to do solo. Usually when you're having

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 3>a battle with the kids, Matt will step in and

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 3>he will take over for a bit and then, like

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, you can tap out because you're overstimulated, you're tired,

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 3>You're also feeling frustrated, and there is no one to

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 3>tap out too, So that has been a little bit challenging.

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 3>We're two weeks in to him being away and the

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 3>girls are also not coping with it very well.

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>They miss him so even Lola so much.

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 2>They miss him so much, which is probably what he needed.

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<v Speaker 1>They really do.

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<v Speaker 3>And my sweet for the week was that yesterday morning

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 3>I took the girls. I mean, we went to another

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 3>water park. Would you believe it or not, But we

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 3>went to this place called wild Play. It's Incentennial. If

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 3>you're a mom and you've got kids, like fucking highly recommend,

0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:58.240
<v Speaker 3>not getting paid to recommend that, just f why notash

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 3>for comments, no cash for comments on the water No

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Centennial Park is not giving me kickbacks. But we just

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 3>had a really really good morning together and like amongst

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:08.800
<v Speaker 3>the chaos of me saying that I felt like parenting

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 3>was relentless, that was one particular part of our long

0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:15.360
<v Speaker 3>weekend that I was like, my kids are cool, and

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 3>they're at an age now where I'm like, you guys

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 3>are cool, Like I like you as people, not just

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.280
<v Speaker 3>as kids, you know, not just because you're my kids.

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:23.799
<v Speaker 3>I like you because you've got a backbone, Lola.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well my sack.

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<v Speaker 2>This week was the last couple of days. I've had

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<v Speaker 2>really bad vertigo, which makes me sound like I'm one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred years old.

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>You might remember I had it last year. I spoke

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:32.880
<v Speaker 1>about it.

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I had it one night last year. But I've had

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 2>it for two days now. So it's like I get

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 2>it in my sleep. So when I roll over in bed,

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 2>it's so weird. It's so weird. When I roll over

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 2>in bed, I'm so dizzy that it wakes me up,

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 2>like you're nauseous. You can't like you stand up and

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.720
<v Speaker 2>you get dizzy. And so I had it both nights

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 2>for two nights, and then this morning I thought were refine.

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 2>And then I got to work and I was getting

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<v Speaker 2>a coffee and I was with another quirk Collie and

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 2>just like fell down on the lounge like out of nowhere.

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Everything is fine, and then I get this hectic moment

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:07.799
<v Speaker 2>of vertigo and I need to sit down, and then

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 2>it passes again.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you do a pregnancy test.

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I've done three pregnancy tests now today. Yes, yes, I'm

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 2>not pregnant. Okay, I don't know how to double down

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.320
<v Speaker 2>on this. There's been a period and three pregnancy tests.

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 2>I am not pregnant because I have had so many

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 2>people message me saying you're pregnant.

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's only because yesterday when we talked, you had

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 3>said you hadn't done one since Dubai, and then like

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.400
<v Speaker 3>tracking back on your cycle, you still hadn't gotten your period,

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, maybe just do one, just do

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:33.839
<v Speaker 3>it to be sure.

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 2>No, I forgot that I had had my period on

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I thought that's a different conversation.

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Then from yesterday things have changed. How today I have.

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent not pregnant. It's just a really random

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 2>that sucks. So I hope it passes because it's like, yeah,

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.239
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty hectic, and my sweet this week I'm going

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:50.239
<v Speaker 2>against the rules. We're not allowed to say the same

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 2>thing twice.

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:51.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't care.

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:54.839
<v Speaker 2>My sweet has been moving to Italy and getting like

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 2>not just that it's Italy, but getting the job of

0:45:57.320 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 2>a lifetime. I'm just so proud of him. I'm the

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 2>proud of fiance. I could cry out thinking about it.

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 2>He sent me like photos of humanis manage it taking

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>the like usually family mem I'm really sad usually like

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 2>partners and family are there and it's a really big

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 2>nice moment that you sign and you're there together and

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:15.840
<v Speaker 2>they always get photos and I'll just never get to

0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 2>do that with Ben, and so he just sent me

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 2>photos of him alone and just with his agent and

0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 2>like I should have been there, And it was really

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:23.360
<v Speaker 2>upsetting because I was like, I should be there with you,

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 2>not just like saying well done from the other side

0:46:25.480 --> 0:46:25.759
<v Speaker 2>of the world.

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 1>So that was really that was also another suck. But

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm really proud of him.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's my sweet and.

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<v Speaker 1>My sweetest is that we all get to go to Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now roll around in some garlic.

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<v Speaker 3>That is it from us, guys. We hope you love

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<v Speaker 1>Highs and Lows now BRIT's cry you don't stop come

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<v Speaker 3>And also you can watch any of this on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 3>So you watch any of this.

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<v Speaker 1>On YouTube, we don't actually put it.

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<v Speaker 3>On Facebook, and we'll put the links to everything in

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<v Speaker 3>the show notes, you know, the mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Day dad to dot two friends and share the life

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<v Speaker 2>because we love the man. The b b B b

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