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Speaker 1: Jam Mission with Jonesy and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Every weeknight at six o'clock you get a dose of

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Speaker 2: us with jam Nation, and then we hand the baton

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Speaker 2: over to our stablemate, Christian O'Connell at seven o'clock. He's

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Speaker 2: got a brand new book out about moving all the

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Speaker 2: way to the other side of the country. In fact,

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Speaker 2: let me just tell you what the certain Amanda Keller

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Speaker 2: has said on the front of this book.

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Speaker 3: What was she not?

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Speaker 2: She has said, well, she's read it and she was

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Speaker 2: very impressed. She has said, brilliantly, funny, unexpectedly moving, a

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Speaker 2: hilarious tale of leaping into the unknown and starting again

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Speaker 2: on the other side of the world. It is seriously wonderful.

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Speaker 2: And Christian, it is seriously wonderful. And hello, how are

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Speaker 2: you hey?

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Speaker 3: It's always joy chatting to you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, happy to be your stable mate

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Speaker 1: at seven o'clock in the evening.

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Speaker 3: You guys are my fluffer. You do it very well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for fluffing them up before I

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Speaker 1: come on with the money shot at seven right.

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Speaker 3: There, it is.

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Speaker 2: People would expect your book to be funny, because you're

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Speaker 2: it is. It is laugh out loud funny. But there's

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Speaker 2: this chapter in here about what you've never spoken about before,

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Speaker 2: and that is the true reason you felt you needed

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Speaker 2: to leave England and come to Australia and reinvent yourself.

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Speaker 3: Well it wasn't It was not the only reason. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean about seven years ago I had really bad

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Speaker 1: anxiety attacks. And that can happen to anybody, you know,

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Speaker 1: just the way that they happened to me. The strange

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Speaker 1: thing was about mine was I've been doing breakfast radio,

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Speaker 1: live TV radio and stand up for you know, over

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Speaker 1: twenty years. Then suddenly I was having these terrible anxiety

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Speaker 1: attacks and if anyone's had them before, they're called at

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Speaker 1: tax a reason.

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Speaker 3: You literally think you're gonna have a heart attack and die.

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Speaker 1: But it was literally like fifteen to twenty minutes before

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Speaker 1: you going live. My old show in the UK went

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Speaker 1: all around the UK and had three million people listening,

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Speaker 1: and I'd have to I just have to leave the

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Speaker 1: station moments before the show. And this kept happening, and

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Speaker 1: my wife said, you need to go and get help.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes for guys and women as well, no one

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Speaker 1: has it easy in life. Even just accepting that you

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Speaker 1: need to go and get help.

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Speaker 3: It's hard.

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Speaker 1: It was the ego, you know, I felt like, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a screw up. They are a piece of

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Speaker 1: screw ups. And I needed out and I got it.

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Speaker 4: And the title of the book, no one listens to

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Speaker 4: your Dad's that's clearly from one of you, your kid's friends,

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Speaker 4: or someone at school had said that.

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Speaker 1: Not a friend, Jonesy, No friend, who wants friends like

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Speaker 1: that when you're a teenager. No, it was someone just

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Speaker 1: went up to my someone went up to my daughter

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Speaker 1: in the first couple of months, when technically they were right,

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Speaker 1: there were not a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of fans of the show and me and just one

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Speaker 3: just went up to.

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Speaker 1: You know what girls are like at that age, went,

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Speaker 1: no one listens to your Dad's radio show. And my

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Speaker 1: daughter thought it was hilarious. But I remember at the

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Speaker 1: time my ego didn't think it was so funny. But

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Speaker 1: I remember making a note of going, if I have

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Speaker 1: if I ever get through this, if I ever survived this,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell my story and it will be I'll own that.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's called no one listens to your Dad's show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being bullied by a schoolgirl. Basically that's how

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Speaker 1: bad my life gone.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's not so bad, because my kids say that

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Speaker 4: to me to my face, and they're my own kids.

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Speaker 4: So my son even says radio is dead, So why

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Speaker 4: are you wasting your time with radio?

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Speaker 3: Hand's dead?

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Speaker 4: And I had to get out of the I had

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Speaker 4: to get out of the pie charts about Spotify, how

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Speaker 4: Spotify compares to radio, and I must say radio is

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Speaker 4: killing Spotify. But he still didn't believe, and he said,

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Speaker 4: and what are you're wasting your time with TV?

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Speaker 3: That's dead too.

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Speaker 4: I said, okay, mate, well how about you go and

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Speaker 4: get a job.

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Speaker 1: It's all crumbling around us, isn't it. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: all crumbling. We're cloring on to the last bits of

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Speaker 1: FM radio.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 4: But you're past the anxiety now? Is that something that

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Speaker 4: always that always stays with you.

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Speaker 1: Well, luckily it's never been as bad as that. I

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Speaker 1: can still I can still go to work and earn

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Speaker 1: a living doing radio. You know. I learned some new

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Speaker 1: stuff and there are lots of things you can do

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Speaker 1: if anyone's ever been there or knows anxiety. And right

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Speaker 1: now in the world globally, while we're worrying about being

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Speaker 1: forcibly separated, and you know, we've got a global pandemic,

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Speaker 1: anxiety levels that are an all time high. Years ago,

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Speaker 1: if you someone talked about anxiety, but I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: what they talk about now. The world's a very different

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Speaker 1: place and you've got teenagers dealing with record levels and anxiety.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's not an unusual thing.

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Speaker 1: But what's what's nice to me to do about it

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Speaker 1: is I had so much shame around it as a guy.

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Speaker 3: I never even told any friends, my mom and dad and.

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Speaker 1: Toool last week because there was there was a book

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Speaker 1: coming out where I am talking about it and think

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Speaker 1: about it. Is as I talk about it, there are

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Speaker 1: so many people emailing me, actually going thank you. No

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Speaker 1: one talks about it. That's the worst thing about it

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Speaker 1: is keeping it hidden, keeping it repressed, thinking there's something

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Speaker 1: wrong with you and that you won't be right again.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm proof that. Look, I did grow through it.

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Speaker 1: It was so bad at one point, but I still

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Speaker 1: got to the other side of the world and we

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Speaker 1: built a new life over here. So it's it's all

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Speaker 1: of it, and that's what life is of It should

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Speaker 1: always be a growth story. You're gonna have bits when

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Speaker 1: it's really hard and other bits where it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: all you're in clover, it's all gravy exactly.

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Speaker 3: And look at that.

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Speaker 4: And then you get Amanda Keller riding on the front

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Speaker 4: of your book.

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Speaker 2: Gravy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. I had her at Gravy. That's the

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Speaker 1: title of the next book.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us a pleasure. Take care, guys,

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Jonesy and Amanda Jonesy and Amanda's