WEBVTT - Stale Cookies and 'Cheating' Influencers 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:06.440 Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:10.000 hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:13.399 Sophie Torba and coming up on today's show, a young 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.000 woman is claiming the husband of a well known Aussie 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:20.880 influencer has impregnated her. Anna macavoy calls Matt Sakowski out 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:24.000 for not inviting her to his joint Bucks party and 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:28.120 the cookie pop up labeled a scam. But first, twin 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:32.160 sisters and influencers, Bridget and Dannielle for Long have shocked 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.080 the Internet after revealing they share their underwear and only 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.280 have one brush between them. 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:38.840 Yeah. 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.160 So, the twenty seven year old influencers share over seven 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.760 hundred and twenty five thousand followers on Instagram, and they 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:48.760 were interviewed on the Gows on the Go podcast when 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.879 they made the shot confession. Let's have a listen to 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.080 what they said. 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:56.480 We only have one bra. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:03.680 We okay, stop, and we share underwear. So we share 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.120 underwear like a share drawer. 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:08.240 Yeah, and we only have one brad because it bras. 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:10.440 But whenever we need a bra, we're like, wait, we're 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.039 fighting over it, and well right. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:13.560 Now I'm worried. 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:21.520 But ones need ones black, and and I just like 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:23.800 know what that is so niche, like the shares are 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:25.080 going to be like you guys are just. 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:31.000 As a triplet. I kind of get the sharing of underpants. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.080 Maybe it's told me not to say this, but I 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.160 kind of get it, because if you live together and 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.640 you're doing the washing, sometimes you might get confused about 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.959 which pairs yours. But what has stumped me is the 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.319 fact that they share bras, Like that is a sure 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.360 fire way to have a huge argument, because what if 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:50.160 one day you're wearing a white top, or you're both 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.480 wearing white tops and you want the white bra, Like 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.320 that's just pandemonium. Well, I actually think it's more revolting 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.960 to share underpants than it is a bra. They get washed, 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:02.640 just like this stuff going on. Like I think when 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:06.360 we were kids, we probably incidentally shared underpants because whose 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.000 parent is really separating their undies? But when we moved 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.040 in together, it was clear, these are my undies, these 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.799 are your unders. Some of them could have been mixed up, 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.560 but I'm off, I'm pretty chilled with this sort of 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.280 stuff like that discuss me. Like, to be honest, I've 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.200 got a couple of pairs of cats underpants at my 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.400 house that somehow got intertwined when we moved, and I 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.720 just wear them like, oh, I don't care. This is disgusting, 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.600 and I just can sense some kind of daily mail article. 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:31.760 Hopefully who cares they get what? 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.760 It's funny because you just mentioned about the white and 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.560 the black bra. Because after the girls made the confession 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.160 on this podcast, one of the hosts said, well, who's 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.200 wearing the bra today? And they said, well, actually we 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.320 both have a bra on, so we have one black 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.400 bra and one white bra. But things do get heated 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.200 if they need that one colored bra. Yeah, well I can. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.120 That's just stupid, like just go and buy a bra each. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.400 Obviously well off as well. They've got seven hundred and 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.920 twenty five thousand followers. Maybe this was a ploy to 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.920 get some launderie brands to send them some on the surprise, 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.120 I mean, as if they haven't had any already sending 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.040 them stuff. I also think it's because it's a new 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.120 cool girl young thing not to wear bras anymore. Like 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.640 I've heard on the grapevine that small perky tits is 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.160 apparently in fashion. I mean, I don't know when it 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.679 went out of fashion, having perky tits, but it happily 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.600 everyone wants small tits. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:20.720 So we are in fashion amy. 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.560 Yes, well I did notice this because a lot of 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.600 the mannequins in the stores don't have bras on as well. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.799 How old does that make me sound? But a lot 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.720 of people have had a lot of opinions on this online. 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.280 So there were twins who were weighing into the comment 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:38.040 section of the now viral podcast clip. One twin said, 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.840 my twin and I don't even hug, let alone share underwear. 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.640 No straight to jail, and otherwise said my twin and 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:49.320 I would first fight every day if we did this. Now, 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.800 there were some other sisters defending the girl's decision, and 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.840 they said, well, they have the same DNA. Well, another 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:59.200 twin said, she and her sister also do this. I 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:01.360 don't think it's weird. I actually do not think it's 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:01.760 weird at all. 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:02.880 I mean, a twenty. 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:04.240 Seven to share underpay. 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.720 I don't think it's weird because they probably live together. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:07.080 It's probably very difficult, they're. 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:07.760 The same size. 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.720 It's an I mean, it's quite a smart decision because 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.680 you only have to do one load of washing, Like 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.440 I share a towel with my partner. That's gross. I'm sorry, 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.640 you're a grub and I'm concerned now that do you 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.280 have my underwear in your house? 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.040 No, you've got I wouldn't fucking take your underwear. 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:29.039 Well, okay, old bond shit. So if I've said to you, Sophie, oh, 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:30.719 I don't know, like say you had to get changed, 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.479 I was like, here's a pair of my underpants. You 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.239 can wear them. Would you wear them? 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:35.680 Depends what type they were. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.560 I would not if you said, I'd have the fucking 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:40.279 difference between socks. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.480 There's something intimate about sharing someone's underpants. 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:44.320 I think it's weird. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:44.600 Now. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.520 What I love about these girls is they have been 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.400 having fun with this. So they recently shared a TikTok 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.480 joking that they were finally moving away from each other 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.760 after living together their whole lives, and in the video, 0:04:55.920 --> 0:05:00.040 the girls are seen fighting over the nude bra. I 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.320 wonder if they were caught off guard about this, because 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.480 you know, there's some like multiple like twin triplet things 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.240 that you think are normal and then suddenly when you 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.240 repeat it to another person, you're like, oh, fuck, this 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.640 is actually quite weird. No, I think they were aware 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.640 that they were going to shit over this. We're going 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.520 to put something up on our Instagram and in our 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:20.840 Facebook community. Any twins, triplets, sisters reach out? 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.000 Do you share the same underpants? And is it weird? 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.320 Chris paying seventeen dollars fifty for a stale fucking cookie? 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:27.640 Not me. 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.880 Australian fans of US cookie giant Crumble thought they were 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.720 in for a sweet treat when news broke on social 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.719 media that a pop up shop selling the popular cookies 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:40.239 was coming to North Bondai. 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.280 However, fans have labeled. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.359 The pop up store as a scam and accuse the 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.800 organizers of selling stale cookies. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:48.800 Amy, I need to know more about this. 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.720 Yeah, well, a lot of people on TikTok are currently 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:55.479 saying that this is their Roman Empire. So hundreds of 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:58.360 people lined up to get their hands on the popular 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:02.360 cookies after seeing promotions all over Instagram and Facebook from 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:06.000 an account called Crumble Sydney. Now, for those who haven't 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.479 heard of Crumble, it is a US owned store which 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.599 started in twenty seventeen and it has spread across the 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.640 US and Canada. There are currently no Crumble stores in Australia, 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.560 so this is why a lot of people got excited 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.560 when they heard about the pop up store, and what 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.839 has sparked a lot of anger. Firstly is the price 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.919 of the cookies. So a Crumble cookie in the US 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.120 will set you back around five US dollars, which is 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:34.279 the equivalent of seven Australian dollars. However, when people arrived 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.520 at this pop up store, they were being charged seventeen 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:41.640 dollars fifty per cookie. Like, firstly, who has seventeen dollars 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.080 fifty in this cost of living crists to spend on 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.720 a cookie? That is extortion. I'm sorry, that is absolutely 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.479 taking the piss and taking advantage of people. Well, you 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.880 could get a box of five cookies for forty five dollars, 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.200 still fucking crazy. And they were also selling Crumble cookie 0:06:56.200 --> 0:07:00.000 cutters for a whopping seventy five dollars each one cookie. 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.040 Yeah, oh fuck Wait what's the shape of the cookie cutter? 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:07.000 What a circle? Yeah? Nothing that remarkable. And a lot 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:10.080 of the people in this line were actually TikTokers because 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.040 people were wanting to do a lot of the taste 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.960 test videos. So I saw one woman on TikTok who 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:19.680 had bought ten cookies costing one hundred and seventy five dollars. Now, 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.120 the shit really hit the fan after the pop up 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:26.040 when dozens of disappointed customers hit out at the organizers 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.120 on social media and they started to complain that the 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:33.119 cookies tasted stale, and it became evident that the event 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:37.120 was not a real Crumble pop up, and unhappy customers 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:41.360 started labeling the organizers as deceptive and dishonest. Now can 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:44.960 you believe that it has actually come out that the 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:49.600 event was organized by some randoms who basically just flew 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:53.400 to the US, bought a thousand Crumble cookies over there, 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.760 and flew them back like that is a reality. 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.080 Wait now, then how did they fly them all back? Though? 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.840 Like what they brought? So many suits? They cases or 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.240 sent them. I mean, no, one of these things was stale. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.880 They'll probably tasted like rocks, I know. So everything basically 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:11.800 began unraveling online, and that's when the organizers shut down 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.080 their Instagram page and they started removing all of their 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.840 posts on TikTok and they tried to distance themselves from 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:23.160 this firestorm. So the backlash prompted the organizers to finally 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.200 release a statement which is linked on their TikTok account, 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.280 and it's funny because they've since changed their bio so 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:33.880 it now reads not endorsed by Crumble, just fans importing now. 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.400 The release they put out was incredibly detailed, and I 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.320 think this is because this is becoming a huge story. 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:43.480 It's making international headlines. And in the statement they confirmed 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.880 they were not officially Crumble, but claimed it was clearly 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.280 stated in their bio and comments. They wrote, our goal 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.520 was to bring the authentic Crumble cookies to Australia by 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:57.520 importing the cookies directly from the USA. They also confirmed 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.160 that the cookies were genuine Crumble cookies because there are 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.240 a lot of people on TikTok saying well did they 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.840 just bring in the boxes and make their own cookies, 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.440 So they confirmed that they traveled to the US to 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.720 purchase them and they imported them with their original packaging. 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.199 They even included receipts to show exactly how much they 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.920 paid for the cookies. The statement also addressed the trademark 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.880 concern saying at no point did they use their trademark 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:24.360 in their videos on TikTok. But if you look at 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.800 all of the videos on TikTok of the pop up 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.520 store that other people are sharing, you can clearly see 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:31.680 that the Crumble logo is on a lot of the 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.439 marketing material now in regards to food stanits because there 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.800 was a lot of concern by TikTok users saying, well, 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.719 what would have happened if someone got seriously ill from 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:41.480 one of these cookies? 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:42.600 And how old are they? 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:44.480 Yeah, so a lot of people were actually saying I 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:48.840 actually felt quite sick after consuming one. So the organizers 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.720 claim that the Crumble cookies should be kept at room 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.400 temperature in an air tight container for up to three 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.800 days or refrigerated for ups a day for a cookie 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.240 to last, particularly when you consider the fact that they're 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.960 full of sugar, which makes them last longer. Yeah, they 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.880 would have been awful. So the organizer said, we kept 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.600 them to these requirements. Some were warm to enhance their texture, 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.040 which is what Crumble does as well. I mean, what 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.280 kind of proof do they have though, because they were 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:18.240 importing a huge amount of cookies into the country, Like, 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:22.160 I highly doubt that these were refrigerated. Now, things got 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:26.160 really juicy when they released information on their apparent profits 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.960 and costs. So the organizers claimed it was never about 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:31.920 making money from this pop up. They said it was 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.040 all about bringing the cookies to crumble fans. So is 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.760 that why they charged extortionate prices and seventy five dollars 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.280 for a fucking cookie cutter? Like, come on, I think 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.760 they know they're in the wrong because they've even itemized 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.640 their costs. So they've said they spent four thousand dollars 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.280 on flights and luggage to get the cookies back. I mean, 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:50.840 I'm sure they probably went over and had a bit 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.320 of a holiday in the US. Yeah, go over to 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.679 get cookies. Oh, it was all very professional. Why am 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.600 I getting in my head newman from Seinfeld when he 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.640 was brought in with all of the bad of muffins, 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.880 Like for some reason, I just imagine this, you know, 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:07.319 just all these cookies in different suitcases makes me feel sick. 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.520 They also said that they spent six thousand dollars on 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:14.120 the cookies and packaging, two thousand dollars on duties and 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.680 taxes because they did claim the cookies when they brought 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.320 them into Australia, and they said they spent over one 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:23.560 thousand dollars on staff fees. So this equals thirteen thousand 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.560 dollars in costs. Now, if you do the sums they 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:29.200 had around one thousand cookies which they were selling for 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:33.160 seventeen dollars fifty so I'm not taking into account the 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:35.520 cookie cutters, but they would have made around seventeen and 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.520 a half grand. So they're trying to imply that they 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.120 only made a profit of four and a half grand. 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.280 I mean, would you really go to all of this 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.560 effort for four and a half grand? Well, I feel 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.160 like they would have made a fuck time if anyone 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.840 was buying those cookie cutters as well. But it's clear 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:52.680 that they did this for a profit. They didn't just 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.440 do it out of the goodness of their hearts, because 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.080 they're so keen to bring these cookies to Australia and 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.359 it's such a dumb move because they've opened themselves up 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.760 to one what if people got really sick from the cookies? 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:08.200 Two the legalities around taking a brand's name and pretending 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.720 that you're part of that brand. They were on the 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.240 legal front. They also went on to claim in this 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.480 statement that what they did wasn't illegal, so they said 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:21.360 it is called parallel importing. So parallel importing is defined 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.640 as a business who buys genuine products from overseas and 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:29.640 imports and sells them in Australia without authorization from the manufacturer. 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:33.199 So it's also known as gray importing. So a business 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:37.200 who is supplying parallel imports must one make sure the 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:41.120 products comply with Australian Product safety and labeling requirements. And 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:42.880 this is where I think they might be in a 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.280 bit of hot water, because I don't know if they 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.839 can actually say that it complied with Australian Food and 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.640 Safety lord. Where was it written that the cookies had 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:54.680 to be refrigerated after three days or whatever they're saying. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.160 Where I think they might get in hot water is 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:01.240 under the consumer rights section of parail importing. It states 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:06.160 that people engaging in parallel importing cannot identify a relationship 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:10.440 or any association between the seller and the manufacturer. And 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.560 they have come out on Instagram and TikTok calling themselves 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:17.200 Crumble Sydney. If you are Joe Blow and you see that, 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.800 you just assume they are part of the Crumble business. 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.920 This story is everywhere and the Today Show interviewed Sydney 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.560 lawyer Johann Kalanta who weighed in on the debacle. So 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.640 he said it was clearly a case of them scamming 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.440 people and he even went as far as suggesting that 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:38.160 the real Crumble should pursue legal action. He said, the 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.720 reality is they passed themselves off as Crumble, and once 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.360 they were called out online, all of a sudden, they 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.559 were claiming they're just cookie enthusiasts. They said they were 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.560 just here to provide an experience or a taste, but 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:54.559 as a trademark infringement. Now it's unclear whether the company 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.680 will actually take legal action against his pop up stores. 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.520 So far, we have only heard from one of Crumble's 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:04.080 co founders, Sawyer Hemsley. So he actually commented on an 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.880 Australian tiktoker's video and she had obtained ten of the 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.120 Crumble cookies from Sydney and he wrote, you need to 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.400 try them fresh in the USPS. This pop up is 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.000 not affiliated with Crumble Cookie, so it's quite clear the 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.400 big wigs are aware of what is happening. Now, Sophie, 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.600 do you think this is actually good or bad pr 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.960 for Crumble? I've never heard of Crumble before, which I 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.400 mean people are probably like, what the hell, But I haven't. 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.120 I've never traveled to America, so I don't understand the 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.720 total craze over this cookie. So For me, it's maybe 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.760 more curious to think about wonder what it tastes like, 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.400 wonder what the different flavors are. 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:43.800 And clearly the. 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.760 Fact that there were thousands of people or hundreds of 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.240 people lining the street and willing to pay seventeen fifty 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.479 for a cookie, it shows that they must be delicious, 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.600 and it shows that it's a brand that there's a 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.280 lot of interest and intrigue around. Well, this pop up 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.400 star has almost done a lot of hardin lifting for 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.840 Crumble because they've already tested the market for them. They 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.440 know people want it desperately. But I think there are 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.520 aspects that's quite bad for Crumble because a lot of 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.840 people might not have been able to differentiate between the 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.720 real Crumble store and this pop up and they might 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.840 assume that this is what their cookies taste like, old 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.320 and stale. Well, so it's probably good for Crumble that 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:24.360 there has been so much publicity around it, though we'll 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.120 have to wait and see what actually happens to the organizers. 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.080 I think this will not be the last we hear 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:29.720 of this story. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:34.640 You were fucking about to blow this man's lifer. 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.360 Popular author Kate Forster has dropped a bomb on TikTok 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.640 revealing that the husband of a well known Aussie influencer 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.520 has allegedly impregnated a young woman he was having an 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.480 affair with. Now, before we get into the weeds, as 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.560 a refresher, who is Kate Forster. Well, her name will 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.800 sound familiar because back in August we discussed how she'd 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.840 gone viral for calling out the Henny Cardigan that was 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.360 actually one of my favorites in a long time, And 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:05.080 since then she has exploded in popularity on TikTok. She 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:09.480 has over sixty thousand followers, and she offers advice and 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:10.760 she does funny reviews. 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:12.600 I absolutely love her content. 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.560 I think she is a legend and she's really taken 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.600 on this new role of an agony art, which is 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:22.040 why I think so many people feel comfortable sending her 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:22.680 in gossip. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.239 Because she said that her dms are full. 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.320 Of information about influencers or people in the public eye, 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.840 and she doesn't know what people want her to do 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:36.280 with the information. Now, usually Kate sits on information like this, However, 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.280 she decided to reveal a few details, so on TikTok 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.840 she shared a video entitled Secrets in the Dms and 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.920 added the tea is brewing now. In this video, Kate 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.760 revealed that a woman in her early twenties is allegedly 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.520 having an affair with the husband of a quite well 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:55.280 known Aussie influencer. Now, the young woman claims she is 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.600 now pregnant and wants to keep the baby, but the 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.440 husband is adamant he doesn't want to keep it and 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.680 has not told his wife about the affair. Now, the 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.879 reason that Kate chose to divulge this rumor is because 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.399 she believes the information is true. Here's what she said. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.200 It's just the wife is selling this lifestyle and it's 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.159 not like that because the husband is fucking groping for 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.600 trout in a peculiar river, as Shakespeare once said. So 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.119 as far as I could tell, and she sent me 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.560 some Instagram receipts, I think it is true. And I 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.640 said to her, you are fucking about to blow this 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.880 man's life up if you go public with his because 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.120 she wants to go public. And I said, and you're 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.600 going to blow the wife's life up because she clearly 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.639 doesn't know, or it looks like she doesn't know. I 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:43.800 don't know. You can't tell anything about social media. 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.600 I feel really sorry for this particular influencer if this 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:52.080 is true, because it would be awful having all of 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.560 these people know this information about you but you don't 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.800 know anything about it yet. Yeah, I feel a lot 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.520 of sympathy for her as well. Kate was careful not 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:05.479 to outline too many distinguishing details about the couple to 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.159 the point where I'm struggling to figure out who it 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.520 is myself, and I think it would be irresponsible for 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:14.119 us to even guess guess who it is because we 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.840 have no idea. We don't even know if this story 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.359 is true. This is just a rumor now. The only 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.800 real clues are that the wife is an Aussie influencer 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.040 who is trying to build a TikTok following, so that 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.719 could be so many people, and that the couple are 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.479 selling this lifestyle that doesn't appear to be true. So 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.720 I'm guessing they post about having the perfect family and 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:37.919 the perfect relationship and our in defense of this Oussie influencer. 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:41.200 If she doesn't know about the cheating, maybe she thinks 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:44.159 that her and her husband do have a perfect relationship 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.080 and she's been blindsided by the whole thing, so what 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.680 she is sharing online feels real to her. 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:51.040 If that makes sense. 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.560 Yeah. I mean, look, we've spoken about it before. A 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:56.760 lot of what you see on Instagram and TikTok, we 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:57.600 all know it's fake. 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:01.120 Yeah, well this just makes me feel so because can. 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.439 You imagine if your husband was having an affair and 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.359 instead of him or this woman coming to you privately 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:10.400 and telling you what happened, you find out by literally 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:13.960 a TikTok video like someone going public about it online, 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.800 presumably for Clout as well. He was gonna say, I mean, 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.639 what are her motivations for going public? I mean, if 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:21.639 she really wants the wife to know, why doesn't she 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:23.920 just contact her in her DMS and said why does 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:25.720 I have to be so public? And also why is 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:27.199 she contacting Kate Forster? 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:27.760 Yeah? 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:31.119 I don't understand why you would DM a total stranger 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.800 about this private information. The only reason I can think 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:39.000 of is that this woman is incredibly young, and she's 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.199 pregnant at the moment, so she probably feels out of 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:45.040 control and really vulnerable. And maybe she's going to Kate 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.120 because she's seen her videos online. Maybe she views her 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.879