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Speaker 1: This is jem Nation with Jen Zanda. What's this music, Brenda?

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Speaker 2: It's the theme from the Ghost of Missus Muell.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there you go.

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Speaker 3: Seeing dead people is one thing, but how about exercising

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Speaker 3: evil spirits?

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Speaker 1: This music's not really appropriate.

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Speaker 3: Nothing's too strange for Australia's famed ghost whisperer, psychic healer,

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Speaker 3: exorcist and author, Katerina Legato is now giving others a

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Speaker 3: front row seat to the bizarre and quite spooky activity

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Speaker 3: that surrounds us every day. She's got a thrilling new

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Speaker 3: podcast and YouTube series called The Australian Ghost Whisperer Brendan,

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Speaker 3: do you want to ask her about the Ghost of

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Speaker 3: Missus Muir?

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Speaker 1: Here she is Katerina Legato.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Katerina. Did you ever watch The Ghost and

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Speaker 2: Missus Muir? He was an old sea captain that haunted

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Speaker 2: an old house and that young lady goes and moves

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Speaker 2: in and he'd scared every other way, but he was

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Speaker 2: beguiled by.

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Speaker 4: Her and love.

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Speaker 1: They fell in love.

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Speaker 2: It was Ghost and She was like movie that was

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Speaker 2: a TV series. I used to watch it every afternoon

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Speaker 2: after score.

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Speaker 4: I saw it as a classic, one of the classic movies.

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Speaker 2: I think it started as a movie. Yeah, can that

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Speaker 2: so sweet? In the world of ghosts, can that happen?

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Speaker 2: Could a ghost and ethereal being formed?

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Speaker 4: Definitely? A spirit can be attracted to a person absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Interesting.

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Speaker 4: When a person dies, they still retain much of their personality.

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Speaker 4: So perhaps if they were kind of flirty or perhaps

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Speaker 4: had missed out on true love, they may be attracted

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Speaker 4: to someone that is in physical reality. That could be

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Speaker 4: someone that they would have had a relationship with had

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Speaker 4: they had that opportunity. Yes, I have had lots of

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Speaker 4: situations where women and men have come to me and

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Speaker 4: it's like I am being followed by this person and

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Speaker 4: this spirit lays in bed with me at night and

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Speaker 4: I feel this spirit touching me and it's so creepy.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it's so interesting.

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Speaker 3: Why with ghosts, why do some people in ghost form

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Speaker 3: hang around and others don't.

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Speaker 4: Yes, because many people, at the time of their passing

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Speaker 4: feel they have unfinished business here on earth, and they

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Speaker 4: feel that they were not ready to die, and perhaps

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Speaker 4: they don't have a good understanding of the death process,

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Speaker 4: so they become afraid at the point of dying, and

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Speaker 4: they tend to just cling to the physical reality rather

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Speaker 4: than crossover into the spirit realms, have ghosts.

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Speaker 1: Ever given you insight into what the other side is like?

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's absolutely magnificent. It's a place where only love exists.

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Speaker 4: But it's also a place where the spirit has an

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Speaker 4: opportunity to heal and resolve issues that perhaps they were

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Speaker 4: not able to heal and resolve in physical reality. So

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Speaker 4: there is still much work to be done on the

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Speaker 4: other side. When you crossover, it doesn't mean that you're

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Speaker 4: just sitting around in bliss, because it's all about the journeys,

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Speaker 4: about the evolution of the soul and obviously returning into

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Speaker 4: oneness with Creator God.

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Speaker 3: You having this gift, does it always feel like a gift?

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Speaker 3: If you're a plumber and you're a dinner party and

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Speaker 3: you say you're a plumber, everyone what's their plumbing there,

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Speaker 3: it'd be very hard for you to say what you

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Speaker 3: do without people wanting to load their stuff onto you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it is a gift. It is a true honor.

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Speaker 4: I feel really privileged to have this gift. But yes,

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Speaker 4: this is the thing. Sometimes if I go to a

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Speaker 4: party or somewhere, I just do not tell people what

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Speaker 4: I do for a living. Otherwise that's the end. People

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Speaker 4: do dump on me. They don't mean to, it's an

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Speaker 4: automatic thing. They just feel it at some level that

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Speaker 4: perhaps I can help them. So but I've as I

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Speaker 4: obviously became more experienced in what I've done, in what

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Speaker 4: I'm doing, I was able to put that a little

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Speaker 4: more under control.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's other kid in the sixth sense, you know,

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Speaker 2: when he realizes he can help these people. You know,

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Speaker 2: at the end of the movie there he says, Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: you know you've had a pushbike accident.

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Speaker 1: Mate, you're dead.

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Speaker 2: To go to the afternoon people.

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Speaker 4: And that is so true. A person can die and

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Speaker 4: not realize they've died, and return to their home and

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Speaker 4: carry on for quite a while until they realize that

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Speaker 4: perhaps they're fat. Family members or wife is no longer

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Speaker 4: kind of taking notice of them. So this is quite

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Speaker 4: a sad situation that have come across spirits when I

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Speaker 4: do house clearings, where the spirits like I just you know,

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Speaker 4: how did this happen? How did I die? Why am

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Speaker 4: I dead? I don't want to be here. It's really sad.

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Speaker 4: They do feel quite lost and quite emotional because sometimes

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Speaker 4: it's just like I said, they can't come to terms

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Speaker 4: with their passing.

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Speaker 2: Wow, maybe I died years ago because no one pays

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Speaker 2: any attention to me. Maybe that's what I did. Like

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Speaker 2: I went into JB High fire the other day and

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Speaker 2: I didn't even exist, So maybe that's it.

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Speaker 4: I think I like a Spriller, I could have got to.

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Speaker 2: The other side. Yes, well, Katerina, this is fascinating The

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Speaker 2: Australian Ghost Whisperer. Download it now on your favorite podcast app.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Oh it's been my absolute pleasure. I love you guys.

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Speaker 4: I love listening to your station.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Katerina. On the other side, that would be.

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Speaker 3: My fear is that if someone's passed away and you

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Speaker 3: get on with your life, is that they see it

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Speaker 3: all they see you on the toilet.

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Speaker 2: I would so come back and haunt you.

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Speaker 1: I know you. I would be there, you would you

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Speaker 1: And that my clock. There'd be bad time calls and

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Speaker 1: I think it's Jones.

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Speaker 2: You're on the toilet again, marm.

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Speaker 1: Fascinating