1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: History made in Melbourne. Welcome to the AO rap. You're 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: with the late crew. 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: I'm Bret Thomas and I'm Lexi Mitchell. Here's your quick 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 2: hit from day fifteen. There's a new king in town, 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: Carlos d thrones Novak at the Australian Open. 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: Pete Maccado from AO Radio will help us break it down, 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: plus that Edwards will recap the women's final on the evening. 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: Serve second serve. 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 4: Championship points on the backhand of el Karaz Djokovic, big 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 4: up point. 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: It's long. 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 4: And it's a destiny fulfilled for Carlos al Chaz six 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 4: six three, his first Australian Open title. 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 5: You know, every year they came here to Australia, I 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 5: was thinking about getting the trophy. Couldn't couldn't happen, couldn't 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 5: go fighted on quarterfinals and you know, coming this this 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 5: year angry for more, ambitious forgetting the trophy and you know, 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 5: being strong mentally enough to not kidding anything or any 19 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 5: words from the people and then just playing a good 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 5: tennis in this tournament. Minsala means the war to me 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 5: and then it is a dream come true for me. 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: Very lucky to be joined by Pete mccado, fresh out 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: of the booth from AO Radio. He's got only a 24 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: little bit of voice left, a little bit like Novak Djokovic. 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: If it was going to go to five sets? Would 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: you have the legs? If it had gone to five Pete, 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: would you have had the voice? 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 3: Look, I will be honest. 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 4: I'll give you an exclusive here because I quite enjoyed 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: this podcast over the last two weeks ause we've been 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: playing on AO Radio. How did it have gone a 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 4: fifth set? I might have been struggling. I might have 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 4: been struggling. It has been a long tournament. We would 34 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 4: have been here till probably midnight as well. Yeah, we 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 4: would have been a bit of a battle. It's a 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: very tough to pretend to player's favorite word. 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: I couldn't have taken some inspiration from Novak to just 38 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: push on. 39 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: I would have pushed on. 40 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: What I would have sounded like at the end would 41 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 4: be just, I don't know, be something completely different. 42 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: Now, let's read a little bit. 43 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: As you were preparing for tonight when you stepped in 44 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: the booth, who did you think the crowd would Whose 45 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: side would they be on? Would it be Novak or oh? 46 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: Correct? 47 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 4: So It's been interesting because the last couple of rounds 48 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: has had the crowd support he did against Yanick Sinner. 49 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: Mind you, Yanick's not the player that will fire far 50 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 4: up the crowd and say come with me and all 51 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 4: of that sort of stuff. Obviously, the Serbian fans were 52 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 4: here and they were quite loud. When Carlos got going 53 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 4: and things were just starting to roll his way, he 54 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 4: then decided, right, I'm going to fire up the crowd 55 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 4: and they went with him. 56 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty fifty to fifty in the stadium. 57 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's also for a long time we've seen 58 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 4: in the Federer and Nadah zu Rafa was here that 59 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 4: you know, they have been cheering for those players and 60 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 4: not cheering for Novak, and he's felt that considering he's 61 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 4: one of the title that many times. Yeah, but it's 62 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: thirty round now, so he's kind of the player that's 63 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 4: coming in a bit as the underdog, the one not 64 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: favored to win, and all of a sudden the crowds 65 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: on each side, and he's harnessed that out there, and 66 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: once we got into that fourth set that the crowd 67 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 4: had just built and built and built, it was an 68 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 4: amazing atmosphere. 69 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: I felt around Melbourne Park that it was clearly team 70 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: Novak today. And we know he has his loyal band 71 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: of supporters, but generally the neutral has been on Roger 72 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: or Raffa's side, and I thought that might be for 73 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: El Karaz, but I thought it was predominantly Djokovic. 74 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And it builds as the tournament's gone along. 75 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 4: You said in the presentation, I can't see what's happening 76 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: twelve months from now, but you know the way he's playing, 77 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: you'll be back. But let's see what circumstances arrive at 78 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 4: year's time. 79 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: Now, take us through the first set. I mean, Carlos 80 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: said he was surprised at how Novak just caught him 81 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: off guard and really got the jump he was serving. Well, 82 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: what else did you sort of pick up? 83 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, he picked up where he left off against Sinner. 84 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: The fact that it was actually cooler conditions for the final, 85 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: I thought, oh, okay, he went after everything against Sinner. 86 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: So he's hitting a really heavy ball. You start to 87 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: make the conditions a bit heavier. That gives an opportunity 88 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 4: for al Karez to stay in the points a little 89 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: bit longer. But you said it the serve was the 90 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: main thing he was able to hit. It was incredible serving. 91 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: But then he was able to take control of the 92 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 4: points from there and it was like, okay, okay, this 93 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 4: is continuing on from what we saw in the semi final. 94 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 4: Now that level started to drop in the second set, 95 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: but that's the Novak Djokovic that we've come to know. 96 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: That's the Novak Djokovic has won so many titles here 97 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 4: the fact that he could play at that level against 98 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: Carlos Olkerez. I mean, the results overall probably won't surprise 99 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 4: too many people. I think a lot of people who 100 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: weren't predicting straight sets, but they were saying, ah, Carlos, 101 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 4: but it'll be in four sets. But Novak Djokovic put 102 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: on a great account of what he's done over all 103 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: this time and what he still can do. 104 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: There was a moment where was Carlos asking for the 105 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: roof to be fully closed. 106 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 4: He was asking about the change in condition. So the 107 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 4: roof was slowly edging close. 108 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 3: So but not fully closed. 109 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 6: No. 110 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 4: But if we got rain, rather than have this long 111 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: drawn out let's it would take a minute or two 112 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 4: and then the cleanup would be very quick. So we 113 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 4: can get play happening again, and he's just saying, look, 114 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: this is probably going to be a changing condition. It's 115 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 4: more turning into an indoor thing. We need to sort 116 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 4: of know what the situation's going to be. And it 117 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 4: was more an insurance policy in case it rain. Didn't 118 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: rain tonight. It was quite windy out there, but it 119 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 4: certainly didn't rain, and that's what he was asking about. 120 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: Now the script was flipped in the second set. Did 121 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: you think that Elkraz may have been a carry of 122 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: effect from his semi final in terms of the way 123 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: he started and then sort of warmed into the match 124 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: from the second set onwards. 125 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was Novak. I think it was about Novak 126 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 4: the same the other night. It was about Novak went 127 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 4: out and won that match against the Nick Sinners said 128 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: it didn't lose it, same thing here. It was Novak 129 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 4: taking control as I've seen so many times before. Yeah, okay, 130 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 4: there might have been just a few little butterflies potentially 131 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: for Alkaraz, but certainly it was about Novak dominating the 132 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: doing what he needed to do. Whether he was able 133 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 4: to sustain that was that the next question. Now, obviously 134 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: he wasn't able to, as we know, spoiler all that, 135 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: but you know it was it was a mighty performance 136 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 4: in that first set. I mean, if I replicated that 137 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: over the next two sets, he's probably winning the match. 138 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: We're going very close to it. 139 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, as you were saying that, the sort of 140 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: storyline just did flip over. In that second set. Carlos 141 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: seemed to then be in control, winning the first the 142 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: shorter points, but it was just, you know, whoever was 143 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: dominating just sort of took out that set. But then 144 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: in the third I felt like things sort of started 145 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: to fire up a bit. We're getting really creative play, 146 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: like Djokovic hitting one around the post and then just 147 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: being in awe of having it returned to him. 148 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: Yeah. 149 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I think the thing was that the rally 150 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 4: started to lengthen a bit more as well. We got 151 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 4: a few more of the spectacular points, we got more 152 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 4: of the contest. That second set went by very quickly, 153 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: and I was, okay, Carlos getting things back on track. 154 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 4: Is he going to run away with it? And certainly 155 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: that was kind of the thought process of what I 156 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: was thinking. I was stepping out as we were shuffling 157 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 4: our commentators around. But the third set was more of 158 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: that kind of arm wrestle, and certainly, you know, you 159 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 4: go deep into that set, you get that break of serve. 160 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: Remembering how many break points Novak saved tonight on the 161 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 4: semi final as well, exactly what he was able to do. 162 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: And then as he was doing that, you know in 163 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: the fourth set as well, if you remember, I think 164 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: it was six break points in one of the games. 165 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: Is his first service game of the fourth set, which 166 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: ended up which I thought might be a key game 167 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: either way if Novak went on to win, Carlos would 168 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: look back at that similar to Yannick in the fifth 169 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: set the other night. And but for Novak, yeah, that 170 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: was a tough hole and that's when he really got 171 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: the crowd into it as well. 172 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I mean he held and that It's interesting 173 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 4: because normally the Ciner match, he was yelling at his team, 174 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: he was muttering to himself. He wanted to keep himself 175 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: on edge because the crowd was on his side and 176 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: he knew it was a big shot of winning deep 177 00:07:54,960 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: down tonight or the final. When we're recording this, it was. 178 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: Very not subdued. 179 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: But it took him a long time to do that, 180 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: to fire the crowd up to get people going, and 181 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 4: once he did, obviously that amped everything up and I 182 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: think that's where we got the atmosphere. But it was 183 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 4: a Novak Djokovic that he was focused, he was determined 184 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: all of those sort of things, but we didn't see 185 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 4: any of the other stuff that yelling to any of 186 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 4: that sort of anger and aggression. It's still playing a 187 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: bit on the edge, but you know, it was very 188 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: more much more controlled that we saw there. 189 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 7: At for all. 190 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: That's yeah, when the crowd starts really ramping up our 191 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: cras is on serve, he has a break point against 192 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: opportunity against him hold serve. Then going into the final 193 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: game where Novaks serving the first point just seemed to 194 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: really zap his energy. I mean, is do you think 195 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: that's sort of the moment where he was out like 196 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: set the wheels in motion for it to all just 197 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: you know, well. 198 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: I reckon, You'd have to ask him. 199 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 4: But you know, as we went along in the match, 200 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: there were just those moments where the high standard that 201 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 4: he'd set right at the very start of the match, 202 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 4: which we were just talking about, just started to drop 203 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 4: a little bit. 204 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: So it wasn't as high. 205 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 4: I'm still amazing tennis obviously, and some of the rallies 206 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: that we saw tonight, the speed around the court from 207 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 4: both players, obviously getting creative, throwing in the drop shot, 208 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 4: trying a couple of different things. 209 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: It is interesting because. 210 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: Novak has said at the end, you know, when he's 211 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 4: come here and he's won titles, he's asked about, you. 212 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: Know, what do you do in the off season? World 213 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: number one? 214 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: You know, he just sort of cruise long as nah, 215 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 4: I need to get better because the guys who are 216 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 4: coming up, they're going to get me. And we've seen that. 217 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 4: But for tonight's match, we saw a bit more creativity 218 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 4: from him. He was trying a few different things and 219 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 4: as obviously been working on that for his team. And 220 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 4: we go right, here's a picture of Carlos, here's a 221 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 4: picture of Yunicks, Cinner, what are we going to do 222 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: to beat them? And obviously got one, didn't get the other, 223 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 4: but it's you know, he's doing different things. He is 224 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 4: trying to keep his game at that top level and 225 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 4: working out tactically what he had to do. Once we 226 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: got to that stage of you know, sort of looking 227 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 4: at and going okay, that levels dropped a little bit. 228 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 4: There's a few more enforced eras Carlos is winning a 229 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 4: few more of those rallies. Yeah, he got towards the end, 230 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 4: and you know, it dropped away a little bit, but 231 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 4: it was still maintaining a high standards. 232 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: Just that Carlos was better on the night. 233 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: He'd never hit the ball bigger against Sinner and especially 234 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: in the first set against El Karaz, and his first 235 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: serve was so consistent. But after that point that Lexi 236 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: talked about, he started missing a few first serves and 237 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: it felt that's when El Karaz was able to pounce. 238 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 239 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean, if you're serving eighty percent, which I 240 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 4: don't know if it quite was that it was. 241 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: Seventy first set, it was like high seventies, and the 242 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: fourth set for most of it till that last game 243 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: it was as well. 244 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 7: Seventy one overall in that for yes. 245 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 4: And then you're hitting your spots and you're getting some 246 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: free points. Bearing in mind too so that both players 247 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: are really good putting returns back into play. So we 248 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: didn't say a hell of a lot of ass either, 249 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 4: like this is what these modern player is so good at. Yes, 250 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 4: the big servers are out there, but they're getting more 251 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: balls back into play, so you don't have as many 252 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 4: free points, plenty. 253 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: Of plus ones. 254 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 4: But you know, that's when we started to see the 255 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 4: rallies kind of lengthening a little bit as well. 256 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: So I just want to go through the men who 257 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: have played Jokovic in the final and failed. We've got Songer, Murray, Nadal, 258 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: team Medvedev sits a pass just such a like a 259 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: long string of players. I mean, do you think tonight's 260 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: match is that the Is this the official changing of 261 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: the guard? 262 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 4: I did say on a radio that it was the 263 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 4: passing of the baton that we've gone now officially from Hey, 264 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 4: Gnix Sin has done it. Now Carlos Olkarez gets that 265 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: opportunity from someone who has won this tournament so many times, 266 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: and the fact that he is playing at this level 267 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 4: no back and potentially I could go over this for 268 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: a little while. 269 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: He's closer to the end than the start. 270 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 4: And it's quite obvious now that we're saying this rivalry 271 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 4: between Sinner and el Karez. Who's going to come up 272 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 4: behind them? Not sure, but it certainly had that feeling 273 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 4: of it tonight. I think did you hear Novak's speech? 274 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: I did. 275 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 6: I had a winning speech prepared and a losing speech prepared. 276 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 6: So let me let me go back to it one second. Yeah, okay, 277 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 6: now I want to keep it short. This is Carlos's 278 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 6: moment jogs aside. I want to just say in the 279 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 6: end that you guys, particularly the last couple of matches, 280 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 6: gave me something that I have never experienced in Australia 281 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 6: that much love supports. But I must be very honest 282 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 6: and say that I didn't, you know, think that I 283 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 6: would be standing in a closing ceremony of a Grand 284 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 6: Slam once again. 285 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: So God knows. 286 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 6: God knows what happens tomorrow, let alone in six months 287 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 6: or twelve months or he has been a green rage. 288 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 6: I love you guys. 289 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: Did you feel that he was sort of hinting at retirement, 290 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: whether it's his last season on tour or yeah, at 291 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: least his last. 292 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you've got to canvass it. And I think that, 293 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 4: you know, we saw it with Federer, We've seen with 294 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: dal There's no ideal moment to go by the way 295 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: I'm saying goodbye, I'm out, let's have a farewell year 296 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 4: kind of. 297 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 3: Thing, like we've seen him stand. 298 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but you know, they the chance to potentially 299 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 4: go on his own terms. He may get that, he 300 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 4: may not. It might be, you know, he gets an 301 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 4: injury along the way this season, he'll obviously he can 302 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: choose what tournaments he wants to play. He's not playing 303 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 4: as many these days, which is fair enough. He may 304 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 4: not get that opportunity to choose. So in twelve months time, 305 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 4: as he said, anything could happen. I mean, if the 306 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 4: body's right, he's still playing this level, so there's no 307 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 4: reason why he can't be here. But ultimately he'll make 308 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 4: that decision when he's ready, if he can. 309 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: He did say this is Carlos's moment, So for me, 310 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: I feel like that is as loss. You can get 311 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: an announcement without making it one. 312 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's also. 313 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: Just that the marker of I'm not going to take 314 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 4: all the attention and talk for half an. 315 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: Hour and you make it all about me. 316 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 4: It's about him, So yeah, I mean, look, it was 317 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: a bit at the end of six months. I can't 318 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 4: say six months in the future, let alone twelve months. 319 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 4: So you know, thanks, if this is the if this 320 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: is the last time. 321 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: Now the Carlos has got the AO title in his bag, 322 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: seventh major youngest to achieve the career Grand Slam twenty 323 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: two years of age. It's crazy to think how many 324 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: he might end up with. 325 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 6: Now that you've won the Career Slam at such a 326 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 6: crazy young age, got two or the other three trophies. 327 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 6: Can you dream of winning all four in the same year. 328 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 5: Well, this is it's going to be a big challenge. 329 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 5: Those are big wards, to be honest, you know, I 330 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 5: just wanted to be on one out of time right now. 331 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 5: Next one is you know, French Open half green memories 332 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 5: are green memories in that tournament. I feel really special 333 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 5: every time they have gone there. So I don't I 334 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 5: don't want you to put myself in a really pressure position. 335 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: I don't ask me how many. 336 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how quickly the next generation, though, has 337 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: come in because you think, wow, we've just seen the 338 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: best era of men's tennis Federa at Nadal Djokovic. Now 339 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: we've got center in El Karaz and they're so young. 340 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: This could be another decade and a half of dominance. 341 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: It could be. Is that exciting? 342 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I think there have been a lot of people, 343 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 4: high percentage of people in the media area where we 344 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 4: are and also out in the crowd and go you 345 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 4: know what we want and Al Karaz Center final again. 346 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 4: Won't that be great? Because they always turn it on, right, 347 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 4: they always turn it on and they do. You know, 348 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: those two just keep building, building building. We need to 349 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: see who's coming in underneath difference or a narrative to 350 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 4: what we have on the women's side, where coming into 351 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: a tournament there's at least you know, I would say ten, 352 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: maybe fifteen players. He can build a genuine case for 353 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 4: get to the semi finals, get to the quarterfinals, every 354 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 4: single player go, yeah, you can win the title. That's 355 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 4: an exciting narrative on that side. It's a bit more 356 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: one v two on the me inside. Now, the big 357 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 4: question is what tattoo will Carlos get. He's got the Strawberry, 358 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 4: He's got the Eiffel Tower. 359 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, what will he. 360 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 7: Get the Southern Cross tattoo? 361 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: Australian move the Montague Street Bridge? Oh? 362 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: What would he get? I mean, can he do a 363 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: replica of rod Labor Arena? 364 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 5: Like? 365 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 7: Would he do a be could it. 366 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: Be kind of Koala? Seems a little lame. 367 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 7: This quaker something a bit more niche. 368 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean, I'm sure someone will ask 369 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: him impressed at some stage what that's going to be. 370 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 7: Yep, So can you say, sum up, no vaxed run 371 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 7: for us. 372 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 373 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 7: I'm still I'm just. 374 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: Surprised that I was watching the final and still couldn't 375 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: believe that he was in it. 376 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: Amazing, unbelievable. It was great to watch him in Middley. 377 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 4: You know, he's helped along the way with the retirement 378 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 4: the forefoot, but that great. You take that luck and 379 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 4: you're on with it, and he certainly took that. But 380 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 4: what he showed against Janick Sinner and what he proved 381 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 4: to everyone, the other people are going he should retire, 382 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 4: he should finish this, that and the other. He answered 383 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 4: the critics, answered the critics tonight as well. I think 384 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 4: in terms of that final, like the way that he played, 385 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 4: the way that he went about it, he's been super again. 386 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 3: If this is the. 387 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 4: Last time, if it's all of that sort of stuff, 388 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 4: what an exit to make. 389 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: Okay, didn't win the. 390 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 4: Title, but got pretty darn close to doing it and 391 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 4: still playing at the level to allow him in this 392 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 4: era to be playing off for majors. He's just been phenomenal, 393 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: and that's in a match one of his greatest performances. 394 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: And he wasn't asked about retirement in press, so he 395 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: probably convinced them. 396 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 397 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 4: Well he's responded, say, look, you criticize me. People have 398 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 4: been the critics out there, Well look at what I've 399 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 4: just done, absolutely and what he can continue to do. 400 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: He will have a statue at some stage should we 401 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: go through our ace or unforced era for the AO 402 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: and kick us off, serf. 403 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: I can kick us off with one that happened tonight. 404 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 2: We're watching what are you about an unforced hour on 405 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: match point? 406 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 7: I was getting ready. 407 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 3: He probably needs to explain where we watch. 408 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we watched the match from our podcast studio. 409 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: We've got the TV in front of us, and I 410 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: was watching the final point. Open my laptop and the 411 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: very first thing that pops up on the screen is 412 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: the final score. So I learned of the ends delay 413 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 2: about fifteen seconds. 414 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 7: Had to hold my tongue not tell bred that. 415 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: I yeah, thank you, thank you very much for no 416 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: spoiler alerts there. My ace goes to John Blom, Lady. 417 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 4: You can bull out during the moins, you will be 418 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 4: sent out and that will ruin your night. 419 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: Please, Okay? I like that for his elite out control. 420 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: A makes for me for the tournament would be the 421 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: veterans that really earned their wild cards. 422 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 7: I mean Venus Williams gave. 423 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: Us just a little bit of something in the first 424 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: round and then standra Rink come making it all the 425 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: way to the third endearing himself to all the Aussies. 426 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that up until the semifinals. What do 427 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: you think the match of the tournament was? Was it 428 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: stand from way back earlier? 429 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 8: Yeah? 430 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: It was a good crowd atmosphere, wasn't it. I think 431 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: it was. 432 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 4: It's one of those things when you talk about a 433 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 4: major of having one that really lights up the site, 434 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 4: like everyone's watching, whether they're around the site or in 435 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 4: the stadium, everything like that. The crowd support everything, cheering 436 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: him on like we it was a late call for 437 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 4: him to get the world up in the first place, 438 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 4: and he comes in and he does what he does there. 439 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: I talk about an ace. You want to add to 440 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 4: that sharing a beer with Craig Tiley sharing a beer 441 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: on John Cane Arena. I reckon Craig by that stay's 442 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 4: probably hating for a beery stand. Thanks mate, let's get 443 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 4: that sort of and well done to him. I think 444 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 4: you're right in terms of what he was able to 445 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 4: juice was phenomenal. 446 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, yeah, another unforced hour. Sorry to 447 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 2: finish it on a low, but no five setters on 448 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: Urla until the Semis, but we did get some incredible stuff. 449 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: Sorry. Can I turn your unforced era into an ace? 450 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 4: Yes, you can because one of the things that we 451 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 4: have not talked about during the tournament the late finishes. 452 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: Yes, that's an ace for us. 453 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 4: That's an a and we're going to be self indulgent, 454 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 4: but we can be because they're on the way out. 455 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 4: But I think we haven't had too many late finishes. 456 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 4: So the schedule actually worked particularly well. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, 457 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 4: having the extra or starting on a Sunday. Do you 458 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: think this is sort of the year that's paid off. No, 459 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 4: it's more just the timing of the day, starting at 460 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 4: eleven thirty on Rod Laver Arena. And yes, obviously you know, 461 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 4: if we had long drawn out three set and five 462 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 4: set matches, then different story. But you know, the matches 463 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 4: were spaced out. Okay, we got through them quite comfortably. 464 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 4: Even the final wasn't too late, and everyone got their 465 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 4: money's worth. Everyone got their money's worth one point three 466 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 4: million plus people across the three weeks coming through the 467 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 4: gates and whatever you think about that defit ace to 468 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: the site here at Melbourne Park, which is look magnificent. 469 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 4: There's so much for people to see, and I mean 470 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 4: I've seen and done none of it, to be honest, 471 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: but the fact that you can actually do that and 472 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 4: we know is Melbournian's how big these twos now three 473 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: weeks are for this city and what it means that 474 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 4: we get around it this time of the year, and 475 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: how lucky we are to be here doing it. Well, 476 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 4: it's an ACE four again. 477 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: Record crowd numbers fifty six thousand just over for that 478 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: today one point three million I think for the whole tournament, 479 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: So that's incredible. We'll come back and get your predictions 480 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty seven, but you might as well hear 481 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: me stuff up these names for the junior winners today. 482 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: The junior girls our first to French winners since nineteen 483 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: ninety nine, because Senior ephram Ova, that's sound right, Junior 484 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: girls final defending a Catarina tips senior in straight sets. 485 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, I forgot that right. And then the junior. 486 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: Boys how about this for a name, Zigga says scope. 487 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 7: I like that. 488 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: That sounds like a nineties dance song or artist or 489 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: something like that. He's the first Slovenian boy to win 490 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: a Junior Grand Slam, coming from behind to defeat American 491 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: Keaton Hands in three sets. So he lost the first set, 492 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: then a few hours after that had to get on 493 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: a plane because he's playing a Davis Cup tie for 494 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: Slavenia on Friday against Turkey. 495 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 4: And this is the thing, right that the tennis too. 496 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 4: It doesn't stop. So we get to Monday. People will 497 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 4: be listening to this podcast on a Monday, there are 498 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 4: tournaments ready to go, and there are players ready to play. 499 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 4: Everyone just kind of scatters, and then we've got the 500 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 4: representative stuff going on to It just keeps moving from 501 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 4: place to place to place and rolls out of town 502 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 4: here and it's into the next city. 503 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: I've got an IF tournament I think it's in Brisbane 504 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: this coming weekend that I'm doing some commentary for. 505 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: Where you enjoy that. Yeah, I'm going to enjoy resting 506 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 3: mode absolutely. All right, we have phones off just in 507 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 3: case you're right. 508 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: Pete Meccado from AO Radio joining us. Let's see now 509 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: from Nat Edwards on the evening serve. Then we'll come 510 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: back and get out two early predictions for twenty twenty seven. 511 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 9: What are women's final we were treated to last night 512 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 9: Elena Barkaner, the women's champion here at the Australian Open 513 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 9: in twenty twenty six. We will unpack that match as 514 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 9: well on the evening serve. My name is Nat Edwards 515 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 9: and it's great to have your company wherever you're listening 516 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 9: around the world. 517 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 10: Very exciting. 518 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 9: It is a massive night of tennis ahead, as I 519 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 9: mentioned before, a historic night here at the Australian Open. 520 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 9: As I welcome in our special guests for this evening on. 521 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 10: The evening serve. 522 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 9: It's a very good evening. I've said evening about five 523 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 9: times to Dennis Writer, co host of the sit down 524 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 9: podcast NATURALO. 525 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 10: Welcome to you. 526 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 11: Good to see that this evening. 527 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, this is awesome. 528 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 11: We've got a big hour ahead of us and yeah, 529 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 11: what a fitting conclusion to tonight. I'm so to the tournament. 530 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 11: I'm so excited. 531 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 9: Also, here is a radio commentator and formis tennis player herself. 532 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 7: Your greatest Jill. 533 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 12: What do you thank you? It's so nice to be 534 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 12: here for the first time. 535 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 9: Let's talk some tennis though, because last night there was 536 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 9: an incredible final on Elena Rebark and the defeating Arena 537 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 9: Sabalinka six four four six six four. 538 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 10: Jill, just your. 539 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 9: Thoughts off the top about the match and where it 540 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 9: was one It just seemed to me. I mean when 541 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 9: I was watching, when Sabalanca broke early in that third 542 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 9: and she went three love up, I was like, oh, 543 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 9: here we go. 544 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 10: You just can't stop her momentum. 545 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 9: But it'syc we Bark and I just decided I'm gonna 546 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 9: step up. She moved forward into the court a little 547 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 9: bit more and just played more aggressive. 548 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 12: Well, she started playing again how she did in the 549 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 12: first set. I mean, she came out on fire in 550 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 12: the beginning, and I felt like it almost surprised Sablenca 551 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 12: to some degree, even though that sounds weird to say that, 552 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 12: because she knows what to expect. I mean, she knows 553 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 12: she's going to come out playing big, serving beg but 554 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 12: it took it took just a few games for Saberlenca 555 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 12: almost to catch up to the peace, which sounds really 556 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 12: funny because Sabileanca brings a ton of peace on her own, 557 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 12: but it seemed that way to me. And then I 558 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 12: was surprised in the third set that Rebakena she started 559 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 12: a little bit slow, and it was a combination of 560 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 12: her starting slow and Sabolenka's starting really strong and Saballenka, 561 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 12: I mean, Sorrybakena. Her ball didn't have as much on 562 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 12: it in the beginning of the third set. It was 563 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 12: landing pretty short and Sableanca, of course, is going to 564 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 12: make you pay in that situation. But yes, I agree 565 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 12: with you. At three love, you feel like, okay, this 566 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 12: is going to be tough. 567 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 10: But I mean she. 568 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 12: Flipped a switch, and credit to her never got down. 569 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 12: Rebuccan never got down on herself, never really almost didn't 570 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 12: think about the score line. I even looked over at 571 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 12: her coach, Stefan Vukov at love three down, and he 572 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 12: wasn't even chattering away. I mean, he had a look 573 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 12: of concern on his face. But all of a sudden, 574 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 12: she just she played so well, and I mean that 575 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 12: is some mental strength to know in the final. Obviously 576 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 12: she went through it before winning Wimbledon, but still to 577 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 12: come through, I think she deserved it because she played 578 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 12: so great at the end. There was a moment that 579 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 12: you know, I was in the doing the match in 580 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 12: the bunker and Sabalanca turn and I think at three 581 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 12: five and she was serving, and she just had this 582 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 12: look on her face where to me it seemed like 583 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 12: she knew she was in trouble. I'm not sure if 584 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 12: she could turn it around that resignation. I don't know 585 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 12: what it was about the look on her face, but 586 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 12: it almost like she just kind of relaxed and almost 587 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 12: succumbed a little to the fact that, like, while this 588 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 12: could slip away from me. 589 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 9: It's interesting, what did you make if the composure of 590 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 9: I mean, the two very different people out on the 591 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 9: tennis court, aren't they. 592 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 11: This is why this matchup is so good. I think 593 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 11: sometimes it can be a little bit lazy when people go, oh, 594 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 11: they both play the same, it's hard to call. I 595 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 11: think they're actually quite different, particularly how they are on 596 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 11: the court. With their mentality. Sablink is so expressive, so extroverted. 597 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 11: You know exactly what she's thinking. It's the opposite with remarking, 598 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 11: and she's hard to read. 599 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 10: Incredibly there when she won me. 600 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 11: Even when she won the match, which is a signature now, 601 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 11: her non celebration it's not her very understated celebrations and 602 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 11: she went a little fist pump in that seat and 603 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 11: you're like, you've just won the biggest tournament. But I 604 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 11: love that fire and nice kind of the personalities about them. 605 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 11: But they do play a little bit differently. Rebeke and 606 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 11: his power is different. It shoots through the court more, 607 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 11: it's flatter, it's cleaner. Saballenka's got a lot more heaviness 608 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 11: and spin and she can create angles in a way. 609 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 11: So it is it is really interesting like that, what 610 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 11: did I make a rebeken as composure fantastic? But her 611 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 11: composure is always great. I actually had a real I 612 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 11: had real trouble working out was it Sabolenka that dropped 613 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 11: or was it Rebikener that became good? And when Rebeikener 614 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 11: came off her level and went down, was it because 615 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 11: Sabolenka had lifted and rested control or had Rebikener lost 616 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 11: a bit of sting on her shots? They were so 617 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 11: even in this match on every SAT, I think they 618 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 11: won the same number of points. Their first serve PERCENTAGEES 619 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 11: was similar, their groundstroke speeds were similar. Winners to errors 620 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 11: ratio was similar. More winners than errors, which spoke to 621 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 11: the high quality of it. But it was just if 622 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 11: one came off their level by like one or two percent, 623 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 11: then the other one had that little opening, like to 624 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 11: climb that little bit further forward or get that first 625 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 11: strike in. So it was really yeah, I was I 626 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 11: kind of left on watching Sabalinka's up three love in 627 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 11: the final set, lost six of the last seven games, 628 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 11: and I'm like, did she lose it or did Rebeiken 629 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 11: win it? I think Rebiken had definitely lifted, but then 630 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 11: I think that made Sabalanca a little tight and being like, 631 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 11: oh my god, I'm losing my lead. And then maybe 632 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 11: she got a bit she pulled the trigger a little early, 633 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 11: or she kind of wasn't as calm. But yeah, it's 634 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 11: so funny how those two things compete with each other. 635 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 11: It's not just one or the other. It's like a combination. 636 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 12: Do you feel like because it almost felt like it 637 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 12: was similar to the beginning where Sablegna gets up three 638 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 12: love and then there's no chance you want to relax 639 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 12: for a second, especially because you know the quality that 640 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 12: Rebuccner can bring. But it almost seemed like at three loves, 641 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 12: Sablenka was like, okay, I just you know, playing the 642 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 12: same way, playing the same way, almost not expecting rebuccn 643 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 12: it out of nowhere all of a sudden, just getting 644 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 12: a lot more pace, more depth, and so I in 645 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 12: my opinion, I do feel like she lifted. And again 646 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 12: it was like Sabolenka was like, I mean, where did 647 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 12: almost kind of where did this come from? Expecting it 648 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 12: even though it shouldn't surprise you. Yeah, it was interesting. 649 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 9: I mean, Elena rebarka that she's going to rise to 650 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 9: number three in the world on Monday, so this is 651 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 9: a second Grand Slam title. 652 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 10: Like what next for her? 653 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 9: Because she was asked in the press conference post match, 654 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 9: you know if number one was on her radar next? 655 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 9: She was very coy about it. But but what's next? 656 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 9: You like, where do you see her going? Like more slams? 657 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 10: Can she push for that number one spot? Yeah? 658 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 12: Absolutely, I think she could be number one. I think 659 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 12: she could have multiple more slams. Definitely. I always felt that, 660 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 12: even after was she won Wimbledon, I felt like she 661 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 12: should have multiple slams by now. I think she's that good, 662 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 12: but I don't. I don't know rate this second. She's 663 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 12: probably not thinking about that. Right this moment, And I 664 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 12: think what her biggest goal is is to be able 665 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 12: to play a full season because you know, compared to 666 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 12: last year, she had a great season last year, but 667 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 12: before then it was very up and down with injuries illnesses. Yeah, 668 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 12: so I think that is a big goal for her 669 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 12: to just be able to have concei percent consecutive years 670 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 12: where she doesn't have to worry about that, where she's 671 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 12: healthy and not worried physically about anything. So I think 672 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 12: that's one of her number one goals. 673 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 9: Well, speaking of worrying, and you mentioned wimburedon as well. 674 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 9: She was asked about the difference in winning this Slam 675 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 9: compared to Wimbledon back in twenty twenty two. 676 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 10: Let's take I listened to Rebaccna. 677 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 8: I always believe that I can come back to the 678 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 8: level I was, and of course we all have ups 679 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 8: and downs, and like I think everyone I thought or 680 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 8: maybe I will never be again in the final or 681 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 8: even get a trophy. But it's all about the work, 682 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 8: and I think we've been putting a lot of work 683 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 8: in with the team, and they were also very supportive 684 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 8: in the moments when I was maybe not that positive. 685 00:30:54,440 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 8: They would be helping out on this side. Of course, 686 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 8: when you're getting after some wins, big wins against top 687 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 8: players and you start to believe more, you get more confident, 688 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 8: it is different feelings, I would say, because Wimbledon was 689 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 8: my first experience getting that far in the tournament and 690 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 8: I went straight away, and I remember I was not 691 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 8: sleeping well, saying it's even quarters final. I don't even 692 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 8: talk like how many emotions and how many thoughts was 693 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 8: going through my head? And yeah, it was really stressful, 694 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 8: I would say Wimbledon, and I think with the experience, 695 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 8: with the years on tour, I learned a lot. And 696 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 8: later on, of course you have same emotions you want 697 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 8: to win, but it's kind of different. And I was 698 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 8: managing to sleep well here and that's a good thing. 699 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 8: And what's the worst thing can happen, which my coach 700 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 8: always tells me, you lose, but then you get another 701 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 8: opportunity to play next week, and that we have so 702 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 8: many times. Yet I thought it was kind of probably 703 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 8: focused and not as stressed. 704 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 9: Well, I'm glad she's going to be able to enjoy 705 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 9: this one a little bit more. She talked about having 706 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 9: insomnia before too, and especially during that Wimbledon title run 707 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 9: in twenty twenty two. 708 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 10: Just not been able to sleep, which is just horrible, 709 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 10: horrible feeling and feeling so stressed and anxious. 710 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 9: So I think she's kind of got that underapped, which 711 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 9: is crazy because you look at her and you can't 712 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 9: tell under the surface. 713 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,719 Speaker 11: Can You never would have known that that's how she 714 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,239 Speaker 11: was feeling in Wimbledon, And I just remember how she 715 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 11: composed she looked at Wimbledon. I remember she said even 716 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 11: in the quarter of Semis, she played il tim Lanovitch 717 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 11: in the quarters that women and she served it out great, 718 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 11: look like she'd been there, done that before. Had no 719 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 11: idea that that was all going on off the court. 720 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 11: She mentioned the insomnia, was it at the French Open 721 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 11: last year or something? There was something saying, yeah, like 722 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 11: there that has been an ongoing issue for her. But 723 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 11: I'm really glad she sorted that out and then that 724 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 11: actually takes you. Know how when you don't sleep well, 725 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 11: you worry about not sleeping well and feel bad. So 726 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 11: if you can remove that as a source of stress 727 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 11: and you can just everything kind of flows on from 728 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 11: there and then you can sleep's not the issue when 729 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 11: you're feeling more energetic, so your practices are better, and yeah, 730 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 11: I just think she just looked clearly it was a 731 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 11: much better off the court kind of health situation for 732 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 11: her this year. 733 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 9: So while you couldn't tell what was going on under 734 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 9: the surface with rebarkaner there with Sabalanca as soon as 735 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 9: the match finished, towel over the head, trying. 736 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 10: To hide probably what her face was saying. 737 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 9: But I loved the press conference too that she was like, 738 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 9: my team is trying to avoid me right now. 739 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 10: They don't want to be anywhere near me. And she 740 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 10: was even. 741 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 9: Asked, I think, you know when will you review the 742 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 9: match in a couple of days or a week and 743 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 9: she told someone to politely f off, which is pretty 744 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 9: funny in the press conference as a because they were like, oh, 745 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 9: you know, would you do it tomorrow? 746 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 10: She was like, definitely not. 747 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 9: But you know, from Sabalanca's point of view, Jill, now 748 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 9: that's too lost Australia and Open finals in a row. 749 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 9: We know she was just really hungry to get back 750 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 9: here BC. The disappointment would be real for her. 751 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,959 Speaker 12: Yes, yes, of course, but I think she also has 752 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 12: a pretty good perspective. I means, as emotional as she 753 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 12: can get, there's just like you said, different personalities, different characters. 754 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 12: She just handles it differently after a loss. But it 755 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 12: is four finals in a row, winning two of them. 756 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 12: I mean, that's pretty impressive, and I think she understands 757 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 12: that to some degree. 758 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 10: Obviously you want to lift the trophy. 759 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 12: But you know, when she reflects on things, even though 760 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 12: sometimes she may get emotional and regret it later, she 761 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 12: actually has a pretty good perspective after that and understands 762 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 12: that it was a great, a great couple of weeks 763 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 12: and she had. She's the one that's been the most 764 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 12: consistent on the tour obviously over the last couple of years. 765 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 12: So obviously she wants more Grand Slam titles and everyone 766 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 12: in the world, that's what you peak for, is trying 767 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 12: to get more of those those trophies. But I think 768 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 12: we all like seeing her character and emotions come through, 769 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 12: absolutely because he's surreal. Well she's bringing true to herself. Yeah, 770 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 12: but I do think she has a pretty good perspective overall. 771 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: Thank you to Nat Edwards in the Evening Serve for 772 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: their work throughout the tournament. All right, our predictions for 773 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. Petemccado is still with us on from 774 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: a Radio Lexi as well, do you have a prediction 775 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty seven? 776 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: I think it's an extension of our previous conversation, but 777 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: I'm just reading completely all the way into what Novaksa 778 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 2: speech was at the end. 779 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: No more Novak at the Australia might be his last 780 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: year on tour. Will he get the twenty fifth Grand Slam? 781 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: And whe would he be most more likely to do it? 782 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: I think, honestly, I think he should be fine just 783 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: being really content with twenty four. 784 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 7: It's a great round number. Where would I'm not sure. 785 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 7: I don't answer. 786 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: Probably here what you're saying, but probably one more time here. 787 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: Mine will be five sets for women from quarterfinals onward. 788 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: Craig Tyler has forecast this in an interview, but the 789 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: other Slams would have to fall into line. 790 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 3: It couldn't just be the AO. 791 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 2: And it has an asterix against when the five sets 792 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 2: would come in. 793 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, he said from the quarterfinals onward, okay, which 794 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: would be his idea, But I'm not sure if anyone 795 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: will get on board for that. 796 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 3: Not yet anyway. 797 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 4: I think if you're going to do that, rule changes, 798 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 4: but probably more likely to see let's disappear before we 799 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 4: see the five sets for women from quarterfinals. 800 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: Which happens in the juniors. We found out, so absolutely. 801 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 3: They're playing with it. 802 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 4: So that's that's your markup because these kids are going 803 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 4: to come through and they're obviously the next generation, so 804 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 4: they're just used to it, so it'd be a massive 805 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 4: change for everyone, but they're used to playing it anyway. 806 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 3: Good change do you think? 807 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't mind it. I'm generally pro reform. It 808 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 4: happens so few times in the match we'll go well, 809 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 4: so a few times it's just allowed to happen, but 810 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 4: extra drama for the crowd, and people get used to it, 811 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 4: and players get used to it. We all adjust, we 812 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 4: all adapt. I think that would probably be the closest thing. 813 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: Ye, any predictions from you for twenty twenty seven. I 814 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 1: think I think the site's going to get bigger. Yeah, 815 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: they've gone up, they've gone. 816 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 4: Out, they've got everywhere else we've got foreshadowing of that 817 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 4: where how we can fit more spectators in obviously not 818 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 4: as many match cords and watching the tennis, but more 819 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 4: activations and things like that can add another one. Yeah, 820 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 4: of course I'm going to go Elanda back in her 821 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 4: back to back. She's magnificent years. She's followed up from 822 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 4: the Tour finals last year as keeping that going. 823 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 3: As long as she stays healthy, it's going to be. 824 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 4: Interesting to see of the contending pack who might come 825 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 4: up to challenge. Obviously this Avalenka will be there, but 826 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 4: you've got so many others. 827 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 3: Cocoa Golf, I could go on forever. I'm not going 828 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 3: to because I'm very. 829 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 4: Tired, but I think that would be a prediction for 830 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 4: me that Elanda back and they will come to Melbourne Park. 831 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 3: Dentially is out of top two in the. 832 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: World, and then have a really great tournament here. Well, 833 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: she's been knocking off the top ten, hasn't she. 834 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 835 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 7: Yeah. 836 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 2: And Candy Reid, who we had on the other day, 837 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 2: she said that she's got the main a ridiculously good 838 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 2: a game. So if she's got a whole year to 839 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 2: figure out her B and C, then you know it's 840 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: definitely high chance. 841 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely, thank you for joining us, Pete to wrap up 842 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: the tournament. 843 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 3: I'm now going to get some sleep. Yeah, very good 844 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 3: rest the vocal. 845 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 7: I guess Jon Tech button when we need. 846 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: It, Oh, hold on, I'll find it. I know it's 847 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: his sumwhere it's a yellow button here it is I 848 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: think this is it. 849 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 7: I don't know, Honestly, it's too late for me to think. Also, 850 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 7: I'm hungry. 851 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: That's a great way to sign off on the AO 852 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six, Lexi. I've love sharing the studio 853 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: with you It's arena for the past couple of weeks. 854 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: What a tournament we had it got going late. But 855 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: to congratulations to Carlos el Karez and Elena Rebarkaner for 856 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 1: their wins here at the AO in twenty twenty six, 857 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: and thank you for joining us on the AARRAP. 858 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 3: Hopefully we're back next year.