Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload the podcast last week that wy.
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to
Speaker 2: thank you for clicking and downloading on today's episode with
Speaker 2: the fabulous Alana MacLean, who Let's Be Real is basically
Speaker 2: our halftime show at the Super Bowl as we wait
Speaker 2: for more reunion episodes to drop. As you will know,
Speaker 2: Housewives reunions are the super Bowl of reality TV, and
Speaker 2: Alana MacLean is my personal Beyonce. We are diving into
Speaker 2: part one of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills season
Speaker 2: fourteen reunion. Now full disclosure, I've been battling a little
Speaker 2: flu this week and may or may not have been
Speaker 2: on some strong medication and genuinely thought this episode, Part
Speaker 2: one of the reunion was a rip roaring success. To me,
Speaker 2: nothing felt stale. It all was super engaging. But whether
Speaker 2: Alana agrees with me, well, you're just gonna have to
Speaker 2: listen to the podcast to find out. There's a lot
Speaker 2: to unpack. So we have poured ourselves another drink. I've
Speaker 2: grabbed a box of hotch and yes, I may be
Speaker 2: leaning a little too hard into the Super Bowl snack metaphor.
Speaker 2: We are going to cover everything from the Ladies reunion
Speaker 2: looks and the set design to Erica's wild comments about
Speaker 2: her dress being from a random designer. I'll be getting
Speaker 2: Alana's take on Garcel's downfall as we watch her go
Speaker 2: from holding that diamond to throwing that diamond back in
Speaker 2: Bravo's face in real time. We will break down PK's
Speaker 2: statement to reat surprising dominance at the reunion, and the
Speaker 2: slew of face offs dere versus Garcell, Garsell versus Kyle,
Speaker 2: Erica versus Garcel, and sudden coosing up to Kyle while
Speaker 2: leaving Garcell hanging. By the end of this week's episode,
Speaker 2: you probably had whiplash from the downfall of Twitter's favorite housewife. Plus,
Speaker 2: we will preview next week's reunion episode and hand out
Speaker 2: our episode rankings. There's so much to discuss and even
Speaker 2: more insider tee to spill as Alana and I gower
Speaker 2: the internet to give you some exclusives. So sit back
Speaker 2: and relax and join us as we unpack the wild
Speaker 2: world of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season fourteen
Speaker 2: Reunion Episode number one. I've Got this.
Speaker 1: Ah the chips. How much did those chips cost?
Speaker 2: I think they were five dollars fifty and that's a
Speaker 2: lot of chips. That's from the good to rec Fish
Speaker 2: and Chip Place. Yes, oh I remember I got you
Speaker 2: the burger from there once. Yes, like that's the best
Speaker 2: burger I've ever had.
Speaker 1: I remember it vividly. I mean even though that was
Speaker 1: five years ago.
Speaker 2: Still good, best chip place and Ben Torpy something recently
Speaker 2: because I'm a vinegar person on my chips.
Speaker 3: If you just get I love vinegar on chips.
Speaker 2: He said, put a little bit of soy sauce with her.
Speaker 3: Are you going to sit there and make me jealous
Speaker 3: while you eat all the chips?
Speaker 2: No, because I hate the sound of people eating, which
Speaker 2: means that that's not going to happen. And the best
Speaker 2: thing about these chips is, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: can see this, but you'll have to be the voice
Speaker 2: of people with this ends up in the podcast. But
Speaker 2: see how they're a little bit yellow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're real fish and Chip shop chips.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if they've got that yellow texture on them,
Speaker 2: this is where I go all Manu, he's a chef,
Speaker 2: isn't he Manu?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, you can just get those chips like that. They
Speaker 2: can go cold. You just put them in the air
Speaker 2: fry for like two minutes and it's just like they've
Speaker 2: just been made again. As long as they've got that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean, what a life hack right there.
Speaker 2: As you get out the wine that has the tiniest
Speaker 2: little bit of wine left dinner, well.
Speaker 1: I poured a small amount this is red today because
Speaker 1: it's very rainy over here, and I've got an Italian
Speaker 1: restaurant dinner tonight, so it'll be all about the red
Speaker 1: wine and the carps.
Speaker 2: Just bust out the underbelly Davids.
Speaker 1: Now, I know, I definitely am going to watch that
Speaker 1: over the weekend, like I give it.
Speaker 3: To you straight.
Speaker 2: Tiny Mockbell's down at Lgan Street having dinner tonight.
Speaker 1: Well, here's we're an ankle bracelet. So does that allow
Speaker 1: him to go to the Italian restaurant?
Speaker 2: Liza Lohan was like out at the clubs with her.
Speaker 2: She made that an accessory. People were wearing pretend a
Speaker 2: ankle bracelets after Lindsay Lohan did that in Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: Tony Mockbell, everyone's going to be worried. Ankle bracelet.
Speaker 3: I think you should just seed a few chips to.
Speaker 1: Kind of you know, like keep that craving right on
Speaker 1: the head, otherwise you're going to be stopping every two
Speaker 1: seconds to have another one.
Speaker 2: I've literally pushed them away and I'm having a can
Speaker 2: of gym bank. Don't judge me.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what is that a double black?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh my god. You'll be on your ear by the
Speaker 3: end of the episode.
Speaker 2: I get to have a night to myself, So I
Speaker 2: literally am going to be having those hot chips and
Speaker 2: the rest of those gym beams and sitting on the
Speaker 2: belcony in talking to myself basically youtubing myself on the internet. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have been at your house and that's
Speaker 1: what's happened. Do not answer any calls tonight from Benjamin Norris.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this week's part one reunion, because we
Speaker 1: are there. It is our super Bowl, and I sat
Speaker 1: down and I was so excited, but not as excited
Speaker 1: as you.
Speaker 3: It appears you loved it.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give it my first five out of five,
Speaker 2: dropping that in there right now at tot of the podcast,
Speaker 2: because you know, reunions to me are this big tea,
Speaker 2: so it gets so excited they get dressed up. I
Speaker 2: put on a nice blouse. Not really, and they make
Speaker 2: them three parts. One season they made it four parts,
Speaker 2: and I was like let down because what they do
Speaker 2: is they like have a little segment where they tease
Speaker 2: us with something. They'll be like, Kyle, you know, does
Speaker 2: Morgan Wade call you at nighttime? Just anything really juicy,
Speaker 2: and then they'll switch to something like Erica Jane's hat
Speaker 2: when she went to chuck e cheese. How cute, and
Speaker 2: then go off on like a ten minute. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you're wasting my time. No one cares about that hat.
Speaker 2: Go back to the Morgan Wade phone calls late at night.
Speaker 2: That's what happens to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so do you feel like.
Speaker 1: Just overall before we break it down that there was
Speaker 1: was it all killer, no filler.
Speaker 3: Or did you feel like there was a bit too
Speaker 3: much filler in this There was.
Speaker 2: No filler, like not a Minogan site. It's seriously, there was.
Speaker 2: It was just hot the whole way through.
Speaker 1: Because I'm talking to girlfriends and they're like, oh, it's dull.
Speaker 3: Oh this season wasn't letdown.
Speaker 1: Oh it was boring, And I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: feel like I was somewhere in the middle where I
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't find it like life changing. However,
Speaker 1: I feel like for a part one it was a good, substantial,
Speaker 1: chunky you know. It had all the ingredients there, just
Speaker 1: didn't quite rise to a level three, you know, in
Speaker 1: terms of like part three of the reunion. But I
Speaker 1: feel like they have to they have to go up.
Speaker 1: They can't go down. They can't give away all the
Speaker 1: tea in the first one.
Speaker 2: It's definitely going to go somewhere. But I'm starting to
Speaker 2: worry because, as you know, I had a cold this week,
Speaker 2: and then I might have been high on medication, and
Speaker 2: then I thought this episode was better than it really was.
Speaker 2: Like I mean like it was interactive. I was yelling
Speaker 2: at the screen a lot, like they were my friends.
Speaker 2: So maybe I was high on the meds.
Speaker 1: Oh hallucinating. Look, I mean there was decent ingredients there.
Speaker 1: I think for me, well, where do you want to start?
Speaker 1: You want to start at the beginning.
Speaker 2: I want to start with Garcel saying that she's going
Speaker 2: to be in the group photo, foreshadowing the fact that
Speaker 2: she is not going to be in the cast photo,
Speaker 2: which if anyone is following the Internet, they will know.
Speaker 5: I hope that we can talk things through, work them out,
Speaker 5: and at the end of the day we actually get
Speaker 5: a cast photo this reunion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be We did not the last two years.
Speaker 3: I don't think I apologize.
Speaker 2: It just seemed so bizarre, and they've left it in
Speaker 2: the edit, which means that she's being stitched up. Makes
Speaker 2: me think about this. Is there any truth or do
Speaker 2: you think some fake journalist has come up with this?
Speaker 2: Do you reckon Garcel had a fight with Bravo before
Speaker 2: turning up, because I say, I called bullshit on that,
Speaker 2: because she does not turn up looking like she's salty.
Speaker 2: You sent me a text message which is very real.
Speaker 2: We watched Garcell come to realization in real time. You
Speaker 2: watch the penny drop. I remember you an idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I felt. I felt she went in
Speaker 1: and everything was fine. She wanted to do the cast photo.
Speaker 1: They didn't do that last year because Sutton went off
Speaker 1: and her fake ambulance with her fake fainting or whatever
Speaker 1: the hell happened there when Kathy was about to come
Speaker 1: for her typical ston and so she wanted the cast photo.
Speaker 1: But I think because we already know that she's leaving
Speaker 1: the show, and then we saw and watch what happens live.
Speaker 1: Erica said she left. She didn't do the cast photo
Speaker 1: with us, so we already knew that. But watching it
Speaker 1: out now, you were watching it with a different lens,
Speaker 1: and you can see Garcel as that episode progresses, and
Speaker 1: it's the people versus Garcel Bouvet, and she starts tapping
Speaker 1: out in real time one hundred.
Speaker 2: Percent, and she kind of lost a lot of these
Speaker 2: battles because you know, this is going to be a
Speaker 2: hard point for those three people or the four people
Speaker 2: on Twitter that support those girls. But it's really interesting.
Speaker 2: They have a huge fan base. They being sudden and gasel,
Speaker 2: They can do no wrong. They literally could turn up
Speaker 2: a Kyle's house Robert and go home and everyone would say,
Speaker 2: good on you. Kyle Richards has been having that coming
Speaker 2: for here. But when we were talking about a few
Speaker 2: of the touch points with Garsel, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: you are trying to be the voice of the people,
Speaker 2: and you were trying to voice all of these things
Speaker 2: that have probably been said on Twitter, but now everyone's
Speaker 2: calling you out for it and calling you an asshole,
Speaker 2: and you don't really have the receipts don't go for
Speaker 2: a friend or a faux friend on TV about their
Speaker 2: house being robbed if you don't have the receipts. She
Speaker 2: had no receipts. She just kept saying, well, it's kind
Speaker 2: of a feeling I had.
Speaker 3: This was my feeling.
Speaker 5: This is the last time I'm going to talk about it.
Speaker 5: I felt like.
Speaker 6: You, Luna, because you've not stopped talking about it since
Speaker 6: it happened.
Speaker 5: Gara stopped talking about it.
Speaker 2: I talked about it. You feel it was a setup?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: You can't say things like that. It's called slander. It's
Speaker 1: called defamation. Like she I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Like even if the other people felt that, and Andy
Speaker 1: kind of chimed in where he was a bit like, oh,
Speaker 1: I think it was like when they left.
Speaker 3: The cell phone. He was sort of better.
Speaker 1: Like you can't sit there and say that's my feeling
Speaker 1: over and over and over again.
Speaker 3: And not expect that someone's gonna come back at you.
Speaker 3: And to be honest, I thought Durit.
Speaker 1: Landed that round because she had her points, she had
Speaker 1: her defense lined up. She executed it all perfectly. I
Speaker 1: thought she was very eloquent in what she was saying.
Speaker 6: There is no evidence or a fact or any reason whatsoever
Speaker 6: that I'm rong. Are you to draw that conclusion I'm wrong?
Speaker 6: Yet you can see it so casually, not considering once
Speaker 6: how that might make me, my husband, our family feel
Speaker 6: whatsoever about something as traumatic as that's a garcel.
Speaker 2: If you've lost a fight to Deret in a reunion,
Speaker 2: considering we've seen her in seven reunions and she's never
Speaker 2: won a fight. She's always been like, she's pushing the
Speaker 2: point for half an hour, we never get a point,
Speaker 2: and then everyone takes it out. It was amazing because
Speaker 2: she was.
Speaker 3: Like, and he would put me through that truck.
Speaker 5: Was I the only one that felt that way?
Speaker 2: You tell me who elsed?
Speaker 6: You're four other people from Twitter?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 3: That was amazing. That was It really was amazing.
Speaker 1: She It was Dereat season, and I think part one
Speaker 1: was Dereat's best on ground as well.
Speaker 2: What about the seating arrangement that's always heavily discussed. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, Robbie would be talking about the footy, like
Speaker 2: the way we talk about who sits where, and you've
Speaker 2: got Deret for the very first time sitting right next
Speaker 2: to Andy Cohen and I don't know whether it was
Speaker 2: the Meds. Again, sorry for the reference. I should probably start,
Speaker 2: you know, advertising The Big Farmer. But I was really
Speaker 2: surprised at how close Kyle richardson Dereit really were with
Speaker 2: Andy Cohen. Did it look closer to you? Like they
Speaker 2: were literally at arm's length? Like, do they make the
Speaker 2: couches a little bit, you know, closer?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I noticed that they did look they did look like
Speaker 1: the whole set looked smaller and more intimate. I was like,
Speaker 1: is there less people that need to fit on the couches?
Speaker 1: I don't know, was it tighter sort of setting?
Speaker 2: You right? I hated the set. I hated everyone's clothes.
Speaker 2: Everyone going on about this season and having a really
Speaker 2: good season finale. People had been teasing the clothing on
Speaker 2: Watch What Happens Live. There was at least four reference
Speaker 2: points to Derete finally coming to a reunion wearing something great,
Speaker 2: you know. Sutton even said this is her best look
Speaker 2: of a reunion, you know, which is what she doesn't
Speaker 2: even like to eat. However, I just thought they all
Speaker 2: looked kind of like Walt Disney had thrown up, because
Speaker 2: the Solution set sort of made all of their clothes
Speaker 2: look a little washed out or something. I don't know,
Speaker 2: what did you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I sort of.
Speaker 1: I liked the theme with the white gold, metallic kind
Speaker 1: of vibe, and they always do like a cohesive meat
Speaker 1: mood board of looks when it comes to the reunion.
Speaker 3: But I don't think it.
Speaker 1: Matched the set with like the bright blue yellowy rug, which,
Speaker 1: to be honest, is a west Elm rug. We had
Speaker 1: that rug for a few years in Melbourne. It's like
Speaker 1: a four hundred dollar rug. It's not expensive. It didn't
Speaker 1: it didn't match. I don't think it was complimentary of
Speaker 1: their looks.
Speaker 3: But people too.
Speaker 1: What people are going crazy about online is when they
Speaker 1: walked in and Andie Cohen's says to Erica, Oh I
Speaker 1: love that dress.
Speaker 3: Who designed it? And she goes off some random designer.
Speaker 2: I mean, beautiful you.
Speaker 3: I don't know, some random designer I had made.
Speaker 1: Everyone is like that. Name of the designer is Valdrin Sahiti,
Speaker 1: who is literally dressed Jennifer Lopez, Beyonce, Nicki Minaje, you
Speaker 1: name it. They've dressed them two point three million followers
Speaker 1: on Instagram.
Speaker 3: Some random designer. People like, how disrespectful?
Speaker 2: No, because it actually makes sense now that we know
Speaker 2: that Erica Jane has been slapped with this lawsuit, which
Speaker 2: a majority of people following the Tom Girardi case have
Speaker 2: been saying will happen when Tom Girardi is tried and
Speaker 2: tested and he gets proven guilty, they will then come
Speaker 2: for Erica Jane. She has been out lamenting her life
Speaker 2: and saying to everyone how amazing she's turned things around.
Speaker 2: I'm being counting my scruples. She's not mentioning a designer
Speaker 2: because that much money, because she wants to make sure
Speaker 2: that people still think she looks poor.
Speaker 3: Yes, well that is a valid point. That does track.
Speaker 2: Do not go on a show and be like Valentina whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not great with designers. I think I
Speaker 2: just an MP drag race person. But anyway, you don't
Speaker 2: drop a Gucci name or a big name if you're
Speaker 2: crying poor, especially when you've spent twenty four million dollars
Speaker 2: of what are they.
Speaker 3: Called orphans and widows and widows.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's the only rationale.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, no, that does track. It's interesting. I mean
Speaker 1: I quite liked the looks. It's better than some of
Speaker 1: them that have been in previous years that have left
Speaker 1: a lot to be desired.
Speaker 3: I think she tried to make it fashion. It didn't
Speaker 3: quite go there. Ironically enough, I would.
Speaker 1: Say Erica's random designer was probably my favorite look of
Speaker 1: the ladies.
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't like what Garcel was wearing because Garsell, like,
Speaker 2: she's got a great curvy body. Yeah, full of some
Speaker 2: amazing looks over the years. But when she was dripping
Speaker 2: in those diamonds and she scurried off after the episode,
Speaker 2: you know, to get back to a trailer, it did
Speaker 2: not well. Just I was like, lady, you can do
Speaker 2: so much better than this.
Speaker 3: I know, And that's literally her exit.
Speaker 1: Look, little did we know at the time, when you know,
Speaker 1: but I mean, look, let's get back to the Garseel thing,
Speaker 1: because there's plenty to get through there.
Speaker 3: So we had the derete fight about the robbery.
Speaker 1: Then we had Erica saying I wish you were more
Speaker 1: interesting now, as much of an iconic line as that
Speaker 1: will be in the vernacular of housewives, I wish you
Speaker 1: were more interesting. It will go down, you know, in
Speaker 1: all those kind of catchphrases that we've had.
Speaker 3: What more do you want to now? For?
Speaker 5: What do you want?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 5: There's nothing that I'm not showing honestly, do you know something?
Speaker 2: No, I wish you were more interesting. I guess, oh damn, what.
Speaker 5: Well, that's a shitty thing to say.
Speaker 1: Eric And I like Erykas, she's my girl. But in
Speaker 1: that moment, I was like, Oh, I don't think this
Speaker 1: is warranted. I think she went too far. And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why, because when she said we want the
Speaker 1: juicy schoop, we want to know who your dating, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think you can really say
Speaker 1: that when we don't know who you're shagging.
Speaker 3: Well, we know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I have to go through the amount of people that
Speaker 2: have been gang banging on her roster, like is.
Speaker 3: In then why is she saying that?
Speaker 1: Of all the examples, I thought, Oh, you've just walked
Speaker 1: yourself into a hypocrisy.
Speaker 3: Pie.
Speaker 2: I just was like, Oh, she said it with confidence.
Speaker 2: She said it like she knew what she was doing.
Speaker 2: She did not show any remorse to it as well.
Speaker 2: And everyone's reaction was like, hey, that is too far,
Speaker 2: not okay, and she just wore it and she just
Speaker 2: kept going like Erica Jane does. And she obviously has
Speaker 2: a beef with Garsel that has been a brewing because
Speaker 2: Erica Jane doesn't go for people's throats like that without
Speaker 2: actually having all of the facts. She isn't.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because they were forming a better friendship,
Speaker 1: and Garcel made reference to it at the end of
Speaker 1: this sort of season while they're on vacation. She was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're sort of many a friendship. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: She would not have seen that coming from America, and
Speaker 1: this was the core of the Garceel fade out that
Speaker 1: we started to see. She did not realize all these
Speaker 1: people were going to come for her, and she even
Speaker 1: when she walked down and she said, oh, I thought
Speaker 1: Ston was going to be in the hot seat, not me.
Speaker 3: She did not see this coming.
Speaker 4: I thought SU's going to be in.
Speaker 3: The hot seat.
Speaker 5: I didn't realize that was going to be in the
Speaker 5: hot seat. Jesus Grace. I can't have an opinion. I
Speaker 5: can't see how I feel. I just have to go along,
Speaker 5: just to go along. Everybody can go, so I don't care.
Speaker 2: Another example of that storyline that was in the press
Speaker 2: saying that she had a fight with Bravo or with
Speaker 2: Andy or something and that she knew this was coming.
Speaker 2: She did not know what was coming. Anyone that watches
Speaker 2: this show or have even listened to anything that we've
Speaker 2: said on this podcast this season, I think we're all
Speaker 2: a little bit shocked. I mean, when you sent me
Speaker 2: Garcel's exit video, I was a gasp. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you had just had a very good season. In my mind,
Speaker 2: I hadn't particularly liked Garcel up intil this season, and
Speaker 2: you and I we bonded over the fact that we
Speaker 2: liked her because she was in the best way possible
Speaker 2: reminding Kyle to say something about Morgan, which is a
Speaker 2: question that you and I both had, And if you're
Speaker 2: watching this show for fourteen years, I'm prett sure everyone
Speaker 2: has a question as to what the hell's going on
Speaker 2: with Kyle Richards in this relationship with Morgan Wade.
Speaker 3: Of course they do.
Speaker 1: And I think it's extremely dismissive of the audience who
Speaker 1: was invested all this time. You chose to bring her
Speaker 1: on the show last year, and now you're choosing not
Speaker 1: to say anything. You kicked Moe out, you caught off
Speaker 1: the break up, now you're upset he started coming back,
Speaker 1: and we are left with confusion.
Speaker 3: We are left not knowing.
Speaker 1: And I liked that Garcel was asking those questions, and
Speaker 1: I also like, towards the end of the season, who's
Speaker 1: standing up to Sutton and leaving her out to dry
Speaker 1: and exposing her you know, fanatical obsession with Kyle to Kyle,
Speaker 1: which then you know, we'll get into that as well.
Speaker 1: But I liked where she was going with it, and
Speaker 1: even I think it was her final piece to camera
Speaker 1: she said, you know, I'm really looking forward to developing
Speaker 1: some of these relationships with the other ladies, because it's
Speaker 1: all has just been me and Sutton that have been
Speaker 1: really tight. I don't think she had any intention of
Speaker 1: leaving at that point. Something has happened, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit before the reunion. I don't necessarily think
Speaker 1: it was a fight with Bravo, but something's put her
Speaker 1: a little bit on the back foot, and that this episode,
Speaker 1: this part of the reunion, has nailed the coffin and
Speaker 1: she has gone none of these women actually like me.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be staring down the barrel of a
Speaker 1: takedown season.
Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with it.
Speaker 1: These are all work relationships, they're not real friendships, and
Speaker 1: I'm tapping out all very best.
Speaker 2: But it was always going to come down to the
Speaker 2: fact that if Sutton didn't support her friend, if Sudden
Speaker 2: did not support her friend, she was going to run.
Speaker 2: And you know, Sudden and Garcela have had each other's
Speaker 2: backs like blood sisters.
Speaker 3: Think it's an alliance.
Speaker 1: I honestly question if she has left the show now,
Speaker 1: whether those two will ever be hanging out ever again,
Speaker 1: because all Sutton wants to do is hang out with
Speaker 1: rich people, and she is a social climber, and that
Speaker 1: is why her friendship with Athy has always been so important.
Speaker 1: That is why she's always been on the boards of
Speaker 1: the American Ballet and this and this, and that is
Speaker 1: why she's wanted to be in bed with Kyle metaphorically
Speaker 1: probably literally allegedly, But.
Speaker 3: It's because of the connection to Kathy.
Speaker 1: It's because of Kyle's connection to the producers and to
Speaker 1: Andy Cohen.
Speaker 3: Every friendship that Sutton has seems to have that motive.
Speaker 1: And I just don't feel like Garcel in the real
Speaker 1: world without the show will be enough for Sutton.
Speaker 3: That friendship will go in the fire.
Speaker 2: Well, who the hell is going to join this series
Speaker 2: that's going to be able to pick up the pieces
Speaker 2: and do something like what Garcel and Sudden have been
Speaker 2: doing because with no garcell, I think Sutton will play
Speaker 2: a much lighter season next year. I think that's a
Speaker 2: pretty easy guest to have. They're going to need to
Speaker 2: bring someone to ask the questions and bring stuff out
Speaker 2: of Kyle. You know you said last week you don't
Speaker 2: think it'll be Lisa Renner. I guarantee you it will
Speaker 2: be Lisa Renner. I could almost put money on it
Speaker 2: that they are going to fork out the cash to
Speaker 2: bring her back. I heard Heath McDonald talking about it
Speaker 2: and predicting it on the Juicy Scoops podcast, and she
Speaker 2: was like, picture this the heels walking down Sunset Boulevard,
Speaker 2: you know, and it pans back to the iconic Lisa
Speaker 2: Renna Bob and then she walks in where all the
Speaker 2: girls are having lunches and she says something like hey bitches,
Speaker 2: and then does We're gonna laugh. Everyone's going to be like,
Speaker 2: it's a Tamera Judge come back season for Lisa Renner.
Speaker 1: I still don't think it'll be Lisa Renner. But look,
Speaker 1: Denise Richards has gone public saying she would come back.
Speaker 1: We know there's been a lot of ground swell for
Speaker 1: Eileen Davidson to come back. She hasn't commented on that,
Speaker 1: but there's.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't want women that are going to come
Speaker 2: back that are not going to say something like you
Speaker 2: know you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Denise is thirsty at the moment, she'll come back.
Speaker 2: Now, wear a jacket up the right way.
Speaker 3: Like I'm just so that's her whole stick.
Speaker 2: I don't have faith in her. And every time she talks, like,
Speaker 2: even though I've been watching her own spin off show,
Speaker 2: I'm just like, are you high right now? Like she
Speaker 2: sounds really slorrowy, you know she's saying, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm worried for you, girl, Like I don't know if
Speaker 2: you should be on television with your kookie daughters and
Speaker 2: your weird pervert husband. Like we need to have that
Speaker 2: come onto the Housewives again, Like we don't need another
Speaker 2: series of everyone chasing after Denise. What Denise says, Bravo, Bravo, bravo. No, no, Well, look.
Speaker 1: I think if she was going to come back, she
Speaker 1: would she would have to deliver more than what she did.
Speaker 1: But look, I think there's room for a newbie. I
Speaker 1: think you know, they've said a lot of times, I
Speaker 1: think for five years they were trying to court Ida Field,
Speaker 1: who is Robbie Williams's wife. Obviously he's had a lot
Speaker 1: of press over there with the movie, so potentially there
Speaker 1: might be more interest in her if he pops up
Speaker 1: on the screen now that we have no other husbands.
Speaker 1: And I think, just in regards to the changing dynamics,
Speaker 1: Sutton will be on her own island.
Speaker 3: Who will she cling.
Speaker 1: To, because it's pretty obvious at this point that Garcell
Speaker 1: has pointed out to Kyle in no uncertain terms, Sutton's
Speaker 1: obsessed with you.
Speaker 3: She really wants to be friends with you. Kyle's turned
Speaker 3: around and said, well, how's that my problem?
Speaker 1: And that was when we saw that moment of Sutton going, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: Kyle is not standing up for me.
Speaker 3: I don't even think she likes me. And then she
Speaker 3: went crawling.
Speaker 1: Back to Garcel in that green room and was trying
Speaker 1: to cling to her because she said, it's going to
Speaker 1: get real bad for me.
Speaker 3: Aka, I hope you stick up for me.
Speaker 1: She did not stick up for Garcel once on that count,
Speaker 1: and Garca will leave her out to dry and then
Speaker 1: she will leave the show, as we know, so where
Speaker 1: it goes in terms of the dynamic. So Suton might
Speaker 1: be a lighter player, but it's because she'll be trying
Speaker 1: to find her next alliance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd got to go and drop to the bottom
Speaker 2: of the pack. I watch a Strain and Survivor. I
Speaker 2: know what happens. They're going to drop to the bottom
Speaker 2: of the pack when they lose their double. So the
Speaker 2: thing that was really interesting about this episode, and maybe
Speaker 2: it was the juiciest part, was the fact that Kyle
Speaker 2: Richards openly talked about the fact that she tried to
Speaker 2: use this by the way as a sign of good
Speaker 2: friendship and good nature, but it really undid something about
Speaker 2: Kyle Richards. She said that I went and approached you
Speaker 2: off camera and told you exactly what was happening with
Speaker 2: Morgan Wade.
Speaker 1: I also had converse sations with you and I never
Speaker 1: think it anything you don't.
Speaker 3: I explained to you, why why.
Speaker 5: Did you Why did you come to me off camera
Speaker 5: and talk to me.
Speaker 2: They basically pushed, well, Garcel tried to get it out
Speaker 2: of Sutton's mouth about it being a chess move, but
Speaker 2: that's exactly what that is, and it's exactly what Darid
Speaker 2: had the problem with last year. The text message before
Speaker 2: the reunion was classified as a chess move. And then
Speaker 2: here we are again.
Speaker 5: And what did you say when she walked away after
Speaker 5: she told us what she told us off camera?
Speaker 3: I think that Kyle wants to protect Morgan.
Speaker 2: That's some way. So you said that was a chess move.
Speaker 3: The thing is with both of you, the two of
Speaker 3: you together are mean girls. Hang on mean girls, like
Speaker 3: that's really shocking to hear that I have.
Speaker 2: Sudden if you've walked off camera and you've said to
Speaker 2: Garsel and Sudden, Hey, by the way, the reason why
Speaker 2: this isn't happening is because if XY and zaid you
Speaker 2: have the answers, you actually have had the answers all along.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't make any sense that you've been saying,
Speaker 2: guysving you everything. You know, there's nothing left to tell. Well,
Speaker 2: there must be, because you held your microphone to your
Speaker 2: chest and you went and told two people.
Speaker 1: So she went and told Garcel AND's something about Morgan
Speaker 1: off camera. So she made them feel like they were
Speaker 1: in the fold. They were in the sanctity of this
Speaker 1: private friendship. You're so close to me, so I'm giving
Speaker 1: you this information. So they wouldn't push her about it
Speaker 1: on camera, and then when Garcel started ramping up on
Speaker 1: the Morgan questions and you know that scene in Chuck
Speaker 1: E Cheese if you want to be a lesbian, and
Speaker 1: you know all of that, Kyle just wasn't expecting her
Speaker 1: to do that. So I think, Kyle, you know, we
Speaker 1: see she's clever.
Speaker 3: She's been on this show a long time.
Speaker 1: She knows how to work it out, and it definitely
Speaker 1: was a chess move. She just wasn't expecting to get
Speaker 1: exposed for it.
Speaker 2: I had a prediction at the start of this season
Speaker 2: that this might be Kyle Richard's last season. I think
Speaker 2: she was less likely to return for this season than
Speaker 2: she will be for the next season. I think that,
Speaker 2: you know, we've definitely locked her in and there's still
Speaker 2: a lot of answers that we want from her. If
Speaker 2: we are doing season fifteen with Kyle Richards though, and
Speaker 2: she is my favorite housewife, so I'm not being mean
Speaker 2: about her, She's going to need to give us a
Speaker 2: lot more about what is happening. Otherwise. Don't do reality TV,
Speaker 2: do Dancing with the Stars where there'll be a couple
Speaker 2: of packages with you with the children buying them Porsche's
Speaker 2: because their name is Porsche on those roundbreaking Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: like we don't need to know any of that. What's
Speaker 2: not well, yeah, well, I think we've said this before.
Speaker 2: I said, she's got to a point where she's cocky.
Speaker 2: She knows it's her.
Speaker 1: Show, she knows they're going to panda to whatever she wants,
Speaker 1: and she's used it to get a pass by saying
Speaker 1: for fourteen years, and she does it every time every renon.
Speaker 1: I've shown this, I've shown my sisters, I've shown my marriage,
Speaker 1: I've shown my kids since they were two.
Speaker 3: I've shown you all of this. Fine you have, but
Speaker 3: this year, in.
Speaker 1: Regards to the Morgan Mauricio complexities, you have not clarified
Speaker 1: anything and you've not shown us things. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot of chess moves that are happening there. So I
Speaker 1: don't think that she will leave. I think the pressure
Speaker 1: will be on her about this Morgan thing, depending on
Speaker 1: how that plays out.
Speaker 2: Well, we can't zip up this podcast recap without talking
Speaker 2: about the fact that Bosemar did get a reflection of
Speaker 2: her time joining the show. She got Andy co signing
Speaker 2: that it was a great first season and anyone that
Speaker 2: watched this show couldn't deny us that she was great.
Speaker 2: We got to see stuff from her personal life.
Speaker 7: Oh, it's been such a mixed bag, you know. Some
Speaker 7: people think that there's a bunch of red flags. Some
Speaker 7: people think it's great. Some people question the fact that
Speaker 7: at that time we hadn't said we loved each other yet.
Speaker 4: Have you said you love each other yet?
Speaker 2: I did think it was hilarious. And I wonder whether
Speaker 2: or not Bo's is listening to our podcast because she
Speaker 2: on the episode talked about how everyone is sort of
Speaker 2: a little bit funny about the relationship she has with
Speaker 2: her man, you know, and that's us. We kept saying
Speaker 2: that I don't even know his name. You know his name,
Speaker 2: what's his name, Gely? I call him flagman Regfrin.
Speaker 1: The flags are flag and I mean, look, I think
Speaker 1: she was a great addition. She is the best new
Speaker 1: housewife that we've had in a long time. There is
Speaker 1: no denying that. I think they've got the formula right
Speaker 1: with her, even though you know, red flags aside, But
Speaker 1: at least she's shown us some of that stuff, the
Speaker 1: pregnancy stuff. I mean, it's pretty ballsy to be letting
Speaker 1: people in on all of that, you know, when you're
Speaker 1: a hot minute in. I think she is very observant,
Speaker 1: very watchful, she has conviction when she speaks. I think
Speaker 1: all of those are the trademarks of a good housewife.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see her develop, you know, full
Speaker 1: of relationships with the other ladies as we move into
Speaker 1: next season. And I think, you know, she's got a
Speaker 1: great friendship with Deret, But I don't think she's seen
Speaker 1: dereites without faults.
Speaker 3: But we've seen her start to call them out. So
Speaker 3: does that escalate?
Speaker 1: Is there a falling out there or is that just
Speaker 1: someone that Deret actually is like, Okay, well I'm going
Speaker 1: to listen to you because you're delivering it in the
Speaker 1: right way.
Speaker 2: I think that I know who's going to be one
Speaker 2: of the new girls holding a diamond next season, and
Speaker 2: this is going to be I honestly think this could happen.
Speaker 2: We may get our first man on Real Housewives of
Speaker 2: Beverly Hill and it's Paikue. Like the mike dropped, I
Speaker 2: was like, what the actual fuck he said?
Speaker 4: I was invited to be part of the reunion but
Speaker 4: declined because I don't believe engaging with Dorrit in this
Speaker 4: forum would be constructive. Dourit has made several mischaracterizations about me,
Speaker 4: but the one I must address is the claim that
Speaker 4: I am a bad father.
Speaker 2: That statement is both.
Speaker 4: Heartbreaking and false. It is deeply hurtful to me, and
Speaker 4: more importantly, to our children, who, despite Dorrit's assertion, will
Speaker 4: inevitably see and hear all of this at a time
Speaker 4: not of our choosing.
Speaker 2: Those closest to us know the truth.
Speaker 4: Many have wanted to speak out, but I have asked
Speaker 4: them not to, because the truth should never need a champion.
Speaker 2: I refuse to stoke a fire.
Speaker 4: I did not ignite. The Dorit I married would never
Speaker 4: have allowed this, much less caused it. That woman embodied kindness, integrity,
Speaker 4: and grace. I can only hope this version of Dorrit
Speaker 4: finds her way back to the person she once was.
Speaker 2: And it was really interesting because my reaction at the
Speaker 2: start was, PK, that is gold, thank you for jumping in,
Speaker 2: and this is actually a really good way for you
Speaker 2: to Rebut everything I thought it was really classy, except
Speaker 2: for the fact that once I read Reddit, which is
Speaker 2: the hell mouth of any kind of negativity about a
Speaker 2: TV show. How about that man going away not seeing
Speaker 2: his family like he was making a show in the
Speaker 2: UK and did not come back once. His children were
Speaker 2: never flown over. He never invited Direte to come over
Speaker 2: with the kids to see Papa and see what he did.
Speaker 2: Then now this man sees them maybe on a Saturday night,
Speaker 2: like you are not out of the year. Maybe it
Speaker 2: was a bit savage for Direte to call you an
Speaker 2: alcoholic seven hundred times in one episode, but maybe you
Speaker 2: were an alcoholic. And also Andy Cohen, is PK drinking again?
Speaker 4: And I was like, yes, how long has he been sober?
Speaker 6: Now it's not a topic we discuss, as I've discovered
Speaker 6: very recent. Okay, So I couldn't answer that.
Speaker 4: So he's drinking a gun and you don't want to
Speaker 4: say that.
Speaker 6: I have no idea as exact words are. It's something
Speaker 6: I'm choosing not to discuss with you.
Speaker 3: I mean, she basically said, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I thought, oh, I just like or hate
Speaker 1: dreat You cannot sit there and say she isn't giving
Speaker 1: us everything. I think that him doing that statement, first
Speaker 1: of all, was so strategic. And I think when Erica
Speaker 1: said he will be ruthless at the business of divorce,
Speaker 1: and I thought that is just case in point, because
Speaker 1: how did he start it, he said something like, I'm
Speaker 1: choosing not to engage with Duret in this forum, but
Speaker 1: then wrote some huge statement which obviously was going to
Speaker 1: get published everywhere, which when that gets published, it's not
Speaker 1: like she's right there to reply to it. So I
Speaker 1: was like, that was very strategic. What he wrote was
Speaker 1: very strategic, and we can clearly see this is the
Speaker 1: start of a very very ugly divorce Weather. I do
Speaker 1: believe her when she said I do still love him.
Speaker 2: Are you still in love with him? Yeah? You are.
Speaker 6: He's my soul, he's my blood, is my heart. And
Speaker 6: I hate that because it makes it so much more difficult,
Speaker 6: but I also know I need peace.
Speaker 1: I think she has protected him for so long that
Speaker 1: she just isn't aware of how bad it actually got.
Speaker 1: You know, when you're sort of in something, you don't
Speaker 1: realize how bad it was going to get, and you're
Speaker 1: not sort of watching it with the right lens over it.
Speaker 1: And I still feel like she thinks it wasn't going to.
Speaker 3: Get that bad, but it is. You're already there. This
Speaker 3: is a train wreck. I mean it's a train wreck.
Speaker 1: That saved a job, she secured that diamond, but this
Speaker 1: marriage is over er.
Speaker 2: And I cannot wait for next season when she's in
Speaker 2: her little apartment with her little things and then having
Speaker 2: a young sexy boyfriend. Like I'm picturing someone completely delusional,
Speaker 2: Like who's that singer the American singer that everyone thinks
Speaker 2: he's gay but he's keeps saying he's not goad and
Speaker 2: he's like a really famous.
Speaker 3: Singer Harry Styles.
Speaker 2: No, but he's bisexual, but anything that's a different podcast.
Speaker 2: Who is the name of that guy?
Speaker 3: He's like really a true Austin Austin something.
Speaker 2: No, what's the name of the I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2: google this is Otherwise people are gonna.
Speaker 3: Cant U Siri who is pretending to be striking?
Speaker 2: Who is a really hot sexy American singer who looks
Speaker 2: gay but keeps saying he's not gay but everyone knows
Speaker 2: he's gay Hugh Jackman. And now it's asking if they
Speaker 2: are Arabic Chinese.
Speaker 3: Not prepared to racially profile.
Speaker 2: Sorry options, who would have thought Syria was racist? Anyway?
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to chat GPT and I'm going
Speaker 2: to say, who is a famous American singer that looks
Speaker 2: gay but that is not gay but everyone thinks he's gay,
Speaker 2: he's like young and sexy and he's got abs.
Speaker 3: Benson Boone, Benson Boone.
Speaker 2: No, it's not that person.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm on a game show and I'm
Speaker 3: not winning anything.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, Sean Mendez straight away.
Speaker 3: Thanks Chat Peach, Thank Siri.
Speaker 2: Oh it's Chat GPT for the premium brand for it.
Speaker 2: Because obviously I'm like everyone's mom. I'm like, who's that
Speaker 2: movie with Jakenhole and Nan Hathaway from? What did we do?
Speaker 1: Like, honestly, when you use have a question like that,
Speaker 1: you could spend a week trying to think of the
Speaker 1: answer before the internet, Like it was so crazy and
Speaker 1: that would.
Speaker 3: Just like get you.
Speaker 2: Sounds like you're thinking about Shawn Mendez. He's a young,
Speaker 2: attractive and American adjacent Canadian actually pop singer known for
Speaker 2: his good looks, his abs, his clean cut style. That's
Speaker 2: led to a lot of people speculating about his sexuality,
Speaker 2: even though he has repeatedly stated that he is straight.
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, Sewn Mendez with direct, Okay,
Speaker 2: she'll be with you.
Speaker 1: You just went on a derete tangent trying to get
Speaker 1: to that point. We just went around a long windedness
Speaker 1: was there, Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd just be like.
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that she when when they were
Speaker 1: asking Satin about the forensic accountants, and then she was like, well,
Speaker 1: whose name's on the mortgage?
Speaker 3: And even though she did.
Speaker 1: A great deflection, she was like, well, what does it
Speaker 1: matter who's name on the mortgage? That's like the answer
Speaker 1: of someone who doesn't know who names on the mortgage.
Speaker 3: Whose name is on the mortgage? Do you know that?
Speaker 6: Do you really think I'm going to sit here and
Speaker 6: answer any questions you're asking me. It's about this, I'm
Speaker 6: talking about you.
Speaker 3: I'm joking supporting women.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about you having compassion for women.
Speaker 3: It's not about on the mortgage. To know you said
Speaker 3: you're worried.
Speaker 1: I think she will get cleaned out and I don't
Speaker 1: think there was as much money there as what she
Speaker 1: was led to believe, which is a very similar situation
Speaker 1: to you know what Erica has gone through, and we will.
Speaker 1: We'll see the downsizing start. We're already seeing it. We've
Speaker 1: seen it in her outfits and stuff this year. She's
Speaker 1: not in all the head to do designer look. She's
Speaker 1: in like jeans and Obama jacket, like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, And you.
Speaker 2: Know what I think of the first thing that we
Speaker 2: realized when we met each other, I think the first
Speaker 2: thing apart from home. My name is Beni'm Malana. We
Speaker 2: straight away were like, do you watch the Real Housewives? Pik?
Speaker 2: How does he have all that money when he has
Speaker 2: one client? Boy?
Speaker 3: I know, I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist.
Speaker 1: I think it was Yeah, that statement, just to circle
Speaker 1: back on that was savage. And I think we're going
Speaker 1: to see more of this play out publicly for sure.
Speaker 2: Preview for part two, we've got Kathy and Jennifer joining.
Speaker 2: We get to see Kathy looking amazing. I'm sure she's
Speaker 2: going to come in with some piping hot tea, which
Speaker 2: will be accidentally said. I don't think she's had the
Speaker 2: publicity team put together her dialogue this year.
Speaker 1: No, she gave that publicist over to Deret because Duritte
Speaker 1: had all the lines for Christmas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you need a good publicist for this reunion.
Speaker 2: There you go, Jennifer Tilly. You know she's going to
Speaker 2: turn up and eat a biscuit, so like that's all
Speaker 2: we know.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's like those annoying people. There was
Speaker 1: a girl that I worked with.
Speaker 3: And look, she was a darling.
Speaker 1: But we'd have a half hour meeting staff meeting on
Speaker 1: a Tuesday, and she would choose to bring her yogurt
Speaker 1: into the meeting and I'm like, it's literally thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: You can't wait for your goddamn She wasn't pregnant or anything.
Speaker 1: She wasn't like, oh my god, I'm diabetic. I'm gonna faint,
Speaker 1: like I have to have something right now. And Jennifer
Speaker 1: Tilly with the snacks, girl, just wait until you know
Speaker 1: the break.
Speaker 2: Good lord, I bet you those snacks are expensive though
Speaker 2: Simpsons Simpsons money anyway, But I can't wait for part two. Okay,
Speaker 2: how many Alana mcleans are giving me? Give it to
Speaker 2: me three and a half. Okay, this one of five.
Speaker 2: You know you gave like a five to like two
Speaker 2: episodes back.
Speaker 1: That was way better. That was the sting takedown on
Speaker 1: the boat with the outfits.
Speaker 2: I'm going to have every episode from now on just
Speaker 2: behigh on meds. While I watched the episode.
Speaker 3: I know, well, I mean, if you're enjoying it, you
Speaker 3: do you boot?
Speaker 2: Okay, well, what are you going to do in the meantime?
Speaker 2: Are you going to scour the internet and look for
Speaker 2: any kind of previews on what's going to happen for
Speaker 2: part two, because I felt like the preview that we
Speaker 2: got for part two didn't really like it didn't give
Speaker 2: me enough. We'd already seen that footage in the overall
Speaker 2: preview of the reunions. Next week, the reunion continues.
Speaker 4: One of our most decorated friends.
Speaker 5: Hi Jun, I'm covered with metals of valor, Kathy Hilp,
Speaker 5: Hi everybody, Kathy, I'm going to chew that gun right now.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna stuck out it for a second.
Speaker 3: I've never been accused men one, well, there were allies
Speaker 3: to all. You don't exactly live like the Queen of Sheba.
Speaker 6: You live a main road.
Speaker 3: You went back to your room in a cold PC.
Speaker 6: Can you wrap your head around how stuck that is?
Speaker 1: They usually start to drop like the three minute kind
Speaker 1: of clips online. I think a couple of days out,
Speaker 1: so I don't think we'll see anything for a couple
Speaker 1: more days.
Speaker 3: But look, I'm a sucker for.
Speaker 1: Those I don't sort of wait and go oh no,
Speaker 1: I'll just wait and watch the episode.
Speaker 3: I watched all the previews that I can get my
Speaker 3: hands on, so we will be ready to go for
Speaker 3: part two, the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, Oh my god, then the thing for part three.
Speaker 2: We definitely should make our husbands come and join us
Speaker 2: with the reunion.
Speaker 3: We should do watch party, should do a watch party.
Speaker 2: Whereas all it would be is just big you and
Speaker 2: I being shushed.
Speaker 1: I'd be bigh well, what else is new?
Speaker 2: As Alim Bill says, shush seriously, don't ever understand, never
Speaker 2: understood Calista Flockhart where she was always mispronouncing very this
Speaker 2: is a different podcast.
Speaker 1: You've gone off on another test. Okay, you need to
Speaker 1: go lie down. All the very best, all the very
Speaker 1: lots of love.
Speaker 3: Bye bye.
Speaker 2: Did you even get to finish? Michaelster anyway? Goodbye?
Speaker 3: Oh that's good, that's fine.